I hankered after the b7 rs4 as it was the only Audi of its time to do the 60:40 split torsen differential to make the handling characteristics more rearward led, unlike the haldex systems Audi offered in the golf sized cars such as the a3/s3/tts/ttrs. Unfortunately back in 07 when they cam out i was driving an evo and couldnt afford a rs4. I think theyre a classy, well made car which is understated. I was hankering after a v8 and with the launch of the c63 in 2008 i was drooling over that untill i could eventually afford one back in 2012. I have to say ther Merc is a lot more lairy, has more torque, and is a bit more of a muscle car than the rs4. It suits me perfectly and i can forgive its 18 mpg avg when i hear the v8 warbling down the road and the speedo climbing up well past one hundred and beyond with ease. 520 brake and 480 ft lb of torque seems enough but i'm now used to the speed and am thinking of going down the supercharger route. I think it will be a car to keep till i die and will get something else as a DD=. I would still love a drive in a rs4, hopefully i get the honour to do so, it would be an interesting comparison to the high revving c63.. Enjoy!
One of the best looking and sounding cars of all time. Absolute bucket list item for every Audi enthusiast. But you really need an aftermarket exhaust, it's crazy not to get one.
Hey dagnut, thanks for commenting. Feedback appreciated, this was a 2017 film when my productions skills were a bit clunky. Things have improved with my later vids although you may still dislike some of the music!
Thanks VERY much for this video- I'm rather unfamiliar with RS models and, have an opportunity to pick up a saloon for 20k. My issue was I had ZERO clue what RS specific items to check- now I know. Query: What sort of maintenance history should I look for in a 2007 model with 95k on it? Timing belts or chains on the 4.2L RS engine? Excellent video for we RS noobs! Cheers!
Thank you for this video, I've been following one RS4 for about a year now, and its been on sale since. I guess noone has the funds to maintain such a beast. When it comes to fuel and registration, it's something you can only dream about here where I live.
It's not so much that nobody can afford it. It's more that most people want turbo cars that are easy to maintain and have the latest gadgets. The RS4 is for us true enthusiasts!
You clearly know your cars, I thought that was a good comparison when you made reference to the mk2 16 valver - which is all about performance at the higher rev range in comparison to the 8 valve.
I seem to recall the 8v always feeling really torquey and the valver was a revvier beast. Another car i hankered after, a big bumper oak green 16v with the rare option of a/c. I think in fact the ultimate VW of that era for me was the Corrado - possibly vws finest coupe, in that blackberry colour and that stonking 2.9 offset il6. They are a 5 star car in evo's 'data' in the back of the mag..
Great video! very useful tips- looking forward to more videos in the future. On a side note I don't know if it was just me but i found it pretty hard to hear the difference in the exhaust note when it was in sports mode lol
Glad you enjoyed the video Asim. The difference between Sport and not Sport is subtle, it's a bit like listening to your favorite song and turning the bass up but leaving the volume as it is. Thanks for the comment!
Thank you thank you for the in depth video. Couple of things I think should have been covered. 1.) I would have liked that you open the fuel cap so that we can see what fuel must be put in the car. 2.) Also the issue of the spare wheel because this car doesn't come with one. What is the best way to come around this problem? Because driving it without a spare wheel is quite risky. Waiting for your response thanks.
Be sure when purchasing tires you get "run flats" they have a thicker sidewall that will allow you to drive a certain number of miles at a certain speed. Down side is these tires can be upwards of 400 a tire
I own a B6 1.8T Avant, unfortunately, Audi never made the RS4 in the B6 only B5 & B7 and to purchase one of these even now there fetching big money 15K plus and that’s for a half decent one! The one you have will be worth a mint as it’s in mint condition, great review there. Subscribed 👍🏻
Hi do you think this car is worth buying as an investment, I.e enjoying it for 3- 4 years then selling it on for a bit more than bought for? And also is it worth getting the Cabriolet it will mainly be a weekend or 3 day a week car
One of the nicest driving ones I've sold had done over 100k miles so I wouldn't rule it out but condition and history are still very important. B5 models are still worth good money over 100k miles so it wont be a problem to sell on as they get older.
One of the best cars I’ve ever owned the b7 sprint blue avant unfortunately I’ve sold mine a while ago as there was the wrong attention on it. Nearly got nicked
Thank you for excellent info I'm looking for one in Europe. Im based in France. One in Germany is described as having had the intake manifold cleaned as far as i glean. Do you have any input about why that is needed? Carboned up by an egr?
It's carboned up as the direct injection doesn't clean the inlet track like an indirect injection system. On newer direct injection systems, direct and indirect injectors are used to alleviate this. Not all cars suffer so I wouldn't worry too much.
Really good advice for anyone thinking about buying one of these. I had a B7 RS4 for 4 years and loved it. One thing to ask a seller that was not covered in this video is "what is the oil consumption of this car like?" Many B7 RS4's drink a lot of oil - like 1ltr per 1000 miles - some don't drink any at all and go from service to service with levels intact. Also watch out for remapped versions as this might invalidate your insurance if you are not aware of it having been done (its sooo worth it though ;). Finally, clutch judder when cold can be a thing in higher mileage examples - bank on a couple of grand to replace. Otherwise, they are an AWESOME car. Traded mine in for the B8 version which is good but lacks some thing this version has in spades - personality.
Im driving mine for 3 years now and own a whatsappgroup of 25 members, most of us stopped with the oil consumption from changing 5W-30 LL which was normally inside to 5W50 Mobil1. Milltek is rusting after a few years but the still replace it with a brand new one if you send it in.
Fair point but anything German the likes to rev drinks oil... It's like a some point in the chase for power they just decided to ignore tolerances within the oil change...
In my 2009 c63 amg the side bolsters are broken on both seats. They will not go in or out. I am pretty sure that the wire has been shorted due to the box being below the seat and the way it moves back and fourth there must be an issue. Ive already checked the fuses no such luck. Any thoughts?
I know what you mean and no they don't. I like the S4 but that rattle is just terrible. Must be a fix but never looked into, just went and bought an RS4!
Thanks , that's a good enough excuse for to ditch my S4 and upgrade , had minor rattle on my s4 , only has 60k on the clock , now lost oil pressure and multiple misfires , thinking tensioner has gone and chain slipped. Rather buy a RS4 than throw money at S4
@@2nsane2005 the b7 rs4 and all R8's with the 4.2 dont have any of the chain related problems because they have the metal chain guides instead of the plastic ones. Easiest way to identify is the 4.2 with an output of 340hp will have to chain issues unless its been fixed before. The 420hp cars from factory will not have the issue.
Best tip don't buy one🤔 good car but very expensive to fix. There old now and will need work. Not that fast for the money. Better cars out there for the money. I would not buy another one😉
Duly noted - this is an old video and we've since improved our production qualities based on feedback. You can always fast forward through as there is some good info in there which we don't charge people for but could save them a lot of money. Thanks.
volkswizard is that mpg even possible with this car? How did you cope with it especially considering it doesn't come with a spare wheel? Based on this video you made me realise that I have to thoroughly inspect it before purchasing. Thanks
It rarely saw below 20 mpg but rarely over 25 mpg. It was slightly worse than my 2.7 V6 B5 RS4. I drive a lot of cars without spare wheels, just keep a regular eye on tyre pressures (the TPMS system helps but make sure previous owners haven't deactivated it) and make sure you have breakdown cover!
@@mikessmith5177 Thats not really true is it, the engine is iconic. Sure the build quality isnt the same its a cheap way into v8 motoring but theyre not bags of shit ls3 engines are tunable and sound like a proper v8. Audi has a better finish and build quality but if you want and cant afford the audi the american engined vxr is a contendor imo.
Why did you completely ruin this potentially very informative video with really horribel sound quality? Wind noises, humming sounds, hardly understandable what you say. What a pitty! Retake the sound with a proper microphone in a quiet room afterwards and improve the video please. And listen to what you have made before uploading it to UA-cam helps too. Love the car though! Would love to know what you have to tell about it.
Thanks for your comment. I've made progress with audio in newer videos, I am constantly learning but can only put so much time/effort/funds into videos. I think this one still gets the message over clearly enough but I am sorry you don't agree.
Hey, really helpful video. I'm very recently into wanting these cars and I don't know a ton about them, so this was a nice "catch me up to speed" video. I hear Walnut blasting is needed to clear away the carbon buildup internally? Does this carbon buildup occur when 93 octane is used?
I hankered after the b7 rs4 as it was the only Audi of its time to do the 60:40 split torsen differential to make the handling characteristics more rearward led, unlike the haldex systems Audi offered in the golf sized cars such as the a3/s3/tts/ttrs. Unfortunately back in 07 when they cam out i was driving an evo and couldnt afford a rs4. I think theyre a classy, well made car which is understated. I was hankering after a v8 and with the launch of the c63 in 2008 i was drooling over that untill i could eventually afford one back in 2012. I have to say ther Merc is a lot more lairy, has more torque, and is a bit more of a muscle car than the rs4. It suits me perfectly and i can forgive its 18 mpg avg when i hear the v8 warbling down the road and the speedo climbing up well past one hundred and beyond with ease. 520 brake and 480 ft lb of torque seems enough but i'm now used to the speed and am thinking of going down the supercharger route. I think it will be a car to keep till i die and will get something else as a DD=. I would still love a drive in a rs4, hopefully i get the honour to do so, it would be an interesting comparison to the high revving c63.. Enjoy!
One of the best looking and sounding cars of all time. Absolute bucket list item for every Audi enthusiast. But you really need an aftermarket exhaust, it's crazy not to get one.
I really, really want one.
Woeful fuckin music and way too loud.. Who do you think you're audience are? Then you come on In whisper.. Good content but sort the audio
Hey dagnut, thanks for commenting. Feedback appreciated, this was a 2017 film when my productions skills were a bit clunky. Things have improved with my later vids although you may still dislike some of the music!
Hi there,
Thank you very much for your video.
I shall be buying an RS4 B7, with your help and detailed video, I shall be prepared.
Thank you again.
I bought one few days ago 07 with 48k miles. This video did help a ton !! Thanks
DDT that's great to hear, that was one of my early videos with iffy production values but I'm pleased the actual content was of use.
@@volkswizard do you still own the RS4 ?
Great video, I’ve hankered after one of these for years and shall refer to this video when I do buy one!
Thanks VERY much for this video- I'm rather unfamiliar with RS models and, have an opportunity to pick up a saloon for 20k. My issue was I had ZERO clue what RS specific items to check- now I know.
Query: What sort of maintenance history should I look for in a 2007 model with 95k on it? Timing belts or chains on the 4.2L RS engine?
Excellent video for we RS noobs! Cheers!
Did you ever get an answer to your question? I'm in the market for a B7 RS4
Ok, well this was very informative video about these very nice cars..!
Im thinking buying one, very soon, thanks for all the infos..!
👍
A pleasure, I'm very glad you enjoyed it. Great cars so buy a good one and you will be very happy!
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Nice car, 420 horsepowers V8!
It is great, but it would be absolutely perfect if you made text version of the tips. For non-britain like me ))
excellent review; definitely pointed out all the aspects that I have come across with on the RS4.
Thank you for this video, I've been following one RS4 for about a year now, and its been on sale since. I guess noone has the funds to maintain such a beast. When it comes to fuel and registration, it's something you can only dream about here where I live.
It's not so much that nobody can afford it. It's more that most people want turbo cars that are easy to maintain and have the latest gadgets. The RS4 is for us true enthusiasts!
Really enjoyed watching your video. Great review
Top vid I've got a rs4 where did you say they can fix suspension mine has just failed on a lecking rear strut audi are wanting 50to fix the problem
Try MRC Tuning in Banbury or Unit 20 in Cheshire
these are great but im more inclined towards the lexus isf due to its reliability
Cheers
Very handy video. Thank you Mr.VolksWizard!
You clearly know your cars, I thought that was a good comparison when you made reference to the mk2 16 valver - which is all about performance at the higher rev range in comparison to the 8 valve.
Thanks wizkid01 - yes I've enjoyed nailing many Mk2 Golf GTI 16vs and B7 RS4s in my many years on the planet, very different cars but both iconic :)
V8’ s are meant to be revved!
I seem to recall the 8v always feeling really torquey and the valver was a revvier beast. Another car i hankered after, a big bumper oak green 16v with the rare option of a/c. I think in fact the ultimate VW of that era for me was the Corrado - possibly vws finest coupe, in that blackberry colour and that stonking 2.9 offset il6. They are a 5 star car in evo's 'data' in the back of the mag..
I really enjoy watching your films.
Great video! very useful tips- looking forward to more videos in the future. On a side note I don't know if it was just me but i found it pretty hard to hear the difference in the exhaust note when it was in sports mode lol
Glad you enjoyed the video Asim. The difference between Sport and not Sport is subtle, it's a bit like listening to your favorite song and turning the bass up but leaving the volume as it is. Thanks for the comment!
Awesome video Andy, I used to use you guys for servicing my b7 sprint blue saloon RS4. You guys were awesome!
Thanks Thrasher - those were the days but now I get time to do shonky videos like this one!
Thank you thank you for the in depth video. Couple of things I think should have been covered. 1.) I would have liked that you open the fuel cap so that we can see what fuel must be put in the car. 2.) Also the issue of the spare wheel because this car doesn't come with one.
What is the best way to come around this problem? Because driving it without a spare wheel is quite risky. Waiting for your response thanks.
Be sure when purchasing tires you get "run flats" they have a thicker sidewall that will allow you to drive a certain number of miles at a certain speed. Down side is these tires can be upwards of 400 a tire
I own a B6 1.8T Avant, unfortunately, Audi never made the RS4 in the B6 only B5 & B7 and to purchase one of these even now there fetching big money 15K plus and that’s for a half decent one! The one you have will be worth a mint as it’s in mint condition, great review there.
Subscribed 👍🏻
Looks amazing sounds amazing goes amazing
Hi do you think this car is worth buying as an investment, I.e enjoying it for 3- 4 years then selling it on for a bit more than bought for? And also is it worth getting the Cabriolet it will mainly be a weekend or 3 day a week car
Beautiful example! The only hang up i'd have is the corroded fasteners in the engine bay, replace them!!!
hey volkswizard! what do you think of buying a 100k miles+ 1 of these. too risky or?
One of the nicest driving ones I've sold had done over 100k miles so I wouldn't rule it out but condition and history are still very important. B5 models are still worth good money over 100k miles so it wont be a problem to sell on as they get older.
Hard to hear your soft voice over the mic wind noise. Interesting car, of course - the sedan is just a peach.
One of the best cars I’ve ever owned the b7 sprint blue avant unfortunately I’ve sold mine a while ago as there was the wrong attention on it. Nearly got nicked
Thank you for excellent info
I'm looking for one in Europe. Im based in France. One in Germany is described as having had the intake manifold cleaned as far as i glean. Do you have any input about why that is needed? Carboned up by an egr?
It's carboned up as the direct injection doesn't clean the inlet track like an indirect injection system. On newer direct injection systems, direct and indirect injectors are used to alleviate this. Not all cars suffer so I wouldn't worry too much.
volkswizard thx for your reply. This may be a harder question. Do you know anyone tuning RS4s for E85? A cheaper and better fuel.
Try MRC Tuning in Banbury UK, they can do anything and Minhea the owner has connections in Belgium who might be able to help
www.mrctuning.com
volkswizard superb. Thank you.
one day ............
Really good advice for anyone thinking about buying one of these. I had a B7 RS4 for 4 years and loved it. One thing to ask a seller that was not covered in this video is "what is the oil consumption of this car like?" Many B7 RS4's drink a lot of oil - like 1ltr per 1000 miles - some don't drink any at all and go from service to service with levels intact. Also watch out for remapped versions as this might invalidate your insurance if you are not aware of it having been done (its sooo worth it though ;). Finally, clutch judder when cold can be a thing in higher mileage examples - bank on a couple of grand to replace. Otherwise, they are an AWESOME car. Traded mine in for the B8 version which is good but lacks some thing this version has in spades - personality.
Have to agree re B8
Im driving mine for 3 years now and own a whatsappgroup of 25 members, most of us stopped with the oil consumption from changing 5W-30 LL which was normally inside to 5W50 Mobil1. Milltek is rusting after a few years but the still replace it with a brand new one if you send it in.
tibold111 hi I would be interested in joining the WhatsApp group. Just picked up a B7
Fair point but anything German the likes to rev drinks oil... It's like a some point in the chase for power they just decided to ignore tolerances within the oil change...
In my 2009 c63 amg the side bolsters are broken on both seats. They will not go in or out. I am pretty sure that the wire has been shorted due to the box being below the seat and the way it moves back and fourth there must be an issue. Ive already checked the fuses no such luck. Any thoughts?
On the RS4 the bolsters fail due to to the air leaking from the bit that expands, rather than an electrical fault. Hope this helps.
Do these engines suffer from the dreaded timing chain rattle that the B6/7 S4 had ?
I know what you mean and no they don't. I like the S4 but that rattle is just terrible. Must be a fix but never looked into, just went and bought an RS4!
Thanks , that's a good enough excuse for to ditch my S4 and upgrade , had minor rattle on my s4 , only has 60k on the clock , now lost oil pressure and multiple misfires , thinking tensioner has gone and chain slipped. Rather buy a RS4 than throw money at S4
@@volkswizard How wouldn't they suffer chain rattle?! still a 4.2 v8
@@2nsane2005 the b7 rs4 and all R8's with the 4.2 dont have any of the chain related problems because they have the metal chain guides instead of the plastic ones. Easiest way to identify is the 4.2 with an output of 340hp will have to chain issues unless its been fixed before. The 420hp cars from factory will not have the issue.
What colour is this car? is it gara blue or ara blue
No problem, it's Nogaro blue pearl effect
That's great thank you very much, I just painted my b6 nogaro blue because I seen this video, the colour is outstanding, Thanks again great video
Best tip don't buy one🤔 good car but very expensive to fix. There old now and will need work. Not that fast for the money. Better cars out there for the money. I would not buy another one😉
Music made me switch off after 10 second
Duly noted - this is an old video and we've since improved our production qualities based on feedback. You can always fast forward through as there is some good info in there which we don't charge people for but could save them a lot of money. Thanks.
Grow up!
Your loss
Love this generation RS4. Mine is a S4 B7 - wanted an automatic. Would have gotten the RS4 if it had an automatic.
What are the real world mpg figures in your opinion?
I lived with a B7 RS4 for a year back in 2010 and it was doing around 20-25 mpg
volkswizard is that mpg even possible with this car? How did you cope with it especially considering it doesn't come with a spare wheel?
Based on this video you made me realise that I have to thoroughly inspect it before purchasing. Thanks
It rarely saw below 20 mpg but rarely over 25 mpg.
It was slightly worse than my 2.7 V6 B5 RS4.
I drive a lot of cars without spare wheels, just keep a regular eye on tyre pressures (the TPMS system helps but make sure previous owners haven't deactivated it) and make sure you have breakdown cover!
tshepo084 if you live in London expect 18...
Boreing. Buy a vxr8 instead. Proper v8.💪
Absolute bag of shite, no comparison
@@mikessmith5177 Thats not really true is it, the engine is iconic. Sure the build quality isnt the same its a cheap way into v8 motoring but theyre not bags of shit ls3 engines are tunable and sound like a proper v8. Audi has a better finish and build quality but if you want and cant afford the audi the american engined vxr is a contendor imo.
A vxr8 is a grandads car😊
You spelling is atrocious
Why did you completely ruin this potentially very informative video with really horribel sound quality? Wind noises, humming sounds, hardly understandable what you say. What a pitty!
Retake the sound with a proper microphone in a quiet room afterwards and improve the video please. And listen to what you have made before uploading it to UA-cam helps too. Love the car though! Would love to know what you have to tell about it.
Thanks for your comment. I've made progress with audio in newer videos, I am constantly learning but can only put so much time/effort/funds into videos. I think this one still gets the message over clearly enough but I am sorry you don't agree.
Hey, really helpful video. I'm very recently into wanting these cars and I don't know a ton about them, so this was a nice "catch me up to speed" video. I hear Walnut blasting is needed to clear away the carbon buildup internally? Does this carbon buildup occur when 93 octane is used?