Bowling Tip: How to Stop Pulling the Ball!
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- 🔴 Bowling Tip: How to Stop Pulling the Ball!
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Shady loves his foul line drills. They feel so awkward to me. I never really could feel comfortable trying them, but I'm definitely going to have to remember the forearm pointing forward to stop from the occasional pull. Also, Shady was at my local center about a month ago and made sure to come over and talk to me see how I've been progressing. Definitely a good guy that knows what he is talking about.
They absolutely do feel weird at the beginning but if you find a time where the lanes are dead, it is extremely helpful.
@@CantingMonk I throw a decent amount of practice, and will occasionally do one or two, though my biggest issue for awhile was drifting right on the approach, so I had to figure out a better way to focus on that. My buddy that I bowl with all the time actually noticed it. He was like "dude, you haven''t drifted once", then I told him I had been working hard on it.
because youre not actually supopsed to let the ball go that late.. youre supposed to incorporate your approach into helping you carry the weight of the ball in your backswing. all these foul drills and only learning to wrist and release the ball one way, is completely not how the best bowlers bowl..
Another easy way to stop pulling the ball is concentrate on your hand under the ball point ring finger to your target follow through.
Thank you for this video! I believe this drill will help my bowling progression.
I love this, I have of recent realized that I need to make sure my forearm inside is pointing to my mark. What is interesting is that it does not feel natural but it works great, so I want to get use to this feeling. The other thing is I realized is that I can keep my forearm pointing to my mark and adjust my hand position to ensure that my thumb comes out first, how wonderful.
Reminds me of my coach, Mr. Rolf Gauger, many years ago focusing on letting the ball do the work. I came to him with the ball cupped and trying to generate revs. He straightened out my arm and taught me to feel the moment where the ball releases from the thumb and naturally rides on the fingers through release. Once you develop it, the ball is no longer "thrown", but is released. This also puts the power in the pins creating great pin action.
Sounds so simple and I like simple forearm strait at target. Can’t wait to try on league nite will let you know how I do my visual on my spares has been getting better 90 percent now from 80. I know some things bit I like your tips it reminds me of tools to use. Also the ones I don’t know. Really helps. I work with a coach but we go over basics.he gave me a big tip. 2 weeks later won amateur tourn. Texting too much but I luv this game. Always willing to learn more even at my young age 67. Thanks for every TIP!!!
Thanks for the tip!
Another great video Mike! Equally capable with the microphone and throwing the ball. I am trying to catch on a league next week so looking forward to more great content.
This is a great 'co-conspirator' to the most important 24" in bowling vid, which has helped me considerably. Thanks for the tip. .
Thank you so much
Thank you so much! I needed this video.
Great video. Need a video to help for the opposite. I tend to miss to the right.
I always used to pull the ball later in the block when I was trying to get my speed up. My arm would always pull inwards, due to me trying to rip it so hard and it sacrificed accuracy. Focusing on keeping a straighter follow through and not trying to huck it as hard as I can has helped alot.
Keeping feet slow is hard to do when miller lite is saying throw it harder,,i have same issue
Coach and team thank you for doing these videos. Very informative
Thanks for watching, we hope these tips are helping you on the lanes!!
I have a tendency to pull the ball sometimes. Thanks for the tips Mike.
TKS, simple & highly effective
hey you all, I have a tip for you, here goes. Rest the ball on you index
finger and the thumb side of your hand. do that and your forearm will
have to face your target. One more thing, if your using more boards
for hook open up [ point your toes to the right or left for the lefties.
I think what you will find when you put the weight of ball on the
outside of hand, the ball will go a little longer and have a strong
back end. take care and let me know if you try this. thanks
I am going to try the hand suggestions. I already turn my feet as I move left, my issue is getting length out of a sanded ball (hooking at the arrows on fresh oil) or getting a less aggressive reaction on a polished (plenty of length, but not getting through the pins right)
If that don't work, I might just have to change my finger pitch or just get good at lofting the gutter or half the lane.
i'm gonna try this because i can feel my arm and hand out of position at the line and trying to make a quick correction then but it's too late and a pull shot right or a weak shot left. i'm left handed. aim the elbow sounds good, thnx.
Love love!
This tip really helps!!
Great stuff! How about missing right?
Keep going to bad habits and forgetting forearm square thanks again practice session tomorrow will work until get it right. Thanks again!!!
this hopefully will help me out. I feel as though my arm swing is all over the place. being in a wheelchair the foul line drills are how I have to throw always.
Does this same practice concept apply to two handed bowlers?
Yes, this tip applies to both one handed and two handed bowlers. Thanks for the question and thanks for watching our videos!!
Does this apply to two handers as well?
It applies especially to 2h bowlers since they're using even bigger parts of their body...their legs, as well as the forearm like what Mike was talking about here. As a speed dominant player I can miss one board left and usually get some hold no matter the condition. If a 2h bowler misses that way, it's over. They won't go brooklyn they'll take three off the left.
My doubles partner is 2 handed. When he pulls the ball it does not end well.
@@SirJoelsuf1 Yeah I'm the same way, as soon as I pull, I immediately just turn around and rethink my next shot because I know I either grabbed the 7 pin or put it in the gutter.
How do I find a coach to work with?
Perhaps film Mike from the front during his approach to show the forearm pointing forward at his target.
Thank you so much like it
This plagued me all weekend in a tournament and cost me a lot of pins, hopefully I can get everything straightened out
Great job shady you are the best it's been proven.
Thanks Willie!
Dam Mike that release is getting better and better.
Ha ha. Thanks Robert!
Great tip! Stay quiet with that arm until release, and you will see your accuracy increase
I’m still not clear on what “pulling the ball” actually is, and more importantly, what causes it. Is it using your right arm muscles to pull down? Pulling your left shoulder closed?
A lot of things can cause it. One is usually being impatient and not letting the ball complete its swing before you start pushing the ball. What happens is your hand is pushing the ball forward while it's going backwards, and since most bowling balls weigh more than hands, your hand will come around to the side of it, causing you to "pull" it left of target for a right-hander, right of target for a left-hander.
Another one would be a backswing problem. When your ball swings backwards, you should be able to draw a straight line through the ball, your head, and your target. Some people get the ball swinging behind their back at such a crooked angle on the backswing that it has no way of clearing through your leg and you instinctly force it outside your body, causing you to then pull it back and miss inside of target.
I used to have the first problem, and I have overall corrected it by just keeping my hand behind the ball. If your hand is behind the ball, you can actually feel when you're pushing it on the downswing too early and you'll instinctively lay off of it until it completes its swing.
@@MetalGearDavid57 Thanks for the detailed explanation that makes sense. So here they're referring basically to "missing your target left" (for a right-hander).
I definitely have the second problem you listed, ball going behind my body on the backswing. I actually can't do the modern "swimming" motion and point my lead (left) arm straight at target because I have extremely flexible shoulders and long arms, so the ball just naturally goes way behind my body. Even when I really focus on going straight back, my backswing is just really inconsistent because there's zero physical feedback. I'm working on actually flying my lead arm more perpendicular (towards the left wall) so my natural range of motion restricts the backswing plane more.
@@baTonkaTruck I did have a problem with my backswing before, but my coach corrected it immediately before it became a bad habit. You can try using a shorter push away going more forward and towards the center of your body rather than away, and use a little bit of spine tilt. This would give you a little bit of a figure 8 swing(not as pronounced as someone like a Wes Malott or Walter Ray) but enough to keep your swing away from your back in the backswing so you have room to keep the ball close to your ankle on the front swing. This alone made shooting the 10 pin (I'm right handed) just automatic for me because I had no problems angling out my ball.
But my biggest tip would be to get a coach or someone who knows a bit about bowling to just stand behind you and record you. Maybe even set up a camera zoomed at your release point. Doing this for a year brought me literally from a 190 bowler to a 200 bowler.
@@MetalGearDavid57 Thanks! Yeah I obsessively record my practice sessions in slow-mo (240fps), even posted a couple videos of my shot on my youtube page, feel free to have a look, I always appreciate feedback.
Any recommendations for remote/online coaching? I looked at kegel but idk.
@@baTonkaTruck Yep just saw your vids. Approach and release are perfect. The only thing is, as you mentioned, your swing gets behind you quite a bit causing you to throw straighter than you would want to. I assume this would create problems with your 10 pin shooting? Anyway though, try doing a push away towards the center of your body, or even more to the left of your body.
As for online coaching, I have no idea as I've learned my whole life on the lanes either working by myself or with a coach. About 5 years ago, I did try Reddit, and they had a pretty supportive community there at the time. Just post your video and they'll give you a few tips.
I'm coaching my son who is a new bowler. He's been bowling just over a year and he averages in the mid 180s. He is a two-handed and I am not. I watch a lot of UA-cam videos on two handed bowling so I am able to coach him and I'm doing a decent job but I would love it if you could do a video just like that with a two-handed bowler. Or is it the same concept, make sure the forearm is facing forward?
Hey There, thanks for giving advice. I'm wondering if you can help me here. My problem is my bowling arm can't rotate fully (my arm rotates as far as a handshake because of a birth defect) do you have any suggestion for me? If not I understand but trying to find anyone to improve my game under the unfortunate circumstances I have.
I just returned to league bowling after a 6 year hiatus due to back issues,,the past 4 weeks i have bowled the worse in my life,,pulling most first shots and hardly turning the ball at all,,most balls are flat almost like you would shoot a spare,,i lost a brace i use to use andim wondering if that could be the culprit,,before i would only take brace off to shoot spares or very dry lane conditions,,,any suggestions,,im not a quitter but its emberassing to be bowling so awful in front of friends,,i use to carry a 185 -200 average,,not great but i was that guy on the team that had handicap and could shoot a few 600 series when needed,,,i do feel unstable at times due to back issues but i want to at least get back to shooting 180s -200 games for start,,
Like so many half-assed bowling instructional videos, this one only provides half of the answers. True, keeping the fingers at 6 o'clock with the forearm facing forward is a proper setup. However, releasing the ball straight as the coach indicates will not produce counter-clockwise rotation. It will be end over end. Something else must occur in the release to achieve that proper rotation. Unfortunately, the coach ignores this problem. I would really like to hear a good answer.
Really wish you guys had explained how the drill addresses the problem a bit more. The footnotes on the clips help a little, but standing at the foul line with my arm facing forward seems to have little to do with grip pressure, forcing the ball, etc. You gotta tie these things together for your viewers.
I want lessons to build consistency on my releases. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Also same with the line I want the ball to take to the pocket isn't consistent. I literally just throw the ball with a hook and wish for the best.
I have a dominant eye so I look 5 boards right of where I want the ball to go but I am going to use this technique to see if it will help me be more accurate. Thanks.
Can anyone help with the opposite please!!! I will have a few shots a night that miss waaaay right even falling in the channel. Super frustrating just ruins scores!
I used to do that. I was dropping my shoulder. Was told to keep my head and shoulders level and aim with the inside of my elbow. Helped me so much .
It really depends where your target is and where your feet are at. If your shoulders are too open you'll miss right a lot. Are you speed dominant/rotation challenged? Missing right is common is you are that type of bowler.
What I discovered is that there are two options if you are speed dominant/rotation challenged like I am.
1) Carve a line at the gutter (1-5 board) during practice. Literally take a light oil or dead reactive ball down to 240/360 grit and feed the ball to the 1 board from the 5 board. This will give you room out there. You can then ideally feed the ball to that point without worrying about dumping it in the right channel.
2) A technique that I call "riding the track." You take a VERY aggressive ball and feed it from the 15 board to the 10 board. Similar to the frozen rope (right up 15) but your shoulders are a little more open. However, you'll need a SUPER aggressive ball for this if you are speed dominant/rotation challenged.
@@SirJoelsuf1 thanks for the info! I definitely am a speed dominant bowler interesting that’s more common for us. I generally stand on about 17 and try to shoot straight up 10 most of the time to start the night. When you say super aggressive do you mean early hooking or a lot of backend?
I seem to do that sometimes. I think that my left (sliding) foot is too far to the left - not under me - and I fall to the right. Thinking that this tilt drive it too far right.
I have struggled with hitting my Mark
This video might have just saved my life
What causes it? Hitting it in the backswing. Wait till it gets to the bottom.
Usually pulling through a bit harder than needed can cause the hand and forearm to turn more in. This can then cause the misses left of target and the early turn. You're right, waiting on it is the way to go!!
I have a slow motion video of myself pulling the ball. I’ve tried the drill but I’m still not able to undo the horrible habit.
How would a 2 Hander do a foul line shot
Maybe next vid can be not ending so far from the foul line😂
Why do the premier? Just release the video IMHO. Love what your team does for us for free.
I still don't know what pulling means
"Pulling the shot" usually refers to missing left (for right handed bowlers) of the desired target line on the lane rather than projecting the ball on the desired target line. Thanks for watching our videos and thanks for the question!
@@insidebowlingthen pulling the ball is just missing the target.
I make this mistake a lot, I’ll try to keep my forearm straight.
I like the idea of your videos, but I feel like they're too short and make a lot of assumptions about our knowledge. For instance, you don't define "pulling". I worry about pulling the ball back on my swing, but I get the impression this refers to the forward swing. I know you show video of pulling and not pulling, but as a non-professional who is still pretty obsessed, I don't see the difference.
Thanks for watching our videos and thanks for your feedback, we appreciate it. It can be a challenge to make an instructional video that will speak to all level bowlers. For that reason, we tend to be a bit more general with the tips and verbiage as the more specific we get, the less bowlers will tend to identify with it. We will try to be more aware of explaining some of the common terms used in bowling a bit better moving forward. Thank you!
I didn't see any difference in the before and after shots.
Only that the target changed. Was no difference in arm swing, which is supposed to be what pulling the ball is.
Hmm all he did is move a few boards left and got the ball out, if your standing to far right of course you will pull the ball
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