Pushing DIY CNC to the LIMITS Milling an Aluminum Star

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024

КОМЕНТАРІ • 70

  • @PiefacePete46
    @PiefacePete46 Рік тому +2

    That was unexpected!... thanks for your honesty. 😊
    Looking forward to more. (I mean more videos about your mill, not more crashes!)
    Liked & Subscribed.

  • @ttgtomr
    @ttgtomr Рік тому +1

    That's a pretty aggressive cut for one of those 24k spindles. Nicely done. You'd do well to get some coolant. Chip evacuation is pretty important

  • @GelX
    @GelX Рік тому +1

    Really nice milling 👍

  • @manuelortis3747
    @manuelortis3747 Рік тому +2

    Un ottimo lavoro!!! 👍

  • @carbonarne675
    @carbonarne675 Рік тому

    Really good cam work!

    • @testboga5991
      @testboga5991 7 місяців тому +1

      I'm not so sure. This could have been faster with better constant chipload.

  • @CATANOVA
    @CATANOVA Рік тому +5

    I went beyond the limits and watched it at 2X speed. It was more cool 👍

  • @johnharding9936
    @johnharding9936 10 місяців тому

    Nice job, I'm doing similar. Your surface speed on Op1 is a bit too high though, around 603, you should be between 250 and 450 really for roughing aluminium with this style of cutter. From my calculations your op is drawing around 0.91kW. Seems to work pretty well but the spindle is bogging down a bit, the max torque of your spindle is probably lower down in the speed range so I would try figure out where it is and to optimise for that. Try increasing the chipload to something like 0.08mm/tooth and reducing the Vc (surface speed) you should be able to achieve very similar MRR whilst moving the spindle speed down to say, 18000rpm, where it has likely a lot more torque (I calculate 83cm3 MRR with these changes so you don't loose out, really. Where exactly your spindle has its greatest torque is not clear without the spec sheet but it is almost certainly not at full speed) Manufacturer should have a chart. A 6mm cutter with similar settings, and 0.07mm/tooth, should get you to around 63cm3/min with 0.72kW @20krpm. YG1 roughers are similar closer to 0.17mm/tooth but you'd need a bit more horsepower for that. A 6mm YG1 does 117cm3/min but needs 1.34kW.
    So an example would be (Vc 464, Fz 0.08mm/tooth, RPM 18500, Feed 4440, DOC 10, WOC 1.8 (23%) - MRR 80 to 83cm3/min (ish) - Power 0.91kW

    • @johnharding9936
      @johnharding9936 10 місяців тому

      incidentally, for similar YG1 tools, you would normally go 1.5* diameter for the DOC and 50% Diameter radial WOC. I haven't calculated around that in your case with regards Horse Power and MRR but worth mentioning since they are quite similar tools in terms of geometry (I also use DLC tools like this too, they are good but every machine is different).

  • @SquidHunting
    @SquidHunting 5 місяців тому

    How much did this machine end up costing to make?

  • @ArtutMarkov
    @ArtutMarkov Рік тому

    Эх... Коварную сталь бы показали как обрабатывает или нержавейку какую.

    • @marson_cnc
      @marson_cnc  Рік тому +1

      A me non interessa lavorare l'acciaio, quindi mi basta che lavori bene metalli morbidi.

  • @alessio55555
    @alessio55555 Рік тому

    wow, have you done some video on the steel?

    • @marson_cnc
      @marson_cnc  Рік тому

      No, milling steel Is not on my plans.

    • @alessio55555
      @alessio55555 Рік тому

      @@marson_cnc but do you think machine is able to do it?

    • @marson8870
      @marson8870 Рік тому

      @@alessio55555sure, but 24k rpm spindle is not good for steel, unless you use very small mills, 4 mm and below.

  • @julianweiser9985
    @julianweiser9985 Рік тому

    Nice work! I think you switched Ae and Ap, is that correct?

  • @shiznak8098
    @shiznak8098 Рік тому

    Great work :) Did you try the same roughing operation with the finishing tool. Is there more load on the spindle or less?

    • @marson_cnc
      @marson_cnc  Рік тому

      I didn't try but the load should be more with a standard mill.

    • @shiznak8098
      @shiznak8098 Рік тому +1

      @@marson_cnc Thank you, i googled and seems to be around 25% more load. Maybe you can increase feed on chamfering, i normaly do 0.07mm/tooth. With your rpm and two flute its something around 3300mm/min. Have a great day :)

  • @brettturnage533
    @brettturnage533 Рік тому

    Put me to shame with the speed of that second procedure. I’ve got to go play with my speeds and feeds.

  • @priestgaming3335
    @priestgaming3335 Рік тому

    Is there any vacancy in this company ❤

  • @Nunak91
    @Nunak91 Рік тому

    Roughing should be described as ae 2 mm and ap 10 mm or am I mistaken?
    How much ae you took on side finishing? 0,3 mm?

    • @marson_cnc
      @marson_cnc  Рік тому +1

      Yes, ap 10 ae 2. Mistake was mine. Final side pass of 0.1 mm.

    • @Nunak91
      @Nunak91 Рік тому

      @@marson_cnc I always thought 0,1 mm is too thin (chattering, rubbing) but here it looks great. Gotta try thinner finishing.

    • @Windows350
      @Windows350 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Nunak91really depends. in soft aluminium alloys you can leave a little bit more, but in steel 0.1 is enough mostly

  • @mrjackdavies95
    @mrjackdavies95 Рік тому

    Do you have a link to the 20mm face mill? Thanks!

    • @marson_cnc
      @marson_cnc  Рік тому

      m.it.aliexpress.com/item/4000343935726.html?gatewayAdapt=Pc2Msite

  • @paulywilson445
    @paulywilson445 Рік тому

    What cnc machine are you using?

    • @marson_cnc
      @marson_cnc  Рік тому

      I made it from scratch. Link for the 3d model in description.

  • @mizarstifmeister7298
    @mizarstifmeister7298 Рік тому

    Where did you get that spindle? also the run time is impresive, mine would have taken something like 3 hours to do that lol

    • @marson_cnc
      @marson_cnc  Рік тому +1

      From AliExpress. 1.8 kW ATC. It Is the weakness of this machine, the structure can handle way more Power but i don't Need that.

  • @rueuflecomte2539
    @rueuflecomte2539 8 місяців тому

    учиться и учиться тебе ещё

  • @testboga5991
    @testboga5991 7 місяців тому

    The CAM on this part was mediocre. Too much variable chipload, way too slow.

    • @marson8870
      @marson8870 5 місяців тому

      Lets see your diy machine do better...

  • @amrsvn-uf2jk
    @amrsvn-uf2jk Рік тому +1

    How much NM(newton force) / Kw of a spindle power as minimum required for steel milling process ? please accurate as possible

    • @marson_cnc
      @marson_cnc  Рік тому +1

      You can download the Sandvik calculator app and discover It by yourself. With small diameter mill (4 mm and less) forces involved are very low even with steel.

    • @amrsvn-uf2jk
      @amrsvn-uf2jk Рік тому

      @@marson_cnc Im super thankful to You for Your most perfect answer as the most helpful I got.

  • @jonjon3829
    @jonjon3829 Рік тому +2

    build log/pictures?

    • @marson_cnc
      @marson_cnc  Рік тому +5

      SOON.

    • @iamthebiker
      @iamthebiker Рік тому

      Also interested in more info on the machine. Thank you

  • @Doug10106
    @Doug10106 Рік тому +2

    Where did you buy the DLC coated chip breaking mill?

    • @marson_cnc
      @marson_cnc  Рік тому

      it.aliexpress.com/item/1005004639835481.html

    • @littleshopofrandom685
      @littleshopofrandom685 Рік тому

      @@marson_cnc Do you find the DLC coating to be functional, or just pretty colours? (as in, do you see a difference between them and uncoated? Did the coating rub off?). I bought what seem to be the same ones from a different seller, have not tried them yet, but I am told sometimes "rainbow DLC" is fake on these and no different than uncoated.

    • @Windows350
      @Windows350 11 місяців тому

      @@littleshopofrandom685i tried a finishing endmill (without chip breakers) with dlc because i wanted to mill dry and the tool could handle way more sfm before clogging in aluminium

  • @mynamisis
    @mynamisis Рік тому +1

    What is that face mill?

    • @marson_cnc
      @marson_cnc  Рік тому

      m.it.aliexpress.com/item/4000343935726.html?gatewayAdapt=Pc2Msite

  • @Lucas_sGarage
    @Lucas_sGarage 8 місяців тому

    Where did you buy the surfacing tool ?

  • @dolfstromer3498
    @dolfstromer3498 Рік тому +1

    Much more rpm, optimal 15-16 thousands

    • @marson_cnc
      @marson_cnc  Рік тому +1

      Impossible with this type of spindle. I tried and It clogged.

    • @BuildItAnyway
      @BuildItAnyway Рік тому +1

      Try dlc and ethanol mist

    • @marson_cnc
      @marson_cnc  Рік тому +3

      ​@@BuildItAnyway in this video i used DLC coating mills and ethanol with MQL.

    • @BuildItAnyway
      @BuildItAnyway Рік тому

      @@marson_cnc what kind of alu are you using? With those two items sticking alu shoukd be very rare. Perhaps check rounout and or vibration of the spindle. Bot of these cause uneven cuts -> heat -> alu sticking

    • @marson8870
      @marson8870 Рік тому

      @@BuildItAnyway sorry, by clogging I meant that the spindle gets stuck. No problems with material sticking.

  • @titaninventor
    @titaninventor Рік тому

    excellent. Colleague👍

  • @geekoid183
    @geekoid183 Рік тому

    What a nice mill !
    For the next time, just know that you confused ae and ap 😉

    • @marson_cnc
      @marson_cnc  Рік тому +1

      I reversed the values ​​in the roughing operation. Thanks for the tip.

    • @geekoid183
      @geekoid183 Рік тому +1

      Also, thanks for providing the 3d model of your CNC !
      I have a few questions 😅
      What was the design process, sizing of components, simulation etc ?
      What would you do differently apart from the servo if you were to design and build another one ?

  • @Flipla_Scrip
    @Flipla_Scrip Рік тому

    What spindle did you go with?

  • @istvan.palotai
    @istvan.palotai Рік тому

    sooo much Vc..... but why? :d

    • @marson_cnc
      @marson_cnc  Рік тому

      I don't know. Existence Is a mistery.