ERIC BISCHOFF: "WWE is DOING *SO MUCH* BETTER WITHOUT VINCE McMAHON!"
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Eric Bischoff on how the WWE is flourishing without Vince McMahon in charge anymore.
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Would love to see Bischoff back with this current WWE
Vince needed to step down 15 years ago
Absolutely. At least.
Nope. In 98 during the war when he had the talent meeting an asked if the talent had any ideas. Look at all the wasted talent that came after.
No lol. Some of y’all are too stupid to function
@@georgekappos3222usually when people say this they start mentioning wrestlers that weren’t good at promos and whatnot
@thedogwoods5716 think back to deacon batista. If hhh hadn't stepped in an replaced jindrak, batista may never have been...... a lot of good talkers were wasted during that time too. Abraham Washington. (Granted he kinda fucked himself) vince still didn't know what to do with him. Armando estrada who should be brought back to replace Paul when the bloodline boots him. Lots of talkers. Lots of other big men, Matt Morgan who eventually learned to cut a promo. There was tons of wasted talent. My favorite would have been sean o'haire
I bet Eric enjoyed saying that line "WWE is doing so much better" 🤔
Also the first Saudi show to not feature either Roman Reigns or Brock Lesnar.
Vince started the Saudi thing not triple h
Vince always had his favorites at the top spot time and time again even if they didn't deserve it and it annoyed the fans watered down the product. He has been out of touch with the fans for decades. Now he's gone WWE can finally fix their watered down product.
Collateral damage of the Vince thing. Brock was cancelled too.
Vince's ego was simultaneously the best and worst thing for WWE during his tenure. Unfortunately for everyone, at a certain point it really just started getting in the way and affecting the product for the worse. He really should've stepped away from the day-to-day operations yesrs ago, and just let his team run the show, while he worked on making deals for the company. Unfortunately, his ego would never let him let go. He saw the WWE as HIS show, and he was gonna run it for as long as possible. I honestly believe that if the circumstances didn't end up being what they were, and essentially forcing his hand, Vince would've tried to keep running that company until the day he died.
how was he affecting the product for the worse ? they had record profits the last few years before the sales and all the biggest stars and storylines from wrestlemania were started by vince years ago like bloodline , cody , gunther , dominc , judgement day and logan . it is too early to tell how well the management is working .
@@antonycuff4512 A fair point but when you looked at the day to day operations of WWE you saw massive issues. Wrestlemania is still top ten most profitable sporting events in the U.S. but how often did you see consistent WWE events on an average Raw or Smackdown show tens of thousands of people at these arenas, which 20 years ago they did all the time. Viewership was at an all time low even with their own streaming service when Peacock bought the WWE Network they admitted that it had like 1.5 or 1.75 million subscribers 400 thousand weren't active, so if a Raw gets 2.5 million eyes on tv the total viewership is still under 4 million within a 24 to 48 hr window which is terrible. Despite these record numbers most of this is coming from the massive tv and streaming deals that are being done which giving they did the Netflix deal of several more billion dollars after Vince left strikes me Vince wasn't behind the billion dollar deals of the last few years more likely that would've been Nick Khan. So while Vince took WWE to new heights at a certain point over the last 10 to 15 years it seemed more, more that there were many other people that were now taking the company to bigger heights and Vince was hindering the company more than helping it. But those are my two cents.
@@donovanbradford8231 i don't know where you heard those wwe network numbers ? i heard aroun 10 mil at time of sale . peacock now has 34 mil with the wwe as their only big draw . nick khan couldn't have done anything without vince's approval . khan was vince's partner in crime when it came to grant . vince's business model and promotion style is what the ufc followed . so without him there would be no ufc or tko .
Conrad is 1 ramen noodle away from exploding
Immediately thought about Monty pythons the meaning of life lol
Vince McMahon should have retired once he bought WCW...everything after that was a slow decline.
The Warrior warned us....
They absolutely are, because they can be WRESTLING again!
I used to be a diehard fan of wrestling be it WWE, NWA or WCW then something happened in the 2010s or maybe earlier that my interest in pro wrestling started to diminish. Though I still kept tabs on my favorite wrestlers from the era of the 80s and 90s, for that reason I ended up attending WWE pay-per-view in my hometown Jeddah
Having attended the recent king and queen of the ring, pay-per-view event, to me it was a huge qualitative upgrade compared to what we had been experiencing for the last 15 years, thanks to Vince McMahon’s declining approach
Paul and his team have really improved sports entertainment to the extent that this was the first time I actually enjoyed even watching female wrestling matches. Though there is a lot more needed still it’s better than what wins was throwing out at us for the last 15 years at least
It is my wish that one day we get to enjoy the same amount of intense wrestling as we did back in the 80s and the 90s. The drama or the story is important but most important is the actual fight in the squared circle. We need hard hitting matches, whether they are for male or female wrestlers. We need an experience that keeps us stalking about these matches for years to come instead of forgetting about them as soon as the pay-per-view ends.
Last 2 Saudi shows were decent
Your insight Eric just exemplifies what a true legend you are.
Agreed with both. Vince has done great for the WWE, but he needed to go and had to for a while.
Nia has been outstanding since her return, and I was one of the critics. She proved me wrong!
it's sad to say but I agree with you about Vince as for Nia Jax I would love to see her San Francisco bound
Even his former enemy says the same thing that we fans have been saying for years now.
After 2014 I do think Vince lost his edge…
That's being generous, I'd argue before 2010 the product was struggling.
@@ajkobra1993 lol true
@@kingpeso4240now WWE has lost its "Edge" if you know what I mean..
Conrad really does see "both sides" bit to a nauseating level. Nia got the reputation because she earned the reputation. Now she's getting praise for doing what she should have been doing all along. Call me skeptical if you'd like, but I need a bigger sample size before I go pretending my biased just magically appeared one day.
Why hasn't dijak showed up on raw. Also Adam Pearce must have some big kuhunas talking to Bron breaker on his latest video post
Nia has been incredible this time round and she rightly deserved that moment and that title at SS.! Improve in the ring, the moment Naomi hit the hurricaneruna over the tops I was like holy sh** 😮Nia just took and ate that! Then when she came out after winning the tourment the entrance the look the promo everything was just she made it and her flowers are coming! Nia is her 😮💨
Outside of ratings, it’s doing better. Have you seen the degradation on Friday and Monday?!
i agree with easy e
Eazy E is dead how can you agree with him
First Saudi PLE of the PLE
The best part about Nia Jax was getting her finish over. I believe if that particular finish was used on ANYONE, that Nia would've killed them. Men included.
Vince should have retired back in 2010 when he had Super Cena bury Nexus at SummerSlam 2010. 2013 wasn't much better with The Authority storyline which was change the channel heat. Trying to recreate Monday Night Wars by having NXT compete with AEW, which was stupid then Vince kills NXT & then making NXT 2.0 even more unwatchable than Monday Night Raw was at the time. Those are 3 examples but there are so much examples of Vince losing it
NXT 2.0 is objectively better than black and gold. They are actually making stars that don’t flounder on the main roster
Yea I took a break for a few years around 2008. Product to me was all over the place especially with the failed resurrection of ecw. It was pretty obvious Vince wasn't building new stars and relying on John Cena way too much. Vince was already in his 60's around that time and to me for the demanding job that was running wwe for so long he needed to pass that off to someone younger and walk away.
yokozuna would pick and choose when he was gonna smash somebody with that finisher and when not too. Both ways looked excellent 👌🏾. She should ask Rakishi how to tighten it up cause she seems to just drop hard on everybody.
Conrad is the Yokozuna of podcasting.
God damn it, Conrad, please….. PLEASE……. Don’t get up
Too fat to.
hhh out there crowning people in the ring while vince was up there making people kiss his bare ass 😂
WCW 4 👉🏾
You can tell Vince was a headache, the morale looks so much better and guys have more freedom and the company improved big time in his absence. It was time for him to go.
Send Vince to jail.
Hopefully Nia didn't injure Lyra, but she doesn't exactly have the best track record. God knows why they brought her back.
Anyway it is better than Always Embarrassing Wrastling and ''Tiny The Clown''😂🤣
Fire Bayley
Eric Bischoff For President 2024
Now just get rid of Pritchard.
Vince went senile because he had to deal with Jericho and Moxley/Ambrose.
Vince was terrible for like 14 years but the new WWE is dogshit without the older talent. None of the younger guys can cut a promo and its almost completely devoid of humor.
Yeah it's still pretty garbage.
Nia Jaxx is still an unsafe worker.
The other thing with Nia winning over BeLair - there already seeds of Jax vs Jade down the line, my guess Nia will take Smackdown Women's championship and then, somewhere at Survivor Series lose it to Cargill, and then for your Mania program you can go with Jade Cargill vs Bianca Belair.
See, Tony Khan, this is what the real plan looks like: it's simple enough, it's reasonable, there is no random sh*t, there already alot of seeds for this to happen, and because it have more story involved, this program will make more money. 1 year of story right here.
In AEW: Nia wins the RAW title, Bilair get forgotten for 6 months, Rhea Ripley fight Jade Cargill the night she returns (because this is the "dream match") and don't give a sh*t about Dominic at all, and there probably Young Bucks shoot on Punk somewhere just because they want to.
saudi still jailing women, for no reason. wwe should not be there...sports washing enablers
Vince was never good for the WW(F)E. He brought in the absolute scummiest version of wrestling that has ever existed and is the sole reason that wrestling has become associated with trailer trash. The attitude era succeeded because of money and gimmicks, not because of storytelling or interesting plots or any of that. That's all McMahon has ever known how to do as a creative director, he has the creative chops of a wooden stool. Hurr durr ok so this week we're gonna have rock let out a one liner, then austin is gonna drink a beer, then mankind is gonna do something completely insane and hurt himself, then undertaker will come out in a coffin.
He took the dignified technical part of wrestling and ran it into the ground. Admittedly the technical stuff already had a foot in the grave but Vince took it out back and put a bullet in its head.
Regardless, it was massively popular
@@thedogwoods5716 It was more like that all the people who had suddenly became interested in wrestling because of the WCW had nowhere left to go as it was ran into the ground by the management during the merger.
Within a few years, most of that new crowd had also fallen off, and wrestling began its long decline. Went from a 6 nielson rating in 2000 to a 3 in 2006 to what, like barely a 1 today?
Yup everyone forgets the WCW saved wrestling. After 1988 the WWF was in a sharp decline and by the early 90s it was near flatlined. The WCW with the nWo revolutionized it. Vince is only counter was to put on a trashy TV show. Yay they had T&A and foul language! Sorry but it was garbage.
@@thedogwoods5716 Thanks to the WCW.
I disagree
Same
Vince made Eric take a stink face from Rikishi then fired Eric habahahabahba
Vince is the reason WWE sucked for 15 years
Hell no, that Gunther v Orton match ending was terrible!!! They'll turn on Trips soon, trust me.
Wcw would been better without you
Your wife is better with me
WWE needs the brilliant mind of Vince McMahon pal
No, they don’t. And also, it’s really creepy when you freaks defend the sexual predator.
Hell no they dont.
All signs point to that not being true
@@IRenegadEEEEE Elaborate.
@@backup368 the product is in the best state it has been in years. They just signed the biggest rights deal in the history of the company and they just had the largest most watched Mania of all time.
All without McMahon
No, Eric. No. I'd rather have Vince or I'd rather have him select a younger booker with a mind for character development and storytelling.
The King of the Ring is exactly what Bischoff made fun of AEW over last week: Just another pointless tournament.
In 2001, the KOTR was booked excellently. You have Edge, Christian, Kurt Angle, Rhyno, Jeff Hardy, Big Show, Tajiri, Perry Saturn, all interesting names and draws, so much intrigue and storytelling based on where these wrestlers came from on TV and where they were going. Their matches were all less than 4 minutes long. It worked. Vince and creative still had room to write all this other material while the tournament was taking place.
Now this year. Levesque not only books 1 tournament but 2, and most matches were around 10-15 minutes. Why? And there was barely any story or a "why" for these wrestlers to want to win. Zoey Stark, Ivy Nile, Tama Tonga, Shayna Baszler, Ilja Dragunov, Lyra Valkyria, they all have the personality of pocket lint. And after all that time wasted, all that happens is that the prize at the end is a number one contender match. This tournament did not feel special, especially when Triple H has done 4-5 other tournament in the past year. How is this better without Vince around?
By every quantifiable measurement it is.
Opinion is one thing, you’re entitled to your own, but if it’s by a quantifiable measurement it’s better
@@NJTRAF okay. I agree about being entitled to your opinion. But just answer this: What do you remember from any of those matches over this past month?
@@backup368 let me ask you this, where did I disagree about your assessment on that?
I didn’t, I disagreed with your overarching statement about things not being better without Vince. Unless I’ve misconstrued and you were talking about KOTR/QOTR only, in which case I apologise for the misunderstanding
@@NJTRAF You said it's better without Vince around "by every quantifiable measure."
@schw0373
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Triple H has taken a terrible and chaotic product from Vince and turned it into a stable, predictable, kinda boring product. It used to be an F and now it's just a C.
TripleH is done… wait till you guys hear the news that is gonna get
Dropped July 7, 2024…. It’s really ugly stuff, I’m praying for the family🙏🏽
what
Hhh is Vince 2.0
Triple H just has a few problems, like pushing Gunther 🤦🏽♂️ he botched the finish and is just boring overall, LA Knight should’ve won KOTR.
If not give it to Tama so Solo’s bloodline can actually have some credibility because why would Roman return?
🤦🤦🤦 thank god you're not on creative. Those are horrible ideas
Roman is going to come back anyways because he lost the title so he doesn't need his cousins being King of the Ring to make a return
Jesus what a awful take.
@@TheRealXHitman710 you would’ve given it to Rey Mysterio bean boy
@@MotherHen2012 Thanks, if there’s a God his most awful take was you
It’s the same crap
Cry harder
Yep still sucks
No it's not at least now we get long term storylines not just start something then end it a week later or drop it completely.
AEW shills coping badly.
Eric is still bitter about going to war with vince being defeated then working for him then fired twice. Also his nemesis paul heyman has flourished
Bischoff brought about the most successful version of wrestling in history. McMahon tried to copy that and, while having a virtual monopoly on wrestling, ran the entire field into the ground.
@@Spardeous bischoff is one of my influences i know his greatness but he is still bitter
@@jamesstephan3803 Yes but I don't think he's bitter about Vince, I think he's bitter about wrestling turning into a complete shit-show. Like he showed the industry what was possible, broke the mold, and it didn't end up affecting anything.