I wanna say to everyone constantly saying "Karen is a nobody why would they want to frame her?" It doesn't matter if she's a nobody or not. Not everyone that gets framed is framed because they are somebody... She was in the right place at the wrong time. She is a scapegoat for the real murders. It happens all the time. Someone just happens to be there, they are the perfect person to pin it on to get away with their own crimes. In fact, being the girlfriend of the victim only helps because the first suspects are almost always those closest to the victim.
@@ringring6618 Apparently. Along with the female lying furefighter who barely knows Caitlin Alpirt until shes shown pics of her partying with her arm around Caitlin. Ths is the most egregious case f corruption Ive ever seen. And when Read is found not guilty or overturned on appeal, she should sue Proctor, the Troopers, the Fire Dept and anyone else involved in this bullchit and the most unprofessional Judge Ive ever seen. Reminiscent of the Judge in the movie The Verdict.
@@ringring6618 Yes, yes they are. They are all friends with the Alberts. They also happen to be the ONLY ones that heard her say it?? Also, why did the snow plow driver say that he saw NO body outside at around 2:45-3AM, which was around the same time that McCabe googled how long it takes to die in the cold. The snow plow driver did several passes until 6 am and John was not out there at any point. McCabe, who was with her during that time stated, initially to the Grand Jury, that Read ASKED the question, "Did I hit him?" but after the paramedic's BS lies changed her story to Read saying, "I hit him." So you tell me. Yes, they are in on it.
The judge is so inappropriate. Signing like she’s annoyed or bored… directing and guiding the witness and cutting the defense attorney off… incredibly unprofessional. I hope the jury isn’t taking cues from her.
Witness Katie McLaughlin (a Canton Firefighter/Paramedic) graduated from Canton High w/ Caitlin Albert in 2014. When the Defense brought up photos of McLaughlin socializing & being in the same friend group w/ Caitlin Albert, Lally objected to the jury seeing those photos. Judge Cannone sustained. This jury is being deprived of any knowledge & evidence of the many ways in which the Alberts had their hands in this investigation. *Kevin Albert, Brian Albert's brother, arranged Katie McLaughlin's interview* w/ MSP Trooper Proctor _AFTER_ Canton PD was expelled & Massachusetts State Police was assigned to investigate instead (due to a _conflict of interest_ with Kevin & Brian's relationship). Kevin was conflicted out & then spoke to the witness - which could be called "witness tampering!" This is the _ONLY_ witness who claims to have heard Karen say she hit John, and she happens to be biased - yey the judge doesn't want the jury to know that! In fact, she prevented them from knowing it, and they must instead infer the truth solely from Jackson's unanswered questions of McLaughlin as to who arranged her police interview. This is a violation of Karen Read's rights & prohibitive of a fair trial. A man was found deceased on Brian Albert's lawn, and NOBODY in his home at the time was ever investigated. The home was never SEARCHED. Trooper Proctor's text messages to friends revealed that the Alberts _wouldn't be investigated_ because Brian was "a Boston cop." The corruption has been *_displayed on a silver platter_*
The simple fact that a first responder was found unconscious in the front yard of another first responder and his wife never bothered to get her husband to come outside to respond while waiting on an ambulance I take scream volumes to the jury
Once she said she heard her say she hit him, she started stuttering and having trouble completing sentences. She looks uncomfortable, eyes jumping around. Behavior changed right after she said it. Signs of dishonesty.
The judge is disgusted. Because the defense has no merit and ridiculous! This isn't the 1960s. Some people are clueless! Cops are not framing a murder scene! Just wait till you see all the evidence! Especially when they show that her vehicle was traveling 60 ft in reverse at over 20 miles an hour. And John's hair was found in the tail lights. She's a psycho cop killer.
Shes friends with the homeowner of the house where he was murdered on. The injuries aren't consistent with being hit by a car they're from a dog the homeowner had and sold a week or two later. Then they sold the house! She shouldn't even be the judge for this.
The judge is disgusted. Because the defense has no merit and ridiculous! This isn't the 1960s. Some people are clueless! Cops are not framing a murder scene! Just wait till you see all the evidence! Especially when they show that her vehicle was traveling 60 ft in reverse at over 20 miles an hour. And John's hair was found in the tail lights. She's a psycho cop killer.
I was just about to make the same comment apart from the mistrial part because sighing will not cause a mistrial, however she seems to be quite bias in favor of the State, so depending on how this all goes, her bias ways may cause a mistrial.
Doesn’t it say something that the judge will sustain almost every objection from the prosecution, however when she can’t sustain the objection, she says “I’ll let him have it” instead of OVER-RULED. She has yet to use the words OVER-RULED!
It was still very dark out amidst a blizzard. By the time John was found and in the ambulance on the way to the hospital was a very short window of time. After the ambulance departed, the homeowners were awaken and LE went inside to interview them.
@@TuesdayGazette LE Never set foot into the home of the police officer. Not Once ! Not Ever…!Not the night John was found. Not the day after…not ever ! You’d think they’d be curious to see what he had to say considering the body was on his lawn. Maybe he saw or heard something ? Maybe there was a missing shoe in the home or blood of the victim ? And I don’t care what time of night it is… If 6 police cars, a fire truck & ambulance are outside your home with the lights flashing you’re going to come out & inquire about what happened.
I think the firehouse and the police station have been discussing and gossiping about this case and figuring out who to trust with the coverup and who is the “weak link” and what evidence is there? Etc etc …so all their testimony is faulty.
They all seem to suffer from some form of dementia . Or they had someone in their ear telling everyone to stick to this one storyline, that they heard I hit him, I hit him , I hit him. Didn’t Karen say. “Did I hit him”?
Very strange that everyone has a very, very vague recollection of that day, but they all specifically remember Karen saying something and what she said, and they all remember the missing shoe.
She has also said "I'll let him have it" twice so far as her response to objections by Lalley. She is a disgraceful judge. Sighing constantly and showing extreme bias toward the defence.
@@truethat774 I saw someone comment, that someone (brother or father) the Judge is related to, represented one of the Alberts in a hit and run, drunk driving case that killed someone and he only got 6 months behind bars for it. I also read something about a beach house she rents them or sold to that family. This whole thing is just so corrupt!
The judge is disgusted. Because the defense has no merit and ridiculous! This isn't the 1960s. Some people are clueless! Cops are not framing a murder scene! Just wait till you see all the evidence! Especially when they show that her vehicle was traveling 60 ft in reverse at over 20 miles an hour. And John's hair was found in the tail lights. She's a psycho cop killer.
@PEBBLEZ21 you have no idea what you are talking about. He has backed every single one of them into a corner, as they are all lying. The judge is just assisting in the prosecutorial misconduct.
SNAP!! Defense is destroying this EMT witness! I could tell he was lying on direct, and now the cross is so much fun to watch! Lier, lier, pants on fire! 😂
I'm sorry, but when the defense has an opportunity to redirect the witness, how is this judge getting allowed to say "a couple questions." Unacceptable! And serious question- if an attorney objects, don't they have to give the reason as to why they are objecting the question?
I thought the same thing! Why do they not have to give a reason for the objection…..So weird! I have watched hundreds of trials and this is the first trial that I have watched where that has happened. 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
There’s a federal investigation into the handling of this case. Yet the prosecution is steaming ahead at full speed ! The judge is upset that the defense got “ outsiders” involved into their members only club
She’s not even trying to hide it at this point, lol. She literally sustained an objection from Lally before he even said “objection” lol I’ve never seen that.
If John O'Keefe's body had been in that location for 5.5 hours, it would not have been a viable cardiac arrest. He would have been dead for hours. It was already below freezing at midnight, and the temperature steadily declined thereafter. He had no coat, and one foot was uncovered. He would have suffered a fatal arrythmia within the first hour of laying out there in the cold. I don't know what happened. But I don't think his head broke the taillight on a car that never left the roadway. His body was 12 feet into the yard. No wonder the manner of death was ruled undetermined.
If I were one of these first responders and Karen had told me "I hit him!" my first question would be,"How?" Like with your fist, a bat, a car? Yet nobody asked that? Seems suspicious af.
What’s really suspicious is that people think 6 first responders are all lying for someone they don’t even know in the house or on the lawn .. the whole conspiracy theory is just so far fetched
My guess is the other girls that were on the scene told her she hit him and she was asking did I hit him they were trying to make her believe she did it and she was upset and confused I don't think she said she hit him
The first witness said he asked “what, with your fist? Did you kick him?” and didn’t get a different response b/c Read was hysterical. I’m not sure what to make of it, myself. They don’t seem to have thought she meant “I killed him”.
Did everyone catch that Flementi said that Okeefe was laying in the snow with about 4 inch "up to his ribs" BUT NO SNOW ON TOP OF HIM. So he couldn't have been hit by Karen and lay in the snow since before midnight or the snow would have been on top of his body. He was brought outside by the Alberts after a fight inside the house that was NEVER SEARCHED.
Karen is clearly visible in the video when the EMTs get there. I don’t see anybody sitting there talking to her for over a minute. This is massive corruption. So easy to say I forgot or I don’t know obviously it’s a traumatic situation but how do they have such selective memory and can’t identify the woman he was talking to for a minute that’s so obviously Karen
They were kinda busy and the firefighter who asked her questions was in the middle of trying to save the poor guys life. The second Firefighter who asked questions arrived on a Fire Truck about the time they were putting him on the stretcher. Nobody was sitting anywhere in the middle of an emergency call during a blizzard.
It's because he made up the "I hit him" comment to get his 5 minutes of fame but he somewhat feels bad about it so he doesn't identify her directly but instead he says the woman with the blood on her face. He doesn't write anywhere in a report that she said that and when interviewed the next day by the detective he again doesn't say she said that only until it's time to go in front of the grand jury does he say sh said "I hit him, I hit him"
The judge starts out telling the jury that about it being up to them to decide what they hear on the video!! Wow!! Not to mention, she wouldn't allow defense to play it again. She also didn't want jury to see a photo defense held up last time. Don't they get to see and watch it all during deliberation??
Or, as was the case with the lead paramedic, he determined it was a vehicle that had hit him - while only moments before, he’s asking what she hit him with but reports this to no hospital personnel. 🤦♀️ There should be no trial!
I think they are doing that intentionally to try and paint her as acting crazy. It’s awfully suspect that Jen McCabe is so calm. She says John is her friend, yet there is no emotion from her. She also tells 911 “there is a guy in the snow”. Just “a guy”. Karen is reacting how anyone would normally react and she was the only one trying to do CPR.
@@MyMomo17. Not all of them, but several of them so far. Saraf clearly lied, as did Flematti, Nutall, and McLaughlin. Saraf and Flematti were openly exposed for their lies. It’s not even debatable. And Katie McLaughlin will be exposed for hers on cross examination tomorrrow.
Who'd be better at getting a body from inside a house to the front of his lawn w/o being noticed than Brian Albert, a Boston PD surveillance expert? Who better to know how police would investigate a dead body on someone’s property? He knew he could use his family connections w/ the Canton & State Police to keep them from asking him probing questions, taking pictures of his face/hands, and doing the same for his nephew Colin. He knew police would normally search his house, which is likely why he made phone calls that night - to make sure it never happened. He could prove us all wrong by handing over his phone, but he won’t do that.
the Judge's brother defended Chris Albert, brother of the homeowner in this case, when he was convicted on vehicular manslaughter charges a number of years ago
The judge has been confirmed to be a friend of the Alberts and McCabes, the true murderers in this case. She was supposed to be off this case long ago due to the standard rotation of judges, but she outright refused to rotate and refused to recuse herself given these well-known personal relationships as well, despite a request to recuse from the defense.
@@laboiteauxavenueand apparently the Defence attempted to get her dismissed from this case, because of this conflict, which she wasn’t all too pleased with !!!
@@laboiteauxavenue This was 30 years ago. It was either Beverly Cannone’s father or brother who represented Chris Albert. And he received 6 months in jail for killing someone while driving drunk in a hit-and-run on the highway. Normal people would have gotten 8-10 years. He got 6 months because of his family connections to law enforcement.
Not going to happen since they didn’t go into the house, interview suspects, and they destroyed evidence. That should make reasonable doubt a no-brainer.
@@SandyKnauerMorgan nope. Because seeing all the evidence is also a potential lack of evidence or corrupted evidence. All evidence is evidence. That’s why we have trials in a court and not by UA-cam.
So far, after day 3, I am leaning towards the defence, but it’s hard to know what evidence will come in the future. But right now the defence in my opinion is doing a better job and the prosecution has proved nothing.
That’s because after all this time, the prosecutors are putting all their eggs in the basket of “I hit him”. They have no other evidence that Karen is guilty. They can’t even use the broken taillight pieces, because it was proven that more had been placed at the scene after the body was removed. The wild egos these people have is shocking, they thought they would get away with murder because they have a judge friend and state trooper friend. I can’t wait to watch the actual trial against the real killer(s), and see how many of them will go down.
On cross when he is asked if he was in the ambulance at that point and he responded within don't recall.... I would have told him with your notes and according to prior testimony you stated you were in the ambulance at that specific time.
The judge is disgusted. Because the defense has no merit and ridiculous! This isn't the 1960s. Some people are clueless! Cops are not framing a murder scene! Just wait till you see all the evidence! Especially when they show that her vehicle was traveling 60 ft in reverse at over 20 miles an hour. And John's hair was found in the tail lights. She's a psycho cop killer.
The judge is not interested in the truth..she's obviously irritated by the defense. She does the objections for the Prosecutor & when he does he doesn't give grounds
It seems like the judge is exasperated and that her patience are being tested. when Lally objects -they don’t have to say what upon what grounds they are objecting? And it’s always sustained….
why oh why is the victims family seated directly beside/behind the defendant... not to mention they make facial expressions etc. that they should not be doing
The judge is disgusted. Because the defense has no merit and ridiculous! This isn't the 1960s. Some people are clueless! Cops are not framing a murder scene! Just wait till you see all the evidence! Especially when they show that her vehicle was traveling 60 ft in reverse at over 20 miles an hour. And John's hair was found in the tail lights. She's a psycho cop killer.
@agent99937Before the trial started, the judge told the attorneys that she will not ask for grounds. Just the objection and whether it is sustained or overruled. She said that’s how she does it in her court.
@@heidibetweenjewelryandjob7811, thank you for explaining because it seems counterintuitive of appropriate courtroom decorum. Especially, perhaps, if she's convicted, and there is an appeal.
The judge just told the paramedic, dont guess, you need to be sure, then he rewords it to "I'd estimate" she let estimate slide, but isnt estimate another word for guess? She needs to get off the bench
The judge is disgusted. Because the defense has no merit and ridiculous! This isn't the 1960s. Some people are clueless! Cops are not framing a murder scene! Just wait till you see all the evidence! Especially when they show that her vehicle was traveling 60 ft in reverse at over 20 miles an hour. And John's hair was found in the tail lights. She's a psycho cop killer.
The judge is disgusted. Because the defense has no merit and ridiculous! This isn't the 1960s. Some people are clueless! Cops are not framing a murder scene! Just wait till you see all the evidence! Especially when they show that her vehicle was traveling 60 ft in reverse at over 20 miles an hour. And John's hair was found in the tail lights. She's a psycho cop killer.
This judge is conducting herself very unprofessional. Her annoyed and irritated attitude towards the defense is unmistakable. It seems like she doesn’t like it when the defense is doing a way better job than the commonwealth and is trying to influence the jury with her sighs, interruption and comments like “I give him that one” (when she overruled an object of the prosecution). I hope the jury sees it as unprofessional behavior as well.
I’m glad she is showing the world how Biased, Unprofessional and Disrespectful she is on the bench. She needs to be removed and all of her cases need to be investigated for blatant bias.
There is no way that Karen did this. First off the dispatch address- the whole dept knows who lives there and was having a cop fest that night. The homeowner cop hides in his house to cover evidence and fight marks he endured and to not have his house searched. In first responder firefighter training you are taught to Document all statements especially incriminating statements and police should have been notified. But not all there said Karen was screaming “ I did it”. This is a disgusting injustice to John and Karen and their families.
@@stevenprice6957. Which McAlbert are you? The only people still saying Karen is guilty at this point are the Alberts, McCabes, and their townie friends.
@@IronEaglet-ru8zbNo I’m from another country. I just laugh at the Americans and their conspiracy theories. They have them from breakfast. She admitted to hitting him. She changed her story multiple times. I’ll ask you this. If you are Karen Read and you so called left your partner at a house then hours later find him on the snow dead or possibly dead, are you going to say I hit him I hit him or are you going to say, wtf happened here. Who did this. Let’s get in real world here. Seriously, that alone shows her guilt. Then are you going to tell the family I’m not going to see you ever again. You spend 15 mins at the house, you take your father upstairs for a private convo then you waltz out with a bag of goodies. Common sense tells me she’s guilty. No 15 people including cops are going to bash a bloke and leave him to die in their front lawn. Impossible. The defence have made a media circus out of this putting out false information. They actually shouldn’t be allowed but somehow it’s allowed over there. Then you get a media frenzy and false information put out. What amazes me is innocent people go to jail and the ones that are guilty get let off. So even though she is a drunken jealous psychopath that left her man to freeze to death after she ploughed him, she is most likely to get let off. She’s deadly and dangerous.
The judge is disgusted. Because the defense has no merit and ridiculous! This isn't the 1960s. Some people are clueless! Cops are not framing a murder scene! Just wait till you see all the evidence! Especially when they show that her vehicle was traveling 60 ft in reverse at over 20 miles an hour. And John's hair was found in the tail lights. She's a psycho cop killer.
I wanna say to everyone constantly saying "Karen is a nobody why would they want to frame her?" It doesn't matter if she's a nobody or not. Not everyone that gets framed is framed because they are somebody... She was in the right place at the wrong time. She is a scapegoat for the real murders. It happens all the time. Someone just happens to be there, they are the perfect person to pin it on to get away with their own crimes. In fact, being the girlfriend of the victim only helps because the first suspects are almost always those closest to the victim.
Exactly. The fact that she’s “a nobody” only makes it easier for them to do it. 💯
Exactly.
I’m so confused. Did you not hear the two emt’s say she hit him over and over again. Oh wait. They are in on it too
@@ringring6618 Apparently. Along with the female lying furefighter who barely knows Caitlin Alpirt until shes shown pics of her partying with her arm around Caitlin. Ths is the most egregious case f corruption Ive ever seen. And when Read is found not guilty or overturned on appeal, she should sue Proctor, the Troopers, the Fire Dept and anyone else involved in this bullchit and the most unprofessional Judge Ive ever seen. Reminiscent of the Judge in the movie The Verdict.
@@ringring6618 Yes, yes they are. They are all friends with the Alberts. They also happen to be the ONLY ones that heard her say it??
Also, why did the snow plow driver say that he saw NO body outside at around 2:45-3AM, which was around the same time that McCabe googled how long it takes to die in the cold. The snow plow driver did several passes until 6 am and John was not out there at any point.
McCabe, who was with her during that time stated, initially to the Grand Jury, that Read ASKED the question, "Did I hit him?" but after the paramedic's BS lies changed her story to Read saying, "I hit him." So you tell me. Yes, they are in on it.
The judge is so inappropriate.
Signing like she’s annoyed or bored… directing and guiding the witness and cutting the defense attorney off… incredibly unprofessional. I hope the jury isn’t taking cues from her.
This defense is on fire.
Absolutely! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yessss!!!
Witness Katie McLaughlin (a Canton Firefighter/Paramedic) graduated from Canton High w/ Caitlin Albert in 2014. When the Defense brought up photos of McLaughlin socializing & being in the same friend group w/ Caitlin Albert, Lally objected to the jury seeing those photos. Judge Cannone sustained.
This jury is being deprived of any knowledge & evidence of the many ways in which the Alberts had their hands in this investigation. *Kevin Albert, Brian Albert's brother, arranged Katie McLaughlin's interview* w/ MSP Trooper Proctor _AFTER_ Canton PD was expelled & Massachusetts State Police was assigned to investigate instead (due to a _conflict of interest_ with Kevin & Brian's relationship). Kevin was conflicted out & then spoke to the witness - which could be called "witness tampering!"
This is the _ONLY_ witness who claims to have heard Karen say she hit John, and she happens to be biased - yey the judge doesn't want the jury to know that! In fact, she prevented them from knowing it, and they must instead infer the truth solely from Jackson's unanswered questions of McLaughlin as to who arranged her police interview. This is a violation of Karen Read's rights & prohibitive of a fair trial.
A man was found deceased on Brian Albert's lawn, and NOBODY in his home at the time was ever investigated. The home was never SEARCHED. Trooper Proctor's text messages to friends revealed that the Alberts _wouldn't be investigated_ because Brian was "a Boston cop." The corruption has been *_displayed on a silver platter_*
I can’t wait for the FBI to finish their investigation and get all these lying people and arrest the actual murders of Officer John O’Keefe.
Such a blatant cover up. It’s pretty insane that this even made it to trial.
she not the only one the male lead paramedic heard it too
The simple fact that a first responder was found unconscious in the front yard of another first responder and his wife never bothered to get her husband to come outside to respond while waiting on an ambulance I take scream volumes to the jury
@@jaybee5466 I agree that is uncommon but not unheard of
Judges are supposed to be unbiased.
Once she said she heard her say she hit him, she started stuttering and having trouble completing sentences. She looks uncomfortable, eyes jumping around. Behavior changed right after she said it. Signs of dishonesty.
This trial is painful to watch due to the fact that the judge is so obviously biased against the defense
The judge is disgusted. Because the defense has no merit and ridiculous! This isn't the 1960s. Some people are clueless! Cops are not framing a murder scene! Just wait till you see all the evidence! Especially when they show that her vehicle was traveling 60 ft in reverse at over 20 miles an hour. And John's hair was found in the tail lights. She's a psycho cop killer.
She’s in on it
Shes friends with the homeowner of the house where he was murdered on. The injuries aren't consistent with being hit by a car they're from a dog the homeowner had and sold a week or two later. Then they sold the house! She shouldn't even be the judge for this.
With any luck this jury will see that.
This Judge is something else!!🤨
Why is this judge sighing shes unprofessional. She needs to be off this case
The judge is disgusted. Because the defense has no merit and ridiculous! This isn't the 1960s. Some people are clueless! Cops are not framing a murder scene! Just wait till you see all the evidence! Especially when they show that her vehicle was traveling 60 ft in reverse at over 20 miles an hour. And John's hair was found in the tail lights. She's a psycho cop killer.
Defense tried because auntie bevs beach house was sold to the Alberts. The Albert’s even said auntie Bev was on their side.
Really it's out of line
Judge has ties to the Albert family..she should not be on this case!!
@@Karen-sd1jn😂
I do not like this judge...unprofessional, biased, rude, snippy.....🙄
And noting there is a blizzard going on outside the ambulance is not allowed. Is there going to be a petition to debench this so called Judge?
Agree
Somebody PLEASE tell this judge to STOP HER SIGHING!!! How rude and inappropriate!!
I hope there is a mistrial!
She needs a breathing treatment
She is ridiculous. Must be an ex-lover of the defense counsel.
I don't think there's going to be a mistrial because the judge sighed.
I was just about to make the same comment apart from the mistrial part because sighing will not cause a mistrial, however she seems to be quite bias in favor of the State, so depending on how this all goes, her bias ways may cause a mistrial.
Maybe she has breathing problems? Why so judgemental to the judge
Doesn’t it say something that the judge will sustain almost every objection from the prosecution, however when she can’t sustain the objection, she says “I’ll let him have it” instead of OVER-RULED. She has yet to use the words OVER-RULED!
That's on purpose
She is ridiculously unprofessional
I've never heard so many "sustained" objections by a judge. Most seemed like valid questions.
This judge is super biased
The rules of evidence guide the Judge’s decision on whether to overrule or sustain an objection.
You’ll probably start to hear ‘over-ruled’ when the defence says ‘objection’.
@@Mwabacnshe’s attempting to stop the 3rd party defense from coming up that’s my opinion.
@@FakeNewsNJ She ruled on that motion during the last hearing before trial (clearly citing the rule of evidence applicable)
What gets me is that the policeman in the house never came out and no one went in the house to investigate anything. Strange case, a real coverup.
It was still very dark out amidst a blizzard. By the time John was found and in the ambulance on the way to the hospital was a very short window of time. After the ambulance departed, the homeowners were awaken and LE went inside to interview them.
@TuesdayGazette What you just stated is absolutely 100% false
@@TruthNationUncensored It's 100% in the original report. lol
@@TuesdayGazette there was no blizzard, so let's start there with your factual errors.
@@TuesdayGazette LE Never set foot into the home of the police officer.
Not Once ! Not Ever…!Not the night John was found. Not the day after…not ever ! You’d think they’d be curious to see what he had to say considering the body was on his lawn. Maybe he saw or heard something ? Maybe there was a missing shoe in the home or blood of the victim ? And I don’t care what time of night it is…
If 6 police cars, a fire truck & ambulance are outside your home with the lights flashing you’re going to come out & inquire about what happened.
Another witness that doesn't recall conversations during calm interviews but remembers specific details during a traumatic event when he wants to.
I think the firehouse and the police station have been discussing and gossiping about this case and figuring out who to trust with the coverup and who is the “weak link” and what evidence is there? Etc etc …so all their testimony is faulty.
They all seem to suffer from some form of dementia . Or they had someone in their ear telling everyone to stick to this one storyline, that they heard
I hit him, I hit him , I hit him.
Didn’t Karen say.
“Did I hit him”?
@@kismetkatsu. Yes 100% !
Then talked with the Judge
She is disgusting, this trail is a train wreck, & it has only started ! 🤦♀️
Only remembers during direct. Didn’t even know who he was or IF he was inside the closed ambulance driving away!
he’s a LIAR!!!
Very strange that everyone has a very, very vague recollection of that day, but they all specifically remember Karen saying something and what she said, and they all remember the missing shoe.
Curious they ALL remember her saying the EXACT same thing during this testimony, yet ALL are different from grand jury or initial report.
@@roxdarmurray6634or they remember it clearly, but never put it in their reports. This case is really concerning.
why does the judge keep interrupting the defence?
Because she’s part of the cover up.
She has also said "I'll let him have it" twice so far as her response to objections by Lalley. She is a disgraceful judge. Sighing constantly and showing extreme bias toward the defence.
I’d really like transcripts of those side-bars that she calls to be realeased post-trial.
She’s Auntie Bev
The Judge needs to have coffee or an energy drink Ridiculous to hear all her dramatic breathing!!!
Auntie Bev needs to meet with the commission for judicial misconduct
She needs to be removed from the bench and have each of the cases she presided over reopened and investigated for blatant bias!
Worst. Judge. Ever!! Wonder how she is tied to the “family.”
I saw a comment that said the family that lives in the house he was found in front of call her “Auntie”. 😮
@@truethat774 I saw someone comment, that someone (brother or father) the Judge is related to, represented one of the Alberts in a hit and run, drunk driving case that killed someone and he only got 6 months behind bars for it. I also read something about a beach house she rents them or sold to that family. This whole thing is just so corrupt!
This judge is so snooty and RUDE!
The judge is disgusted. Because the defense has no merit and ridiculous! This isn't the 1960s. Some people are clueless! Cops are not framing a murder scene! Just wait till you see all the evidence! Especially when they show that her vehicle was traveling 60 ft in reverse at over 20 miles an hour. And John's hair was found in the tail lights. She's a psycho cop killer.
& BIASED!!!
She is HORRIBLE! Unprofessional, disrespectful, and PROFOUNDLY BIASED!
The EMTs and having to ask them in 10 different ways to get an answer speaks volumes. FreeKaren
What are you hearing..how about the defense asks a questions 20 different ways after they already answered. Defense badgers.
@@SAMMYBAMBAM24 I SAID what I heard. And clearly I’m not the only one…lol
It’s true every time the judge coughs or huffs the prosecutor will call an objection 🤔
I noticed the same thing! Busted!
This is the first trial I have watched where the defense seems competent
This defense attorney is destroying the prosecutor.
Jackson is beating dead horses and getting NO WHERE..the prosecutor is doing things procedurally. Why do you think the judge keeps calling side bar…
@PEBBLEZ21 you have no idea what you are talking about. He has backed every single one of them into a corner, as they are all lying. The judge is just assisting in the prosecutorial misconduct.
@@markhenry15read above statement..above mine..he uses trickery and badgering. He’s made himself look bad.
And who are you to say someone doesn’t know what they’re talking about?
@@markhenry15exactly
This judge is out of control with these sighs...ridiculous
SNAP!! Defense is destroying this EMT witness! I could tell he was lying on direct, and now the cross is so much fun to watch! Lier, lier, pants on fire! 😂
Only 4 hours. What a joke of a judge that can't even do a full day's work.
She’s huffy and sharp in this little bit of time. Imagine her on a full day.
They have hearings in the afternoon or morning not in view of the jury .
You don't know what was on the schedule for the other attorney. Thinks may have been schedule before trial was scheduled
Second half of the day they went out to view the crime scene
@@GaryCoogan-fz8hl they going crime scene friday
I'm sorry, but when the defense has an opportunity to redirect the witness, how is this judge getting allowed to say "a couple questions." Unacceptable!
And serious question- if an attorney objects, don't they have to give the reason as to why they are objecting the question?
I thought the same thing! Why do they not have to give a reason for the objection…..So weird! I have watched hundreds of trials and this is the first trial that I have watched where that has happened. 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
I believe it was established before trial that they didn't have to say. I guess it's obvious to them so they already know 🤷♀️
I think we all feel the same way about this judge
100%
There’s a federal investigation into the handling of this case.
Yet the prosecution is steaming ahead at full speed !
The judge is upset that the defense got “ outsiders” involved into their members only club
She’s not even trying to hide it at this point, lol. She literally sustained an objection from Lally before he even said “objection” lol I’ve never seen that.
If John O'Keefe's body had been in that location for 5.5 hours, it would not have been a viable cardiac arrest. He would have been dead for hours. It was already below freezing at midnight, and the temperature steadily declined thereafter. He had no coat, and one foot was uncovered. He would have suffered a fatal arrythmia within the first hour of laying out there in the cold. I don't know what happened. But I don't think his head broke the taillight on a car that never left the roadway. His body was 12 feet into the yard. No wonder the manner of death was ruled undetermined.
Convient breaks from the judge
Is anyone being held for lying under oath? There were already severel people in this situation. How is this possible??
If I were one of these first responders and Karen had told me "I hit him!" my first question would be,"How?" Like with your fist, a bat, a car? Yet nobody asked that? Seems suspicious af.
Yup!
Wonder why the defense doesn’t ask them that….
What’s really suspicious is that people think 6 first responders are all lying for someone they don’t even know in the house or on the lawn .. the whole conspiracy theory is just so far fetched
My guess is the other girls that were on the scene told her she hit him and she was asking did I hit him they were trying to make her believe she did it and she was upset and confused I don't think she said she hit him
The first witness said he asked “what, with your fist? Did you kick him?” and didn’t get a different response b/c Read was hysterical.
I’m not sure what to make of it, myself. They don’t seem to have thought she meant “I killed him”.
Did everyone catch that Flementi said that Okeefe was laying in the snow with about 4 inch "up to his ribs" BUT NO SNOW ON TOP OF HIM. So he couldn't have been hit by Karen and lay in the snow since before midnight or the snow would have been on top of his body. He was brought outside by the Alberts after a fight inside the house that was NEVER SEARCHED.
Exactly
Aunt Bev still interrupting the defense with unsolicited sidebars I see 🙄🙄🙄
Karen is clearly visible in the video when the EMTs get there. I don’t see anybody sitting there talking to her for over a minute. This is massive corruption. So easy to say I forgot or I don’t know obviously it’s a traumatic situation but how do they have such selective memory and can’t identify the woman he was talking to for a minute that’s so obviously Karen
They were kinda busy and the firefighter who asked her questions was in the middle of trying to save the poor guys life. The second Firefighter who asked questions arrived on a Fire Truck about the time they were putting him on the stretcher. Nobody was sitting anywhere in the middle of an emergency call during a blizzard.
It's because he made up the "I hit him" comment to get his 5 minutes of fame but he somewhat feels bad about it so he doesn't identify her directly but instead he says the woman with the blood on her face. He doesn't write anywhere in a report that she said that and when interviewed the next day by the detective he again doesn't say she said that only until it's time to go in front of the grand jury does he say sh said "I hit him, I hit him"
And they work in a profession that is their job to remember details
Its as if the judge is bored to death and doesnt enjoy her job.
Why didn’t they go into the house that night?
Cross examination by Alan Jackson is really solid.
The judge’s tone when calling counsel to sidebar comes across as scolding first graders to go to the corner.
Seriously!!!😡😡
And her sing song tone with the Jurors like the are in Kindergarten. Ok Boys and Girls, let’s remember the rules and we are going to take recess now 😂
@@KTD1988 🤣
The judge starts out telling the jury that about it being up to them to decide what they hear on the video!! Wow!! Not to mention, she wouldn't allow defense to play it again. She also didn't want jury to see a photo defense held up last time. Don't they get to see and watch it all during deliberation??
Interesting how she was running around repeating things multiple times and they all heard something different.
Or, as was the case with the lead paramedic, he determined it was a vehicle that had hit him - while only moments before, he’s asking what she hit him with but reports this to no hospital personnel. 🤦♀️
There should be no trial!
😂
“I hit him” by four different witnesses so far sounds very consistent.
@sythmc8600 you should pay more attention. He said he did relay that information to hospital personnel
@@TuesdayGazette how many of them put it in any report, any where and exactly when. And was JO wearing a puffer jacket as stated or not?
This judge is on the take and needs to be investigated and disbarred.
Couldn’t have said it better!
These people act like it's uncommon to be hysterical if you've found someone you love dead. What a joke!
I think they are doing that intentionally to try and paint her as acting crazy. It’s awfully suspect that Jen McCabe is so calm. She says John is her friend, yet there is no emotion from her. She also tells 911 “there is a guy in the snow”. Just “a guy”. Karen is reacting how anyone would normally react and she was the only one trying to do CPR.
Lots of purgery in this trial enabled by a seemingly biased judge. Shame on Boston. 😢😢😢
Ridiculous to think every EMT every cop is lying. You sound biased.
Technically this isn’t Boston
@@MyMomo17. Not all of them, but several of them so far. Saraf clearly lied, as did Flematti, Nutall, and McLaughlin. Saraf and Flematti were openly exposed for their lies. It’s not even debatable. And Katie McLaughlin will be exposed for hers on cross examination tomorrrow.
Do you mean perjury? So far a Lot of the “testimony” from the witnesses is squirrelly.
@@Tackleboxandfishingpoles It’s way beyond squirrelly. It’s calculated, bold-faced lies orchestrated by Michael Proctor and a huge web of corruption.
Who'd be better at getting a body from inside a house to the front of his lawn w/o being noticed than Brian Albert, a Boston PD surveillance expert? Who better to know how police would investigate a dead body on someone’s property?
He knew he could use his family connections w/ the Canton & State Police to keep them from asking him probing questions, taking pictures of his face/hands, and doing the same for his nephew Colin. He knew police would normally search his house, which is likely why he made phone calls that night - to make sure it never happened. He could prove us all wrong by handing over his phone, but he won’t do that.
Exactly
This judge is biased.
2:07:00. Do u see this person? Objectction…. Sustained
It’s sickening to keep hearing the judge sigh, grunt and groan.
The only honest paramedic was the young man who the lawyer referred to as "junior officer".
I think Matt Kelly and Walsh were both honest. The rest lied.
The judge is giving the prosecution clues to object. She literally made a throat clearing noise and the prosecutor then objects so she sustains it.
I WISH I could mute the Judge audio. Seriously!
Id be checking the judges relationship to the house,other cops,investigators, she is showing her irritation to karen and her defense team........
Someone referred to her as 'Aunt Bev'... It seems she knows the "homeowner" with the German Shepard, Chloe.
the Judge's brother defended Chris Albert, brother of the homeowner in this case, when he was convicted on vehicular manslaughter charges a number of years ago
The judge has been confirmed to be a friend of the Alberts and McCabes, the true murderers in this case. She was supposed to be off this case long ago due to the standard rotation of judges, but she outright refused to rotate and refused to recuse herself given these well-known personal relationships as well, despite a request to recuse from the defense.
@@laboiteauxavenueand apparently the Defence attempted to get her dismissed from this case, because of this conflict, which she wasn’t all too pleased with !!!
@@laboiteauxavenue This was 30 years ago. It was either Beverly Cannone’s father or brother who represented Chris Albert. And he received 6 months in jail for killing someone while driving drunk in a hit-and-run on the highway. Normal people would have gotten 8-10 years. He got 6 months because of his family connections to law enforcement.
I am waiting for all the evidence before i make a judgment.
It might be awhile at this rate
Exactly. Welcome to the 1% of rational people who have been watching this trial.
Not going to happen since they didn’t go into the house, interview suspects, and they destroyed evidence. That should make reasonable doubt a no-brainer.
@@SandyKnauerMorgan nope. Because seeing all the evidence is also a potential lack of evidence or corrupted evidence. All evidence is evidence. That’s why we have trials in a court and not by UA-cam.
None so far!
So far, after day 3, I am leaning towards the defence, but it’s hard to know what evidence will come in the future. But right now the defence in my opinion is doing a better job and the prosecution has proved nothing.
Prosecutors only proved they’re a bunch of liars.
That’s because after all this time, the prosecutors are putting all their eggs in the basket of “I hit him”. They have no other evidence that Karen is guilty. They can’t even use the broken taillight pieces, because it was proven that more had been placed at the scene after the body was removed. The wild egos these people have is shocking, they thought they would get away with murder because they have a judge friend and state trooper friend. I can’t wait to watch the actual trial against the real killer(s), and see how many of them will go down.
@@Vinny_2157that will never happen. The system is too corrupt.
Even if she said she hit him, she also phrased it as a question "Did I hit him?", therefore, both statements cancel each other out.
Maybe they were gaslighting her and trying to convince her that she hit him. So could be she said it as a question “ I hit him??”
On cross when he is asked if he was in the ambulance at that point and he responded within don't recall.... I would have told him with your notes and according to prior testimony you stated you were in the ambulance at that specific time.
This is crazy. The judge is totally biased
The judge is disgusted. Because the defense has no merit and ridiculous! This isn't the 1960s. Some people are clueless! Cops are not framing a murder scene! Just wait till you see all the evidence! Especially when they show that her vehicle was traveling 60 ft in reverse at over 20 miles an hour. And John's hair was found in the tail lights. She's a psycho cop killer.
This type of “judge” would have been extremely helpful for Darrell Brooks.
The only time you’ll hear aunt Bev say ‘over-ruled’ is when the defence says ‘objection’. On another note, alot of Pinocchio’s on the witness stand.
A Lot of the “testimony” from the witnesses is squirrelly.
"I DON"T RECALL" is a paid for response...
The Judge’s BIAS needs to go along with her dramatic sighing… it’s painful to watch her sweet to prosecutor & nasty to defense…
This judge is so unprofessional. Sighing and sounding bored and irritable.
The victim's family sure are throwing some serious shade to defendants family. Very awkward when they're all seated so closely
The judge is not interested in the truth..she's obviously irritated by the defense. She does the objections for the Prosecutor & when he does he doesn't give grounds
It seems like the judge is exasperated and that her patience are being tested. when Lally objects -they don’t have to say what upon what grounds they are objecting? And it’s always sustained….
why oh why is the victims family seated directly beside/behind the defendant... not to mention they make facial expressions etc. that they should not be doing
Judge seems very biased against Karen Read
What is that judge doing😂 why all the hard breathing 😳
Work gets in the way of her personal life. Every time she sighs she's imagining being slumped on the couch with chocolate and Netflix.
The judge is disgusted. Because the defense has no merit and ridiculous! This isn't the 1960s. Some people are clueless! Cops are not framing a murder scene! Just wait till you see all the evidence! Especially when they show that her vehicle was traveling 60 ft in reverse at over 20 miles an hour. And John's hair was found in the tail lights. She's a psycho cop killer.
Hemorrhoids
This judge should recuse herself! To me all the sighing is just crazy!
I read that they tried to get her off this case because of her connections to people involved etc. but she refused to recuse herself!
Interesting when the state objects they don’t state what grounds there are for their objection. The judge never asks either.
@agent99937Before the trial started, the judge told the attorneys that she will not ask for grounds. Just the objection and whether it is sustained or overruled. She said that’s how she does it in her court.
@@heidibetweenjewelryandjob7811, thank you for explaining because it seems counterintuitive of appropriate courtroom decorum. Especially, perhaps, if she's convicted, and there is an appeal.
@@MomOfDoodles This is actually how it is supposed to go. The speaking objections in other courts are not always allowed.
The judge just told the paramedic, dont guess, you need to be sure, then he rewords it to "I'd estimate" she let estimate slide, but isnt estimate another word for guess? She needs to get off the bench
Prosecution: “Objection”. Judge: “Sustained”!! Massachusetts kangaroo court system! But this is what we have allowed!!
This is a grotesque framing of an innocent woman by some of the lowest people in a courtroom lying nonstop.
Grounds for a miss trial based on Judges bias!!!!
Everyone is unhappy with the Judge.
The judge is disgusted. Because the defense has no merit and ridiculous! This isn't the 1960s. Some people are clueless! Cops are not framing a murder scene! Just wait till you see all the evidence! Especially when they show that her vehicle was traveling 60 ft in reverse at over 20 miles an hour. And John's hair was found in the tail lights. She's a psycho cop killer.
The videos show he never spoke to her.
He didn’t hear her say anything! Total lier!
The judge needs to be told to back up off the mic. For days all I’ve heard is her breathing as loud as the testimony being given
How did both his eyes get swollen shut?
Aren't they supposed to show evidence In a trial - I've heard nothing
The judge is disgusted. Because the defense has no merit and ridiculous! This isn't the 1960s. Some people are clueless! Cops are not framing a murder scene! Just wait till you see all the evidence! Especially when they show that her vehicle was traveling 60 ft in reverse at over 20 miles an hour. And John's hair was found in the tail lights. She's a psycho cop killer.
This is unbelievable 😳
Why the half days the no court days?
Because the judge sucks
Shout out to the first responders. Thank you!
The first responders were absolute trash in this case. What are you talking about
This judge is conducting herself very unprofessional. Her annoyed and irritated attitude towards the defense is unmistakable. It seems like she doesn’t like it when the defense is doing a way better job than the commonwealth and is trying to influence the jury with her sighs, interruption and comments like “I give him that one” (when she overruled an object of the prosecution).
I hope the jury sees it as unprofessional behavior as well.
What if anything is your name? What if anything do you do as a career? What if anything is your favorite color? 😂
essentially its sort of purple
Objection!
Judge: *sigh* SUSTAINED!
😅
Lieutenant, lieutenant, and lieutenant.
I don’t recall!
Hear ye, Hear ye!
The judge needs to mute her mic. All the sighs are annoying
I’m glad she is showing the world how Biased, Unprofessional and Disrespectful she is on the bench. She needs to be removed and all of her cases need to be investigated for blatant bias.
Were they all instructed to call him MISTER instead of OFFICER, yet they are called by titles? Is this common?
Idk but all LE, FD or anyone else is not permitted to come to court in uniform.
There is no way that Karen did this. First off the dispatch address- the whole dept knows who lives there and was having a cop fest that night. The homeowner cop hides in his house to cover evidence and fight marks he endured and to not have his house searched. In first responder firefighter training you are taught to Document all statements especially incriminating statements and police should have been notified. But not all there said Karen was screaming “ I did it”. This is a disgusting injustice to John and Karen and their families.
Inn no think there’s every way she did this. I’m certain she did. She admitted it then changed her story and more then once. She’s a psycho
@@stevenprice6957. Which McAlbert are you? The only people still saying Karen is guilty at this point are the Alberts, McCabes, and their townie friends.
@@IronEaglet-ru8zbNo I’m from another country. I just laugh at the Americans and their conspiracy theories. They have them from breakfast. She admitted to hitting him. She changed her story multiple times. I’ll ask you this. If you are Karen Read and you so called left your partner at a house then hours later find him on the snow dead or possibly dead, are you going to say I hit him I hit him or are you going to say, wtf happened here. Who did this. Let’s get in real world here. Seriously, that alone shows her guilt. Then are you going to tell the family I’m not going to see you ever again. You spend 15 mins at the house, you take your father upstairs for a private convo then you waltz out with a bag of goodies. Common sense tells me she’s guilty. No 15 people including cops are going to bash a bloke and leave him to die in their front lawn. Impossible. The defence have made a media circus out of this putting out false information. They actually shouldn’t be allowed but somehow it’s allowed over there. Then you get a media frenzy and false information put out. What amazes me is innocent people go to jail and the ones that are guilty get let off. So even though she is a drunken jealous psychopath that left her man to freeze to death after she ploughed him, she is most likely to get let off. She’s deadly and dangerous.
Not to mention the suddenly “rehoused” beloved pet!
The judge is disgusted. Because the defense has no merit and ridiculous! This isn't the 1960s. Some people are clueless! Cops are not framing a murder scene! Just wait till you see all the evidence! Especially when they show that her vehicle was traveling 60 ft in reverse at over 20 miles an hour. And John's hair was found in the tail lights. She's a psycho cop killer.
Judge sounds like Darth Vader
How many first responders do we need to hear from??
How are there not cameras on a cop's house?
And a nice house , nice neighborhood
This is a total conspiracy 😮 it was only 2 years 3 months ago, and they all don't remember such important things 😮 all lying under oath ?
💯💯💯
Seems like everyone is lying in this case... to initially benefit the prosecution until the defense squeezes the facts out of the corrupt witnesses.
Wonder how much the witnesses were paid to cover up.
All the prosecution questions have nothing to do with the murder… more about the weather and how to get to the incident location, 🙄🙄🙄
Remove that horrible judge!!!!! Where do I sign? Biased to the 100th degree
Seriously this is my exact thought. This judge GOTTA GO I wonder how many Innocent ppl she had locked up
Report her! You wouldn’t want yourself or a loved one stuck with her! I’m not from the USA or else I would do it. She needs to go!
I wish that prosecutor would stop saying 'sort of' every 5th word. Weasel words.
Gross and ANNOYING 😡😡😡
Not seeing the prosecution submitting any evidence soo they took this to trial based on what?
friendly eye witness testimony and grand jury lies before that.
3:25:15 You can't remember ever driving in bad snow? You're in Massachusetts!
essentially the prosecutor is sort of a lawyer
Hahaha touché
The youngest and most inexperienced kid on staff has most morals and shows he’s going to be a great officer great job kid
I can’t believe the thoughtlessness in setting up the family seating arrangement. Her family should be where John’s family is and vice versa.
I was thinking this same thing! I wonder if it is so the jury has a straight view of the victims family.