Very good review. I would go for the Dolphin because I am a retired old git and am not really interested in performance driving but like my creature comforts.
We're a 60ish couple, about to become grands. This is an important consideration. Some neighbors have the MG for a year now, but we're leaning towards the BYD after test drives.
@@simchadanielburstyn2137 I hope that you enjoy whatever car you buy. According to The Electric Viking on UA-cam there could be upgraded versions of the Dolphin coming, for more information see: NEW 2025 BYD Dolphin gets more range and NO price increase
If you're going for the bang-for-buck entry level models (MG Excite 51 vs BYD Dolphin Dynamic) then the BYD is a non-starter. Completely underpowered even for a city runabout. If you step up to the premium offerings (MG Essence 64 / 77 vs BYD Dolphin Premium) then the BYD is absolutely a contender. What you lose out in driving dynamic is easily made up for with the benefits of the BYD LFP battery, as the MG 64, 77 and XPower variants are all NMC chemistry.
Agreed with how underpowered the base Dolphin is. I’m glad the base Excite 51 has a LFP battery and it was a bargain during the $30,990 promotion. Even with the NMC battery (which is fine by a lot of people even if it isn’t ideal with degradation and only charging to 80) I’d still prefer the MG4 Essence to the way the Dolphin handles. They may give it adequate power but it doesn’t stop the sloppy handling or quirky interior. They are for 2 completely different buyers and are 2 different value propositions on base vs upper level.
Don't care about MG4 to be honest, but Dolphin costs 32.000€ in Germany and around 33.000 pounds in England. Are those Cheap mate? To some people, this is their whole life accomplishment. And to be fair, some people can't even think about those cars. Let's be honest, Cheap is a car that costs less than 10.000, Mid range is a car that costs no more than 30.000 and more than than, those are EXPENSIVE cars. Rest are exotics...
I don’t think it’s his fault as an *Australian* commentator for calling them cheap EVs comparatively just because of crazy European taxes or because of your poor “whole life accomplishments”. Should we start reviewing for every country in the world, and state that a moped is “expensive” because people in third world countries cannot afford it. Last time I checked this isn’t Product Review Slovenia. These cars can be had for around or under 20,000 Euros in Australia. Yes they are cheap for electric vehicles.
I noticed someone complained about the pace of your presentation. They're wrong. Your pace is just fine. if you slowed the pace then your video will go for 45 minutes. I don't have the time.
MG 4, get in put your foot on the brake and it gets ready to drive - easy. My car's rear tyre pressure sensors also are very sensitive. The absolute plus of this car is rear wheel drive - excellent!
Trust me, I had my foot through that brake pedal every time I was starting it up to move it around for the shoot, it's a slow to react keyless start. Other than that, it's great value.
The car I'll pick is.... THE ONE THAT HAVE INDEPENDENT.... rear multi-link suspension as standard just like the more expensive variants. And yes the Excite 51 have the same rear suspension as Essence Long Range 77 and XPower. Off course I'll spend an extra AU$100 for a MUCH BETTER suspension. Technically an independent multi-link suspension cost WAY MORE than a simple torsion beam. I like to say thousands of dollars worth of suspension upgrade if you ask me!
Recently test-drove both and liked both. For us the MG4 won for two reasons: 1. My partner found the Dolphin significantly less comfortable to drive. This is a killer thing. She’s quite petite and this is a big problem for her in some cars. The MG was fine for her however. I liked the drive of both but felt the MG was more fun. 2. The gadget first approach of the Dolphin left me cold. I’m a huge gadget freak but I firmly believe the tech should serve the user, not the other way around, and the rotating screen just felt like gadgets for the sake of it to me. Truth be told, they’re both great choices.
Wait a sec, how long ago did you review both cars? Because the MG4 Long Range 77 is now $53K, not the $60K launch price. Also Dolphin has already been on out Australian market for a few months yet you said it is just recently launched?
Yeah shot this a couple of months back. So prices changed since then. Put up the relevant prices for the base models on this review for the sake of comparison. Seems EV prices are changing faster than the seasons at the moment.
Is there much to choose from as they’re both made in China and owned by the Chinese Companies. They both have Lithium Ion battery tech but the BYD has blade battery tech so maybe this is worth a thought I guess.
Put quality tyres on it and you will notice a huge difference!! I swapped the ling longs to continental and it's completely fine. 0-60 on the trip at 6.2! Also mg reliability very poor, dealership back up very poor after recent experience. Mg4 booring inside and out. Also many ice fwd cars will spin up... Learn to use the throttle and you will be ok!!!
Tires should be better than this from factory, pretty lame to have to replace them from new to get better grip. Additionally, a front wheel drive electric car is going to dynamically inferior to a rear wheel drive one...
@@ProductReviewCars Agree. The mediocre Linglong tyres is one main reason I am not buying the Dolphin Premium. Owners who swapped them while still brand new have problem selling them cause no one want to buy them, many end up throwing these brand new tyres away. What a waste.
Ι wish BYD Dolphin had face from other BYD models.... It looks so Chinese and old design in front.... The rear and the interior are amazing and the quality of the interior is amazing...... Make a facelift with other face and I will get it.... Mg face much more pleasing to my eyes but the rest just an family SUV like.
MG4 is a way better car. Its still a car and the MG is a much better drive, i mean how many of us will use all those apps, heck its not even legal in some countries to use them while driving. Overall i tried both and MG 4 wins by a mile.
You can just use a route planner, range not a premium that matters in most modern countries. Here in Thailand there is a charger about every 5 minutes across most of the country
Both car made by Chinese and own by Chinese companies..I don’t think it’s much different ..maybe some people still doesn’t know that..MG isn’t own by British anymore..it’s had sold to China
Very good review. I would go for the Dolphin because I am a retired old git and am not really interested in performance driving but like my creature comforts.
Thanks! It is the more comfortable car when it comes to interior features for sure
We're a 60ish couple, about to become grands. This is an important consideration. Some neighbors have the MG for a year now, but we're leaning towards the BYD after test drives.
@@simchadanielburstyn2137 I hope that you enjoy whatever car you buy.
According to The Electric Viking on UA-cam there could be upgraded versions of the Dolphin coming, for more information see:
NEW 2025 BYD Dolphin gets more range and NO price increase
In the mg4 inflate all 4 tyres just over the recommended pressure and that sorts out tyre pressure warnings
If you're going for the bang-for-buck entry level models (MG Excite 51 vs BYD Dolphin Dynamic) then the BYD is a non-starter. Completely underpowered even for a city runabout.
If you step up to the premium offerings (MG Essence 64 / 77 vs BYD Dolphin Premium) then the BYD is absolutely a contender. What you lose out in driving dynamic is easily made up for with the benefits of the BYD LFP battery, as the MG 64, 77 and XPower variants are all NMC chemistry.
Agreed with how underpowered the base Dolphin is. I’m glad the base Excite 51 has a LFP battery and it was a bargain during the $30,990 promotion.
Even with the NMC battery (which is fine by a lot of people even if it isn’t ideal with degradation and only charging to 80) I’d still prefer the MG4 Essence to the way the Dolphin handles.
They may give it adequate power but it doesn’t stop the sloppy handling or quirky interior. They are for 2 completely different buyers and are 2 different value propositions on base vs upper level.
How’s your opinion hold up now that the mg4 is on sale for $31k?
Good review...Dolphin by a nose! No pun intended...
I expect all Dolphin puns for this video
Don't care about MG4 to be honest, but Dolphin costs 32.000€ in Germany and around 33.000 pounds in England.
Are those Cheap mate? To some people, this is their whole life accomplishment. And to be fair, some people can't
even think about those cars.
Let's be honest, Cheap is a car that costs less than 10.000, Mid range is a car that costs no more than 30.000 and
more than than, those are EXPENSIVE cars.
Rest are exotics...
I don’t think it’s his fault as an *Australian* commentator for calling them cheap EVs comparatively just because of crazy European taxes or because of your poor “whole life accomplishments”.
Should we start reviewing for every country in the world, and state that a moped is “expensive” because people in third world countries cannot afford it. Last time I checked this isn’t Product Review Slovenia.
These cars can be had for around or under 20,000 Euros in Australia. Yes they are cheap for electric vehicles.
MG4 definitely 💯👍🏻
I noticed someone complained about the pace of your presentation. They're wrong. Your pace is just fine. if you slowed the pace then your video will go for 45 minutes. I don't have the time.
MG 4, get in put your foot on the brake and it gets ready to drive - easy. My car's rear tyre pressure sensors also are very sensitive. The absolute plus of this car is rear wheel drive - excellent!
Trust me, I had my foot through that brake pedal every time I was starting it up to move it around for the shoot, it's a slow to react keyless start. Other than that, it's great value.
The car I'll pick is.... THE ONE THAT HAVE INDEPENDENT.... rear multi-link suspension as standard just like the more expensive variants. And yes the Excite 51 have the same rear suspension as Essence Long Range 77 and XPower. Off course I'll spend an extra AU$100 for a MUCH BETTER suspension. Technically an independent multi-link suspension cost WAY MORE than a simple torsion beam. I like to say thousands of dollars worth of suspension upgrade if you ask me!
Recently test-drove both and liked both. For us the MG4 won for two reasons:
1. My partner found the Dolphin significantly less comfortable to drive. This is a killer thing. She’s quite petite and this is a big problem for her in some cars. The MG was fine for her however. I liked the drive of both but felt the MG was more fun.
2. The gadget first approach of the Dolphin left me cold. I’m a huge gadget freak but I firmly believe the tech should serve the user, not the other way around, and the rotating screen just felt like gadgets for the sake of it to me.
Truth be told, they’re both great choices.
Thanks Guy Pearce
Anytime
Sorry, I thought that he was Daniel Jackson from Stargate-SG1.
Yes, the tyres are less quality, but the Dolphin wheels are much more narrow than the MG 205 vs 235
Wait a sec, how long ago did you review both cars? Because the MG4 Long Range 77 is now $53K, not the $60K launch price. Also Dolphin has already been on out Australian market for a few months yet you said it is just recently launched?
Yeah shot this a couple of months back. So prices changed since then. Put up the relevant prices for the base models on this review for the sake of comparison. Seems EV prices are changing faster than the seasons at the moment.
Also, the long range 77kwh MG4 is the same RWD and not AWD only the 64kwh Xpower is AWD
Great review thank you !
Thank you for watching!
great review, really helped
Glad to hear it!
Is there much to choose from as they’re both made in China and owned by the Chinese Companies. They both have Lithium Ion battery tech but the BYD has blade battery tech so maybe this is worth a thought I guess.
Put quality tyres on it and you will notice a huge difference!! I swapped the ling longs to continental and it's completely fine. 0-60 on the trip at 6.2! Also mg reliability very poor, dealership back up very poor after recent experience. Mg4 booring inside and out. Also many ice fwd cars will spin up... Learn to use the throttle and you will be ok!!!
Tires should be better than this from factory, pretty lame to have to replace them from new to get better grip. Additionally, a front wheel drive electric car is going to dynamically inferior to a rear wheel drive one...
@@ProductReviewCars Agree. The mediocre Linglong tyres is one main reason I am not buying the Dolphin Premium. Owners who swapped them while still brand new have problem selling them cause no one want to buy them, many end up throwing these brand new tyres away. What a waste.
Those spurious tyre warnings would get the car a roadworthy test fail in the uk.
Small bit of advice. Slow down a little and im sure your channel will grow.
Appreciate the feedback. Noted for future vids 🫡
You can always play back at 0.75x speed!
@amniote69
A : "speak in english, please."
B : "you should learn spanish."
MG4 is 52k AUD in my country, while Dolphin is 40k AUD. WTF! If its 100 AUD difference, MG4 for me haha
BYD Seagull US $ 10000
You can turn off the Dolphin speed alarms via shortcuts in a couple of seconds like so … ua-cam.com/video/JiXh-9Pa4WM/v-deo.htmlsi=CO17tfaNzv04mZ6g
That's pretty much?
yoruldum dinlerken biraz daha sakin anlatsan keşke :)
Ι wish BYD Dolphin had face from other BYD models.... It looks so Chinese and old design in front.... The rear and the interior are amazing and the quality of the interior is amazing...... Make a facelift with other face and I will get it.... Mg face much more pleasing to my eyes but the rest just an family SUV like.
mg4 looks is much better
MG4 is a way better car. Its still a car and the MG is a much better drive, i mean how many of us will use all those apps, heck its not even legal in some countries to use them while driving. Overall i tried both and MG 4 wins by a mile.
Slow down buddy
Huhhhhh?
These Chinese cars were supposed to be cheap. But you must spend the same amount as you would for a Tesla Model 3 for a comparable range.
Tell me you are american without telling me
You can just use a route planner, range not a premium that matters in most modern countries. Here in Thailand there is a charger about every 5 minutes across most of the country
Whatever it is after battery warranty, car worth only body value.
No thanks EV
This dolphin is $16k usd here in Thailand and has an 8 year warranty on battery and car entirely. Do you think 16k for 8 years is good?
I stopped watching when he said "these aren't the base models".
I think the MG dies 117 kW fast charging.
88kW for the Excite base model, 140 kW (64 kWh battery) and 144 kW (77 kWh battery)
Both car made by Chinese and own by Chinese companies..I don’t think it’s much different ..maybe some people still doesn’t know that..MG isn’t own by British anymore..it’s had sold to China
*You look Chinese to me*
I rather push an MGB GT & Leyland Mini than drive MG4 & BYD Dolphin
EV mini? New Chargeheads video has just reviewed one.
zero interest in EV shitboxes 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Then what are you doing watching the so called “shit boxes”?
Another brainwashed drone who believes the baseless big oil and legacy auto disinformation.
Bring back coal, right?
@@robertmuster1350 i didn’t watch it … 👍
@@gfabie4901 💯 absolutely!!! 👍
Omg mate slow down ffs and stop flapping your arms about
Oh the toggles aren’t named it takes 2 seconds to learn what they do ffs are you 12 yo and the star buttons are programable sheez
Do you often say things twice?
Oh the toggles aren’t named it takes 2 seconds to learn what they do ffs are you 12 yo and the star buttons are programable sheez