Coronation of Ludwig II. 루드비히 신들의 황혼
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- Опубліковано 28 жов 2017
- 바바리아의 왕 루드비히 2세의 파란만장한 인생과 말년의 비참함을 장장 4시간에 걸쳐 그린 비스콘티의 대작. 1864년 왕위에 올라 1886년에 짧은 생을 마감하기까지 리하르트 바그너의 팬이었고, 그를 배신한 그의 사촌 엘리자베스를 사랑했으며, 동성애 성향이 평생 자신을 괴롭힌 세상에서 가장 로맨틱한 왕으로 불렸던 루드비히 왕의 생애를 그렸다. 화려한 세트와 사실적인 구성을 미학적 완성도와 함께 보여주는 작품으로 비스콘티 작품에 ‘데카당스’라는 수식어를 선사한 작품이다.
Ludwig is a 1973 film directed by Italian director Luchino Visconti about the life and death of King Ludwig II of Bavaria. Helmut Berger stars as Ludwig, Romy Schneider reprises her role as Empress Elisabeth of Austria (from the 1955 film Sissi and its two sequels).
The film was made in Munich and other parts of Bavaria at these locations: Roseninsel, Berg Castle, Lake Starnberg, Castle Herrenchiemsee, Castle Hohenschwangau, Linderhof Palace, Cuvilliés Theatre, Nymphenburg Palace, Ettal, Kaiservilla and Neuschwanstein Castle. Visconti suffered a stroke during filming. - Фільми й анімація
The gowns are so historically accuratte I'm actually surprised! The court dresses were astonishing!
Can you imagine the cost of the ice keeping the Champagne cold?
.The coronation of Ludwig II was in 1864. The crinoline dresses were absolutely stunning. The perfection of Luchino Visconti.
@@SuperChuckRaney maybe zero cost if it was in Munich in winter
that it is sorprise for me it is the insuferble protocol in the European royal events, where is the fun, the pasion.
@@mexicoxv2236 Passion was for plebs and artists, Victorian mentality and a thousand years of ceremony based on kings being almost sacred makes for hieratic, protocolary and outright byzantine court etiquette. And give thanks this is not a movie about Byzantine ceremony. Their Orthodox masses make Wagnerian opera seem as short and fun as 2000's Vines.
Playlist:
0:00 "Bayerischer Defiliermarsch" (Bavarian Parade March) by Adolf Scherzer
2:12 "König-Karl-Marsch" (King Karl March) by Carl Ludwig Unrath
3:13 "Bayerischer Defiliermarsch" again
4:20 "König-Karl-Marsch" again
5:25 "Kreuzritter-Fanfare" (Crusaders Fanfare) by Richard Henrion
Only the "Bayerischer Defiliermarsch" was existing in 1864, when Ludwig II became King, but wasn't very famous yet at that time. The other two marches were composed years later and are not Bavarian marches at all - King Karl was King of Württemberg, and the "Kreuzritter-Fanfare" is a Prussian march from the 1890ies.
The point is: visconti knew all that. But it was all the same to him.
danke
This is a "Motion Painting". Stunningly beautiful!
The set up of this movie is really accurate and realistic, without overdoing it. I have the feeling American historic movies somehow fail to capture the reality of a different era as nicely.
Il faudrait que la Culture de la Société américaine soit suffisante pour cela.
The reason American historical dramas pale besides those of the BBC and other countries is not only due to a paucity of talent but also because they omit the pivotal issues in the development of this country: slavery and the atrocities committed against the native population.
Yeah yeah, America bad. Come back after you've watched Age of Innocence, There Will Be Blood, The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, actually just watch everything by Paul Thomas Anderson. Then you can start commenting about realism in period pieces.
In reality the British are good at recreating the past when set in England or Scotland.
While the French with their natural elegance, excellent at recreating the past of their own country.
American can create western scenes (the american west). But lack the capacity to
recreate european scenes set in historical settings accurately.
Director Visconti was born in 1906 into an aristocratic Italian family, he was able to still give the scene an authentic look, while this whole aristocratic atmosphere is far away from most of us and modern Hollywood people.
Helmut Berger was the most handsome King Louis II. of Bavaria in film history. He was so far away from reality, magnificent. The court gowns of Queen Mary of Bavaria and her Ladies in waiting are absolutely stunning.
yes😅
When I was 6 years old my Mom took me and my sisters to then West Germany to visit family. I'm glad she took me to several castles and Neuschwanstein was by far the most impressive. I remember we had to remove our shoes and put special slippers on in order to protect the floors. Crazy that I got to see the actual coronation robe Ludwig wore. Everything about the castle was Ludwig's vision to realize his own fantasies and he succeeded. He's really a tragic figure in that he didn't like what he saw in the real world and so constructed his own. He couldn't keep reality at bay though as 'officially' he drowned in a lake when it's fairly obvious he was murdered. He wasn't cruel or vindictive like many other monarchs, but a rather benign and innocent man caught up in the ruthless politics and court intrigues of Hapsburg Europe.
It's not very clear what happened to him, he might have committed suicide as well, as his mental health was in a bad state
@@jonny2900 Also, he was a heavy-set man by then, and had eaten a heavy meal before going on his walk. He may have had a heart attack, after struggling with Dr. Gulden(sp?) and then plunging in the cold lake in an attempt to swim away.
But, no body really knows what happened.
@@jonny2900 and he was stated mad by most German nobility because he emptied Bavaria's coffers to build these fabulous palaces and he was kept in an asylum, and completely heartbroken when he was taken back to that lake near neuschwantsein, and so that could have been the reason that with so much emotion taking him he drowned himself and the doctor who took him there
A great experience you got long time ago and you remember all .
You understand this tragic monarch. Chapeau.
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ABSOLUMENT
Bavarian kings actually didn't have coronation ceremonies. Two days after his father's death, Ludwig's ascension council was held in the palace throne room, in which he was invested with the royal regalia and he swore allegiance to the Bavarian constitution. He wore a Bavarian general's uniform and the robe of state, as shown in this scene, but the palace was draped with black crepe, and the courtiers and ministers were dressed in mourning.
That's the magic of Cinema. Recreate events and reality in a fancy, whimsical idealized version.
@@Luis-yx1xi I know they tried to portray Prince Charles investiture as Prince of Wales on TV at night in a candle- filled room and of course it didn't happen that way
So I would imagine from your comment that he wasn't actually crowned king? That they just placed the crown in front of him on a pillow and he took an oath on it? I think they did that in Spain with King Juan Carlos.
@@michaelharrison2165 The U.K. is the last European monarchy that has an actual coronation.
@@daniel_sc1024 Interesting!
Helmut, rest in peace. You were the uncontested legend...
The young man, Prince Otto, Ludwig's brother, would eventually go insane, and by the end of Ludwigs reign be locked up in an asylum. Ironically, after Ludwig's imprisonment on dubious charges of insanity and subsequent death, the certifiably insane Otto was declared king (with a regency, of course).
It was plotted by the Prussians, Ludwig 2. didn't want war
@@jaklm4221 pretty sure Bismarck was Ludwigs personal friend. How do you figure the Prussians were behind it?
@@AL73250 Because they wanted to form Germany? And Bavaria was pretty much the last obstacle after Alsace Lorraine and a pretty big one at that.
@@oc8636 What do you mean? Ludwig died 15 years after the Empire was founded, with Bavaria as part of it.
@@AL73250 Because he didnt fit with the Prussians anymore.
Yeah Bavaria was 'part' of Germany but do you have any idea how decentralized it was in the beginning?
The bigger Kingdoms in Germany even had their own armies up to 1914 and there was always a powerstruggle internally that the prussians wanted to win (Kulturkampf for example).
There was 100% someone getting use out off declaring Ludwig insane (and him dying within the same year) and considering that Bavaria was the biggest 'problem' to prussian dominance in Germany it would be plausible for them to have it set up.
Awe-inspiring film. Thank you, Luchino Visconti. The speech between the soldier and the king somehow reminds me of our current situation in Italy.
The costumes in this scene are gorgeous !
Questi erano film...grande Visconti!!!!
bravo che ricostruzione lussuola e rigorosa
i love the old pomp and circumstance!
비텔스바흐 가문이 미남 미녀가 많았는데 루트비히 2세도 젊은 시절 엄청난 미남에 191cm의 장신이었죠.. 그래서 그런가 루트비히 2세 역의 배우가 비주얼이 ㄷㄷ
酢屋様飯蒸しシムス経て目鉄
This masterpiecing movie is a mesmerizing nostalgic aristocratic dream, like Ludwig's life and Visconti's art were ! 💯
Thanks for sharing! The greatest movie of Italian cinema than ever, thanks to the genius of Count Luchino Visconti di Modrone, and to the beauty of actors as Helmut Berger, Helmut Griem (Count Durkheim) , John Moulder Brown (Prince Otto), Umberto Orsini (Count Von Holstein) and Isabella Telezinkaja (The Queen Mother). The best expression of Italian Genius: the whole movie is "the" masterpiece: four hours of endless beauty, intensity, depth, historical and power struggles and drama!
From what I’ve read is that Sophie truly loved him and yes ended up in France where she met a horrible fate (being burned alive). She and Elizabeth were the beauties of the family but Sisi always got the credit because well she was empress of Austria, Sophie a mere duchess. However both sisters met horrible ends with Sophie’s being the worst.
Yes, I saw a documentary in Spanish about it here on UA-cam. It was so sad. Apparently Sophie was a very good hearted person 😢
Merveilleux film de Visconti.
Intriguing!
Its hard to believe that people actually used to live like this.
Sucks that we don't.
@@corneliuscapitalinus845 Indeed!!
Some people have even more extravagant lives these days...
@@michaelharrison2165indeed
@@u3u36nothing is more extravagant then this lifetime
Helmut Berger, Alain Delon, Robert Redford and Paul Newman were considered the best-looking actors of the late ‘60s into the ‘70s.
Delon by far. And his looks still don't look old-fashioned.
@@spoffspoffington6576he was other worldly gorgeous
Beautiful Actors.
Somehow I had never heard of this movie until I saw this clip in my feed list. Gods, I love 70s movies like this... Napoleon, Barry Lydon, etc.
I will say that John Moulder-Brown as Prince Otto just looks stunning here as he greets the guests, reminds me of Dune's Timothée Chalamet.
If I may, I recommend the BBC production series “A Fall of Eagles” ..it details the story of the final years of the Hapsburg,Hohenzollern and Romanov dynasties from 1848 to 1918…its a very good and in-depth look at the behind the scenes machinations of the Great Royal households and what led to their downfall….what makes this series intriguing is the relationships between the various royal families and the cousins George V,Wilhelm II,and NicholasII…it’s a fascinating story..
wspaniale jestem zachwycona
Why was I recomended a video about the coronation of a Bavarian king with english and Korean titles?
I wondered the same thing. Life is funny like that.
I think because of Civ 6. It has him as a leader, the Dream king.
I would have loved to see that in real life.
I believe Helmut Berger said he became widowed when Visconti died; like his works or not Visconti surely picked beautiful men.
I have worked on costume dramas, and they must have had everyone there at 5am to get them all dressed and ready!
Even though I am American and royalty isn't our thing... there is something very familiar about the ceremony and tradition... very comforting... the thousands of years of culture and tradition tying a people together.
exactly Dave! I am hostile to monarchy my self. Atleast the current one as i consider it corrupted. I am an idealist and i hold monarchy very high. Like the father of the nation, the ultra shine example, the paradigm of perfection which embodies who we are as a community and where we come from. Indeed its not even the King, its the crown, that symbol that we look upon. Nevertheless we do miss etiquette and tradition in modern "West" and this is not by luck but subversion from within. U want to see something cool? ua-cam.com/video/A-JvR3g6nhY/v-deo.html. All the titles of the world, all the achievements won't make the monks to permit the body of the dead disentent of the Hasbourgs to enter the monastery for burrial next to his anchestors's graves. Whom at the past they were on the thrones of many countries. The procession's leader has to ask permission to burry a "humble, sinful man". Its a centuries old tradition that the members of the family allthough they are not kings anymore, still honor. This is what they took from the West.
I just watched it, that is amazing! A very beautiful ceremony, and exactly what I was talking about... it reminds me a bit of the "blackrod caremony" in British parliament... which is another great European/royalist tradition that I hope continues... thank you for showing me that video!
5:19 there's barely anywhere to step in that ballroom with all those dresses
Ludwig is beginning His Reign by beeing bored to death. He often used the french expression "state affairs ( affaires d'état) and twisted it by saying " fadaises d'État" (stupid state affairs).
He was actually shy in public, and hated all the people watching him. That is why he retreated from public life. In time, even going to the theatre (which he loved) would be relegated to rehearsals and private performances with himself alone in the audience.
Luchino Visconti è sto un grande regista! Era un nobile faceva parte della famiglia Visconti che sono stati per molti anni duchi di Milano e di gran parte del nord Italia!
proprio cosi. era il Suo Mondo
I read that the guy who played Ludwig didn't age gracefully sadly.
Yes, Berger has been drinking and other things since Viscontis death in 1976. He is still a fascinating Person, but you can see at him what alcohol can do to looks and brains.
Neither did the real Ludwig! The king grew quite fat, and he quickly lost his charming looks.
@@princevesperal Even when he died when he was still young
@@pa3997 Helmut Berger looks very simular to Alan Delon at least in this movie.
There are other movies about Ludwig II in Germany. In this movies Ludwig is mostly portrayed by O. W. Fischer, also a very good actor.
he was caught shoplifting in a budget supermarket whilst living with his mother again after spending all his millions on booze, boys and drugs🤣
Une Merveille...Un des plus grands Film a mon sens...
Toute l'oeuvre de Visconti est merveilleuse, à 82 ans je la regarde encore.
Talk about a classy venue
He has a villain face, I kinda like it.
i like to imagine that King Ludwig and Prince Paul are somewhere in the beyond right now making each other laugh while reading wagner.
Lindo 💓😍💓
Ah, catholic Germans. Glorious.
I guess the SSPX in Bavaria is the nearest thing now
😍😍😍🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
I wished this add subtitles
does anyone know the name of the music in the background?
You know I love all thing Royal
altro capolavoro visconteo.
Genial esta escena de la película de Luchino Visconti. Creo que todas sus películas son magníficas
Previously was more splendor
What film is this? The costume looks stunning 😍
Ludwig, directed by Luchino Visconti in 1973.
@@Eerau Danke schön!
Ruby tiara with amethysts 🤭
*Viva Baviera!!!!!* 🇩🇪🏰🍺🥨
My gods, the likeness was fantastic... even th weird hair style! I can see now why he grew a mustache soon after.
Why that, then ?
What is the name of this movie?
The coronation never happened but I love this scene nonetheless.
Of His Royal Highness King Ludwig.
I see videos here and there from this movie about the Swan King, but what is the name of the movie?
Just "Ludwig"
This scene reveals perfectly how empty and hollow court life is.
Man, I'd like to have that emptyness and hollowness
In contrast, the life of the middle class is full of deep meaning and spirituality.
@@countalma9800 If you refer to the life of the middling classes back in the 19th century, the answer is probably, yes!
Ah, the great Ideals and archetypes of the Bourgois merchant and consumer!
Are we not blessed and enlightened?
Yep. Tragic movie...
For better or worse, an era when certain people had time for ritual and dressing up.
certain people still have.
In Inghilterra esiste ancora direi
Bavarian kings did have coronation ceremonies. Unlike the UK, the ascension council was held in the palace throne room, where he was crowned and invested with the royal regalia and he swore allegiance to the Bavarian constitution. he wore a Bavarian royal uniform, a crown, a orb, a sceptre and a robe of state, as shown in this scene, but the palace was draped with black crepe, and the courtiers, prime ministers, world leaders and ministers were dressed in mourning.
So the hot guy in black wasn't the king? What is the name of this movie?
Helmut Berger was the best Kini
美しい、不幸な、孤独な月の王
Hello I'm Korean, but I have forgotten my mother tongue (I am relearning), can any fellow brother recommend me a Korean language yt channel to help study?
What is the name of the movie this clip is from?
Sir, this is an excerpt from the film «Ludwig II of Bavaria» (1973) director Luchino Visconti.
@@user-sx6rp6tm8t Thank you kind stranger. Bavaria is my home, I'm looking forward to see a foreign production about the Kini.
@@jaklm4221 , іmmer gerne behilflich. Ah, Herr Jakl, Bayern ist einer meiner Lieblingsorte in Deutschland. Immer bewundert das kulturelle Erbe der großen deutschen Zivilisation. Ich komme aus der Ukraine, das ist neben Russland, obwohl wir in der Mentalität gleich sind: Russen, Ukrainer und Weißrussen (die Unterschiede sind unbedeutend). Und Sie können fragen, was für ein Kimi? Stört es dich, wenn ich Deutsch benutze? Ich denke, er ist für Sie, mein lieber Herr, mein Lieber, und dies wird Ihre Wahrnehmung von Informationen erleichtern.
@@user-sx6rp6tm8t Kini is Bavarian dialect for „König" meaning King
We call King Ludwig 2. Kini
@@jaklm4221, now it is clear, спасибо (spasibo- thank you). I heard that you have many dialects in Germany that are very different from each other.
At his actual coronation he was so nervous he peed himself and threw up afterwards, although obviously I can see why they wouldn't replicate that in the film
wondering who the prettty boy was at the start of the video: turns out to be John Moulder-Brown as prince Otto, younger brother of Ludwig, the actor was just 20. Otto sucseeded Ludwig as king but was under constant regency because of depressions.
Why is Ludwig so stiff ? Maybe it’s the champagna
Movie name please
Sissi was much younger than shown here, at the time of Ludwig's ascension she was 25
And having a higher rank as empress she never would bend a knee standing vis a vis a king !
That’s not Sissi. It’s his mother
@@jaykauffman4775You're right.
Right after this, is the Coronation of Wagner
Please tell mi waht is the name of the film
"LUDWIG" by Luchino Visconti (1973)
@@edwardderiseis3702 thank you very much
Subtitles?
Similar to British protocol.
Ludwig von Bayern
Tanta parafernalia. Crei que estábamos en otro mundo.
Que gente más extravagante mientras existen niños en el mundo muriendo de hambre y miseria. Estamos otra era. Que le sucede a esa gente?
😢😢😢😢😢😢
When most of the leaders were royalty in Europe in my grandfather's time when he was born in 1874. In Spain on my mother's side.
Every monarch start off well and some end up in a horrible condition.
Esse do bigodão branco seria o imperador marido de Sisi??
The actor playing the Pope resembles Pope John XXIII, in my opinion
why was some of those people wearing the colors of the argentinian flag?
porque algunas de esas personas usaban los colores de la bandera argentina?
Blue and white are also the bavarian colours. Long before Argentina was a thing.
Movie name, please !
'Ludwig II' - the DVD is on Amazon etc but no English sub titles!
A smydgeon of European history, Europe that actually is sinking to an endless ground...
A Much More Civilized Time…
Ludwig of Bavaria ? He lived in the world famous Neuschwanstein Castle.
😀
Les souverains ferus de culture ont toujours eu des problèmes.
Les souverains conquérants ... jamais.
루드비히가 아니라 루트비히에요 그리고 바바이라왕국은 영어명칭이고 독일어로는 바이에른 왕국이 맞는듯해요
En alemán es Bayern, Baviera es en español.
@@silviatito7914
The English translation of Bayern is Bavaria. Barbara is a woman’s name in English! Ludwig translates to Louis in both English and French, but the English speaking world calls him Ludwig, regardless!
Name translations are very difficult and confusing. That’s why nowadays most people avoid them and try to use the more commonly understood names.
그게그거야 호구야
European names are not suitable for Korean
If he was alive today, he would be living an open life, like his great-grandnephew, the present pretender to the Bavarian throne, who is openly gay, perhaps it’s in their genes
Long live the french revolution, monarchy madness expensive.
So. Many. Krauts.
I'd kill for English subtitles.
What's the name of the film?
Ludwig II of Bavaria» (1973) director Luchino Visconti.
@@keziahdelaney8174 ευχαριστώ
Michael Jackson played His Majesty very well!
A Prussian Lutheran among Catholic wittelsbachs
The mad king of Baviera🤴🤴🤴🤴
Wait this is not crista ludwig
Never knew there were still Germanic principality with a king after Wilhelm emperor of Germany
The German Empire 2nd Reich started later, in 1871 after the first defeat of France. The subsidiary monarchies lasted until November 1918.
This king lived until 1886 with successors until 1918, look it up
Film?
Ludwig II of Bavaria» (1973) director Luchino Visconti.
Meanwhile, Ludwig is thinking “I can’t wait to start spending that cash and getting all the c--k in Bavaria I can get my hands on”
He was indeed like that, but he never gets what he wants. Sad.
True. He was so.
Ludwig never wore a crown. They don’t show it being put on his head.
Visconti del resto era il rampollo di una delle più antiche e nobili casate d'Italia!...
🤣🤣😂😂😂
There was NO coronation in the Bavarian Monarchy!!!
Why ?
@@user-jb7eo2zt9z because bavaria never had a coronation ceremony it only had a inauguration ceremony
Seine Majestät der König Franz Josef Strauss I