This is soooo true. After years of skiing, leaning forward is perhaps one of THE MOST important things I've learned. It really does keep your legs from tiring out like they do when you lean back. It also just makes carving so much easier. Keep those shins forwards and lean down hill and it's a huge difference.
There's a lot of misunderstanding about pressure. Basically, the skier doesn't apply pressure to the ski, but the ski applies pressure to the skier. By leaning the legs he makes the curved edge of the ski curve even more & also cut firmly into the snow rather than skid across it so the ski is forced to follow the path of that curved edge & follow the geometry of an arc. The tighter the arc & the higher the speed, the greater the centripetal force needed to make the skiier follow that arc.
damn. never heard about keeping weight on the front. Maybe that's why I skid a lot when I'm carving. Taught myself and I gets me down the slope fast and keeps me on my feet, but I can't wait to try this stuff out.
I like this video. I have been skiing for about 5 years and the instructors at Steamboat said after my last lesson that I'm an advanced intermediate at least a level 8 but I realize that my legs keep burning out too fastWhat Bode said made sense I am not keeping enough pressure on the front of my bootsI turn and carve well but I think this is the one thing that Im still doing wrong. Are there any boots that are specifically designed to aid you in keeping proper pressure to the front?
They're not actually planting their poles or doing very much with them, except to drag the inner pole across the snow as they turn. For the amount of pole planting that they're doing (i.e. hardly any), they might just as well be skiing without poles.
Not necessarily. Google for "Bode Miller Breaks the Rules" and take the AOL-Link. Leaning backward can bring you huge advantages and can be extremely fun. It definately has it's downsides, but it's not "wrong"...it's simply more difficult.
That stuff is called crud? I thought that's the way it's supposed to be. Hunter Mtn is like that from top to bottom, crud... no wonder it's such a workout getting down.
Your not supposed to actually put your pole into the snow. The whole idea of the pole plant to change the position of your body. As you plant the pole you reach forward with your hand and it forces your upper body forward. This gives you greater pressure on your edge and much greater control of the ski as you initiate the turn.
@DerekChurchill really? are you on the pro circut, the guys skiing doesnt always look great (hardly ever) but he's fast and sometimes thats all that matters, did you see HH's movement analysis of his skiing, it was rough, tore bode to pieces
With regard to pole touch, Bode is demonstrating properly, but not correctly DESCRIBING what he is doing. Watch the video. He RELEASES first, THEN touches the pole. If you can't see it in real time, slow it down. The more aggressive the terrain the earlier the pole touch. But again, notice the release, then touch.
Look at the history of Bode Miller anf you may be surprised that he actually knows what he's talking about! check wafflestudent's post and remember the xplanation well
Well, I always thought it was kinetically wrong. Unless you're trying to boost yourself across the flats, it's all about balance, isn't it? Your right arm goes out when your weight is on the left ski - just as your right arm goes forward when your left leg goes forward walking. I'm not speaking as a ski instructor, I'm just a person who owns a body and thinks that double polling looks really odd. I wouldn't dare comment, except this is a video that purports to teach people how to pole.
@wafflestudent dude? i just use em... i dont really give a fuck, if they are there for fucking sticking em ino da snow! Lol... just have fucking fun at skiing :D Yeah man! :)
I wish these people who know about skiing would emphasise the pole plant !,,,, from the video it is not clear how to understand it.....the guys skiing need to slow down and show the pole plant.. not just dust the pole across the snow....its timing,,, put the pole out first, plant it, then turn around the pole.... keeps your body position right too !..simplz...x
Here's the problem with this video. Bode Miller, pretty much the best skier in the world, double pole plants in some of these clips - which is very odd looking. Hey, Bode, what's that about? Aren't you supposed to pole with one arm at a time? I mean, I broke up with a guy once because he double poled....
What are you talking about! Carving is not just for racing! I dont know about you but the mountain I teach at we are taught to carve every turn. turning is allways the same movement no matter the condition. Some movements just more exaggerated in other conditions. you sound like one of those crappy instructors that most eastern mountains have. And I would know i work in the East!
I wish these people who know about skiing would emphasise the pole plant !,,,, from the video it is not clear how to understand it.....the guys skiing need to slow down and show the pole plant.. not just dust the pole across the snow....its timing,,, put the pole out first, plant it, then turn around the pole.... keeps your body position right too !..simplz...x
This is soooo true. After years of skiing, leaning forward is perhaps one of THE MOST important things I've learned. It really does keep your legs from tiring out like they do when you lean back. It also just makes carving so much easier. Keep those shins forwards and lean down hill and it's a huge difference.
i have a huge head and i got one at my local freestlyle ski shop in xl and it fits perfect.
great video specially after the ankle flexion forward , very useful tips guys we have to manage every skiing day, thank you !
There's a lot of misunderstanding about pressure. Basically, the skier doesn't apply pressure to the ski, but the ski applies pressure to the skier. By leaning the legs he makes the curved edge of the ski curve even more & also cut firmly into the snow rather than skid across it so the ski is forced to follow the path of that curved edge & follow the geometry of an arc. The tighter the arc & the higher the speed, the greater the centripetal force needed to make the skiier follow that arc.
damn. never heard about keeping weight on the front. Maybe that's why I skid a lot when I'm carving. Taught myself and I gets me down the slope fast and keeps me on my feet, but I can't wait to try this stuff out.
I like this video. I have been skiing for about 5 years and the instructors at Steamboat said after my last lesson that I'm an advanced intermediate at least a level 8 but I realize that my legs keep burning out too fastWhat Bode said made sense I am not keeping enough pressure on the front of my bootsI turn and carve well but I think this is the one thing that Im still doing wrong. Are there any boots that are specifically designed to aid you in keeping proper pressure to the front?
They're not actually planting their poles or doing very much with them, except to drag the inner pole across the snow as they turn. For the amount of pole planting that they're doing (i.e. hardly any), they might just as well be skiing without poles.
Not necessarily. Google for "Bode Miller Breaks the Rules" and take the AOL-Link. Leaning backward can bring you huge advantages and can be extremely fun. It definately has it's downsides, but it's not "wrong"...it's simply more difficult.
Good stuff.
Head intermediate or Volkl intermediate?
In crud float and sting. Be heavy to turn and light to float between turns.
Very good. Even for beginners.
Thomas Dorch, Sweden.
I use poles for balance but they never touch the snow. Its all about shifting your weight
@majid3006 Lol, I ALWAYS go STRAIGHT down. The best and most fun way of skiing.
great work, very helpful
but....when im skiing all day and im always leaning forward, my shins hurt SO much.
Bode has it backwards--skiers who think of a pole plant as the first part of their turn are generally late with their pole plant.
That stuff is called crud? I thought that's the way it's supposed to be. Hunter Mtn is like that from top to bottom, crud... no wonder it's such a workout getting down.
the front of the boot! thanks! m quads thank u too!
Does anyone know any place i can get a very large (67-68cm) ski/snow helmet?
OMG ME TOO how do you turn lol?
I drive my tips with the balls of my feet.... and it seems to work pretty well
Your not supposed to actually put your pole into the snow. The whole idea of the pole plant to change the position of your body. As you plant the pole you reach forward with your hand and it forces your upper body forward. This gives you greater pressure on your edge and much greater control of the ski as you initiate the turn.
@DerekChurchill really? are you on the pro circut, the guys skiing doesnt always look great (hardly ever) but he's fast and sometimes thats all that matters, did you see HH's movement analysis of his skiing, it was rough, tore bode to pieces
With regard to pole touch, Bode is demonstrating properly, but not correctly DESCRIBING what he is doing. Watch the video. He RELEASES first, THEN touches the pole. If you can't see it in real time, slow it down. The more aggressive the terrain the earlier the pole touch. But again, notice the release, then touch.
The pole "touch" looks simultaneous at the turn initiation to me.
Look at the history of Bode Miller anf you may be surprised that he actually knows what he's talking about!
check wafflestudent's post and remember the xplanation well
No you don't need poles, it just mainly helps with balance and I find it just as easy without them.
Well, I always thought it was kinetically wrong. Unless you're trying to boost yourself across the flats, it's all about balance, isn't it? Your right arm goes out when your weight is on the left ski - just as your right arm goes forward when your left leg goes forward walking. I'm not speaking as a ski instructor, I'm just a person who owns a body and thinks that double polling looks really odd. I wouldn't dare comment, except this is a video that purports to teach people how to pole.
THANK YOU, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKINGGGG
there is something i dont get in skiing why dont people just go straight instead of curving all the time, i mean whats the point of curving :S
ty uploader
I wish Valentina was my secret.
Bode pls try not to lean back in every race!
FORE AND AFT
@wafflestudent dude? i just use em... i dont really give a fuck, if they are there for fucking sticking em ino da snow! Lol... just have fucking fun at skiing :D
Yeah man!
:)
so my dad has been telling the truth all these years. hehe
I wish these people who know about skiing would emphasise the pole plant !,,,, from the video it is not clear how to understand it.....the guys skiing need to slow down and show the pole plant.. not just dust the pole across the snow....its timing,,, put the pole out first, plant it, then turn around the pole.... keeps your body position right too !..simplz...x
Bode Miller, I can't believe you're a pro! I'm so much better than you!
My biggest problem is, what the hell she is doing down in the lodge while I am skiing ? )))
@majid3006 cos you are CONTROLLED
not so perfekt as we do..
Here's the problem with this video. Bode Miller, pretty much the best skier in the world, double pole plants in some of these clips - which is very odd looking.
Hey, Bode, what's that about? Aren't you supposed to pole with one arm at a time?
I mean, I broke up with a guy once because he double poled....
What are you talking about! Carving is not just for racing! I dont know about you but the mountain I teach at we are taught to carve every turn. turning is allways the same movement no matter the condition. Some movements just more exaggerated in other conditions. you sound like one of those crappy instructors that most eastern mountains have. And I would know i work in the East!
This is basic knowledge. Not ''Advanced'' in the slightest.
I wish these people who know about skiing would emphasise the pole plant !,,,, from the video it is not clear how to understand it.....the guys skiing need to slow down and show the pole plant.. not just dust the pole across the snow....its timing,,, put the pole out first, plant it, then turn around the pole.... keeps your body position right too !..simplz...x