Minimalism vs. Refinement: Tesla Model Y vs. Audi Q4 e-tron

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  • Опубліковано 24 лис 2024

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  • @jeremy4925
    @jeremy4925 Рік тому +37

    Fantastic and fair review. I ordered a Q4 and completely discounted the Tesla until I drove one at Tesla dealer. I was so impressed I cancelled my Q4 order and bought the Tesla. It's been 6 months and I love it so much. I still love the Q4's styling better though.

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  Рік тому +5

      I bought the Q4 and love it, too, but the Tesla is damn good

    • @walex19
      @walex19 Рік тому +1

      That's usually all it takes.

    • @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
      @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 Рік тому +6

      Your experience is I am sure being repeated all over the world right now. Tesla are gaining market share at the expense of all the ICE based OEMs but it is the German premium brands who are suffering the most. We all know how bad VW Group software is but no one is close to Tesla in the efficiency of the electric drive train. Germany and Japan may make some of the best combustion engines in the world but it is rapidly becoming a case of...who cares!?

    • @maheshkandhadai75
      @maheshkandhadai75 8 місяців тому +2

      Tesla is noisy.. not a quiet cabin. Audi is way ahead on this one feature.

  • @henners88
    @henners88 Рік тому +8

    We are waiting for our Q4 E-Tron 40 Black Edition Sportback, which is due early July. I can appreciate Tesla lead the way in regard to innovative infotainment experiences, but the aesthetics and the general feel inside the cabin for me just doesn’t match a level I am used to with German cars. I’m not fussed on the minimalist feel and the lack of physical buttons to go with the touchscreen experience. The Q4 has buttons for the heated seats, and cabin temperature settings which I think are important to be at easy access for the driver. Both decent cars though but the Q4 won it for me.

  • @deplorablechump8758
    @deplorablechump8758 Рік тому +8

    Great review. As a new MY owner, I am relatively satisfied with it. It does come “empty”, so a few cheap accessories such as all weather floor mats and covers will make it clean and easy to maintain.

  • @jeanbergeron6451
    @jeanbergeron6451 Рік тому +5

    I really liked the way you did your video. It is concise and very interesting to watch.

  • @trisectdevelopment
    @trisectdevelopment Рік тому +5

    I was also choosing between Tesla and Audi Q4. I choose the Audi because I just cannot have a car with just one screen in the middle, and nothing behind the wheel.
    As far as interior in my opinion the Audi wins. So this friday I will get my Audi.

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  Рік тому

      Enjoy, great car!

    • @KS-qy5lt
      @KS-qy5lt Рік тому +1

      I think you are the only person who would choose interior of the audi…. Thought it was an ancient relic. I would have chosen audi if they had anything close to tesla interior

    • @garyblack9332
      @garyblack9332 9 місяців тому

      Much preferred the Audi’s interior. Purchased Q4 fastback

  • @kensai7
    @kensai7 Рік тому +9

    Wow! I could have ordered this very comparison! I wanted the Q4 e-tron Sportback so badly, but I had to cancel my order as the deliveries were so much delayed. I still feel the Audi has a better overall quality and driving behavior, but the tech proposition of the Tesla is amazing. Both are amazing at this segment.

  • @gillesh.9405
    @gillesh.9405 Рік тому +25

    I had a Audi Q4 for 4 months but returned it and got a Model Y 2023. 0 regrets here. While the Audi is luxury everywhere, the UI and software is shit and the driving assist sucks. Also range was way worse on Q4. + had a terrible experience ordering a Q4, waited over 1.5 years to get mine and missed few options I really wanted and audi kept pushing back the delivery date and asking me if I was OK to remove stuff like electric seats etc to get it faster which is pathetic. Q4 was beautiful though but just not for me. If you care about assisted driving and good software get Tesla

    • @harveyrng2706
      @harveyrng2706 4 місяці тому

      Our Audi q4 has 320 miles range, the technology and software is absolutely brilliant! The way the car pulls off is incredibly fast!!! It’s sooo smooth to drive. Very comfortable and definitely a premium vehicle. I don’t know what version of the q4 you’ve had but our range is brilliant, way more than Tesla range.

  • @Semmy-bv7ph
    @Semmy-bv7ph Рік тому +9

    I have driven 150.000km with my Tesla and never been to the dealer for service. Simply because it is not necessary. Only thing I had for service was a new interior filter and wipers. And Tesla service is doing that at your house! It outperformce Audi. So more dealerships doesnt say anything.

    • @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
      @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 Рік тому

      There was no Tesla that met my needs (hatchback) or price points when I got the Kia e-Niro in 2019 but have to say my experience has been one of total reliability and tiny running costs over 80,000 km and 4 years. Last year I covered 85% of my 19,500 km of driving from the solar panels on my roof. When Tesla make a smaller car I will be interested for sure.

  • @WhatTheFlipOfficial
    @WhatTheFlipOfficial Рік тому +7

    I never wanted a Tesla until I drove one. I came from manuals, sports cars, DCTs, M3, M4, X6M, Cayenne GTS, Cayman, Abarths and more. The Model Y is a perfect sized car, any smaller and it'd be uncomfortable and any bigger it'd feel like a boat. The build quality, at least for the newer ones made in China, is perfect. I don't know personally how bad the build qualities were before 2023 models, but I have friends who hated theirs. I've test driven the Ioniq 5, EV6, GV60, PHEV X5, PHEV Panamera, PHEV Cayenne, PHEV Toyotas and the Model Y is simply MILES ahead of the competition in every way possible. Sure, it's a bit bland looking inside and out, but the parts that REALLY matter like convenience, driving and controls are unbeatable. That being said, I am now a happy owner of the Model Y.

  • @hsiu1984
    @hsiu1984 Рік тому +5

    I love this clear and concise comparison. More importantly, what's under Audi's front hood is just mind blowing... It is much messier than those Toyota and Nissan cars...

  • @แม่เปรี้ยวพาไปเที่ยว

    I still prefer German car, next month I will receive my Q4. Can’t wait for it

  • @peterpage7322
    @peterpage7322 Рік тому +4

    I agree with all your comments apart from the warranty / service point that you glossed over. The Tesla has a long warranty which generally gets repaired on your driveway if indeed you actually have a problem, whereas the Audi is a 3 year warranty apart from the battery. I had a model 3 that had 2 faulty headlights that were changed on my drive in a morning. Apart from that it was faultless. I also have a Audi RS GT which has done 7k miles and Audi Caffyns have nearly had it in their workshops more than I have had it on the road. That’s acceptable before the warranty runs out but could be very costly after that! It looks great and is quick, but Audi have a lot to do before they catch up with Tesla. I even asked them to buy it back because it kept letting us down and they said they had too much car stock??? 😳 Would I buy another Audi………No!

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  Рік тому +2

      Thank you for your comments. I went to a Tesla repair & service center and it was chaos, and they were overwhelmed by the number of repairs. Tesla's growth has been significant and I assume they have difficulty in scaling up service capacity

    • @peterpage7322
      @peterpage7322 Рік тому +4

      @@morten_hannesbo Interesting. I live in the UK and have found the opposite with Tesla, whereas when my Audi failed to charge, I rang Caffyns Audi and they were booked up for 2 weeks solid. That’s not much use to me when I live out in the country and I spent over 130k on a car that does not charge after doing only 7000miles! I feel that Audi rushed the Etron production trying to keep up with the likes of Tesla when they should have refined it first. The Tesla model 3 on the other hand seems very reliable with a fantastic range but falls short on interior quality. I would have purchased a model S plaid had they been available but it seems they are not making this model in RHD.

  • @shilpapatel9741
    @shilpapatel9741 Рік тому +6

    I never wanted Tesla. But I ordered after the price dropped and been driving for few months and I love it. But I still believe model y should be around $45k.

    • @chandanaguntur2614
      @chandanaguntur2614 Рік тому

      I mean currently it’s like 47k for standard range

    • @jriley-tv1on
      @jriley-tv1on 9 місяців тому

      And getting cheaper. $7500 tax incentive as well

  • @MajorTom546
    @MajorTom546 Рік тому +1

    Excellent, concise review. I feel bad for Audi here. No contest in my opinion. Love my model Y.

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  Рік тому

      Two very different cars, there are customers for both. Just happens to be 10x more customers for Model Y.

  • @garyblack9332
    @garyblack9332 9 місяців тому +2

    Purchased Q4 2/24/24

  • @Abebe345
    @Abebe345 Рік тому +4

    Great pithy commentary. For feedback I would add a bit of video of each car on each point, for example on room, show clips what each has, or charging, show the chargers and some screen shots, or luxury, focus the camera on something the Audi does well like stitching. Still concise but clips demonstrating each point would take it next level.

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  Рік тому +1

      Thx for your comment. We decided to keep this video very short - for more in-depth info please see the two other videos on my channel on Tesla MY and Audi Q4

    • @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
      @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 Рік тому +1

      Stitching!...You would buy a car based on how good the stitching on the seats is? All these German 'premium' brands are way behind Tesla and the Chinese when it comes to software and efficiency. They try to compensate by loading them up with enormous batteries but I'm afraid the inferiority still shines through. Audi may still be the best bet if ride and refinement are your most important thing, Tesla need to do some work there but stitching? 😂

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  Рік тому

      Thank you, noted!

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  Рік тому +1

      @@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 😂I love a good seat, Tesla can do much better here

  • @bitcoinman9202
    @bitcoinman9202 Рік тому +2

    I’ll take minimalism

  • @jackstar3653
    @jackstar3653 Рік тому +3

    Audi is a better overall car. Tesla is good but quality is a compromise

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  Рік тому

      I own the Q4 e-tron and yes, I prefer it over the Tesla, but I understand why Tesla Model Y is selling so well. My sons would choose the Tesla...

  • @JonesJones-np2kq
    @JonesJones-np2kq Рік тому +1

    It's quite strange, but when I compare the Tesla Model Y and the Audi Q4, the pricing for a 2023 model seems to be almost identical here in the US.

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  Рік тому +1

      That is typical for the German brands, but extreme for Audi. Audi does offer free servicing for 10 years which is worth approx 4%.

  • @LawpickingLocksmith
    @LawpickingLocksmith 11 місяців тому +1

    Now AMAG has placed a Bounty on you just like Salman Rushdie did from from Iran. Btw Spaltmasse only matter when you shop at the Langstrasse.

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  11 місяців тому

      😄I doubt that, but just to be sure I also tested the Audi Q4 e-tron:
      ua-cam.com/video/qhAyloUtaFY/v-deo.html

  • @minmo1992
    @minmo1992 Рік тому +5

    Choice is simple. If you want an ev for the range, performance, charging network and the tech that it has to offer then there is none superior to tesla. If you are buying an ev for the interior and exterior look and feel and sacrifice everything else an ev has to offer then what is the point of buying an ev. Just buy the gasoline counterpart. You will get much better luxury, comfort, handling and bang for your buck.

  • @numb15
    @numb15 Рік тому +2

    Chinese car manufacturers are expanding fast in to Europe. You should keep an eye on the BYD Atto 3 and the Zeekr X. The Zeekr in particular looks fantastic and has some really cool features that Tesla and Audi don’t have like retractable rear seats, removable refrigerator and arm rest, sliding infotainment screen etc (it’s being released first in Netherlands and Sweden).

  • @Saculmit
    @Saculmit Рік тому +3

    Many of the points awarded to the Q4 were considered marginal victories with the Tesla being very close. Changing those full points to half points make the scoring a little more accurate (according to the commentator's comments) would really show how far apart the 2 vehicles are. I own a 2023 Model 3 Performance and my wife owns a 2022 Q4 50 Prestige. In my personal opinion, the only real advantages that the Q4 has are that it doesn't look like an electric vehicle and the 4 ringed logo gives it perceived value. Much of the Q4 interior uses cheap feeling piano black (fingerprint and dust magnet) plastic. Don't get me wrong, Tesla also uses plenty of cheap feeling materials. Both should be better for the price. As most electric vehicle owners know, the amount of physical service needed is minimal and after dealing with the Audi dealership buying process and Tesla buying process, give me a Tesla center any day of the week. The real key to Tesla and service are the over the air updates. Audi has apparently begun to change to OTA, but if you don't already have it, expect your vehicle to be in the shop for multiple DAYS while they do the update. I suspect that any updates that do come will be minimal while Tesla is constantly updating cars that are 5+ years old with new features. If you really want an Audi, the early reviews of the Q8 (obviously more money) look solid.

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  Рік тому

      Thx for your comments

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  Рік тому

      I like the Audi Q4 but it is way too expensive. I tested the Q8 e-tron 50 and it is excellent (see my other video).

  • @henrikrydell6401
    @henrikrydell6401 Рік тому +1

    Could you please do the same
    comparison beteween the Q4 and the ID4 and Skoda Enyaq?

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  Рік тому

      Will try to do this after the summer, want to wait for the refreshed models and software updates. My opinion on the Enyaq is that it would compare very favourably to the Q4 with ID.4 ending on 3rd place.

  • @armdrk3233
    @armdrk3233 6 місяців тому +1

    Audi looks way better both outside and inside,but Tesla is technically the better EV.

  • @BMH1965
    @BMH1965 Рік тому

    Most Audi Q4 E Tron sales will be the 45, not 55 (2024 model year), but the same for the 40 over the 50 - so don't use the 50 as the bench mark against the Tesla.

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  Рік тому

      Hmmm, When comparing power and 4x4 traction why would one not compare the 50 or 55 to the Model Y dual motor.....?

  • @bulls_hit
    @bulls_hit Рік тому

    I own both cars and where Tesla has soft premium surfaces and materials the Audi has hard plastic at the lower door panels, cannot see where the Audi offers a better premium feeling than Tesla.

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  Рік тому +3

      Hello, some of the lower spec Q4 e-tron are quite basic. I am comparing with the high spec S-line e-tron 50 quattro. The Q4 leather seats are much better than Tesla's artificial leather seats, the noise level is lower, the refinement of the suspension is much better, and the instrument panel is more contemporary, and the steering wheel, too. The Tesla steering wheel is just too cheap for the car.

  • @_beaker
    @_beaker Рік тому

    "Warranty, service and maintenance" - Not one word about maintenance costs, just about service experience. Service experience claims are accurate.

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  Рік тому

      Pls can you be more specific?

    • @_beaker
      @_beaker Рік тому +1

      @@morten_hannesbo Of cause. You announced the category with the words "Warranty, service and maintenance COSTS". And the non-existent regular maintenance costs at Tesla are a special feature worth mentioning. Nothing wild, but for me that is a remarkable point. All other facts are 100% accurate. Thank you very much for being neutral!
      Die nächste Unterhaltung können wir auch gerne auf deutsch führen. Wobei es für die internationalen Zuschauer wohl so besser nachvollziehbar ist. 🙂

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  Рік тому

      @@_beaker 👍Lieben Dank.
      Der Q4 e-tron hat ASSP Gratisservice bis 10J oder 100'000 KM.
      Ich habe den Service bei Tesla hautnah erlebt, war sehr enttäuschend. Die Servicemitarbeiter waren total überfordert.
      Die Audi Händler bieten generell einen sehr guten Service.

  • @robbymccloskey
    @robbymccloskey Рік тому +1

    Good review but not quite in agreement. Interior design and quality, Audi way more superior, not 1 point superior but two to three points superior. Suspension, Audi's suspension way way more superior, again, not 1 point superior but two to three points superior. Overall quality of construction, no doubt Audi is superior. Acceleration should not have been compared as it is a programable thing and they are programmed different. Charging, well, again, it is a program thing, so not comparable. For me when including these they are very well in balance in points and at least to me they should be similar but different at the same time.

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  Рік тому

      Hi Robby, thx for commenting. The Q4 is my privately owned car and my family and I love it. We also have an Audi RS7 in the family and previously we had A8, Q3, Q7, Q8, RS6 and others. The Q4 e-tron is built in Zwickau at a VW factory on the same line as the ID.4 from VW, and you clearly see that the Audi has VW quality and fit and finish, a lot of hard plastics, and it is not at the level of other Audis. Build quality is good, but the perceived quality is below e.g. an A6 or A4. If you want the high Audi quality in a BEV you will have to go for the Q8 e-tron. The comparison with Tesla Y is interesting, especially as I tested the 2023 (May production) Tesla Y longrange this week (video to follow). The Tesla build quality and ride comfort is now at the level of VW ID.4/5 and Audi Q4 e-tron. There is a reason why Tesla outsells everyone else in the BEV segment (Tesla Y sold 15x more than Audi Q4 e-tron in 2023!). I'll still keep the lovely Q4 e-tron, but do mind the gap to Tesla, which has nearly disappeared.

  • @tristantaranis7411
    @tristantaranis7411 6 місяців тому +1

    If you don't take the sport seat in the Audi model you will get a terrible experience! This is totally unacceptable for the price we paid for this car.
    We have this car since more than 8 months and the basic seats are really not comfortable. It's the worst experience in terms of comfort since my first car in 1994!
    My wife and I have back pain whenever we drive the car for more than 1 hour. Other people we know have exactly the same opinion about the poor comfort of the seats.
    Audi gets lost in its different packs which are sometimes not compatible with each other...

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  6 місяців тому

      Sorry to hear this. We have the sport seat and that is very comfy

  • @wilkoone9155
    @wilkoone9155 Рік тому +3

    I agree with #SandyMunroe why buy the Audi when the Skoda Enyaq is the same car but cheaper?

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  Рік тому

      Only worth it if the Audi brand is worth something for you. Both cars are great.

    • @wilkoone9155
      @wilkoone9155 Рік тому

      @@morten_hannesbo not really interested in brands if the engineering and parts are the same.

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  Рік тому

      @@wilkoone9155 Essentially all cars share components from Bosch, Continental, Faurecia etc etc. The platform strategies take this a step further, VW Group and Stellantis are masters of this discipline. Now, when you drive a Skoda Enyaq up against the VW ID.4 or the Audi Q4 e-tron then you think these are three different cars, and most people do not care if the electric motors and the battery is shared technology.

  • @roborat2000
    @roborat2000 Рік тому

    Tesla is disrupting the car industry. The fact that their cars get continuous software updates and excellent phone integration via it's app is making other car companies think about their business model. Remember how much it cost to get a sat/nav map updates on your car? Over $300!

  • @HansKeesom
    @HansKeesom Рік тому +1

    The audi had many marginals wins...... and still looses 4-7

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  Рік тому

      math...

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  Рік тому

      The Audi Q4 is great but Tesla MY beats it with some margin based on rational arguments. I still chose to buy the Q4 (the one in the YT video is my own car) because of its refinement.

  • @BMH1965
    @BMH1965 Рік тому

    Tesla complete lack of product quality control stops many people buying this car. The central screen in the Tesla is DANGEROUS. Audi needs to find space for a front trunk - when the boot is full you cannot get to the cables!!!

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  Рік тому

      👍

    • @morten_hannesbo
      @morten_hannesbo  Рік тому

      I am currently testing the Model 3 highland, very very good in terms of quality, fit and finish. And drives well, too.

  • @BMH1965
    @BMH1965 Рік тому

    The data analysis is all wrong as a concept - cars are for driving. The Audi is the better car to drive and be driven in.
    HOWEVER. The biggest issue with these cars (all electric cars): battery life. All EV cars will need their battery replacing between 8 and 16 years - and no-one can tell you the cost. DO NOT BUY A USED EV.

  • @irekfilms
    @irekfilms Рік тому

    Audi 0
    Tesla 10

  • @kb8570
    @kb8570 Рік тому +1

    The Tesla is 10 years ahead on software. Audi is like Nokia.

  • @freddyfischer9133
    @freddyfischer9133 Рік тому +1

    What? Audi design is conservative ???? I am a automobile designer and a german architekt of industrial design, like the bauhaus and the Ulmer School in Germany. Audi makes a progressive automobile design-language with a individual light-design. The Tesla disign is easy and boring, like the chinese fake-designs. Look at the Tesla Light-design and of course the ugly Wheel-design: just boring. No extravagant design-language. Typical american style. Tesla cars quality is bad, since the begin. The technical development of hardware is catastrophal. The Service-Center-structure is very very bad in Germany. The software is good, but the rest..??

    • @ghostrider_2005
      @ghostrider_2005 Рік тому +1

      Conservative as in, the vehicle sticks more to original vehicle designs as their fossil-fuel counterparts whilst Tesla and some other brands really go for a futuristic/minimalistic look. Besides, you might not like the design of Tesla, but the minimalistic design is actually one of the main selling points for some people. The tech, performance and clean interior/exterior has become a strong competitor on the market. It just depends on personal choice. Usually you just have to decide between luxury/comfort and performance/tech, but if you truly want the best bang for your buck when it comes to EV's, Tesla is still the way to go. The build quality the last year or so has improved tremendously, the drive assist is better and it provides more features for the money. I'm personally looking at Audi/BMW, but the price is just not comparable atm. You pay a lot more to gain comfort and lose pretty much everything else that makes ev's interesting.