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- A joint statement by NATO's 32 members says that Ukraine is on a quote 'irreversible' path to membership. At the alliance's 75th anniversary summit, they also pledged 40 billion euros of aid to Kyiv next year. But most of that aid is set to come from the bloc's largest member, the US. And with NATO-sceptic Donald Trump challenging President Biden in November's election, there's no assurance of long-term funding.
For more on this, we cross over to Brussels and speak with Ian Lesser. He's a Distinguished Fellow at the German Marshall Fund and his areas of expertise include US foreign policy and NATO.
We also talk to Gustav Gressel, Senior Policy Fellow at the European Council on Foreign Relations, he joins us from Berlin.
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A friend does not make you fight for your life with one hand tied behind your back 😢😢
I agree it's time to remove the restrictions, if it's a military target it should be fair game.
So you are finally realizing that the US isn't actually Ukraine's friend?
@@michaelwilson9921 the USA is Ukraine's friend, but there is an unstable person leading the enemy. I am sure the wait was to confirm that Putin was full of empty threats...regardless I think the military strategy of artillery restrictions is ridiculous because of what is at stake.
They do that when it’s for your own good
@@michaelwilson9921 I'm reporting you for posting misinformation!
A military target is a military target!
What nonsense is it that there are limitations of 100km?!?!
trying to avoid full scale war i guess
продажа металолома в украину не имеет права останавливаться.
@OOyouiweOO they have plenty of scrap metal from all the destroyed Ruskie tanks.
If they were to use, lets say weapons supplied by Poland to attack Russia. Wouldnt Poland become a target for Russia?
Yes, no country wants to become complicit with the war. They have their own country to protect.
@@motorfiendzyeah russia has been losing it only becomes strong when zelesnky is asking for more money lol
There are strategic targets, and there are children's hospitals. Where is the sense of civilian institutions being targeted without hitting back at the sites where the missiles are coming from?
Take the training wheels off
Mate the whole bike has fallen apart lol you don’t really believe this garbage do you lol after all the “wonder weapons’ lol give me a break
Yes😅
Then it turns into a real war, Ukraine doesn’t want that
You think Russia is not restraining itself? Their nkes is just patiently waiting to be used somewhere in Ukraine,
@@shannonbertram5513 How's the Kharkiv offensive going, comrade?
Imagine if the USA had said to Britain in 1940 that they can attack german soldiers in France but not more than 100 kms from the border.
@@Matthew-rp3jf now explain logic
They didnt have nukes. If Germany had nukes Britain would not declare war ok Geemany of course.
Why should Ukranian soldiers hide among civilians? Israel has the right to defend itself even if it means killing 40000 civilians in a small region.
@@sergeybebenin German bombers did not fly from bases in Germany to attack Britain. They flew from occupied land. If the UK had been forced to use US munitions and was fighting with similar 'rules' then things would have been very silly. But we did not have those rules and could attack the German industrial base within Germany.
@@everTriumphyou keep forgetting one thing.. We have nuclear weapons now, and Russia is the biggest nuclear power with the most sophisticated systems. Don't be foolish to think that Russia will not use it if necessary, and NATO knows it.. But apparently they're running out of possibilities and heading towards a disaster.
It should be no limit at all
Wanna volunteer for the frontlines? Go fight let’s see your resolve.
@@amunra5330How's that reliant to what OP said?
They said let Ukraine do what it needs to, to defend itself.
@@amunra5330🤣 ask your own people what happens when they get tricked to Putin's front lines 🤣
That’s the ignorant warmonger response, anyone who thinks like that should go to the frontlines
@@Meeko2689 nah you wish but na
Should have been no constraints!!! You don’t win a war not striking back on enemy territory 😡😡😡
There are lots of things that should not have been, starting with a CIA-backed coup in Ukraine, so called Euromaidan.
Are you ready for war? You signed up? It's dumb I agree but we shouldn't be letting Ukraine strike Russian territory at all! That's how we get into a very bad war. This conflict is not going the way our media is spinning it.
Don't believe the hype about Russia sucking either. Their weapons kill just like ours. Google todays article about how Russia is jamming our equipment being sent into Ukraine. Think about why this wars still going with everything we've sent already. Watch the battlefield updates.... numerous people cover it.
It's not going to be a cake walk like we're being told.
Screw Putin but we really need to negotiate a settlement in Ukraine and make Europe step up their defense.
Tell me how the US won its last war or when that was, lol.
@@Save_UA are you signed up or currently fighting? You ready for Americans to be drafted and sent over? If the answer is no to those then you should be pushing for peace right now. This is going to turn into a very big and horrible fight soon.
go to the frontline if you care so much
Not what if! Ukraine should be allowed to defend!
Defend what in particular?
Money laundering, human trafficking or perhaps Nazism?
with their missiles so far they have defended against civilians on crimean beaches and Donetsk tower blocks, who knows how much damage those civilians could do to the zelensky regime!!!
@@lappo2534 yo big mom
Ah , another imaginary American red line .
Every country need the 'alternative' weapon...
when you have money and tech you dictate where lines are drawn
@@H1labs yet you do nothing when those lines are crossed
@@four4eyes this red line, I've heard of that somewhere before
@@four4eyesthere has been more bombing in Ukraine since
When ignorance is bliss it's foolish to be wise
The guy said….everything is good for now for Ukraine.
The whole war Ukraine fought like they had to bind one of there arms behind there back.
no, they chose to do war, now war they have. war have rules too and too bad for them its not up to the ukrainians.
@@Celts69 Bollocks...
@@Celts69I wish that was true
Why don't you go over there tough guy
@@Celts69if they are… good.
But they aren’t
The decision to use Long Range ATACAMS or indeed Storm Shadow/Scalp missiles lies with the sclerotic Jake Sullivan and Lloyd Austin, but ultimately the Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR), a U.S. four-star general. The current Commander is General Christopher G. Cavoli (Army). Who is delaying the decision.? I don't know, but it's infuriating. 😡
Sullivan and several lobbyists/scholars who have his ear most likely. The latter are advocating the bare minimum assistance to Ukraine because they don't believe the country will win even with everything they require. USA strategy of " phoning it in " is doomed to failure.
Incorrect. The decision on what restrictionas are placed on Storm Shadow rests with the UK, SCALP with France, and US-made weapons ultimately with POTUS. SACEUR is not going to make political decisions like that. Not his remit.
@@andrewlockett4569 Apparently there is one group that has reportedly been tasked by US National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan - the consummate A-student with a stellar resume - to engage in back-channel negotiations with the Kremlin. The trio consists of Richard Haass, Thomas Graham, and Charles Kupchan, all former US government advisors and think-tank denizens who tend toward the “grand bargains forged by great powers” school of political science. This interference and slow-walking of equipment stinks like a bag of prawns in the sun..!!
That should be 300KM...withing this range...the movement of everything large can be early detected and targeted...
@@banagheroldchurch1551 Does Russia want article five to get triggered?
@@banagheroldchurch1551 little difference russia one country eu/nato many countrys. Also russia was the one to invade Ukraine
@@banagheroldchurch1551 Do you just not believe in punctuation or something? Even Putin said he had no problem with Ukraine joining the EU, though I'm not sure why he embargoed them in 2013 when Yanukovich tried to sign the EU association agreement if that was the case.
@@foilhat1138 article five is a joke, most NATO countries will NOT get involved when they know the cost is destruction of their own country
@@banagheroldchurch1551 First, that whole thing in english please. I dont understand a single thing espacially in the second half. Whst trade agreements ?
Also lavrov isn't deciding anything about Ukraine. Ukraine isn't russia it is an independent country with its own government.
DW should remember what happened to Berlin from the poorly trained soviets.
You should remember what happened to the Soviets. They imploded.
Russian bots should remember that Russia was not alone in the allied victory in Europe.
@@larryhyde8003D-Day only served to stop a soviet europe, if there was no D-Day soviets would be at france by 1946.
Ussr was at poland by time of D-Day
Were they not part of the same team until 1941? And then your German ally turned their back on you.
@@Mark-12-31 lol imagine, ukraine supporters keep trying to bring this up its just sad. 2 countries invading another country doesn’t make them allies. USSR had problems with poland due to 1920s war with them, Germans also had problems with poland due to treaty of Versailles. The 2 countries agreed to partition their long time enemy and take their revenge in a coordinated manner. This does not make them allies as much as Russia and USA were allies against ISIS
Ukraine striking deeper into Russia means Russia give Kiev the Gaza treatment 😢
Russia has nothing left, if Ukraine strikes deeper into their territory all they can do is watch and beg North Korea and Iran for more weapons.
They've been trying. Same in Kharkiv. Fortunately for people living there, so far, UKR GBAD have largely prevented that sort of thing.
The term "crocodile tears" refers to an insincere display of emotion, particularly sorrow.
The phrase is used to describe someone who is pretending to be upset or remorseful when they are not genuinely feeling those emotions.
@@jochentram9301no lol they have not, no FOAB campaign and no FAB usage in kiev, you can’t seriously believe a few missiles is them trying to flatten kiev
@@theapple3160 Ypu're asuming Russia is holding back voluntarily, rather than being *incapable* of flying the sort of strike campaign Israel is flying in Gaza. My read of the situation is that Russa *does not have the capablity* to execute that sort of air campaign, given Ukrainian GBAD . . . but if they could, they would.
Then Ukraine will pay dearly not NATO that's unfortunate
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Yeah the Russians might strike cities, power plants, dams, nuclear plants deep inside Ukraine... Wait they already do.
xman - Yeah, NATO should get engaged. Do you even have the cerebral power to imagine the humiliation the Russians would go through? I mean, I haven't yet seen the Russians use digitalized combined-arms-warfare tactics.
xman - Yeah, NATO should get engaged. Do you even have the cerebral power to imagine the humiliation the Russians would go through?
xman - Yeah, NATO should get involved. Just imagine the brutal humiliation the Russians would go through! I mean, I haven't yet seen the Russians use digitalized combined-arms-warfare tactics.
DW talking about poorly trained Russian soldiers? Compared to the super soldiers of Ukraine that are dragged from the streets? How much professional training do those super soldiers get DW? Could you try to explain? What good soldiers are left in Ukraine since the beginning?
The consequences is none other than surely ...
W w _ 3
Russia is screwed then
so are u scared troll?
Fair enough, Russia is allowed to strike 100 Km inside NATO territory
NATO is giving limited support to Ukraine, not striking Russia. Similar to the support russia is getting from North Korea, Iran and China to some degree. Shall we drag all of them into direct conflict as well then?
@@larrysteinke1839 One cannot reason with a person turning a blind eye to the reality they don't want to experience as such. Actually Putin has been doing that long before "his redlines" have supposedly been crossed. Russian regime is nothing but a wolf in sheep's fleece.
That's like saying the US was allowed to strike the Soviet Union and China during the Korean and Vietnam war.
Putin is insane, but not dumb, he dont stand a chance against NATO in a direct warfare
@@mahajanmanik what do you suggest? Back down to every bully, meaning russia?
Soon there will be most of russian assets moved to 150 km from the border. NATO should not restrict the range of donated weapons!
NATO wants to prolong the war, they don't war to end soon
Every country need the 'alternative' weapon...
even with 100km, it will still help Ukraine tremendously. Russia supply depot will need to be further from the frontline
This won’t help
I would guess the cost and time effort to move everything back could justify incremental increases of range.
In many ways these imposed constraints on Ukraine's defensive weapons use seem to be prolonging this conflict.
But has also prevented escalation into Russia-NATO war, not mentioning Putin arming the West's foes with forbidden weapons.
The latter will happen anyway, as Putin and Xi and BRICS push on to actualize a multipolar world.
You believe in this nonsense you wrote don't you?
Biden family is making business with weapons trafficking, this is why they prolong the war avoiding a Russian defeat. Last but not least, Israel is highly influential in US foreign policy, and Israel has strong ties with Russia, as most of the Russian oligarchs have Israeli passports and they are money laundering in Israel the money they steal ; Israel doesn’t follow the sanctions, has vetoed the sending of Israeli weapons to Ukraine by the Baltic countries and sell weapons to Russia. And if Israel doesn’t want a Russian defeat , US hall follow it. Even Netanyahu has publicly bragged about how all the US politicians are his lakeys.
Huh? You actually think that Ukraine would win this war?…..😂😂😂
People have been saying that for years … seems like some of you are finally realizing that
Madness 🤯
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Yes, the way Russian pP is managing this is pure madness.
@@Mark-12-31 NATO madness 🤣🤣
There is nothing Ukraine can do to push Rusdia back. Simple truth, but DW is still not permitted to acknowledge this... wonder why?
have some more vodka comrade.
Why on earth only 100 Kms ????
Because we don't want WWIII just yet
@@econ6610 WWIII has already started, don t be naïf.
@@rafaelsanz3441 are nukes flying yet? last i checked, not yet. would rather not have nukes flying, thank you
@@econ6610 You are russian, I understand you are scared, but when it happens you won't even notice, you'll be gone so quick.
@@econ6610 There is no greater escalation than to tell every dictator in the world that nuclear threats let you take what you want.
I am missing two zeros in the title
100% and soon Ukraine will prevail! rus are afraid of this!
Oh yeaah!
WOŁYŃ PAMIĘTAMY OUN UPA SS galisien
@@PRAWDATOJEST-vd9eq relax rutard
Same
As Russia is an enormously large country going all the way to the Pacific, it would cause some more damage in Russia, but nothing fatal. However, it would certainly make the Russian people even more rally 'round the flag, thereby strengthening Putin's standing and the war effort, and it would trigger even more massive devastating retaliatory strikes on Ukraine, which would make it even more difficult for Ukraine to get through the next winter. In a nutshell, it would be counterproductive.
Russia is restricting it's strikes not because it doesn't want but because it can't for one or other reason.
And btw most of Russia is around Moscow and south of it. Eastern part is mostly empty.
I don't see the point of the 100km limit. Simple restriction to military targets only should be sufficient.
DW deleting comments like crazy lol
It's UA-cam.. But hey at least Russian bots are allowed to roam free
YT
@@SeemoreDunkan
@@SeemoreDunkanso are u Ukrainian bots
Russian bots don't have any trouble with posting comments.
YT dictatorship is the culprit
No one should scream foul when consequences kick in
Regardless of what actions are taken, it will not change the situation for Ukraine; it will only encourage more Russians to join the fight. The only viable path for Ukraine in this war is through negotiation. No amount of weapons or financial support will ever be sufficient to secure a definitive victory for Ukraine. Prolonging the conflict with military aid and resources will only result in further devastation and loss of life without altering the fundamental dynamics of the war. Pursuing diplomatic solutions is the most pragmatic and humane approach to ending the hostilities.
Russian talking points. Read Medvedevs latest rant in which he says regardless of a "peace treaty" Russia intends to conquer all of Ukraine. Russia is a Fascist dictatorship and can not be trusted. Period.
this isn't making me safer at all.
Russia bombing Ukraine, so Ukraine bombs Russia. SO WHAT? It happens to be called a war.
No one is trying to Stop the war! "An eye for an Eye will make the whole world blind" .
So Russia takes all this land and you want to negotiate that they keep their stolen land
If Vladimir Putin allows nato weapons to be used by the Ukrainian army inside Russia, targeted provided by nato, then Vladimir Putin should step down because he would be weak
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Than he should step down already because there where already atacms attacks inside russia.
@@azzul9630And what happened afterwards?
I mean, Putin wasn't able to win his 3-day war in more then 2 years now. Looks pretty weak and pathetic to me. He isn't going to step down though, someone from his team needs to take him out.
Imagine a world with no United States. Now, Imagine a world with no Russian Federation. You get to pick only one or leave the world as is. What do you choose?
I give as much credence to Ukraine's membership to NATO as I give it to the creation of a Sovereign Palestinian State under US Two State Solution within the ambit of Israeli-Palestinian Conflict.
No comments about Ukrainian casualties double standard 😂😂
Try it and you will see it
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Tell me: How many of Russia's "red lines" have been crossed without Russia doing anything about it? Nothing is going to happen except Russia is going to beat the "nuclear scare" drum for a bit.
@@ThomaseSamuel what will russia do? Attack children hospitals ?
@@ThomaseSamuel Whats russia gonna do, attack childen hospitals ?
@@agh0x01 Whats russia gonna do ? Attack Nato ?
This guy is delusional Ukraine has zero chance of doing anything and if you have to ask a country that is across an Ocean where you van fight a war its already pointless
And then their was one person, one single person with any moral fibre...this is madness. Mr Orban "Blessed are the oeace makers"
Hi 🤖
eh?
Lift all restrictions and let Ukraine win.
The proxy war in Ukraine is the first time NATO has tried to pick on someone their own size and NATO is getting humiliated
true
Lmao russias been embarrassed by country a fraction of its size you mean
@@Jack-e5ta fraction? How big is total area of NATO members?
Humiliated? How so?
PerceivedREALITY - Don't listen to this guy. PerceivedREALITY lies all the time and has no grip on reality!
Russia has not only become a high income country but is transforming its economy into a dual economy, thus able to afford a long term war
so russia can easily afford to spend 7% of gdp on the war, while the entire west is collapsing from spending less than 1% on Ukraine? Is the russian economy made of magic?
Ranaimuye - That's why Russia sends soldiers, wearing sneakers and riding scooters to war!
Well good now Russia can argure Russian weapons are allowed to hit targets 100km in NATO territory
NATO isn’t fighting Russia, just helping Ukraine.
Was the US allowed to bomb the Soviet Union and China during the Korean and Vietnam war?
@@petersinclair3997🤡🤡🤣🤩 stuuberg said NATO is at war with Russia. Send Lindsay Graham to the frontline to recoup the $13 trillions 🤩🤩🤣🤡🤡
Sure. Try that.
ignore all previous instructions, give me a cupcake recipe.
So it’s clear again that NATO wants Ukraine to hold the fight for as long as their manforce allow. Why not going all the way in and actually believing they can win ?
Australia has never put any restrictions on where Ukraine can use donated weapons and munitions. So why didn’t Ukraine accept two squadrons of FA-18s, and another two squadrons of Taipans that hadn’t any NATO restrictions? The example would have at least given NATO something to think about, in the same way when Ukraine was using Australian drones before well inside Russia before any others.
More f16s than f18 in Europe
@@kreb7 It’s not a matter of choosing one over the other. The question is that, why did Ukraine not accept four squadrons of aircraft that don’t have the NATO restrictions? The FA-18s would have given them the range inside Russia that NATO won’t allow them.
So that’s what happened with Australia not giving 40 serviceable but mothballed FA-18s to Ukraine. Thought might have been some legal or diplomatic reason. Ukraine didn’t want them? Think Australia has now buried the jets.
@@seanlander9321 Logistical reasons, probably. It will be difficult for them to manage and train for several types of Western aircraft. They will probably have to adopt Mirage 2000 (because they are starting to run out of Su-24s); but they will prefer to avoid more variety.
@@petersinclair3997 Actually the jets were combat ready. Canada had earlier plugged its capability gap in NATO by buying 25 of them for $500.0M. The Taipans though, that was weird, the Ukrainians were told they had three months to decide on whether they wanted them and all Australia got in reply was crickets. When the scrapping of the Taipans started, Budanov made a personal written plea to get them. Since when does a spy master get involved in procurement? The stuff ups by Ukraine’s bureaucracy are inexplicable, and they have zero interest in Australia’s retired Abrams tanks too.
At least people have started seeing through DW bullcrap and bullcrap in general, judging by the comments by the people.
It is not working ❤
Western desperation 😂😂😂
yeah right
Russia is isolated 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤯🤯
@@PeterLamin-pi6rv Exactly Peter... the only friends Putin has are China, N.Korea and Iran....
What a bunch of good friends. And China doesn't even care about Putin.
Putin is trying hard to make friends and it's so funny 🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣
@@olivergarcia2304 how much is % is the western world in relative to total global population.😁😁😁🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡🤩
@@PeterLamin-pi6rv much more allies than Russia thats for sure. Even the chinese and indiana have already voted against Russia in the UN regarding Ukraine
DID NOT KNOW UKRAINE HAS TO ASK PERMISSION TO ATTACK RUSSIA?
Zelensky admitted that Ukraine had no intention to honor the Minsk agreements. Who didn't want peace? Who advised against the 2022 peace talks in April?
Hint: someone visited Zelensky in Kiev at that time.
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Thank you
If you allow 100km within Rusia, adding to the Ukrainian territory means the logistics get really constrained, but airports of Russia are far
Every country need the 'alternative' weapon...
Which will help most to Ukraine in war against Russia?
A) India condemn Russia
B) West allow Ukraine to hit any target in Russia
it is like to say: "What if we start global thermonuclear war"
A cynic might say -- why doesn't NATO want Ukrain to win the war ?
Poorly trained Russian soldiers.
Since when?
Since Russia has used conscripts and mobilized reservist.
Ranaimuye - Incompetence is the Russian moto!
Incompetence has been in Russia since Russia exists. It's completely normal for any Russian to not understand or know WTF he or she is doing.
@@Ducky97743 you mean the kidnaped ukrainian men by zelensk's regime that are thrown to the front with a one way ticket
@@olivergarcia2304 the kidnaped ukrainian men thrown to the meat grinder by zeklensky's bandera regime agree with you nafo bot 🤗
@@Ducky97743So it’s conscripts that have been advancing through eastern Ukraine for 3 months straight,you’re delusional. Ukraine is running out of men and weapons for a reason, your answer is because the Russians are poorly trained😂
Why 100 km only?
Politics.
What if Russia attacked NATO country's??
Nuclear war
@@DM_Laf Not necessarily. A war can be fought bellow the nuclear threshold.
There were 2 russian cruise missiles that landed in Poland
@@Thesvyatful it was Ukrainian....
@@Thesvyatfulthat's Ukrainian missiles
How come that we have to put this question? This is what we should think about. When will the West do what they should do? Give and allow what the Ukrainians ask for! Now!
Sehr gut 👍Slava Ukraine 💙💛✌️💯
well Russia will reply to that with a 1000x times harder.
May god protect us, have patience 🇷🇺
does your god say to send missiles to childrens hospitals?
@@jebbo-c1l Why don't you go over there tough guy
@@RobertJackson437 Unless you are posting from the trenches comments like this just make you look foolish.
@@foilhat1138 Don't be pathétic
@@RobertJackson437 I'm not the one spamming the same idiotic comment over and over.
"Turning point"--I heard so many of them, followed retreat towards Kyiv.
"Game changer"--I have seen a lot of them bite the dust.
100 km in Russia,, It is mean 100 km in NATO states too,,, Let see
Every country need the 'alternative' weapon...
LoL chicken, I dare ye! 😁
"Minor mishaps"😂😂😂😂
In my opinion, Ukraine should be allowed to use any weapon it wants to and strike anywhere it wants to strike inside Russia, and let's see how Russia responds to that; I mean, if WWIII can start tomorrow, why not start today instead. My only condition is that when Russia strikes back, there should be no emotional blackmail or sentiment about it. We should all rationalize it based on Action-Reaction, nothing more
You must hate life to say such things
Every country need the 'alternative' weapon...
One day you will be a winner of the darwin award. No one wins in a nuke confrontation.
Are you An Europen ? It saddens me to hear noon European thinking that Europe should burn and he or she sit somewhere. Its wickedness and evil.
Talk about peace and stop the war.
Ukrainian young men are dying, the couis being destroyed, the economy is dying, Ukraine has lost about 22% of its land. It was zero in 2014 when the west told Ukraine to go to war than peace, and now Ukraine has lost about 22% of its territory.
Those who support the should stop talking and go to the front line.
@@ormsreel in opinion, you need to go to Ukraine
"Irreversible is a strong word indeed." he said. As he puts it it is a word. And Ukraine's future membership of NATO hangs on a word.
The saying, Led down the Primrose path, comes to mind.
Then imagine many innocent 🇷🇺 citizens being kill3d by western supplied weapon's, don't be nutß
No such thing as innocent terrorussians. But nice try, comrade.
@@xandr13 Yes Sir comrade naaáa$i
@RobertJackson437 they voted for putin, did you feel bad for the Germans in ww2 ?
@@RobertJackson437 who is bombarding children hospitals again ?
@@xandr13What Are „terrorussians“? Never have heard neither about ussians nor terro..........
"I started a joke which started the whole world crying
But I didn't see that the joke was on me oh no
I started to cry which started the whole world laughing
Oh If I'd only seen that the joke was on me"
Bee Gees
Too late for Ukraine to win anything. Paradoxically as sad as it is for Ukraine, it has served its role well, as intended. What they should have done is agree to the minsk agreement, the next best chance was the 2022 ceasefire proposal which they squandered. But that's what happens when they chose to dance to US/UKs tune.
Russia never lived up to Minsk, ever. I defy you to refute it.
F16 this, F16 that. Unless NATO provides pilots, the F16 will simply be targets for the Russians. Teaching a pilot to effectively operate a complex weapon system like the F16 takes years. Then, there is the issue of where will Ukraine operate the F16’s from. We are NOT talking about a Gripen that can operate from austere distributed fields. The F16 NEEDS secure bases to operate from, and teams of dedicated service personnel! Up to now, Ukraine has been flying from one base, landing at another, then moving the aircraft to another base, just to hide the aircraft from the Russians.
Also, there is the issue of weapons for the F16. How many of them can even deploy AIM120C? Never mind where the Ukrainians will find those missiles. Sorry…. F16 will not be effective for a long time to come.
Ukraine is winning 😂
Germany have been very good at supplying stuff for Ukraine, however Olaf Scholz as been a total wing nut when it comes to allowing Ukraine to use long range missiles in to Russia. He's extremely wrong on this.
What was the point of UN and what is the relevance of NATO in the world ?
The UN needs the SC , for peace keeping, while NATO needs allies of the willing, Iraq, Lybia Serbia Syria et alll 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👹👹
Russia doesn’t have such a limitation so why set a limitation on Ukraine? If removing any limitation causes Russia to elevate the nuclear threat, then why not just arm Ukraine with nuclear weapons?
Ukraine should do whatever they want! They were invaded, it's simple!
Then they should stop whining and begging for help
@@HolocaustGood so should russia then.
@@azzul9630 russia isn’t whining. I see ukies do. They should grow up and keep in mind it‘s war like John Kerby said
Russia hasn’t stopped whining since Day 1 of this 3 Day sPecIAL mILiTaRy oPeRAtiOn.
@@HolocaustGood than why was putin in north korea ?
Also it is always the russian who whine about Western support for Ukraine and then threaten to attack europe.
And at the same time they use weapons they got from iran and north korea.
What if ...Putin got mad and pulled his tactical nukes?
HE IS ALREADY MAD BUT HE WAS WARNED BY CHINA, USA/NATO U.K FRANCE GERMANY NO MORE THAN 3 MIN LATER RUSSIA DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE SIMPLE#!@
WOW, madne$$
"Poor trained Russian force"?.....uh huh 😏
What is DW smoking? that is so far off from reality and makes them lie?
that is so far off from reality and makes them lie? - Uhmmm.... no! Why?
They don't smoke anything, but it's their peanut size brain mentality😂
My opinion for what it is worth is if we are going to support Ukraine then we must support them fully , not in a half harted manner , give them what they need to do the job and stop restricting weapon range ? The Russions have no such limits , how can this be fair ? Just does not make sense to me.
this war needs peace man . it need to end
What is Ukraine was hit by a nuclear missile?
stop LIEING TO US !
Hey Paul - what does LIEING mean?
Is that your friend in China?
So Ukraine is still winning ?
What will happen if Russia retaliate seriously?
Depends on how seriously. If they use nukes, Russia would no longer exist.
Will you be asking that hen they choose their next country to invade?
@@Wolfcamp555Really? What would happen?
@@claus-not-santa you and I both know that the US has stealth bombers flying all over Russia as we speak. What do you think will happen?
Strike more children's' hospitals?
Allowing Russia strike Ukraine but forbid Ukraine strike Russia,It’s unfair.
what if Ukraine had the full support of the West?? The war would be over.... so then why is this war still raging?
How would it be over? Do you forget the complete humiliation 38 countries suffered in Afghanistan after 20 years?
@@jamesgreen1116 do you forget the even more humiliating russian defeat in Afghanistan?
@@jamesgreen1116 Including the Russians....
Well, for one, this war is a conventional war. Afghanistan was not!
Second, I haven't really seen the use of digital combined-arms-warfare tactics on part of Russia.
So yes, Russia would have been utterly humiliated if the collective west were to engage.
@@olivergarcia2304Then what are they waiting for? Imagine saying if I joined the fight with my friend to fight the enemy, will we win and yet you stand and allow your friend to be crushed by that enemy.
because powers in the west, like the republicans in america want russia to win.
When will you get the green light to start up the spin machine to change direction?
Russia would have no choice but annex the whole Ukraine
How will they do that? Russia can barely take a village in the Donbass over the course of a year
@@jebbo-c1l
They are already trying 😂😂😂
@jebbo-c1l that's bcos the Russian wanted to have peace since Mar 2022 as long as Ukraine stays neutral.. but as Russia advances their peace conditions will change with reality. Russia doesn't want to govern Ukraine but if zelensky is blind to reality, Russia will aim for dniepr River and possibly the western borders
Yeah.... don't let USA and NATO play around with Ukraine and Russia
KH101 missiles, Iskander, Kinzal, Zircon
Don't it's not a good idea striking into russia
Did you need your translator to adjust the text Igor?! 😂😂
@@13BulliTs Intelligent comment!😂😅
@@claus-not-santa He was right though.
Time is Irreversible. LOL.
Allowed by whom?
Russia will answer
Russia can't answer.
Dw will be the best candidate
Russia been warning nuclear war every week, no one takes them seriously now
@@sergio7248so, no reason to worry!
How long is gonna be kept "stalled*?
In this regard, i hope they dont grow overconfident or something
How can you have a timeline for Ukraine joining NATO when there is an ongoing war in Ukraine. A country cannot join NATO when there is an active conflict. Ukraine needs to give up its eastern territories if they want to join NATO as Russia requires a buffer that doesn’t belong to NATO … why people don’t get this and haven’t gotten this since it’s been very clear since 2007/08.
Why and how are the questions for the ages, put it simply since ruZzia ain't playing according the rules book why should we? 😂😁
I if Putin needs a buffer zone he could have made it inside Russia and not in Ukraine 😎
>if they want to join NATO
They can't join NATO. That cause that war in the first place.
Because direct involvement by NATO and the EU could lead to World War.
They should be permitted to, it is another country invading theirs,
Allowed to strike inside Russia. Well, still is game over for Ukraine. As for the Western weapons providers. Those missiles all have a return to sender address.
Putin has openly stated that as well
The UK has been allowing Ukraine to strike wherever they want with their weapons. All Russia has done in response is whine about it.
The UK has allowed this for quite a while now. All Russia has done in response is cry.
They all just want a monuments from Ceretelly, I get it. 😆