C8 Corvette vs Lexus LC 500 - Cars for Golf? - Everyday Driver Season 8
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
- The guys drive two golf-minded convertibles, the Lexus LC500 and C8 Corvette, to see who blends these worlds the best. Are these cars wasted at the country club?
00:00 - 1:58 Cars for Golf?
1:58 - 5:44 Design and Interior
5:44 - 10:03 Power and Performance
10:03 - 15:56 Handling and Ride
15:56 - Conclusions
This episode from Season 8 first Premiered on MotorTrend cable channel in 2021.
#C8 #Corvette #Lexus #LC500 #comparison
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The lexus is a luxury gt. Its not built for precision and chasing lap times. The corvette however is more of that so basically you cannot compare them. My opinion
But as it stands, the current base model c8 is more of a gt than a track car because of how it handles. The higher trims will be more track focused.
That lexus LC500 is obviously not a lap time chaser but it still a blast to drive. But then again there is a LCF coming....
I drove the LC500 at Laguna Seca. It is not a 9/10 lap time chasing car but it is good enough for a 5/10 and it is no slouch in the corners.
The Mercedes SL is the natural rival to the Lexus LC.
@@pan4632 It is a sport GT I guess, because even though there'd be sportier model coming, the chassis in the base model C8 is already tuned to accommodate the sportier version, while the Lexus is purely a GT
As many others have said, you're comparing a dedicated sports car to a luxury GT car. You're taking points off the LC500 for not being something it isn't trying to be. Normally I have nothing to complain about in your videos, but this one has that one BIG complaint over it. It's the equivalent of comparing the C8 to an STI on gravel and loose roads, then bashing the C8 for not doing it well even though it wasn't built for that.
We hear you. But we hope you noticed that we acknowledged that Lexus didn’t make LC into a Sports car. And that’s a missed opportunity. Meanwhile, the C8 can be every bit the GT that the Lexus is. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
@@EverydayDriver I wasn't expecting a reply from you guys, but I really appreciate it! I did catch that point, but I still do think it's a bit unfair to judge the LC500 as a sports car just because it's the closest Lexus has got to one. Hopefully Lexus releases an LCF that you guys could do another comparison to. Still love your guys videos as always though.
@@EverydayDriver I disagree. Lexus didn't miss an opportunity. They wanted to build an ultra-reliable, comfortable, great-sounding, breathtakingly gorgeous GT cruiser. And they succeeded spectacularly. And I'm a guy who LOVES Corvettes. 2 completely different categories of cars being compared here.
@@EverydayDriver It is NOT a missed opportunity that Lexus did what Lexus does. That's the point!!! Understand the golf comparison, but everything else is apples and oranges. Buy the C8 if you're into track numbers, buy the Lexus for driving on real roads.
@@EverydayDriver no, i think you guys are the ones missing an opportunity...take the feedback on the chin and make improvements to your 'package'.
So the GT car isn't as sporty as the mid-engined sports car...Thanks, that was extremely informative.
Yep that's about the sum of it all. I just watch to see the mullet blowing in the wind.
I remember when the $4K C2, with 460 ft-lb at 3000 lbs was criticized for being waaaaaay to heavy to called a sports car. The E-Type had just debuted a whopping 400 lbs overweight compared to the 1900lb D-Type. The C8 is a luxury cruiser, it is DOUBLE the weight of a sports car.
@@FFE-js2zp In the context of 2021, the C8's weight is pretty respectable and it's about 1000lbs less than that Lexus. Even the new sports car from Lotus - the Emira, is over 3000lbs, which should tell you how big cars have gotten.
@@georgimihalkov4781
The Emira will be 200 lbs less with the AMG engine, plus more HP and torque than the Camry Engine. 2900 pounds at 420 HP is at least respectable to accel, turn, and brake. Its not that the C8's 3900 lbs w/driver is bad, its just not a sports car any more. If the Z06 or Zora adds 500lbs of electric motors and batteries, its more of a UPS truck. It makes zero sense as a replacement for the ideally balanced 50/50, 3250 lb C7.
@@georgimihalkov4781
The appearance of the truly exotic Emira, a $60,000 racecar with better torque to weight, is another major problem for the C8. An Emira laps a C8 on the first lap.
Two very different animals for very different missions in life
The Lexus LC is here for 3 reasons: To look amazing, to sound amazing and to feel amazing
The Vette is here to handle everything else
Funny you mention that because the C8 blows the LC away in all those categories.
@@taran5767 Thanks for the ignorance
@@InvestBetter. I mean all the things you stated were extremely subjective.
dude what? the vette's looks are on par at least and it sounds amazing. much louder and visceral than the lex. The lex got a more luxurious feeling while the vette is a sportscar, that's that
Both cars placed second compared to the road in this video.
I was about to comment the EXACT same thing
Someone tell me what road this is. Im in utah and need to find where they drive
@@sgtsimplycrispy7749 It's a place called Cascade Springs. You can get to it through American Fork Canyon, Provo Canyon through the Alpine Loop, or you can go through Park City/Heber/Midway. They repaved the road as well as extended what used to be a dirt section through to Midway. It's really nice but its hard to drive safely and spirited with how many people are driving as slow as possible. I probably shouldn't be sharing one of my favorite places but oh well.
Virgin tarmac.
Yes agreed. The review though came in, in an appalling third.
You guys started by stating "Cars for Golf" but none of your list points describing that. Steering feel, hugging the corner, ... So, I think this whole review is just bs
It was a good review…it would have been nice to at least throw a set of clubs in the rear - just to make the point.
@@mebeingU2 or Front :-) - Isn't the Corvette trunk in the front?
Typical Americans
The LC blows away the C8 interior. It's not even close.
I agree a 100%, I own a LC500 and the interior of similar priced vehicles don't even come close. I have been in the new Corvette and was instantly turned off by the quality of the interior.
If you like complex infotainment. Oh, are you taking about the materials?
I agree with u but, The LC is luxury brand ....This is a first generation c8 ...as time move on,GM will redesign it in the near future.....I don’t like the rear headlights and AC manual things
No it doesnt, simply by the fact that too many things are managed by the worst infotainment in the business. Not to mention the shrek ears above the gauges.
Yea, the Lexus is like an Armani suit and the corvette like jersey. I cringed when they said the interior materials are not better than corvette. The difference in quality and the way everything is put together is night and day. Super biased review.
Pointless comparison. The Lexus is a GT car. You guys picked the wrong road and the wrong opponent for it.
7:14-7:30…I couldn’t disagree more. There is a huge segment of drivers that can afford the Lexus that likely disagrees with your sentiment here. In fact, the driver that buys this Lexus, is who Lexus IS building this car for…refined, comfortable, easy, yet powerful when you get into it…done perfectly.
Everything you want about the Lexus... until it faces a Chevy Corvette.
@@waltermeono5253 nobody buys a lexus to race ppl plus chevys are shit
My issue is that they could have or should have (and maybe will in coming years) increased power and performance for the LC500. I would expect for what you pay, that Lexus would put forth a better effort to compete with it's intended competition (BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, etc.).
you're getting the lexus for the comfy interior and ride, not track numbers. If you really wanted to track the RCF exists
Appreciate the review. The car is beautiful. As for the trackpad, no ADULT who owns an LC 500 uses the trackpad very much. ADULTS read the OWNER'S MANUAL and learn about VOICE COMMAND. Then, the first thing they do is run MENU/SETUP and select all their default personal preferences which takes care of 95% of EVERYTHING. Using VOICE COMMAND, they simply press a button on the left side of the steering wheel, wait for the BEEP and then TELL THE CAR WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. No trackpad involved! For instance: "press button, say "radio", say "AM 760" and the radio goes to that station. Or, press button, "say FIND, say PIZZAHUT and you get several choices, say the CHOICE NUMBER" and your GPS will guide you there. So, maybe in the future this reviewer will take 30 minutes and become familiar with the Owner's Manual so he doesn't relay false information to his audience? These are the best cars produced today but...isn't it nice to have a choice??? But, to the point of your video comparing the two cars...you can't. The Corvette is an Exotic Lamborghini Wannabe and the Lexus is a GT. The Corvette, inside and outside, is busy, busy, busy. Those people who love scoops, buttons, wings, spoilers, carbon fiber, neurotic body styling and sheer speed get to choose the C8. Those people who just want a very reliable, classy, beautiful car can select the LC. There is no wrong or right, better or worse. Chevrolet absolutely produced a car for a certain type of person and that's a good thing. The quality is superb. But, it's really not "Corvette-ish", is it? It is a great car, but you'd never know it was a Corvette if all the badging was gone and nobody told you what it was. You would think the Italians made it...100%. I've had my 1969 427/435 L-71 Corvette since 1970. It's A CORVETTE and there is no question about it. Anyone who sees it knows what it is. I've also got a 2018 LC 500, a completely different kind of car and I love it. They are both cars but totally different. I don't spend time comparing or thinking about the differences. Enjoying both for what they are is the best way to spend my time. As for ever buying a C8...probably not. I'm almost at the point in my life where driving will be a thing of the past. However, if I were younger, the C8 would be on the list but if had to choose only one, it would be the Lexus LC 500.
Exactly. Like also like anyone who buys a Lexus could not care less about being 3 seconds faster than someone else, especially if the interior of that 3 second faster car feels like plastic and creaks. It blows my mind when I have friends who seriously will scoff at my Lexus but then love my old interior that is almost 2 decades old and feels better than their more expensive car. Or the fact that it lasts that long. When I was talking to people about how nice my grandmas new Lexus was and how I’d like to have a new one one day they scoffed at that idea and asked why I didn’t want something different. Maybe it’s just class and better tastes. Where they’d trade off a perfect interior for dumb numbers on a graph that they will never use. I will even have people I know buy a brand new hundai luxury plus what ever and then I get in it and internally feel odd because it feels like crap. Where the 4 year old Lexus es that cost 5k less like my grandmas will gap their car and feel better while doing so. Let alone last longer.
I do not know, but I have not noticed this two “geniuses” to drive “sports cars”…. Have you noticed, they both drive like old farts, sorry - old ladies!!! Any of those two cars can be driven 2-3times faster on that beautiful twisty road with an otstanding visibility to the curves and with outstanding quality of the asfalt of the road…. But both of them woud not stop yapping about how this is lighter or weights too much….
Guys, have you ever been to even minor car accident? You certainly haven’t! You would know the weight MATTERS A LOT! And please, try to imagine, what would be left of any of you and that “fiberglass/carbon” body Vette, if you just accidentaly graze just normal car made of metal…. Just imagine - you both live in the country of “feather weight SUVs” - so just try to imagine a very light encounter of any of these two cars with whatever SUV… Where would you rather be seated? In Lexus or in light Vette with the engine behind your back???? How would THAT have finisher? Where and how would you end up???
Thank for your consideration….
LC is simply timeless!
Unreasonable expectations for the Lexus. They used "cars for golf" in a an attempt to justify this stupid comparison.
I see two sporty convertibles. What do you see?
@@krane15 I see a targa top, mid rear engine sports car and a convertible cruiser. Then again, I’m an enthusiast. Our eyes are not the same.
I see a highly refined Grand Touring Car being compared to the mid-engine sports car. There should never be a comparison between the two, you may as well compare a sedan DeVille to a Fiat Spider
its fair game being that the lexus costs as much as a z06. If the lexus costs 50k than yeah you could say its a "stupid comparison"
Honestly this is a horrendous review in many respects. The video shots, scenery and roads are amazing though. I have driven the LC500 at length and pushed very hard and it is an extremely capable road car - not track car obviously. The engine and transmission are perfectly matched; the exhaust sound/induction noise is heavenly and the car provides a really fun driving experience. Please watch reviews by Matt Farah and Savageese to get accurate take on how awesome the LC500 is.
The C8 is a great value for what it is but the engine is uninspiring, the DCT is OK, and the while the platform is more capable than the LC500 as its mid engined and weighs less - its not as direct/precise at the limits compared to pure sports cars like a 911.
I don’t think I would own a C8 right now.
But the platform has a lot of potential and I really can’t wait to see what the Z06 is like. I may grab that if it’s more focused than the stingray.
In this spec, we wouldn't claim the C8 is a track car any more than the LC500. The 911 would be better than both of these at the limit - we completely agree. As this was a road test with a half joking element about their golfing potential, we're sorry it didn't connect for you. Thanks for watching.
@@EverydayDriver notice how you said “in this spec” completely giving up the validation of your point, and furthermore proving everyone’s point more.
Yall complain too much its 60k how much you expect at that price jeez
@@lancesingleton3700 I was hoping for a car that was slightly more focused on being a sports car and less on being a GT. But I’m content to wait to see future variants. I’m hoping the Z06 will be the one I want.
Lexus knows their customers.
old people? Except that not even they bought the Lexus. It’s got the worst depreciation of any Lexus in modern history and the worst sales numbers.
@@DrSteveJ-gd3gn My Inspiration series convertible has APPRECIATED over $50K since purchased Feb 2021. No depreciation here.
@@DrSteveJ-gd3gn What do you consider old? Love my LC500 and still young.
@@DrSteveJ-gd3gn Uh, the only people I see driving a C8 are gentleman that have gone way past their midlife, one of them being our production manager who's nearly 70
@@asifalimirza
Look at the demographics. Lexus has the oldest demographic as does the LC. Pick up a text book.
comparing 2 very different cars using metrics that benefits one over another is bound to be a failure in objective comparison. Lexus is a better car for the golf crowd because those folks aren't tracking their cars. The lexus is a much better looking car... yes it's my opinion. (an opinion like this entire video comparison)
The lexus is better looking car, better built quality, more solid frame, more reliable, better sounding, more comfortable... so yeah, if I'm getting a car in this class I don't need a car that's worse in every other way but better at landing me a speeding ticket.
Now if I want a good handling car, I'll get a porsche. If I want a good 0-60 straight line car, I 'll get a tesla. If I want a comfortable cruiser that's balanced and great in every respect that's important... is there another car under 150k that's better than the LC500?
yes the C8
@@miked.7722 in terms of number of trips to the shop yes.
Tesla is another manufacturer that produces some of the least reliable vehicles in the US. It ranks second to last with Lincoln being in last place.
The top three according to Consumer Reports are:
1. Lexus
2. Mazda
3. Toyota
Yes, why take a GT car (Lexus) and measured it by sports car expectations? You guys think everything is a nail?
Most C8 owners, as with most sportscar owners, aren't tracking their car or remotely competent with any level of high performance driving, let alone have their HPDE4. To be clear, the overwhelming majority of C8 owners will step on the gas in a straight line on the highway, goose it from a redlight, and maybe push 30-40mph on a turn if they are feeling gutsy. They have no idea how to countersteer or control the car with traction control off. My point is this- most sportscar owners live under the delusion that they can control or handle the car when they in fact can't. They'd be better off in something with a good bit of power that rides much better and has superior build quality and materials, but again, that doesn't fit their delusion so they act like they're enjoying themselves getting slammed in the ass by every bump and wet cigarette butt on the road while staring at a cheap chinese GM interior and praying that their transmission doesn't explode.
What a beautiful machines. I'm team Corvette a thousand times, but in this one Lexus conquered my heart.
The Lexus is a masterpiece, the Corvette is just... Cheap American garbage
@@RagingBad Corvette is nice but the interior and ride quality just is a tier below the Lexus.
This channel is like a 1980s car magazine brought to video. It's still decades behind most everything else on UA-cam.
As mentioned in the description, this came out last year on TV and has been on Amazon Prime since. We are in the process of catching up on back episodes to get our UA-cam releases here faster. Thanks for watching!
I'll take the slower Lexus a million times
I'd take the c8. Better driving experience. C8 has plenty of luxury.
@@jakefromsnakefarm9446 lexus are more reliable tho
@@noice6533 The Lexus infotaiment would drive me crazy every single day and is the only reason, why i wouldn`t be this car. I made a 2 hour test drive here in the Munich region and loved the GT driving experience of the car though. The engine sound alone is worth the price. But they need to get rid of that BS infotaiment as soon as possible in every car, that still has it..
@@scottipippen6554 I though people just use apple or Android auto? Who sits around playing with infotainment?
@@Pepe-dq2ib and the seat heating control?
Well the Lexus is a much more refined vehicle but then again it cost about $15-$20,000 more. I don’t think these are two cars that should be compared though. I am a Lexus guy. I own a Lexus and I love the LC 500 convertible.
But I think we’re comparing apples to peaches here… I bought the C8 for the same reason both reviewer‘s picked it. It’s a true sports car with more power, road feel, incredible acceleration, and if you haven’t checked one out the quality of the interior is amazing. No it’s not a Lexus but then again few cars are.
1) So, where was the golf clubs demo? A bit silly to not show how each could accommodate a bag after you made such a big deal about it.
2) The corvette does not look like a corvette.
3) It’s true. At a golf course I parked next to some guys standing around a Z BMW sports car in my Mercedes SLK and pulled out my clubs from the boot. The SLK has two sculpted cutouts just for this purpose. The owner of the BMW said he was immediately getting an SLK.
I'd be curious about how well the Corvette interior holds up over the years. The leather seats in older Corvettes I've looked at were pretty well worn out.
Corvette interior has always been crap. No comparison to Lexus.
The LC500 convertible is simply the best looking drop top ever.
Wrong.
Still, looks better as a coupe.
Not even close Timmy.
This man has never heard of an E- Type, Huracan Spyder, or classic alfa
@@KCMrecordings do I think the e-tyoe sypder looks good? Yes but not overall. Its a unique design, supercar with sharpe angles. The lc500 is a more traditional vehicle with a drop top. Looks way more refined and sexy.
This whole video must have been a Chevy paid ad for Corvette. The LC is amazing, a way better car than the Vette. Sure the Vette wins on the track, but the LC wins on the road with real world day-to-day driving.
We hope you've had the chance drive both. And no car manufacturer pays any journalist as far as we know. We've certainly never gotten paid by any car maker. Thanks for watching.
the c8 and the z06 are supercars. You can't say that about the lexus. Its a luxury cruiser. What would you rather own a super car or a nice luxury car?
This video should get more thumbs down. One is unreliable Chevy and the other one a Lexus.
Amazing work. Your content keeps getting better and better. If it wasn't for this video. I would have never thought about how different these two machines are. I appreciate the detailed information you guys provide. Outstanding work, guys. Thank you
I can fit several golf bags in my subaru outback. Just saying.
Don't forget, you can fit several ladies too, and their gear, and not just one! Granted, those coupes entice a different type of lady.
You should try and turn it into a convertible.
Lol 😆 lol 😆 hilarious. Love it.
Keep enjoying it
I was about to say: I don’t golf but I transported a buddy and his clubs in my FRS. Then spent the day drinking at the club’s bar.
Please give me the Lexus, there are no canyons or particularly interesting driving roads around here in Central Florida+ it's more low-key.
Awesome as ALWAYS! Loved it!
This is honestly one of the weirdest comparisons I've ever seen.. The Lexus is a luxury GT cruiser, while the Chevy is a mid-engined sports car that happens to be a convertible. This whole review had nothing to do with 'golf-minded convertibles' nor was it objective at all. As someone who likes to golf and go to the track, a better comparison for a 'golf-minded convertible' would be the 8 series convertible or AMG GTC. I would personally never cross shop the C8 with the LC500 in the first place. I don't know about you, but the LC500 interior quality blows away the C8's interior, there's just no contest.
I feel Lexus is built to enjoy for many years without any major problems, cannot say the same for the Corvette.
"In this episode, we find another way to expense driving a C8 through the mountains all weekend." I've never put golf clubs in my C6, but it fits 6' cedar planks quite nicely.
Landscape is stunning 🤩
Thanks guys, great video
The Roads and the Vistas you guys drive on are always breathe taking.
I'm convinced that the Corvette will become a car I will buy in a couple years. For now, I will enjoy my LC convertible, a perfectly beautiful and competent GT. It is a car I am planning to keep......along with my 66 U13 Bronco Roadster which can carry a half dozen golf bags with ease : )
I love both cars but I'm a little confused. I thought this video is a comparison to see which one is the better Golf car so with that I would expect the comparison to be based on where and how a typical golfer would drive it, not on a windy open road to it's limits. Oh yeah, I would also expect to see how each car would actually carry a set of golf clubs. Instead, all you talked about is how well each one behaves when pushed through the corners on a beautiful windy flowy stretch of open road and not a single golf bag in sight.
exactly what i was thinking about!
Love the video! Awesome as always! I haven't driven that Lexus, but the C8 also didn't feel very communicative in the steering, which you sort of mention for the Lexus, but not the C8. Maybe it's just because they're back to back and it's better than the Lexus is in those terms. I also found that the DCT was pretty jerky at low speeds, which could make it a problem for your golf runs, and might actually make the auto in the Lexus better for that. Also, I kept trying to jab the floorboard every time I came to a stop, but I know that the manual isn't coming and that's more of a me issue at this point.
Hi. Golf and car enthusiast here. Part of the fun of a golf day or weekend is driving great roads on the way to the course with the sun and a smile on your face. Just got back from a trip where multiple convertibles were driven, all with golf bags in the trunk.
The Golf is one of one. The Lexus and Corvette are one of two, or three, etc.
@@krane15 perhaps you misinterpreted? Golf the sport, not the car…
@@jasonwagenmaker2295 Indeed.
The thing is, most people buy a sports car and barely utilize its capability. They act like it matters, they talk like it matters, they shop for cars as if it matters, but then they buy the car and they drive to work and back (or golf and back) on nice days and the most sporty they get is when they floor it at a light or they rev it a bit. The Lexus can do that just fine. The Lexus is sporty enough to be fun for what 95% of people will actually do. If you ignore the aspects of sportiness that 95% of people will barely ever notice or care about (except when they're originally shopping for the car) then what matters is everything else. That's where the Lexus is just an amazing car. It's stunning, and its special. The Corvette is a better sports car, but it's not especially cool or special and if anything it's going to be less cool and less special over time as the novelty of a mid engine corvette wears off. The LC500 is a future classic with (I suspect) very low production numbers but relatively amazing reliability.
What matters are ride and functionality. The MRC on the C8 is superior in both. Speaking of functionality have you ever tried to use the Lexus infotainment and UI system? It's hands down the worst in the industry and routing commonly used functions through it is a frustrating experience. As for "cool and special", how many songs are written about Corvettes or mention them? How many pop culture phrases? Now how many for Lexus? The truth is there is only one cool and special Lexus and you can't get it unless you are willing to shell out nearly 7 figures for it. The C8 however is attainable and yet highly sought after and like all Corvettes will have a special place in the market.
Same thing for most Raptors and Wranglers.
The jaw dropping scenery really stole the show in this video.
I kept forgetting to listen to the car review.
The background music in this video is fantastic and fitting - great job guys.
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you!
Best channel for people who love to drive. The verbal editorials are unmatched.
Glad you enjoy what we do. Thanks for watching!
No, no......NOOOOO!!!
It feels like they are bias more to the Corvette even though there aren't meant to really compete with each other.
Convertible sports cars.
@@krane15 both convertibles, yes, both sportscars- absolutely not. The LC500 is a luxury GT. It doesn't have a stiff suspension, it's heavy as hell, it's not a track car, and it's average speed for a luxury GT. It's made for comfort and cruising, not hard turns and heavy acceleration. Most people/non-die hards would not want to daily drive the C8- the suspension is just too stiff (sportsmode off is barely noticeable with the dampers), whereas the LC500 rides quite smoothly. That said, Lexus infotainment sucks until they release Lexus Interface and the C8 has a low quality interior with poor button layout and shifter design (also has drivetrain issues). If price wasn't an issue and it comes down to having just one car, the majority would definitely prefer driving the LC500 after having spent significant time in both.
I love both of them, and would require a good test drive in both in order to make up my mind. But that new Vette reminds me of a Ferrari. So aggressive looking.
If possible can you guys include the locations in which these episodes were shot at? Really appreciate the videos guys keep up the great work!
As usual, great review and I agree that stinking golf has to get rid of in near future on car design.
I drove my buddy's c8.fast and great handling but boring. Guys at work think I'm crazy but after driving for an hour it just did not make me want it. I liked driving his zl1 Camaro way more.
Not at all surprising.
I've tracked both, and own the C8 and the Cadillac ATS-V which shares the same Alpha chassis at the Camaro. The thing about them is this. It's very easy to get addicted by the ZL1's raw power output as it seems to always be there and ready with absolute unsafe levels of torque. The Alpha chassis itself is probably one of if not the best for a sedan or coupe in the last decade. You feel what the car is doing, it rides exceptionally well across all variants. and on a roll the ATS-V is nearly dead even up to 90 where the C8 starts to pull away. The C8 however on the track is just a different level. From a standstill it's hard to beat with a proper launch. It really changes personality between modes, there is no emulation that doesn't make a difference like with some cars when you switch them from touring to sport. I can see how the C8 might seem a little boring or vague in tour mode but sport or track mode is such a wide difference and anything but boring in my opinion.
but honestly, driving the ZL1 or C8 could you really go wrong in preferring one over the other?
I've tracked both, and own the C8 and the Cadillac ATS-V which shares the same Alpha chassis at the Camaro. The thing about them is this. It's very easy to get addicted by the ZL1's raw power output as it seems to always be there and ready with absolute unsafe levels of torque. The Alpha chassis itself is probably one of if not the best for a sedan or coupe in the last decade. You feel what the car is doing, it rides exceptionally well across all variants. and on a roll the ATS-V is nearly dead even up to 90 where the C8 starts to pull away. The C8 however on the track is just a different level. From a standstill it's hard to beat with a proper launch. It really changes personality between modes, there is no emulation that doesn't make a difference like with some cars when you switch them from touring to sport. I can see how the C8 might seem a little boring or vague in tour mode but sport or track mode is such a wide difference and anything but boring in my opinion.
but honestly, driving the ZL1 or C8 could you really go wrong in preferring one over the other?
you can say that about all base model / z51 corvettes. truthfully they are all lacking in something with the capability to get there with suspension tires brakes. and if you want more power.
I will say i put money on it that the c8 will be slower around the ring than the 6th gen zl1. so it isnt a surprise. now for the z06 whenever that comes out get ready
@@rickgollwitzer5989 the best time so far unofficially is 7:24 with an official time of 7:29. That averages to 8-10 seconds slower than the ZL1
What would you rather, a 2012 LFA or a 2012 Corvette? A mid 90s Supra or a mid 90s corvette? Corvettes are cool in the present because they are cheap. But in a few years you end up with is a cheap car when the newness wears off. The LC500 is something special.
Rather have a 2020 c8 than a 2020 Supra
Thank you gentlemen. THIS is the video that changed my mind and made caused me to change my C8 order to the HTC. The convertible is fantastic. Z51, mag ride, 2Lt. A very good car, in my opinion. Thanks!
The truth is you can’t go wrong with either one , I love both and keep going back and forth on which one to get in the near future.
Damn...what a view to drop your top and drive in. Mmmm...such enjoyment! On that note...i'd take the Lexus for the timeless style that'll become a classic & the sound of that V8!
Corvette just looks like a knock-off Ferrari. Tacky.
These are 2 cars I will buy used in like 2-3 years. Both amazing. One gives you a super car look and the other gives you a fancy GT look. One is more like a budget Hurracan and the other a budget Aston Martin
The prices seem off though. Chevy website says the convertible starts at 90 so with 18,000 in options that would put this car at 108k compared to the Lexus 111k
What’s up with the price?
90+18=108
@@ChaseBond11 you are right. Updated
Beautiful road you guys used, it's 9:39pm and wet out, and I still feel like hitting some twisties going through gears right now... But I won't 🥲 lol
I tend to agree, the two are from different classes. Lexus should be compared with a similarly priced six-series convertible. But in all cases let's be honest you should test the Coupes. I am a little obsessive about the right car for the right job. Seven for the track, Elise for mountains, TVR for touring the long way round, coupe for covering miles and a little fun, big saloon for motorway, Hilux for off-road. If you don't buy new, and look for cars with real feel (which are generally older) you would be surprised how many cars you can accumulate.
These cars are nice… but the scenery is spectacular 👌
That Lexus IS so Effin sexy. I can’t breathe
This is a no brainer! The Corvette for any occasion!
Does anybody know what road they filmed this on? Looks beautiful
I have to agree with most of the comments below or above, however this shows up, These are two completely different experiences; having just purchased a 2020 LC 500 I can tell you I would never compare this car to a Corvette or any Corvette that claims to be a GT car, they simply are not chasing the same end game IMHO. And for what it's worth I can actually fit my entire golf bag in the trunk of my LC, if I take my driver out 1st!
The Lexus is really a personal luxury car with the performance of a GT. The Corvette can be a fantastic GT car and certainly would be the most exciting of the two in terms of performance and handling. The Lexus excels at looking good, being luxurious, and is fast enough to keep things interesting.
Where in Utah do you guys film your driving? It is gorgeous there .
I am loving my 2021 C8 convertible!!
Ahem, some of the Everyday Driver staff likes hooning the lexus a BIT more lol
For everyday driving the Lexus LC500 my choice. I just want to be seen in it it’s beautiful and the hear the engine. The vette I wouldn’t want to drive it daily.
“Toyota4Life” chose the Lexus, guys. We’re all shocked.
The LC looks a lot like the LFA and the LFA still looks very modern. If you threw some new light modules in an LFA and I'd think it just rolled out of the factory.
The Vette looks amazing as well.
"Golf Club" cars, airplane standards, and accessories are really important to me. I am a fencer and swords fit the same spec. I would imagine their are alot of hobbies that appreciate this standard. Outdoor hobbies probably have alot of crossover with people that love convertibles too.
These 2 cars do not have the same mission or audience, in my opinion, so they shuldn't be compared. The LC500 is for comfortable/sporty touring and the C8 is for all out performance oriented driving. Personally, I prefer the LC500, overall, but I wouldn't turn down a C8 if someone wanted to give me one :D
We hear you, but we’ve said many times on our podcast that the older buyer who goes after the Corvette is probably actually looking for what the LC500 provides. Also, we don’t think of this base Corvette as the driving focused version… it’s a very competitive grand tourer… the same segment where the LC resides. Thanks for watching!
The Lexus is just under 4560 pounds? WtF. A Dodge Charger Hellcat WIDEBODY is just under 4590. That weight for a convertible is weird/scary/confusing to me...
buuut its NOT a widebody as adding little fender flares doesnt make a car a widebody.
@@gloriousrunningpotato Regardless of how you feel about the Hellcat and the terminology that everyone uses for the wider version... My point is that a full size four door SEDAN with fender flares/widebody is almost exact same weight and that's weird to me. I drove a 2003.5 MazdaSpeed Protege for 10 years then traded it in for a 2013 MazdaSpeed3 then traded that for my 2020 Charger R/T last year. I've seen that widebody in person and it's HUGE!! To know that a two seater weighs the same as THAT monster?! Mind boggling!!
The charger uses a chassis architecture from a 1990’s Mercedes e-class while the LC500 is based off the LS 500. The amount of structure adhesives and use of high strength steels in the lexus makes it that very stiff but very heavy. Lexus says the chassis on the LC is even stiffer that the carbon space frame from the LFA, that is wiiiiild.
The first car I started drooling over was the lc500, and I saw this video but ignored it because I thought the two cars were designed for different people. Now I’m drooling over the corvette, and here I am haha. Haven’t finished the video but thanks in advance
P.s. not a golfer
I feel like I might be the only person in the world who can't think of crossplane V8's as sportscar engines. To me, it fits perfectly that Lexus (maybe revving a bit lower) because it doesn't inspire misbehaviour to me; sounds much more like a relaxed, low-stress cruising engine. I'd have the Lexus for that. The Corvette, on the other hand... I think it would be the PERFECT supercar if it had a 3.5 - 4.0 litre version of nowadays Z06. A screaming flatplane V8 does sound like misbehaviour. Thanks for yet another marvelous video, guys!
Where is this amazing road?
Cascade Springs Scenic Drive near Midway, Utah I believe.
If you have the money for either of these cars, you probably play golf 🤷♂️
Ha! I have the coupe. You couldn’t pay me to go to a golf course.
We picked up our 2023 C8 HTC non Z51 magnetic ride, front lift, performance exhaust, front splitter, low profile spoiler, and lots of carbon flash painted highlights with the Arctic White paint. We put over 2,200 miles on it in 2 months before we had to park it for the winter because of my emergency hip surgery. It’s the best vehicle I’ve ever driven in my 62 years of driving experience. It does everything extremely well.
Would a "Putting golf clubs in" test have been too Top Gear? ... For that matter a "Do you spill your latte launching from a stop light" test would also be super relevant. ... But kudos to episode concept, golf + sportscar is a very compelling topic
I am astounded by the quality of the work you guys produce! The production quality is world class, the scenery is breathtaking and your commentary on the cars you review is first rate even when I may disagree with your outcomes! I always look forward to your videos, TV programming and podcasts. Keep up the great work and thank you for your efforts to give your followers such amazing content!
"The materials don't feel any better than the Corvette" uhhhh what? if you think that the Corvette interior is made with as good of materials and will last as long as the LC... The vet is amazing but it's not magic, its a GM where all the money went into performance.
Lol...they don't know quality
being both new you cant feel reliability you can't see the wear items. I agree but i can say the new corvette is done very very nicey but give it 5-10 years and the c8 will be another corvette and the lc500 will be special. and still feeling great. it was made with very good / great materials but it wasnt made with high quality lexus material however both are too new to tell a major difference. brand new the c5 wasnt as squeaky as it is now
@@rickgollwitzer5989 5-10 years the corvette c8 will be a bargain performance mid engine car while lexus will be another generic old man sedan by toyota
@@religionofpeace3244 this is true but i think the lc500 will still be a special car i dont believe it will become a cheap cheap lexus like the es or other models. that will be the RC / basically the same thing
LOL, you keep saying the Lexus is a sports car. Its a GT, and Lexus has never promoted it as anything but. The C8 is mid engine sports car.
Better comparison would have been the C8 vs. NSX. Two mid engine cars with different technology. Now that would have been a worthy video to watch.
Great reviews. Understand you both don’t play golf, so fitting clubs is a foreign concept…However, both of you ski and mountain bike. Think of it in the same terms…I’m sure you probably needed to figure out, “how do I get my skis to the mountain,” or “Where do I put my bike.” Same concept…except with golf clubs! Or, another way to think about it…why does the 911 and the LC500 have “back seats?” That’s more perplexing then where do clubs go. That said, I’d buy neither. Neither can fit the accompanying push cart that many golfers use (including myself), unless they can fit in the pseudo back seat of the Lexus. My Porsche Boxster was ideal. Clubs fit in the trunk and a Clik Gear push cart easily fit in the frunk. Plus, it’s a blast to drive! That car is the ideal golf car…
The LC500 is more awesome and special.
Get help
@@AmericanBusinessman422 no thanks but since you are merican you probably should.
If it was my money, I would not bother even testing that C8. I'd just show up at a Lexus dealership with my golf clubs.
And comparing sports cars to GT cars and complaining about handling differences and weight is stupid. My two cents...
The weight difference with the LC500 is due to higher quality materials. I’ll take the Lexus 100 times over. Speed doesn’t equal better. Quality & balance does.
I almost didn’t buy a cayman GTS but found that if you remove driver and woods the bag fits in the rear with driver on the upper deck.
I would take the lexus all day every day
Hey guys. See if you can get your hands on a lotus evora 400. Would love to see you guys make a few videos comparing the 400 vs the evora s vs Todd's Elise.
Funny you mention this, we just filmed an Evora GT for TV last week. It’ll air on the Motor Trend Network sometime in August I think.
Someone should buy the crew that resurfaced that road a bunch of beers, I can’t remember how long it has been since I’ve seen a road that smooth, let alone driven on one! 😂
Man where are these roads? I would love to take a long drive like that
well, technically one COULD look at that corvette convertible when contemplating the purchase of the LC500 but it would only take one look. with that wing and those batmobile head rests? once would be quite enough, i would think, for anyone that found the lexus attractive. :)
to be fair 'vette lovers, IMO, would have some scathing things to say about the looks of the lexus too.
BTW, i stuffed my full set of clubs on the package tray behind the seats on my 2007 cayman the other day and went to the range where i punished a bucket of balls, my clubs, the mat and the aesthetic senses of those around me for about an hour the other day. many would think you couldn't get them in there, but i did.
Yes, the Vette looks like a childish boy-racer next to the classy, composed Lexus... These cars are just a bit too different in their pursuits. The 'They both can carry golf bags' argument is tenuous at best...
deep menu settings for simple functions are moronic.
Anybody else notice the road!? Maybe it's just because I'm in California and used to all of our roads being in a constant state of disrepair but, I noticed... Not only does that piece of road have some gorgeous curves in it but the asphalt is in nearly flawless condition!
For this shoot we happened to be on this road about a month after it was completely resurfaced. It’s a high mountain road so it will get bad again , but his was about as perfect as it gets! Thanks for watching.
Hi guys. I like this channel, but you kinda missed the point about the LC500. It's a big, comfortable, very high quality GT cruiser with a superb engine. The C8 is a sports car. Ergo, whatever verbal gymnastics you dream up, they are not and were not ever designed to compete with each other. Also, suggesting the C8 has a similar interior quality to the LC is a little laughable.
GM had wide reaching goals with the C8 (arguably too broad) but definitely wanted it to be a GT car. And, as stated, both manufacturers publicly target golfing as an activity they expected their buyers to do. But ultimately, we appreciate that you generally like our work and hope you’ve driven both these cars. Thanks for watching!
When you factor in reliability and resale value, the Lexus leaves the Vette in it's rear-view mirror.
I'm counting on the price drop so I can actually get a C8 at its original selling price of 60k with all the bells and whistles (also shipped to Europe where I live because at this point, it will be faster to wait for the price drop then them releasing it here) 😂😂
@@saltyfloridaman7163 sorry, research is your friend. Good luck with your vette though.
@@saltyfloridaman7163 first of all, using the current used market as a gauge is ludicrous. Secondly, how are those used vette interiors holding up? GM reliability is nowhere near Lexus unless you're reading corvette forums. How much is a clutch job on a C5? How about those C3 and C4 dashes? How many could put 100K on them without major electrical issues? And finally, how many corvettes will be made compared to the number of LC500's? I like the corvettes, but the LC500 will bring a far better ownership experience over the long-term
@@blaster915 Yeah same here, the Vette I want (2LT Z51 with the front-lift) is about ~75k MSRP, but I need to wait for the price drop because right now that model is ~100k by me.
@@saltyfloridaman7163 obviously based on your stupid response, you have never personally owned a Corvette OR a Lexus.
This review really feels like you were payed off by Chevrolet. Your assessment of the LC is really at odds with the consensus, and you gloss over the flaws of living with a corvette like you have chevy branded on your butt cheeks.
Ted I was thinking the same. Couldn't be more biased and more a waste of time on this video. Both cars are amazing, but shouldn't be compared to start with. Smh
Those roads look brand new!
I think it would have been good to comment on the fac that the road looked brand new and completely bump free. Few of us drive on roads like that very often, and understanding what a few bumps on straights and corners would do to these cars would be helpful.
BTW, do you and all other UA-cam road testers pay $ to close the roads for these tests? Could you shoot these videos with other cars sharing the road--despite the visual pollution--or does the law require you to close the road and pay the cops to give you exclusivity? How much does that cost??
I appreciate the comparison. It came down to these two cars for me and I chose to place my deposit for the 2024 LC500 Convertible over an LT3 C8 Convertible. It came down to three reasons:
1. You can expect a Camaro or Cobalt level of customer service and care at Chevy. It reminded me of older complaints when people were buying $100k Nissan GT-Rs only to realize that they're getting Sentra levels of customer service. The clientele and agents that serve the clientele are just not worthy or equipped to service customers purchasing $100k vehicles. You'd actually get better customer service owning a $60k 718 Porsche Cayman than a $100k Corvette.
2. The C8 is sporty but the design looks to be rather immature. It's not what you'd call a beautiful car. A bad ass-car, sure, but not pretty. In Star Wars terms, the C8 is an X-Wing, and the LC500 is a Naboo fighter (the yellow starfighters). The LC has a maturity about it that makes you feel bad ass with the engine sound. The C8 is a bad ass car that lacks maturity. Where I am in life, I want more of a James Bond experience than a Roman Pearce from Fast and the Furious kind of experience.
3. The rear seats. This one's weird because half the reviews say they're good and the other half say they're useless. What I do know is that I can have a toddler seat back there and boom, all of a sudden the LC500 is a classy family car, and now the wife's onboard!
While I appreciate the comparison, I don't think the criteria considered was right. If you're going to use golf as the metric, talk about the cup holders, the service quality, the build quality (I'm hearing several horror stories on FB threads concerning the C8), the fact that there are only a few thousand LCs in the U.S., but everyone and their moms seem to have a C8 now, the comfort, the A/C, not pointing the car in sharp corners-if that were the goal then a Porsche 911 would be a better candidate.
This is a no brainer. The Lexus is one of the most beautiful cars available today…at ANY price. The Corvette looks pretty good. My biggest decision would be LC500 in coupe or in convertible form. I have no idea how I would decide…
Should have compared the LC 500 coup that is 200lbs lighter and has rear wheel steering and variable ratio steering. It’s much nimbler than the convertible.
Regarding the production of this episode, the post credit scene commentary...very cool as it was a fantastic transition as the screen faded to black.
Lexus is rolling art, the other car.....blah
Why these guys don’t get more views? they are making high production videos, putting their souls into this and gain only a fraction of the views of a guy talking about quirks and features for half an hour using his cellphone. The world isn’t fair.
UA-cam has never been fair. But we greatly appreciate your compliments and support. Thank you for watching!
@@EverydayDriver Two words: Bikini thumbnails
Because they make bullshit comparison like this
@@simeonspence1953 Most of their comparisons are really good and interesting, even this comparison isn't bad, some people don't know thoroughly what is the LC500 or the C8, every word they said about those cars is correct.
Titles that don't explain what the video is really going to be about. I just stumbled on this channel recently but have started 10-15 video's and gave up on most after 5-10 min because they weren't what the title said they were going to be. Their commentary and reviews of the actual cars is absolutely top notch and interesting but I'm feeling like I'm not getting what I expected from the videos often in terms of the cars being compared.
For me, the lexus is for the rich grandfather thats always had nice things and just wants a v8 convertible that is reliable. The corvette is the dad who has waited till all the kids are out of college and can finally say, "I am getting this and no one will tell me NO"
Todd, I love what you did with the music as you were building up the lexus engine only to let it face plant
EDIT: Guys, this may sound crazy, but I prefer no feel in the steering. No i haven't driven the usual suspects (except twins) but most of my life Ive lived with one car that has hydrlic steering and one that has electric. and I am MORE. CONFIDEN. in the electric no feel steering b/c before I could drive in reality, I drove in virtual reality for as long as I can remember. So call me inexperienced, but I've thought about this for a while. Im sticking with electric.
I've been a C8 owner since it's launch in 2020. I find myself considering the jump to a true GT car like the LC500 or possibly the MB GT55.
The C8 performs, but boy it is ever a dime a dozen now.