Can I ask as someone who’s considering one of these MG does the standard charger in the boot fit your home standard power point ? And do the outside chargers 🔌 fit this car or you need some sort of adaptor ? Like the Tesla chargers and BP chargers etc fits directly into the MG ?
In order: Yes, the standard charger is designed to work with a standard power point for slower at-home charging. As for outside charger, the answer is mostly yes; the MG4 is CCS2 so will be plug-compatible with most fast chargers and destination chargers (at some hotels/motels/council facilities etc); the only caveat there being Tesla, where some sites are open to other vehicles (like Yass in this video) while others are not -- Goulburn, not that far from Yass has Tesla chargers that will work only with Tesla vehicles. Grab the Plugshare app from your app store of choice and you can get a decent enough map of available chargers and notes on whether they're closed or open Tesla chargers and you're typically good to go (or keep going!).
Will charge at about 1.3kW from the supplied "granny charger", which fits into your standard 10A power point. Happy with 1.3kW as my solar will give me that even with clouds in winter. Seven kW seems to be the limit with AC charging and for that you will have to buy a different charger. 51kWh / 1.3kW means about 40hrs charging at home, if you want to go from 100% down to 0%, which is not recommended anyway. Once a month charge it to 100% to allow the BMS (Batt. Management System) to equalise the cells. If you charge from 75% down to 45% after 4,000 charge cycles, your batt. will have degraded only down to 92%!
@@zwieselerIndeed, though those are slower public chargers (and a different arrangement to the “granny” charger that plugs through to a standard wall socket.
Good review thanks. I live in South West France where you can get an MG4 51 on a no-deposit lease of €249 a month for 4 years. If I trade my ancient Dacia in for 5K then that drops the monthly down to €145 a month. So here's my logic ...... €145 x 48 payments is €7,000 plus the 5k for my old car. So €12,000 for 4 years of zero hassle car rental. If I bought one for €22k, given the incredible evolution of EVs, it's likely that I could lose that in depreciation. This way i get 4 years of hassle-free driving, hand it back in 4 years and lease whatever Science-Fiction EV is available then. I fully expect that battery tech will have moved to a new level, and that 80kw/hr batteries will be fairly commonplace in 4 years (So that give a real world range of 500km no worries). I think leasing is the best way forward in this environment and keep the cash in your bank as long as possible. I mean check out the Kia EV3 .... 84kw/hr !!!
Safe is the more critical part there - while it may not be strictly illegal in and of itself, it's less advisable - you've got worse vision by definition so your ability to spot hazards that could lead to cruise control misbehaving (over acceleration due to poor road surface etc) leading to an accident... qnd potential liability if it was later determined that your use of cruise control was a contributing factor in said accident. It's not advisable to do so on that basis.
2023 stock in Perth can be had for $9,000 less now at $31k at Melville MG with 10 year warranty 250,000km. My 2024 MG4 51kWh Excite cost me $40k with only 7 year warranty unlimited km. Had I known of the drop, I would have preferred the 2023 model for a lot less. In WA we can still get $3,500 off from the WA gov. for "Emission-free vehicles", so the 2023 model (until end of September or sold out!) would cost only $27.5k net.
Booked one yesterday at Melville MG, they only have 2 2024 model left, both in volcano orange, come with 10 year warranty, plan to pick it up next week, can't wait.
@@exilgermane3942 Great to hear that! I checked with MG Melville how much a 2024 would cost me and the answer came back as $41,500, so I assumed only 2023 models are sold at $31k - wrong!
@@dominicwild3189yep, John Hughes website says $41k but when you go to the “specials” tab it’s $32990… was $31 last month. I bought one last week of October, 24 model. Not delivered yet…. 🙁
They're going to get higher too I assume with time. But how often do you use them. How often are you travelling more than 200km without staying somewhere for hours.
My biggest gripe is selecting OPD everytime I get in my MG4. I only charge to 95% now so I can use OPD. After 17500kms I am getting over selecting it every time. I drove a Tesla for the first time on Saturday and it was great to not have to select it. Middy's Electrical in Wagga also has EV charging. Just an edit to ask why you don't use cruise control at night time? I use it everywhere all the time and have since I started driving in 1990.
I was aware of Middy's (it's on Plugshare) -- seems to indicate it's a BYO charger site, so somewhat slower than the Cross St or Tesla sites. Still haven't seen a charge for Cross St either -- and I have no idea why. Re: Cruise Control at night -- a safety consideration, because at night you've got less vision of road conditions ahead, it's riskier to give that control over to the car. I apply similar to when it's raining or if I know a road surface is poor, because cruise control just tries to keep a speed, even if the wheels spin.
@@AlexKidman fair enough on the cruise control thing. I think the Middy's charger is 25kw DC as my mate uses it to charge his BYD Seal while he goes to the gym.
The biggest problem with all of the current ev's, aside from range anxiety and cost of charging (if you cant do it at home) is that a lot of people are waiting for the solid state batteries, which should offer much longer life/warranties, faster charging and 1000km range. The problem is, when vehicles are released with the newer SS batteries, any existing ev vehicle with old tech batteries, will become next to worthless overnight.
solid state batteries won't change a thing. Because as the world reduces the energy diversification, the costs will skyrocket and as the production is not increasing meaningfully, the rarefaction will mean that any technological advancement will be negated not mildly but absolutely.
if you need stimulants to stay awake whilst driving, you should simply not drive for any length of time. Good thing is this comment is now tied to your account and used in a court of law, should any problem arise, to supplement the fact that you know there are sufficient doubts regarding your stamina. I'm half serious btw, but you should think that everything on the internet is forever.
This car has a small battery…. So maybe. You realise hybrids use a lot more fuel on highway driving? But use a Tesla M3 Long Range, different story… the MG4 51 is well suited to town work.
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GPS ? Android Auto is 1000 times better than integrated GPS. It's a great car.
Agree that it’s more powerful, but having onboard GPS can be useful if there’s a mobile network outage, or you lose your phone or similar. A little redundancy never hurts.
1000km is what, 600 miles. just looked at the the mg excite 64 with a max range of 350 km. So in real terms, the car is going to sit 1-2+ hours waiting at a charging station during the trip and about 3-4 hours behind a 30 years old clunker. Before watching the video, it's already easy to estimate that for a single person, this trip is going to be a waste of time and energy. (I said for a single person it's a waste of time and energy because travelling with wife and kids makes any reasonable human adult man want to burn the vehicle to the ground 😉)
Can I ask as someone who’s considering one of these MG does the standard charger in the boot fit your home standard power point ? And do the outside chargers 🔌 fit this car or you need some sort of adaptor ? Like the Tesla chargers and BP chargers etc fits directly into the MG ?
In order: Yes, the standard charger is designed to work with a standard power point for slower at-home charging. As for outside charger, the answer is mostly yes; the MG4 is CCS2 so will be plug-compatible with most fast chargers and destination chargers (at some hotels/motels/council facilities etc); the only caveat there being Tesla, where some sites are open to other vehicles (like Yass in this video) while others are not -- Goulburn, not that far from Yass has Tesla chargers that will work only with Tesla vehicles. Grab the Plugshare app from your app store of choice and you can get a decent enough map of available chargers and notes on whether they're closed or open Tesla chargers and you're typically good to go (or keep going!).
Will charge at about 1.3kW from the supplied "granny charger", which fits into your standard 10A power point. Happy with 1.3kW as my solar will give me that even with clouds in winter. Seven kW seems to be the limit with AC charging and for that you will have to buy a different charger. 51kWh / 1.3kW means about 40hrs charging at home, if you want to go from 100% down to 0%, which is not recommended anyway. Once a month charge it to 100% to allow the BMS (Batt. Management System) to equalise the cells. If you charge from 75% down to 45% after 4,000 charge cycles, your batt. will have degraded only down to 92%!
I have bought an MG4 Excite 51. I’m going to try and get by trickle charging for now. I will probably get a 7W unit installed later.
There are chargers which require you to bring your own lead.
@@zwieselerIndeed, though those are slower public chargers (and a different arrangement to the “granny” charger that plugs through to a standard wall socket.
Good review thanks. I live in South West France where you can get an MG4 51 on a no-deposit lease of €249 a month for 4 years. If I trade my ancient Dacia in for 5K then that drops the monthly down to €145 a month. So here's my logic ......
€145 x 48 payments is €7,000 plus the 5k for my old car. So €12,000 for 4 years of zero hassle car rental. If I bought one for €22k, given the incredible evolution of EVs, it's likely that I could lose that in depreciation. This way i get 4 years of hassle-free driving, hand it back in 4 years and lease whatever Science-Fiction EV is available then.
I fully expect that battery tech will have moved to a new level, and that 80kw/hr batteries will be fairly commonplace in 4 years (So that give a real world range of 500km no worries).
I think leasing is the best way forward in this environment and keep the cash in your bank as long as possible. I mean check out the Kia EV3 .... 84kw/hr !!!
Why do you claim it is illegal to use cruise control at night? I have checked and could not find such a restriction.
Safe is the more critical part there - while it may not be strictly illegal in and of itself, it's less advisable - you've got worse vision by definition so your ability to spot hazards that could lead to cruise control misbehaving (over acceleration due to poor road surface etc) leading to an accident... qnd potential liability if it was later determined that your use of cruise control was a contributing factor in said accident. It's not advisable to do so on that basis.
what was the fuel economy on this trip?
0L/100KM 👌
I’m guessing 16kWh/100 kms
2023 stock in Perth can be had for $9,000 less now at $31k at Melville MG with 10 year warranty 250,000km. My 2024 MG4 51kWh Excite cost me $40k with only 7 year warranty unlimited km. Had I known of the drop, I would have preferred the 2023 model for a lot less. In WA we can still get $3,500 off from the WA gov. for "Emission-free vehicles", so the 2023 model (until end of September or sold out!) would cost only $27.5k net.
I got the 2024 model for 31k with 10 years warranty.
Booked one yesterday at Melville MG, they only have 2
2024 model left, both in volcano orange, come with 10 year warranty, plan to pick it up next week, can't wait.
@@exilgermane3942 Great to hear that! I checked with MG Melville how much a 2024 would cost me and the answer came back as $41,500, so I assumed only 2023 models are sold at $31k - wrong!
@@dominicwild3189yep, John Hughes website says $41k but when you go to the “specials” tab it’s $32990… was $31 last month.
I bought one last week of October, 24 model. Not delivered yet…. 🙁
Why do all of those charge costs seem so high?! Not far off petrol costs for small/medium ice or hybrid
They're going to get higher too I assume with time. But how often do you use them. How often are you travelling more than 200km without staying somewhere for hours.
I have a Yaris cross hybrid. It uses a lot more fuel doing highway driving. 5 litres per 100 kms as opposed to as little as 3.2 in town.
My biggest gripe is selecting OPD everytime I get in my MG4. I only charge to 95% now so I can use OPD. After 17500kms I am getting over selecting it every time. I drove a Tesla for the first time on Saturday and it was great to not have to select it. Middy's Electrical in Wagga also has EV charging. Just an edit to ask why you don't use cruise control at night time? I use it everywhere all the time and have since I started driving in 1990.
I was aware of Middy's (it's on Plugshare) -- seems to indicate it's a BYO charger site, so somewhat slower than the Cross St or Tesla sites. Still haven't seen a charge for Cross St either -- and I have no idea why. Re: Cruise Control at night -- a safety consideration, because at night you've got less vision of road conditions ahead, it's riskier to give that control over to the car. I apply similar to when it's raining or if I know a road surface is poor, because cruise control just tries to keep a speed, even if the wheels spin.
@@AlexKidman fair enough on the cruise control thing. I think the Middy's charger is 25kw DC as my mate uses it to charge his BYD Seal while he goes to the gym.
What’s OPD please ?
@@rc70ys One Pedal Drive
@@rc70ysone pedal drive. Try googling once in a while
The biggest problem with all of the current ev's, aside from range anxiety and cost of charging (if you cant do it at home) is that a lot of people are waiting for the solid state batteries, which should offer much longer life/warranties, faster charging and 1000km range.
The problem is, when vehicles are released with the newer SS batteries, any existing ev vehicle with old tech batteries, will become next to worthless overnight.
solid state batteries won't change a thing. Because as the world reduces the energy diversification, the costs will skyrocket and as the production is not increasing meaningfully, the rarefaction will mean that any technological advancement will be negated not mildly but absolutely.
$31k drive away atm
Indeed - covered the current price drop here: ua-cam.com/video/ifjD6s7wuVo/v-deo.htmlsi=7oKQG5fKfA9kIQT9
Crazy cheap
Now $32,990 .
@@frankwong8785$3500 rebate from the govt in WA…. Too good.
The only range I am concern with an EV is it greater than my bladder & coffee hit range, ie 2 hrs driving highway code recommends 15 min break.
if you need stimulants to stay awake whilst driving, you should simply not drive for any length of time. Good thing is this comment is now tied to your account and used in a court of law, should any problem arise, to supplement the fact that you know there are sufficient doubts regarding your stamina. I'm half serious btw, but you should think that everything on the internet is forever.
So basically, the same trip would have been cheaper, quicker and a lot less stressful in a hybrid Camry or RAV4.. 😂
This car has a small battery…. So maybe. You realise hybrids use a lot more fuel on highway driving?
But use a Tesla M3 Long Range, different story… the MG4 51 is well suited to town work.
GPS ? Android Auto is 1000 times better than integrated GPS. It's a great car.
Agree that it’s more powerful, but having onboard GPS can be useful if there’s a mobile network outage, or you lose your phone or similar. A little redundancy never hurts.
1000km is what, 600 miles. just looked at the the mg excite 64 with a max range of 350 km. So in real terms, the car is going to sit 1-2+ hours waiting at a charging station during the trip and about 3-4 hours behind a 30 years old clunker. Before watching the video, it's already easy to estimate that for a single person, this trip is going to be a waste of time and energy. (I said for a single person it's a waste of time and energy because travelling with wife and kids makes any reasonable human adult man want to burn the vehicle to the ground 😉)
Yeah Ute did the right thing! 😂