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The Word Bearers are one of the nine First Founding Space Marine Legions that betrayed the Emperor of Mankind during the Horus Heresy. They became Chaos Space Marines, their allegiance pledged to their Daemon Primarch Lorgar and to Chaos Undivided. The Word Bearers were also the first Space Marine Legion to be corrupted by the Ruinous Powers of Chaos many Terran decades before their counterparts turned to the Dark Gods.
Through their actions they corrupted the Warmaster Horus and brought on the terrible galactic civil war of the Horus Heresy in all its savagery. Today they bend all their considerable efforts towards the overthrow of the "Corpse Emperor" in the Long War and spreading the "truth" of Chaos to all Mankind.
Music: NEFFEX - BELIEVE
Tonite On Ridiculous Gear: Bricky goes bald with faith, DK becomes a half daemon, Kirioth learns about the truth of Chaos and Shy is just a little Erebus
If only this episode was sponsored by Keeps.
Cheese.
I love that you‘re literally everywhere
@@iglusmulmus5171 I am Alpharius
Truly beautiful
one of my favorite word bearers moments is when a word bearer marine is fighting a black templar one and the black templar begins saying battle prayers to the Emperor and the word bearer keeps finishing every single prayer before him. The black templar is like "how the fuck do you know these prayers traitor!!!!" and the word bearer just replies "i was there when my father wrote them". The revelation that a chaos primarch wrote those prayers causes the black templar to kind of freeze in shock and confusion and then the word bearer kills the black templar
Can you tell which book it was in?
The Word Bearers would have been supremely entertained by post-Siege of Terra Sigismund
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id love to see the first time Lorgar hears a guard shout for the god emperor and he's just like FOR THE FUCKING WHAT !!!
I imagen either the entire front line of wird bearers look at each other thinking did they just say what in think they said.
Or lorger shouting back" corrections for the fucking false emperor" then cleaves them to death.
I believe the Word Bearers Omnibus had elements of this reaction from the Word Bearers themselves (not Lorgar himself unfortunately).
He’d probably be saying “…Oh, NOW the galaxy is down for this??? Are you FUCKING kidding me??? I lost Manarchia!! And you FUCKERS get to do that for FREE!!!”
@@tergartcunninghan2013 then he starts wheezing when he realizes the Imperium IS his new Manarchia
@@ouchiegiverjr "If anyone knows his will, it's me, Im his son after all. I dub this no longer the Imperium of Man, this is now New Manarchia!"
‘My lord,’ Sergeant Arkus said, saluting. He was carrying his company’s standard.
‘At ease, Arkus,’ Guilliman told the Ultramarine. Arkus’s armour glinted in the sunlight. ‘You’re trying too hard,’ he added.
‘My lord?’
‘When I arrived last night, your armour was in perfectly respectable condition, as was the plate of the other battle-brothers in your company. I remember these things. This morning, you’ve buffed your plate to the point of insanity.’
‘My primarch is here,’ Arkus said, offended. ‘A surprise inspection of this post. What else would I do?’
Guilliman got up and faced him. ‘I’m sorry, Arkus. My remark was petty and uncalled for. Your armour code is perfect.’
Arkus nodded, and rested the base of the standard on the ground. ‘My lord,’ he said. ‘I am an Ultramarine. Trying too hard is the entire point of us, isn’t it?’
Guilliman smiled and saluted Arkus.'
How dare you make me like Girlyman and the ultrasmurfs!
Kek. Trying hard. "Ohh no i polished my armour too much ohh im such a tryhard". Meanwhile IWs : "Excellent, we only suffered 90% casualties in the last engagement. To hell with comradery, lets refold the mauled battalions, keep going and see if someone cares".
@@JudgeNicodemus 'Know No Fear' made me like Guilliman. But to be fair, it was desperately needed since that was at the time when the Wardian Heresy was still ongoing.
@@Bollthorn Thank god it ended before Gulliman’s resurrection otherwise it would have been absolutely cringey with how Matt ward would handle it.
There's a part in some book where some Word Bearers learn that worship of the Emperor has become the standard, and they say "we won!" and start laughing
It's Talon of Horus and it's actually a team of a Thousand Son, an Emperor's Child and a World Eater.
An imperial refers to the "God Emperor".
2 of them start laughing, one because he finds it funny and the other because he's having a bit of a mental break at this news. The other is completely lost for words.
Yes. The Word Bearers won, and continue to win.
Imagine you're an average backwater planet and suddenly a force of holy space marines come by and declare that they need your help to spread the holy word of the Emperor, for they are his sons and an extension of his will.
Boom, instant almost unlimited source of manpower, and the ability to bring an entire planet under your control.
They made this environment, and use it to its fullest extent.
When the Word Bearers defeat Roboute Gulliman in the battlefleet gothic 2 chaos campaign, they rechristen his ship as the Monarchia Redeemed
Wait seriously? That’s awesome
Absolute legends.
Love that campaign. Not playing aw BL is soo cool.
"IT'S BEEN 10 THOUSAND YEARS LET IT GO!"
-Guillaman's last words
lmao
@@zigmus00A
Time is irrelevant in The warp
-Word bearers probably
I would love Logar to reflect on the literal miracles conjured by the sisters of battle. Like “ I am even more right since Emp’s is literally answering faith now like a god.”
Actually that would be good add salt to the wound "my love wasn't good enough father? The hypocrite you have become corpse god."
@@SWProductions100 I'm every new but I believe it's implied to be either way. Either mere faith can do it or the Big E is answering the prayers. GW likes being vague
@@SWProductions100 faith manifests things in WH. Look at the orks for that. So it's very likely that literal trillions of people's faith in the god emperor, in addition to the pyskers sacrificed daily has either made the emperor a god or created a god. I mean the the eldar murder/fucked a god into existence so.
@@akumaking1 oh boy I haven't watched all of it yet but I can try to get it. Emperor "of course you stupid religious zealot, the are hot ass bolter bitchs of course I love them more" something along those lines probably funnier too
@@SWProductions100 that might be a breaking point for Guilimen , which may cause him to break off from the imperium which should be interesting since if he did that then they would be like a old imperium and the new imperium which I remember seeing somewhere
When Abbadon was hiding out in the warp and finally coming back his forces captured a Black Templar patrol. This is the first contact they'd had with mainstream space marines in thousands of years. Upon learning that the Imperium as a wider whole revered the Emperor as a god the whole room including Abby burst out laughing saying stuff like "OMG Lorgar of all people actually won, that's hilarious"
How da fuck did they take Black Templars alive?
@@SolarArmadillo im just assuming Abby is about as good at doing little things as he is on the tabletop
Word br: hahahaha! Hey, hey brother. I won. Imperium believes in The lorgars teachings, you owe me 50 souls.
Word br 2: oh man. That is funny tho.
@@SolarArmadillo They didn’t, they found dead Black Templars and ate their brains. Also Abbadon wasn’t there when it happened.
@@Drag0nSlay3r83 sauce ?
Word Bearers never fell to Chaos, they dove in.
They accepted it, and so remains uncorrupted.
That's the scary/fascinating thing about them. They truly understand how twisted their universe is, how it operates, and knows how to exploit it for their advantage.
And yet their fall still doesnt go anywhere near as hard as Emperor's Children and Fulgrim's... La Fenice is gonna FUCK with Bricky and DK's heads...
@@afireinsidebrad
That's because it's a controlled dive.
Moderation, balance and control are the key reasons for the WB successes
Word Bearers never fell to chaos. -on what Fabius Bile made drugs are you ?
@@bgcvetan A drug called books, especially of the black library variety.
And several talks about how the Word Bearers are completely free from corruption. They maintain balance in their worship and so only reaps the benefits they choose.
All he wanted was the truth!!!!!
54:11 Having been in a server with shy and interacted with her I can confirm the ominous "shy is typing" is a very real thing
How bad was the fear when you saw that?
@@adenkyramud5005 The only time I have ever felt fear from such a thing was when shy was typing I then typed something and she stopped typing and suddenly everyone mentioned she stopped typing and it made me feel like I was the cause for about 5 seconds
@@SpoonieMcspoonington by the emperor that's scary...
@@SpoonieMcspoonington do you actually need to clip your balls yourself or is it okay if you loose them in an accident? just asking to understand how you get to become such a simp
@@SpoonieMcspoonington Whatever you said was probably nowhere near as bad as what she hears from these two idiots on a weekly basis
Best end of any Adeptus Ridiculous? Absolutely the best end of any Adeptus Rediculous. That whole bit was superb and genuinely made me laugh.
100% agreed. Makes me wonder how bad Shy smells.
@@Peanuts1000 that has to be the weirdest thing I've ever hurd and I'm into monsters bro wtf smh
@@Peanuts1000like gun oil and cat litter
@@Peanuts1000 ???
I love how it's now canon that Bricky and DK are either cloned or resurrected to record the new episode every week and then immediately murdered after
>"THREE HUMANS WERE SHOT BUT WHAT ELSE IS NEW"
>guests are an uncommon occurrrence
I think Shy might also be cloned/resurrected each episode. The next Shy clone is the first to arrive, shoots all three of them, uploads the episode to make it appear as if nothing is wrong, and then is surprised when the DK and Bricky clones show up for the next recording. She'll play along and waits for her chance only to be ambushed alongside them by her replacement clone who repeats the cycle.
Oh, the Word Bearers aren't so bad! I mean, you never hear about *them* lighting eldar children on fire. That's something, right?
No, Word Bearers just burn any children who wouldn't follow Lorgar's teaching. And sometimes, they'd burn the children's parents, their friends, their other family members, other people they know, their whole town, the continent they lived in and even the children's own planet, at the same time or in random order, all depending on what they believe the Chaos Gods wanted.
Oh I'm sure the word bearers have lit plenty of eldar children and adults on fire. Have to feed she who thirsts
"Burn one child and you'll never live it down.
Burn a million and it's just Warhammer."
Counterpoint; erebus
They're not racist, I'll give them that - you wouldn't catch them leaving a human child unburnt.
Some fun facts about Blood Ravens:
- Planet of the system they recruit from is called Aurelia (Lorgar *Aurelian* )
- Another one is called like Blessed Lady of the Word Bearers: Cyrene
- Eliphas of Word Bearers called Blood Ravens brothers, while marines from different legions called each other "cousin"
- Word Bearers fought on Kronus during Horus Heresy - Blood Ravens found relics of their chapter there, that were later destroyed by cpt. Davian Thule who found them too be damning and swore silence.
- Ravens seek "truth" about their primarch almost fanatically and focus on the emperor more than other chapters.
- They are gifted with warp powers - Magnus and Lorgar were both powerful psykers (and afaik Lorgar was mainly into divinitation which is strong side of Blood Ravens psykers)
- "Knowledge is power" is quote of Erebus (but also many other characters so it's not that indicating, but it's there)
- There is at least one loyal Word Bearer in 40k "The Anchorite" that can manifest psychic powers like light of the Emperor to shitstomp demons
- Blood Ravens in DoW II fell mainly to Khorne and Nurgle there was no indication of Tzeentch showing any interest in them
- It was hinted that Blood Ravens forgot about their past purposefully
Because of that I like to think we might have loyal chapter made of some loyal remnants of Word Bearers like Anchorite
You know a more cursed possibility? The Blood Ravens are made from a hybrid geneseed, a fusion of Lorgar's and Magnus', with the former coming from a pre-Heresy batch that somehow stabilized the latter to the point the Blood Ravens won't ever be afflicted by the Flesh Change.
The Blood Ravens are also odly worshipfull of the Emperor.
I like to think that the techno monkeys over at mars tried to combine the loyal parts of Magnus and Lorgar to create the Blood Ravens during the Cursed founding.
@@seeingseeer5282 Has there been many records of chapters of mixed gene seed?
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That would also help explain why they weren't affected by the Rubric of Ahriman.
"Just a little..."
I would not be surprised if Shy turns the high pitch(chipmunk) dial on their voices next time! (Lasting as long as the "little" joke)
And they just get subtly smaller and smaller as the video progresses.
Epic
"Okay, the the war is over, the emperor is dead. I will now go to my demon hell planet where Intend to spend the next 10,000 years commiting blasphemy in peace, and also build like 12 thousand cathedrals or something idk."
-Lorgar, probably.
I feel like Lorgar would look at modern 40k, like they said, with acceptance. I can imagine him saying "my God punished me for worshipping him, I turn my back on him, and now you all worship him as I did. Glad to see I was right in the end, but he lost my worship long ago. You can die for your God, and I will kill for mine."
Why do the hardest quotes come from comment sections fr
I like this, where did you get the idea
Except the Imperial Cult is recognized as bad. Guilliman hates it and almost dismantled it. Lorgar is still wrong, everyone else is just sinking to his level
Fun fact about word bearers: they're the only traitor legion after the heresy to stay as a unified faction. Sure, they backstab each other constantly, but they have a hierarchy and systems in place (e.g the Dark council giving orders).
Also, Marduk betrays his superior because he knows for a fact that his superior was going to have him killed. Basically he backstabbed Jarulek before he could betray Marduk.
"It's all Erebus's fault, no one else."
Kor Phaeron outside like "Hey, I did my part!"
“Kharn?” Said Lorgar, “would you like to know who killed Argel Tal?”
I smile and tear up on that line every time.
blood packed soldier.
“ this was your home?”
Word bearer.
“yes and it was beautiful”
Picture of monarchia
Shy was already my favourite member of AdRic for her seemingly neverending assortment of memes and having to edit Bricky's and DK's ramblings, but putting NEFFEX in the outro?
A+ Shy, A+
40:45 Personally DK, I think Lorgar would either feel a sense of smug satisfaction or keel over from laughing so hard at the irony and hilarity of the situation.
I would LOVE to know what Guilliman is going to say to Lorgar when they inevitably meet again. I imagine Guilliman has quite a lot to say to Lorgar after seeing what the Imperium has turned into during the past 10,000 years.
Let's not forget the man started reading the Lectitio Divinitatus at some point in current 40k, so It could go along the lines "yeah, you were right in a way. Doesn't change the shit you've done, and you're a traitor, and I'm going to kill you, but yes, you were right: the Emperor Is pretty much a god!"
Lorgar will be too busy getting bullied by Corvus
Quality episode with a quality ending. It’d be great if this carried on into the next episode and DK and a Ricky’s characters were a translucent blue as if they were ghosts continuing to haunt Shy.
Yes. Great idea.
If my options are Snake Fulgrim or angry Angron, I'll take Perturabo.
based
It's scary how Kyle is just the distraction and the only thing that we know is alive that could face any of the daemon primarchs is the Emperor's Sword and crow Daemon emo boy
Smart choice
Id like it too, but I have a feeling even GW can't properly describe him enough to do him justice other than, "See that Dreadnaught?"
"Yeah"
"Triple its size, quadruple the price, call it Peter Turbo"
@@OvercutHood I imagine him as kinda like a big Obliterator. But with enough firepower to make even the most well armed Knights jealous. His gauntlets have been replaced with Twin Heavy Bolters and flamers. He has missle pods strapped to his hips. His left shoulder has a flashmetal autocannon, and his right shoulder has a Demolisher cannon.
He is a living titan. walking death to all who oppose him.
I remember what happened when the earliest iteration of the Black Legion found out that The Emperor was now referred to as The God Emperor. They were all stunned silent except for the one guy who started laughing so hard, blood started pouring out of his mouth. "The Word Bearers won. They eat dirt and drink shame. They chant prayers to the unwanted truth through bloodied lips. They lost everything. And yet they still won. There is no greater insult"
Curze's crown had an Eldar soulstone in it. Curze named Talos soul hunter and he alone kills Mshen and retrieves the crown with Curze's soul.
Talos' successor has fantastic foresight, he can learn of Curze's scheme and possesses the means and material to bring him back.
If some fucking idiot brought Kurse back, first the last remaining GW fans would be ashamed and the night Lord simps would unironically send threats about yanking their scrotes. And 2 I'm pretty sure Kurse would be so pissed off that he was revived he would straight up do everything in his power to kill Chaos. I can totally see Kurse joining the imperium only to kill Chaos and then himself.
wait what????!?!??!?!?!?1 big scary bat mans coming back booooh yahhhhhhh!
I talked to a friend years ago who works at gw and he made it clear. All primarchs will come back and i said even the dead ones and he repeated all primarchs will return. That was back in 2015
@@thephoenix8722 Even Horus, who was completely wiped from existence?
@@Roark787 Horus already has, the clone
That the Malefic Tome bearing the birthmarks of those whose skins were used to bind it is worse than "merely" a book bound in human skin, is because it reminds us jaded 40K fans that these skins belonged to a *person.* A fictional person, but a person.
A person with thoughts and feelings, hopes and dreams, friends and family and lovers and enemies. They were once like us, alive and aware.
Now nothing remains but their tanned and defiled flesh, used to house blasphemies. We recoil at the thought of their birth marks because it eradicates the mental distance we build up between the skin and its origins, and reminds us in a visceral way that someone was _victimized_ to make that tome. That "human skin" is not just an edgier version of animal leather, but a person's desecrated mortal remains. We are horrified by the birthmarks because it reminds us they were _born._
Yeah, but this is 40k we're talking about, if it wasn't being turned into a book they were probably gonna meet an either equal or even more terrible fate anyway.
Well the should’ve thought about that before they became loyalists
@@alecmiller5296 as if Chaos doesnt mutilate its mortal cultists and feed their souls to daemons.
@@stankobarabata2406 Well they should've thought about that before they became cultists
Not to mention it's an identifiable part of each person. If you knew someone's birth mark and saw that book, you would immediately know the exact name of at least part of the Tome.
Fitting for something which has True Names written within it.
Fun fact: The Word Bearers used to be known as the 'Imperial Heralds', and said name was given by the Emperor himself for their zeal and commitment to his cause. However, they were also known by their Astartes cousins as 'The Iconoclasts' due to the same fiery zeal that led them to burning many enclaves of superstitions during the Unification Wars. They were the Legion that knew what they're made for and they did it with unrelenting, fiery zeal.
Now the Legion has become what they would've stood against once upon a time, their fiery zeal has been twisted and redirected to slavishly serving Chaos, and all of this can be traced to Kor Phaeron and his corrupting influence on Lorgar.
This is why I will always hate Kor Phaeron more than I hate Erebus. The root of the corruption that plagued Lorgar, the Word Bearers and the rest of the Imperium through them has always been Kor Phaeron.
We are not slaves neither are we twisted brother.
FINALLY. SOMEONE ELSE WHO HATES KOR PHAREON MORE THAN EREBUS
@@knightpaladin9841 While Erebus simply IS Chaos Undivided, Kor Phaeron corrupts Lorgar into missing the religious forest for the trees. Erebus embodies "virtue" through action, whereas Kor Phaeron is wrapped up in petty dogmatism like that of IRL Western Churches.
Say what you will about Erebus mistreatment of individual people; he never went out of his way to destroy temples and ways of life in the manner that Kor Phaeron did!
It was all the Emperor's Fault.
@knightpaladin9841 Chaplain Xaphen in The First Heretic is loyal to Erebus' teachings but tells Argel Tal even he finds Kor Phaeron repulsive.
The outro was awesome, the gunshot like last time and then the atmospheric walkout to the car with the drive of, slowly starting this perfectly fitting song, I loved it.
Me too
Same.
A fantastic outro
"you cannot just look at Angron and not be sympathetic."
*Majorkill has entered the chat*
Male pattern baldness
A lot of the discussion in this episode, especially about the engineered loyalty and the Word Bearers extremism reminds me of a part of the 1d4Chan article about the Word Bearers, that i think sums it up pretty well:
"There is a phenomenon of psychology that some people are prone to zealotry. It does not matter what they believe in, when they come to believe in something they believe in it with all their heart. This type of individual who is likely to end up becoming a fanatical member to a certain ideology will, if they somehow become disillusioned with it, often find it easier to adopt an opposing or opposite ideology and be just as fanatical to said new cause rather than simply moderating their commitment to their first ideology as needed and making caveats and exceptions to its general principles. The Word Bearers and Lorgar in particular are this phenomenon at its most extreme."
regarding Marduk....he also had to kill his apostle cause his apostle had also a prophecy where he would reach his great goal by killing Mardhuk...so its kinda self defense
Did that happen in Know No Fear?
@@HistoritorJimaldus nope, first book of the wb series
@@sindrimyr5351 Marduk was the acolyte in the first book. He kills his acolyte in the 3rd book when he and Burias Drak Shal betrayed him
@@knightpaladin9841 no no the third book is whenn he already is a dark apostle and they attack the white consuls
First book is where they get the necron artefact and Marduk fights his current dark apostle
@@sindrimyr5351 yeah. Which is also when he kills his acolyte
Wild take: neither Kurze or Ferrus are truly dead. After all why would a Primarch die just because you killed them? My flimsy claims to back this up are that M'shen was specifically ordered to bring back Kurze's head, which ostensibly was to confirm the kill, and his crown contained an Eldar spiritstone but if you put both of those factors together then that very much sounds like the ideal way to both take a Primarch into custody alive and rehabilitate them. Primarchs are very much capable of regrowing their entire body even if they aren't perpetuals and we haven't seen any evidence either way that Vulkan was the only one of those particular walking plot holes.
Same goes for Ferrus, the warp entity that was bound to him to provide his soul just needs a new vessel. If Cawl can replicate the full Immortis Gland I can fully see him making a comeback.
A headless warrior was leading the first Legion of the Dammned in the War in the Webway against the daemons, also Malchador implied that if they had the body of Ferrus he and Big E could revive him
I like how the Iron warriors are the exact opposite of the word bearers. Instead of worshiping demons they just capture them enslave them and then stick’em in a machine!
Fun Fact Games workshop in the 1990s actually produced a death metal Album by the band Bolt Thrower and Bolt Thrower ofyen used 40K art for cover art they also produced the British reliance of Saxon's Forever Free eitch had a Space Marine Attack bike on its cover
Lorgar doesn't feel regret, they actually feel disgusted and find it hilarious that the emperor is a god now. He does find it funny that the emperor is now revealed to be a god,it ironic because now he's a broken god screaming and dying in a hell the exact opposite of what he wanted.
World bearers Pre-Herasy: Oh no, you burnt down our Home city you bastards
World bearers in the 40k: We will burn down a city for our gods
Speaking of Perturabo always seeing the Eye of Terror, if someone, E Money or Malcador probably, had told him what the Eye is, he would have stayed loyal purely out of spite.
This Primarch keeps himself in loyalty with the power of sheer anger alone. (puts up the pic of the bird)
the dark apostle trilogy is what originally got me into warhammer.
Same. Been playing Word Bears ever since
The Word Bearers are like Ned Flanders when Homer pretended to be God with a loud speaker. XD
I’m a little sad they didn’t discuss my boy Zardu Layak and his blade slaves. The man has a sick mask-oath thing, successfully bound Daemon Fulgrim to himself, and on top of that chose to side with Horus over Lorgar when Lorgar tried to usurp him. Also his mini and his blade slaves are siiiick.
5/10 I was promised word bears. No bears, only words were provided
Hell yeah, time to get obsessively interested in yet another 40K faction! The whole part of the dark apostles handing out books of Lorgar to random slaves is killing me, just handing em out like "Here. Have a book of Lorgar because you're epic. Epically fucked if you don't take it, I mean."
Thanks for pushing me towards yet another army lol, I think Bricky, DK, Shy and Kirioth have sent me towards like at least 6-7 small growing armies at this point.
To keep on theme with the podcast:
Word bearers: Let's just do a little sacrifice...just a little one...yeh...just a little sacrifice
Lorgar: Sure...just a little sacrifice
The Word Bearers are VERY good at their job. It just so happens they're doing the wrong job.
It would be really interesting for Lorgar and the word bearers to come in contact with Celestine because in a way she is an example that faith in the emperor does conjure miracles.
Seriously, I'm starting to believe that Shy is my spirit animal.
57:35 Shy knows what the Curse of Monkey Island is, and that's made her a million times more amazing in my eyes.
YO!
This and "Shy get me out of here" on the bolter episode were the best EFFING endings for an episode.
That talented mysterious bisch
I started watching because of Bricky and DK's shenanigans, but at this point, Shy has my adoration.
I kinda want an offshoot series of DK explaining anime to Bricky and watching Bricky's confusion
The reason the holy beatin' stick is important is it was one of the *first* acts of treachery by the Word Bearers. It's not so much who got beat, but the circumstances around it.
Daemons looking at Word Bearers committing war crimes against Ultramarines: Good, typical stuff.
Violence against one random White Scar boi: OH BABY A TRIPLE!
What I got from this ep is that the World Bearers are the only legion that gives out pamphlets
Love the guest host, always nice to have more 40k fans about.
Also when you all gonna do a lil' battle report for DK's first game?
Its time for him to join us, ....one of us
I think the reason I’m such an UM fan is cause no matter what topic or faction is up to discussion it always comes back to UM. Hate us cause they ain’t us
courage and honor indeed
The fun thing I found out recently about abaddon on the tabletop..... Ctan shard of the nightbringer bypasses his wound per phase cap and flattens him
"THREE HUMANS WERE SHOT BUT WHAT ELSE IS NEW"
Topical today, aren't we Shy?
When you think about it, all the chaos primarch got vindicated. Except Magnus but that's because he didn't exactly leave on purpose.
In the song at the end, I can only here them singing "So tell me Aurelian believe."
I do hope that Guilliman has a confrontation with Lorgar rather than Angron now that the World Eaters are getting their own codex. He's already had fights with Maggy and Morty.
Lorgar's and Guilliman's history combined with how the Imperium is now would be very interesting, especially after the Dark Imperium books...
I just had the realization that Eren and the Word Bearers have a lot in common. Justice for Shiganshina! Marley was an act of self defense!
Kirioth *approaches severed head of Kurze and presses A*
"A quick study of the body reveals that the thug is still alive, and merely pretending to be dead."
God I loved the credits scene. Thank you Shy!
Legendarily beautiful work
Dam shy went ballz out with that ending
Milestone idea: you and a number of guest just have a roundtable debate about... everything possible for a set time.
That'd be hilarious and also insightful.
The Purpose of the Burning of Monarchia goes over most people's head. Yes. It was a dress down of Lorgar and his legions efficiency.
But the reason why he did that was to teach Lorgar a lesson he was too angered, saddened and shocked to here.
"Beware of Gods, for the do not care about you and are capricious and malicious.
They would take what you love and burn it for their own amusement. If you wish me to be a god. This is how one would act"!
And Lorgar and the legion commits atrocity after atrocity in the dark gods name. Many die because of the amusement of demons. This is the truth Lorgar never wanted to admit. Because he always wanted a god. It didn't matter if it was a benevolent or evil one.
Not to mention it wasn't a one off thing. The burning of monarchia was the final censure. He received multiple censures prior to it.
Chad Big E respecter, you.
Did big E day that quote?
Funny joke at the end, but none of us would believe that Shy's legs can reach the pedals of a car. She just a little Shy after all.
I can’t believe they ended Adeptus Ridiculous without doing an episode about the blood angels.
Kirioth: *mentioning how daemon Lorgar can 1v1 any primarch*
Me: *looks at Corvus Corax folding Daemon Lorgar like a piece of paper*
"THREE HUMANS WERE SHOT BUT WHAT ELSE IS NEW"
Damn Shy, calm down 🤣
I really want to see perturabo as a huge obliterator
not as big as magnus and mortarion but inbetween those and guilliman in size
Kirioth is spot on. Noise Marines are the best unit in 40k. They use death metal to kill people to death in the most metal way possible. Riffs that quite literally melt faces. Power chords that destroy power armour. Blasting ghettos with their Blastmasters. They kill with song, warrior poets all.
It's not the Word Bearer's fault; I blame the Eldar
The Eldar are atleast 1/4th responsible
The "Shy! Take out the gun!" always gets me xD
Here in the UK the podcast always goes up just as I get home from work, and I'll be danged if it isn't my favourite night of the week. Thanks guys.
If I had to choose one Traitor Legion to join, it might be the Word Bearers.
The worst part about Lorgar is that even when he gets lore, it's not even because he does something. The most recent lore iirc just mentions him because Corvus is demon batman trying to murder him.
The Anchorite is hands down one of the single most bad ass characters 40K has ever had, and of course, he’s a Word Bearer. He believes and has a good argument for his father failing his biggest test. It was The Anchorite, not Lorgar, not only the Divinitatus, that gave the imperium their faith. Absolute Max Chad.
He surrendered to the Ultramarines after having a “fuck this perpetual cycle of death I’m out” and was tempted by daemons whilst imprisoned on Terra.
The few Loyalists of the traitor legions are almost universally amazing characters, very often overshadowing their fathers.
Lorgar and the Word Bearers themselves are such an insane, and frankly one of my favourite sci-fi re-telling of the whole cause and effect of militancy, religious fundamentalism, a lack of supportive father figures and forbidden knowledge. We see it a lot but it’s so 👨🍳 💋.
Edit: 1:00:03 we all know this is true.
Also DK the Ultramarines hate is really a meme man, they’ve been a pretty interesting bunch for many many years and many books now. Hell, they’re probably the ones who would most likely embody the reasonable and humane attitudes you like to see and with how Bobby g was brought back, he openly asked Xenos for a possible alliance so… naw man. :)
Really appreciate the response to 1:01:28 onwards.
Also, as for Curze being “dead”…. Remember his crown, Bricky?… yeah.
I know GW wouldn't agree, but I'd love to see a 40k animatic where it's the Word Bearers reinacting the Book of Mormon musical
Shy NEEDS to be a speaker guest on the podcast one day.
48:14 When I think about Fulgrim's constant pursuit of self-improvement, and not accepting regression, I start viewing him from a Tzeentchian perspective.
I started 40k when the spiritual liege was in full swing, i kept out of games because of grey knights
I main traitor guards because ward inspired me to play something not fleshed out
I love the man for adding so much to the hobby because he inspired so many people to add to non marines
I'm reading a story called "The Weaver option" right now you're fighting word bears are getting absolute and massacred! It's glorious.
Now that ending wasn't what I was expecting. Great work shy now we don't have to listen to all this Lorgar defending.
Lorgar: I worshiped the emperor before it was cool.
I think the important thing to remember about "how would Lorgar feel about being right?" Is that no one gets what they want when they join chaos
In the battle of calth book they mention that the real nutbags were send to calth on purpose to cull them from the legion. So they at least stayed a bit "normal" even during the heresy.
kirioth talks about traitor patriarchs like a disappointed teacher who saw such potential in the problem children.
Next Patreon goal so that Kirioth becomes a permanent member of the team? This quartet is just so awesome every time.
I thought they were going to talk about Lorgar's pilgrimage this episode, but I guess they had plenty to cover already.
Never change Shy, you are my favorite host from the show and thats something considering you are the only one that never talks
The UPM is the guy that gets to keep any money left if a film wraps under budget. They're basically IRL Erebus clones.
Honestly I wouldn't mind having Kirioth as a permament co-host. They all 3 have a great dynamic together
Erebus is the reason why we collect plastic miniatures and assemble armies out of them to recreate battles set in the war he started!
Congrats Shy. This is the hardest laugh you've given me so far in Adric.
I heard a rumor that Ward was writing a Ultramarines codex, and then it got changed into a general Space Marines codex near the end.
The ending is great... "Shy take out the gun and kill us all" tree gunshots