How Did Robert the Bruce Nearly Get Captured?

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  • Опубліковано 16 гру 2024

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  • @briantoal1880
    @briantoal1880 3 роки тому +9

    Enjoying these videos so much. I'm binge watching them like I just discovered Game of Thrones. Thank you so much for these. Looking forward to many more. All the best from Kearny, New Jersey, USA. Once known as Little Scotland and holds the honor of being known as Soccer Town USA, which the Scots and Irish introduced to the area going back to the 1870s! It took the rest of our country over 100 years to catch up on the beautiful game. This area is rich in Scottish/Irish history and culture that is still prevalent today. Cheers!

  • @raydriver7300
    @raydriver7300 Рік тому

    Little known history brought to life by a passionate story teller 🌞

  • @kenteslick3942
    @kenteslick3942 3 роки тому +6

    I really enjoy your videos, the way that you present them is great!

  • @scottmccann4509
    @scottmccann4509 4 роки тому +14

    Fascinating! You've left the story on a cliff hanger. Bruce appears finished 😱

  • @Stephen2153
    @Stephen2153 3 роки тому

    Amazing Bruce had any support...

  • @taniakaratau5654
    @taniakaratau5654 Рік тому

    Love it Thankyou💖🙏🏽💯

  • @billyriley492
    @billyriley492 3 роки тому +5

    Seems like Outlaw King (which I really enjoyed) was actually based on historical events instead of Braveheart - which I also really liked and desperately wanted to be closely linked to history.
    Another superb video. I have shared - people need to see these. You have an excellent way of putting things - keeps the viewer interested.
    Thank you

  • @rossmcgregor9807
    @rossmcgregor9807 3 роки тому +3

    Found your channel after researching about the Rob Roy way and haven't stopped watching your videos. Your honestly my new favourite channel amazing content 💚🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @velondabe6868
    @velondabe6868 3 роки тому +1

    Enjoying my Scottish History tonight with Bruce! TY from Nevada USA.

    • @ScotlandHistoryTours
      @ScotlandHistoryTours  3 роки тому +2

      I saw this when I woke up this morning and it gave me such a lift

  • @charlestaylor8566
    @charlestaylor8566 3 роки тому +18

    The young James Douglas was with Bruce at Methven , and ever after the rout he always made sure his camps were well guarded on his own campaigns , never heard that one about Bruce being captured.

    • @angryhistoryguy5657
      @angryhistoryguy5657 2 роки тому +1

      I would guess that the lessons of Methven were high in the mind of another Douglas when he camped at Otterburn in 1388, expecting to be followed by a force led by the young Henry "Hotspur" Percy. That night ambush turned into a very embarrassing defeat for the English.

  • @annegraham1891
    @annegraham1891 4 роки тому +12

    Cheers another interesting account.

  • @richardhallyburton
    @richardhallyburton 3 роки тому +2

    Wow. Just Wow. I did not know that. I did however know of another Hallyburton, James, who was Bonnie Dundee's best buddy and died alongside him at Killiecrankie. The Bold Pitcur who fell in a fur. I feel I shall walk just a little taller from this day on, knowing an ancestor of mine played such a pivotal role. Thank you for this video.

    • @coreyfolsom8578
      @coreyfolsom8578 2 роки тому +1

      I'm thinkin' that there is a backstory. Since Haliburton is a Scottish border clan and since the Bruce rode for Edward I a dozen years earlier. RTB very possibly rode shoulder to shoulder with John de Haliburton. Perhaps the Bruce even got John de Haliburton out of a tight spot. (Maybe even saved his life as the Bruce's father did for Edward I on Crusade.) So John de Haliburton was likely a Scottish knight still fighting on the English side and could have been returning a big favor.

    • @richardhallyburton
      @richardhallyburton 2 роки тому

      @@coreyfolsom8578 Yes, that's a good possibility, I hadn't thought of that. Thanks!

  • @Saintkev76
    @Saintkev76 4 роки тому +12

    I know it’s rough for you Posh Blackford types, but I was hoping you would pitch up in Methven for it. I would’ve paid for your new wheels!! Another great video 👍

  • @kevinforeman5883
    @kevinforeman5883 3 роки тому +2

    Wow, that was fun

  • @jameshalfpenny4726
    @jameshalfpenny4726 4 роки тому +3

    Didn’t know that.......fascinating tale.

  • @jimross7648
    @jimross7648 3 роки тому +8

    John de Haliburton can't really find much about him other he lived and died. He had to be an interesting guy full of contradictions. Such are vagaries of history. Great history as always.

    • @marc8013
      @marc8013 3 роки тому

      End up at the same problem not much on him

  • @brianconnolly8769
    @brianconnolly8769 4 роки тому +2

    Great story teller 👍

  • @frankhancock2881
    @frankhancock2881 Рік тому

    I enjoy these video's so much

  • @Nastyswimmer
    @Nastyswimmer 3 роки тому +5

    9:26 - flying the Jolly Roger - exactly. The Jolly Roger (Jolie Rouge = pretty red) was a plain red flag flown to show that no quarter would be given and none expected. It IS the dragon flag. (The pirate flag with skull and crossbones isn't the jolly roger - it's the pirate flag or black flag)

  • @mervmolloy
    @mervmolloy 4 роки тому +6

    Having watched your fifth video..really enjoying your work Bruce. I’m looking out for ‘leanings’, so far nicely balanced.
    Highland clearances video, a wonderful piece. History is all about interpretation, so don’t over concern with pedantic academics....there’ll be plenty of their mates who say they’re talking b*****s

  • @BigMrFirebird
    @BigMrFirebird 3 роки тому +2

    So you could say, John had it Comyn? BTW, I've never heard of the Dragon Banner before. Sounds similar to the French Oriflamme or the American black flag. The previous banner with a dragon on it had been the red dragon of the kingdom of Wessex used at Hastings. The next time I've heard of the same banner being used was by Edward III at Crecy.

  • @ScotlandHistoryTours
    @ScotlandHistoryTours  4 роки тому +3

    This link should take you to that book, Battleground Perthshire, on Amazon... amzn.to/2Xz5BlT

  • @shuanluke3983
    @shuanluke3983 3 роки тому

    Epic story , thanks 😎

  • @digschopper9321
    @digschopper9321 3 роки тому

    Amazing!

  • @stuartridley2222
    @stuartridley2222 2 роки тому +3

    I read an article about De Brus being famous due to his combat abilities in tourneys mainly held in France. Some of which was on the scale of large battles. He reputedly gained fame and fortune from these events. Interesting point to note here is Brus challenging Aymer De Valence to single combat, I think Brus would have faired better but obviously from a tactical view point De Valence had in mind of a night ambush. Of interesting note again is fast forward to the Battle of Bannockburn on the first day of battle Brus killing De Bohun is proof of the fighting experience Brus had (plus he had a better nag)😉😊👍🏻

  • @area609joe7
    @area609joe7 3 роки тому +5

    Rewatching this, third time I think. Congrats n the growth of your channel. 4x or 5x times a in a few months. Not bad for a physics teacher🧐😎 but well
    Deserved.

  • @scooterscotland
    @scooterscotland 4 роки тому +1

    Your a very talented fella.

  • @weescotsman17
    @weescotsman17 4 роки тому +4

    Once again most of us knew about Rab the Bruce wouldn't have known this story....

    • @ScotlandHistoryTours
      @ScotlandHistoryTours  4 роки тому +1

      Aye, sometimes I worry that things have been done to death. The date meant a toss up between
      the anniversary of this battle or the birth of James VI. I reckoned both would have been covered a lot and there's too many knowledgeable people our there following.

  • @liampaterson3424
    @liampaterson3424 2 роки тому +1

    As a slightly interesting aside, the name Haliburton derives from the same old pronunciation of 'holy' as Holyrood does although it has changed slightly so that we today pronounce the 'holy' in Hollyrood as 'holly'.

  • @zaynevanday142
    @zaynevanday142 3 роки тому +2

    At War you should always be on alert with sentries posted if you don’t you invite destruction it’s a lesson that not many get a chance at redemption ! Luck was truly shining upon the Bruce that day !

  • @Andrea.S.Alvey12
    @Andrea.S.Alvey12 Рік тому

    Excuse me, but would someone kindly explain what the (basics) history is, behind the 'Dragon Banner?'
    I can't recall ever hearing or reading about it.
    In advance of any help, I thank you.

  • @raymondfink9580
    @raymondfink9580 3 роки тому

    A video on the battle of bannockburn would be awesome

    • @ScotlandHistoryTours
      @ScotlandHistoryTours  3 роки тому +1

      There's actually one on my Patreon site where I interviewed one of my patrons who does tours. I'm not sure I'd want to steal his thunder

  • @kentait66
    @kentait66 2 місяці тому

    🤔I'd absolutely NO IDEA that was even there☺️Bruce!😊
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    (🤭had a wee bump once😜on Wade's Bridge!)😂
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    LOVE💙Highland Perthshire!🤭(Full Stop!)😜
    ... 🤭and I LOVE💙You🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿Brother!🫵😎👍

  • @elenaotero6563
    @elenaotero6563 3 роки тому +1

    Bruce. great stuff all your work. Am a douglas i heard that the black douglas was an allies of robert the bruce. Is it true

  • @alexandermethven
    @alexandermethven Рік тому

    my name ,came from The battle of Methven,.puzzled .solved.👍

  • @jangowan5742
    @jangowan5742 3 роки тому +1

    I heard that only a certain lady from Clan McDuff could proclaim a King for Scotland?..and she choose Bruce,but maybe I'm wrong

  • @alexandermethven
    @alexandermethven Рік тому

    As a Methven ,i no,more about Methven village .and The battle of Methven 1306.well, done Bruce.

  • @pentegarn1
    @pentegarn1 3 роки тому +3

    I wonder if the stories I hear in lodge are true....that the Knights Templar remnant supported Bruce?

    • @ScotlandHistoryTours
      @ScotlandHistoryTours  3 роки тому +3

      Jury's out Id say

    • @coreyfolsom8578
      @coreyfolsom8578 2 роки тому

      @@ScotlandHistoryTours My ancestor, Sir John Lyon, was likely Knight's Templar and was Chamberlin of Scotland under the Bruce.

  • @jbearmcdougall1646
    @jbearmcdougall1646 3 роки тому

    Hiya...yes, me again.... I didn't know about his release from Methven by John...
    And my lot (Mcdougalls) were not fans.. he took revenge though...
    I lived in Methven for a year next door to The snooker player Jimmy white's cousin, bernadette..😆. Random I know.

  • @srodgers85
    @srodgers85 2 роки тому

    I can think of lots of different numbers, but I don't think any of them would be more acturate for your question. 32,351,684 for example.

  • @macfiercesome
    @macfiercesome 2 роки тому +1

    Enjoyed this episode( as usual) but was it no Adam De Haliburton who kept schtum about the Bruce's true identity? John De Haliburton (his son) was not born until 1313.

    • @ScotlandHistoryTours
      @ScotlandHistoryTours  2 роки тому

      Apologies

    • @coreyfolsom8578
      @coreyfolsom8578 2 роки тому +1

      I'm thinkin' that there is a backstory. Since Haliburton is a Scottish border clan and since the Bruce rode for Edward I a dozen years earlier. RTB very possibly rode shoulder to shoulder with John de Haliburton. Perhaps the Bruce even got John de Haliburton out of a tight spot. (Maybe even saved his life as the Bruce's father did for Edward I on Crusade.) So John de Haliburton was likely a Scottish knight still fighting on the English side and could have been returning a big favor.

  • @coreyfolsom8578
    @coreyfolsom8578 2 роки тому +1

    I'm thinkin' that there is a backstory. Since Haliburton is a Scottish border clan and since the Bruce rode for Edward I a dozen years earlier. RTB very possibly rode shoulder to shoulder with John de Haliburton. Perhaps the Bruce even got John de Haliburton out of a tight spot. (Maybe even saved his life as the Bruce's father did for Edward I on Crusade.) So John de Haliburton was likely a Scottish knight still fighting on the English side and could have been returning a big favor.

  • @lindamazur6124
    @lindamazur6124 3 роки тому +1

    That must have been the last honorable thing a Halliburton ever did

    • @coreyfolsom8578
      @coreyfolsom8578 2 роки тому

      I'm thinkin' that there is a backstory. Since Haliburton is a Scottish border clan and since the Bruce rode for Edward I a dozen years earlier. RTB very possibly rode shoulder to shoulder with John de Haliburton. Perhaps the Bruce even got John de Haliburton out of a tight spot. (Maybe even saved his life as the Bruce's father did for Edward I on Crusade.) So John de Haliburton was likely a Scottish knight still fighting on the English side and could have been returning a big favor.

  • @scottw.3258
    @scottw.3258 3 роки тому +3

    Raising the Dragon wasn't a literal banner. It was a declaration. If you raised the Dragon, it was an end to chivalry. Why tell your enemy you're not playing by the rules? If you tell them, they'll drop the chivalry too. It was about surprise. So when Bruce set up camp in Methven Wood, he was under the impression the code was still being adhered to, that the English would rest up and prepare for Battle in the morning, so he had no reason to have sentries or keep his men prepared for the 'unexpected'.
    When you then consider the tactics used at Bannockburn, where he mobilised his army to attack the English before they had time to properly deploy their troops, then you can see he learned a lesson and used their lack of chivalry against them.

    • @dupplinmuir113
      @dupplinmuir113 3 роки тому

      It was a real banner, rather like the French Oriflamme, which meant 'no quarter'. As for announcing it, the Scots contingent at the Battle of Verneuil in 1424 informed the English beforehand that they would neither give nor accept quarter - which led to the whole force, 6000 strong, being wiped out.

    • @scottw.3258
      @scottw.3258 3 роки тому +2

      @@dupplinmuir113 It wasn't a physical banner. Honestly, think about it.
      And you're giving an example more than 100 later than Methven and in very different circumstances.
      The English in 1306 were looking to wipe Bruce off the face of the Earth, essentially. Had they been flying a physical banner, what do you suppose would've happened? Do you think Bruce with his smaller force would've gone looking for a fight?? I really don't think so. He'd have kept on the move, looking to strengthen his forces, before perhaps then inviting battle or look to pick off English columns one by one. Bruce wasn't an idiot.
      By giving no indication that no quarter would be given, Bruce had no reason to be suspicious of anything and so he moved his army 7 miles down the road safe in the knowledge there would be no battle until morning... Or so he thought.
      The attack then showed him that No quarter was being given and so he then started giving no quarter.

    • @angussoutter7824
      @angussoutter7824 3 роки тому +3

      English and a lack of Chivalry colour me surprised 😱

  • @sharkfacemlg
    @sharkfacemlg 3 роки тому +1

    Jesse, jesse you've got to listen to me, you've got to get the Methven secured.

  • @jkitty9069
    @jkitty9069 2 роки тому

    12:02 “History is written by victor”, I find this phrase so interesting now. I live in the US, where our history has been RE-WRITTEN by the losers. Those who proclaimed, “The south shall rise again” are bringing that pass here right now.

  • @duncangregson1837
    @duncangregson1837 3 роки тому

    As a immigant I had to press like when you you said I walked home from the berry picken ,So scottish.

  • @endtimespreaching8872
    @endtimespreaching8872 3 роки тому

    I am half Norwegian, a little Scottish, English Irish and have one Algonquin Grandma. I am not sure who I'm supposed to hate.

  • @coinneachreid8971
    @coinneachreid8971 3 роки тому

    Could be four Aethelstan ?

  • @gregorytaylor3146
    @gregorytaylor3146 3 роки тому +1

    It would seem that Bruce made the same mistake that how many other officers have made throughout history difference was he managed to avoid paying for it with his life and or his command

    • @coreyfolsom8578
      @coreyfolsom8578 2 роки тому +1

      I'm thinkin' that there is a backstory. Since Haliburton is a Scottish border clan and since the Bruce rode for Edward I a dozen years earlier. RTB very possibly rode shoulder to shoulder with John de Haliburton. Perhaps the Bruce even got John de Haliburton out of a tight spot. (Maybe even saved his life as the Bruce's father did for Edward I on Crusade.) So John de Haliburton was likely a Scottish knight still fighting on the English side and could have been returning a big favor.

    • @gregorytaylor3146
      @gregorytaylor3146 2 роки тому

      @@coreyfolsom8578 Your idea seems very plausible

  • @karenmanderville154
    @karenmanderville154 Рік тому

    Always watch the bloodline of the wives, many are the handlers

  • @charlesdriggers199
    @charlesdriggers199 3 роки тому +2

    This puts me in a bit of a pickle. But ,of course you know why with just a wedding. Not only is Robert the Bruce my ancestor. So was John Comyn. John McDougall of Lorn. And one I am not really proud of would be Edward 1. So whos side am I on. Why your side Bruce.

    • @coreyfolsom8578
      @coreyfolsom8578 2 роки тому

      I'm thinkin' that there is a backstory. Since Haliburton is a Scottish border clan and since the Bruce rode for Edward I a dozen years earlier. RTB very possibly rode shoulder to shoulder with John de Haliburton. Perhaps the Bruce even got John de Haliburton out of a tight spot. (Maybe even saved his life as the Bruce's father did for Edward I on Crusade.) So John de Haliburton was likely a Scottish knight still fighting on the English side and could have been returning a big favor.

  • @jpacker7977
    @jpacker7977 3 роки тому +1

    Case study in poor military discipline. Presumably, these men were educated and both spoke and read Latin. You would think they had read the classics. That they could be ambushed in camp dicking around like that is astonishing. They should have built a fortified and guarded camp complete with a palisade with a set watch. Scouts should have been set to watch the enemy at all times. The men should have been camped in good order with pre-designated deployment positions in the line of battle. With the enemy so close at hand, every tenth man should have been kept under arms. When the English took to the field, it should have been the Scots waiting in ambush. That Robert went on to win the war is simply amazing after such a poor display. That he had his wife and family with him in the field it utterly bewildering. I would have hidden my wife and child in the deepest darkest hole in Scotland, or better yet, sent them to France so I could do what I must unencumbered.

    • @wallyjansen898
      @wallyjansen898 Рік тому

      His wife was betrayed when fleeing north and Imprisond for years. Also his daughter and sister. The English were savage in their treatment of the poor women.

  • @navigator5426
    @navigator5426 3 роки тому

    Great post. I think Robert the Bruce was a blooming idiot for being that lax on the march with his forces, a major tactical mistake that could have cost him his life. And the fact that Balliol, Comyn and Douglas were all vying for the Crown of Scotland reminds me that Ambition that is not tempered by Wisdom is foolish.

  • @davidstephen2015
    @davidstephen2015 3 роки тому

    It’s still 55% (at least).

  • @BarryHWhite
    @BarryHWhite 3 роки тому

    Another braw video Brucie boy, keep it up man. Check ur hand signals m8. "A Cummins you just... Wanked"?!?. Didny ken "THE BRUCE" was that way inclined. Lol.

  • @thelastdruidofscotland
    @thelastdruidofscotland 3 роки тому

    iv got "how evil must the english be ?" as my ringtone.

  • @hotelsierra86
    @hotelsierra86 3 роки тому

    Why do all the main players have Norman names? Like the pet mouse btw.

    • @wallyjansen898
      @wallyjansen898 Рік тому

      Because they were English and came to Scotland with David I.

  • @gondogeek
    @gondogeek 3 роки тому +1

    Why is he called Robert The Bruce and not Robert Bruce?