Kalashnikov-USA KR9 500 rd Review: Did The Saiga-9 Wannabe Go The Distance?
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Its here finally folks, our full length review of the new KR-9 Carbine from Kalashnikov-USA. Actually, this is only Part 1 of 2.
We begin with a brief history of the PP19 Bizon and Vityaz-SN SMGs used in Russia, as well as Izhmash's semi-auto Saiga-9 carbine.
Then we compare the KR9 with two Izhmash imports, the SGL31-94 and SGL12-94 to see how close K-USA got to an authentic clone.
On to the main event, we run 500 rounds through the new carbine at the range, trying several ammo brands and 5 OEM mags.
And to finish up we return to the table for disassembling and a look inside; plus some final thoughts on today's results.
Part #2 will be a 'Discussion At The Range' episode where we both pit the KR9 against the Romanian Nova PAK9 and NAK9.
So stay tuned for that and more.
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The moment Mishaco said “it’s not Russian but it’s so close I don’t care” I was floored with the idea of this gun
Just ordered one of these and can't wait for it to arrive. Other then the price of ammo atm this thing should be so fun.
@@jakes3139 Agreed. Just ordered one too, my friend.
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Mischa is by far my favorite blind gun guy!!!!! In all seriousness we love you Mischa keep doing your thing brother
lol thanks.
They are absolutely the coolest gun to come out in a very long time.
if you turn off the sound you can hear the rifle screaming "SBR me'
Just buy a KP-9 and the stock - bam, the hard work is done.
18:09
"what was that about slow firing?"
"Never mind" lol
Golden haha
Great review man! So far i haven’t had any issues with my Kp9 either. Its ran great. Definitely going to sbr it soon. Keep up the good work bud.
I'm just amazed that Kalash USA has actual hardware. Love you guys, your content is always excellent!!!
Yeah tell me about it, we're alsso amazed KUSA is seemingly 'real' now lol.
Who is actually assembling this thing??
Great review and breakdown of the KR9. Awesome little gun. Just picked one up.
A 16” 9mm carbines never made more sense then now. I need it 😀
Calendar on the fridge says 2016. Its almost like Mishaco here got these back when KUSA said they were going to release them and his been sitting on the video the whole time.
Drat, found out!
@@misha5670 wow...
It's a blast to shoot. I have this one and a PTR9 great two for plinking
Great review. You are a walking encylopedia. Fantastic gun.
Really hope Kalashnikov USA puts some friendly pressure on other manufacturers/importers to bring some cool stuff to market. This gun looks great!
this is built in the USA, has nothing to do with importers.
There is no word in any language that Misha loves to say more that "Tokarev" lol.
No one can deny this.
Its awesome when misha shoots blind and the bullets stay in a paper plate size group.
I like this a lot. We need a company willing to make Russian style modern firearms. What I would love to see is an ak12.
Meh...nothing really revolutionary about the 12 or the 15.
Jarvis Coleman yeah besides the ak107 and an94 the ak100 are pretty much the same as the Soviet era stuff series
I need one of these ASAP!! Woot woot 🍾🇺🇸
Terrific video and you bring more value and education than the vast majority of the reviewers who apparently aren't using their senses.
Thank you much for watching
@@misha5670 You are quite welcome. Just watching your AK series and am dumbfounded it does not have 5 million views yet.
@@misha5670 Although I will say, In russia, no such thing as "Krink"... they never called them Krinks, it is an American term for essentially the AK74su.
Might want to go to the AK47/AK74 History playlist, scroll down to the video on the AKS74U & Other Shorties.
Thanks for the video Sir. The time and effort you put in is most appreciated.
Recently got one, I’m in love with it. I even dream about it. Lol😊
Mine is in the mail from impact guns as i write this! I'd love to see a 7.62x25 variant of this platform. Thanks for another great review.
Now that is a great idea
Can’t wait to get mine, good vityaz history video, I can’t find a lot of pictures of this or the bizon
I got the izmash Saiga 9mm in Pakistan . We get all the saiga cakibers here . Love them i have a saiga 5.45 and now the 9mm. I also have rissian military AKM 7.62
It looks great but that 16 inch beral ruined it if there is one gun you should SBR it it's this one . Stupid law just to collect more money from you. Greetings from sunny Slovenia it is almost spring here hope weather is going to be as nice as it is no more winter please hehe
Actually, it has nothing to do with money. It is about control. Truth is the gov't spends more than the $200 tax cost to actually run and issue the SBR stamp...Yeah only a gov't could manage that but there it is.
When the 1934 NFA was passed, $200 was intended to be prohibitively expensive. These days it's more of a nuisance. There's a lot of talk about "common sense gun law" from the other side, but they never acknowledge how ridiculous it is that attaching a stock to a pistol (making it less concealable) is illegal. As for the weather, I live in Illinois where winter is moderately oppressive, but in two weeks I'm going to Arizona, where the temperature should be ideal.
Definitive Arms had a better solution on their AKX-9 - they had the threads at the sight tower and had a long extension with a similar outward diameter as the barrel. It had flash hider slots at the end so it didn't look too goofy. Given that it was attached by a small weld, you could easily remove it after SBRing.
Are SBRs legal in Slovenia?
@@SuperSmith yes gun is gun
Love my KR-9 only complaint is the dust cover getting dented from hitting rear sight.
Oh in the open position?
“They have done what US Manufacturers should do”. My friend, I could not agree more. The design of the system coupled with KUSA’s execution makes for an awesome product for us. If there was no NFA, would you go for the shorty or stick with the carbine?
No reason for anybody to prefer 16" barrel in 9mm if it wasn't for the NFA. On this gun you don't get a longer sight radius. And 9mm only gains like 20-50fps when you go from 9 to 16", depending on the load. In the real world, that difference is negligible.
The only benefits for the longer barrel on this gun are it makes it easier to find in the dark and its a longer stick in case you need to swing it at somebody.
With no nfa, the short barrel is the no brainer. We ended up with the rifle in part because of a availability, but also because it already has the right stock and hardware. If Misha ever decided to SBR, it's a simple matter of cutting and crowning the barrel. That said,the rifle version is really darn close in appearance to the Saiga 9 carbine. - Jay
Actually? I kind of like what Izhmash did with the Saiga-9...a 13" or 14" barrel seems about right for this one.
Man being you guys have given it a good review I will be buying one asap. Soon as I saw the video in my feed I figured you would be roasting it to pieces. Are they going to make any 5.45/5.56 rifles in the future?
Last time I asked that on the K-USA UA-cam they told me to email them with my questions. So we probably won't see one for years.
I asked about them making 7.62 and 5.45 guns in the future and they said they are working on them and will announce them closer to their release date. They didn’t say if it was any time soon. They did have the 7.62 guns listed in their website for a while but took them down before Shot Show. I’m hoping, with the new management, that they start turning out guns within a year or so.
I never believed K-USA would produce anything worth considering , guess I was wrong(happily!) . The fact that it has not failed ( with various ammo) in 500 rds looks to be a really good sign . I have posted earlier that 1000+ rds without fail means .... its a capable home defense weapon. The same standard I use for 9mm carry pistols. So far , from your tests ,it looks promising . To be honest , I am not a fan of the 9mm AK but ,,, it holds out hope for , maybe , a quality 100% American 7.62--5.45 . One that does not self destruct . . Good video and looking forward to more on this KR-9. Thanks !!!!!!
I tend to agree: 1k is a reasonable basic test. Most of the time any major issues will start to appear by that point....usually.
Ok, I’m sold. Thanks a lot for causing my credit card debt to increase.
Davy Jones where's your locker Davy Jones? 😊 JK!
Buy one from Atlantic...every gun we sell for them, Blaine mails me a cookie lol.
Thank you for these videos Misha! I live in California where anything over 10 rounds is a felony, any weapon under 16 inches is a felony… same with automatics, folding stocks, semi auto machine guns, silencers, the list goes on. Luckily they make a CA model of this. In July, our state, has mandated an additional 11% tax for all purchases on top of the federal 11% and standard taxes. We also have background checks and fees for ammo. Because of your videos, I am able to make the best decisions for robust weapons that will last. A lot of Californians that are currently stuck here, are worried about our border issues with rising crime and the state government closing in on our 2nd amendment rights. Aka the weapon collecting and door knocking. Thank you for the informed videos!
Your knowledge is much welcomed from WA state!
As is your view from AR.
Will be interested to see how this compares to my Colt 6991 9mm sbr. I just ordered the KR9 carbine and will sbr it.
KUSA did a fantastic job. I think you are 100% correct about them having CAD files and molds. It makes me wonder what else is in the works? Perhaps an SVD? We can only hope. It would be a grand slam home run if they put one out in 54R.
If someone had an idea the sanctions were coming, which they did, it would have been a very smart move to get as much of the TDP from Izhmash before the ban was official. Just sayin', cheers.
Nice. Very enjoyable video. Thank you.
@ 25:05 why is that little spacer or whatever it's called, needed? I swamped the stock spring with my ak spring just to see if it fits, and they're the exact same size. So what exactly does that extra plastic material do? Is it protecting the spring for the folding stock? Would it be okay to just use a standard ak spring with a little rubber stop on it?
I just picked one up and was surprised to get an under 800 serial number.
Классное видео. Классный канал!
Id like one in 762x25 that takes ppsh 43 mags
2,012 Izhmash were banned, 2,014 Molot/Veprs were banned
i really love how this guy talks!
Gun asmr
Wow, using the ejector for the out of battery safety is pretty smart!!
Semi Uzi does the same thing.
Man i really wish it was Russian but I think it's cool enough to look past the US made part on this one. They took forever to release this thing but it sounds like they finally got it right. It'll be interesting to see what other Russian copies they produce in the future.
Yes it will
Misha thanks for another great video. Is the magazine well polymer? Also do the magazines have steel reinforcements? I’m looking to buy a KP9 and would love to give your shop the business if you’re able to get them in and ship them my way via your Gunbroker. Thanks for all you do.
I’m very impressed with this so 9mm, i’m going to have to pick one up when I can afford to, it’s funny you mention the federal aluminum all my guns will run it my CZ pistols will run it all day my scorpion evo will run it with no problems at all, I guess I’ve never had that issue with it not wanting to run in my guns
I bought about 300 rounds from WM back when the aluminum case just came to market years ago. These 3 AKs were the only thing we've been able to get it to cycle. Every other gun, Glocks, Scorpion Evo 3, numerous Walthers, POF and MKE MP5 (K and full size), Ruger PC9, even an Uzi Pro ended with a stuck case and often had to be tapped out with a cleaning rod. It's possible they've improved the design on the ammo or this was a bad lot - or you've "Mr. Glass"-ed all my ammo luck from me :). - Jay
Mishaco Sounds like it was a bad batch of ammo
Bad batch or just bad ammo; the fact is the KR9 ate it like cake.
Misha Well that’s certainly a good thing
I've had quite the opposite experience with the aluminum stuff in my CZ pistols. It's the only ammo that has a weak extraction and has caused several FTE's in my SP-01 tactics and 75 Compact.
Now I want one.
Shocked i tells ya, shocked lol
@@misha5670 Haha. I'm sure you are. Imagine that. lol
@16:10 "Win White Box, Cheapo Walmart" ........ohh how the times have changed in 2022
Does it work right out of the box unlike the disappointed PSA AK-V?
Yep, i haven't done anything to it aside from replace the trigger for personal/ergonomic/cosmetic reasons. I just can't stand G2s these days.
@@misha5670 Was thinking about upgrading the KP-9 trigger to try to make it a little more ... “precision.”
Any recommendations on a trigger ?
I'm pretty sure I need one.
Of course you do
I really like that muzzle brake
What's the paint like? Any better than the typical AK paint found on Arsenal guns?
Early days but so far? seems better than say Arsenal paint or WBP.
Man that human bump fire is awesome. lol. I just picked up mine. I was able to put some red wood furniture on it. The only ammo I've had issues with was new republic. I don't recommend the ammo. Definitely was not the gun.
Were can someone find that blue sling on the kr9
They are usually sold as 'East German' though I've seen some claim 'Russian Navy'. Honestly? I needed a sling for it and this one was the first one i grabbed out of the bin here. I prob have another. If you want it, feel free to e-mail me, cheers.
Were could I find your email address
Hey Misha, do you think K. USA gets their blue prints straight from the Russia factory? If so, do you think this may be why it’s so exact?
Sorry, not going to speculate on that publically hehe
No they dont infact all the Dem's are looking KUSA ass with a scope trying to tie KUSA into Russia
Exactly, and we aren't going to help them in any way. KUSA has nothing to do with Russia. They are just awesome reverse-engineers is all hehehe.
That fime trigger isn't the 2 stage type that they put in the new arsenals is it? Those aren't bad triggers but that 9mm needs a nice fast trigger and those 2 stage type arsenal triggers are slow as f. They aren't bad just different.
Seems to be working plenty fast enough lol.
My cz scorpion loves steel and aluminum and my new NAK9 isn’t going to look bad as well
good
I need a part 2
What is the origin of the sling?
What I want to know is this thing priced so I can afford to send it off to Definitive Arms for a Colt SMG pattern magwell.
Why in the world would you want to do that?
You are the Roy Orbison of guns.😃
People will crucify me, but I really like carbines with barrels that stick out 6 inches from the handguard. I think it looks cool.
Maybe we're just tired of shorty 'pistols' with armbraces? but we like how the KR9 looks too. The barrel really deson't seem too out of place. I think if it were 14" or so, it would look just about perfect....so maybe 1 day I'll cut it down and P+W the muzzle brake on? We'll see.
@@misha5670 we should repeal the nfa
I like it better when its a 10" barrel with 8" suppressor. As opposed to 16" of barrel and that same 8" of suppressor.
@@giantpune right on!
For me, I will never purchase an NFA item until that shit is repealed.
If I got the pistol version, how would I put a folding buffer tube on it?
You'd need a 5.5mm side folding pin adaptor block thingy.
@@misha5670 I just realized there's a universal magnetic pistol brace that requires no adapter. It's called the Magnabrace. Would you be willing to review it on your channel?
Wonder how it compares to
PSA AK9 and Definitive Arms AKX9...
I kinda want one of these, just because of the Mag design.
Jose I would consider both of those to be based on the vityaz but not the same. Especially the AKX9. This KP-9 is a direct clone based on what I've seen thus far.
What is the difference between ammunition in the pistol 9mm and the 9mm Kalashnikov saiga-9 exp kalashnikov semi automatic . Is there a difference or it could be installed on it. 9x19 mm. or The are same Thank you
They run the same caliber 9x19
@@shahreyaralam1019 thanks
where can I get a sling like that blue one you have on the KR9 in this video ?
In Pakistan, quetta, wear available this gun, & how much price,
Misha, how did you get the top handguard reinstalled on this thing? Handguard metal is stopping the latch from closing into place. I'm stumped, plz help me man.
pull back on the tube and it will seat down where it is supposed to ie pull back and collapse the tension spring some itll slide right in!
@@williammorton9176 2 years later and I get a response! Thanks man. I did figure it out shortly after I posted that, it was indeed just about pulling the top back.
what kind precision this gun have on 50 -100 ?
@17:03 for the magic
What all would you need to do to put a tingle stock on the pistol after tax stamp? just pop the pin out? whats the pin size?
Parson Wilkerson
It’s a 5.5 mm pin. Several sellers have the factory triangle stock for sale. You can also buy AR15 brace adapters made in Russia that will still fully fold flat with the side of the receiver. They also fit the Saiga 9, which is what they are made for in Russia. I just ordered one from IvanTactical, it will probably take another month to show up in the mail.
Hehe man I'm rooting for you to get SVD you definitely need one for your channel and you can you can put it into your taxes as it's necessary for your job (hope I wrote this right) so one SVD tax free and loads of fun for me hehe we need one
Rain man + Roy Orbison = Mishaco
When are they releasing their 7.62 rifles?
Currently working on the KR-103. We'll announce it when it is ready.
@@KalashnikovUSATV Oh nice to see you here. Looking forward to your future offerings. Ahem, please bring us an AK-12 clone :) smuggling kits from Russia is nearly impossible.
17:55 u should of started the video with this clip 🤘🏻
ak stuff has a good price on magazines
Will magpul AK hand guards fit on this rifle
I believe you need kr9/kp9 hand guard because it’s a smaller receiver on the 9mm aks
I should add, the receiver is shorter on some of the ak 9mms. But K USA sells the hand guards as different parts. You can email them.
any cracks on the receiver dust cover or bolt carrier guides?
We're both at around 500 rounds on one, 1k on the other, no cracks yet. - Jay
Thats great news! sounds like they are good to go!
@@MishacoOBA Two years on, how are they holding up?
Mishaco please tell me .. do the parts have proof marks on them? i.e. my Tula 86 krink parts kit has all the proof marks to tell me its original .. can you check if its got proof marks on the trunnions? carrier and rest of the parts recoil spring .. please let me know I want to know badly !
woot
Are they working on 5.45 guns?
Not that they've mentioned at this time....12g and 9mm are out, 7.62x39 seems to be next.
Who has the kp 9 in stock?
So, I guess the real question is; why this over the AKs74u?
Because you can actually find cheap 9mm ammo in the US lol
signs I suppose so, but I buy 5.45 in the 1000 round crates for roughly $230 shipped. Slightly more than some 7.62x39 and steel case .223, but the 5.45 for just a little more gives you allot more punch and wound potential. Not that it matters a whole lot in close quarters, getting shot sucks.
@@Genevasuggestions1 Part of the issue is that there aren't a whole lot of countries left making 5.45 so it is going to get more expensive over time. I think only Bulgaria and Romania make it in any significant quantities and they've been selling it all to Ukraine and Syria
signs yeah, God willing the ammo doesn’t dry up. By the looks of it not many ak74s are being used in Syria as AKMs are much more prevalent. I can see Ukraine being a big buyer of it.
No bolt hold open device?
Nope, the Vityaz doesn't ahve one.
what do you mean a saiga-9 wannabe? it is a saiga-9 made in the US that's branded as a Kalashnikov-USA KR9.
Mishaco,kr9,500rd,in Pakistan quetta wear your company dealer
I like when Roy Orbison does gun reviews
Hahaha that's a very good joke and no one has ever posted it before, let alone at least once a week every week for 5 years. Mention Jose Feliciano next so I'll finally have just enough motivation to walk into traffic. Thx. - Jay
Im seeing the KP9 pistol has a CAST barrel, CAST trunion, and 3/4 of a mm receiver. Can you confirm???
There is no way the barrel is cast. I don’t see casting marks on my trunnion and the receiver appears to be of typical thickness.
nice toy
20:43
you know this video is old because you could buy hand gun ammo at wal mart still :'(
magazines are too expensive
stupidest combo of front and rear sights :) they expect everyone to add an optic.
Sorry, not following you? The sights are pretty AK standard. That said in this day and time, yes most users put an optic on their guns. Many guns don't even ship with iron sights these days.
Wish they'd do a 10mm or .40 all these companies doing 9mm only are losing huge money 💰 9mm dont interest me at all sold all mine and stick with my vepr fm47-11 and G22 RTF with grip cut down to G23 size perfect carry weapon . I do have a CZ 82 tho best 9 makorov I e ever shot .
Honestly no, 9mm sells much better than .40. 10mm is neat, but most people would rather talk about it than pay to shoot it much.
Too much $$$ for what it is
Cool, why?
What does it do that the PSA doesn't, pretty much nothing. This is just an overpriced 9mm carbine.
yeah go ahead and watch MAC try to shoot PSA's version and then try to repeat that....
Samuel Andrews the only thing I liked about the PSA was it took scorpion mags
@@Scott079 I was convinced that the K-USA took Skorpion mags too. Maybe I read an article wrong or something.
@@echodelta2172 I watched it but honestly we haven't seen this shoot yet sooooo... also I love the username, is it an Erectile Dysfunction joke because in highschool we used to scream "ED" at our track coach 😂
Samuel Andrews maybe Misha can test that out for us, they do look similar but dimensionally who knows
awesome guy very educated very knowledgeable