UK Drone Rules 2024 in Brief: New Rules, Geo-Zones, DJI FlySafe Update, FRZs & SSSIs
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2024
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The DJI Fly App & FlySafe map is updated; I explain the new drone rules affecting C0, C1 and C2 drones in 2024 in the UK and EU. Sub 250gm and heavier drones, flying in towns, countryside, drone rules near airports, prisons and flying a drone over a Site of Special Scientific Interest (SSSI).
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If you fly under a GVC, A2CofC or Flying Club Article 16, you'll know you have different rules. And remember VLOS. 👍🏻
Just to double-check, as an A2 CofC holder, I'm good to fly my Air 3 (~600g) within the 150m of Recreational, Residential, etc, areas right? I've always interpreted the rules with an A2 CofC to be similar to those of a
@@chbmckie yes. Similar to sub 250 gm but you have to stay 50 meters away from uninvolved people.
Hi Ian, I’m that guy that will always ask a dopey question that you’ve already answered.
I have a mini pro 3, am I correct in understanding that I can now take this to London (city area) and fly unrestricted anywhere except over prisons. I was hoping to do this on a Sunday evening or morning when footfall is very light.
Also would an empty football stadium by open to fly over too.
Big apologies if you’ve answered this question a hundred times already.
Kind regards
Paul (who also likes flying drones)
@@MrPws1968 No, there is a full No Fly Zone for the Square Mile that is west of Tower Bridge. You can't fly anywhere in central London, and same goes for the royal parks like Hyde and Regents etc. Big fines. 👍🏻
@@IaninLondon thanks Ian, I saw recently a flight that had taken off in Finsbury square. Was hoping to do the same. Thought I could go on fly safe app and apply for permission.
As the CAA have all our email addresses and constantly bang on about "risk", you might think they would email *every* operator to inform them of changes to legislation. 🙄
good point! clearly its a stealth tax mechanism and a big brother knows where you live - look what happened when a man was accused of flying near gatwick and they raided his family home en masse. He was innocent of course.
@@speedbird737 ah the "Gatwick Drone". I think Mulder & Scully are still looking for that one...
Still hasn't hit my electronic doormat. Maybe they don't have the money for a stamp?
@@sarkybugger5009 Or they used the Royal Mail and are 'in the post'
They are still very draconian laws considering the risk. National parks around here allow 4WD'ing which completely fucks the environment, off road motorcycles, shooting and hunting native and non-native animals yet they're against drones or MTB riders. Rule makers are often clueless.
Absolutely spot on.....
And the prison flying ban, is yet again putting a rule in place on law abiding drone flyers, but those who would drop illegal shit into a prison won't give a shit for these regs 🤷🏻♂️
It’s more that they cannot stop 4wd’s using legal rights of way designated for vehicles and they don’t stand a chance of downgrading them or getting them removed.
Incidentally, there is no legislation that differentiates between a cyclist riding along a right of way or a pedestrian carrying a bag - the law that did was overturned a very long time ago when on appeal, it was decided that pedestrians can carry objects and the way in which they carry their object has no guidance in the law - I know that all sounds very sov cit, it kind of is because frankly, there is a difference and it will get closed double quick if it ever arrived in court, you’d end up paying a lot of legal fees just to be the fool who tried it when all they had to do was jump off the bike and push it along the right of way to the boundary of the landowners land on request.
The rules on national parks, OUR parks need to be overturned. They're ridiculous.
Auditors will eventually ruin things further for us all. They need to stop using drones to antagonise and scare. Thanks for the update.
I can understand filming while droning. I had an incident where if I’d have filmed I could have stood my ground. I got picked up and thrown off public land when I was just doing some photography for instagram. I have operator id and was flying safely.
I used to have that same opinion so I get what you're getting at. But since following two of these so called auditors and being a fully fledged UAV pilot with insurance I'm now of the opinion that the auditors are actually doing the public good.
Because those decent ones are evidencing how many freedom's are being taken away from the public due to Karen's and corporate attitudes to the public.
People think they own the sky
Businesses think they own the sky
People still think it's against the law to record you or take photos in public places.
I've been subject to these morons and I'm not going out my way to annoy anyone.. These peeps will hunt you down and harras you for flying.
They get it in their heads that your spying on them
@@srjwari it's rampant! There was a Times article the other day (iirc) that was complaining of "stealthcamming" - a neologism coined by the article's author, bemoaning the legitimacy of people (read "men") photographing her, or any woman (won't someone think of the females?) in a public place whilst committing no crime whatsoever. Why the editor let that one pass is anyone's guess. Nobody show her the work of Henri Cartier Bresson. People are idiots! 🙄
@@eighteenfiftynine yup people are idiots and the reason the press goes with stories like this is because fear sells.. It's why every news story has something for you to worry about.
The average person going about their life wanting to enjoy a hobby are now seen as preditors and spies..
I'm not being funny but every single person has a mobile recorder in their pockets every single human being at any time could record you and you wouldn't know unless it was obvious...
But a drone that 120m high taking photos of the mountain or a bridge is now the problem..
Please for the love of all things will people turn off the news, switch off the social sites and turn on some brain cells.
@@mind5403people are just stupid when it comes to photography in general. They’ll happily watch the results of a major accident on Sky News and be in awe of their drone shots. If they see an amateur taking those same shots they’re not happy.
Just a quick point on the 120 metre rule. If you are out in the mountains or hilly areas and are walking uphill as the drone is flying, just change the home point while you're moving and the drone will go higher (up to 120 metres) based on the new home point created while walking. Otherwise, great, concise video. Cheers!
Great tip!
If I'm on a mountain ridge with a 300m drop am I allowed to send my drone over that drop to film myself on the ridge? Is the 120m rule then discarded because I set a new RTH for where I'm standing?
I have flown in Heathrow's FRZ with their permission. It was interesting to deal with them. I had to call three different phone numbers when I was about to begin and when I had finished.
Hi Ian, I've been following your channel for years but not commented before. Can I just say you present every topic very friendly and concise without any unnecessary waffle. I'm a big fan 👍
Thank you for those good words... Appreciated...
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@@IaninLondonthanks for the video, very useful update
Where does @UKDroneClub get their airspace data from? That's lots of work for 16 pounds
NATS have an online database they utilise
@@sUASNews due to the number of different layers of data we offer, it's pulled in from a number of different sources 😊
Hi Ian, its Iain in Glasgow. Great video, thanks for your help.
Thank you Ian. Love watching your videos. Another great and really informative video. Please keep them coming
Thanks Ian for the detailed but simple to follow video. Can always rely on your videos to make things clear.
Great video. Really informative. Glad there’s someone explaining these things, because it can be confusing for some.
Thanks for a great video Ian
I'm new to this and found your explanation and information very understandable compared to some other videos. Enjoy your flying .
Many thanks Ian, always good to be on the right side of the law, if you can keep up with the changes 😳 thanks for posting
Cheers Ian and thanks for clearing up an unnecessarily complicated area!
Thankyou for the update, it might be time to get better qualified so i cna continue to use my larger drones.
Excellent information, thank you. I have just got a Mini 4 Pro and was a bit confused at to what I could and couldn't do, but you cleared it up nicely!
Thank you Ian, you're the best channel to get a quick update on drones and rules!
Cheers 🤠👍🏻
Very informative video Ian and well presented. Thanks!
Thanks for the excellent update Ian. Its always a pleasure watching your channel.
Thanks James 👍🏻
Thanks Ian. Shared this on my Facebook page for you and the community 👍😎
Thanks!
Thank you for posting this video.
Thank you Ian. Always very informative
Thanks Ian, very clear and accurate info and advice 👍
Great video Ian Happy New year. I made my self a member of GA, no brainer full access to DS and insurance. I live around a large area of sssi around Cannock Chase and Chasewater. I even contact Lichfield Council to ask if I could fly from the public foot path. A swift NO was e-mailed back there excuse someone was killed by a model aircraft on Dartmoor ?. More damage is done to the heathers by people walking over the heathers and not keeping to the paths. There is another area I would like to fly along a stretch of cannel. SSSI No drones flying to protect lilies and grasses. What a joke. Cars from fisherman parked along the grasses, casting lines across the lilies dragging fish across them leaving disregarding lines and hooks Come the start of the fishing season the local Facebook group will be full of photos of injured birds with hooks and lines in them. So we are in the wrong hobby. Sorry for rant I am sure you can understand this. Keep giving us your brilliant informative videos.
I have found if you ask someone, they'll always say no. Use your common sense and fly 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Brilliant summary, will show this in some of my college drone courses 👍
I only watch your videos from time to time Ian, but it's great to see you have a proper studio now. I've been subscribed for around 3 years and it's fantastic to see what I presume is a sign of channel growth.
Thanks for your help navigating drone usage in the UK over the years.
Thanks! Yep, moved house late last year and kitted up a new studio.... Very happy with it 👍🏻👍🏻
Good evening, Ian, another great video for the theoretical preparation of flying drones. Fingers crossed for all UAS pilots to enjoy every minute of their drone flight. Thank you and greetings from the Czech Republic 👍
Thank you for the good words 👍🏻
Brilliant video. I’m just getting into drone flying with a Mavic Air, and your videos are incredibly informative and useful (even the six year old ones)! Thanks so much for the hard work you put into these.
Great video as ever, Ian. Thank you,
Thanks again, your advice made simple.
Great video and super clear! Appreciate the update!
Quality video mate! Keep em coming
Very interesting video, ive not long started flying a sub 250 drone, and the rules are not always straight to the point. You can spend more time researching them than flying. common sense and respect for others goes a long way in my book. Thank you Ian
Just fly, reading is for nerds, just fly around and into whatever you would like, nobody cares
Great information on the changes to the DJI Geo Zones. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you very much for this 👍
I am a commercial uav pilot and i work mainly in London. I follow the rules to the letter and I have never been refused permission to fly. NATS are very quick to respond to a request for permission to fly so they are very helpful. Use your common sense and learn the rules by heart and keep updated. Easy.
How do u request it can’t find the info anywhere
Be interesting to hear a bit more about that if I ever visited and wanted to get some footage. Can you request the centre or on the Thames etc? You request and have a limited time in one area?
I don't know about the Thames, probably out of bounds, but Central London has large chunks where you can fly providing you apply properly and tell them how long a period you need, this can be days not just hours, and you give the specific locations.@@Marc-th9xw
Hey Ian hope you and ted are well. Great video mate as always
I’m new to owning and using a drone so this video has really helped me to understand the rules a bit more. Thanks for posting 👌🏻
Brilliant video and info mate. Thanks as always for sharing
Ian, Super good information. Thank you! We'll be crossing the pond again in April so I will probably be sending you an email to seek some further info. Right now I'm flying a Mini 2 but may upgrade before the trip to a Mini 4 Pro. Thank you again for your time and expertise with this channel. - Bill from the States
Cheers Bill! Have a great trip 🤠
always go to place for info clear and informative
Thanks Ian. Very well explained and presented.
Cheers dude, very informative, and in a short amount of time 👍🏻
Thanks for clear information it’s always a big help
Thanks for this video. Well presented and easy to understand.
Prior to knowing the 120m rule, I took my cheapo CFly Faith Mini up to an amazing 360m! Amazing views of the Bristol channel were had!
Very informative. Thank you.
Thank You Ian Great Video and some Great Information🙂❤👍Watching from New Brunswick Canada🙂
Thanks for the good words! Plenty of incredible places to fly in NB :) Cheers
Thanks for the video. Subscribed to your channel.
Cheers! :)
Again a great practical information video, many thanks
Thanks for another really informative video 👍
Thanks 👍 , I couldn't understand this New way of looking at things that have been done again.....I use DJI Mini 2 se.... so I feel much more relaxed and relieved.... plus I do use Drone assist.
Great update thanks 👍
many thanks again Ian
Thank you for your thoughtful review. Regarding SSSIs, they are so sensitive and many people are not respectful. This summer I stopped someone running a drone through a site of severely threatened ground nesting birds in nesting season. That individual probably reduced numbers that day as birds fled their nests. I really appreciate you covering this, as a scientist and drone flyer!
Helpful info as usual.
Thanks Ian.
Great stuff. Just one more note - some aircraft can fly below 500ft legally. For example, paramotors which I fly myself. There is no minimum height for us - but we still have the usual other rules (500 ft away from any manmade object, persons, etc). I only mention as there might otherwise be an expectation from drone pilots (which I also am!), that they cannot possibly encounter a manned aircraft below 500ft, but that is not the case at all. thanks for the video.
Hence why even flying a sub 250g legally requires the drone to be in VLOS of the operator so that you can see the airspace around the drone and immediately drop altitude if a manned aircraft is nearby.
Great video, Ian, especially your interpretations of some of the more nebulous topics like disturbing wildlife.
Cheers Don! I try and apply a bit of common sense 🤠
Loving the new look studio.
Thank you for your video, I'll need to fly my Mini 3 more :)
Another good helpful and informative video!
Clear and to the point, thanks Ian. Love Geeksvana but sometimes if I want to listen to two blokes banter, I will go down the pub.
Good information , Thank you
Hi,Just come across your channel and have instantly subscribed as its practically and very informative.Finally took the plunge to purchase a Potsenic Atom drone,not even flown it yet as been doing a load of research,getting my operators ID /Flyer ID etc as sometimes members of the public can be very hostile towards Drone pilots.
I’m 68 years and needed to find a hobby that’s a bit easier on my body rather than cars
Anyway hope you continue to give valuable information on Drones
Bye for now
Sparky
Cheers Sparky and thanks for the good words 🤠👍🏻👍🏻
Nice one man. New subscriber ✌🏻
glad i watched this vid, i was just about to buy a mavic 2 pro to capture a few scenes for a music video in a residential area 😅
Great video as always Ian. Im a pro drone pilot and moved from my beloved Mavics 3 years or so ago to the Mini 2 and then the Mini 3. I thought I would miss the capability of the Mavic drones but far from it. The Mini 3 I currently fly is more than capable for the construction sites and industrial areas my clients ask me to photograph and video, the photos are great and the 4k video is brilliant. The best reason to move to the Mini series of drones though is the freedom to fly in areas that are totally out of bounds for the heavier drones.
Great comment, I’ve went from a Mavic to Mini 3 then back to Mavic 3 Classic just when it was released, only to be kicked right in the balls 1/2 weeks later when the CAA decided NOT to follow on and use the C1 labelled in their rules! I was well pi$$ed off, and many others also they did that (they couldn’t give a damn). Since then I’ve only flown a few times due to ‘restrictions’ and deciding to either sell and buy a Mini 4 Pro or wait for the 5 Pro with hopefully a 1” sensor.
@@Lee-zg3gx I'm skipping the mini4 as there isnt enough difference for me to buy it, same camera, same sensor etc. I dont need the extra side sensors so like you will wait for the mini 5 pro and see what that generation brings
Almost all of the UK coastline or anywhere in nature now has SSI's marked in Drone Assist, so they are almost unavoidable there are links to the relevant SSI information but it means thorough research before flying in new areas.
More good information Ian.
Where I live on the Isle of Wight large areas of it are SSSIs most of it comes up on drone assist as ground hazard, so I TOAL from a footpath or road and stay high, I have written to Natural England for clarification but as yet no reply…some of my footage has just received national press attention with no knock at the door..yet! I did see the Police there on one of my flights they were flying drones from the cliff top.
Great information as usual.. I had a couple of drones ending up with Mini 3.. it was the most stable.. but never got enough time to develop any real flying skills.. Progress was interrupted by people and their attitudes: You are not really welcome or always looked upon as suspicious... I sold the kit at a loss. Now the criteria is changing again and I'm glad to be out of it.. I used the drone for photography mainly and still have a proper camera but rarely use that either now. People are suspicious of photographers too.. don't walk through a park with a camera for the same reasons as drone use.
Thanks mate
Useful, thanks
Great walkthrough Ian who plays with drones!
We are coming from EU to Scotland later this year, and while some of the flying I'd like to do would be in open countryside, a lot would also be in more built up areas. Now I have a Mavic 2, Air 2S, and the original Mavic Mini. So I think what I'll do is just buy myself a Mini 4 Pro before we head on over to the UK... I have my Flyer ID already, just the Operator ID to go and we should be all set.
Anyway, good videos from you as always, keep up the good work!
Cheers from Sweden :)
Mini 4 Pro will be perfect travel drone and easily cope with the mountain terrain! Maybe get an extra battery 😉
@@IaninLondon Oh, I wouldn't leave the house with less than 3 batteries 😃
Nice to keep an eye on how restrictions are developing in other countries.
I don't pay much heed to the rules - I just apply common sense and courtesy to the people, animals and other things around me at all times, and have never had a problem.
Same. Common sense prevails
Thats what I did when I use to fly (just getting back into it) now I just just plan on flying fpv whoops which weigh around 25g - 30g. It's clear the CAA and FFA in the USA and EU's version just dont want anyone who is into RC flying to fly. We may see more restrictions apply as racing/free style built drones are now used in wars. Just like with going on adventures and camping I just use my common sense.
what makes me laugh is that people and governments complain that people are being indoors too much but they restrict everything so much that the only places you're allowed to exist is at home or at work.
Thanks
Well done Ian. Very clear and to the point. Watched same type of video by geeksavana, oh dear boy did he Drone on, talk, talk, talk were it became mind numbing😵💫. Again well done for making information so clear and to the point for people to easily understand.👍
Good to hear that the DJI app has removed their restrictions in favour of the CAA ones as I go t bit by this last year. Went to fly near my parents, having checked in Altitude Angel whether the local airport and airfield would be an issue. According to their CAA maps we were good to fly. Unfortunately the built-in DJI apps believed that we were in restricted airspace so the day was a scrub.
One thing nobody ever seems to mention is that flying is also restricted by council / county. Lots of councils have rules in place seeking their permission (regardless of weight) if you're taking off and flying over council owned land.
Will be interesting to see how much enforcement happens with wormwood scrubs. The flying field slightly overlaps the prison exclusion zone. The local police have been pretty decent in the past so I'm expecting the 10-20m overlap won't be enforcedm
One problem is folks from other countries who fly drones. One of my neighbours takes off with a drone from his back garden, Talking to him is difficult as he is Bulgarian and rather aggressive, Where he flies to, with his drone, one is never sure as it zooms away for a good time and certainly is not i line of sight.
however, folks around here do get shirty with drones flown from back gardens and possibly along the line of their homes.
Especially interesting about SSSis and even though I live in Germany but travel a lot to the UK I made the right decision not to get an Air 2S/3...
As a freelance cameraman I sometimes use my drones professionally.
But, when I am on vacation abroad, I love to bring one of my smaller drones (Mavic 2 Pro) with me. I know my drone is well over 249 grams, thus respecting the 50m and residential rules 😇
And, I always have this habit, to download multiple drone-map apps. I just don't want to rely on the DJI maps alone. And I want to spend my vacation days doing fun stuff, enjoy nature, cities and relax… rather than spending time to the authorities that I was not aware of the restrictions.
Am I too neurotic? _(And yes, I will get a sub 250g for roadtrips)_
I humbly beg your pardon, my friend, for citing an author from across the pond-realizing that you live in the land which has produced the world’s greatest writing, I will reference Voltaire. It is he who wrote, “Common sense is not so common.” It is so true and because there are many who lack it, we have all these rules, which, unfortunately are often established by those lacking in common sense. It is a boon that you, who have your feet on the ground, can aid in making sense of it. Cheers from 14 inches of snow in frigid Wisconsin, U.S.A.
True words George! And I love your quotes irrespective of the source! As I heard in a song once, "The world is full of stupid, ugly people". 😉. Can't remember which one, but there's a message for all of us there..... Don't go shovelling that snow first thing in the morning! Apparently most likely time to initiate a heart attack! ❄️❄️❄️
@@IaninLondon Good advice regarding shoveling. I have a very good snow blower and with the areas I need to shovel, I pace myself.
Shame that you can't add your own geo-fence layers to the DJI Fly app to self-police where you can fly. It was really good that the warnings came up on screen as you were flying rather than having to constantly cross reference map overlays from another provider...which are often online only...especially when flying in an area with no mobile signal. 😕
Yeah I picked the DJI Mini 3, mainly because I don't want to deal with the >250g restrictions
Thanks Ian very helpful and easy to follow as usual. I always try to fly when no is around as I know how annoying the sound of a drone can be. Not upsetting others should always be important as well as flying legally.👍👍
Yep. It shouldn't have to be that way as most families with kids make far more noise, but that's how it is....
Are you on a fb DJI group? I mentioned the car and speed limit just the other day and it's a great example 👍
I'm not... But cheers! Yep, perfect analogy imho
In the US if you are close to an object (say a radio tower) you can fly more that 400' from the ground to allow for drone inspections of tall things. This is why the DJI system does not have a hard cap at 400'.
Hi Ian - Air Property rules in the UK, also come into effect whilst flying over private property - Let me explain to all your subscribers as I was hit with a visit from the local officer for breaching these rules with an old neighbour - I took off from my landing pad and flew out over my hedge and into the countryside, like you do. When i was returning there were people below so i avoided them as per the rules and came back into land which cut the corner of my neighbour's property by a couple of feet. They had a camera which recorded my drone and called the local establishment. They arrived and this law to me. I explained why i did this and they stated i should have landed my drone and waited for the people to pass then take off and fly back over my hedge again, thus avoiding my neighbour's Air Property. To be honest, if i'd done this they would have stolen my drone. I apologised to the officer and my neighbour for this. So if you fly below 400 feet, which is the law in the UK, be aware of the property you fly over, as it's also protected by law to prevent you from flying over it if your drone makes too much noise or affects a person's wellbeing.
I thought I'd send the rules to your subscribers - Hope this helps.
WHAT IS AIR PROPERTY?
Air property refers to the airspace above a property. In most instances, if you own the land the property is built on (i.e. you are the freeholder), you also own some of the airspace above the building. This doesn’t mean you own limitless airspace, however. In the UK, airspace is divided into two types - the lower stratum and the higher stratum.
The lower stratum is the space immediately above and around your property. There is no exact measurement for this space, but if activity in the area is likely to affect your reasonable enjoyment of your land and property then intruders can be prevented from entering it. For example, if an aircraft flies too low and the sound is likely to affect your day-to-day wellbeing, then it would be considered an infringement of your air rights.
The upper stratum is the height above which intrusion is unlikely to affect reasonable enjoyment of your property. Apart from in Scotland, your air property does not extend endlessly into the sky. The upper stratum in the rest of the UK is generally considered to be approximately 500 to 1000 feet above your property, according to Section 76 of the Civil Aviation Act 1982.
The new studio is looking great 👍. How's the dogs settling in their new home?. I am very lucky where I live In Midlothian Just outside of Edinburgh. I live between two fields and have 3 reservoirs on my doorstep. It's actually very similar location to your old home. Cluster flies and wasps a plenty.
All good thanks, although heading to the Highlands in 10 days for some van time :)
We are to be hit with a lot of snow next 5 days so your in for a treat With highland snow coverage. But am guessing you know 🤠. I did Glencoe with my Air2S last year it did well online. I challenge you to do good 👍😊
I think from now on and up until the CAA move their arse and release the new set of rules (YAWN), every recreational flyer should be purchasing a Mini. Then, and only then when CAA get off their arse, then we decide whether to go down the heavier drone routes, and see how good or crap the new restriciones are.
This is crazy.
Good, informative video. Was thinking of buying one but honestly all the regs surrounding it is like traversing a minefield and for me would suck the joy out of it, shame.
Ian I live in Hempholme East Yorkshire can you look at the NFZ map of the Yorkshire coast and explain If I can fly at my location thanks Steve
Though you may be able to fly over zones you cannot enter or control the drone from, consider what would happen if the drone comes down in those areas?
Was very lucky finding not only your channel, but this particular video. My wife and I are having a narrowboat launched at Dunchurch Marina, which is next to two prisons. They’re about 300ft away. Understanding we won’t come anywhere near the prisons while recording the narrowboat launch, should we ask permission or forgiveness? Thanks!
I would do it before the 24th... That's when the law comes in. The prison won't be in a position to offer permission; it's not their call... TBH, if you kept it very low around 15 feet and weren't flying high and far, I can't see an issue.