Edit: You can also connect one of your monitors to your iGPU/motherboard! If it doesn't work you can try this video I made as well! ua-cam.com/video/xhWfShsy_Bk/v-deo.html
This is not just a rx 7000 issue, this issue exists for every amd user using two monitors. The thing is u know this but yet you make this a more positive video. im stilll having to run my monitors that are native 1440p 165 hz Gigabyte M32Q + 1080p 144hz AOC 24g2 @ 120hz & 60hz respectively . It's not good enough to just surrender to that, which is what your suggesting. More needs to be said about this .
I just disabled HDR on my 1440p ultrawide screen and power draw decreased from 45W to around 10W. Mindblown. And disappointed that I can't use HDR without major energy consumption... Thank you for the video!
@@sirbughunter my friend when ever you enable hdr you will get more consumption. Your monitor should come with tdp or power usage one without hdr one with hdr. For example my m32Q 1440p monitor pulls and extra 38-40watts when enabling HDR
It seems to me with a frame limiter and freesync premium you achieve similar results to this method but it would be more dependent on monitor model with my alternative.
You are legit a wizard, I have a 5700xt that had the high idle power draw for ages, so I always used 100hz instead of 144hz, to go from 40-45W to 12-13W, with this, 143Hz and 13W, god damn lol I had this problem for ages now. Thank you so much, I knew this channel was good but not wizard good xD
Disappointing they are still having issues like this. I wonder if they ever fixed it on the RX400/500 series cards? After exiting a game, my RX480 8GB would idle at 40-ish watts at the desktop. It was in the known issues forever until I got a 6700XT. The fix for that was to force close (via Task Manager) one of those AMD applications. It's been so long I've forgotten which.. And I can't look on my own computer because my motherboard fried. A mosfet or something popped and there's some kind of liquid running down the back of my Asus ROG B450-F Gaming II. Had a 5900x in there since last June(?) and all was well. Turned my computer off and it never started back up lol. Ridiculous. No PBO either. Just Curve Optimizer. I swear I think Windows 11 killed it. I had deleted the hibernation mode file and disabled it, but somehow accidentally put it to sleep instead of shutting it down. Because I went to shut it down, saw that it actually went to "Sleep", so I "woke it" then shut it down. That killed it. Asus ROG B550-F Gaming Wi-Fi II is supposed to be here tomorrow. Almost went MSI.. and maybe I should have. Either way, assuming it didn't fry everything on my computer, I'll email Asus and Newegg about it and see what they have to say.
And if it killed my 5900x and 6700XT.. and my RAM, etc., I'm gonna be furious. Sorry for the totally off topic venting/ rant. I've been lost without my PC lol. I'm addicted to computers.
i just can’t do this for some reason… no matter what i do i can’t change the refresh rate of my 240hz monitor in the custom resolution and it’s constantly telling me to clear the errors
Good to know that this old fix (I had to do it on the RX 470 and GTS 450) is still a known fix. Weird that it happens still. I would manually switch back to normal 75Hz when using PS/drawing, and then back to 73Hz for everything else.
I have 2560x1440 @ 165Hz + 1920x1080 @ 120Hz. Even If I decrease the 1440 to just 60Hz and the 1080 to 30Hz, my 6800 still draws 36W :( Did you do anything other than drop refresh rate 1 Hz lower than max, and select CVT?
Thanks! Setting a custom resolution seems to have fixed my idle power draw issue. It seems to be with the timing standard. Just creating a custom res and changing the timing standard from manual to CVT worked for me. Went from 90 watts at idle to 20 watts. I have a 27" 1080p @ 60hz monitor and 32" 1440p @ 165hz. Thanks again!
I'm really glad I found you AMD Jesus. Reduced the Powerdraw from my 7900XTX from around 60W idle to 6W. Speechless was my first reaction. Thanks to you, I've already learned many things from various of your videos. The AMD software is also really nice to work with. My new build is an R7 7800X3D and RX 7900XTX, runs really well. Despite people always bashing AMD, and me coming from Nvidia and Intel, I'm surprised this works :D Your channel is my new source for any AMD news 👍
The only issue with this fix is that you're forced to use 6bit color depth. For me, having main monitor at 1440p 144hz (freesync on) and then 2nd at 1440p 60hz (freesync off) on 2nd, I get 10w power draw on my XTX. Works for 4k main monitor/1440p with same settings, giving 15w power draw while maintaining 8bit color depth.
@@AncientGameplays Does CRU even work for 7000 series? :o But I'm not having any issues, just explaining what works for me to get really low idle power draw :D
I thought it was a well known fix. For multi-monitor setups, if you play only using 1 of them for gaming, editing etc. You even don't have to bother with custom resolutions. Just go to Windows settings > System > Display > Advanced Display Settings and there change refresh rate for your 2nd, 3rd etc. monitors to 60hz. Your main monitor can be kept without any changes. Voila - Enjoy 10W Idle instead of 150W.
@@Drejkol my other monitor is set at 60hz and the main one at 165hz but the draw is still around 40W. Didnt test out the custom resolution but it might still help reducing it
@@Drejkol Actually just tested out the custom resolution and it totally disables my monitor once i put the custom 163hz so definitely wouldnt be doing that lol
In my case, I have two 1440p@165 Hz monitors and consuming 90 W idle. I had to lower my second monitor to 95 Hz to drop consumption to 48 W. VRAM clock dropped from 2500 MHz to 909 MHz. I'd need to lower it to 60 Hz for 12 W consumption, but I was getting used to smooth web page scrolling, can't go lower than that now. :D
I had a problem, on Linux, that the vram frequency would be very high on 144 Hz, and then I simply selected 120 Hz from the menu and the problem was gone. Very strange. Oh, and it was on an RX 6600 XT, which makes me wonder how could the same ploblem happen on a different OS and a GPU from a different generation.
You're great Fabio, thanks again. Just got an rx 6800 and now im tweaking and optimizing everything thanks to your videos. Even this one worked great as expected :)
I found this fix a while back and applied it. It helps but doesn't completely fix the issue. In my dual monitor setup (1x 144Hz + 1x 60Hz) with 7900XTX, it reduces the power draw from ~115 to ~50 for the loss of a couple of fps. I hope AMD keep working on this. Any ideas to reduce the wattage further?
I'm on a single 120Hz 1440 monitor and an hitting 60w to 100W on a brand new 7800xt just in UA-cam. 30W on desktop idle, this fix didn't help unfortunately. Considering trying to return for a 4070 because this is unacceptable.
For Multi Monitor Setup the same workaround is usefull. Second or more Monitor Setups create for the other Monitors also a Custom Resolution but with 60, 75 or 100hz and also CVT or alternative CVT Reduce Blanking method. The Idle Powerdraw decrease to 12W with 2x or 3x Monitors on 6750XT normal 36W.
I'll definitely keep this in mind for when I build my PC! Appreciate it! By the way, if you're looking to make more benchmarking videos including NFS unbound, I would recommend to mainly check out some of the more intensive scenarios, mainly starting a race inside the city area. When you have all those cars onscreen as well as all the buildings and pedestrians and traffic cars, the FPS takes a hit the hardest there, and the same thing happened with its predecessor, NFS Heat. Just something to consider!
Cara, eu sou brasileiro e você foi o único que me ajudou, aqui no BR tem muito pouco conteúdo sobre AMD, valeu meu amigo 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷 Man, I'm Brazilian and you were the only one who helped me, here in BR there's very little content about AMD, thanks my friend 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
i tried these options, did make a difference from 32-33W to 19-24W. but if i put any of my refresh rates past 60MHz goes to 32W on average. thinking i'll keep my MHz at 144 since it not much at all. great find though man, this will definetely help those with higher idle power draw. keep up the great work.
In the case of my Gigabyte 144hz 4K M28U connected to a 7900xt over DP it says, "The custom resolution setting are not compatible with your display". Changing refresh-rate of my monitor doesn't before hand also doesn't seem to help. I also tried CTV - Reduced Blanking.
5700 xt had this exact issue for so long. I remember finding the cvt reduced blanking fix and it immediately dropped VRAM clocks. Hopefully they resolve it in driver updates.
Holy shit, this actually worked!!!! Been messing with CRU for the the last couple of days without much success. I have an RX6750XT and triples (1080p, 2x60Hz and 1x165Hz). Previously anything above 100Hz would give 38W idle, with 100Hz running at around 10W idle. With this method I was able to make a 150Hz custom resolution, which doesn't max out the Vram clock and runs at 10W. Anything higher just gave me a black screen, but 150Hz is still a lot better than 100Hz
for those who may not find a solution (perhaps because they have a monitor with a low refresh rate) to excessive consumption of their GPU, check if desktop recording is active. I have a 6700 xt and a 75Hz monitor: by disabling desktop recording I decreased idle power consumption from 35-35W to 5-10W. and yes, this is black magic.
Could you create a comparison video between AMD Wattman and MSI Afterburner, highlighting the pros and cons of each? Please compare the features available in both programs and recommend which one you would prefer for AMD graphics cards as well as Nvidia cards. Currently, I am struggling to decide which one to use as both have advantages that I would like to utilize, but using both simultaneously causes conflicts. Additionally, could you create a video demonstrating how to create a modern, aesthetically pleasing OSD design for MSI Afterburner? Many OSDs often look cheap, and I have seen some users create their own designs that look great in benchmarking videos. I know this is a LOT to ask, but I am sure it will be helpful to many people
biggest difference for me is the fan tuning. Adrenalin allows you to set Zero RPM and does not use any cpu cycles, msi afterburner will always run in the background even if you are not using the OSD, consuming like 1-2% cpu , which admittedly most people wont care about ,but I am one of those trying to squeeze every last drop of performance.
I second this specially for the MSI OSD display, as I've been trying to figure out forever how to make mines look like UA-camrs that do benchmarks, mines look cheap and basic as well with no names besides it.
I like doing this, find my oc settings through the amd software, run msi save profile, reinstall the drivers for the minimal and have msi auto apply upon startup. I hate using amd wattman because sometimes even though your oc is stable it would reset randomly >.> OSD I just use HWinfo + rivatuner
On my XTX on my 4K 120Hz screen it's close to 90-100W idle power draw with the memory clock pinned close to 2500MHz! Looking forward to trying out your fix
Any luck? I have LG C2 with 4K 120Hz too but this fix doesn't work for me.. tried 60-120 Hz and did the custom for 118-119 Hz, unfortunately no change.
@@Snodrage I have the same, a 48" C2 and 65" QNED80 and can't even get a custom resolution between 60 Hz and 120 Hz to be created as I get pixel clock error. My VRAM is pegged at 2000 MHz with my 6900XT at any refresh rate at any available refresh rate above 60 Hz. 10-bit color is the standard I am seeing for the QNED, temporarily have the C2 disconnected for installing wall mount.
Wow, thanks man, it really worked on my LG C1! I created a custom 118Hz resolution with CVT enabled and now my idle power draw is down from 100W to 20W, wow. Thanks so much man ❤.
Didn't work for me. Tried 143 and 142. Having primary display (4k monitor) set to 60hz and secondary monitor (1440p) set to 144hz causes the 100w issue. Only way to reduce power draw under 30w was to set the secondary display to 60hz. Feels kinda shitty and i hope they fix it soon.
I managed to fix the problem on my 7900XT dual monitor 1440p 144Hz + 1080p 144Hz setup using Custom Resolution Utility (CRU) by increasing the vertical blanking on both monitors. Both are still running at 144Hz. Color Depth is still on the highest bpc for both monitors (10bpc and 8bpc). All of this was done on Adrenaline Version 23.7.1. These values will be different for every monitor model, brand, refresh rate and resolution so do not copy these numbers. This is just the result of me messing around with the vertical blanking (and nothing else inside CRU) on my specific monitors: LG 27GN800-B, 1440p 144Hz: from 103 (default) to at least 109 and ViewSonic XG2401, 1080p 144Hz: from 77 (default) to at least 82. I tried these values separately while having the other monitor on default, didn't work. It had to be done for both if I want it to work while using both. I first increased both in bigger increments and at some point the memory clock started going down, from there I decreased them by smaller increments until the memory clock went back up again to find the lowest vertical blanking I can set without it going back up because I don't know if increasing it by too much could affect the lifespan of a monitor so I'd rather keep it at minimum. The memory clock now fluctuates between 49 and 112 MHz with about 25W according to the Adrenalin Software. Before all of this it didn't go any lower than 909 MHz. The power consumption goes back up to around 45W while watching videos on a browser with hardware acceleration. After turning the hardware acceleration off I can let the video under which I'm typing this comment play and the Total Board Power stays between 25W and 27W. (I'm using the AMD Performance Overlay to read the total board power because it will fluctuate between 35 and 50 if I check the numbers in the performance tab of the Adrenalin Software.) I don't know if this comment could be helpful to anyone but I thought this might be interesting for some people.
The video in the pinned comment explains how to use this method but I thought that more people might see this in this comment section because this one is more recent
Thanks for sharing this fix, I was searching for fixes a couple weeks ago because I noticed this problem when connecting a secondary 60Hz monitor to my 6750XT. I found nothing on the webs, just people recommending to learn to live with that fact because AMD states it's "normal" behavior for the VRAM to act like that (which is complete BS). My fix was to clock down my main monitor from 120Hz to 60Hz, right now we're in a crazy tropical heatwave and I decided to give up framerates to keep my system a bit cooler.
I have this issue with a 6700xt. On idle if I use 165hz, my idle power draw is about 35W. However if I just change it to 144hz it immediately goes down to about 5 or 6W 💀
Can't believe it actually works!!! Just increase my LG 27GP850-B to 180hz and AOC 24G2 to 120Hz then BAM. The wattage goes down from 100W+ to 40 something. Thx a lot AG!!
I must set my second and third Monitor on 60hz (Normally he has 75) my 1 Monitor has 144hz. When i take the 2 and 3 Monitor on 75hz i get 120w power draw on idle:/
Awesome, thanks for the tip! Switching to the DMT mode instead of CVT worked as it let it actually have the really long blanking which helps the memory calm down (I tried to do this manually in the custom resoilution utility tool first, but I think my display port cable is too poor to just add a ton more blanking on its own)
For me the case of near 70w idle power usage on brand new 7800xt was the Brave browser, so if this is not helping check what apps are running in background too.
Ahhh, I was excited this would work! But when I try to create a 142 Hz custom rez, the G.Pixel Clock shows an error and I can't save it. Interestingly, as soon as I open the Custom Resolutions before changing anything, it also shows an error on G.Pixel Clock rate. Odd. Have an Alienware AW3821DW. (38" 144hz IPS panel (3800 X 1600) from LG.(
My monitor is a 170 Hz acer, I had the same issue. I've just gone into the windows display settings and dropped the Hz from 170 to 165 as that was the next one down. The GPU board power went from around 48w to 50w and is now sitting on 18w to 26w. Vram clock went from 909mhz solid to 32mhz to 56mhz.
New method, turn on “ Adaptive sync compatible “ tested this multiple times and idle power draw goes from 23w to 5w the settings is located at global display settings
This actually worked like a charm, went from 90w to like 10w, running dual monitors 1440/165 and 1080/75. Set custom res as per video to 162hz and all good. Cheers bud.
Helpful. Adding to this, if you play on a tv screen, mine is 4k 120 hz lcd, don't forget to update your firmware and buy good hdmi cables, 2.0, or 2.1 version. this could also triggers consumption and compatibility problems....with the graphic card driver. everything is solved for me, since previous AMD drivers. but some games may have HDR, vsync, or resolution (fullscreen, borderless window,....) problems. Certainly driver issue. but companies can't test every system pairing made by users......... don't forget cables ! and keep on Fabio, 😊
Just create new resolution, go from manual to CVT and do not change anything else. On my 6700 XT I went from 30W to 6W. Works fine :) Thanks for your advice...
Hello Fabio, thank you very much for this video. For me power draw dropped from 90W to 13W by using 142Hz instead of 144Hz. Greetings from Germany Markus
In my case the power draw was high around 100W idle. Only if both monitor is on 60hz then going down to 15-20w, but with the latest driver if 1 monitor is on 144hz then still ok 15-20w.
it worked for me thanks, I had to set different RR for my dual monitors = main 2K UW (142HZ) + 2nd monitor 2K (95Hz), I couldn't set the 2nd at the same 142Hz and had to go down to 95Hz to see a change in the PD It went from 102W - 106W down to 52W - 58W idle
for me it was "instant replay" that was keeping memory at high idle clock, so disabling "record desktop" toggle allows the clocks to sit at around 170mhz browsing web and windows
@@AncientGameplays Unfortunately on the zowie XL2546K I cannot set the refresh a few numbers under, only to 200, but I had to drop it to 144 to get the 7 watt idle, I suppose I'll have to switch it back and forth :p
Thanks for the upload! I had quite some issues with my 5700xt & 6700xt in conjunction with a lenovo 75hz panel. The only thing that worked was CRU and soon as i upgraded to a proper dell panel with 144hz the issues were gone. So in conclusion, some panels are just plain inefficient, requiring more memory hz to keep up with the refresh rate, unless you use amazing tools like CRU and Radeon Settings.
Hello, 3 screen here and 42w idle and maxxed out vram speed at all time, 1x1080p@144hz, 1x 1080p@60hz, 1x2160p@60hz, on a RX6800, couldnt set a custom resolution for my screen, even if i leave it all by default it says my display isnt compatible, if I disable the 2160p screen, its the same, if I only lower the 144hz to 120hz, its the same, but if I lower it to 60hz, i go down to 9w idle... But I dont wanna run 60 hz on my main monitor ^^"
Also I did try this method in your video Fabio but it didn't work. Set up a custom resolution for 164hz instead of 165hz in the AMD software but my monitor then showed a message saying it didn't support that refresh rate when I changed it in the Windows settings and wouldn't display anything til i changed it back to 165hz.
Will have to try this out. Dual monitor (old Dell 60Hz office monitor and new Gigabyte M27Q 170Hz, Freesync on) draws idle power around 40-45W with 6800 XT, VRAM locked at 2138MT/s (as set with overclock). VRAM downclocks properly and power draw drops to 11-12W when refresh rates are set to 60 & 60, 60 & 120, etc from Windows display settings...
Sadly both of my monitors were stating it was incompatible with the custom resolution unless i went down to 100hz on both monitors or 60hz on one. I'll keep using my CPU for my second monitor until AMD fixes this.
Didn't help for me unfortunately, and your previous video didn't help me either :(. However, I found that the problem only occurs when I have more than 1 monitor connected. If I only have my main monitor connected, my VRAM Clock is at normal level and the watts too.. Does anyone have another solution please? :((
@@AncientGameplays my main-monitor is a Medion Erazer Spectator X10 (MD 21505) -QHD -165hz -curved -IPS Panel -27" Absolutely nice monitor. My second monitor is an old Benq with FHD 60hz, and then i got a little Sensor-Panel Display with 1200x800 @60hz behind my Flat-Reservoir, all connected to a 7900XTX. I also found out, that the vram clock and wattage is normal, when only my display and my second-monitor (without my main-monitor) are plugged in. Maybe its too much data with all the displays and monitors, that triggers this problem.
Cool trick, thank you! Once custom resolution failed me: when I connected both a 720p TV and a 1080p monitor onto the same HDMI slot using an HDMI splitter (so that my TV shows the monitor screen at 1080p), my monitor changed resolution down to 720p, and I could not select 1080p in the display settings. Not only deleting custom resolutions is tricky (because you cannot delete active resolutions), but also only factory reset helped me bring the higher resolution back. I don't know why, but at least I keep every display at 60 Hz, so no idle power consumption issues. Then why did I experiment with custom resolutions? I saw that weird 59.9 Hz refresh rate on one of my displays I wanted to get rid of...
Are you sure color bit depth goes down to 6 bit. That is really low. If you have a display that has 6 bit + FRC that is fine because the display takes 8 bit signal and "fakes" it on the 6 bit panel. But if you have a native 8 bit panel sending only 6 bit might actually be visually very noticeable. If not it might just still be 8 bit. With me only 10 bit goes away, and color gets locked to 8 bit. On my RX 580 I have the same problem with my 1080p 165HZ display. I have to manually tune a custom resolution to allow the memory to clock down during idle. I have to increase vertical blanking, but than my display shows an overlay with out of range even though it's displaying properly otherwise. Lowering from 165 to 162Hz fixes it completely.
No you don't actually. You feel the difference only if you can't do the basic steps on your AMD card, that's all. I've tested several AMD and NVIDIA cards and I can easily say that
@@AncientGameplays I'm sure for a good portion that's true. However, I've tried a 6800xt, and after installing any drivers it wouldn't post. Went into safe mode, fresh windows installs, complete DDU. The most extreme of things. And still it just wouldn't post with any driver installed. returned it. Then got a 7900xtx and at first it was ok, it was great performance in allot of the newer games, but then some older ones like assassins creed origins ran terribly. 70fps in the main city. Just odd performance. But then the "new" drivers came out and games would just crash on me. Out of no where I'd get a "Driver timeout" SO then of course I went through the proccess of completely fresh wiping the previous, chipset first, then drivers, and vise versa. No matter what I did the problems persisted. And huge frame spikes. Went back to the previous drivers? and boom ran fine. Each time this happened, I got a Nvidia card after and never, have I ever, needed to do such things. There is a clear quality difference between the two. Even in this video you mention the issues many people with 7900xtx have suffered. I like AMD, and I'm a bit of a fanboy for AMD. I want to see them continue to succeed. But I'm also not into personal incredulity. I can see the quality difference. AMD works well so long as your current build, bios and all things align with the stars and it likes you. I don't want to make excuses for AMD, or any glitches by labeling them basic steps as some kind of acceptable norm. It's not acceptable. Be they simple, complex, or easy. Deff when paying 1000+ Friend from work (I work at microcenter) also had to return his 7900xtx, second monitor only had video artifacts. We hooked it up to our test bench and the results were replicated. But on the 3rd test bench it worked fine. This is absurd. Turning on metrics within AMD caused lag spikes when using it. Replicated even on latest drivers. We tested it, that's right again on 4 test benches ranging from AMD to Intel current, and previous gens. 2 lag spiked, 1 didn't, and 1 did once in a while. If we throw every issue away as "well just don't use it" or "Not a big deal, use Afterburner" It's an endless perpetual excuse for something that is broke. one test bench, when the driver crashed during a certain test, it literally corrupted the entire windows install. We test things heavily at microcenter in our tech department. It looks like a mad scientist lab behind the doors. there is without a doubt, without a single doubt, more issues on AMD then on Nvidia, and overall your performance will be more consistent across a large scale of games, not just the ones tested here, or on other channels known to work well perpetually. At the microcenter I work at in rockville md, we get so many AMD cards back for THESE very issues. I have real data I deal with on the daily. Not just the experience of a sole individual. We actually now give out a disclaimer to those looking to do their first build. that if you Choose AMD an advanced user is recommended. We never get an Nvidia return, or have any issues ever stated aside from literally coming DOA. Again, this is based on actual daily data and statistics. There is a difference in quality, and certainly in ease of use and reliability. This isn't to say not buy AMD. But to ignore the endless list of possible issues is not just ignorant, but dishonest to those watching. We should never allow our EGO, or desire to protect what we love to cloud our judgment. With this said, saying I do not have a smoother experience on Nvidia than I did on AMD is rather silly. I'll let that one slide. Very aggressive, and honestly delusional. I like you, I love your videos. But you're not an engineer, and you don't have the data I have based on thousands and thousands of people that we deal with. No, if someone pays 1000+ it should work, and it should all work. All the time. Aside from a shadow flicker or something in 1 game that requires a patch. Remember, this is real Data, it's not based on 1 individuals data or a following of those who are getting good results. this is based on Unbiased data from random people. your comments are littered with people having issues. having a fix, or something you can do yourself doesn't make it ok. It makes it something that's broke, that YOU'RE needing to fix YOURSELF. And instead of spending that valuable time playing and enjoying your games or content, you're spending it watching videos on how to maybe fix what's broke. It's not ok.
i am trying this, but when I attempt to create one, a red exclamation mark appears near some of the settings and I cannot create a custom resolution, it says I have to clear the errors before I can move on. EDIT: It works if I do it for 142 hertz, but if I do it for 238 (because I have a 240 hz monitor) it does not allow me to make the resolution.
Thank you! Monitor (Msi 1440p 165hz) wouldn't go to 142. Dropped it to 120 and perfecto! Good enough for my old eyes to use! Dropped from 49W idle to 7-11 Watts
Fixed the high idle power usage multi-monitor (2x144Hz 1440p) Managed to fix the high idle power usage by setting the G. Pixel Clock higher to 590000 (144.838) to both monitors. Wanted to share this as soon as possible. This dropped my 110watt usage to 50watts TDP. Contact me if you need help setting this up. Of course I had to share this as soon as possible, because this is the fix that I needed so bad and I know many others also have this problem with multiple monitors. AMD rejoice!
Thank you for your video! I have used your way to set my 1440p ultrawide monitor from 144hz to 142hz, It works!! It is from around 115~120 watts drops to around 20 to 35 watts!! is a good thing that we finally have a way to find out what the problem is. But sadly, I have an dual monitor it is an 1080p 144Hz monitor I tried to set it to 142hz idle power go up to 100 watts again! I have to set it to 60hz to stable the power draw what a waste ! BTW thanks again for your video it helps alot!
High idle power consumption is problem with AM4 and AM5 (desktop) CPU as well. With no fix in sight. On AM4 the culprit was memory controller, with no exposed sensor, so hardware monitors don't report this draw. But the power draw is there if you measure total system draw from wall. I cant find the article anymore, but someone tracked it down with help of thermal camera. On flipside, under heavy load AMD CPU's themselves has better efficiency than Intel, but Tech Notice channel made a calculation that this still favors Intel, under typical usage as video editor
@@AncientGameplays found the article, cant link but search hardsquirrel Power consumption of Ryzen 5000 series CPUs This holds true for me as well. My everyday use PC is based on 5900x, and I recently made Intel i5-12400 PC to replace failing NAS and PLEX etc system. Latter pulls 7 with short jumps to 11w when idle, without much tinkering with C states, AMD pulls 30+. I'm measuring from wall, not with hardware monitors. Like I said, AM4 had one crucial sensor hidden, no idea about AM5. I don't have AM5 myself, but I've read people reporting 50W pull. Same inefficiency on AMD is seen on low usage. All of which is very strange because AMD laptop series do not have this issue(I tested an AMD-based miniPC myself), and AMD is very efficient on high usage
My 6700XT's power draw while idle is at about 20W but the VRAM is at 900MHz. So the power draw isn't bad but the VRAM is pretty high. I wonder if I should try to fix it or not.
Welp, this has fixed it for me, I have a 1440p@144 UW with a secondary 1080p@60, and I always had like 80 Watts at the Standard Refresh Rates, so I can at least use a higher than 60 refresh Rate now with the fiy... Thanks for the Video! Eben though the Power draw while, for example, watching a video is still not Ideal, but at least someone is helping the Issue unlike AMD, if they are even trying anymore.
Like your vidios so much. Very enthusiastic attempt 😉. I think with the latest drivers they already fixed idle power draw on 7900xt. It stays now between 41-50w. I think there is still room for improvement. I did tried your method but it is not changing much. Maybe 2 -3w. Waiting for more. All the best.
it helped my power draw with 2 High refresh rate monitors went down from 102W to 84W then I turned the second monitor down from 240 to 60 and it dropped to 71W so while not totally fixed 70 > 102 idle Thanks! Maybe if i reduce both monitors to just 60 when on desktop that would workout much better.... *Update* reducing both on the desktop has taken me down to 26W I can just change my main back to 165 when I decide to game and all is well in the land of Team Red!
Enable Adaptive Sync! I just checked how much my 6700 that a bought a week ago uses in idle. It drew 23W and VRAM freq. was at 1990mhz. I also noticed that Adaptive sync was not yet turned on. Enabling it took the Vram to 36Mhz and power draw to 5W.
My RX 6800 went from 45W idle at 120Hz to 5W idle at 142Hz. When creating the custom resolution i got an error when i tried to select CVT, so i just left it at Manual instead.
Good finding! This trick works moderately well for me: I had to go all to way back to 50Hz on the secondary FHD monitor with a 4k 60Hz as main monitor. On my 6900XT, I have gone from 35w to 6w idle. But as soon as I play a video on the secondary monitor or do anything mildly intensive, the consumption goes up again to 35w due to VRAM going into gaming clock levels. This shows that the drivers could detect more accurately the load and adjust the clocks accordingly. In the past I had the opposite issue with nvidia: Playing half-life 2 on a 1050ti wouldn't trigger the "gaming" clocks, so a game from 20 years ago was unable to reach 60 fps unless I forced performance mode on driver settings :D
I have basically the same setup as you and finally solved this today, without having to lower refresh rates at all. So glad to finally learn why this happens thanks to Ancient. I used the application CRU, and did not use adrenalin custom resolutions. I edited the Detailed profile in CRU for the existing resolutions. I made no change but to select Blanking and increase the vertical blanking slightly (I did +8 pixels). Might be worth a try.
Does lowering the AMD Radeon VRAM clock introduce DPC Latency issues such as audio pops/crackles or issues with Digital Audio Workstation (DAW) applications? The reason I ask is that Nvidia GPUs in idle P8 state (forces a low VRAM clock) have DPC Latency/audio issues that can be addressed by increasing the the VRAM clock.
Edit: You can also connect one of your monitors to your iGPU/motherboard!
If it doesn't work you can try this video I made as well!
ua-cam.com/video/xhWfShsy_Bk/v-deo.html
This is not just a rx 7000 issue, this issue exists for every amd user using two monitors. The thing is u know this but yet you make this a more positive video. im stilll having to run my monitors that are native 1440p 165 hz Gigabyte M32Q + 1080p 144hz AOC 24g2 @ 120hz & 60hz respectively . It's not good enough to just surrender to that, which is what your suggesting. More needs to be said about this .
I just disabled HDR on my 1440p ultrawide screen and power draw decreased from 45W to around 10W. Mindblown. And disappointed that I can't use HDR without major energy consumption...
Thank you for the video!
It seems that a higher RR would be more logical 145 146 instead of lower and does odd = even matter?
@@sirbughunter my friend when ever you enable hdr you will get more consumption. Your monitor should come with tdp or power usage one without hdr one with hdr. For example my m32Q 1440p monitor pulls and extra 38-40watts when enabling HDR
It seems to me with a frame limiter and freesync premium you achieve similar results to this method but it would be more dependent on monitor model with my alternative.
Don't worry as the RTX 4070 vs RX 6800 vs RX 6950XT is already in the editing part! Some interesting results will come :D
Can't wait 😁😁
ic ic i wait i wait.
So in my case with 120hz, 119 or 118hz?
@@thiagodelgado3128 118 for example
@@AncientGameplays can you make an video undervolting a 6900xt
You are legit a wizard, I have a 5700xt that had the high idle power draw for ages, so I always used 100hz instead of 144hz, to go from 40-45W to 12-13W, with this, 143Hz and 13W, god damn lol I had this problem for ages now. Thank you so much, I knew this channel was good but not wizard good xD
Hahaha, I do what I can 💪
Disappointing they are still having issues like this. I wonder if they ever fixed it on the RX400/500 series cards?
After exiting a game, my RX480 8GB would idle at 40-ish watts at the desktop. It was in the known issues forever until I got a 6700XT.
The fix for that was to force close (via Task Manager) one of those AMD applications. It's been so long I've forgotten which..
And I can't look on my own computer because my motherboard fried.
A mosfet or something popped and there's some kind of liquid running down the back of my Asus ROG B450-F Gaming II.
Had a 5900x in there since last June(?) and all was well.
Turned my computer off and it never started back up lol. Ridiculous. No PBO either. Just Curve Optimizer.
I swear I think Windows 11 killed it. I had deleted the hibernation mode file and disabled it, but somehow accidentally put it to sleep instead of shutting it down.
Because I went to shut it down, saw that it actually went to "Sleep", so I "woke it" then shut it down. That killed it.
Asus ROG B550-F Gaming Wi-Fi II is supposed to be here tomorrow.
Almost went MSI.. and maybe I should have. Either way, assuming it didn't fry everything on my computer, I'll email Asus and Newegg about it and see what they have to say.
And if it killed my 5900x and 6700XT.. and my RAM, etc., I'm gonna be furious. Sorry for the totally off topic venting/ rant.
I've been lost without my PC lol. I'm addicted to computers.
Thanks so much man! Went from 90w idle with dual 1440p monitors at 144hz down to 30w!
Glad i could help
On my 5120 x 1440 it dropped from 117w idle to 40w idle!! Thanks mate your efforts are much appreciated!
Thank you so much. You are an honorable person to the community.
Thank you!
i just can’t do this for some reason… no matter what i do i can’t change the refresh rate of my 240hz monitor in the custom resolution and it’s constantly telling me to clear the errors
I'm getting 'custom resolution settings are not compatible with this display' error on my RX 5700 XT is there a workaround for this?
same
lower hz more, i have 144hz monitor and it only allowed me to create when I gave 141hz (143, 142 i have same error as u)
Good to know that this old fix (I had to do it on the RX 470 and GTS 450) is still a known fix. Weird that it happens still. I would manually switch back to normal 75Hz when using PS/drawing, and then back to 73Hz for everything else.
1080p 144Hz + 1080p 60Hz Dual Monitor Setup with a 6700XT
Went from ~33W Idle to 5-7W Idle
Thank you so much mate! 😊
I have 2560x1440 @ 165Hz + 1920x1080 @ 120Hz. Even If I decrease the 1440 to just 60Hz and the 1080 to 30Hz, my 6800 still draws 36W :(
Did you do anything other than drop refresh rate 1 Hz lower than max, and select CVT?
@@Lamentta No, I just did that.
@@Lamenttaits the monitor or cable
Thanks! Setting a custom resolution seems to have fixed my idle power draw issue. It seems to be with the timing standard. Just creating a custom res and changing the timing standard from manual to CVT worked for me. Went from 90 watts at idle to 20 watts. I have a 27" 1080p @ 60hz monitor and 32" 1440p @ 165hz. Thanks again!
Great!
I'm really glad I found you AMD Jesus. Reduced the Powerdraw from my 7900XTX from around 60W idle to 6W. Speechless was my first reaction. Thanks to you, I've already learned many things from various of your videos. The AMD software is also really nice to work with. My new build is an R7 7800X3D and RX 7900XTX, runs really well. Despite people always bashing AMD, and me coming from Nvidia and Intel, I'm surprised this works :D Your channel is my new source for any AMD news 👍
Thanks for the trust
The only issue with this fix is that you're forced to use 6bit color depth. For me, having main monitor at 1440p 144hz (freesync on) and then 2nd at 1440p 60hz (freesync off) on 2nd, I get 10w power draw on my XTX. Works for 4k main monitor/1440p with same settings, giving 15w power draw while maintaining 8bit color depth.
Try CRU then 💪
@@AncientGameplays Does CRU even work for 7000 series? :o But I'm not having any issues, just explaining what works for me to get really low idle power draw :D
I've been waiting this video for a while now. Thank you so much!
Thank you as well!
I thought it was a well known fix. For multi-monitor setups, if you play only using 1 of them for gaming, editing etc. You even don't have to bother with custom resolutions. Just go to Windows settings > System > Display > Advanced Display Settings and there change refresh rate for your 2nd, 3rd etc. monitors to 60hz. Your main monitor can be kept without any changes. Voila - Enjoy 10W Idle instead of 150W.
for me it dropped to 50W-70W idle, which is still quite a lot imo
@@Skerathh wallpaper engine or something similar in the background ?
@@Drejkol my other monitor is set at 60hz and the main one at 165hz but the draw is still around 40W. Didnt test out the custom resolution but it might still help reducing it
@@Drejkol Actually just tested out the custom resolution and it totally disables my monitor once i put the custom 163hz so definitely wouldnt be doing that lol
@@Drejkol nop, no background processes whatsoever
In my case, I have two 1440p@165 Hz monitors and consuming 90 W idle. I had to lower my second monitor to 95 Hz to drop consumption to 48 W. VRAM clock dropped from 2500 MHz to 909 MHz. I'd need to lower it to 60 Hz for 12 W consumption, but I was getting used to smooth web page scrolling, can't go lower than that now. :D
I had a problem, on Linux, that the vram frequency would be very high on 144 Hz, and then I simply selected 120 Hz from the menu and the problem was gone. Very strange. Oh, and it was on an RX 6600 XT, which makes me wonder how could the same ploblem happen on a different OS and a GPU from a different generation.
You're great Fabio, thanks again. Just got an rx 6800 and now im tweaking and optimizing everything thanks to your videos. Even this one worked great as expected :)
I found this fix a while back and applied it. It helps but doesn't completely fix the issue. In my dual monitor setup (1x 144Hz + 1x 60Hz) with 7900XTX, it reduces the power draw from ~115 to ~50 for the loss of a couple of fps. I hope AMD keep working on this. Any ideas to reduce the wattage further?
I'm on a single 120Hz 1440 monitor and an hitting 60w to 100W on a brand new 7800xt just in UA-cam. 30W on desktop idle, this fix didn't help unfortunately. Considering trying to return for a 4070 because this is unacceptable.
For Multi Monitor Setup the same workaround is usefull. Second or more Monitor Setups create for the other Monitors also a Custom Resolution but with 60, 75 or 100hz and also CVT or alternative CVT Reduce Blanking method. The Idle Powerdraw decrease to 12W with 2x or 3x Monitors on 6750XT normal 36W.
I'll definitely keep this in mind for when I build my PC! Appreciate it!
By the way, if you're looking to make more benchmarking videos including NFS unbound, I would recommend to mainly check out some of the more intensive scenarios, mainly starting a race inside the city area. When you have all those cars onscreen as well as all the buildings and pedestrians and traffic cars, the FPS takes a hit the hardest there, and the same thing happened with its predecessor, NFS Heat. Just something to consider!
Yes I know, i will do it to benchmark CPUs
Nice work on the custom resolution.
Back from 110 watts to 60 watts idle
Cara, eu sou brasileiro e você foi o único que me ajudou, aqui no BR tem muito pouco conteúdo sobre AMD, valeu meu amigo 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Man, I'm Brazilian and you were the only one who helped me, here in BR there's very little content about AMD, thanks my friend 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Fico contente de ter ajudado! Um abraço!
@@AncientGameplays estava falando ptbr com o cachorro?
na hora soltei um WTF?
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Thank you ! This also works with 6000 series.From 40 W to 6 :) Thanks again.
you're welcome
i tried these options, did make a difference from 32-33W to 19-24W. but if i put any of my refresh rates past 60MHz goes to 32W on average. thinking i'll keep my MHz at 144 since it not much at all. great find though man, this will definetely help those with higher idle power draw. keep up the great work.
Can you tell me what board and CPU you got? This is total power draw right?
thank you so much sir 🙌🙌🙌🙌
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In the case of my Gigabyte 144hz 4K M28U connected to a 7900xt over DP it says, "The custom resolution setting are not compatible with your display". Changing refresh-rate of my monitor doesn't before hand also doesn't seem to help. I also tried CTV - Reduced Blanking.
same with my 27gn950 4k monitor
Did u guys find fix? I have same issue with my dell monitor
lower hz more, i have 144hz monitor and it only allowed me to create when I gave 141hz (143, 142 i have same error as u)
again, a big help ! down from 48 w to 12 w on a 6950xt! thanks big dude !
Great 💪💪
5700 xt had this exact issue for so long. I remember finding the cvt reduced blanking fix and it immediately dropped VRAM clocks. Hopefully they resolve it in driver updates.
Holy shit, this actually worked!!!! Been messing with CRU for the the last couple of days without much success. I have an RX6750XT and triples (1080p, 2x60Hz and 1x165Hz). Previously anything above 100Hz would give 38W idle, with 100Hz running at around 10W idle. With this method I was able to make a 150Hz custom resolution, which doesn't max out the Vram clock and runs at 10W. Anything higher just gave me a black screen, but 150Hz is still a lot better than 100Hz
for those who may not find a solution (perhaps because they have a monitor with a low refresh rate) to excessive consumption of their GPU, check if desktop recording is active. I have a 6700 xt and a 75Hz monitor: by disabling desktop recording I decreased idle power consumption from 35-35W to 5-10W. and yes, this is black magic.
it dropped from 50 to 15 for my 6800xt! But I like the ReLive Desktop feature :(
you're the real mvp here.
Thank you.
@@Flynnycore Hello I have the same as you. Can you please explain where to click to disable this?
My MSRP red devil is arriving tomorrow, so your video is more than welcome!;))
Could you create a comparison video between AMD Wattman and MSI Afterburner, highlighting the pros and cons of each? Please compare the features available in both programs and recommend which one you would prefer for AMD graphics cards as well as Nvidia cards. Currently, I am struggling to decide which one to use as both have advantages that I would like to utilize, but using both simultaneously causes conflicts. Additionally, could you create a video demonstrating how to create a modern, aesthetically pleasing OSD design for MSI Afterburner? Many OSDs often look cheap, and I have seen some users create their own designs that look great in benchmarking videos. I know this is a LOT to ask, but I am sure it will be helpful to many people
Its easy, Afterburner is the best for monitoring (much more advanced) and Adrenalin is better for OC/UV as you can't undervolt easily with Afterburner
biggest difference for me is the fan tuning. Adrenalin allows you to set Zero RPM and does not use any cpu cycles, msi afterburner will always run in the background even if you are not using the OSD, consuming like 1-2% cpu , which admittedly most people wont care about ,but I am one of those trying to squeeze every last drop of performance.
I second this specially for the MSI OSD display, as I've been trying to figure out forever how to make mines look like UA-camrs that do benchmarks, mines look cheap and basic as well with no names besides it.
I like doing this, find my oc settings through the amd software, run msi save profile, reinstall the drivers for the minimal and have msi auto apply upon startup. I hate using amd wattman because sometimes even though your oc is stable it would reset randomly >.>
OSD I just use HWinfo + rivatuner
4:27 There's a G.Pixel Clock error here. I'm getting the same thing and I can't save the new configuration. Any idea?
Mine works as soon as I move to the options like CVT
On my XTX on my 4K 120Hz screen it's close to 90-100W idle power draw with the memory clock pinned close to 2500MHz! Looking forward to trying out your fix
That vram at 2500Mhz is the issue! Hope this helps!
Any luck? I have LG C2 with 4K 120Hz too but this fix doesn't work for me.. tried 60-120 Hz and did the custom for 118-119 Hz, unfortunately no change.
@@Snodrage I have the same, a 48" C2 and 65" QNED80 and can't even get a custom resolution between 60 Hz and 120 Hz to be created as I get pixel clock error. My VRAM is pegged at 2000 MHz with my 6900XT at any refresh rate at any available refresh rate above 60 Hz. 10-bit color is the standard I am seeing for the QNED, temporarily have the C2 disconnected for installing wall mount.
Wow, thanks man, it really worked on my LG C1! I created a custom 118Hz resolution with CVT enabled and now my idle power draw is down from 100W to 20W, wow. Thanks so much man ❤.
@@Snodrage Can confirm it worked for me on my C1
Your English is fine! Keep up the great work with helping people!
Didn't work for me. Tried 143 and 142.
Having primary display (4k monitor) set to 60hz and secondary monitor (1440p) set to 144hz causes the 100w issue. Only way to reduce power draw under 30w was to set the secondary display to 60hz. Feels kinda shitty and i hope they fix it soon.
Dual monitors have to be more tweaked I suppose, you can try and use one monitor in the iGPU/motherboard connection
Thank you for another great in depth video on AMD stuff, also used your GVG MALL code!
Thanks!
I managed to fix the problem on my 7900XT dual monitor 1440p 144Hz + 1080p 144Hz setup using Custom Resolution Utility (CRU) by increasing the vertical blanking on both monitors. Both are still running at 144Hz. Color Depth is still on the highest bpc for both monitors (10bpc and 8bpc).
All of this was done on Adrenaline Version 23.7.1.
These values will be different for every monitor model, brand, refresh rate and resolution so do not copy these numbers. This is just the result of me messing around with the vertical blanking (and nothing else inside CRU) on my specific monitors:
LG 27GN800-B, 1440p 144Hz: from 103 (default) to at least 109 and
ViewSonic XG2401, 1080p 144Hz: from 77 (default) to at least 82.
I tried these values separately while having the other monitor on default, didn't work. It had to be done for both if I want it to work while using both.
I first increased both in bigger increments and at some point the memory clock started going down, from there I decreased them by smaller increments until the memory clock went back up again to find the lowest vertical blanking I can set without it going back up because I don't know if increasing it by too much could affect the lifespan of a monitor so I'd rather keep it at minimum.
The memory clock now fluctuates between 49 and 112 MHz with about 25W according to the Adrenalin Software. Before all of this it didn't go any lower than 909 MHz. The power consumption goes back up to around 45W while watching videos on a browser with hardware acceleration. After turning the hardware acceleration off I can let the video under which I'm typing this comment play and the Total Board Power stays between 25W and 27W. (I'm using the AMD Performance Overlay to read the total board power because it will fluctuate between 35 and 50 if I check the numbers in the performance tab of the Adrenalin Software.)
I don't know if this comment could be helpful to anyone but I thought this might be interesting for some people.
The video in the pinned comment explains how to use this method but I thought that more people might see this in this comment section because this one is more recent
Thx for the videos! After waiting for long time finally upgraded from Rx 570 to Rx 6700xt. Very happy with this card. Still need some tuning 👍
Great upgrade
I changed my refresh rate from 144hz to 120hz on idle rx 5700xt gpu power draw went from 32w to 12w
Thanks for sharing this fix, I was searching for fixes a couple weeks ago because I noticed this problem when connecting a secondary 60Hz monitor to my 6750XT.
I found nothing on the webs, just people recommending to learn to live with that fact because AMD states it's "normal" behavior for the VRAM to act like that (which is complete BS).
My fix was to clock down my main monitor from 120Hz to 60Hz, right now we're in a crazy tropical heatwave and I decided to give up framerates to keep my system a bit cooler.
I have this issue with a 6700xt. On idle if I use 165hz, my idle power draw is about 35W. However if I just change it to 144hz it immediately goes down to about 5 or 6W 💀
144hz don't do it for me, i had to go as low as 120hz
@@voice5sur5 Somewhat same thing here: 120 Hz without a second screen adn 100 hz with a second screen to get it idle properly.
Can't believe it actually works!!! Just increase my LG 27GP850-B to 180hz and AOC 24G2 to 120Hz then BAM. The wattage goes down from 100W+ to 40 something. Thx a lot AG!!
Great to hear! 💪💪
I must set my second and third Monitor on 60hz (Normally he has 75) my 1 Monitor has 144hz. When i take the 2 and 3 Monitor on 75hz i get 120w power draw on idle:/
Try this 💪
@@AncientGameplays it works :D NICE!
Thank you! This fixed my issue on my Powercolor Red Devil 7900XTX.
Great!
i loves Radeon High Idle Power Draw
mine is like 8 watts lmao
Another FAB video from Fabio
Great video keep it up!
Thanks!
Awesome, thanks for the tip! Switching to the DMT mode instead of CVT worked as it let it actually have the really long blanking which helps the memory calm down (I tried to do this manually in the custom resoilution utility tool first, but I think my display port cable is too poor to just add a ton more blanking on its own)
don't forget to adjust your fps cap to -2fps less . So if you had 141cap at 144hz ,now you need 139cap at 142.
True
why
For me the case of near 70w idle power usage on brand new 7800xt was the Brave browser, so if this is not helping check what apps are running in background too.
Ahhh, I was excited this would work! But when I try to create a 142 Hz custom rez, the G.Pixel Clock shows an error and I can't save it. Interestingly, as soon as I open the Custom Resolutions before changing anything, it also shows an error on G.Pixel Clock rate. Odd. Have an Alienware AW3821DW. (38" 144hz IPS panel (3800 X 1600) from LG.(
Having the same problem.
Use CVT or CVT blanking or if it still doesn't work use CRU with the video you have in the pinned comment
My monitor is a 170 Hz acer, I had the same issue. I've just gone into the windows display settings and dropped the Hz from 170 to 165 as that was the next one down. The GPU board power went from around 48w to 50w and is now sitting on 18w to 26w. Vram clock went from 909mhz solid to 32mhz to 56mhz.
New method, turn on “ Adaptive sync compatible “ tested this multiple times and idle power draw goes from 23w to 5w
the settings is located at global display settings
that's not a new method lol, Adaptive sync/VRR/Freesync should be always enabled... it's 2024
Will have to try this. Thnx for doing AMDs job Fábio 😂
I do what I can hahaha
This actually worked like a charm, went from 90w to like 10w, running dual monitors 1440/165 and 1080/75. Set custom res as per video to 162hz and all good. Cheers bud.
Você é incrível. Muito obrigado!
Obrigado eu!
A new video with the best UA-camr of the world with is glasses 😂😂❤
Do you think AMD will ever officialy fix this issue?
I sincerely believe so, how much will it take though? Don't know...
3:00 are u currently using these Tuning settings or are they just for the video?
Those are one of them
@@AncientGameplays isnt it better to set a higher min freq like in ur overclocking guide?
Helpful. Adding to this, if you play on a tv screen, mine is 4k 120 hz lcd, don't forget to update your firmware and buy good hdmi cables, 2.0, or 2.1 version.
this could also triggers consumption and compatibility problems....with the graphic card driver.
everything is solved for me, since previous AMD drivers.
but some games may have HDR, vsync, or resolution (fullscreen, borderless window,....) problems.
Certainly driver issue.
but companies can't test every system pairing made by users.........
don't forget cables !
and keep on Fabio, 😊
Just create new resolution, go from manual to CVT and do not change anything else. On my 6700 XT I went from 30W to 6W. Works fine :) Thanks for your advice...
Hello Fabio, thank you very much for this video. For me power draw dropped from 90W to 13W by using 142Hz instead of 144Hz. Greetings from Germany Markus
Great to hear that!
Works Great. Only started to get the problem with 24.1.1.
go back to 23.12.1
In my case the power draw was high around 100W idle. Only if both monitor is on 60hz then going down to 15-20w, but with the latest driver if 1 monitor is on 144hz then still ok 15-20w.
6700xt from 27w idle down to just 6w!
Thx a lot for the help
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it worked for me thanks, I had to set different RR for my dual monitors = main 2K UW (142HZ) + 2nd monitor 2K (95Hz), I couldn't set the 2nd at the same 142Hz and had to go down to 95Hz to see a change in the PD
It went from 102W - 106W down to 52W - 58W idle
great!
for me it was "instant replay" that was keeping memory at high idle clock, so disabling "record desktop" toggle allows the clocks to sit at around 170mhz browsing web and windows
hi men i try this on my 6700xt and works fine!, 44w down to 7-16w greetings from colombia!!
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Amazing, dropped from 37 watts to 7. I love it
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@@AncientGameplays Unfortunately on the zowie XL2546K I cannot set the refresh a few numbers under, only to 200, but I had to drop it to 144 to get the 7 watt idle, I suppose I'll have to switch it back and forth :p
Thanks for the upload! I had quite some issues with my 5700xt & 6700xt in conjunction with a lenovo 75hz panel. The only thing that worked was CRU and soon as i upgraded to a proper dell panel with 144hz the issues were gone. So in conclusion, some panels are just plain inefficient, requiring more memory hz to keep up with the refresh rate, unless you use amazing tools like CRU and Radeon Settings.
good job with outro!!! pubg mobile lubby soundtrack 🤩
Thanks haha
Thanks for this very well done and informative video.
i just changed the hz from 120 to 100.
watt dropped from ~90 to ~30
very useful
Hello, 3 screen here and 42w idle and maxxed out vram speed at all time, 1x1080p@144hz, 1x 1080p@60hz, 1x2160p@60hz, on a RX6800, couldnt set a custom resolution for my screen, even if i leave it all by default it says my display isnt compatible, if I disable the 2160p screen, its the same, if I only lower the 144hz to 120hz, its the same, but if I lower it to 60hz, i go down to 9w idle... But I dont wanna run 60 hz on my main monitor ^^"
That seems okay for 3 screens though
@@AncientGameplays what do you think of this? community.amd.com/t5/graphics/rx-6800-xt-high-idle-memory-clock/m-p/442570
thank you so much mine was idleing at 100 watts (RX 7900 XT) an now it's at 10 watts, my electric bill can't thank you enough
Also I did try this method in your video Fabio but it didn't work. Set up a custom resolution for 164hz instead of 165hz in the AMD software but my monitor then showed a message saying it didn't support that refresh rate when I changed it in the Windows settings and wouldn't display anything til i changed it back to 165hz.
try lowering even more your HZ. My case is a 144hz but this only worked if it was set lower than 120hz
Will have to try this out.
Dual monitor (old Dell 60Hz office monitor and new Gigabyte M27Q 170Hz, Freesync on) draws idle power around 40-45W with 6800 XT, VRAM locked at 2138MT/s (as set with overclock). VRAM downclocks properly and power draw drops to 11-12W when refresh rates are set to 60 & 60, 60 & 120, etc from Windows display settings...
Sadly both of my monitors were stating it was incompatible with the custom resolution unless i went down to 100hz on both monitors or 60hz on one. I'll keep using my CPU for my second monitor until AMD fixes this.
Didn't help for me unfortunately, and your previous video didn't help me either :(. However, I found that the problem only occurs when I have more than 1 monitor connected. If I only have my main monitor connected, my VRAM Clock is at normal level and the watts too..
Does anyone have another solution please? :((
sad, what's your combo also?
@@AncientGameplays my main-monitor is a Medion Erazer Spectator X10 (MD 21505)
-QHD
-165hz
-curved
-IPS Panel
-27"
Absolutely nice monitor. My second monitor is an old Benq with FHD 60hz, and then i got a little Sensor-Panel Display with 1200x800 @60hz behind my Flat-Reservoir, all connected to a 7900XTX. I also found out, that the vram clock and wattage is normal, when only my display and my second-monitor (without my main-monitor) are plugged in. Maybe its too much data with all the displays and monitors, that triggers this problem.
Should save this for later whenever I get a 7900 oriented GPU in the future
Cool trick, thank you! Once custom resolution failed me: when I connected both a 720p TV and a 1080p monitor onto the same HDMI slot using an HDMI splitter (so that my TV shows the monitor screen at 1080p), my monitor changed resolution down to 720p, and I could not select 1080p in the display settings. Not only deleting custom resolutions is tricky (because you cannot delete active resolutions), but also only factory reset helped me bring the higher resolution back. I don't know why, but at least I keep every display at 60 Hz, so no idle power consumption issues. Then why did I experiment with custom resolutions? I saw that weird 59.9 Hz refresh rate on one of my displays I wanted to get rid of...
Are you sure color bit depth goes down to 6 bit. That is really low. If you have a display that has 6 bit + FRC that is fine because the display takes 8 bit signal and "fakes" it on the 6 bit panel. But if you have a native 8 bit panel sending only 6 bit might actually be visually very noticeable. If not it might just still be 8 bit. With me only 10 bit goes away, and color gets locked to 8 bit.
On my RX 580 I have the same problem with my 1080p 165HZ display. I have to manually tune a custom resolution to allow the memory to clock down during idle. I have to increase vertical blanking, but than my display shows an overlay with out of range even though it's displaying properly otherwise. Lowering from 165 to 162Hz fixes it completely.
Yes, it shows in the video.
Sold my 470 to a friend for $400, bought me a 4080. Undervolted it locked it at 2600mhz +800
No you don't actually. You feel the difference only if you can't do the basic steps on your AMD card, that's all. I've tested several AMD and NVIDIA cards and I can easily say that
@@AncientGameplays I'm sure for a good portion that's true. However, I've tried a 6800xt, and after installing any drivers it wouldn't post. Went into safe mode, fresh windows installs, complete DDU. The most extreme of things. And still it just wouldn't post with any driver installed. returned it.
Then got a 7900xtx and at first it was ok, it was great performance in allot of the newer games, but then some older ones like assassins creed origins ran terribly. 70fps in the main city. Just odd performance. But then the "new" drivers came out and games would just crash on me. Out of no where I'd get a "Driver timeout" SO then of course I went through the proccess of completely fresh wiping the previous, chipset first, then drivers, and vise versa. No matter what I did the problems persisted. And huge frame spikes. Went back to the previous drivers? and boom ran fine.
Each time this happened, I got a Nvidia card after and never, have I ever, needed to do such things. There is a clear quality difference between the two. Even in this video you mention the issues many people with 7900xtx have suffered. I like AMD, and I'm a bit of a fanboy for AMD. I want to see them continue to succeed. But I'm also not into personal incredulity. I can see the quality difference. AMD works well so long as your current build, bios and all things align with the stars and it likes you.
I don't want to make excuses for AMD, or any glitches by labeling them basic steps as some kind of acceptable norm. It's not acceptable. Be they simple, complex, or easy. Deff when paying 1000+
Friend from work (I work at microcenter) also had to return his 7900xtx, second monitor only had video artifacts. We hooked it up to our test bench and the results were replicated. But on the 3rd test bench it worked fine. This is absurd.
Turning on metrics within AMD caused lag spikes when using it. Replicated even on latest drivers. We tested it, that's right again on 4 test benches ranging from AMD to Intel current, and previous gens.
2 lag spiked, 1 didn't, and 1 did once in a while.
If we throw every issue away as "well just don't use it" or "Not a big deal, use Afterburner" It's an endless perpetual excuse for something that is broke.
one test bench, when the driver crashed during a certain test, it literally corrupted the entire windows install.
We test things heavily at microcenter in our tech department. It looks like a mad scientist lab behind the doors.
there is without a doubt, without a single doubt, more issues on AMD then on Nvidia, and overall your performance will be more consistent across a large scale of games, not just the ones tested here, or on other channels known to work well perpetually.
At the microcenter I work at in rockville md, we get so many AMD cards back for THESE very issues. I have real data I deal with on the daily. Not just the experience of a sole individual.
We actually now give out a disclaimer to those looking to do their first build. that if you Choose AMD an advanced user is recommended. We never get an Nvidia return, or have any issues ever stated aside from literally coming DOA.
Again, this is based on actual daily data and statistics. There is a difference in quality, and certainly in ease of use and reliability.
This isn't to say not buy AMD. But to ignore the endless list of possible issues is not just ignorant, but dishonest to those watching. We should never allow our EGO, or desire to protect what we love to cloud our judgment.
With this said, saying I do not have a smoother experience on Nvidia than I did on AMD is rather silly. I'll let that one slide. Very aggressive, and honestly delusional.
I like you, I love your videos. But you're not an engineer, and you don't have the data I have based on thousands and thousands of people that we deal with. No, if someone pays 1000+ it should work, and it should all work. All the time. Aside from a shadow flicker or something in 1 game that requires a patch.
Remember, this is real Data, it's not based on 1 individuals data or a following of those who are getting good results. this is based on Unbiased data from random people.
your comments are littered with people having issues. having a fix, or something you can do yourself doesn't make it ok. It makes it something that's broke, that YOU'RE needing to fix YOURSELF.
And instead of spending that valuable time playing and enjoying your games or content, you're spending it watching videos on how to maybe fix what's broke. It's not ok.
i am trying this, but when I attempt to create one, a red exclamation mark appears near some of the settings and I cannot create a custom resolution, it says I have to clear the errors before I can move on.
EDIT: It works if I do it for 142 hertz, but if I do it for 238 (because I have a 240 hz monitor) it does not allow me to make the resolution.
Try to change just the refresh rate or just the timings option
Thank you! Monitor (Msi 1440p 165hz) wouldn't go to 142. Dropped it to 120 and perfecto! Good enough for my old eyes to use! Dropped from 49W idle to 7-11 Watts
You should leave it on 165, just change Manual to CVT, works fine...
Fixed the high idle power usage multi-monitor (2x144Hz 1440p)
Managed to fix the high idle power usage by setting the G. Pixel Clock higher to 590000 (144.838) to both monitors. Wanted to share this as soon as possible. This dropped my 110watt usage to 50watts TDP.
Contact me if you need help setting this up.
Of course I had to share this as soon as possible, because this is the fix that I needed so bad and I know many others also have this problem with multiple monitors. AMD rejoice!
This could also be content for the pc doctor series ^^
Thank you for your video!
I have used your way to set my 1440p ultrawide monitor from 144hz to 142hz,
It works!!
It is from around 115~120 watts drops to around 20 to 35 watts!!
is a good thing that we finally have a way to find out what the problem is.
But sadly,
I have an dual monitor
it is an 1080p 144Hz monitor
I tried to set it to 142hz
idle power go up to 100 watts again!
I have to set it to 60hz to stable the power draw
what a waste !
BTW thanks again for your video
it helps alot!
High idle power consumption is problem with AM4 and AM5 (desktop) CPU as well. With no fix in sight. On AM4 the culprit was memory controller, with no exposed sensor, so hardware monitors don't report this draw. But the power draw is there if you measure total system draw from wall. I cant find the article anymore, but someone tracked it down with help of thermal camera.
On flipside, under heavy load AMD CPU's themselves has better efficiency than Intel, but Tech Notice channel made a calculation that this still favors Intel, under typical usage as video editor
Not really, its 30W of SOC+Core+MISC, its not that bad, but yeah, on gaming its way more efficient than Intel counterparts, not even comparable
@@AncientGameplays found the article, cant link but search hardsquirrel Power consumption of Ryzen 5000 series CPUs
This holds true for me as well. My everyday use PC is based on 5900x, and I recently made Intel i5-12400 PC to replace failing NAS and PLEX etc system. Latter pulls 7 with short jumps to 11w when idle, without much tinkering with C states, AMD pulls 30+. I'm measuring from wall, not with hardware monitors. Like I said, AM4 had one crucial sensor hidden, no idea about AM5. I don't have AM5 myself, but I've read people reporting 50W pull.
Same inefficiency on AMD is seen on low usage. All of which is very strange because AMD laptop series do not have this issue(I tested an AMD-based miniPC myself), and AMD is very efficient on high usage
My 6700XT's power draw while idle is at about 20W but the VRAM is at 900MHz. So the power draw isn't bad but the VRAM is pretty high. I wonder if I should try to fix it or not.
20W is perfectly fine I would say
PowerColor Red Devil 6800 XT here. My draw is something like 8 - 12W idle. Small fluctuations of course as the PC is doing different things.
Welp, this has fixed it for me, I have a 1440p@144 UW with a secondary 1080p@60, and I always had like 80 Watts at the Standard Refresh Rates, so I can at least use a higher than 60 refresh Rate now with the fiy... Thanks for the Video! Eben though the Power draw while, for example, watching a video is still not Ideal, but at least someone is helping the Issue unlike AMD, if they are even trying anymore.
you have come through again my boy!!! What game were you playing when you showed up to the car meet in the beginning of your video?? CP?
Need for speed unbound?
@@AncientGameplays that must be it! It looked good. Thank you!
Like your vidios so much. Very enthusiastic attempt 😉. I think with the latest drivers they already fixed idle power draw on 7900xt. It stays now between 41-50w. I think there is still room for improvement. I did tried your method but it is not changing much. Maybe 2 -3w. Waiting for more. All the best.
40w is not fixed my friend, not unless you're running a dual or triple setup
Yeah you might be right. Hopefully they will get that fixed any soon. It takes long those days. Take care.
it helped my power draw with 2 High refresh rate monitors went down from 102W to 84W then I turned the second monitor down from 240 to 60 and it dropped to 71W so while not totally fixed 70 > 102 idle Thanks! Maybe if i reduce both monitors to just 60 when on desktop that would workout much better.... *Update* reducing both on the desktop has taken me down to 26W I can just change my main back to 165 when I decide to game and all is well in the land of Team Red!
Enable Adaptive Sync! I just checked how much my 6700 that a bought a week ago uses in idle. It drew 23W and VRAM freq. was at 1990mhz. I also noticed that Adaptive sync was not yet turned on. Enabling it took the Vram to 36Mhz and power draw to 5W.
That should be a given, everyone should enable it...
My RX 6800 went from 45W idle at 120Hz to 5W idle at 142Hz. When creating the custom resolution i got an error when i tried to select CVT, so i just left it at Manual instead.
You did well, but check if you monitor can handle 142, because unless it is a 144Hz, you might lose the ability to use freesync
@@AncientGameplays thanks for the warning, it is a 144hz monitor so i think i'm good.
Good finding! This trick works moderately well for me: I had to go all to way back to 50Hz on the secondary FHD monitor with a 4k 60Hz as main monitor. On my 6900XT, I have gone from 35w to 6w idle. But as soon as I play a video on the secondary monitor or do anything mildly intensive, the consumption goes up again to 35w due to VRAM going into gaming clock levels. This shows that the drivers could detect more accurately the load and adjust the clocks accordingly. In the past I had the opposite issue with nvidia: Playing half-life 2 on a 1050ti wouldn't trigger the "gaming" clocks, so a game from 20 years ago was unable to reach 60 fps unless I forced performance mode on driver settings :D
I have basically the same setup as you and finally solved this today, without having to lower refresh rates at all. So glad to finally learn why this happens thanks to Ancient.
I used the application CRU, and did not use adrenalin custom resolutions. I edited the Detailed profile in CRU for the existing resolutions. I made no change but to select Blanking and increase the vertical blanking slightly (I did +8 pixels). Might be worth a try.
Does lowering the AMD Radeon VRAM clock introduce DPC Latency issues such as audio pops/crackles or issues with Digital Audio Workstation (DAW) applications?
The reason I ask is that Nvidia GPUs in idle P8 state (forces a low VRAM clock) have DPC Latency/audio issues that can be addressed by increasing the the VRAM clock.
Never had such issues here, not with any nvidia or amd card