Advanced Ski Technique - Skiing Stacked
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Ski Instructors often use the term 'skiing stacked' when talking about body position in ski technique.
In this advanced ski lesson Darren Turner, presenter of the Ski School series of Apps for iPhone, iPod touch and iPad explains what 'being stacked' means and tells you how it will improve your skiing - not only when carving but off piste, in powder and crud too. Learn to ski the right way.
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I think your videos are terrific. I am an intermediate-advanced skier, and much of what you say is so nice for putting into practice. I am surprised at the level of criticism on youtube. You are doing a terrific job. Keep up the good work.
thanks for tip, your tutorage is very helpful
dndrich same
Love all your videos. You are the best
Thank you glad to hear you like the films, I do often wear a helmet since this was filmed. I strongly believe it is a personal choice but also a lot of people watch the films so all of the new series is filmed with a helmet.
This guy is an excellent teacher - thanks for the refresher course .
I just want to go skiing after watching this especially in those conditions.
Hi Living Heat Winter is here again and we've got some new Expert skiing films to help inspire. Any holidays planned for this season?
Darren, you're videos are outstanding! Thank you for posting them. I'm a ski instructor in Minnesota where the hills are very small, and when I go out west to ski I'm suffering non-stop on days 4 and 5. Being "stacked" doesn't seem so important here, but I know it does matter on real ski hills and I've been working on getting better at that as well as teaching my students better technique. Thanks!
Thanks very much Mike, it's been a lot of hard work but comments like yours really do make it worthwhile especially the fact you are an instructor and work in the industry. You can always download the app as well which will allow you to compare any demonstration you wish against one of your clients. Thanks again and hope you have a great season.
It's really great to hear other instructors enjoy my films thanks very much, and don't forget you can download the ski school app and use it with your clients to compare their body positions.Thanks again and have a great season Darren.
Thank you very much it's great to hear people appreciate the work we have put in, I hope you enjoy the apps and they help your skiing. Thanks again Darren
This is one of my favorite videos. After watching this I corrected my over-rotation issue, and I feel much stronger and better balanced on the snow. Now no matter how the snow texture is, being stacked gets you out of the turn easy and with no trouble. Thank you. Nice jacket by the way.
Try to use the arc of the carve turn to slow down. Turn fully across and almost up the hill, if the terrain gets steeper you may have to apply a percentage of skid to your turn to help scrub some speed. This doesn't make you a bad skier.
Lost count of how many times I've watched this and still learning new things.
Awesome. Everyday is a school day and you can always pick up something different. Even looking back at some of the earlier levels you might find a little gem that changes the way you think about a movement in skiing. Top work Vic.
I've been teaching and coaching for many years and somehow never came across this exercise. I tried it and it works wonders (both for myself and my students). Thanks for the great videos and keep up the good work!
Darren I haven't skied for 30 years and am starting again. Your videos are awesome and you explain things so well. Thanks a lot!!!!
@enuffskillz Thanks enuffskillz! It's really gratifying to get feedback like that, it makes all the hard work we put in worthwhile. Enjoy what's left of the ski season and keep an eye out for a lot of new and exciting skiing content coming to our channel in the next couple of weeks...
Thanks for the great response. We've tried to strip out all the jargon and nonsense and just deliver the facts to help make you a better skier. Glad you're enjoying them. Cheers.
Great video.I find all Darren,s istruction and action very helpful and simple to follow. I find the hand on the thigh technique help to stabilize my shoulder. I am able now to ski down black runs confidently few weeks ago this year following his videos advice on skiing steep. I have overcome the fear of skiing steep for years. Thanks, Darren.
Glad you like it. We've tried to strip out all the jargon to make the lessons easier to understand. So stay tuned and click Subscribe as we've got more steep skiing techniques coming out soon in the Expert series. Cheers
Darren,
This is a very good series of videos and you are to applauded for putting them on UA-cam. I'm a trainer at a ski school here in the US and I've steered a number of my instructors to your video for both their own development and drills to show their students. Keep up the great work!
Mike
its hard to find such good videos that teach you exactly what you need to know. It seems like everything on the internet is way too basic or way too advanced. Thank you so much, this rocks!
We have filmed some things for steeper and more challenging slopes we are trying to get them ready for this season, glad you found the films useful.
I love your video.It taught me how to shred.I am going skiing this weekend and you taught me a lot!!!!! Thank you!!!
Thanks Brandi Bagley it's a pleasure. It great to hear such positive feedback about our ski lessons. It definitely helps motivate us to keep making more. Hope you had a great trip.
I would just like to express my gratitude for this video. I was skiing a few backs and discovered I was doing the opposite to what I should of been doing. This video has made me feel confident to try something new to benefit my technique. Thanks. Awesome tutorial. Thanks again.
Finally! Someone who has a good technique not making a ´hey look at me I am a good skier with technique no one understand´ video. This is the way to show people how to improve there technique, understandable and a good example.
Thanks Duncan you did really well,I'm glad you enjoyed it, Keep it stacked.
@InsideOutSkiing Hi Scott, glad you enjoyed them. Don''t worry... there's plenty more where they came from!
Merry Christmas!
@jimidee33 thanks jimidee33, glad to be of help. Have a great ski season!
I stopped skiing after my daughter's birth, now she's 6 and start learn to ski, in a quick few weeks she's already as good or bad as I am , I no longer qualify for any further teaching, Luckily your video helped a lot, we watch them on iPhone when we at ski break study the move and evaluate our progress, thanks a lot..
@smicha7 Glad you like it Smicha7, there are lots more videos coming over the winter - some will be technique clips (for all levels of skier) and some more general ski stuff, have a great season!!
thanks Darren and elatemedia, going to Japan in a week and it is a good reminder of what to do and what not to do. The best form of revision without actually being on skis.
Very pleased you find them useful glad it helped thanks again Darren.
Good exercise! I like the way the use of both hands are demonstrated. If the outside hand is following the outside ski and the inside hand is placed properly, then over rotation of the torso cannot occur thus twisting or rotaing the skis off their edges. I also like the "flow" aspect you mention, the smooth transition of the hand placement that is. Longer radius turns require smoother flowing movements just as short turns require smooth but quick movements. I will use this drill this winter!
Fantastic quality of the movie and what the most important is - modern carving style. Keep making the video lessons. Great job!
@iamikeski Glad to be of use iamikeski, keep an eye out this autumn as there is a lot of new content being prepared right now... have a great summer!
Glad it's brought back some good memories.
A few days ago I came home after a 2 weeks of skiing course where I learned how to ski. Now as watching this video i want to go back in the mountain. ♥
hey great drill, a skier with a tendancy to over separate at times this will help me square up to my skis, many thanks.
Darren, your videos are superb, & your explanations wonderfully condensed. I am PSIA in the US & I can't stop watching them!!
Thank you very much glad you enjoyed the films.
I really appreciate your lessons. They are fun and insightful. Many times I'll review and practice on the mountain. You can never be too old or too experienced to learn something new. Thanks!
@nicolasphamdinh You would'nt have seen this exercise before as its somethng I experimented with whilst freeskiing without poles. I am pleased you like it, Ii is always good when other instructors give positive feedback. Have a good season, Darren
I was paying attention on how you finish the turn, how much you bend your legs when going into the turn and the position of your upper body(facing forward). Awesome form. Very helpful. I'm a beginner.
@MarketScoop Good advice certainly,try and stay on quiet runs and if you start to feel like a runaway train it may be too early for you to try and achieve turns like this. It will always help to be fit.thanks for your comments.
I love the way videos like this bring out all the armchair experts with all their technical jargon and b*ll*cks (and they are all ski racers and coaches). Good video clearly explained and nice simple style.
Darren Turner you are the best, your exercises are real gold for me , that in this video expecially! thanks
What a great tip for those that over rotate the upper body into the hill to (falsely) control speed but riding out a carved turn isn't a beginner or even intermediate skill so facing the fall line (with upper body rotation downhill) is more helpful to almost every skier.
You're the best online ski instructor, thank you for sharing your technique. Definitely getting results on the slopes and its my first season! :)
Thank you for making such clear, informative and intuitive videos/apps. I started skiing last year and purchased your apps to augment my lessons on the indoor slope. With the aid of your apps I've made rapid progress - I was even moved up to the upper intermediate class on my first ski holiday! I'm really beginning to get a feel for carving now and the effects of fore and aft positioning. I've really caught the ski bug and can't wait for my next trip. Practice makes permanent :)
Dry slopes are great for your technique, I'm sure you will have a brilliant holiday. I think the snow is very good at the moment.
@laurensne Great praise indeed,I'm glad you like the videos it really makes a difference when we get good feedback like this thank you.
Thank you glad you enjoyed it.
@Pavlee021 This lesson was filmed in Tignes, France on Piste H (the run that starts from the Aeroski and ends in Val Claret). Most of our other ski films are from Serre Chevalier in the Southern Alps of France.
@eSKape1994 Thanks for your comments guys. We do agree that helmets are advisable, and for that reason in all video that we've filmed since January 2011 Darren will be wearing a helmet, (though archive video filmed before this that we upload may feature Darren without one).
We do however also believe that it should be a matter of personal choice (except for kids!).
Excellent video. Very clear with a good self tuition technique to develop the stacked position. Extremely useful. Thanks and congratulations!
Great to hear it's inspired you to go skiing, hope you get a chance soon.
Nice and clear way to show how to ski, it's very helpful, thanks a lot.
Love all the video's. My eight year old daughter watched the carving video last year before the season and brilliantly started the year off carving! It seems as if I've been skiing forever, and I've dragged bad technique along for the ride. These videos are helping me tweak my skiing and are offering me more confidence. I still only drop into the double blacks on occasion. The fear of moguls (the final frontier) has held me back. The dreaded chutes are filled with moguls. Maybe this year I can try the moguls again. Skiing with my daughter on the blueblacks and the blacks is probably more fun than the brief ego boost a chute will give me. Oh well. Thanks. Where are these videos filmed? Rockies?
Hi Malcolm Scott Thats great to hear. Hopefully she's back on the snow and skiing again this year. We filmed the majority of our Ski School lessons in Serre Chevalier Vallée however this particular film was shot in Tignes, France. If bumps are a problem this film might help: How To Ski Bumps / Moguls - Advanced Ski Lesson #6.4
We'd love to get out to the Rockies some time. Any recommendations?
Hoping to hit Mammoth Mountain in California soon. I usually like to have her watch a video (during the summer) of what we'll be working on the upcoming year. The carving video absolutely worked wonders. She can succesfully carve down groomed blacks and has control. Now this year it's getting the pole plants fine tuned a bit. We'll need to slow it down to the greens for that. Very excited about this year. Every day is a lesson. Some storms comin' in from ther Pacific!
Great to hear Malcolm Scott. It's feedback like this that help drive us to keep making our skiing tips and lessons. We love your enthusiasm for your daughter too. In this world of digital distractions it's refreshing to hear parents getting out into the outdoors to have fun with their kids. Keep up the good work, keep it fun and keep in touch. (Bring on the storms)
Keystone and Arapaho Basin (aka A Basin). The high elevations make for good snow early and late. Large enough for lots of skiiing choices, cheaper than Vail.
@hph304 It is a very different thing if the hand is dropping and dragging the pole to what you are seeing in this video, the pole is dragging because of the angles being created as a look at some videos of races skiing specially in giant slalom.
I agree with that, and your explanations are great !
@voodoowood Skiing stacked is about being in a strong body position which applies to all skiing, including off-piste. Carving is just one component of skiing and we have series workshops introducing bumps, powder, off-piste coming soon that may interest you more.
best vid on carving so far
On my last day of my ski holiday I finally got this long turn legs together turn as I call it. But I did find it was only doable on runs that are not too steep otherwise you do go very fast like this .. for an Beginner turning intermediate, next time I hope to gain confidence skiing like this so I can go faster... !
i really enjoy these films they help me be better and are very helpful
Very good video, interesting about the stacked position. I took lessons with teachers for improving my technique, and this video is just the same...
@shadley35 Thanks shadley35! Much appreciated. This lesson will help you with your carving, but it will also help with skiing different snow conditions and off piste skiing too. Checked out your channel and saw that you're keeping up the skiing through the summer indoors, stay with it and you'll rip next winter!
You're very welcome it is a bit like riding a bike I'm sure you will remember more than you think, good luck and enjoy it.
Thanks again Darren
Glad you found them useful, have a great time in Japan.
@gmax2it Yep, Darren is a darned good instructor, he also skis OK too! Keep an eye out, much more coming this winter...
Fantastic Instructing. Thank You again.
thanks for the videos, they're great. It's autumn right now and it's good to have these reminders while i wait for the ski season haha
@KiterTMK A common misconception is that the higher the level of skier the more technical and complex the exercise has to be. This is not the case. This exercise involves timing and coordination and is regularly used with young races and trainee instructors.
That's excellent,glad to know the videos really help,thanks again.
@breathead I think we geotagged it, it was filmed in Tignes, France (the neighbouring resort to Val d'Isere) earlier this month.
As a ski racer, i see very good, advanced carving here-try not to rotate your shoulders at the very end of your turn. Doing so slightly delays initiation on your next turn and as a result you can end up with less turn shape. Remember, speed control via turn shape. Otherwise, great vid and skiing!!!
you've become my ski mentor. thanks a bunch! I think, your knowledge is essential! all others videos are poor copies of yours!
@Hans Spitsbaard , when you are carving and need to lose speed, turn slightly uphill into the piste, this way gravity will slow you down so you can keep on carving throughout the turn without having to skid
nice exercise. very helpful. also loved the notes on carving and powder. your videos are great.
@jestermoon They are spectacular,glad you liked the films.
My actual skiing movements recorded by video, compared to what i THINK i'm actually doing, can be so far apart to be a bit embarressing. It's also true that whatever new movement your doing - it's probably only about 1/2 in actuality.
Of course, if you were falling over a lot, and now, you're not or made some other improvement - then that's a great success! There are some good tips by Elatemedia and description / explanation is pretty good too. Darren (his name?) is a very good communicator.
@MrAndrewHay Hi Andrew. Darren isn't much of a freestyler, but he does rip it up off-piste. As a company we're from a mix of ski instruction, big mountain competition and freestyle backgrounds so we're definitely passionate about all aspects of skiing and are looking at all sorts of options for the future.
@hugocampkini There seems to be a lot of confusion about this point. What you are describing would be fine for a short radius turn or a turn using a lot of foot rotation at the beginning. A skier making turns similar to the ones in the film will be in a stronger position letting their torso follow the skis slightly more. It will also allow them to use their ankles and knees more to influence the path of the skis.
All your videos are great!!! very helpful!!! i have been skiing for some time now and love it and want my girlfriend to hopefully gain the same passion for it. your videos are a great tool.!!!!!
@ScubaCupid Thanks ScubaCupid, counting to the days to the ski season now, it's not far away!
off to Tignes Sunday! Just trying to remember techniques 1991 last time I went snow skiing. Dry ski slopes ever since
One of the best exercise i tried on my ski. thanks
Putting your poles like that help keep balance when you lean that far, you may see pictures on the Internet where snowboarders and skiers carve so deeply in they use their hands to stop them from hitting the snow
so awesome. makes me want to ski!! doing xc now. want to do downhill 1 more time before spring thaw in mn. weird winter this year.
@YogisAAA Thanks YogisAAA. Hope you have a great season's skiing.
@OurLucylocket When you are trying to improve your skiing it is best to stay on runs you feel comfortable with get the basics right and you will quickly find you will be skiing better. If you are intimidated you will develop bad habits enjoy your skiing
@USColt54
you are right: The smart skiers always use helmet
only exception are race-coaches who are working on a SG or DH track, they have to hear the skiers coming ;-)
I learned to ski just from these videos
@oooohla123 Well here's hoping you have a great season for snow there, nothing cooler than skiing pow through snowgums with crimson rosellas flying overhead. OK, well maybe there are a few things cooler (like skiing powder in AK), but you can't do that in N. hemisphere summer!
@mikeswbr Hi Mike, my goggles say thanks. This was filmed in early December last year so that's why it was quiet. I see you're in the UK, if you're in London come and say hi at the Ski Show this week - our stand is C12!
excellent instruction
Trucker is describing the more usual accepted drill IMO and i agree with his expanded explanation.
I agree with Julians comments also. I can see that this can work and that it may give some strength ( some stacking ) during turning, but for most, i fear it will produce upper body rotation. Get some video of your skiing, research what your meant to be doing, get some small group / 1 to 1 instruction if possible. It helps me to check my stances / movements in a long mirror for many many reasons.
@elatemedia I agree this is Tignes (France) I got to know at these barriers against the avalanche :D. This route in the distance is probably Signal or Carline
@anonimko007 If you are doing short radius turns then it is important to keep your upper body facing down the hill, if you are doing medium to long terms your body can start to follow the skis more however it should never be a case of turning the upper body to make the skis turn. Hope this helps.
@piratededition Great to hear that it helps when you get on the slopes keep watching and keep skiing thanks.
As a ski coach and previously racer, I always learned and taught that a "stacked" position is bad at high speeds. Counter-rotation (keeps shoulders down the hill) puts most of the weight on the outside ski and gives a solid stance. Just look up "GS skiing" on google images and have a look at the world's top skiers, and how their shoulders are facing the bottom as their skis are pointing across the hill. Here's a World Cup run break-down: /watch?v=56HKSJ5FN8M --->2:10 my point exactly.
Counter is good but you only want as much as is required. Shoulders are not always "down the hill" and may be only slightly down the hill or not at all sometimes. It depends on turn shape and size. During a transition your shoulders may be "square" with skis.
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I'm missing French mountains! great video thanks for putting it out there. JM, Calgary
@oooohla123 Well do that and we'll be very envious. Hope you have a great ski in Oz this winter/summer!
What I have been taught by probably the best skier at Killington, Vermont, USA is to think of your upper body as a box. Keep it quite and always facing downhill, hands forward. Rotate you ankles and hips to make your turns. Also stay loose. Think of your body as a "Noodle".