Eyes Wide Shut - Absolute Power ?
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- Опубліковано 24 тра 2015
- Did Kubrick's last film point to a massive conspiracy, or that there is no conspiracy, or something completely different?
Partly inspired by many things including probably the best review ever - 'Introducing Sociology' by Tim Krieder.
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Maybe I should have put 'a party he attended', but it was late. - Розваги
Ziegler is the guy convincing you what you saw was not what you saw
Head J.
It's called gaslighting
The gaslighter
Bill mixes up the two places the Party and the House: "Was she the woman at the party? You called it a charade." (It was the house that Ziegler called a charade.)
Now everyone is
It's weird how he reassures Bill that the girls death was only an accidental overdose then he turns around and says "Listen Bill. I don't think you realize how much trouble you were in last night. Who do you think those people were?"
Well, he's pretty much saying to him that the police is under their control (whoever they are) and bad things aren't happening to Bill only because of the kindness that has been extended to him. And that this kindness can stop if he won't stop acting foolish.
It wasn't the Party that Ziegler called a charade, it was the House.
Stanley died the day after this was made from a "heart attack." This scene is an exact mirror of that. Someone dies, someone else gaslights everyone into believing it was normal.
Thank you
He made a movie that people were not meant to see
@@chucktempalski2572 Kind of, but its in a league of its own in a way. One has a hard time drawing one conclusion of it. The article announcing the dead women in eyes wide shut was written by the same reporter (apparently Kubrick hired him to have authentic newspaper writing) who wrote his death announcement article. They are written in the same way. Both state that they were seen before their deaths happy and in good moods, and that their death wasn't suspicious. Obviously we know the girl was killed to protect the secret society, was Kubricks article coincidence? One thing seems true; Kubrick baited the audience in the build up to the the movie with a sex filled orgy type movie featuring Nicole Kidman and tom cruise, a look into the sex life of a sexy couple. what we got was more a look into the sex world of the super elites and the secret society's power that runs them. He makes this clear in the only scene Kubrick himself is in. When the piano player is telling tom about this crazy sex orgy he should come to see, Kubrick as an extra looks directly into the Camera and at the actors as they come in. This is a no-no for extras. Kubrick is nothing if not meticulous in his movies, and was dressed in the same color suit as the piano player was to make the point. He was the piano player in this sense, we our tom cruise. You know what's crazy? i think he's making two equally disturbing points in this movie. The other is about the jealousy that exists in relationships, how sensitive we men are to our women wanting other men(it's profoundly painful when you are truly committed to a women as a man, it demascilates you along with other things ) and how women seem powerless to not feel this way eventually. Its like he's saying as long as you base self worth on sex your going to be tormented for it, and he shows us two extremes. One the elites, the other ideal looking families.
@@allencampbell1058 so why did they release it?
@@billyjesus5442 hiding in plain sight?
“There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact.”
-Sherlock Holmes
Victor actually tries to open Bill's eyes but when he is convinced that the truth is too much for him to handle he keeps them close for him
It wasn't the Party that Ziegler called a charade, it was the House.
He says, "Do you know who all those people were last night? If I told you, you wouldn't be able to sleep at night, if you knew." In "The Shining" the hotel manager tells Jack, "All the best people have stayed here." President's, movie stars, socialites, world leaders? Meaning ......
ALL THE WORST PEOPLE
"Great party, isn't it?"
Ever noticed how it isn't the Party that Ziegler "calls a charade", it's the House?
They're not people at all. The whole movie is about Satanism. Those are demons. Nick is the devil and Zeigler is God and Bill is Jesus. The hooker who died was Mary
Vic was spooky as he explained Mandy's fate. Bill felt so much guilt.
Guilt for accusing Ziegler or for Mandy?
@@xxcolor-my-se4xx361 , it looked like a combination of the two.
This Scene no doubt are talks behind the veil of deceptive black mail that goes on / Politicians Globally and on Many Levels un spoken...
This is the BEST scene of the whole movie. I love this movie. It's a brilliant masterpiece. I watch it several times/week!
Ever noticed how it isn't the Party that Ziegler calls a charade, it's the House?
The best scene? Better than the whole ritual, fidelio, esoteric music and “remove your clothes” bit? Naaaah
Why didn't Bill ask Zeigler what happened to Nick Nightingale? He disappeared after showing up to his hotel beat up, escorted by two tough looking guys and tried to pass a note to the hotel clerk. Where exactly is he at now? Is he even still alive?
Ziegler does say Nick was roughed up a bit for being the one who told Bill everything and that it was the least he deserved, but he was put on a plane alive and well and sent home. Guess this was enough for Bill!
@@NasCostomano You would think Bill would tell Zeigler that once he talks with Nick, then he will believe the rest of Zeigler's story.
@@cgh7337 yes, Bill just in the end left with more questions.
@@cgh7337 There was a very complete analysis of the movie where they explained that Nick and Bill are the same characters, (metaphorical speaking) Its a shame it was taken down, in resume: both Bill and Alice had been part of the secret society for their whole life just that "in a sense" they left those experiences being inside their subconsciousness
@@juanmartinez-tj1bk Haha..no way. Stay off the weed
It was Noam Chomsky wearing a Henry Kissinger mask.
What was Kubrick trying to tell us before he died?
Funniest comment I’ve ever seen. You win.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ever noticed how it isn't the Party that Ziegler "called a charade", it's the House?
The story that Bill tells is for the 'normal people.' Because the normal everyday ppl are not part of that elite group. Only they can know what happened and it's for everyone else to go by the appearances. It's a perspective of God vs man. God knows everything, man can only go by what he himself witnesses or what God tells him happened. To me this movie isn't so much about conspiracy or the possibility of conspiracy, it's that there is a difference between the average joe and those at the top of the food chain. Man has no place among the gods, he wouldn't understand what goes on because he himself isn't a god.
World's top dogs aren't gods either. They think they are. That's not a good thing. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
its in a league of its own in a way. One has a hard time drawing one conclusion of it. The article announcing the dead women in eyes wide shut was written by the same reporter (apparently Kubrick hired him to have authentic newspaper writing) who wrote his death announcement article. They are written in the same way. Both state that they were seen before their deaths happy and in good moods, and that their death wasn't suspicious. Obviously we know the girl was killed to protect the secret society, was Kubricks article coincidence? One thing seems true; Kubrick baited the audience in the build up to the the movie with a sex filled orgy type movie featuring Nicole Kidman and tom cruise, a look into the sex life of a sexy couple. what we got was more a look into the sex world of the super elites and the secret society's power that runs them. He makes this clear in the only scene Kubrick himself is in. When the piano player is telling tom about this crazy sex orgy he should come to see, Kubrick as an extra looks directly into the Camera and at the actors as they come in. This is a no-no for extras. Kubrick is nothing if not meticulous in his movies, and was dressed in the same color suit as the piano player was to make the point. He was the piano player in this sense, we our tom cruise. You know what's crazy? i think he's making two equally disturbing points in this movie. The other is about the jealousy that exists in relationships, how sensitive we men are to our women wanting other men(it's profoundly painful when you are truly committed to a women as a man, it demascilates you along with other things ) and how women seem powerless to not feel this way eventually. Its like he's saying as long as you base self worth on sex your going to be tormented for it, and he shows us two extremes. One the elites, the other ideal looking families.
"door was locked from the inside" 🤔
Trained by Ziegler to do this. Who btw did not lock his bathroom door, but pretends to wanna keep cheating secret.
Bill mixes up the two places the Party and the House: "Was she the woman at the party? You called it a charade." (It was the house that Ziegler called a charade.)
In the book, Bill has courage. In the film, he is afraid.
Bill is Afraid
door locked on the inside means nothing if someone else has a key and a key locks and unlocks equally.
Locked from the inside means the last one to close the door was inside, meaning no one can get out, so if the victim is alone, means it should be suicide......problem is you CAN close doors from the outside having the key inside..........his explanation was more like "Don't worry Bill. They will NEVER CAUGHT US, police will not investigate anything, we are safe.....now we can kill more hookers"
She was trained to do this by Ziegler who by the way did not lock his bathroom door, so why pretend to want it to stay just between the two of them?
Btw, ever noticed how it isn't the Party that Ziegler "called a charade", it's the House?
This guy spoke the world "Bill" a billion times
In my opinion, his wife Alice would have cheated on him sooner or later (not just in her dreams). Apparently, she constantly fantasized about sex with other men and even wanted to leave Bill and her daughter because of one! She even thought that when a doctor treats his patient, it was connected to sexual fantasies! Apparently she only thought about sex.
Bill was the complete opposite of her. He loved Alice completely and was content with their marriage and was not interested in other women - which wasn't the case with Alice. Maybe Bill was too boring for her. For me, Bill and Alice weren't a dream couple. Bill was the quiet, loyal husband, while Alice was the woman who liked to flirt and think of other men and had a big mouth. A quiet, reserved woman would have suited Bill better, and a man who was very imaginative sexually would have suited Alice better. Maybe it would have been better for her if she hadn't had a steady relationship at all.
polar opposites attract each other. im also quiet and introvert and extroverted crazy girls like me. sometime i like it but in the big picture its a tragedy, because its always doomed...
its in a league of its own in a way. One has a hard time drawing one conclusion of it. The article announcing the dead women in eyes wide shut was written by the same reporter (apparently Kubrick hired him to have authentic newspaper writing) who wrote his death announcement article. They are written in the same way. Both state that they were seen before their deaths happy and in good moods, and that their death wasn't suspicious. Obviously we know the girl was killed to protect the secret society, was Kubricks article coincidence? One thing seems true; Kubrick baited the audience in the build up to the the movie with a sex filled orgy type movie featuring Nicole Kidman and tom cruise, a look into the sex life of a sexy couple. what we got was more a look into the sex world of the super elites and the secret society's power that runs them. He makes this clear in the only scene Kubrick himself is in. When the piano player is telling tom about this crazy sex orgy he should come to see, Kubrick as an extra looks directly into the Camera and at the actors as they come in. This is a no-no for extras. Kubrick is nothing if not meticulous in his movies, and was dressed in the same color suit as the piano player was to make the point. He was the piano player in this sense, we our tom cruise. You know what's crazy? i think he's making two equally disturbing points in this movie. The other is about the jealousy that exists in relationships, how sensitive we men are to our women wanting other men(it's profoundly painful when you are truly committed to a women as a man, it demascilates you along with other things ) and how women seem powerless to not feel this way eventually. Its like he's saying as long as you base self worth on sex your going to be tormented for it, and he shows us two extremes. One the elites, the other ideal looking families.
I think this is a movie about class relationships, as seen through both male and female lens. Middle class Bill and his wife can't handle the severity of power dynamics happening in the elite circles. Sacrifices, sex trafficking, drug trade, sex with minors, blackmailing, unimaginable wealth, seemingly otherworldly secrecy. They're equal amount jealous and repulsed by it. And in a realistic fashion, Bill doesn't even encounter the real elites, the old powerful families, he only encounters their hoffaktor Ziegler who runs a Masonic lodge for them. Because that's the extent to which middle class people can see that world.
Speaking of Kubrick, freemasonry and conspiracy theories, Buzz Aldrin is a high degree mason. That doesn't help to shun conspiracy theories away, I say...
Dogmatic though isnt it? Everybody wants others. Its human nature. Doing everything one wants though is another story.
Yeah.
The ritual might represent the desire of Bill for unholy things lol but then he is not ready and thus gets expelled - goes back to normal life.
Btw it is known that freems blackmail each other into fkg other members wife to be sure of their devotion to the cause.
Ever noticed how it isn't the Party that Ziegler calls a charade, it's the House?
@@runarvollan maybe he thought tom cruise came because he wanted to talk about his wife ?
What he is trying to tell Bill in this entire stunning scene is that reality is not what happened. Reality is what the formal documented account produced by, the official ideology and power structure, says it is.
I really wanna know what did happen to nick nightingale after he left the party then the hotel
He's banging Mrs. Nick.
Dead
Yes, he was put on a plane and is probably at home with his wife. According to Ziegler anyway.
@@mr.nibblenips4231 At least that's what Ziegler wants Bill and us to beleive.😒
I think they took him to the Bush, killed him and buried the evidence. He knew too much and almost single handedly exposed a secret billionaire cult. Of course that has to be dealt with in the most severe manner. The Crimson Guardian makes it plain when he makes his threat.
20 mins cut from the film Sydney Pollack re edited it....how ironic
should have rewinded it back to when they talked about nick. there's an end table that appears everytime ziegler lies to dr bill. its there when he says nick was flown out to seattle and that he's 'probably banging ms nick', then it disappeared after a split second when dr bill told ziegler that he knew nick had a bruise on his face. the likely truth is that nick was killed too.
Look at the gold wall decorations at 4:35. On the left, something sort of like a Star of David behind the green light. On the right, a human male profile. Something like one of the masked party goers. Big nose. Subliminal images.
Ever noticed how it isn't the Party that Ziegler "called a charade", it's the House?
There's also the decapitated head on a plate held by children in the painting behind the 2 masked slave ladies "licking" each other on the table.
*I like the part when Mel Gibson says, “We must defend the founding fathers.” That gave me chills. I also think Owen Wilson did an amazing job! He probably gave the most accurate portrayal of a trans woman turned man role I’ve ever seen!*
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@@caeserornothing *I agree. I’m not too certain on my assessment of Owen Wilson’s performance. I guess time will tell how his portrayal holds up to the test of time.*
@Brian.N Dude are you OK
@@caeserornothing *On second thought, I reckon Mel Gibson gave the best portrayal of a closeted homosexual father any man can do. The emotional scene during the sex change procedure had me crying. Do you concur?*
Yea because we can trust a dude whose last name is zeigler (sarcasm)
Amazing scene. The newspaper on coffee table at opening of scene appears and disappears, billiard balls are shown in different positions from EDIT to edit. These are NOT continuity errors, as Kubrick was meticulous. These are signs that not all is as it appears. Deception of Ziegler is key as he speaks only truth when he is surrounded by lights and white ball is close to him. The people at the orgy are the same people at the party at beginning of film. Makes sense as both times we know Nick pianist was there, and beautiful women, and questionable as to whether Hungarian dancing with Alice is the Crimson Guardian. He seems like an hypnotist how he speaks to Alice. When Alice goes into the Looking Glass she falls under the rainbow into fantasy land, that's when Tom becomes obsessed with the fidelity, or fidelio. He literally gets his mask under the rainbow, the costume shop, and again finds a woman who wants him. Every woman he encounters in his odyssey that night wants him .... but its all in his mind as he is obsessed with what Alice told him about her fantasy with the sailor. It's a film about the fantasy of deception in marriage. And how we experience states of dream consciousness. The film may be all in Alice's mind. She is living in a fantasy world and drags her husband into it subconsciously with Eyes Wide Shut which is the waking dream state.
The Ziegler deception and truth theory conflicts with the all in Alice's mind story.
This fil mis NOT a fantasy. kkubrick wasnt murdered for a fantasy film. It was all exposure of what really goes on in order to please sailors and the rich illuminati types.
Kidmans eyes are also open on the movies poster while Cruises eyes are shut. Eyes wide shut literally 👁.
Ever noticed how it isn't the Party that Ziegler "called a charade", it's the House?
@@mariahyohannes Aaand their facial shadows and her hair makes a pyramid with her eye in the middle on top? Similar to the A Clockwork Orange poster.
The one who sacrifices for him is not mandy, Mandy is the one with the collar at the party i think
Nothing really happened at that party in the version of the movie that was released. It was just a big sex orgy. Bills reaction seems OTT based on the version of the movie we saw.
Ever noticed how it isn't the Party that Ziegler "called a charade", it's the House?
@@runarvollan No, I didn’t pick up on that. Good spot.
Yes but you've missed the entire plot line of the costume shop owner and his daughter knowing exactly where Bill was going, because they gave him the EXACT cape everyone else was wearing at the party and the kid gave Bill a tip on which cape to choose. They knew. And the shop owner was selling his daughter into child sex slavery. Make the connection between the two. A pedophile pimp guessed correctly where Bill was going.
They were alarmingly threatening when he appeared at the house too, giving him a warning and the Red Cloak unmasked gave him the death stare. If it was just an adults sex orgy, why are they keeping it all so secret? Why are they killing people? Why were they immediately on guard when Bill turned up in a taxi rather than a limo (because he's an outsider)?
Rothschild. Epstein. Henry Kissinger. All very powerful rich connected Jewish families with one major thing in common. The P word. And Kubrick knew. There's a reason Christmas decorations are everywhere in the movie BUT the house. Jews don't celebrate Christmas.
"Ziegler" - Lalo
I love this scene, but do we really need all the interruptions and the intellectual hand-holding? What is this, a scene from an R-rated film or a kindergarten class? God, give us just the scene; we can think for ourselves. How annoying. It's like the verbal equivalent of too much music in the background.
I agree. Interrupting this scene with that shit is worthy of the capital punishment.
Because of the copyright. Dumbo
Or...interrupt with actual analysis instead of describing what I just saw and heard for myself, and going on about the fcking Illuminati.
6 light bulbs illuminating the table, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Did we need all that commentary?
bot land the Rosy Cross and golden dawn is just rituals.Not as secret as you think.
Daniel 2:22
He reveale✝️h the deep and secret things🔍: he knoweth what is in the darkness🕯, and the light dwelleth with him.🌅
How much power does Ziegler has on Bill that everytime he calle him, he arrive without question? 3 times he called Bill, and he came like he didnt has any option.
Ever noticed how it isn't the Party that Ziegler "called a charade", it's the House?
@@runarvollan
What you mean?
Solution:
- It was a terrific PARTY the other night.
- At the HOUSE. I saw everything that went on.
Well, Bill, maybe you're MIXING something here:
- Was she the woman at the party?
- Yes (in Ziegler's bathroom).
- Well, would you mind telling me what kind of fvcking charade ends with somebody turning up dead?
Ziegler never called the party fake, only the house, much to his frustration.
I don't quite get what you're saying but there are 2 passwords, one for the house - so maybe you're onto something...?
@@NasCostomano I'm saying that Ziegler is a slave to karma, and can't lie, letting Bill mix up places in order to indirectly tell the truth.
"Was she the woman at the party?" meaning the first party where Bill and Alice had a wonderful time. Ziegler says yes to this, and then Bill says "Well, maybe I'm missing something here, you called it fake." But Ziegler didn't call the party place fake, only the house place. Try watching the scene again with this in mind.
@@credoratat3272 okay, thank you - this movie elicits so many interpretations!
@@NasCostomano It isn't the Party that Ziegler "called a charade", it's the House;-)
He is Bill Gates??
It's established earlier in the movie that Mandy IS a junkie, because she ODs in the bathroom at the party and Bill brings her around.
My theory? Mandy died of a drug overdose, no foul play, but their sick little elite group have indeed been responsible for other deaths and horrors.
He must walk with Jesus Halleluja!
mandy was
pregnant
gaslighting
Ziegler was the Red Cloak at the party
No he wasn't. He was the man on the balcony that nodded to Bill. The red cloak was the man at the gate who personally handed Bill the warning letter and gave him the death stare.
no
Just what the hell is this movie about? a sex club? A murder?
Haven’t seen it.. but from what I hissing it’s about love and understanding the person you are with.. but it also has a deeper meaning about elites in control and things like that
Sydney Pollock is a terrible actor.
Movie sucked.😎
Why? Because they're exposing you?...jk love your channel
Uncultured swine. 🖕🏽
Why because you're scared people are gonna find out you stuff your face with adrenochrome instead of just fast food
Jk love ya joey
thanks for the drive by shit post. You ignored all replies. JoeysWorldTourCoward.
i guess you didn't understand what you were seeing...
They say morality is a grey line. It will never be. There will always be good. And evil
What an un-nuanced, simple-minded and un-intellectual opinion. Your username is accurate.
Watching normies trying to analyze this movie is hilarious. You're all NPC's. If you were capable of analyzing the world, which you aren't, then you could analyze this movie.
"“Never, ever go near power. Don’t become friends with anyone who has real power. It’s dangerous.” -stanley kubrik
This was Cruise's failure in the movie. That's what the movie is about. He imagined that as a Doctor he was on the same level socially and could be friends with Zeigler, who had real power. All through the movie Cruise flaunts his status as a doctor and through the course of the movie, he learns he's so low on the totem pole that he's almost an insect compared to zeigler. Victor was toying with him the whole time.
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