I absolutely agree with Lindsay’s read on Jon Stewart. I’ve said for years I think he’s largely responsible for much of the degradation in our public discourse, since he taught liberals to simply mock anything they disagreed with. Great for entertainment, horrible for society.
It's an amazing irony that he went on Crossfire deploring them as ruining discourse, when in fact Stewart was by far waaaay more harmful to American discourse.
In defense of JS, some ideas are best ridiculed by ridicule. It might sometimes be a bit unintellectual, but at the same time it's often enough the only really _persuasive_ method. Let's keep that tool handy for when it's needed, which is often enough. Not that I'm saying there's no problem with JS, there definitely is a problem. Just don't underestimate the usefulness of ridicule as a method.
I don’t think this doctor guy is a real alligator. His head looks photoshopped and his mouth doesn’t move when he talks. Come to think of it, I doubt he’s actually on roller skates either. Notice how they never actually show his feet? But he really does destroy James Lindsay !
"In the purple trunks with white stripe... we have James"The Destroyer of WOKE worlds"Lindsay". He's back on Twitter and ready to fight "In the white trunks with purple stripe... we have Dr."The Destroyer of Illogic"RollerGator" The gloves are off and the Gator head is on tight We want a clean match, gentlemen. There will be no preferred pronouns or denying trans right to exist The referee for today's match.... Benjamin"The CALMversationalist"Boyce and the Boyce of Reason podcast.... "Let's get ready to GRUMMMMMMMMMMMBBBBBBBBLLLLLLLLLLLLE" 🐈⬛
Sam Harris interviewed Bankman-Fried one-on-one and "couldn't detect any deception." lol why does that not surprise me in the least? Not that Sam has the skills or expertise to sniff out financial fraud or determine when a total stranger is lying.... but it's just on-brand somehow. This is the guy who said, and I quote, "smart people on Twitter are curating my information diet."
Well it speaks to the point made about substituting social signaling for discernment. The most interesting thing about SBF is perhaps how keenly he knew exactly what to signal to elicit trust, confidence, etc.
@@disturbedfan545 lol ok. Antisemitism is for bitter losers. Watch Gavin McInnes's Kayne interview. He makes good points about not judging people by race
@@RegularCupOfJoe it's recorded - if you look up iowa state university lecture series it's in the recordings tab. You have to log in to see it - either through the school or some other website I'm unfamiliar with.
2:31:30 This is the weak point in every classic Liberal's argument...that you can eliminate the power struggle by being rational enough. You can never, because humans are human. There absolutely must be a standard of power and society, and those societies must be small, local, and governable. And most likely Christian.
Some nuance: an ed prof in my (English) university warned me to take a critical view of Freire in my thesis, because he's Marxist. Not all English speaking universities are captured in the way described. Being critical is an important aspect of scholarship.
As a Brazilian, I apologize for Freire's existence. I haven't read Lindsay's book yet but it's probably very good, I'll probably translate it to portuguese, does someone knows how to contact James?
@@KMScattergood communists are not proponents of dialogue. Either you agree with them sexualizing children or you're a "fascist". You only "propose dialogue" in one direction. That direction is child abuse and brain washing
Yeah, you can tell James Lindsay was squirming in embarrassment from the BLATANT FACTS that James Lindsay snuck into James Lindsay's mind. Edit: I used Utterly, which is redundant use of the word as OP said Utterly himself. I hope James brought some ointment for the BURN that he gave James.
Interesting about James's explanation of idea laundering, and circular citations. I first heard of an "academic" doing that when the Ward Churchill controversy happened. He'd ghost-write an article, and then he'd cite that to support one of his own papers. I think he did that more than once. Another thing he did, which really chapped some academics' hides, was he would cite someone else's work, and completely mischaracterize what they said. He'd just make shit up about their research, but he'd cite them as his source for it. He did this for years. These academics would get wind that he did this, and complain, but CU Boulder just ignored them, until his "little Eichmann's" paper blew up in their faces, and they couldn't ignore this stuff anymore. It seemed like what ultimately did him in, just from some conversations I had with people who worked at CU, was he was found to have plagiarized other people's work, as well. That was the ultimate sin that they just couldn't tolerate. Though, now, I doubt they'd get rid of anyone for doing that.
That explanation of people that spend their lives using social signals as a marker for authenticity so that's why they view people that don't care to do it and just be authentic genuinely was just about the best thing I've ever heard. Suddenly so many things make so much sense.
@@markstuber4731 I gotchu bro: That explanation of: "people that spend their lives using social signals as a marker for authenticity, so that's why they view people that don't care to do it and just be authentic, genuinely" was just about the best thing I've ever heard. Suddenly so many things make so much sense. *disclaimer: read at your own risk. Preservation of metroidman3893's original intended meaning is not guaranteed.
41:01 I kept a T9 phone all the way up until 2018. No one was/is required to own or use a smartphone, right? But by 2018, I was essentially forced to buy a smartphone b/c the job I started, all the managers communicated by an app, pictures would not send, I would not be included in group texts, etc. You won't have to be mandated to buy into a product if literally not using it will prevent you from participating in normal society.
You three in a conversation is a highlight of my month, Benjamin. I do not often listen to you as much as I did prior (2018-2020), but I enjoy you three in combo. immensely. Thanks for the effort.
I love James. Loyal from the word go. I never even started Twitter. It's not hard to see how extremely, extremely ugly it is with negativity. Positivity, awesome. God bless ya. Love ya. Spread positive shit for centuries and miles to come. Negativity, nope. Fuck that
You make a good point. Fair enough. I am guilty of that. For real. Honestly I wish comments never existed. I wouldn't miss it. It's like a product you didn't know you wanted and then it comes out and your like I love this.
I made the mistake of eating far too much freeze dried garlic. I can't stop farting. Thank you for giving me a couple hours of entertainment while I sit in the living room at 3am to spare my wife and dog the horrid stench of massive amounts of fiber gas and sulfer compounds blasting from my ass. Also good job thinking a bunch
@@sillygoose4472 Karl Marx was a right wing White man. I will watch that. That is _one_ of the views on the Woke Left, that all the old Marxists were old White European men, so the only Marxists worth your time are Black lesbians or Black trans or even better, Black non-binary.
I understand what you mean James about truth being subjective/objective. However, the issue that I have with the modern world in general (from both sides) is that everything is taken so literally due to the materialism of the Enlightenment era. Everything is about the material plane. We have to get back to a balance of understanding that symbolism and spiritual/metaphysical meaning matters in our lives. My hope is that in this post-Enlightenment era we will pursue the symbolic/spiritual again and also integrate the knowledge and rigorous study of the material world that we gained from the Enlightenment. We have lost our way as humans. The end result of such a focus on materialism from the Enlightenment is why we are constantly in a battle between communism and capitalism. We as a society need to put an emphasis for the things that are NOT material so that we will finally potentially rid ourselves of this ongoing battle between the two warring brothers of materialism. All the arguments for capitalism/communism come from materialism. We might finally be able to get beyond this if we can value more than what we can tangibly see.
There's nothing inherently materialistic about free market capitalism. The opposite is true. The core concept of free market capitalism is that people should engage with each other based on voluntaristic relationship. Whether that relationship is materialistic or spiritual is completely up to the participants of that relationship. That everything needs to be just based on material profit is marxist caricature of capitalism. Capitalism is a framework, it has nothing to say what you fill it with.
@@misarthim6538 The very name of capitalism was ascribed to it by communist. That's why I think it gets conflated so much with the characture that they created of it. It's the way humans have always traded goods and services. The system became more complicated over time as it got bigger, but it's still basically the same principles. You provide me something and say what you believe it's value is, and I decide if it's worth what you're claiming.
You're talking about economic systems that determine the economic situation for millions of people. That has nothing to do with religion, spirituality, or anything you're trying to force into it. You're attempting to insert God into what belongs to Cesar. The Enlightenment was good for religion because it helped us stop burning people and torturing them for things beyond their control. Whether you want to say that loss of control is due to demons or drugs, it's still beyond their control and beating them or killing them doesn't help them. It helped us to better understand the words that were given so that we no longer required others interpreting it. Science and religion don't conflict with each other. Understanding what forces caused the sea to split doesn't change that it was a miracle such a rare phenomenon occurred exactly when it needed to. The miracle is still intact. Knowing science doesn't take away the fact that this creation of the universe and life is so incredibly complex and works so perfectly together that it's nearly impossible to not believe there was intelligent design behind it. Using the gifts God created for us to use isn't what you're attempting to claim it is. He gave us all this and it would be wrong to not use it to further our existence as He instructed us to do.
Coming back now to listen to the 3rd hour. Checked the mail and was happy to receive James and Helen's reader-friendly version of Cynical Theories. Am now listening to what's coming from the Oxford Union. That will be EPIC!!!
i consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this-who will count the votes, and how. - joseph stalin this quote always flashes in my mind when i see someone discussing 100% digital finance systems. the only extraordinarily important thing is who and how will enter the final digits.
Daaaaaamn Benjamin! Y’all laid down a TON of really really SMART and HELPFUL material here that provides some of the best summations of a handful of topics, which can be used going forward to produce a lot of super necessary clarity. 😎👍👍
Along the lines of how to be an effective dissident, I think I'd have to go old school. New Testament old school. What you need are not killer talking points. What you need is to persist questions that the Pharisees can't answer without either agreeing with you or giving away the whole game. There's nothing you can phrase so perfectly that it will change minds that don't want to be changed, or so perfectly that the establishment cannot misconstrue it, hire false witnesses, etc. The establishment controls the ideological, cultural, and political space. The only game to play is to ask questions that can only be answered in a way that harms the establishment. DON'T provide an answer, because that lets them off the hook for answering. They'll just turn you into a punching bag to distract the people from their non-answer and prevent people from thinking through the question themselves. Questions and silence are your biggest weapons as a dissident in an inimical establishment. And keep asking and waiting. People don't need answers or information these days. They need to be encouraged to think for themselves.
Liberation theology is not just in the domain of the Roman Catholic Church. My husband went to Princeton Theological Seminary in the 80s and it was taught there as one perspective of theology.
Sam Harris is the perfect example that shows how being rational alone is not good enough, he is a Statist. Humans are great at rationalising their actions and emotions. We also need to value principals, ethics and morality. Most people don't have the interest, intelligence, time, will or fortitude to evaluate their principals or life's philosophy on their own. Most people will simply adopt what everyone around them are practicing. This actually worked reasonably well within the Christian and Judaean framework. Christianity basically invented the idea of Individualism and individual responsibility. In Western society these values needs to be learned or instilled from generation to generation, that is perhaps why some people believe that you cannot be purely neutral. It will take at least a generation to get away from the social programming that has been occurring for decades now. Social justice also has a big phycological component, which James doesn't really acknowledge. There are always people who are not willing or interested in taking responsibility for themselves, this can develop into having elements of psychopathy. That being said, I really do enjoy all of James' valuable work and analysis. I wish he would analyse people such as Von Mises as well.
To your point about James missing the psychopath angle, he posted a podcast on the New Discourses channel on that very subject. Perhaps he didn't touch on it here.
Watching these three wonderful and very thoughtful intellectual people find a moment where they can simply cut loose and snipe is absolutely hilarious. What a guilty pleasure this particular video is.
Ignoring that in practice liberalism is subverted almost immediately. His understanding of “authority is merit based” is, regardless of any society’s political formula, the basis of all authority that has ever existed. Even for the medieval monarchists and the divine right of kings, a monarch loses the Mandate of Heaven when he governs poorly. A dictator loses the right to govern if he does so poorly and is often removed. What really varies from formula to formula is the ease by which someone who governs without merit can be removed. It is ostensibly easy in a democratic republic but with the inevitable advent of parties it’s practically very difficult, as each representative is merely one head of a many-headed hydra that is the party. Cut off one only for another to grow back. I might remove one democratic rep from my state, let’s say, but my rep never really represented my interests or even had a singular voice of their own. They were simply an additional bean for Nancy Pelosi (or whatever cabal dictates the Democrat agenda) to count on her side. Washington warned us about parties yes, but they are inevitable. You cannot stop factionalism from strangling a liberal democracy. No reactionary objects to the idea that ultimately a ruler must be accountable to those he rules over. Reactionaries disagree with all the other crap built onto that idea.
28:53 Reminds me of the story of some guy who paid for his taxes with physical pennies (partly as a protest over taxes). Just slapped a big box of them down on the counter. They called the bomb squad out, lol.
Interior crocodile alligator. I drive a Chevrolet movie theater. I find the "drag queens are the same as Hooters girls" argument fascinating in how detached from reality it is. First of all, no one is saying a parent cannot take their child to a drag show. Just as they are free to take them to a Hooters. There are people arguing that it is not prudent and probably immoral. And that is fine, we all have the right to our own individual beliefs. Second, a parent allowing their child to go to an establishment that showcases binary sexes is not provocative. Third, if Hooters girls are the same as drag queens, when is the Hooters story hour starting? Are schools going to promote activities with very young students involving Hooters girls in the same manner they are with drag queens? If so, why? If not, why? Why promote one over the other if they are the same?
Drag Pedagogy is a very serious (and fun!! yay!!) academic paper on capturing the imagination of young children with campy performances. If the kids notice that they're being instructed by pervs, that becomes part of the show. One of the stated points is for young children to identify with and welcome Drag strangers on the street. I don't think Hooters pedagogy exists as an academic theory of education, but I'll be sure to look that up next.
@@gg_rider You said, "Dr@g P3d@gogy is a very serious (and fun!! yay!!) academic paper on capturing the imagination of y0ung ch!Idren with campy performances. If the kids notice that they're being instructed by p3rvs, that becomes part of the show. One of the stated points is for y0ung ch!Idren to identify with and welcome Dr@g strangers on the street. I don't think Hooters p3d@gogy exists as an academic theory of education, but I'll be sure to look that up next."(I edited it in hopes of dodging whatever got it shadowbanned). Can you elaborate a bit more? I am not sure I am following.
The problem with them taking a child to a drag show is that it's in a place it's illegal for someone of that age to be, a bar or night club. They have a 18+ requirement because of the things that occur there just like a strip club has a legal age limit. Hooters is not regulated like that because those things don't occur there. If they want to expose their child to that, they are perfectly welcome to within their own home. The rest of your comment is fine.
Wait, is clapping offensive now too? Is it a sign of patriarchy and an imposition of unwelcome and unexpected noise to scare the sensitive souls among us? What memo dud I miss? :D
Lol, it almost worked! I had to check the comments first to make sure it wasn't bait. Cynical Theories is a great read, but as a teacher, I had to listen in bits to not be over-triggered before going back into my classroom. I'm still working on it It's not so bad in my school for now, anyway
He picked him up with one arm and with the other just repeatedly slammed a book of facts into his nose! More than destroyed! He was rendered unemployable!
@@amyb.6368 Here is what Revelation 13:16-18 says: 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. So it is something that controls us financially. My guess is an implant that allows you to access your financial records. It will be sold as security, access and tax accountability.
@mustang607 ... Science can ONLY win, if Dr. Fauci himself approves of this content. Since that not likely and he IS "The Science" ... only feelings can win 😿
'me too' (I couldn't resist stealing the 'woke' reference, and using it for the 'good' for which it was intended. Before it's corruption by the 'left'. Te he he ... )
@@carolynbrightfield8911 ... Would this be the Carolyn of Aussie? 🦘or do I have you confused with another wonderful chatter from across the pond? 🐈⬛purr... meow... head bonk
29 mins in; yeah convenience, I always heard in China 'it's so convenient' and got blank expressions when I explained why convenience might sometimes become a real inconvenience..
I know the title is click bate, but I like this grouping, and James is easier for to listen to when he's in conversation and has to stop and explain his research and thinking instead of just monologing about the rabbit hole he's gotten stuck in. Think James does good work, but he does go off without others to bounce his ideas off
1992-93 as the beginning of this movement sounds right. That was the only year I spent at Illinois State University, generally regarded as a teacher college. The School Crest bore a Chaucer Quote: "and gladely wold he learne, and gladely teche" not sure if I got the Middle-English spelling accurately, but as a direct quote from The Canterbury Tales, profound. You can guess the objection was to the gendered pronoun, and now it is "gladly we learn and teach" pretty bland. (Of note- Author David Foster Wallace taught in the English Dept. during that time)
Re: the banality of the "there is no neutral" standpoint. I believe there is a deeper and more nuanced sentiment there, and hopefully a real lesson for society moving forward, granted the danger of regressing to a quasi post modern power play is certainly present as always. The nuance I believe that is being hinted at is not that "no one can be perfectly objective therefore there is no objectivity" but instead that objectivity and rationality itself is not a self evident value and, as a norm, must be instituted and enforced. The pitfall of rationalism has been that it assumed human beings were basically rational, so all you needed to do to have a rational society is to totally empower the individual to make rational choices, the benefit of which is self evident. I think most people can now agree, human beings are inherently irrational, emotional and tribal. Under the enlightenment rationalist worldview, you should be able to rid the universities and corporations of woke and then be neutral then people would behave rationally for mutual benefit. But I believe what would happen is a new woke-esque movement would start in 20 years and we'd do the whole thing over again. We need to assert rationality and objectivity as axioms, and strictly adhere to that, you can not be "neutral" with regards to objectivity or it will fail. It is not in the nature of man and therefore must be inculcated for a better world. This is the "anti neutrality" I subscribe to, though the point about the danger of it being reduced to a "deepity" is very well taken.
The lesson is practical. Lindsey himself pointed to it when he explained how the govt can impact companies by choosing which policies are enforced. He just doesn't understand the non left.
The term for "tyranny through convenience" is called "nudging." The book "nudge" was first published in 2008. Final edition came out in 2021. I don't even think the authors intended tyranny with it, but well... it's now the playbook.
James mentioned about here in the UK being pretty much cashless, that is through the power of inconvenience. Banks gradually shut more and more branches, making physical banking incredibly inconvenient, it could take you half a day to drive to a bank, wait to see someone and then do your banking. So as a business it’s risky to keep large amounts of cash around until you can go to the bank to deposit it, and many banks now don’t deal with cash because they say we’ve chosen to go online to do our banking, not that they slowly nudged and pushed us towards the most convenient option for the banks.
@@drewrathbone7857 nudge units like the one in the uk are often cited as fairly benine entity's, thst their work is on a small scale, like using small hints to make ppl pick up more dog 5hit, or to make more ppl use a bus, or other things like pushing ppl to chase growth targets. But that's the public face of nudging. Think more what the DWP (department for work and pensions) or the MOD (ministry of defence) xan fet away with..
Man this was a really good episode. Rollergator's takes are so clear and concise, I always enjoy some James Lindsay, and Benjamin knows how to ask the good questions.
What kind of dystopian shit (pardon my Russian) is being discussed at 32:00? A digital ID to go onto the internet? Sure that's what UK, CA and AU are salivating for, but why are these people discussing it as a good idea? What's going to happen to whistleblowers, political actors, journalists, etc etc etc. There are many reasons why you might want to be anonymous online - perhaps if your country jails you for saying something. Hmmm?
Your guys discussion really highlights that we have lost a great deal of ground in the conceptual fight for our culture. The forces that are zealously aligned for Freieri have been at it for over 30 years. We have to find ways to promulgate alternative concepts at the reproducible level, within pedagogy, and we have to bridge that 30-year Gap. I am proposing a series of short comic books, similar to the classic "chick books" Fundamentalist Christian series from the 1960's and 70's. Except not religious, with an emphasis on teaching classicly liberal and Enlightenment era concepts, such as critical thinking and objective reasoning. I'll be getting on this project very soon. We can reach these kids and we can inoculate them against these dangerous Marxist ideas that are so seductive/coersive. Moreover, through the same comics, we can reach their parents. And once we have reached their parents, these parents will exert their influence to remove the corrosive and constant malign influence of tick tock and other influencers from the minds of their children, probably by taking away their smart phones, taking them out of public and charter schools and moving them out of cities into more wholesome environments. Blacks are leading the way on all of these fronts! It's really something and we should be proud of them for their courageous stand as real Americans, with good, solid values. Values (or culture, if you prefer) is the final battle ground. If communists win, their twisted and evil values will prevail.
Interesting: James and Konstantin talked after the Oxford event. Konstantin has stated in the recent past that he was less than impressed with James' Twitter behavior. If they touched on that topic, and they might well have, I wonder what the result was.
It's called interdiction based on drug smuggling. Large amounts of cash are fair game to gov't as a way to take your money and make it nearly impossible to recover without spending years and cash to only get back a fraction of your cash
At 2:38 min. in , James says the proper and just idea(s) ... Benjamin , you have allowed the two Doctors to give us listeners a lot of food for thought , I thank you ...
Why "liberals" and "conservatives" come to different conclusions when faced with the same evidence. I read an article by a psychologist who was involved in creating a study. They had expected to show that "conservatives " were and "liberals were not "fearful" of the state of the world. They found there was no difference on that metric. Turns out the biggest psychological difference is their perception of "hierarchy". Conservatives view hierarchy as part of the order of things and liberals see it as evidence of injustice. It's the best explanation I've found for what I see.
It's widely considered Hate Speech to say that about George Floyd. They literally want that conversation to literally be a literal criminal act, that could be prosecuted in court. I was hanging out online with some Black folks who are on my Patreon. They read the autopsy report. They noted the high level of fentanyl. They played a previous arrest of George Floyd a few years earlier, where he played the same panicked character (with no reason for panic) so he could distract the cops long enough to swallow the drugs. That earlier time, it didn't kill him. Next, I found a long article that described how and why they believed the initial autopsy report was preliminary and was thoroughly discredited but was useful to WHITE SUPREMACISTS. If you were expecting a science-based discussion and rebuttal, as I expected, you would be as disappointed and amused as I was. The report was nothing less than an emotion drenched rant of anger. It was a written text, so muted, but it was embodied in that meme-photo of that leftist woman with the open mouth scream of rage that Trump won the 2016 election.
Well, not to be too patronizing, but my joyful pleasure for 2022 has been sitting back in Calmversations and listening to you guys, n gals, express. In that, I, of the fading generation, take solid solace in the realization that the future is in good hands. Peace, out...
At about the 1:21:00 mark where Gator is talking about the quantity of events argument the D's used, it reminded me that, that was the exact argument my eldest sister used when I brought up the de-banking of conservatives the other day.
I tried to remind her of something she had taught me when I was young, "An injustice to one, is an injustice to all", I don't think it had any effect on her though.
I got served an advert for KPMG's ESG accounting on this video. "ESG is now" is their tagline. Of course, the spokesman is a black man with a somewhat British accent because the UK is at least... 5% black? And many of those black people being recent imports who do not have a British accent, as I can attest as an inhabitant of Central Economic Zone 2 of Airstrip One.
@@johnkrstyen7351 No, I don’t mean a Tim Pool. I don’t watch him so I don’t know his style. Joe Rogan is guilty of banging about stoner nonsense all the time and filling up the three hours by not listening to his guest.
I absolutely agree with Lindsay’s read on Jon Stewart. I’ve said for years I think he’s largely responsible for much of the degradation in our public discourse, since he taught liberals to simply
mock anything they disagreed with. Great for entertainment, horrible for society.
Yeah, he made people think that saying things with a mocking tone is a legit form of rebuttal.
It's an amazing irony that he went on Crossfire deploring them as ruining discourse, when in fact Stewart was by far waaaay more harmful to American discourse.
It's equivalent to snapping three times dramatically, scoffing, and walking off. Pure theatricality to play against our fear of ostracism.
In defense of JS, some ideas are best ridiculed by ridicule. It might sometimes be a bit unintellectual, but at the same time it's often enough the only really _persuasive_ method. Let's keep that tool handy for when it's needed, which is often enough. Not that I'm saying there's no problem with JS, there definitely is a problem. Just don't underestimate the usefulness of ridicule as a method.
@@adamnoble1689 that show was trash
I don’t think this doctor guy is a real alligator. His head looks photoshopped and his mouth doesn’t move when he talks. Come to think of it, I doubt he’s actually on roller skates either. Notice how they never actually show his feet? But he really does destroy James Lindsay !
Yeah, I’m starting to get this creeping suspicion that he’s not really who he says he is…I’m not quite sure what it is though, yet.
Plus he talks. That’s what tipped me off
They don't show his feet for reasons of public decency.
Come on guys. He identifies as one.
@@justinsane1119 are you suggesting that one can’t identify as we choose? I can identify as a woman if I want.
It’s my right as a man
FYI I was totally clickbaited into spending three hours listening to you gentlemen. well done.
This js the comment I started looking for at 45 minutes.
Me, too. 😂😂
"In the purple trunks with white stripe... we have James"The Destroyer of WOKE worlds"Lindsay". He's back on Twitter and ready to fight
"In the white trunks with purple stripe... we have Dr."The Destroyer of Illogic"RollerGator" The gloves are off and the Gator head is on tight
We want a clean match, gentlemen. There will be no preferred pronouns or denying trans right to exist
The referee for today's match.... Benjamin"The CALMversationalist"Boyce and the Boyce of Reason podcast.... "Let's get ready to GRUMMMMMMMMMMMBBBBBBBBLLLLLLLLLLLLE" 🐈⬛
Good one!
Good show!
Nicely done 😁
Sam Harris interviewed Bankman-Fried one-on-one and "couldn't detect any deception." lol why does that not surprise me in the least? Not that Sam has the skills or expertise to sniff out financial fraud or determine when a total stranger is lying.... but it's just on-brand somehow. This is the guy who said, and I quote, "smart people on Twitter are curating my information diet."
Well it speaks to the point made about substituting social signaling for discernment. The most interesting thing about SBF is perhaps how keenly he knew exactly what to signal to elicit trust, confidence, etc.
they are both Jews
@@disturbedfan545 So what? Sam Harris is a pompous ass. I don't care what ethnic group he belongs to
@@Confucius_76 because there's a set of behaviors Jewish people tend to follow and one of those is covering up the crimes of their own people.
@@disturbedfan545 lol ok. Antisemitism is for bitter losers. Watch Gavin McInnes's Kayne interview. He makes good points about not judging people by race
BRAVO on the clickbait title AND thumbnail. Masterful!
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are you suprised considering the two guests?
@@JohnDoe-nq5pk Actually I was hoping for a dramatic death scene with Sean Bean, but oh well...
I'm sure James endorsed it. Seems like his sense of humor.
“Weird Al blocked me” is the funniest stand-alone line I’ve heard all week.
I was at Lindsay's Iowa State lecture - thanks again for coming!
Do you know if it was recorded and where I could find it?
I am also curious if there's a recording of it.
@@RegularCupOfJoe it's recorded - if you look up iowa state university lecture series it's in the recordings tab. You have to log in to see it - either through the school or some other website I'm unfamiliar with.
2:31:30 This is the weak point in every classic Liberal's argument...that you can eliminate the power struggle by being rational enough. You can never, because humans are human. There absolutely must be a standard of power and society, and those societies must be small, local, and governable. And most likely Christian.
Some nuance: an ed prof in my (English) university warned me to take a critical view of Freire in my thesis, because he's Marxist. Not all English speaking universities are captured in the way described. Being critical is an important aspect of scholarship.
One piece of data doesn't mean anything. Trends mean something. It's pretty clear that universities are becoming increasingly woke
We no longer stand on the shoulders of giants, we piss on them.
So very well framed.
Not ALL feminists said that the differences between men and women were a social construct.
As a Brazilian, I apologize for Freire's existence. I haven't read Lindsay's book yet but it's probably very good, I'll probably translate it to portuguese, does someone knows how to contact James?
He has a website and channel on UA-cam called New Discourses.
Thanks!
I do can u email mr
I’m a researcher as well and am read up on Friere. I’m in full agreement with Lindsay’s assessment.
@@KMScattergood communists are not proponents of dialogue. Either you agree with them sexualizing children or you're a "fascist". You only "propose dialogue" in one direction. That direction is child abuse and brain washing
Well done, gentlemen. This was your best yet. James Lindsay was utterly annihilated. Long live James Lindsay!
Senor , how true as this was a helpful listen ...
Yeah, you can tell James Lindsay was squirming in embarrassment from the BLATANT FACTS that James Lindsay snuck into James Lindsay's mind.
Edit: I used Utterly, which is redundant use of the word as OP said Utterly himself. I hope James brought some ointment for the BURN that he gave James.
sarcasm? I will need to watch this. This title sounds click bait. No way you can "destroy" James Lindsay.
Interesting about James's explanation of idea laundering, and circular citations. I first heard of an "academic" doing that when the Ward Churchill controversy happened. He'd ghost-write an article, and then he'd cite that to support one of his own papers. I think he did that more than once. Another thing he did, which really chapped some academics' hides, was he would cite someone else's work, and completely mischaracterize what they said. He'd just make shit up about their research, but he'd cite them as his source for it. He did this for years. These academics would get wind that he did this, and complain, but CU Boulder just ignored them, until his "little Eichmann's" paper blew up in their faces, and they couldn't ignore this stuff anymore.
It seemed like what ultimately did him in, just from some conversations I had with people who worked at CU, was he was found to have plagiarized other people's work, as well. That was the ultimate sin that they just couldn't tolerate. Though, now, I doubt they'd get rid of anyone for doing that.
That explanation of people that spend their lives using social signals as a marker for authenticity so that's why they view people that don't care to do it and just be authentic genuinely was just about the best thing I've ever heard.
Suddenly so many things make so much sense.
Can you do me a favor and punctuate that? I can't follow without punctuation.
@@markstuber4731 use your imagination.
@@metroidman3893 lol
@@markstuber4731 It needs syntax first.
@@markstuber4731 I gotchu bro:
That explanation of: "people that spend their lives using social signals as a marker for authenticity, so that's why they view people that don't care to do it and just be authentic, genuinely" was just about the best thing I've ever heard.
Suddenly so many things make so much sense.
*disclaimer: read at your own risk. Preservation of metroidman3893's original intended meaning is not guaranteed.
41:01 I kept a T9 phone all the way up until 2018. No one was/is required to own or use a smartphone, right? But by 2018, I was essentially forced to buy a smartphone b/c the job I started, all the managers communicated by an app, pictures would not send, I would not be included in group texts, etc. You won't have to be mandated to buy into a product if literally not using it will prevent you from participating in normal society.
Where is this normal society you speak of?
phone free since 2005
I rate this pod, 4 stars. Well played gentlemen. Your ideas are compelling!!
You three in a conversation is a highlight of my month, Benjamin. I do not often listen to you as much as I did prior (2018-2020), but I enjoy you three in combo. immensely. Thanks for the effort.
I love James. Loyal from the word go. I never even started Twitter. It's not hard to see how extremely, extremely ugly it is with negativity. Positivity, awesome. God bless ya. Love ya. Spread positive shit for centuries and miles to come. Negativity, nope. Fuck that
It's just like UA-cam's comment section sans-videos.
You make a good point. Fair enough. I am guilty of that. For real. Honestly I wish comments never existed. I wouldn't miss it. It's like a product you didn't know you wanted and then it comes out and your like I love this.
I made the mistake of eating far too much freeze dried garlic. I can't stop farting. Thank you for giving me a couple hours of entertainment while I sit in the living room at 3am to spare my wife and dog the horrid stench of massive amounts of fiber gas and sulfer compounds blasting from my ass. Also good job thinking a bunch
You have “time” spelled incorrectly
time is on their snide
Think well seasoned thoughts my friends
@@angelozachos8777 Hard to type one one handed.
I think that James being on the pro woke side of a debate is, in fact, evidence that God exists
Elon Musk too. It seems like God aligned the stars with Elon Twitter and James
I no longer want to see him debate agains Ibram X but debate with him on stage. Would be epic trolling.
@@johnkrstyen7351 I guarantee Lindsay debating for woke will never happen again. And the debate will be written off by the woke.
@@sillygoose4472 Karl Marx was a right wing White man.
I will watch that.
That is _one_ of the views on the Woke Left, that all the old Marxists were old White European men, so the only Marxists worth your time are Black lesbians or Black trans or even better, Black non-binary.
Meme magic
James is indestructible. Also he's a G
The real top G
What's a G?
@@CapraDaAlbaRegia Gangster, compliment in the hiphop sense gangsta. Example; Snoop Dogg is a G.
@@sillygoose4472 first time I am seeing someone on the internet react nicely and explain something when asked by someone else to explain something lol
@@sillygoose4472 Oh, so does OG mean “Original Gangster”?
I understand what you mean James about truth being subjective/objective. However, the issue that I have with the modern world in general (from both sides) is that everything is taken so literally due to the materialism of the Enlightenment era. Everything is about the material plane. We have to get back to a balance of understanding that symbolism and spiritual/metaphysical meaning matters in our lives. My hope is that in this post-Enlightenment era we will pursue the symbolic/spiritual again and also integrate the knowledge and rigorous study of the material world that we gained from the Enlightenment.
We have lost our way as humans. The end result of such a focus on materialism from the Enlightenment is why we are constantly in a battle between communism and capitalism. We as a society need to put an emphasis for the things that are NOT material so that we will finally potentially rid ourselves of this ongoing battle between the two warring brothers of materialism. All the arguments for capitalism/communism come from materialism. We might finally be able to get beyond this if we can value more than what we can tangibly see.
There's nothing inherently materialistic about free market capitalism. The opposite is true. The core concept of free market capitalism is that people should engage with each other based on voluntaristic relationship. Whether that relationship is materialistic or spiritual is completely up to the participants of that relationship. That everything needs to be just based on material profit is marxist caricature of capitalism. Capitalism is a framework, it has nothing to say what you fill it with.
@@misarthim6538 The very name of capitalism was ascribed to it by communist. That's why I think it gets conflated so much with the characture that they created of it. It's the way humans have always traded goods and services. The system became more complicated over time as it got bigger, but it's still basically the same principles. You provide me something and say what you believe it's value is, and I decide if it's worth what you're claiming.
You're talking about economic systems that determine the economic situation for millions of people. That has nothing to do with religion, spirituality, or anything you're trying to force into it. You're attempting to insert God into what belongs to Cesar. The Enlightenment was good for religion because it helped us stop burning people and torturing them for things beyond their control. Whether you want to say that loss of control is due to demons or drugs, it's still beyond their control and beating them or killing them doesn't help them. It helped us to better understand the words that were given so that we no longer required others interpreting it. Science and religion don't conflict with each other. Understanding what forces caused the sea to split doesn't change that it was a miracle such a rare phenomenon occurred exactly when it needed to. The miracle is still intact. Knowing science doesn't take away the fact that this creation of the universe and life is so incredibly complex and works so perfectly together that it's nearly impossible to not believe there was intelligent design behind it. Using the gifts God created for us to use isn't what you're attempting to claim it is. He gave us all this and it would be wrong to not use it to further our existence as He instructed us to do.
Coming back now to listen to the 3rd hour. Checked the mail and was happy to receive James and Helen's reader-friendly version of Cynical Theories. Am now listening to what's coming from the Oxford Union. That will be EPIC!!!
Can't wait to watch the Oxford debate!
when will it be?
This was pure gold! Thanks for a great discussion!
i consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this-who will count the votes, and how. - joseph stalin
this quote always flashes in my mind when i see someone discussing 100% digital finance systems. the only extraordinarily important thing is who and how will enter the final digits.
"The path of least resistance leads to crooked rivers and crooked men " Henry David Thoreau
I can't wait for the Oxford debate. What an amazing shitshow! Archive it and meme it INSTANTLY
Lindsey/Gator 2024
Daaaaaamn Benjamin!
Y’all laid down a TON of really really SMART and HELPFUL material here that provides some of the best summations of a handful of topics, which can be used going forward to produce a lot of super necessary clarity.
😎👍👍
I need to see the Oxford union debate. I want to see their faces.
Right. Where is it gonna be released?
Maybe in a week
Along the lines of how to be an effective dissident, I think I'd have to go old school. New Testament old school. What you need are not killer talking points. What you need is to persist questions that the Pharisees can't answer without either agreeing with you or giving away the whole game.
There's nothing you can phrase so perfectly that it will change minds that don't want to be changed, or so perfectly that the establishment cannot misconstrue it, hire false witnesses, etc. The establishment controls the ideological, cultural, and political space.
The only game to play is to ask questions that can only be answered in a way that harms the establishment. DON'T provide an answer, because that lets them off the hook for answering. They'll just turn you into a punching bag to distract the people from their non-answer and prevent people from thinking through the question themselves.
Questions and silence are your biggest weapons as a dissident in an inimical establishment. And keep asking and waiting. People don't need answers or information these days. They need to be encouraged to think for themselves.
Liberation theology is not just in the domain of the Roman Catholic Church. My husband went to Princeton Theological Seminary in the 80s and it was taught there as one perspective of theology.
Sam Harris is the perfect example that shows how being rational alone is not good enough, he is a Statist. Humans are great at rationalising their actions and emotions. We also need to value principals, ethics and morality. Most people don't have the interest, intelligence, time, will or fortitude to evaluate their principals or life's philosophy on their own. Most people will simply adopt what everyone around them are practicing. This actually worked reasonably well within the Christian and Judaean framework. Christianity basically invented the idea of Individualism and individual responsibility. In Western society these values needs to be learned or instilled from generation to generation, that is perhaps why some people believe that you cannot be purely neutral. It will take at least a generation to get away from the social programming that has been occurring for decades now. Social justice also has a big phycological component, which James doesn't really acknowledge. There are always people who are not willing or interested in taking responsibility for themselves, this can develop into having elements of psychopathy.
That being said, I really do enjoy all of James' valuable work and analysis. I wish he would analyse people such as Von Mises as well.
To your point about James missing the psychopath angle, he posted a podcast on the New Discourses channel on that very subject. Perhaps he didn't touch on it here.
Watching these three wonderful and very thoughtful intellectual people find a moment where they can simply cut loose and snipe is absolutely hilarious. What a guilty pleasure this particular video is.
I passed on Kanye and his scooby gang on timcast to watch this. I think I chose wisely.
It was a mess.. not surprised.
Yeah, the scooby gang got up and left after like five minutes. Grifters gonna grift.
Great episode, Ben (and the boyce). Much appreciated!
Strip clubs aren't grooming, taking children to strip clubs is grooming.
2:35:06 James' points about merit, liberalism, and capitalism are 👌💯💯🎯
Ignoring that in practice liberalism is subverted almost immediately. His understanding of “authority is merit based” is, regardless of any society’s political formula, the basis of all authority that has ever existed. Even for the medieval monarchists and the divine right of kings, a monarch loses the Mandate of Heaven when he governs poorly. A dictator loses the right to govern if he does so poorly and is often removed.
What really varies from formula to formula is the ease by which someone who governs without merit can be removed. It is ostensibly easy in a democratic republic but with the inevitable advent of parties it’s practically very difficult, as each representative is merely one head of a many-headed hydra that is the party. Cut off one only for another to grow back. I might remove one democratic rep from my state, let’s say, but my rep never really represented my interests or even had a singular voice of their own. They were simply an additional bean for Nancy Pelosi (or whatever cabal dictates the Democrat agenda) to count on her side. Washington warned us about parties yes, but they are inevitable. You cannot stop factionalism from strangling a liberal democracy.
No reactionary objects to the idea that ultimately a ruler must be accountable to those he rules over. Reactionaries disagree with all the other crap built onto that idea.
To say “you can’t be arrogant and wrong at the same time “ is both WRONG and ARROGANT!
Isaac Gottesman, author of The Critical Turn in Education, is alive and lecturing at Connecticut College.
As a doctor I laughed at 2:00. “It’s lupus.” “It’s never lupus.”
House!
Thoroughly luxurious indeed. Thanks guys.
28:53 Reminds me of the story of some guy who paid for his taxes with physical pennies (partly as a protest over taxes). Just slapped a big box of them down on the counter. They called the bomb squad out, lol.
“Benjamin puts poop in his coffee”
I knew it!
Interior crocodile alligator. I drive a Chevrolet movie theater.
I find the "drag queens are the same as Hooters girls" argument fascinating in how detached from reality it is.
First of all, no one is saying a parent cannot take their child to a drag show. Just as they are free to take them to a Hooters.
There are people arguing that it is not prudent and probably immoral. And that is fine, we all have the right to our own individual beliefs.
Second, a parent allowing their child to go to an establishment that showcases binary sexes is not provocative.
Third, if Hooters girls are the same as drag queens, when is the Hooters story hour starting? Are schools going to promote activities with very young students involving Hooters girls in the same manner they are with drag queens? If so, why? If not, why?
Why promote one over the other if they are the same?
Drag Pedagogy is a very serious (and fun!! yay!!) academic paper on capturing the imagination of young children with campy performances. If the kids notice that they're being instructed by pervs, that becomes part of the show.
One of the stated points is for young children to identify with and welcome Drag strangers on the street.
I don't think Hooters pedagogy exists as an academic theory of education, but I'll be sure to look that up next.
Harry , good point ...
@@gg_rider You said, "Dr@g P3d@gogy is a very serious (and fun!! yay!!) academic paper on capturing the imagination of y0ung ch!Idren with campy performances. If the kids notice that they're being instructed by p3rvs, that becomes part of the show.
One of the stated points is for y0ung ch!Idren to identify with and welcome Dr@g strangers on the street.
I don't think Hooters p3d@gogy exists as an academic theory of education, but I'll be sure to look that up next."(I edited it in hopes of dodging whatever got it shadowbanned).
Can you elaborate a bit more? I am not sure I am following.
The problem with them taking a child to a drag show is that it's in a place it's illegal for someone of that age to be, a bar or night club. They have a 18+ requirement because of the things that occur there just like a strip club has a legal age limit. Hooters is not regulated like that because those things don't occur there. If they want to expose their child to that, they are perfectly welcome to within their own home. The rest of your comment is fine.
At long last, James Lindsay is DESTROYED.
🤣🤣🤣 this was pure gold. 🤣🤣🤣 well done james, well done👏👏 whoops, sorry I forgot clapping is offensive 🤏🤌
Wait, is clapping offensive now too? Is it a sign of patriarchy and an imposition of unwelcome and unexpected noise to scare the sensitive souls among us? What memo dud I miss? :D
Lol, it almost worked! I had to check the comments first to make sure it wasn't bait.
Cynical Theories is a great read, but as a teacher, I had to listen in bits to not be over-triggered before going back into my classroom. I'm still working on it
It's not so bad in my school for now, anyway
the "it's your choice" monologue goes for money, just regular money
Is this CT in a nutshell? Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach, deconstruct.
Love it.
Destroy? No no no. Deconstruct.
He picked him up with one arm and with the other just repeatedly slammed a book of facts into his nose! More than destroyed! He was rendered unemployable!
So when do you think the Mark of the Beast is coming? Not able to buy and sell without it? Hard to imagine 2000 years ago, but easy to envision today.
I thought it was the pointy thing. But I suppose it could be the digital currency they're trying to implement in the near future, too.
@@amyb.6368 Here is what Revelation 13:16-18 says: 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
So it is something that controls us financially. My guess is an implant that allows you to access your financial records. It will be sold as security, access and tax accountability.
"That's a very Benjamin kind of moment." Lol
I sure hope science wins.
@mustang607 ... Science can ONLY win, if Dr. Fauci himself approves of this content. Since that not likely and he IS "The Science" ... only feelings can win 😿
'me too' (I couldn't resist stealing the 'woke' reference, and using it for the 'good' for which it was intended. Before it's corruption by the 'left'. Te he he ... )
@@carolynbrightfield8911 ... Would this be the Carolyn of Aussie? 🦘or do I have you confused with another wonderful chatter from across the pond? 🐈⬛purr... meow... head bonk
@@NinjaKittyBonks yes, Carolyn of Aussie
@@carolynbrightfield8911 ❤
Great, vital, wide-ranging discussion. Hope you have a Rollergator-Lindsay team-up again.
Why does Rollergator's head never get cold? Because he always has CAPS on.
NO WAY! Hahahaha, is that original?
@@paigemccormick6519 of course :)
CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
Enjoyable & informative conversation. Commenting to boost the algorithm
I would love if James could made list of books, that he read on the themes he tackles.
I wish all streams were this good...
(thoughts while peeing)
The amateur psychologist inside me feels James is like a soldier who's found his groove on the battle field. Maybe getting a little crazy.
"IDEA LAUNDERING, IT JUST WORKS"
-Dr President RollerGator
Be careful of the Lizard people James, they are carnivores.
29 mins in; yeah convenience, I always heard in China 'it's so convenient' and got blank expressions when I explained why convenience might sometimes become a real inconvenience..
I follow around James to other channels like a groupie and the best conversations are always these epic ones on Benjamin’s channel.
"Civil asset forfeiture " is the term they're looking for.
I know the title is click bate, but I like this grouping, and James is easier for to listen to when he's in conversation and has to stop and explain his research and thinking instead of just monologing about the rabbit hole he's gotten stuck in. Think James does good work, but he does go off without others to bounce his ideas off
This conversation has been the most fun I've had in a while. Definitely luxurios...
1992-93 as the beginning of this movement sounds right. That was the only year I spent at Illinois State University, generally regarded as a teacher college. The School Crest bore a Chaucer Quote: "and gladely wold he learne, and gladely teche" not sure if I got the Middle-English spelling accurately, but as a direct quote from The Canterbury Tales, profound.
You can guess the objection was to the gendered pronoun, and now it is "gladly we learn and teach" pretty bland.
(Of note- Author David Foster Wallace taught in the English Dept. during that time)
This video had me taking two naps to process.
Re: the banality of the "there is no neutral" standpoint. I believe there is a deeper and more nuanced sentiment there, and hopefully a real lesson for society moving forward, granted the danger of regressing to a quasi post modern power play is certainly present as always. The nuance I believe that is being hinted at is not that "no one can be perfectly objective therefore there is no objectivity" but instead that objectivity and rationality itself is not a self evident value and, as a norm, must be instituted and enforced. The pitfall of rationalism has been that it assumed human beings were basically rational, so all you needed to do to have a rational society is to totally empower the individual to make rational choices, the benefit of which is self evident. I think most people can now agree, human beings are inherently irrational, emotional and tribal. Under the enlightenment rationalist worldview, you should be able to rid the universities and corporations of woke and then be neutral then people would behave rationally for mutual benefit. But I believe what would happen is a new woke-esque movement would start in 20 years and we'd do the whole thing over again. We need to assert rationality and objectivity as axioms, and strictly adhere to that, you can not be "neutral" with regards to objectivity or it will fail. It is not in the nature of man and therefore must be inculcated for a better world. This is the "anti neutrality" I subscribe to, though the point about the danger of it being reduced to a "deepity" is very well taken.
The lesson is practical. Lindsey himself pointed to it when he explained how the govt can impact companies by choosing which policies are enforced. He just doesn't understand the non left.
@@frankblazkiewicz2636 precisely
The term for "tyranny through convenience" is called "nudging." The book "nudge" was first published in 2008. Final edition came out in 2021. I don't even think the authors intended tyranny with it, but well... it's now the playbook.
James mentioned about here in the UK being pretty much cashless, that is through the power of inconvenience. Banks gradually shut more and more branches, making physical banking incredibly inconvenient, it could take you half a day to drive to a bank, wait to see someone and then do your banking. So as a business it’s risky to keep large amounts of cash around until you can go to the bank to deposit it, and many banks now don’t deal with cash because they say we’ve chosen to go online to do our banking, not that they slowly nudged and pushed us towards the most convenient option for the banks.
@@drewrathbone7857 nudge units like the one in the uk are often cited as fairly benine entity's, thst their work is on a small scale, like using small hints to make ppl pick up more dog 5hit, or to make more ppl use a bus, or other things like pushing ppl to chase growth targets.
But that's the public face of nudging. Think more what the DWP (department for work and pensions) or the MOD (ministry of defence) xan fet away with..
We need a counterculture of anti-convenience and skepticism that defies and breaks the quaint charge of "luditeism".
Man this was a really good episode. Rollergator's takes are so clear and concise, I always enjoy some James Lindsay, and Benjamin knows how to ask the good questions.
What kind of dystopian shit (pardon my Russian) is being discussed at 32:00?
A digital ID to go onto the internet? Sure that's what UK, CA and AU are salivating for, but why are these people discussing it as a good idea?
What's going to happen to whistleblowers, political actors, journalists, etc etc etc. There are many reasons why you might want to be anonymous online - perhaps if your country jails you for saying something. Hmmm?
I have zero friends so I can be honest with no repercussions
Your guys discussion really highlights that we have lost a great deal of ground in the conceptual fight for our culture. The forces that are zealously aligned for Freieri have been at it for over 30 years.
We have to find ways to promulgate alternative concepts at the reproducible level, within pedagogy, and we have to bridge that 30-year Gap.
I am proposing a series of short comic books, similar to the classic "chick books" Fundamentalist Christian series from the 1960's and 70's. Except not religious, with an emphasis on teaching classicly liberal and Enlightenment era concepts, such as critical thinking and objective reasoning.
I'll be getting on this project very soon. We can reach these kids and we can inoculate them against these dangerous Marxist ideas that are so seductive/coersive.
Moreover, through the same comics, we can reach their parents. And once we have reached their parents, these parents will exert their influence to remove the corrosive and constant malign influence of tick tock and other influencers from the minds of their children, probably by taking away their smart phones, taking them out of public and charter schools and moving them out of cities into more wholesome environments. Blacks are leading the way on all of these fronts! It's really something and we should be proud of them for their courageous stand as real Americans, with good, solid values. Values (or culture, if you prefer) is the final battle ground.
If communists win, their twisted and evil values will prevail.
Interesting: James and Konstantin talked after the Oxford event. Konstantin has stated in the recent past that he was less than impressed with James' Twitter behavior. If they touched on that topic, and they might well have, I wonder what the result was.
If I remember correctly, Konstantin was angry over James' 'ignorant' opinion regarding the war in Ukraine. And so Konstantin blocked him on Twitter.
@@violagreenwood2324 kk is a bit of a tool trying to hard to be centrist
We need "Grievance Studies: The Musical!"
It's called interdiction based on drug smuggling. Large amounts of cash are fair game to gov't as a way to take your money and make it nearly impossible to recover without spending years and cash to only get back a fraction of your cash
Crazy to allow this country to go cashless!
35:10 The V-chip has been required in all TVs sold in the US since 2000, but it's not widely used.
At 2:38 min. in , James says the proper and just idea(s) ... Benjamin , you have allowed the two Doctors to give us listeners a lot of food for thought , I thank you ...
I need this video of James arguing pro woke at Oxford in my life. This sounds amazing. You should link in this video when it comes out.
Why "liberals" and "conservatives" come to different conclusions when faced with the same evidence. I read an article by a psychologist who was involved in creating a study. They had expected to show that "conservatives " were and "liberals were not "fearful" of the state of the world. They found there was no difference on that metric. Turns out the biggest psychological difference is their perception of "hierarchy". Conservatives view hierarchy as part of the order of things and liberals see it as evidence of injustice. It's the best explanation I've found for what I see.
Is Dr. Rollergator related to King Crockoduck?
Is Johnny 5 related to wall-e?
No
I'm a winstanly guy.. always will be.
"Freedom is the person who would turn the world upside down"
You can take that how you like. 'I dont care'.
YES! Derek Chauvin did not kill George Floyd!
It's widely considered Hate Speech to say that about George Floyd. They literally want that conversation to literally be a literal criminal act, that could be prosecuted in court.
I was hanging out online with some Black folks who are on my Patreon. They read the autopsy report. They noted the high level of fentanyl.
They played a previous arrest of George Floyd a few years earlier, where he played the same panicked character (with no reason for panic) so he could distract the cops long enough to swallow the drugs. That earlier time, it didn't kill him.
Next, I found a long article that described how and why they believed the initial autopsy report was preliminary and was thoroughly discredited but was useful to WHITE SUPREMACISTS.
If you were expecting a science-based discussion and rebuttal, as I expected, you would be as disappointed and amused as I was.
The report was nothing less than an emotion drenched rant of anger. It was a written text, so muted, but it was embodied in that meme-photo of that leftist woman with the open mouth scream of rage that Trump won the 2016 election.
Quite the respite..thank you all.
That isn't gator, gator has no inside voice
"Grievance Boner"...lol
Well, not to be too patronizing, but my joyful pleasure for 2022 has been sitting back in Calmversations and listening to you guys, n gals, express. In that, I, of the fading generation, take solid solace in the realization that the future is in good hands.
Peace, out...
At about the 1:21:00 mark where Gator is talking about the quantity of events argument the D's used, it reminded me that, that was the exact argument my eldest sister used when I brought up the de-banking of conservatives the other day.
I tried to remind her of something she had taught me when I was young, "An injustice to one, is an injustice to all", I don't think it had any effect on her though.
The "hooters" bit was epic dad level. 10/10
I got served an advert for KPMG's ESG accounting on this video. "ESG is now" is their tagline.
Of course, the spokesman is a black man with a somewhat British accent because the UK is at least... 5% black? And many of those black people being recent imports who do not have a British accent, as I can attest as an inhabitant of Central Economic Zone 2 of Airstrip One.
Lindsey and rollergator killing it once more. And Benjamin killing it by NOT pulling a Joe Rogan and blathering on endlessly.
You mean a Tim Pool
@@johnkrstyen7351 No, I don’t mean a Tim Pool. I don’t watch him so I don’t know his style. Joe Rogan is guilty of banging about stoner nonsense all the time and filling up the three hours by not listening to his guest.
@@Ajax-wo3gt Tim just does not let guest talk. Joe at least lets guest talk.
@@johnkrstyen7351 Okay, I wouldn’t know. I’ll take your word for it. Tim just seems like a bit of a wanker to me and I’ve avoided his content.
Ben would never do that. It wouldn’t make for good calmversation.
Soo good! Best interview yet
Love the gator/Marxist color scheme. I didn’t know he’s also a graphic artist.