Question : I have a dji mini 3 pro as it comes with the battery 249 g, I watched your video and when on the website did the theory and passed the test . I have to put the operator id in the drone and have my flyer id with me . im flying for recreation only so I don't need an insurance for that drone. question : what would be the next step ? is uk civil aviation authority , proof of completion valid anywhere to fly in Europe ? at the bottom it says a1 &a3 open sub category. ps: what's your location maybe we meet one day in march because im flying to Europe I don't have any friends there !
jeez.. sooooo much better than australias rules. :( im coming to uk from australia, do i need to register my drone with your uk authority? fantastic, clear concise video btw!
They need to hurry up and allow other apps on the RC so that we can put drone assist and UAV forecast on it UAV has a problem apparently they have updated to include the BeiDou satellites and it works on android and on the website but Apple have not used any of the dates that he sent to them so if you’re using an iPhone or an iPad you do not get the BeiDou satellites option
Flying in mist and fog is extremely important. I flew in a light fog once thinking it would be fine but even light mist can quickly cover the camera in specks of water making it very difficult to see
Many thx Sean for your insightful comments much appreciated. Just a question, I’ve joined FPVUK and have their public liability ins. would I be covered to take pictures of a roof with the owners permission, for a friend of mine who wants to clean his customers roof? I would be using Mavic mini 3 pro. -Ken
Thank you for this article. It was well presented and cleared up a lot of points in a clear and concise manner. One thing that I still am not sure about is this point in the code. “If your drone or model aircraft is fitted with a camera or listening device, you must respect other people’s privacy whenever you use them. If you use these devices where people can expect privacy, such as inside their home or garden, you’re likely to be breaking data protection laws.” I am sure privacy is the major concern of people in their homes and would be interested in your interpretation of this point. If I film flying over my village am I breaking data protection laws?
Data protection laws no not apply to individuals who are not processing personal data - although people will tell you they do. IANAL but if you publish the video of your "over the village flight" then you are clear but if you overlaid it with house numbers, street addresses, and peoples names than I suspect you would need to comply with data protection requirements.
Thanks for the info! Just to confirm, if I buy a mini 3 tomorrow and want to fly commercially, all I need is a operator ID & insurance? Or anything else? Thanks
Hey MrB! That covers it in legal terms. The insurance need to be EC compliant but any of the commercial insurance products on the market should have that.
I live in Denmark and have taken the European A1/A3 licenses (which seems to be the same as what you refer to). And yes, I have my pilot number printed on the M3P including contact information. And an insurance covering up to 1.000.000 Euros. So do I need to take the same license if I go and visit UK or does my European license cover it?
Hey Ole! You will unfortunately need to go through the process again here in the UK. Although the systems are currently similar, they are separate. For the Mavic 3, you will need an Operator and Flyer ID. Although for the Mini 3 Pro, you only need the Operator ID. Hope this helps.
@@Geeksvana I'm probably in the minority I that I read them before purchasing something, I've actually got a PDF copy of the user guide of a friend car😂
I've seen footage of the Mini 3 flying in rain already! Are they waterproofing it themselves? Can I buy a kit of little rubber parts that makes the drone work in the rain? Only asking because of what you said at the very end. If its not waterproof, its not really an upgrade on my Mini 1 in that respect, and I'll wait a lot longer and buy one broken, like I did my trusty, self fixed, Mini. 200 in Feb 2020 all in with Flymore batteries and controller, registered straight away with DJI, and cost me the price of one arm and a burnt finger (they have to be soldered to the main board)
Excellent introduction for a first time drone owner as to what the law requires. Delivered clearly and succinctly. A real help. Thanks Sean, much appreciated.
Hey! Sorry for the delayed response, one of those weeks!! To fly commercially with 250g to 500g you only need EC compliant insurance. To fly these drones in congested areas with zero separation of uninvolved people, you will need an A2 CofC but this is not specific to commercial flights. Hope this helps.
Top tip re helicopters too, but it’s not just emergency helicopters: also watch out for general aviation helicopters being flown badly. I was flying in the Chilterns last week and an R44 came through straight and level at about 50m above ground level and so I had to get my drone out the way very quickly.
Hey! You will need to gain an Operator ID and pass the Flyer ID test on the UK CAA site. Then you can fly the Phantom 4 in the A3 airspace. So, 150m from congested areas or uninvolved people. Perfect for Cornish countryside. Anything else would require a certificate.
I am waiting on the DJI Mini 3 Pro its my first drone , I have been watching a lot of your videos over the last few days , I decided to do the Flyer ID test and get everything in place before it arrives , you have been a great help as I had no idea all the things I need to do before flying one , I have the drone stickers on the way ,and I joined the BMFA drone flyers so the insurance is in place , I just wanted to say thanks and keep up the good work , its really helpful for people like me just starting out .
Question: What's going to happen with Mini 3 pro in regards to the classes by the end of this year (or 2023?) since it's not class certified yet? Will we be allowed to fly it close to people either for fun or for work with A2 CofC course, or it will fall into A3 category and get lost?
Hey Sam! Yes. Same rules if the drone flight is in the Open category. You just need to have commercial drone insurance in place, which is EC785/2004. Most commercial policies are compliant from companies like Coverdrone.
you cannot fly FPV and keep to the rules, yes you can have a spotter but the spotter also needs to understand rules and how many people take there other half that has no idea about rules and are elected the spotter, ever way no matter what you fly just fly safely, side note flying and crashing in the snow is cool
It actually says if it’s under 250 grams with a camera you need a flyer ID. Maybe it’s changed since recording of this video. Edit: my mistake and corrected
@@Geeksvana just checked and my mistake ! I must’ve misread that a few days ago and then went and got a flyer ID 😂 at least my mistake and now I’m a little bit more educated on drones 😂
I’m glad I’ve taken it and it does give you better knowledge and understanding. Your videos have been fantastic as a new beginner gaining knowledge through them as well. It’s good to have the flyer ID card to at least show you know something. You should create your own flyer ID the fountain of knowledge for the sub 250 class of drones 😂
I am coming to Britain for the purpose of tourism for a week and I would like to use the drone In my country, I have a permit from the Civil Aviation Authority what to do ? my drone ( DJI Air 2s )
Good content and is very concise. I am thinking of getting a DJI Pro 3, but I am a little nervous about all the rules in the UK that's has stopped me from getting one up until now!
hi there just asking if you have any video of drone bigger then 2kg as i got given a dji inspire 2 as my friend just upgraded to the dji inspire 3 and as this is a 3 to 4kg drone i dont know much about were to fly this as i had a few drone like the dji mini 2 and the dji marvarc pro and the rule a difftent for this type of drones since i last fly one in this class as i see lot of video on sub 250g drone but not many on drone over 2kg to 4 kg as there a not a relly many people fly drone other then profacion flying them from what people nomaly fly around i know is is a bit of a diffent subject but as i see at this moment there alot lot of people looking into buy these drone as there getting cheaper on the used market now
Hi there thanks for the information. Airspace control areas seem to be everywhere is it possible to fly in these up to 120 meters with a drone as most are flight paths by the looks of it they are in a white boarder on the app.
Great video, thank you. If flying a sub 250g drone, taking off and landing from a safe public space - are you allowed to fly over private property/land even if the private property/land has "no drone flying" signs on their land - obviously, not flying within a NFZ or NOTAM area. The drone code point 8 says you have to follow signage? Does that mean everyone can just put up a sign to prevent drone users?
Hey Martin! The Drone Code is an excellent form of guidance. But it is just that, guidance. The legislation is often a little different. Overall, the quick answer is you are fine to fly over private land, even if they do not want you there, unless there is a specific restriction or legislation to stop you. The longer answer… In England and Wales, any landowner can stop activity on their land. So if I did not want you operating a drone ‘from’ the land, I have the right to ask you to stop etc. This is usually, depending on how you respond, a civil matter and not related to CAA rules. It is important to check if the sign is backed up by a bylaw or specific legislation. If it is, the sign should have this noted in the corner in small text, this is a good way to see if the sign is just a home print job! You can fly over private land but should be aware that recovering the drone might be more difficult if you are already aware the landowner does not want you there. Being REALLY pedantic, it could be argued that flying somewhere you know you are not wanted COULD be a safety issue. I produced a video as a guide in terms of council powers over drone flight and take off permissions came up a few times. It also features input from a Barrister, (I am not legally qualified), so it could help you: ua-cam.com/video/BLIh67wg1wg/v-deo.html Hope this helps. Throw me an email if I have got the wrong end of the stick - sean@geeksvana.com.
I have the mini 3pro and if I have set my return to home at 150ft and when it’s time to come home (ie battery low ) if at that time the drone is at say 350ft it will not descend to 150ft but come home at the height it’s ,if it’s less it will go up to that height to come home
Very good video. I was reading it is allowed to take a drone onboard many flights with it having a small battery I am due to fly soon will be airports be informed.
Brilliant intro to the drone starter guide, much better than some "professional" guides, as you say it's not supposed to be difficult however some professionals get rules and requirements mixed over the drone rules, I stood in a park the other day watching two guys arguing about the "Rules" and it was clear one was a "professional" and was conflagrating the rules and adding HIS requirements and would not listen to the poor newbie. (I know better I do this for a living) Turned out to be a police officer and until I assisted was threatening confiscation, arrest, etc. Even after the much calmer conversation, he was insistent that rules were being broken. It was a pity as it spoiled what was a dad enjoying the day with his boys 😥
Great video as always Sean. Is there anywhere you can download a short list of the main rules so I can keep them to hand if approached by a member of the public or authority?
I’ve found that everywhere I look, the page talks about 25kg drones, 500g too. And then 249g. This is annoying because you can’t share that with people, as they’ll talk in a ‘general’ sense rather than specifically regarding
Not in the UK. You only need commercial insurance if the work is contracted. For example, I ask you to survey my roof. For your own UA-cam channel no commercial insurance is required. Hope this helps.
@@Geeksvana mate that is perfect I've just ordered it from dji let's hope it adds that bit more to the channel. Even if it don't it should be a fun bit of kit 👌
I have a a flyer ID for my mini 2 I recently bought a mini 3 can you advice if I should get a operator ID again or will the first one I did cover me. Great video
Thanks Alistair! If you are flying commercially with the Mini 3 without GVC etc, then the only added thing you need is commercial insurance. Hope this helps.
Very concise info for newbies - excellent =) additionally, Get a Class 2 which will allow to have almost all benefits as A1 below 250g ( apart from intentionally flying over people)- increasing your weight allowance from 250-500 grams - so that you can have those extra Nav Lights etc
I'm only 2 minute 50 seconds in but why would any casual flyer ever volunteer to identify themselves to the government or put their ID onto a drone? I get these are the "rules" but that sounds like people putting themselves in the firing line.....fk that!
It is the law. This video is as you state explaining the rules. One reason beyond that is to prevent more draconian restrictions coming in. The information is provided as just that, information. How people use it is down to them.
What's been your experience with flying in central London particularly in areas like Tower Bridge/The Thames? Have you run into the law, have they forced you away? Are places like Buckingham Palace (not over the building) allowed to be filmed?
Those areas all have airspace restrictions around them anyway. As does then entire City of London. I was scratching my head watching the footage in this video because it looks inside R158 (which does extend past the south bank of the Thames opposite the City) - but it's sometimes hard to tell with drone footage and there is a small gap between 158 and 157. Flying in R158 is a big nono, ditto R157, then south of that you have the London Heliport (and you have City Airport to the east making things worse) - so yeah, huge swath of London is unflyable without permission specifically from NATS; you can do it, they have a website for it and that may be the case for the footage in this video and that just shows how fraught things like this can be.
Great informative video but I have a question if I may... I've just purchased a Mavic Mini as my first drone and I've obtained the Flyer & Operator ID for myself. My question is this.. Does my girlfriend (who is over 18) need to aquire a Flyer ID to fly my drone, or can she fly it without as long as I'm present when she flies it?
Hey Jules! Thanks for the kind feedback. As you do not require a Flyer ID for sub 250g, your girlfriend does not need one. You remain responsible for the drone under your Operator ID. Hope this helps.
Very useful summary but I received a more disturbing definition of VLOS for my C0 M4P from the CAA. They told me that while a fleeting glance at my RC screen to check instrumentation was allowed, I could not pilot my drone even for a short distance via the RC screen without enlisting the help of a co-pilot/observer.
One of the issues we face as recreational drone users, is the 'advice' offered by the CAA. Although much of it is well intentioned and working to their goal of sage use, it is often far away from the legislation itself. We have to choose whether we will fly within their guidance and have that protection legally, of sorts, or instead fly within legislation and stand alone in court to explain our actions.
@@Geeksvana - fair point: the CAA don't make the laws (although they obviously influence them as a consultee). But I would prefer not to have to worry that the busybody filming me might be about to report me for looking at my screen for 5 seconds - or even for landing my drone manually. There are so many scenarios that require a more pragmatic interpretation of the law than the CAA's total ban on piloting the drone via the RC.
Great video and really useful info for those starting out and a gentle reminder to more seasoned drone pilots. I was interested to hear you include the Air Ambulance and common sense should kick in when these are around but it may be useful to know that the general aviation rule when two aircraft are heading straight towards each other at the same height is to break right. That's what an Air Ambulance (or any other aircraft) is going to do in this situation but landing immediately should be your first action on hearing another aircraft close by.
I gave up flying drones, some years ago. The reason being that I was often accosted by members of the public telling me that “You can’t fly drones here”. I knew the rules, and was doing nothing wrong. One guy even threatened me that if I didn’t land my drone, he’d do it for me. Drones seem to be an emotive subject for many people. I am considering getting a mini 3. Hopefully I won’t run into too many Karens.. 🙄
I used to work at RAF Lossiemouth many years ago. I’d be surprised if an Air Ambulance would be transiting at the same height that drones fly at. And would even be able to see a Mini 2 or Mini 3. Birdstrikes would be a bigger risk to helicopters.
Hey Steve! There are actually a couple of changes depending on whether or not the flight is under an Operational Authorisation and therefore impact take off and landing. Also, legislation dictates you must have EC compliant insurance etc. So we kept this hobbyist focused.
Its a recommendation not a requirement. You can fly without it but in the event of an incident it is highly unlikely your house insurance would cover you for public liability.
Hi, You specifically mention "as a hobbyist". Other than a requirement for insurance is there anything different for undertaking a commercial flight? I thought that when the rules had changed this distinction was removed?
Hey! Yes, flights are on a risk basis these days although it does depend on the type of flight with which drone. Larger drones will require a GVC and an Operational Authorisation from the CAA. There are also issues in terms of take off permission which are required for commercial operations. So, to keep things simple I decided to stress that this video covers only hobbyist/recreational flights.
I just sent mine up, just got it, first ever drone. Was quite disconcerting to be honest how quickly I could make it shoot off and it quickly gets to the stage where it’s almost out of view. I put my unboxing and first flight on my channel.
Hey! At events and sensitive locations tracking technology will show a precise path of flight. Often issues will only be looked into if there is a problem or incident which would involve the flight data of the drone either from the device or via the manufacturer.
thank you soooooo much for making this for the UK rules - btw, a 'crowd' according to the rules is more than 1000 people. so things like concerts etc. what about FRZs? i use UAV drone assist and where i wanted to fly is right in the middle of an FRZ - is this a complete no go?
Hey Zombie! Thanks for the kind feedback. The definition of group for overflight is no longer a number but instead a group of people who cannot move out of the way quickly. That could be a few people having a picnic etc. To fly in an FRZ, you will need to apply for permission from the airport or organisation who control it. Certainly flight inside without are a complete no go without it. Hope this helps.
@@Geeksvana thank you that helps a lot, i do have one more question, say i go and fly the drone with my dad, is he able to fly it? would he need an operator id or flyer id? or can i be next to him and he can just take control and fly too
Emergency service helicopters don't normally have ADSB fitted, maybe this is a question for your next chat with the CAA. New DJI drones have the ADSB facility and can now see on coming planes equipped with ADSB, so surly all emergency helicopter should be fitted accordingly. I think the idea of ADSB is to make planes/helicopters to stand out and be safe, so make this happen to all aviation,like it is in the States.This happened to me recently where an ambulance helicopter landed about 500ft away from where i was just about to take off.the ADSB facility on the drone would have warned me.Luckily i didn't take off as i heard the helicopter at the last minute as it approach at low level. All i am pushing for is the aviation sector needs to all have ADSB fitted.
How can this be about safety when you can legally track yourself unlited distance with virtually zero control over the drone but going over 500m is considered dangerous. Looking at the rules alone it seems it looks more like someone does not want ramge of consumer drones to be over 500m
And here comes the usual government price rise. Now the majority of pilots are registered they hike the price up each year until it's like the fishing licence £30+ for a few months of fishing each year.
Wiser rules in UK..Here in Finland you have to register if:The weight is over 250..OR if it has a camera?????Can't understand what a camera has to do with safety...
@@Geeksvana Wow, that was a quick reply, thank you. I hope to get a drone one day but im waiting until one day I can buy a decent one for cheap because to me the risk of spending a lot of cash on something that could disappear down a black hole very quickly is too great. 🤔 Imagine spending 2k on a drone and the first time you fly it it malfunctions and is carried down the river. 😱 That would be a bad day and I bet many have lived through it.
I'm always a bit disappointed when I hear competent content creators apologising for producing 'long' videos and promising viewers that they'll keep things as brief as possible so as not to waste their valuable time. No need for that. If people (let's be honest: children) haven't got the patience and maturity to sit through a UA-cam video longer than 34 seconds, they're the kind of people who don't listen to good advice and never read instruction manuals and aren't worth bothering with in the first place. 😁 Nuts to 'em! Bring on the in-depth videos made by and for people who love their subject. There are already plenty of TikTok shorts for Beavis and Butthead clones with the attention span of a Chocolate Hobnob. ("Huh-huh, hurrr...She said, like, 'shorts' and 'knob'. Huh-huh-huh..." Never apologise for making a good video.
So if I understand correctly, I can basically fly the Mini 3 Pro in cities over people (not dense crowds) and close to buildings etc provided I am being very careful and not flying recklessly? All of the 50m away from property etc isn't relevant?
I thought their byelaw is to do with controlling the drone from on council land. So if you take off from non council land and fly over the parks then that is ok as they don't own the airspace.
Really helpful. Thank you. I am from Thailand and will be bringing the family on a holiday to the UK this October and was wondering if it is possible to bring my Autel Nano+ (under 250g). Your video answers this question. I will try and get my Flyer ID before I leave for the UK.
Great tips!!!! Fly safe people ;) Avoid dry branches and wires of any kind ;) Check your propellers with your finger, you will feel a crack or if uneven place, time to change that propeller. Thanks 🙏
Thanks Sean, but no M3P for me. I am not sending and more cash to dji - see other vid on range restictions in the UK. However, you mentioned LOS and the follow mode that your drone may have. What is the situation re LOS when using Litchi Follow mode on my Mini 2?THe M2 doesnt have FM mode so the rule isnt met?
Hey Roy! Great to see you. The Mini 2 is a great drone and not sure I would upgrade either. The LOS follow me mode exception can be used on any drone upto 50 metres of you. Otherwise normal rules apply. Hope this helps.
Very liberal rules in the UK for sub 250 drones ! In France (and probably many other countries) built-up areas are off limit regardless of the weight as well as flying above people !
Hi I am from Germany and will get a Mini 3 Pro soon. Shortly after I get it I will be on a holiday on Jersey island. Will there be the rules just as explained here for the UK?
this is the best video i ever seen for under 250g drones explaining the rules in UK! Thank you so much. Mini 3 owner here :)
Thank you! Really appreciate your very kind feedback!
Excellent information there. I've just got my first drone (Mini 3 Pro) so it's good to have advice like this to keep things safe and legal.
Great Video, very helpful. Thank You. Waiting for Santa to bring my Christmas pressie . DJI Mini 4 Pro.
Thanks for such a great video. I am thinking of getting a DJI Mini Pro 3. I was wondering what all the rules were. This is a great video for beginners
Question : I have a dji mini 3 pro as it comes with the battery 249 g, I watched your video and when on the website
did the theory and passed the test .
I have to put the operator id in the drone and have my flyer id with me .
im flying for recreation only so I don't need an insurance for that drone.
question : what would be the next step ?
is uk civil aviation authority , proof of completion valid anywhere to fly in Europe ?
at the bottom it says a1 &a3 open sub category.
ps: what's your location maybe we meet one day in march because im flying to Europe I don't have any friends there !
jeez.. sooooo much better than australias rules. :( im coming to uk from australia, do i need to register my drone with your uk authority? fantastic, clear concise video btw!
They need to hurry up and allow other apps on the RC so that we can put drone assist and UAV forecast on it UAV has a problem apparently they have updated to include the BeiDou satellites and it works on android and on the website but Apple have not used any of the dates that he sent to them so if you’re using an iPhone or an iPad you do not get the BeiDou satellites option
I think that would be a great idea Mark. Being able to check the apps from the RC seems sensible!
As far as I can see I can’t fly at all out of eye sight is crazy
Great video very informative well done shaun
Flying in mist and fog is extremely important. I flew in a light fog once thinking it would be fine but even light mist can quickly cover the camera in specks of water making it very difficult to see
drone operator id register for the USA I don't see it.
Many thx Sean for your insightful comments much appreciated. Just a question, I’ve joined FPVUK and have their public liability ins. would I be covered to take pictures of a roof with the owners permission, for a friend of mine who wants to clean his customers roof? I would be using Mavic mini 3 pro. -Ken
What about flying in central London? Like over the Thames? I thought drones are totally banned? Also in the royal parks?
Thank you for this article. It was well presented and cleared up a lot of points in a clear and concise manner. One thing that I still am not sure about is this point in the code.
“If your drone or model aircraft is fitted with a camera or listening device, you must respect other people’s privacy whenever you use them.
If you use these devices where people can expect privacy, such as inside their home or garden, you’re likely to be breaking data protection laws.”
I am sure privacy is the major concern of people in their homes and would be interested in your interpretation of this point. If I film flying over my village am I breaking data protection laws?
Data protection laws no not apply to individuals who are not processing personal data - although people will tell you they do. IANAL but if you publish the video of your "over the village flight" then you are clear but if you overlaid it with house numbers, street addresses, and peoples names than I suspect you would need to comply with data protection requirements.
On first glance there are no differences between the European Drone Rules (legislation 2019/947) and the UK-rules, even after BRexit. Is this correct?
Thanks for the info! Just to confirm, if I buy a mini 3 tomorrow and want to fly commercially, all I need is a operator ID & insurance? Or anything else? Thanks
Hey MrB! That covers it in legal terms. The insurance need to be EC compliant but any of the commercial insurance products on the market should have that.
@@Geeksvana Ok thanks, and for like a Mavic 3 il just have to do the A2COFC on top? So hard to find people who explain this well. Appreciate it.
I live in Denmark and have taken the European A1/A3 licenses (which seems to be the same as what you refer to). And yes, I have my pilot number printed on the M3P including contact information. And an insurance covering up to 1.000.000 Euros. So do I need to take the same license if I go and visit UK or does my European license cover it?
Hey Ole! You will unfortunately need to go through the process again here in the UK. Although the systems are currently similar, they are separate. For the Mavic 3, you will need an Operator and Flyer ID. Although for the Mini 3 Pro, you only need the Operator ID. Hope this helps.
Nope ordered mine from dji site and my shipping date is shows as June god knows why
Hi are you allowed to fly in the dark?
Rules are for those whom are ruled over
There's a manual? Who knew?
Right? I have to admit reading my studio camera manual for the first time last week... one year later 😬
@@Geeksvana I'm probably in the minority I that I read them before purchasing something, I've actually got a PDF copy of the user guide of a friend car😂
I've seen footage of the Mini 3 flying in rain already! Are they waterproofing it themselves? Can I buy a kit of little rubber parts that makes the drone work in the rain? Only asking because of what you said at the very end. If its not waterproof, its not really an upgrade on my Mini 1 in that respect, and I'll wait a lot longer and buy one broken, like I did my trusty, self fixed, Mini. 200 in Feb 2020 all in with Flymore batteries and controller, registered straight away with DJI, and cost me the price of one arm and a burnt finger (they have to be soldered to the main board)
If you add waterproofing pound to a penny it will take it over 250 grams!
Excellent introduction for a first time drone owner as to what the law requires. Delivered clearly and succinctly. A real help. Thanks Sean, much appreciated.
Thank you for the kind feedback! Really appreciate it.
Just the video I needed thank you for that… one question for earning money I Hurd I need commercial endurance but do I need any further training ?
Do you know the requirements for a 250-500g drone for commercial flying? My brains gone to smush with all the jargon
Hey! Sorry for the delayed response, one of those weeks!! To fly commercially with 250g to 500g you only need EC compliant insurance. To fly these drones in congested areas with zero separation of uninvolved people, you will need an A2 CofC but this is not specific to commercial flights. Hope this helps.
Top tip re helicopters too, but it’s not just emergency helicopters: also watch out for general aviation helicopters being flown badly. I was flying in the Chilterns last week and an R44 came through straight and level at about 50m above ground level and so I had to get my drone out the way very quickly.
Shaun
Very useful
Same again in the eurozone please
Thanks Bryan! We have an EU short series coming very soon. In time for the spring trips etc!
@@Geeksvana
Excellent
Im traveling over to England in a week can I bring my phantom 4 drone so I can fly and film in Cornwall? let me know asap bud. Thanks
Hey! You will need to gain an Operator ID and pass the Flyer ID test on the UK CAA site. Then you can fly the Phantom 4 in the A3 airspace. So, 150m from congested areas or uninvolved people. Perfect for Cornish countryside. Anything else would require a certificate.
@@Geeksvana hey can you send me the appropriate links so i can get what i need. Thanks bud
I am waiting on the DJI Mini 3 Pro its my first drone , I have been watching a lot of your videos over the last few days , I decided to do the Flyer ID test and get everything in place before it arrives , you have been a great help as I had no idea all the things I need to do before flying one , I have the drone stickers on the way ,and I joined the BMFA drone flyers so the insurance is in place , I just wanted to say thanks and keep up the good work , its really helpful for people like me just starting out .
Thank you Richard! Comments like this make all the work worthwhile. I really appreciate it!
Question: What's going to happen with Mini 3 pro in regards to the classes by the end of this year (or 2023?) since it's not class certified yet?
Will we be allowed to fly it close to people either for fun or for work with A2 CofC course, or it will fall into A3 category and get lost?
Superb video thank you. Quick question re land owners permission? Presume it's needed as usual for the Mini 3? Best wishes.
With the mavic mini can I fly close to buildings ? I understand there is no minimum distance
Hye Brittmatt81! You can as long as safe etc etc and you are careful re privacy etc. Separation is based on people only.
Sean I’ve been flying drones for over 5 years and I still found this video informative great video that will help many newbies well done
Do these restrictions differ if the drone is being used for commercial flying IE, Filming Businesses etc? Thanks
Hey Sam! Yes. Same rules if the drone flight is in the Open category. You just need to have commercial drone insurance in place, which is EC785/2004. Most commercial policies are compliant from companies like Coverdrone.
@@Geeksvana Really appreciate your guidance on this! Really informative! Thanks again.
Drone licence and flyer ID its a joke . Know nothing about the subject took the test and passed. Money maker for UK Gov. But will read and learn.
As usual Sean, to the point and easy to understand. Keep up the good work!
as usa part 107 license, be very very carefully when flying over people. be very careful.
It not so dangerous here - people in the UK don't generally have access to guns 😊
Within EU there are rules and certificates valid all over the European Union....... Just got A2 certified...
you cannot fly FPV and keep to the rules, yes you can have a spotter but the spotter also needs to understand rules and how many people take there other half that has no idea about rules and are elected the spotter, ever way no matter what you fly just fly safely, side note flying and crashing in the snow is cool
It actually says if it’s under 250 grams with a camera you need a flyer ID. Maybe it’s changed since recording of this video.
Edit: my mistake and corrected
Hey! You only need the Operator ID for sub 250g with a camera, not the Flyer ID.
@@Geeksvana just checked and my mistake ! I must’ve misread that a few days ago and then went and got a flyer ID 😂 at least my mistake and now I’m a little bit more educated on drones 😂
To be fair, I think the Flyer ID should be included and as you say it doesn't hurt to know etc.
I’m glad I’ve taken it and it does give you better knowledge and understanding. Your videos have been fantastic as a new beginner gaining knowledge through them as well. It’s good to have the flyer ID card to at least show you know something. You should create your own flyer ID the fountain of knowledge for the sub 250 class of drones 😂
I am coming to Britain for the purpose of tourism for a week and I would like to use the drone
In my country, I have a permit from the Civil Aviation Authority
what to do ? my drone ( DJI Air 2s )
As always a job well done! Very informative. Thanks for sharing, have a great Thursday an d God bless
Good content and is very concise. I am thinking of getting a DJI Pro 3, but I am a little nervous about all the rules in the UK that's has stopped me from getting one up until now!
hi there just asking if you have any video of drone bigger then 2kg as i got given a dji inspire 2 as my friend just upgraded to the dji inspire 3 and as this is a 3 to 4kg drone i dont know much about were to fly this as i had a few drone like the dji mini 2 and the dji marvarc pro and the rule a difftent for this type of drones since i last fly one in this class as i see lot of video on sub 250g drone but not many on drone over 2kg to 4 kg as there a not a relly many people fly drone other then profacion flying them from what people nomaly fly around i know is is a bit of a diffent subject but as i see at this moment there alot lot of people looking into buy these drone as there getting cheaper on the used market now
Droneassist shows MOD test zones but doesn't tell you whether they're activated or not you still have to check the NOTAMs to see if you can fly.
Hi there thanks for the information. Airspace control areas seem to be everywhere is it possible to fly in these up to 120 meters with a drone as most are flight paths by the looks of it they are in a white boarder on the app.
Such a shame we have these rules. Drones have ruined the status quo we had before any idiot could fly!
Great video, thank you. If flying a sub 250g drone, taking off and landing from a safe public space - are you allowed to fly over private property/land even if the private property/land has "no drone flying" signs on their land - obviously, not flying within a NFZ or NOTAM area. The drone code point 8 says you have to follow signage? Does that mean everyone can just put up a sign to prevent drone users?
Hey Martin! The Drone Code is an excellent form of guidance. But it is just that, guidance. The legislation is often a little different.
Overall, the quick answer is you are fine to fly over private land, even if they do not want you there, unless there is a specific restriction or legislation to stop you. The longer answer…
In England and Wales, any landowner can stop activity on their land. So if I did not want you operating a drone ‘from’ the land, I have the right to ask you to stop etc. This is usually, depending on how you respond, a civil matter and not related to CAA rules.
It is important to check if the sign is backed up by a bylaw or specific legislation. If it is, the sign should have this noted in the corner in small text, this is a good way to see if the sign is just a home print job!
You can fly over private land but should be aware that recovering the drone might be more difficult if you are already aware the landowner does not want you there. Being REALLY pedantic, it could be argued that flying somewhere you know you are not wanted COULD be a safety issue.
I produced a video as a guide in terms of council powers over drone flight and take off permissions came up a few times. It also features input from a Barrister, (I am not legally qualified), so it could help you:
ua-cam.com/video/BLIh67wg1wg/v-deo.html
Hope this helps. Throw me an email if I have got the wrong end of the stick - sean@geeksvana.com.
Can we fly over national park? Like Peak district or lake district?
I have the mini 3pro and if I have set my return to home at 150ft and when it’s time to come home (ie battery low ) if at that time the drone is at say 350ft it will not descend to 150ft but come home at the height it’s ,if it’s less it will go up to that height to come home
well done uk, you want to make your rules and be out of the EU, but you copy all the EU rules...
Well i wouldnt worry about flying to far beyond line of sight it will only go few hundred metres anyway
Very good video. I was reading it is allowed to take a drone onboard many flights with it having a small battery I am due to fly soon will be airports be informed.
Brilliant intro to the drone starter guide, much better than some "professional" guides, as you say it's not supposed to be difficult however some professionals get rules and requirements mixed over the drone rules, I stood in a park the other day watching two guys arguing about the "Rules" and it was clear one was a "professional" and was conflagrating the rules and adding HIS requirements and would not listen to the poor newbie. (I know better I do this for a living) Turned out to be a police officer and until I assisted was threatening confiscation, arrest, etc. Even after the much calmer conversation, he was insistent that rules were being broken. It was a pity as it spoiled what was a dad enjoying the day with his boys 😥
Thanks for the kind words Alan and well done for supporting the hobbyist!
What do you expect from noddys
Thank you, this is invaluable advice indeed, clear and concise. I'm a complete newcomer to drones and just bought a Mavic Mini as a starting point. 👍🏻
Does visual line of sight permit the use of binoculars?
Hey! No. You can only use your eyes.
@@Geeksvana many thanks for the update. Presumably the weight of one ND filter takes the weight to 150g or over?
@@Geeksvana many thanks for the update. Presumably the weight of one ND filter takes the weight to 150g or over?
@@Geeksvana many thanks for the update. Presumably the weight of one ND filter takes the weight to 150g or over?
Great video as always Sean. Is there anywhere you can download a short list of the main rules so I can keep them to hand if approached by a member of the public or authority?
I’ve found that everywhere I look, the page talks about 25kg drones, 500g too. And then 249g.
This is annoying because you can’t share that with people, as they’ll talk in a ‘general’ sense rather than specifically regarding
Is this certificate valid in Schengen countries as well?
Do we need insurance on a mini 3 for business use ie youtube footage as its monetised?
Not in the UK. You only need commercial insurance if the work is contracted. For example, I ask you to survey my roof. For your own UA-cam channel no commercial insurance is required. Hope this helps.
@@Geeksvana mate that is perfect I've just ordered it from dji let's hope it adds that bit more to the channel. Even if it don't it should be a fun bit of kit 👌
I have a a flyer ID for my mini 2 I recently bought a mini 3 can you advice if I should get a operator ID again or will the first one I did cover me. Great video
Thanks for the kind feedback! The same Operator ID covers all the drones you own, just need to renew it once a year 😎.
Stop stop...don't make a toy registered so it can be flown..
Very clear and useful info. What is the difference if you are flying commercially?
Thanks Alistair! If you are flying commercially with the Mini 3 without GVC etc, then the only added thing you need is commercial insurance. Hope this helps.
Excellent! I just came to ask the same question. I thought that the only difference was the insurance but good to have that confirmed again. Thanks!
Very concise info for newbies - excellent =) additionally, Get a Class 2 which will allow to have almost all benefits as A1 below 250g ( apart from intentionally flying over people)- increasing your weight allowance from 250-500 grams - so that you can have those extra Nav Lights etc
I'm only 2 minute 50 seconds in but why would any casual flyer ever volunteer to identify themselves to the government or put their ID onto a drone? I get these are the "rules" but that sounds like people putting themselves in the firing line.....fk that!
It is the law. This video is as you state explaining the rules. One reason beyond that is to prevent more draconian restrictions coming in. The information is provided as just that, information. How people use it is down to them.
What's been your experience with flying in central London particularly in areas like Tower Bridge/The Thames? Have you run into the law, have they forced you away? Are places like Buckingham Palace (not over the building) allowed to be filmed?
Those areas all have airspace restrictions around them anyway. As does then entire City of London. I was scratching my head watching the footage in this video because it looks inside R158 (which does extend past the south bank of the Thames opposite the City) - but it's sometimes hard to tell with drone footage and there is a small gap between 158 and 157. Flying in R158 is a big nono, ditto R157, then south of that you have the London Heliport (and you have City Airport to the east making things worse) - so yeah, huge swath of London is unflyable without permission specifically from NATS; you can do it, they have a website for it and that may be the case for the footage in this video and that just shows how fraught things like this can be.
Great informative video but I have a question if I may... I've just purchased a Mavic Mini as my first drone and I've obtained the Flyer & Operator ID for myself.
My question is this.. Does my girlfriend (who is over 18) need to aquire a Flyer ID to fly my drone, or can she fly it without as long as I'm present when she flies it?
Hey Jules! Thanks for the kind feedback. As you do not require a Flyer ID for sub 250g, your girlfriend does not need one. You remain responsible for the drone under your Operator ID. Hope this helps.
@@Geeksvana Thanks for the reply Sean. Seems like a very complex area to a beginner. Appreciate your quick response! 👍🏻
Very useful summary but I received a more disturbing definition of VLOS for my C0 M4P from the CAA. They told me that while a fleeting glance at my RC screen to check instrumentation was allowed, I could not pilot my drone even for a short distance via the RC screen without enlisting the help of a co-pilot/observer.
One of the issues we face as recreational drone users, is the 'advice' offered by the CAA. Although much of it is well intentioned and working to their goal of sage use, it is often far away from the legislation itself.
We have to choose whether we will fly within their guidance and have that protection legally, of sorts, or instead fly within legislation and stand alone in court to explain our actions.
@@Geeksvana - fair point: the CAA don't make the laws (although they obviously influence them as a consultee). But I would prefer not to have to worry that the busybody filming me might be about to report me for looking at my screen for 5 seconds - or even for landing my drone manually. There are so many scenarios that require a more pragmatic interpretation of the law than the CAA's total ban on piloting the drone via the RC.
Great video and really useful info for those starting out and a gentle reminder to more seasoned drone pilots. I was interested to hear you include the Air Ambulance and common sense should kick in when these are around but it may be useful to know that the general aviation rule when two aircraft are heading straight towards each other at the same height is to break right. That's what an Air Ambulance (or any other aircraft) is going to do in this situation but landing immediately should be your first action on hearing another aircraft close by.
I gave up flying drones, some years ago. The reason being that I was often accosted by members of the public telling me that “You can’t fly drones here”. I knew the rules, and was doing nothing wrong. One guy even threatened me that if I didn’t land my drone, he’d do it for me. Drones seem to be an emotive subject for many people. I am considering getting a mini 3. Hopefully I won’t run into too many Karens.. 🙄
I used to work at RAF Lossiemouth many years ago.
I’d be surprised if an Air Ambulance would be transiting at the same height that drones fly at. And would even be able to see a Mini 2 or Mini 3. Birdstrikes would be a bigger risk to helicopters.
I have the mini pro 3 in ROI and have the operator ID. Do I need to register in UK when I come over or will my ROI ID be OK
Hi Peter! You will need to register in the UK as well. For the Mini 3 you only need the Operator ID which is £10 per year.
You mentioned a couple of times the word "hobbyist" but these rules are the same for commercial flyers too.
Hey Steve! There are actually a couple of changes depending on whether or not the flight is under an Operational Authorisation and therefore impact take off and landing. Also, legislation dictates you must have EC compliant insurance etc. So we kept this hobbyist focused.
Do you have to have insurance for a dji mini 3, or can you fly without it legally in the uk?
Its a recommendation not a requirement. You can fly without it but in the event of an incident it is highly unlikely your house insurance would cover you for public liability.
Hi, You specifically mention "as a hobbyist". Other than a requirement for insurance is there anything different for undertaking a commercial flight? I thought that when the rules had changed this distinction was removed?
Hey! Yes, flights are on a risk basis these days although it does depend on the type of flight with which drone. Larger drones will require a GVC and an Operational Authorisation from the CAA. There are also issues in terms of take off permission which are required for commercial operations. So, to keep things simple I decided to stress that this video covers only hobbyist/recreational flights.
@@Geeksvana thanks for the quick reply. What is the score on take off permission?
I just sent mine up, just got it, first ever drone. Was quite disconcerting to be honest how quickly I could make it shoot off and it quickly gets to the stage where it’s almost out of view. I put my unboxing and first flight on my channel.
Too many rules and worries to bother getting one.
How do “they” determine if you’re flying over a crowd and not a few metres to the side?
Hey! At events and sensitive locations tracking technology will show a precise path of flight. Often issues will only be looked into if there is a problem or incident which would involve the flight data of the drone either from the device or via the manufacturer.
Thank u I didn’t know I need an operator id
thank you soooooo much for making this for the UK rules - btw, a 'crowd' according to the rules is more than 1000 people. so things like concerts etc. what about FRZs? i use UAV drone assist and where i wanted to fly is right in the middle of an FRZ - is this a complete no go?
Hey Zombie! Thanks for the kind feedback. The definition of group for overflight is no longer a number but instead a group of people who cannot move out of the way quickly. That could be a few people having a picnic etc.
To fly in an FRZ, you will need to apply for permission from the airport or organisation who control it. Certainly flight inside without are a complete no go without it. Hope this helps.
@@Geeksvana thank you that helps a lot, i do have one more question, say i go and fly the drone with my dad, is he able to fly it? would he need an operator id or flyer id? or can i be next to him and he can just take control and fly too
Emergency service helicopters don't normally have ADSB fitted, maybe this is a question for your next chat with the CAA. New DJI drones have the ADSB facility and can now see on coming planes equipped with ADSB, so surly all emergency helicopter should be fitted accordingly. I think the idea of ADSB is to make planes/helicopters to stand out and be safe, so make this happen to all aviation,like it is in the States.This happened to me recently where an ambulance helicopter landed about 500ft away from where i was just about to take off.the ADSB facility on the drone would have warned me.Luckily i didn't take off as i heard the helicopter at the last minute as it approach at low level. All i am pushing for is the aviation sector needs to all have ADSB fitted.
How can this be about safety when you can legally track yourself unlited distance with virtually zero control over the drone but going over 500m is considered dangerous.
Looking at the rules alone it seems it looks more like someone does not want ramge of consumer drones to be over 500m
Because no one can effectively see a sub 250 gm drone, 400 feet in the air, at 500 metres and drone flights have to be kept in visual range.
@@barrieshepherd7694 and why do they need to be within visual range again?
And here comes the usual government price rise. Now the majority of pilots are registered they hike the price up each year until it's like the fishing licence £30+ for a few months of fishing each year.
Wiser rules in UK..Here in Finland you have to register if:The weight is over 250..OR if it has a camera?????Can't understand what a camera has to do with safety...
When this video says uk rules im in Scotland and often the rules are different from England, is this the case with drones?
Hey PG Tips! The drone rules are identical and it is the same regulator etc.
@@Geeksvana Wow, that was a quick reply, thank you. I hope to get a drone one day but im waiting until one day I can buy a decent one for cheap because to me the risk of spending a lot of cash on something that could disappear down a black hole very quickly is too great. 🤔 Imagine spending 2k on a drone and the first time you fly it it malfunctions and is carried down the river. 😱 That would be a bad day and I bet many have lived through it.
Great information thank you!!
I'm always a bit disappointed when I hear competent content creators apologising for producing 'long' videos and promising viewers that they'll keep things as brief as possible so as not to waste their valuable time.
No need for that.
If people (let's be honest: children) haven't got the patience and maturity to sit through a UA-cam video longer than 34 seconds, they're the kind of people who don't listen to good advice and never read instruction manuals and aren't worth bothering with in the first place. 😁
Nuts to 'em!
Bring on the in-depth videos made by and for people who love their subject. There are already plenty of TikTok shorts for Beavis and Butthead clones with the attention span of a Chocolate Hobnob. ("Huh-huh, hurrr...She said, like, 'shorts' and 'knob'. Huh-huh-huh..."
Never apologise for making a good video.
Requires drone to be below 250g to be safe enough to fly without license - add a sticker that takes it above 250g.
So if I understand correctly, I can basically fly the Mini 3 Pro in cities over people (not dense crowds) and close to buildings etc provided I am being very careful and not flying recklessly? All of the 50m away from property etc isn't relevant?
Leeds City Council have cleared up their rules, all drones of any kind, any weight, are banned from all the parks and open spaces. Facists.
I thought their byelaw is to do with controlling the drone from on council land. So if you take off from non council land and fly over the parks then that is ok as they don't own the airspace.
@@MikeBradleyUK Thanks Mike, I didn’t interpret it like that, but you are probably right, I’ll take another look.
UK always making things complicated. Can't fix the NHS or other stuff and this is the focus. I understand safety but it is a bit too much.
Really helpful. Thank you. I am from Thailand and will be bringing the family on a holiday to the UK this October and was wondering if it is possible to bring my Autel Nano+ (under 250g). Your video answers this question. I will try and get my Flyer ID before I leave for the UK.
Great tips!!!!
Fly safe people ;)
Avoid dry branches and wires of any kind ;)
Check your propellers with your finger, you will feel a crack or if uneven place, time to change that propeller.
Thanks 🙏
Thanks Sean, but no M3P for me. I am not sending and more cash to dji - see other vid on range restictions in the UK. However, you mentioned LOS and the follow mode that your drone may have. What is the situation re LOS when using Litchi Follow mode on my Mini 2?THe M2 doesnt have FM mode so the rule isnt met?
Hey Roy! Great to see you. The Mini 2 is a great drone and not sure I would upgrade either. The LOS follow me mode exception can be used on any drone upto 50 metres of you. Otherwise normal rules apply. Hope this helps.
@@Geeksvana with the greatest of respect, I think you no answer my question
@@box.10 I answered... LOS is the same for every drone. The 50m follow me mode can be used on any drone. That's it.
Can you do a rules and regulations for Australian sub 250 Drone. There is not enough data out there and CASA really dose not make it clear.
Any similar video for Air 2s and flying laws?
It’s always good to return to basics and refresh > thank you
Thank you James! Really appreciate your kind support!
Very liberal rules in the UK for sub 250 drones ! In France (and probably many other countries) built-up areas are off limit regardless of the weight as well as flying above people !
Thank you soo much for your video!
It help me to understand the rules and now I’m gonna go and register my mini3 pro 😅.London area based.
How is this for people that visit the UK from other country’s?
Do they need to do thinks before they start flying there sub 250 gram drone ?
but if I get myself into trouble, will saying sorry work, like it did for boris?
I believe the Boris defence appears to work well for certain people...
@@Geeksvana 'for certain people' is not how the law should really work 😁
Hi
I am from Germany and will get a Mini 3 Pro soon. Shortly after I get it I will be on a holiday on Jersey island. Will there be the rules just as explained here for the UK?