Glad you're back, I'm gonna defend the 31st century changes, uniform, nacelles, insta beam etc it's the most exciting Trek change since TNG premiered. They've failed to really capitalise on these changes on terms of story but visually I like them all. S5 of Disco feels like they've watched SNW & Pic and learned from those shows vibes, this is already feeling like a confident year of Trek. Hope you keep reacting. =A=
if one more Discovery character lectures another on the importance of feelings I'm going to lose my mind. It is a military vessel for crying out loud, act like it.
I wish some 'Trekkies' like yourself would pay attention to Trek as you would know that Starfleet isn't a military organization. Picard in TNG S2 Peak Performance 'Starfleet is not a military organization, its purpose is exploration' so if Picard himself says it isn't military than it ain't.
@@Chris22IE Do they have a military rank system or not? In no workplace, let alone a workplace with military rank is it acceptable to be having an emotional crisis in every room and around every corner. You'd be found unfit for duty. I'm sorry you think that is acceptable. The reason Discovery does this, the writers explained, is because they come from a drama and rom-com background and this is what they know. Therefore the show runners should have hired writers from a sci-fi background. Because... d'uh!
On Discovery, let's be very clear here, like TNG Discovery is the one Trek show that has had very heavy behind the scenes issues that heavily impacted the writers room. In both of those shows it was there seasons 1 and 2. So seasons 1 and 2 did absolutely have jarring changes in how the show was written. No question. And with the changes being immediate and not planned out, its different then normal typical off season writers room changes, and allowing teams time to develop stories with new writers. Season 3 -4 have had a little more stability for writing and character work. Of course that still doesn't mean script problems go away. Some persist to this day, some are still there but are better managed. And with Trek and serialized story telling, pacing continues to bring down seasons. Even back in Berman era Trek with DS9 take back the station 6 episode arc, and the 10 ending the Dominion war, as well as Enterprise Xindi arc, Trek has not done serialized story telling and managed to keep solid pacing through an arc. On Streaming Trek's side, Picard season 3 is the best handling of pacing, but it also has weakness in it. Pacing and sticking the landing are not Trek's strong suit. Look at even Trek back when it was doing two part episodes, almost all of them suffer from having weaker resolution then the first part (Chain of Command in my opinion is the only two parter that has a stronger conclusion then beginning, All Good Things for me is a wash, being fairly solid consistently. But when you lack standalone episodes, a weak or just weaker conclusion can have a serious impact on how you view the full season. The show has never been terrible to me, but it's never been great for me. Its been a mixed bag from the get go.
I think Star Trek struggles with serialized storytelling mostly because the very idea of it goes against what Star Trek originally was. New planet, new problem every week. That being said, it has worked before. I find it's most successful when they do two or three part episodes. Season-long arcs are tricky. I do love Enterprise S3 though.
@@chattery Aside from all of that, regardless of format, new Trek doesn't leave viewers mulling over an ethical issue, pondering some new insight or reassessing their beliefs. Instead it just throws you some action, preachy ideology and then it's over. Visiting new alien worlds each week used to be about using it as a lens to debate some issue or a mirror to examine ourselves. That doesn't really exist in Trek today, not even in SNW which is like an Ali Express knock-off of Star Trek.
Thanks for tasting it first. You're our poison taste tester now! I'm like you, dropped out a few eps into s3. I don't hate ST-D. But I sadly didn't find myself enjoying it. I liked it alot at first, up until Burnham committed mutiny. So there's that. Loved Yeoh as captain. Later Pike was a big boost. I'm also not a fan of a ton of fireworks aimed at my eyes. I prefer story over flash flash flash. But I'll follow your lead and give it a try. Thanks again!
Yeah, I wasn't a fan of seasons 1 and 2 and dropped out. I still haven't watched seasons 3 or 4, but I have checked outed 3 of the 4 last episodes of season 5 and found them ok. I'm not loving the show, but found it vastly improved from the previous seasons I watched. Now I'm not a "New" Trek hater LOVED Season 3 of Picard, I love Strange New Worlds, love Prodigy, and I find Lower Decks very funny and entertaining. I also quite like the Kelvin films with Beyond being in my top 5 of Trek films.
It’s great to have you back! Rayner is quite the standout character, isn’t he? I’m really looking forward to seeing how his story unfolds. If you appreciate Captain Shaw’s qualities, Rayner is likely to be right up your alley. Season 5 has been a delight so far, with each episode surpassing the previous one. True, the ending of Season 3 was a bit of a letdown after such a strong start, and while Season 4 improved upon that, it was the finale that truly shine, imo. You don’t need to worry about catching up on past seasons; the recaps are more than sufficient. I’ve just watched episode 4, and it was fantastic. Hoping the rest of the season maintains this high standard!
I didn't even put that together, but Rayner definitely gives off Shaw vibes. Loved that character and no doubt Rayner will become a new favorite of mine.
I'm glad you gave this another chance. Discovery has definitely struggled to find its rhythm, and it can absolutely deserve its criticism, but I feel like these characters have evolved into the forms that make them finally fit in to the model of star fleet and the federation we can recognize. But also importantly and too its credit, it maintains a unique perspective and personality that give it a more personable approach, that definitely reduces the militaristic impersonal nature that modern trek has cultivated. Love TNG, but it settled into a officer and military approach that was a stark contrast to TOS Friendship and jovial comradery. StNW and Pike was beloved for that opposite nature he embodied, which showed that interest to allow for a more casual touch to leadership. I think demonstrates more of our current values today in terms of being more emotionally mature in leadership and empathetic to each other. Most importantly, Michael through her 4 seasons has finally learned her lessons and become who she always had the potential of being, who Georgiou thought she could be before her mutiny. I feel like the new Captain we were introduced to is meant to represent a mirror or reflection of OIder Burnhams rash and anxious disconnected personality; so she can mentor him. He is abrupt and aloof and disconnected from his crew, his urgency in crisis makes him take big risks, and in this episode we saw that had consequences that could have harmed others. I'm very excited to see what you think of this season, and I would actually encourage you to go and watch season 4 as well. Season 3 was hit or miss sometimes, but Season 4 I feel is where Discovery learned how to shine.
This is actually the first season I’m not watching … I hung on for season four and regretted it, so I wasn’t a glutton for punishment. I may watch this whole season whenever section 31 drops
Tech issues. She is still in the warp bubble. Remember we rarely see it get visually represented in Trek. But it's not presented as tight around the hull. The Best Berman Era representation of the Warp bubble is when the Enterprise and Columbia connect at warp to transfer between both ships at warp five. Where we see Trip going between the two ships. You mention the strength of her mag boots. But in Enterprise we see Trip completely free from the effects of high speed travel. He just manual moves from his own strength on a cable between the two ships in a vacuum environment. The Mag boots are just to help keep her upright. When she releases them she moves slightly away from the ship (like in a vacuum, but she is still in that ships warp bubble. On Discovery to show the size (like Star Trek Beyond) the bubble is shown in the round warping effect as the ship is traveling at warp speed. When the ship drops from warp to whatever sunlight speed its at is when we see Burnham actually have some real speed. You state Discovery is not a scifi action film. In fact yes it actually is. That from the get go (per producers and the various directors) is pitched visually as a being a weekly sci-fi action film. They have attempted (not always successfully) to have each of the various Kurtzmen produced Treks to have their own unique visual style. And this one is absolutely the sci-fi action film. What I like to call the Bruckheimer style. Even some of the emotional scenes are delivered in the heighten style that is used in some action spectaculars. Now personally I am not the biggest fan of that style. But it is the actual intent of production even back to its pilot to be a look and pacing of the show. When TNG came out, its supposed to be roughly a hundred years more advanced then TOS films, we actually don't really see that advancement (the Holodeck is really about it). Ships are faster (but thats not something we can visually see) phasers and photons look pretty much the same (torpedoes can now branch out in groups, but that was really the primary difference). But basically the technology was still exceedingly similar. We actually see far more visual advancement from The Cage and first season TOS than we ever saw from TOS films to TNG. Now since we see it from our eyes of the late 20th century. Does TNG feel like it has the amount of change that people who have lived a 100 years saw in their life? Probably not even close. So 1987 to 1887. The telegraph to Early cell phones? The first plane to the space shuttle or Saturn Rockets? Pretty much the answer is clearly not even remotely close. Now with this it's over 900 years they traveled. And for us today that would be from 2019 to 1119 to showcase the difference. Now they did have some regression and some slowdown in growth specifically in means of transportation thanks to the burn (and of course with any technology if shipping of parts and personal are disrupted, technology from the start of the Burn isn't going to advance at the same rate, that growth will natural slow down. But how do you visually show that amount of imaginable tech advances? And have it mean anything to the audience. The detached engines (visually not a big fan), But it certainly helps show what would look like Magic (which is what it should look like). The programmable matter. How they can conjure technology in a moments needs to create weapons, to change weapons, to space gear, ect. And of course the one we already saw going back to ENT when the find a ship not far removed from this time. Where the ships external size doesn't match its interior space. Thats has also been used. And like the transporter the speed difference and the casual use from even day to day movement. All those things show an advance in technology, and the change society has adopted in using those technologies, better than most technology that we have seen in Trek. So even if I visually don't like some things, in universe it really helps sell the time frame. Seriously my biggest issue with the visual elements change is that ships look so bland. We don't see real detail that we are trained over the last nearly 60 years to see that this means thats a transporter emitter, thats the deflector array, thats an escape pod, thats a weapons port, thats a docking port, thats a shuttle bay. Outside of knowing where the engines are, I have no idea where anything is on the external appearance of Starfleet ships, and I freely admit that annoys me. It actually does make sense to plant the ships both in the ground. Because it adds a level more than just trying to use thrusters to counter the kinetic impact. Shields might protect the ships, and larger barrier for things behind the ship, but we have no idea if that would keep the ship from slamming into the village. Ship safe within its shield but being propelled as a structure into the village. Now of course you have thrusters. But the an avalanche is going to have a fairly variable amount of mass causing the kinetic impact. Having the ship planted into the planet would also provide an additional level of structural support helping to absorb some of the kinetic energy and keeping the ship more stable while the shields protect the ships and the village. And structural the ships should be fine. As we have seen ships and even shuttles survive far greater amounts of pressure. Voyager's shuttles survives nearly going to the center of a small water world, that amount of pressure would be extreme. We have seen the defiant survive fighting into a gas giants atmosphere. We have seen ships impact asteroids in faster motion then what the ships are traveling here. So I don't thank anything here would be a difficulty. Yes you can go to warp in atmosphere, see Voyage Home. But lets be very clear the idea that warping near a planet is bad is mentioned a few times in Trek, but it is something that is used many, many, many times in Trek (all the way since TOS). In fact thats the norm, not the exception. The exception is that its dangerous to go to warp near a planetary body. In fact the first mention of it being a bad thing is in Motion Picture, and since thats a new drive in that film, perhaps thats a testing of a new technology rule version practical use from a fully tested warp drive.
The one issue is the terrain flat or is it slanted. And is the Ridge/ Mountain tall enough to have a land slide that would travel far enough and at speed to go the distance between the side of the mountain and the village in the distance. That is far less clear.....
So, the gaps...... The burn storyline was resolved (in a rediculous way - a Kelpian got sad on a dilithium planet & sent out a telepathic signal tuned to dilithium that destroyed all active dilithium - the removing the Kelpian from the planet took away the threat, mining the planet restocked the supply) so warp is now possible again, the pathway is replacing the magic mushroom drive, we don't know much about it yet. Book & Burnham's rift is because Book tried to commit a genocide last season in revenge for his people being accidentally wiped out by an all powerful alien species.
This is the second reference to Picard. Season 3 episode Unification Part 3 pulled Picards library and had Spock talking about Romulan Vulcan Unification
I thought it was terrible with a few neat scenes. That's probably how I'd describe all of new Trek. The show is just a big pander and uses old Trek as a crutch. Although I like the idea of exploring the progenitors, it still feels stupid how they went about it. And was that Romulan dude wearing a dress? Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think that was ever part of their wardrobe in TNG for either males or females.
Just like the guys at RLM had to do with Picard S1-2, you should just power through it. I am. I'm not impressed with this final season. Its a rehash of the same old thing they've been doing since season 2.
Glad you're back, I'm gonna defend the 31st century changes, uniform, nacelles, insta beam etc it's the most exciting Trek change since TNG premiered.
They've failed to really capitalise on these changes on terms of story but visually I like them all.
S5 of Disco feels like they've watched SNW & Pic and learned from those shows vibes, this is already feeling like a confident year of Trek. Hope you keep reacting.
=A=
Haha I never left. Just eagerly awaiting new Star Trek. Like I said, wasn't planning on covering Discovery, but I'm glad I started to.
@@chattery prodigy is also a good trek. Feels like a voyager spinoff. I think it's great, imho. But u should judge it yourself!!
if one more Discovery character lectures another on the importance of feelings I'm going to lose my mind. It is a military vessel for crying out loud, act like it.
Haha
I wish some 'Trekkies' like yourself would pay attention to Trek as you would know that Starfleet isn't a military organization. Picard in TNG S2 Peak Performance 'Starfleet is not a military organization, its purpose is exploration' so if Picard himself says it isn't military than it ain't.
@@Chris22IE Do they have a military rank system or not? In no workplace, let alone a workplace with military rank is it acceptable to be having an emotional crisis in every room and around every corner. You'd be found unfit for duty. I'm sorry you think that is acceptable.
The reason Discovery does this, the writers explained, is because they come from a drama and rom-com background and this is what they know. Therefore the show runners should have hired writers from a sci-fi background. Because... d'uh!
On Discovery, let's be very clear here, like TNG Discovery is the one Trek show that has had very heavy behind the scenes issues that heavily impacted the writers room. In both of those shows it was there seasons 1 and 2. So seasons 1 and 2 did absolutely have jarring changes in how the show was written. No question. And with the changes being immediate and not planned out, its different then normal typical off season writers room changes, and allowing teams time to develop stories with new writers.
Season 3 -4 have had a little more stability for writing and character work. Of course that still doesn't mean script problems go away. Some persist to this day, some are still there but are better managed.
And with Trek and serialized story telling, pacing continues to bring down seasons. Even back in Berman era Trek with DS9 take back the station 6 episode arc, and the 10 ending the Dominion war, as well as Enterprise Xindi arc, Trek has not done serialized story telling and managed to keep solid pacing through an arc. On Streaming Trek's side, Picard season 3 is the best handling of pacing, but it also has weakness in it. Pacing and sticking the landing are not Trek's strong suit. Look at even Trek back when it was doing two part episodes, almost all of them suffer from having weaker resolution then the first part (Chain of Command in my opinion is the only two parter that has a stronger conclusion then beginning, All Good Things for me is a wash, being fairly solid consistently. But when you lack standalone episodes, a weak or just weaker conclusion can have a serious impact on how you view the full season.
The show has never been terrible to me, but it's never been great for me. Its been a mixed bag from the get go.
I think Star Trek struggles with serialized storytelling mostly because the very idea of it goes against what Star Trek originally was. New planet, new problem every week. That being said, it has worked before. I find it's most successful when they do two or three part episodes. Season-long arcs are tricky. I do love Enterprise S3 though.
@@chattery Aside from all of that, regardless of format, new Trek doesn't leave viewers mulling over an ethical issue, pondering some new insight or reassessing their beliefs. Instead it just throws you some action, preachy ideology and then it's over. Visiting new alien worlds each week used to be about using it as a lens to debate some issue or a mirror to examine ourselves. That doesn't really exist in Trek today, not even in SNW which is like an Ali Express knock-off of Star Trek.
Thanks for tasting it first. You're our poison taste tester now! I'm like you, dropped out a few eps into s3. I don't hate ST-D. But I sadly didn't find myself enjoying it. I liked it alot at first, up until Burnham committed mutiny. So there's that. Loved Yeoh as captain. Later Pike was a big boost.
I'm also not a fan of a ton of fireworks aimed at my eyes. I prefer story over flash flash flash. But I'll follow your lead and give it a try. Thanks again!
Totally agree with all your points. The poison didn't taste too bad though.
Yeah, I wasn't a fan of seasons 1 and 2 and dropped out. I still haven't watched seasons 3 or 4, but I have checked outed 3 of the 4 last episodes of season 5 and found them ok. I'm not loving the show, but found it vastly improved from the previous seasons I watched.
Now I'm not a "New" Trek hater LOVED Season 3 of Picard, I love Strange New Worlds, love Prodigy, and I find Lower Decks very funny and entertaining. I also quite like the Kelvin films with Beyond being in my top 5 of Trek films.
Seems like we pretty much aligned in our opinions.
It’s great to have you back! Rayner is quite the standout character, isn’t he? I’m really looking forward to seeing how his story unfolds. If you appreciate Captain Shaw’s qualities, Rayner is likely to be right up your alley. Season 5 has been a delight so far, with each episode surpassing the previous one. True, the ending of Season 3 was a bit of a letdown after such a strong start, and while Season 4 improved upon that, it was the finale that truly shine, imo. You don’t need to worry about catching up on past seasons; the recaps are more than sufficient. I’ve just watched episode 4, and it was fantastic. Hoping the rest of the season maintains this high standard!
I didn't even put that together, but Rayner definitely gives off Shaw vibes. Loved that character and no doubt Rayner will become a new favorite of mine.
I'm glad you gave this another chance. Discovery has definitely struggled to find its rhythm, and it can absolutely deserve its criticism, but I feel like these characters have evolved into the forms that make them finally fit in to the model of star fleet and the federation we can recognize. But also importantly and too its credit, it maintains a unique perspective and personality that give it a more personable approach, that definitely reduces the militaristic impersonal nature that modern trek has cultivated. Love TNG, but it settled into a officer and military approach that was a stark contrast to TOS Friendship and jovial comradery. StNW and Pike was beloved for that opposite nature he embodied, which showed that interest to allow for a more casual touch to leadership. I think demonstrates more of our current values today in terms of being more emotionally mature in leadership and empathetic to each other.
Most importantly, Michael through her 4 seasons has finally learned her lessons and become who she always had the potential of being, who Georgiou thought she could be before her mutiny. I feel like the new Captain we were introduced to is meant to represent a mirror or reflection of OIder Burnhams rash and anxious disconnected personality; so she can mentor him. He is abrupt and aloof and disconnected from his crew, his urgency in crisis makes him take big risks, and in this episode we saw that had consequences that could have harmed others.
I'm very excited to see what you think of this season, and I would actually encourage you to go and watch season 4 as well. Season 3 was hit or miss sometimes, but Season 4 I feel is where Discovery learned how to shine.
This is actually the first season I’m not watching … I hung on for season four and regretted it, so I wasn’t a glutton for punishment. I may watch this whole season whenever section 31 drops
Fair. You suffered the brunt from what I hear.
the trick is to fastforward most of it, to validate my own assumption that its a complete write-off! :D
Haha
Tech issues.
She is still in the warp bubble. Remember we rarely see it get visually represented in Trek. But it's not presented as tight around the hull. The Best Berman Era representation of the Warp bubble is when the Enterprise and Columbia connect at warp to transfer between both ships at warp five. Where we see Trip going between the two ships.
You mention the strength of her mag boots. But in Enterprise we see Trip completely free from the effects of high speed travel. He just manual moves from his own strength on a cable between the two ships in a vacuum environment. The Mag boots are just to help keep her upright. When she releases them she moves slightly away from the ship (like in a vacuum, but she is still in that ships warp bubble. On Discovery to show the size (like Star Trek Beyond) the bubble is shown in the round warping effect as the ship is traveling at warp speed. When the ship drops from warp to whatever sunlight speed its at is when we see Burnham actually have some real speed.
You state Discovery is not a scifi action film. In fact yes it actually is. That from the get go (per producers and the various directors) is pitched visually as a being a weekly sci-fi action film. They have attempted (not always successfully) to have each of the various Kurtzmen produced Treks to have their own unique visual style. And this one is absolutely the sci-fi action film. What I like to call the Bruckheimer style. Even some of the emotional scenes are delivered in the heighten style that is used in some action spectaculars. Now personally I am not the biggest fan of that style. But it is the actual intent of production even back to its pilot to be a look and pacing of the show.
When TNG came out, its supposed to be roughly a hundred years more advanced then TOS films, we actually don't really see that advancement (the Holodeck is really about it). Ships are faster (but thats not something we can visually see) phasers and photons look pretty much the same (torpedoes can now branch out in groups, but that was really the primary difference). But basically the technology was still exceedingly similar. We actually see far more visual advancement from The Cage and first season TOS than we ever saw from TOS films to TNG. Now since we see it from our eyes of the late 20th century. Does TNG feel like it has the amount of change that people who have lived a 100 years saw in their life? Probably not even close. So 1987 to 1887. The telegraph to Early cell phones? The first plane to the space shuttle or Saturn Rockets? Pretty much the answer is clearly not even remotely close. Now with this it's over 900 years they traveled. And for us today that would be from 2019 to 1119 to showcase the difference. Now they did have some regression and some slowdown in growth specifically in means of transportation thanks to the burn (and of course with any technology if shipping of parts and personal are disrupted, technology from the start of the Burn isn't going to advance at the same rate, that growth will natural slow down. But how do you visually show that amount of imaginable tech advances? And have it mean anything to the audience. The detached engines (visually not a big fan), But it certainly helps show what would look like Magic (which is what it should look like). The programmable matter. How they can conjure technology in a moments needs to create weapons, to change weapons, to space gear, ect. And of course the one we already saw going back to ENT when the find a ship not far removed from this time. Where the ships external size doesn't match its interior space. Thats has also been used. And like the transporter the speed difference and the casual use from even day to day movement. All those things show an advance in technology, and the change society has adopted in using those technologies, better than most technology that we have seen in Trek. So even if I visually don't like some things, in universe it really helps sell the time frame.
Seriously my biggest issue with the visual elements change is that ships look so bland. We don't see real detail that we are trained over the last nearly 60 years to see that this means thats a transporter emitter, thats the deflector array, thats an escape pod, thats a weapons port, thats a docking port, thats a shuttle bay. Outside of knowing where the engines are, I have no idea where anything is on the external appearance of Starfleet ships, and I freely admit that annoys me.
It actually does make sense to plant the ships both in the ground. Because it adds a level more than just trying to use thrusters to counter the kinetic impact. Shields might protect the ships, and larger barrier for things behind the ship, but we have no idea if that would keep the ship from slamming into the village. Ship safe within its shield but being propelled as a structure into the village. Now of course you have thrusters. But the an avalanche is going to have a fairly variable amount of mass causing the kinetic impact. Having the ship planted into the planet would also provide an additional level of structural support helping to absorb some of the kinetic energy and keeping the ship more stable while the shields protect the ships and the village.
And structural the ships should be fine. As we have seen ships and even shuttles survive far greater amounts of pressure. Voyager's shuttles survives nearly going to the center of a small water world, that amount of pressure would be extreme. We have seen the defiant survive fighting into a gas giants atmosphere. We have seen ships impact asteroids in faster motion then what the ships are traveling here. So I don't thank anything here would be a difficulty.
Yes you can go to warp in atmosphere, see Voyage Home. But lets be very clear the idea that warping near a planet is bad is mentioned a few times in Trek, but it is something that is used many, many, many times in Trek (all the way since TOS). In fact thats the norm, not the exception. The exception is that its dangerous to go to warp near a planetary body. In fact the first mention of it being a bad thing is in Motion Picture, and since thats a new drive in that film, perhaps thats a testing of a new technology rule version practical use from a fully tested warp drive.
The one issue is the terrain flat or is it slanted. And is the Ridge/ Mountain tall enough to have a land slide that would travel far enough and at speed to go the distance between the side of the mountain and the village in the distance. That is far less clear.....
That was all very eloquently put. I was thinking about the Enterprise-Columbia incident whilst editing this. Made me feel like an idiot.
So, the gaps......
The burn storyline was resolved (in a rediculous way - a Kelpian got sad on a dilithium planet & sent out a telepathic signal tuned to dilithium that destroyed all active dilithium - the removing the Kelpian from the planet took away the threat, mining the planet restocked the supply) so warp is now possible again, the pathway is replacing the magic mushroom drive, we don't know much about it yet.
Book & Burnham's rift is because Book tried to commit a genocide last season in revenge for his people being accidentally wiped out by an all powerful alien species.
Christ...it's like the worst fever dream ever.
This is the second reference to Picard. Season 3 episode Unification Part 3 pulled Picards library and had Spock talking about Romulan Vulcan Unification
Just watched a clip of this. Love seeing Nimoy's face in modern Trek.
@chattery while Discovery has hit and miss moments. Unification part 3 was a good episode. As was Terea Ferma 1 and 2 both decent episodes
I thought it was terrible with a few neat scenes. That's probably how I'd describe all of new Trek. The show is just a big pander and uses old Trek as a crutch.
Although I like the idea of exploring the progenitors, it still feels stupid how they went about it. And was that Romulan dude wearing a dress? Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think that was ever part of their wardrobe in TNG for either males or females.
Do you mean the Romulan in the hologram? I think he was wearing clasic TNG Romulan garb.
Just like the guys at RLM had to do with Picard S1-2, you should just power through it. I am. I'm not impressed with this final season. Its a rehash of the same old thing they've been doing since season 2.
Hopefully I come out a little cleaner on the other side than Mike and Rich. Hahaha.
It's still terrible.
😬
Why torture yourself, you're obviously not a fan of Star Trek.
I beg your pardon?