If HSR has taught me anything, it’s that reruns aren’t worth it if they aren’t support By the time they rerun, they’re either already outdated or are 1/2 patches away from being sent to the trash bin i
I don't. Jade was my first limited, had just started, had no clue about anything, just saw hot step on me mommy and threw some pulls at her. Got her at 7 :D
I was looking into pulling PF units, so i can clear easier. The Herta seems perfect for that, but i don't want Jade at all... Hopefully, Herta and her puppet will be good enough for pf
Tactics matter more than Herta Vs. Jade. Technically Jade is better, but I've seen plenty of runs where Herta users clear game modes in fewer turns than with Jade. The truth is that no units currently synergize well with The Herta. Jade is good but their kits aren't really in sync.
i think people are sleeping on lingsha heavy… she not only has extremely reliable healing, but with sunday and fugue she can actually become a pretty good dps unit. sure, she doesnt really need sundays crit buffs, but the action advance for fuyuan and his battery help her attack so often. jade and lingsha have some super nice synergy as well! with sundays action advance, lingsha and fuyuan can get 10 stacks for jade each time they attack (in pf at least) which is absolutely insane. really looking forward to jades rerun so i can try this out (and i want the herta too, so that gives jade even more opportunity to be worth it)
@@NothingMeansNothingButNothing she was an easy skip to most people on her release LOL everyone thought she was just a galla replacement. she was even on the same tier as him on her release, so yeah i think she was slept on LMAO sure, people see her power now an entire patch after her release but she was still seen as an easy skip when she was on banner
Def you should add Sunday in here, because of his enhancements for the future meta. Just like huohuo, Sunday is Aglaea's BiS support right now, unless he gets major powercrept in future(which I don't see happening). Just as he provides buffs to Aglaea, he can provide buffs for future remembrance units.
do NOT pull for jade just for The Herta, Jade and The Herta function very similar, as they both want a high frequency attacking unit well, one of them needs erudition... however, The Herta does infact NOT provide enough stacks for Jade to create a good enough feedback loop. we also have another quantum unit coming up in castorice, who might be playable in all modes (see aglaea) If you like her, go for her, however if you were on the fence of pulling her just for The Herta, i'd advise against it. not to mention we have 3 other (albeit rumored) erudition units coming up, with a 4* one coming maybe in 3.1
@@Darck800 That isn't confirmed. I can't recall the source, but there was someone related to Hoyo's English department that said that Herta was getting a normal length banner. It's possible they had bad info though, we won't know until the 3.0 release trailer.
@ nah I do what I want thanks for nothing :) it’s nice that people try to convince people who have made up their minds to do otherwise as if that would actually work lol
@@alessandrobellamoli3409 bad advice you can't convince people who already made up their minds :-) but thanks anyways you had good intentions I appreciate it
@@alessandrobellamoli3409 also you don't know anything about me or my account you just assume I know nothing and want to pull for Blade just because ( I have enough characters to clear the end game I have plenty of e6s, I don't care for meta, most reruns will have outdated character but they are made for people who still want them if they missed out on and the meta will always change so me just wanting Blade 1 character e6s5 doesn't change much, in the long run, ok) don't assume everyone is in the same position or is like you I have money, research( leaks and guides) and plenty of resources.
I am gonna pull for herta and her lc but i am not gonna pull for jade, she is the best to use With the herta because that's the only thing we have (she works fine With the herta but is not that crazy or a must pull in my opinión) and i am sure in the future is gonna be a BROKEN support for the herta (just like happend to acheron) so pulling for the herta and saving for that better support♥️
As many have assume jade is the herta best pick although the answer is not necessarily, jade stressful kit is locked for pure fiction (aka need more enemies in the field constantly) and it tends to be overkill so I would rather use a normal herta than wasting jades on a jade, not to mention a lot of people skipped jade especially that owning percentage you showed says it all I would suggest to pull for jade only if you really like her other than that I wouldn’t bother
You do have a point, but you're definitely underestimating Jade way too much. She's still insanely powerful, and in the MoC with big Herta as well. Jade is definitely not a must have, but she is also definitely *at least slightly* better than small Herta and Himeko.
I think Jade is very valuable, but only if you consider choosing between her and Hertalter. They both essentially do the same thing, which is give value to older Erudition units by pairing with them. Then it boils to you preferring Hertalter and her raw damage capabilities (more universal) or Jade's super high frequency of attack (generally better in PF specifically and worse otherwise). Pulling for both, at least for now is wasteful if you're f2p, especially since you'll end up overkilling most AoE content. in the future, when we might need that kind of firepower, then yeah, but for now ? just pick the one you prefer between the two !
Jiaoqiu didn't prove anyone wrong, if you take just 2s to think about a character that gives a 35% to 50% pure damage increase that can stack with def break you could easily predict this unit was broken (btw he didn't lost that much during the beta, people still focused on the V0, you know, the pre-beta non-official version ^^")
I'm willing to bet that we'll get a more support-oriented Erudition later on to actually enable The Herta, her kit conditions sound very much like a problem that HoYo is planning to sell you a solution for.
6:15 did bro just said def have diminishing return bro think this is genshin My guy def in star rail is better tye more you have until 100% and good luck getting that even with 3 supports So no if a new acheron support gives def reduction pella would be better not worst
Proud e1 s1 Jade owner at her release not did she make me clear pf always on 12 stars shes so strong in MoC and AS too the amount of enemys they put in these 2 modes now too is insane she works with every single dps I take a dps matching the element and jade clears the little monsters😊
E1s1 jade keeps winning tbh. I wont recommend eidolons usually but its one of the best dps eidolons easily. It makes her pair so well with so many more units and is now very good in every game mode. She was an impulse pull cause hot. And her stonks have only gone up.
Jade will definitely be sought after when the 2 rows enemies comes, because her talent and ult stated “all enemies”, that’s gonna be instant FuA whenever another erudition hold “debt collector” status with “all enemies” attack move
My dilemma about pulling for Huohuo's rerun is that I have Aventurine, Fuxuan, and E6 Gallagher (decent built). I know I can use her in a lot of my current teams as well in the future however do I need another sustain? Those 3 can accomplish the necessary job and more. If ever, Fuxuan might get bench if I pull her. Just like you said, when new units have a high energy ultimate requirements, having Huohuo is an advantage.
same reason why i skipped adventurine, i don't need more sustains when i have fuxuan and huohuo (gallagher too but i kept forgetting he was a healer) i do like huohuo's small energy restore and how she can remove debuffs i would recommend waiting for the next best abundance/preservation unit (or linghsha) if fuxuan is too weak for you because damage mitigation can be a b-itc if enemy hits REALLY hard and she dies.
With remembrance, Fu Xuan is gonna fall hard cuz she has to tank for an extra unit now. Kinda weird how Adventurine shields working on memosprites makes him better while Fu Xuan gets worse for the same reason.
It is so worth pulling jade and huohuo!The way aglaea gets her energy from her and Sunday is amazing. I promise, he has spoken straight facts. Aglaea's team also is super fun to use. Especially against the horrendous mechanics of these new enemies.
There are no valuable reruns. Unless your name is Ruan mei, Robin or Sunday. The units become outdated faster thn you can say potaz. Even jade, I'm pretty sure there will be a 4 star who does wht she does with almost same effectively
We barely get 4 stars at all what makes you think we are going to get one even close to Jade? Plenty of old characters are still going strong right now there is no reason to not pull them because of future character we know nothing about. Acheron and Aventurine are still goated characters in every game mode from MOC to Echo of War to exploration and Simulated Universe
For now I have Jade as my main priority after I pull Sunday I doubt I would roll Fugue, I’d rather save for Jade, I think she would get her rerun with The Herta so I need to get prepared for her That’s for my alt account As for my main, I think I would pull Jiaoqiu for my Acheron and wait for Boothill (or vice versa)
okay okay i need help i have all the four star characters and well some few five stars and i dont known good teams to use i have sunday, jing yuan, rappa , feixioa, topaz, boothil, acheron, dan heng imbibiter lanae, kafka, welt, yangqing, clara, gepard, bailu and himeko i'll be thankfullfor suggestions because well i really need them
I already got Firefly E2S1 and recently got Sunday E0S1, now I’m planning for my future pulls with a different 2 options. Should I pull for Fugue+Boothill or Herta+Jade?
Oh no! You saw gameplay from the official HSR beta servers of 2 units that have already been officially announced! 99% of theorycraft and meta videos include leaks and beta footage, it's your own fault if you didn't want to see upcoming characters in a video about reruns with future value.
@ my problem isn’t the inclusion of leaks, it’s the fact that I wasn’t given any kind of warning that they were going to be shown or discussed here. Personally, I happen to enjoy seeing things only once the developers are ready to show them off. I don’t want unrealistic expectations for characters to taint my perception of them when they come out, that’s what made a lot of people think jiaoqiu was trash when he came out when he’s actually one of the most versatile characters in the whole game. People just saw that he got nerfed in the beta and assumed that meant he’d be bad. If you want to show leaks, that’s perfectly fine, just at least put up a notice of some kind first, damn.
@ speculation without leaks is entirely possible, and most channels are perfectly capable of it. A good example is EODGamer. You can make speculations based on things like enemy choice in endgame modes, and the officially announced elements and paths of future characters to inform about future meta changes. Of course, leaks can give you a more concrete view of it, but some people prefer to speculate rather than knowing for certain what is coming.
I'm curious about Jiaoqiu and whether he could beat e0s1 Kafka with e1s1 Black Swan for Acheron. I know most people will not have these, but I already had DoT and Dotcheron gave them invigorated life. Basically Kafka gives a petal on skill, then BS gives one with her basic and Kafka follows up, giving a third petal. Acheron gives two on her skill and almost any time Adventurine is hit and sometimes on his ult, he gives another petal (he's running Trend LC). I get her ult up very quickly and I don't think Jiaoqiu can beat that. Really don't want to waste tickets for a side-grade. I mean, I could use those for Feixiao and punt Ratio from my FU team 🤔
With how hoyo has made recent updates to Honkai Rail it's clear no character has true meta value because they will fall off by next few patches No use even pulling for value just pull for who you want
To be honest, I still have the same opinion about jade , she's just a mommy character with a clunky design and it feels like she's made as a bait for players to pull on😢
right now the only rerun banner im looking for is huohuo since i skipped her in her last rerun due to robin and feixiao and she is really good to skip again
2:11 Pulling jade for The Herta is not a good advice . Jade is better as they have quantum weakness but not enough for hearta . Her s1 or E1 will be better for Jade. That said if you like her character as a whole you should pull her. Her kit is good and game doesn't have many good "sub dps" units . She is the queen of PF. But don't pull if you eant soneone in your herta team as future Erudition will be better with her.
@devilhero1062 Fugue doesn't even compare to Jiaoqiu. She barely debuffs at all compared to him. If you want to make your Acheron strong then definitely hold off for a Jiaoqiu rerun. If you really want fugue, then you can use her skill on a sustain like Aventurine (I'm guessing you don't have him though since you said you pulled on the wrong banner) or Lingsha. You'd still need Jiaoqiu though. Edit: you can also use Guinaifen with Acheron. She's pretty good!
@@mooseoncaffeine yea man i thought hsr got same system as genshin when u go to shop the banner stay same as u left behind i accidentally do 10 pull on acheron pien man i also don't have lingsha since i skip to get Adventurine i do have Guinaifen but she's e0 since i started a few months ago guess i just have to make do with Guinaifen for now or just invest into Serval Sunday for current moc and APS
if you dont have huohuo, use gallagher with Quid pro quo lc and better save for 3.x sustain imo sustain rerun isn't really that good (luocha vs huohuo vs lingsha and fuxuan vs aven). and idk somehow hoyo always make good 4* alternatives healer so 5* healer lose a bit value, but not for shielder
Don’t pull Jade for Herta. Screwllum is coming eventually and he will be erudition most likely. He’s most likely gonna be a better teammate for The Herta than Jade. Until then, we can use Herta 4* or Himeko as partners for The Herta.
Is there some reliable info about Screwllum coming or is it just like the last 5 times, when he was predicted to come, just because he was present in some version trailer?
Screwllum has been leaked to be coming since 1.x and his kit has been scrapped and redone so many times by now. He’ll eventually come, but from the current leaks he’s not coming within the next 6 - 9 months. Its like saying dont pull acheron back in 2.1 because aglaea is coming.
@ You’re probably right. But right or not, it’s just not worth it to pull Jade for The Herta. Regardless of whenever Screwllum is coming, we’re better off sticking with Herta 4* or Himeko as The Herta teammates than pulling Jade-a minimal improvement.
I did a 10 pull in jade banner and lost it to broniya s5 but it was double 5 star i had jade the entire time she was at level 1 for how many months idk a month back i was stocked to see her in my account
If I wasn't very attracted to a certain one or two of these characters, my fully meta decision is pulling for Sunday but then waiting for Castorice, who is coming out in 3.2. However if you can't wait and need a DPS getting Aglaea is perfectly fine too, she's still powerful and will be for at least a while.
both are good, sunday is more future proof so you should already have him if you can. so if anything just make sure you have him and the rest is just what you find most fun
That is a good question although it is too soon to assume although the herta is an emanator so expect her to be incredible although jade won’t necessarily be her best pick since jade is locked in pure fiction and it tends to be overkill you might just use a normal herta instead which she still performs very good, and currently the herta best support pair is remembrance trailblazer so currently no need of a robin for now until the future beta updates although I would suggest getting the herta and her lightcone no need of jade
While you need a DPS on your account, having strong supports seems to matter more. So, taking out my crystal ball: Sunday and Aglaea. Aglaea can be that DPS if you need one. She's also new in 3.0 and will probably set the tone for the new META (whatever happens with summons, etc.). Harmony units (like Sunday) tend to be extremely valuable. Bronya for example is a day 1 character who is still considered top tier. Robin is on many people's "must pull" list. Sparkle has her place. Harmony MC is game-changing (he gives super break). You get the idea. There are basically no bad Harmony units, and they tend to find their way onto teams for months to come.
To be fair... Not really ANYONE is a must pull in rerun. The game is pretty easy and there are no PVP rankings and very little penalty for 10 or 11 star Pure Fiction vs full clear or 34 or 35 star MOC etc. You lose out on less than 10 pulls a year. Meh... But also MANY teams can clear with full stars with enough investment.
If you're skipping Sunday then go for The Herta. She's useful in all gamemodes as well, when there is ice weakness. Mostly in PF of course, but she's impressive in the MoC and ApocShadow as well.
Nah, his lightcone is mostly good for sp and a bit of damage increase. Broyna just gives the next best damage increase. His E0S0 is perfectly good on its own, he is still sp neutral and offers energy, AA for memsprites and action bar summons, and boost damage!
Go for herta e0s1, if you have extra pulls after that you can go for jade as well. If you don't get jade, 4 star herta is pretty much just as good in most cases anyways
I don't recommend pulling faixiao on rerun..after all she is hunt unit with very expensive team and scales with crit .. which mean she won't survive the more aoe content and the direct powercreep of the next best crit dmg dealer...i would rather pull for firefly for more consistent usability and dmg or rappa also for the same reasons.
ff and rappa literally needs ruan mei and hmc (fugue if you want to jump into the next meta with rmc) sometimes you even need them both in the same team (ff and rappa) while for feixiao the only limited 5* is Robin the rest of the team can be 4*
You cannot forgot the actual bosses in this game are single target focused and that won't change feixiao will be good for a long time to come and she definitely a worthy investment her e0s1 is Acheron level alone imo
We have a list of most upcoming characters, and so far, there are barely, if any, erudition characters coming. If you don't care about Jade then Small Herta and Himeko are very good teammates too. They'll only be a little bit worse in some endgame cycles depending on the enemies, but not by a detrimental amount. In fact, I've seen a Big Herta x Small Herta F2P team that's cleared the 3.0 MoC boss faster than some Aglaea teams.
Yeah I'ma use my e6 qq cause jade just ain't it I don't see the point of two pf characters Also herta will be doing a lot more and will probably be good outside pf where jade isn't
Recap :
5. Huohuo
4. Jade
3. Jiaoqiu
2. Robin
1. Feixiao
Praying for huohuo, Robin, and jade reruns
Praying for Jiaoqiu and Houhou!!!
I have only huohuo lol 💀I'll wait for feixiao and ruan mei
I'm proud to say that I never listened to Jiaoqiu doubters and pulled for my foxian husbando anyway. He makes my Misha go crazy.
I lost his 50/50😢😢😢
If HSR has taught me anything, it’s that reruns aren’t worth it if they aren’t support
By the time they rerun, they’re either already outdated or are 1/2 patches away from being sent to the trash bin i
And that is simply the nature of supports
Thats true i pulled danhel il at sparkle banner lol his damaged powercreep too fast
I got blade also when rerun😢 hes useless lmao
@@NisamiWusamibut , why tf did you pull blade in his rerun ????
@@ilovewagner
Blade looks flashy and stuff so new players probably like him idk
Jade is literally a 2nd Topaz, aging like fine wine💜
Yeah, she may become a second topaz if things go well for her, too.
I regret pulling her
I don't. Jade was my first limited, had just started, had no clue about anything, just saw hot step on me mommy and threw some pulls at her. Got her at 7 :D
@@emergencita9472I respect your truth 😂
@@kronasmotivationaldrink8342 No one is gonna be shy about pulling hot characters
I was looking into pulling PF units, so i can clear easier. The Herta seems perfect for that, but i don't want Jade at all... Hopefully, Herta and her puppet will be good enough for pf
Yeah a big herta x small herta team is going to destroy PF, using Jade is only going to bring marginal improvements, but it's still better overall.
Same pf is very tough for me
Tactics matter more than Herta Vs. Jade. Technically Jade is better, but I've seen plenty of runs where Herta users clear game modes in fewer turns than with Jade.
The truth is that no units currently synergize well with The Herta. Jade is good but their kits aren't really in sync.
i think people are sleeping on lingsha heavy… she not only has extremely reliable healing, but with sunday and fugue she can actually become a pretty good dps unit. sure, she doesnt really need sundays crit buffs, but the action advance for fuyuan and his battery help her attack so often.
jade and lingsha have some super nice synergy as well! with sundays action advance, lingsha and fuyuan can get 10 stacks for jade each time they attack (in pf at least) which is absolutely insane. really looking forward to jades rerun so i can try this out (and i want the herta too, so that gives jade even more opportunity to be worth it)
Bro no one is sleeping on her she's T0 💀
Yeah I should've mentioned her, to be honest.
i use her with himeko rm and tb :’) i have no firefly but the team works lol
@@NothingMeansNothingButNothing she was an easy skip to most people on her release LOL everyone thought she was just a galla replacement. she was even on the same tier as him on her release, so yeah i think she was slept on LMAO
sure, people see her power now an entire patch after her release but she was still seen as an easy skip when she was on banner
I e1 her and thats my favorite character actually she just crazy for me (and i ´m f2p
Def you should add Sunday in here, because of his enhancements for the future meta. Just like huohuo, Sunday is Aglaea's BiS support right now, unless he gets major powercrept in future(which I don't see happening). Just as he provides buffs to Aglaea, he can provide buffs for future remembrance units.
the title says reruns
@@hutao....... Yea, I'm saying after his banner is over sunday is a great option as a must pull for a future video if he is making one.
I remember pulling for Jade when she was released and i was really new. Im really happpy that those early pulls didn't go to waste
I rolled E1 S1 Jiaoqiu. No Regrets. I also use him in my DoT team with Kafka and Black Swan.
genuinely one of the best supports with that combo, good stuff
Jiaoqiu left more than dot support he’s literally best support
E1S1 makes him one of the best supports in the game. GGs
do NOT pull for jade just for The Herta,
Jade and The Herta function very similar, as they both want a high frequency attacking unit
well, one of them needs erudition...
however, The Herta does infact NOT provide enough stacks for Jade to create a good enough feedback loop.
we also have another quantum unit coming up in castorice, who might be playable in all modes (see aglaea)
If you like her, go for her, however if you were on the fence of pulling her just for The Herta, i'd advise against it.
not to mention we have 3 other (albeit rumored) erudition units coming up, with a 4* one coming maybe in 3.1
With sunday she does provide enough stacks for jade tho
@JustSkiiThat's a lot of investment. Most players can't grab Sunday and The Herta.
@@RMX7777 yep i agree since they're only 1 banner away with each other but if you can get em both maybe it'll work
@@RMX7777 herta banner is going to last 42 days and jade is going to be only for 22 days
@@Darck800 That isn't confirmed. I can't recall the source, but there was someone related to Hoyo's English department that said that Herta was getting a normal length banner.
It's possible they had bad info though, we won't know until the 3.0 release trailer.
Sooooo happy I got my e2s1 jade when everyone hated her for no reason 😂
Congrats! Definitely insanely strong at E2S1.
Please hoyo bless me with a blade rerun I pray and I beg everyday till the day I get to have my glorious king Blade
he's so bad, you should wait because other hp scaling unit are coming
@ nah I do what I want thanks for nothing :) it’s nice that people try to convince people who have made up their minds to do otherwise as if that would actually work lol
bro I'm just giving you advice, blade is "a bad character" but it's your choice if u want to spin him or not
@@alessandrobellamoli3409 bad advice you can't convince people who already made up their minds :-) but thanks anyways you had good intentions I appreciate it
@@alessandrobellamoli3409 also you don't know anything about me or my account you just assume I know nothing and want to pull for Blade just because ( I have enough characters to clear the end game I have plenty of e6s, I don't care for meta, most reruns will have outdated character but they are made for people who still want them if they missed out on and the meta will always change so me just wanting Blade 1 character e6s5 doesn't change much, in the long run, ok) don't assume everyone is in the same position or is like you I have money, research( leaks and guides) and plenty of resources.
I am gonna pull for herta and her lc but i am not gonna pull for jade, she is the best to use With the herta because that's the only thing we have (she works fine With the herta but is not that crazy or a must pull in my opinión) and i am sure in the future is gonna be a BROKEN support for the herta (just like happend to acheron) so pulling for the herta and saving for that better support♥️
As many have assume jade is the herta best pick although the answer is not necessarily, jade stressful kit is locked for pure fiction (aka need more enemies in the field constantly) and it tends to be overkill so I would rather use a normal herta than wasting jades on a jade, not to mention a lot of people skipped jade especially that owning percentage you showed says it all I would suggest to pull for jade only if you really like her other than that I wouldn’t bother
You do have a point, but you're definitely underestimating Jade way too much. She's still insanely powerful, and in the MoC with big Herta as well.
Jade is definitely not a must have, but she is also definitely *at least slightly* better than small Herta and Himeko.
she has quite a bit of value purely because there isn’t a lot of quantum characters anyway
I think Jade is very valuable, but only if you consider choosing between her and Hertalter. They both essentially do the same thing, which is give value to older Erudition units by pairing with them. Then it boils to you preferring Hertalter and her raw damage capabilities (more universal) or Jade's super high frequency of attack (generally better in PF specifically and worse otherwise).
Pulling for both, at least for now is wasteful if you're f2p, especially since you'll end up overkilling most AoE content. in the future, when we might need that kind of firepower, then yeah, but for now ? just pick the one you prefer between the two !
Will plan to E1S1 her, currently E0S0, wish me luck 🎉
@JackAcegard good luck, I'm in the same position as you so hopefully we win those 50/50s and 75/25s
Jiaoqiu didn't prove anyone wrong, if you take just 2s to think about a character that gives a 35% to 50% pure damage increase that can stack with def break you could easily predict this unit was broken (btw he didn't lost that much during the beta, people still focused on the V0, you know, the pre-beta non-official version ^^")
oh you cultured man with jade on the thumbnail
🫡😎
I'm willing to bet that we'll get a more support-oriented Erudition later on to actually enable The Herta, her kit conditions sound very much like a problem that HoYo is planning to sell you a solution for.
6:15 did bro just said def have diminishing return bro think this is genshin
My guy def in star rail is better tye more you have until 100% and good luck getting that even with 3 supports
So no if a new acheron support gives def reduction pella would be better not worst
Proud e1 s1 Jade owner at her release not did she make me clear pf always on 12 stars shes so strong in MoC and AS too the amount of enemys they put in these 2 modes now too is insane she works with every single dps I take a dps matching the element and jade clears the little monsters😊
E1s1 jade keeps winning tbh. I wont recommend eidolons usually but its one of the best dps eidolons easily. It makes her pair so well with so many more units and is now very good in every game mode. She was an impulse pull cause hot. And her stonks have only gone up.
Jade will definitely be sought after when the 2 rows enemies comes, because her talent and ult stated “all enemies”, that’s gonna be instant FuA whenever another erudition hold “debt collector” status with “all enemies” attack move
My dilemma about pulling for Huohuo's rerun is that I have Aventurine, Fuxuan, and E6 Gallagher (decent built). I know I can use her in a lot of my current teams as well in the future however do I need another sustain? Those 3 can accomplish the necessary job and more.
If ever, Fuxuan might get bench if I pull her. Just like you said, when new units have a high energy ultimate requirements, having Huohuo is an advantage.
Or wait for another healer that charge Energy / huohuo Powercrep
QPQ Gallagher is probably fine
same reason why i skipped adventurine, i don't need more sustains when i have fuxuan and huohuo (gallagher too but i kept forgetting he was a healer)
i do like huohuo's small energy restore and how she can remove debuffs
i would recommend waiting for the next best abundance/preservation unit (or linghsha) if fuxuan is too weak for you because damage mitigation can be a b-itc if enemy hits REALLY hard and she dies.
@@OktaAlozna so wait for a year or a half, basically...
With remembrance, Fu Xuan is gonna fall hard cuz she has to tank for an extra unit now. Kinda weird how Adventurine shields working on memosprites makes him better while Fu Xuan gets worse for the same reason.
Im so glad i got Robin E1 on her rerun, i want Jade E1 and Ratio E1 :D
It is so worth pulling jade and huohuo!The way aglaea gets her energy from her and Sunday is amazing. I promise, he has spoken straight facts. Aglaea's team also is super fun to use. Especially against the horrendous mechanics of these new enemies.
yet another intelligent moose. people say pigs are smart but nah moose reign supreme (excellent advice btw i agree with all of your choices)
There are no valuable reruns. Unless your name is Ruan mei, Robin or Sunday.
The units become outdated faster thn you can say potaz. Even jade, I'm pretty sure there will be a 4 star who does wht she does with almost same effectively
funny you say there will be a 4 star when the release rate of 4* is sad
We barely get 4 stars at all what makes you think we are going to get one even close to Jade? Plenty of old characters are still going strong right now there is no reason to not pull them because of future character we know nothing about.
Acheron and Aventurine are still goated characters in every game mode from MOC to Echo of War to exploration and Simulated Universe
@@katsuragikeima8809 kinda weird since 4 stars are a bit harder to get (if your luck is insanely bad)
Agreed. The only reruns worthwhile are support reruns. When the time for a main dps to rerun comes they are already irrelevant
You just named 3 valuable reruns. They wouldn't be called valuable reruns if almost everyone was valuable now would they?
My Level 1 Jade might need to be built but im in denial i REFUSE
For now I have Jade as my main priority after I pull Sunday
I doubt I would roll Fugue, I’d rather save for Jade, I think she would get her rerun with The Herta so I need to get prepared for her
That’s for my alt account
As for my main, I think I would pull Jiaoqiu for my Acheron and wait for Boothill (or vice versa)
Ruan mei… I know you might never come back but…it’s nice to hope
Its nice to see that Jade will be more then eye candy soon.
When is boothill rerun
Unfortunately, we have no idea 🫠
@mooseoncaffeine 🥲
It's been rumoured that he'll be in 3.0, but not confirmed, even then if I had to guess he'd be early on in 3.X
@@Atlas-ig7zs Don't worry, we have more time to save for him on the bright side
@@bloonbrawler9872 ...or less time to play him while he's still playable in MoC
The two in the thumbnail literally my picks
will there be another robin rerun? Can anybody update me once there is any leak? Thank you so much
My latest cracked team is Jade, Lingsha, RM, Sunday. Crit-Sha built… better than the healer built. Very fun team.
Ruan Mei & Robin. Yep.
I loved Jiao immediately 🥰 i got him right away. I got Archeron for him lol
At last i find another jade e1 feixiao team supporter
okay okay i need help i have all the four star characters and well some few five stars and i dont known good teams to use i have sunday, jing yuan, rappa , feixioa, topaz, boothil, acheron, dan heng imbibiter lanae, kafka, welt, yangqing, clara, gepard, bailu and himeko i'll be thankfullfor suggestions because well i really need them
Skipping jade even if she reruns pretty sure a better erudition unit will come around out of the 13 flame chasers.
I really need huohuo, sometimes I wish I could use my E2 Aven on both sides but oh well...
I already got Firefly E2S1 and recently got Sunday E0S1, now I’m planning for my future pulls with a different 2 options.
Should I pull for Fugue+Boothill or Herta+Jade?
I wanted Fugue but I might not have enough for The Herta. I got some decisions to make....
I LOVE LEAKS BEING SPOILED TO ME WITHOUT PRIOR WARNING!!!
Oh no! You saw gameplay from the official HSR beta servers of 2 units that have already been officially announced! 99% of theorycraft and meta videos include leaks and beta footage, it's your own fault if you didn't want to see upcoming characters in a video about reruns with future value.
@ my problem isn’t the inclusion of leaks, it’s the fact that I wasn’t given any kind of warning that they were going to be shown or discussed here. Personally, I happen to enjoy seeing things only once the developers are ready to show them off. I don’t want unrealistic expectations for characters to taint my perception of them when they come out, that’s what made a lot of people think jiaoqiu was trash when he came out when he’s actually one of the most versatile characters in the whole game. People just saw that he got nerfed in the beta and assumed that meant he’d be bad. If you want to show leaks, that’s perfectly fine, just at least put up a notice of some kind first, damn.
@@hornswaggle4127 Just don't watch videos about HSR then? Wtf are people going to discuss in future meta videos except for upcoming content
@ speculation without leaks is entirely possible, and most channels are perfectly capable of it. A good example is EODGamer. You can make speculations based on things like enemy choice in endgame modes, and the officially announced elements and paths of future characters to inform about future meta changes. Of course, leaks can give you a more concrete view of it, but some people prefer to speculate rather than knowing for certain what is coming.
its a video about future reruns...what do you expect
I'm curious about Jiaoqiu and whether he could beat e0s1 Kafka with e1s1 Black Swan for Acheron. I know most people will not have these, but I already had DoT and Dotcheron gave them invigorated life. Basically Kafka gives a petal on skill, then BS gives one with her basic and Kafka follows up, giving a third petal. Acheron gives two on her skill and almost any time Adventurine is hit and sometimes on his ult, he gives another petal (he's running Trend LC). I get her ult up very quickly and I don't think Jiaoqiu can beat that. Really don't want to waste tickets for a side-grade. I mean, I could use those for Feixiao and punt Ratio from my FU team 🤔
I either want ruan mei or ling sha cuz i regret not takin them
Def getting Jiaqiu on his rerun, my acheron without him feels so useless, my JY with sunday is way better
With how hoyo has made recent updates to Honkai Rail it's clear no character has true meta value because they will fall off by next few patches
No use even pulling for value just pull for who you want
Next few patches? Even a dps that falls off is good for at least 6 months. How long do you expect to use a character?
mommmm, the guy who pulls for every character and doesn’t max any of his traces is complaining about the state of the game again 🫵🙄
@@sphong0610 forever lololol
To be honest, I still have the same opinion about jade , she's just a mommy character with a clunky design and it feels like she's made as a bait for players to pull on😢
right now the only rerun banner im looking for is huohuo since i skipped her in her last rerun due to robin and feixiao and she is really good to skip again
Jade is my fav ever
Got both Houhou and Sunday 😎. Nuke Agleia, here she comes
2:11 Pulling jade for The Herta is not a good advice . Jade is better as they have quantum weakness but not enough for hearta . Her s1 or E1 will be better for Jade.
That said if you like her character as a whole you should pull her. Her kit is good and game doesn't have many good "sub dps" units . She is the queen of PF. But don't pull if you eant soneone in your herta team as future Erudition will be better with her.
How is fugue compare to Jiaoqiu?
Cuz I pulled on wrong banner and I stucked with Acheron E0S0 with pela as only Nihi unit
@devilhero1062 Fugue doesn't even compare to Jiaoqiu. She barely debuffs at all compared to him. If you want to make your Acheron strong then definitely hold off for a Jiaoqiu rerun.
If you really want fugue, then you can use her skill on a sustain like Aventurine (I'm guessing you don't have him though since you said you pulled on the wrong banner) or Lingsha. You'd still need Jiaoqiu though.
Edit: you can also use Guinaifen with Acheron. She's pretty good!
@@mooseoncaffeine yea man i thought hsr got same system as genshin when u go to shop the banner stay same as u left behind i accidentally do 10 pull on acheron pien man
i also don't have lingsha since i skip to get Adventurine
i do have Guinaifen but she's e0 since i started a few months ago
guess i just have to make do with Guinaifen for now or just invest into Serval Sunday for current moc and APS
prio rerun : Luocha🎉
if you dont have huohuo, use gallagher with Quid pro quo lc and better save for 3.x sustain
imo sustain rerun isn't really that good (luocha vs huohuo vs lingsha and fuxuan vs aven). and idk somehow hoyo always make good 4* alternatives healer so 5* healer lose a bit value, but not for shielder
Finally someone acknowledging quid pro quo being useful in a lot of cases
Don’t pull Jade for Herta. Screwllum is coming eventually and he will be erudition most likely. He’s most likely gonna be a better teammate for The Herta than Jade. Until then, we can use Herta 4* or Himeko as partners for The Herta.
Screwllum is coming 🤡🤡🤡
@ Clueless 🤡
Is there some reliable info about Screwllum coming or is it just like the last 5 times, when he was predicted to come, just because he was present in some version trailer?
Screwllum has been leaked to be coming since 1.x and his kit has been scrapped and redone so many times by now. He’ll eventually come, but from the current leaks he’s not coming within the next 6 - 9 months.
Its like saying dont pull acheron back in 2.1 because aglaea is coming.
@ You’re probably right. But right or not, it’s just not worth it to pull Jade for The Herta. Regardless of whenever Screwllum is coming, we’re better off sticking with Herta 4* or Himeko as The Herta teammates than pulling Jade-a minimal improvement.
dr ratio rerun when??? im gonna cry
should I prioritize jade or the herta??
bro plz give warning if you're gonna leak unreleased character animations, damn
Sorry, I always do that and I assume people who watch my channel want to watch it, too.
I'll provide a slight warning when applicable next time.
@@mooseoncaffeine I get ya, but some ppl are selective about what kit or animation leaks they seek out so ya, really appreciate it ty
I did a 10 pull in jade banner and lost it to broniya s5 but it was double 5 star i had jade the entire time she was at level 1 for how many months idk a month back i was stocked to see her in my account
Hey everyone i got a question
Should i pull for the herta and jade or aglaea and sunday??
If I wasn't very attracted to a certain one or two of these characters, my fully meta decision is pulling for Sunday but then waiting for Castorice, who is coming out in 3.2. However if you can't wait and need a DPS getting Aglaea is perfectly fine too, she's still powerful and will be for at least a while.
both are good, sunday is more future proof so you should already have him if you can. so if anything just make sure you have him and the rest is just what you find most fun
That is a good question although it is too soon to assume although the herta is an emanator so expect her to be incredible although jade won’t necessarily be her best pick since jade is locked in pure fiction and it tends to be overkill you might just use a normal herta instead which she still performs very good, and currently the herta best support pair is remembrance trailblazer so currently no need of a robin for now until the future beta updates although I would suggest getting the herta and her lightcone no need of jade
While you need a DPS on your account, having strong supports seems to matter more. So, taking out my crystal ball: Sunday and Aglaea.
Aglaea can be that DPS if you need one. She's also new in 3.0 and will probably set the tone for the new META (whatever happens with summons, etc.).
Harmony units (like Sunday) tend to be extremely valuable. Bronya for example is a day 1 character who is still considered top tier. Robin is on many people's "must pull" list. Sparkle has her place. Harmony MC is game-changing (he gives super break). You get the idea. There are basically no bad Harmony units, and they tend to find their way onto teams for months to come.
get Sunday (i hate him) and if you really need a dps then the Herta too, I'd skip Jade sure she is nice but smol Herta is good enough
When tf is ruan mei's rerun
To be fair... Not really ANYONE is a must pull in rerun. The game is pretty easy and there are no PVP rankings and very little penalty for 10 or 11 star Pure Fiction vs full clear or 34 or 35 star MOC etc. You lose out on less than 10 pulls a year. Meh... But also MANY teams can clear with full stars with enough investment.
All i want is just huohuo, fuxuan,lingsha,ruan mei😢
Saying jiaoqiu is the worst looking character when Yunli exists is crazy
then enjoy playing an npc
@@Seraph_op I like playing npc more than ugly a$$
going for jade over herta, hopefully e1 if im lucky
Good luck!
Why is lingsha not on here
I already own Jade and skip Sunday but struggle in all games mode I am hesitant between The herta Aglaea or castoris
If you're skipping Sunday then go for The Herta.
She's useful in all gamemodes as well, when there is ice weakness.
Mostly in PF of course, but she's impressive in the MoC and ApocShadow as well.
As cool as herta is im only at like about 8000 jades so im probably gunna skip 3.0 for castorice for my e0s1 sunday
What is it will stone hearts and them getting better better and better
i wanna get sunday but people are saying that he is not good without at least bronya lc
This is just not true, bronyas light cone helps him but doesn't define him, he can still be very very good even with a 3 star lightcone
Nah, his lightcone is mostly good for sp and a bit of damage increase. Broyna just gives the next best damage increase. His E0S0 is perfectly good on its own, he is still sp neutral and offers energy, AA for memsprites and action bar summons, and boost damage!
i am not getting robin, might get jade AFTER herta tho
and since i am not picking up robin i am not picking up feixiao
Im pull jade in rerun wish me luck
I’m not pulling that thing...
should i get jade cuz i am aiming for herta
Go for herta e0s1, if you have extra pulls after that you can go for jade as well. If you don't get jade, 4 star herta is pretty much just as good in most cases anyways
@i have the 4 star herta at e6 with a pretty decent build and my pity is 72 should i get jade then?
@@sussussy255 what's your herta cr/cd and speed
I don't recommend pulling faixiao on rerun..after all she is hunt unit with very expensive team and scales with crit .. which mean she won't survive the more aoe content and the direct powercreep of the next best crit dmg dealer...i would rather pull for firefly for more consistent usability and dmg or rappa also for the same reasons.
ff and rappa literally needs ruan mei and hmc (fugue if you want to jump into the next meta with rmc) sometimes you even need them both in the same team (ff and rappa) while for feixiao the only limited 5* is Robin the rest of the team can be 4*
that's such a dumb take lmao
You cannot forgot the actual bosses in this game are single target focused and that won't change feixiao will be good for a long time to come and she definitely a worthy investment her e0s1 is Acheron level alone imo
I don't care about Jade at all so I hope some new Erudition character is released to be the new best in slot on Big Herta's teams.
We have a list of most upcoming characters, and so far, there are barely, if any, erudition characters coming.
If you don't care about Jade then Small Herta and Himeko are very good teammates too. They'll only be a little bit worse in some endgame cycles depending on the enemies, but not by a detrimental amount.
In fact, I've seen a Big Herta x Small Herta F2P team that's cleared the 3.0 MoC boss faster than some Aglaea teams.
Yeah I'ma use my e6 qq cause jade just ain't it I don't see the point of two pf characters
Also herta will be doing a lot more and will probably be good outside pf where jade isn't
E1 Jade haver 💜
Dog ahh npc outfit 💀
dont really care for Jiaoqiu. but defo going for herta cuz i rather have waifu over meta anytime