2023 Cadillac CT4 V Blackwing vs Toyota GR Supra vs Nissan Z, RWD Battle! Drag and Roll Race.

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  • 2023 Cadillac CT4 V Blackwing vs Toyota GR Supra vs Nissan Z, RWD Battle! Drag and Roll Race.
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  • @SamCarLegion
    @SamCarLegion  10 місяців тому +44

    Sorry guys missed this one: Nissan Z CW - 3507 lbs

  • @SlateBlue_VQ
    @SlateBlue_VQ 10 місяців тому +106

    The difference in the roll race between the Z and V was a driver mod. Someone who knows how to shift vs someone who doesn’t. He said “that’s not possible. I think he jumped a little bit” . That’s called knowing how to drive 😂

    • @SlateBlue_VQ
      @SlateBlue_VQ 10 місяців тому +1

      Also the black wing is gm’s top of the line v. wait for the nismo Z

    • @vigorosoPIMPJr
      @vigorosoPIMPJr 10 місяців тому +1

      They should get the automatic.

    • @sinappanis
      @sinappanis 10 місяців тому +4

      Regardless it shows just how much american car's are overrated whereas most of the rest of the world either accurately rates them or underrates them. Hence why the BMW, I mean Supra, is so quick.

    • @keanuphillip7725
      @keanuphillip7725 10 місяців тому +2

      That’s what I’m saying, and the black wing was ahead of the z both times.

    • @joeblack7262
      @joeblack7262 10 місяців тому

      @@sinappanis damn y’all love having our nuts in y’all mouths. Overrated who even rated that high. Y’all be making stuff up as y’all go. So much hate and envy til want us to do some bs

  • @Jr_5646
    @Jr_5646 10 місяців тому +248

    Dude in the Z can shift

    • @purito84
      @purito84 10 місяців тому +8

      I thought the same thing, really well done

    • @garyiglesias
      @garyiglesias 10 місяців тому +9

      yup i noticed it too . can barely tell when he shifted and the other dude you can see it clearly when he does .

    • @misaelc376
      @misaelc376 10 місяців тому +16

      Fr the sam guy cant drive to save his life 😂

    • @shaneducholke364
      @shaneducholke364 10 місяців тому +4

      The Z had the no lift shift so it is just moving thr stick as fast as you
      The Z has a no lift shift so that saves a ton of time. Not saying he isn't good, just had an advantage, just like shifting the gates with the car off in neutral, you can be super quick and smooth

    • @mufasalord
      @mufasalord 10 місяців тому +7

      @@shaneducholke364 unless I’m mistaken the black wing also has no lift shift from the factory. I’d definitely say the driver in the Z was just good at rowing the gears

  • @godzilla7391
    @godzilla7391 10 місяців тому +67

    Dude in Z rocking back and forth helped push his car for the win. 😅

    • @johnnycage5513
      @johnnycage5513 10 місяців тому +16

      head movement gives you 20 horsepower didn't u know?

    • @Illicit_Therapy
      @Illicit_Therapy 5 місяців тому

      @@johnnycage5513 😭😭😭

  • @greg1288
    @greg1288 10 місяців тому +96

    Dude in the Z was on point with every shift…Sam was just a little slower
    Supra’s gearbox is just a little better than the other two👍👌

    • @tampablackwing
      @tampablackwing 10 місяців тому +4

      The gear box is not better, the driver is. The supra is lighter however.

    • @Spiritcr1jsher
      @Spiritcr1jsher 10 місяців тому

      The gear box is actually worse , driver mod in the Z

    • @Splentaur
      @Splentaur 8 місяців тому

      @@tampablackwing According to pretty much every Supra vs Z comparison on YT, it is.

    • @EzComEzG0
      @EzComEzG0 7 місяців тому

      Not even close..You can check that buy watching other vs. video's with decent drivers

    • @kevinshorr1226
      @kevinshorr1226 Місяць тому

      I have the 2023 ct4-v blackwing the gearbox is amazing plus you can no lift shift I don’t think you can in the other 2… like they said it came down to the drivers is all.

  • @godzilla7391
    @godzilla7391 10 місяців тому +15

    I feel like whatever car Sam is in thats the car that will lose. 😆 😅

    • @Striker50_
      @Striker50_ 10 місяців тому +2

      Especially if it's a manual it's painful to watch

  • @kirks06G35
    @kirks06G35 10 місяців тому +10

    Thanks for the video, I have an electric blue CT4 V BW everyone is surprised it's a 6 speed manual and I love it I can drive with my family and it has a good size trunk it's a great mix of luxery and performance.

  • @johnnyx9659
    @johnnyx9659 10 місяців тому +53

    Z won something? Say it ain't so. 🙂 I'm actually happy to see a win finally.

    • @germanengineering204
      @germanengineering204 10 місяців тому +8

      I had high hopes for the Z when it came out, but it loses constantly, and also doesn't get the best reviews when compared to the Supra!

    • @MLProductions.1
      @MLProductions.1 10 місяців тому +9

      ​@@germanengineering204all it needs is a tire mod

    • @shad3128
      @shad3128 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@Hellcat818 the tires kill it, otherwise still a great car. Without the sports package the open diff sucks too

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@shad3128so.. it's shite? With the sport package the price becomes the same as the supra.. where the supra is the faster better driving car.. ESPECIALLY on the track lol. Way better engine in the supra too

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@MLProductions.1no it doesn't.. the supra is just better which renders the Z pointless

  • @xxthehuskycaboosexx
    @xxthehuskycaboosexx 10 місяців тому +67

    Supra is gonna win, calling it now

    • @chrism869
      @chrism869 10 місяців тому +8

      it did, but i would take the ct4 blackwing, better car overall

    • @peterbennett4124
      @peterbennett4124 10 місяців тому +7

      ​@chrism869 Better car to be in the shop constantly lol

    • @2012WrxSti
      @2012WrxSti 10 місяців тому +3

      had mine for 35k miles, never seen any shops

    • @peterbennett4124
      @peterbennett4124 10 місяців тому +4

      @2012WrxSti 35,000 miles that's barely broken in usually problems start at 70-80k miles.

    • @peterbennett4124
      @peterbennett4124 10 місяців тому

      @2012WrxSti Bet you the first thing to go will be the Tranny. Don't we wish all of them will go.

  • @stephanemallet169
    @stephanemallet169 10 місяців тому +8

    I'll take the cadillac, thank you!

  • @Arun999
    @Arun999 10 місяців тому +25

    The Supra and the Z are sexy vehicles. Just wish they could be made with a targa top.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 10 місяців тому +5

      Targa top makes it ugly and adds mega weight

    • @Arun999
      @Arun999 10 місяців тому +1

      @@roboticvenom1935 targas are not ugly at all what targas you know are ugly? the only one i think of that is modern is the Lambo Murci with its toupee looking top

    • @Tender_vigilante
      @Tender_vigilante 10 місяців тому

      That shit is ugly nah

  • @ATSVRuss
    @ATSVRuss 10 місяців тому +19

    Blackwing is faster than both cars in every aspect, goes to show how much a driver mod is needed..

    • @Striker50_
      @Striker50_ 10 місяців тому +2

      For real

    • @nickandrew05
      @nickandrew05 7 місяців тому +1

      U sir are 1000% right . I raced a Supra last night in my 4bw and even tho i beat him it was only about a cars length. I also have a JB4 tuner in mine

    • @John.Christopher
      @John.Christopher 11 днів тому

      yet sam calls his fans stupid for suggesting such

  • @jonmcclane7433
    @jonmcclane7433 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks again Sam for the great content. Cheers from Indiana.

  • @thatr34monster49
    @thatr34monster49 10 місяців тому +7

    I can’t believe you brought the CT4 BW for another race! I love these videos. Keep em coming 🎉

    • @biggygaming
      @biggygaming 4 місяці тому

      Too bad he makes the car look bad every time he drives it

    • @Boogieman_1989Garbage
      @Boogieman_1989Garbage 3 місяці тому

      @@biggygamingit is bad 😅😅#Garbage car 🚘

    • @chilli1695
      @chilli1695 3 місяці тому

      @@Boogieman_1989Garbage Best car in the video actually.

  • @c.rodriguez7976
    @c.rodriguez7976 10 місяців тому +40

    The more I see the Supra in action, the more I like it.

    • @07wrxtr1
      @07wrxtr1 10 місяців тому

      I just can’t get over it’s use of ovals on the front - They should have done some more sharp angles instead.. wonder if any aftermarket front bumpers are out there?

    • @behindthebuild8016
      @behindthebuild8016 10 місяців тому

      They perform well but the interior sucks

    • @MizzouRah78
      @MizzouRah78 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@behindthebuild8016How so?

    • @behindthebuild8016
      @behindthebuild8016 10 місяців тому

      Design, quality, space plus u can’t see out your door windows you just see head liner

    • @MizzouRah78
      @MizzouRah78 10 місяців тому +1

      @behindthebuild8016 Be specific. Also, the height of the window has nothing to do with "the interior," and it would dramatically change the look.

  • @brandonpittman5243
    @brandonpittman5243 10 місяців тому +12

    Supra was just waking up at 90mph

  • @scottyd0530
    @scottyd0530 10 місяців тому +33

    Every time I see a MkV Supra race, I love it even more. Those things are absurdly quick.

    • @SlickSniper3
      @SlickSniper3 10 місяців тому

      They're fantastic on the circuit, the supra rules. I like all 3 Cars for sure. The caddy is such a good sedan.

    • @SchafdoggGTO
      @SchafdoggGTO 9 місяців тому

      They are definitely nice BMWs for sure.

    • @scottyd0530
      @scottyd0530 9 місяців тому

      @@SchafdoggGTO How original. I definitely haven't heard that one before.

    • @retrocompaq5212
      @retrocompaq5212 6 місяців тому

      @@scottyd0530 toyota builds garbage and they had to pay someone else to make a decent car, still way too slow for a flagship sports car, you gotta face the thruth

    • @scottyd0530
      @scottyd0530 6 місяців тому +1

      @@retrocompaq5212 Here's your truth. Do your research before you blatantly make an ass of yourself on the internet. If you hate the car, that's fine. No one is gonna care, but you're allowed your opinion. Face the truth.

  • @sircefiro
    @sircefiro 10 місяців тому +9

    Good stuff Sam, you know we love manual days.
    I don't think the z jumped the first roll and he possibly hesitated a bit on the second to be sure, all 3 cars getting it right look a good match up, love a quick sedan.

  • @VaunShiz
    @VaunShiz 10 місяців тому +11

    Always gotta love how he gets gapped in a short roll race "not far" "not by much" 😂🤦‍♂️ make that race a half mile and see the gap

    • @SlateBlue_VQ
      @SlateBlue_VQ 10 місяців тому +5

      That dude is something irritating. He said “both the Z and Supra have a weight advantage I’m heavier” but fails to note the 100hp advantage 😂

    • @user-re8nw4ph5y
      @user-re8nw4ph5y 10 місяців тому

      ​@@SlateBlue_VQ😅😅😅

    • @tampablackwing
      @tampablackwing 9 місяців тому

      ​@@SlateBlue_VQcheck the dynos. They're only about 35ish whp difference, oh then make both cars autos ....

  • @dennistate9951
    @dennistate9951 9 місяців тому

    Great video 🤙🤙

  • @reynaldorivera743
    @reynaldorivera743 10 місяців тому +10

    Sam great manual shootout .Man that Supra is quick with that B58

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  10 місяців тому

      Sure is

    • @skip741x3
      @skip741x3 10 місяців тому +1

      getting 3.9 with the manual is crazy fast! even the Z with its auto isnt gonna get much better than the low 4's

  • @UAE111
    @UAE111 10 місяців тому +7

    B58 will say bye bye 😅😅😅

  • @nallis01
    @nallis01 10 місяців тому +12

    S U P R A FTW!

  • @wackit6756
    @wackit6756 10 місяців тому +16

    It sounds like the Supra driver was shifting too soon, didn’t sound close to redline in each gear. What are your requirements for these races in terms of how high to rev? Is it up to each driver?

    • @VaunShiz
      @VaunShiz 10 місяців тому +8

      Yea I noticed that to , they need a camera pointed at the gauges in the races

    • @retsehcnamdetinu1672
      @retsehcnamdetinu1672 10 місяців тому +4

      Exactly, premature shifting all way thru

  • @marcusturner5291
    @marcusturner5291 10 місяців тому +1

    Nice video keep up the good work SAM

  • @marklinley815
    @marklinley815 10 місяців тому +11

    B58 again for the win in my book. Hands down. MKV all day for me.

  • @1Springloaded
    @1Springloaded 10 місяців тому +5

    So dam entertaining. 5:30am on a Sunday morning.i got one eye open watching drag races.
    Still taking BW. These days I'm built a little more for comfort than speed.

  • @anthonyb2426
    @anthonyb2426 10 місяців тому +14

    Not that it would have drastically changed the outcomes, but the no lift shift makes a distinct sound when activated. If you let off the gas just a little it won't work. The Topher does a review, check out the 15:30ish mark of his video to see what I mean
    Also, from a 30 roll the caddy should be in 1st gear. It can get to 50 in first, supra and Z second is best, top out under 40 in first.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 10 місяців тому +9

      The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH..
      The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder..
      Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.

    • @anthonyb2426
      @anthonyb2426 10 місяців тому +3

      @@roboticvenom1935 yeah to me it just highlights that all 3 of these are pretty close and it becomes a driver's race. So start in the suboptimal gear from a roll in the BW and even the Z will take you

    • @DizzyMan24
      @DizzyMan24 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@roboticvenom1935You mean 12.8 at 112 for the manual and 12.3 at 116 for auto, right?

    • @chilli1695
      @chilli1695 3 місяці тому

      @@roboticvenom1935 Finally someone with a brain in this comment section

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 3 місяці тому

      @@DizzyMan24 car and driver tested 2023 Z at 12.7 for automatic

  • @motormusique
    @motormusique 10 місяців тому +11

    Would be so hard to pick between the Supra and Blackwing...they are both so amazing. Blackwing is a total rarity in this world as a manual sports sedan, whereas the Supra looks so sexy. I want both.

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  10 місяців тому +4

      I would have a Z and a Blackwing

    • @motormusique
      @motormusique 10 місяців тому +4

      @@SamCarLegion Interesting. I find some reviewers prefer the Supra because it's faster and agile but some like the Z because it feels more analogue

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  10 місяців тому +3

      @@motormusique i find the zupra too claustrophobic and I can buy an M2 used for the same money with +2 seats

    • @shad3128
      @shad3128 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@motormusique the supra is pretty ugly compared to both other cars. Also for the money the m2 is better looking and the performance is right there.

    • @GeronimoBiggles
      @GeronimoBiggles 10 місяців тому +1

      unless you live on a racetrack i agree with Sam, you can't see a thing out of the stupid supra and having 4 doors is so much more practical. I've been in all 3 cars and own the ct4 for the same reasons. My next choice would've been the Z for the cool retro look and analog feel.

  • @nickbb1920
    @nickbb1920 9 місяців тому +4

    After this and the M3 video, I'm convinced the BW is getting the short end of the stick, and I'll openly say I don't drive manual but I know enough and have read enough between these 2 videos to conclude that the bw driver doesn't get all of that tranny, which makes me question if no lift shift was used or not, seems like a lot of power cuts out in between shifts, after constant feedback, why not switch drivers??? I can totally see the B58 beating the bw in a quarter mile run, but there's no way you can convince me that the Z is faster then the BW from a dig, regardless I'd put big money on the bw in a top end race with out a question, top end and around track is where the BW shines

  • @elstaywinning5735
    @elstaywinning5735 10 місяців тому

    Can you get a audi S6 up here? Would like to how is speed and power matches up against other cars

  • @backtoshallabal6662
    @backtoshallabal6662 10 місяців тому

    Sam curious on your opinion but who would win in a Drag and Roll a 2023 Stock GLI or a 2023 Stock 330i?

  • @FedeJ2023
    @FedeJ2023 9 місяців тому +1

    Greetings from Argentina we love your channel ✌️🇦🇷

  • @Bungle
    @Bungle 10 місяців тому +12

    I have a Blackwing and they’re faster if you shift around 6,100 RPM instead of taking them up to redline. The car tells you the optimal point to shift with a little green, yellow, red animation in the tachometer if you pay attention to it. I suspect the host of these videos doesn’t know that and that’s why his car always underperforms.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 10 місяців тому +5

      The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH..
      The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder..
      Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.

    • @dylanantenberg5561
      @dylanantenberg5561 10 місяців тому +1

      Agreed😭the Z sucks and the blackwing is better in every way then any of these handling wise the Supra might be decent just because of how light it is but engine in the blackwing has a lot more character I got to drive one and it was a lot of fun guy in blackwing does not know how to shift either and you can see it in the video in between them other people in dif cars know how to

    • @vectorcruzusa
      @vectorcruzusa 10 місяців тому +3

      @@roboticvenom1935 you really need to stop copy and pasting your comment. I've seen it at least 4 times already

    • @vigorosoPIMPJr
      @vigorosoPIMPJr 10 місяців тому

      @@vectorcruzusaeither way he’s still right

    • @MrTickleBean
      @MrTickleBean 23 дні тому +2

      Yeah, it makes peak power at 5,750rpm no need to take it all the way up to 6,500rpm.
      6.1k looks like the sweet spot

  • @cavaseno
    @cavaseno 10 місяців тому +7

    B58!

  • @pinkipipe
    @pinkipipe 10 місяців тому +2

    I haven’t seen yet the race and already know who will 🏆

  • @purito84
    @purito84 10 місяців тому +3

    I would love to be able to grab that same colored GR Supra with the stick shift but black interior. Man it looks great

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 10 місяців тому +1

      Why would you want a black interior.. that gets more hot.. more claustrophobic feeling and FAR more boring and cheaper looking.
      Absolutely mindless, you get tired of it too. A red or nice brown interior? Nope

  • @LearningFast
    @LearningFast 10 місяців тому +8

    If all 3 are stock and all 3 are manual then the Supra should win. If any one of them are automatic and the others are manual then the automatic should win. Should be a really interesting race no matter what.

    • @robbypitas620
      @robbypitas620 2 місяці тому

      Not on paper no, but Toyota and BMW are lying about the amount of power the supra makes to the crank. It makes that to the wheels

  • @HOVIK750
    @HOVIK750 10 місяців тому +3

    Did he leave the Cadillac in rain mode?

  • @1laimmiss
    @1laimmiss 10 місяців тому +3

    Supra the king

  • @lawrencehayden753
    @lawrencehayden753 10 місяців тому +11

    The Supra makes more hp than what is listed

  • @benlecluyse
    @benlecluyse 10 місяців тому +5

    Insane cars !! ❤❤

  • @racer247
    @racer247 10 місяців тому +23

    Manual cars make the driver way more important in the outcome of races. So the outcome could be closer than expected, but on paper the Supra should win pretty easily 🤔

    • @hau5muzeek
      @hau5muzeek 10 місяців тому +3

      manual transmissions also make said cars slower than theyd be if equipped with an auto trans like the ZF8. the biggest gripe people had with the traditional sludhboxes was that it delivered a super delayed response to driver input and could never find the right gear quickly enough. that isnt the case anymore

    • @racer247
      @racer247 10 місяців тому +7

      @hau5muzeek Facts, but these purest keep the " so much more fun to drive " nonsense up. When just about every exotic car over 200K doesn't even have a manual option besides the GT3.

    • @hau5muzeek
      @hau5muzeek 10 місяців тому +1

      @@racer247 hahahahaha, true as fuck. i just don’t understand why people cant just spec it with what kind of trans theyd prefer (pros/cons to both) and move past it, its like some shitty vibe that they refuse to let die, personally i like to have FUN when im out there and couldnt give a rats ass about a fews clowns and their petty dick measuring contests

    • @sharodbell
      @sharodbell 10 місяців тому

      That’s because it is more fun. What the hell are you on about? 😒

    • @01gtbdaily30
      @01gtbdaily30 10 місяців тому +2

      @@racer247incorrect , most super cars and hyper cars have a manual transmission but it’s no longer a lazy stick and clutch . Now they have instant gear changes with paddles. You can still do all of the things the “save the manuals” guys scream about but now you can keep both hands on the wheel and no lift shift .

  • @bigneutron77
    @bigneutron77 10 місяців тому +7

    Supra proving everyday that it’s the best affordable sport car out there.

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  10 місяців тому +9

      70k is a bit of a stretch for affordability but I get your point

    • @cosmic_gate476
      @cosmic_gate476 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@SamCarLegion Let's be real we are way poorer than Americans. Supra is a normal car to them.

    • @brandonpittman5243
      @brandonpittman5243 10 місяців тому

      @@cosmic_gate476no it isn’t I’m American and 70k is too much for me I just don’t see the worth.

    • @DezNutzBich
      @DezNutzBich 10 місяців тому

      ​​​@@cosmic_gate476let's also be honest, if you're paying 70k usd for a Supra, you're a god damn dumbass (not you but in general). Used low miled supras go for 50k-60k....

    • @AnthonyParrilloRI
      @AnthonyParrilloRI 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@cosmic_gate476I'm an American and I'm being real, all these sports car are too expensive nowadays. Also I don't know how it is in canada, but the markups are real brutal down here. Hello from America!

  • @gucciserg8093
    @gucciserg8093 10 місяців тому +3

    Supra is a Beauty of a car that’s for damn sure!

  • @sneekyturbo_AMG
    @sneekyturbo_AMG 10 місяців тому

    Great race

  • @user-lh6fg4fs6y
    @user-lh6fg4fs6y 10 місяців тому +3

    everything seems to be not bad with the caddy - moderate weight, sufficient working volume, solid declared power and torque. But he doesn’t go, dog, he doesn’t go, even if you crack!

  • @willesco5211
    @willesco5211 10 місяців тому

    All ❤.your videos!!!!!

  • @nickdaplummaman
    @nickdaplummaman 10 місяців тому +2

    Need to see that caddy with a driver that knows how to drive. How does the car have flatfoot shifting and you’re not using it….That Z driver has crazy driver mod

  • @ericcleland817
    @ericcleland817 10 місяців тому +2

    The Supra's shifting seems in my opinion to be just a small bit quicker than the Cadillacs. Im not saying it was the driver, but watching the drag races, the cadallic would lose incrimental amounts of distance on the Supra during the shifting, and only while shifting. I would enjoy seeing these vehicles drag race again, but next time with different transmissions. I think that is only fair to compare on that level as well because of how close the vehicles are in both horse power, as well as weight. Yes the Supra does have the advantage in curb weight, but I dont think that a few hundred pounds would decide the winner of the drag races. I enjoyed this video none the less, and look forward to seeing more videos like this.

  • @moviehaven8906
    @moviehaven8906 10 місяців тому +10

    Great drag race as always, a rolling race between the Toyota GR supra and the Nissan Z would have added more flavour.

  • @mynock250
    @mynock250 10 місяців тому

    Great vid, I think thats the first race Ive ever seen the Z win.

  • @davidholmes1771
    @davidholmes1771 10 місяців тому +1

    Great races! Cant front on that.

  • @TheImbord212
    @TheImbord212 10 місяців тому

    Thought the BW had no lift shift on all 6 speeds?

  • @Driver.Diaries
    @Driver.Diaries 10 місяців тому +1

    nice runs.... ct4v vs charger 392 would be a good one!

  • @airjase3691
    @airjase3691 10 місяців тому

    I love these introductions

  • @thebigsolarz4014
    @thebigsolarz4014 10 місяців тому +1

    Hi Sam I don't know if you'll ever see this comment but if you do can you do the Elantra n vs the trd ?

  • @halow4
    @halow4 10 місяців тому +8

    I think the CT4 did ok considering its hundreds of pounds heavier then both cars but I think between the supra being underrated by at least 40hp and those cars being 2 door cs the caddy a 4door it was just a lil too much for it. A better matchup would be the Stinger GT vs CT4v vs Dodge charger 392

    • @brolyvi1211
      @brolyvi1211 10 місяців тому

      All said cars are auto against the ct4. Manual vs manual

    • @VaunShiz
      @VaunShiz 10 місяців тому +4

      It's the same weight and same power as a base M3 , and I have a feeling it would get gapped by the M3

    • @drivescene6747
      @drivescene6747 10 місяців тому +3

      @@VaunShizit would absolutely get gapped by an M3, badly

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 10 місяців тому +3

      The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH..
      The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder..
      Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 10 місяців тому +4

      ​@@drivescene6747M3 does cost more and has inferior driving dynamics.

  • @jrod6236
    @jrod6236 10 місяців тому +2

    You should be using the no lift shifting feature in the Cadillac.

  • @joshuapark5466
    @joshuapark5466 9 місяців тому

    I don’t get how the ctv4 is losing vs these cars with like 70 more hp? Is it because of weight difference? Can someone explain.

    • @nickbb1920
      @nickbb1920 9 місяців тому

      The B58s are no joke (Supra engine) and they're under rated from their true hp numbers, they actually make over 380 whp, which is more then the advertised 380 crank hp, and at 500 less lbs it should do what it did from the dig, but the V losing to the Z is just living proof that its the driver, and I don't think the V driver was utilizing the no lift shift, which results in the V losing boost and power in between shifts, it's actually quite visually noticeable from the out side of car camera view, I'd be willing to put good money on the V in every race from a 50-60 mph roll, assuming the driver is using no lift shift or better yet, the 10 speed

  • @nickbb1920
    @nickbb1920 9 місяців тому +1

    It would also be real interesting to see the same cars but with the automatic transmissions, seems like that would level the playing field as you'll leave it to the cars to do the talking instead of the drivers

  • @mohalesydneylebea9388
    @mohalesydneylebea9388 10 місяців тому +5

    B58 of the Supra BMW M340i should easily get a W

    • @jaimatic23
      @jaimatic23 10 місяців тому +1

      Huhhh ? Not even the same B58 lol

    • @carguy...
      @carguy... 10 місяців тому

      ​@@jaimatic23yes it is

    • @jaimatic23
      @jaimatic23 10 місяців тому +1

      @@carguy... the b58 in the supra is not in any other bmw vehicle, the B58B30C & B58B3001 are r&d & tuned motors and transmission by gazoo racing team

    • @carguy...
      @carguy... 10 місяців тому +1

      @@jaimatic23 it is almost exactly the same??? Same power and tq......I should know!!

  • @DM72513
    @DM72513 10 місяців тому +3

    Dude in the Z was giving the Blackwing like half a car length before each roll race.

    • @chilli1695
      @chilli1695 3 місяці тому

      those were defiantly driver diff. races I'm afraid. No offense to sam.... but the guy cant drive 😅
      The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH..

  • @lucienpetrus3851
    @lucienpetrus3851 10 місяців тому +2

    Now folks again that's a Supra watch and learn nuff said Cape Town South Africa 🌍♥️

  • @mehrdadmehrsam3643
    @mehrdadmehrsam3643 10 місяців тому +2

    Very good race tank you🎉 but must try to better change shift with cadi ,lose many power beetween change gear .❤❤

  • @HOVIK750
    @HOVIK750 10 місяців тому

    I definitely want to see more of the cadillac.. that cuts off power.. am i wrong?

  • @latino914
    @latino914 10 місяців тому +4

    Two car icons and a malibu 😮

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 10 місяців тому

      The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH..
      The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder..
      Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.

  • @saved1777
    @saved1777 10 місяців тому +1

    The caddy is more practical having rear seats nd it has great power impressive 👏

  • @setsunaes
    @setsunaes 10 місяців тому +2

    Supra: "400 what? 472 who? How cute both of you guys."

  • @jeremycrookshanks8420
    @jeremycrookshanks8420 10 місяців тому +2

    Great to see these cars race caddy for the win

  • @avirgilio71
    @avirgilio71 10 місяців тому +3

    M340i is a much better comparison to the BW Caddy IMO

    • @thatr34monster49
      @thatr34monster49 10 місяців тому

      Yes auto m340i xdrive vs bw ct4 manual. Do you guys pull these ideas from your posterior? 😂

  • @diegomjangos4904
    @diegomjangos4904 10 місяців тому +2

    Sam has to learn to flat foot shift. That’s the reason the Z pulled so hard between shifts. But yeah good races

  • @deancm3759
    @deancm3759 10 місяців тому +3

    Very close with the Z on the second roll race because you started out half a car length ahead of him.

  • @slash11lipo
    @slash11lipo 10 місяців тому +2

    Slower shifting was the 4BW problem.

  • @brandonpittman5243
    @brandonpittman5243 10 місяців тому +2

    They better not say anything about the tires on the z . I’m sick of hearing how bad the tires are

  • @20VGT
    @20VGT 10 місяців тому +27

    USA : 472 HP you get 378 HP
    Japan : 400 HP you get 440HP

    • @frankcastle1578
      @frankcastle1578 10 місяців тому +22

      Germany 389 you get 449

    • @bobstarr
      @bobstarr 10 місяців тому +9

      Japan you get what they say, mostly, but the germans say what you get for wheel hp.

    • @2seep
      @2seep 10 місяців тому +3

      @@bobstarrfor Japan you don’t get what they say it’s a bit understated. The Nissan z has 400hp but in reality it has 372whp which equates to 437bhp

    • @ph00ny1
      @ph00ny1 10 місяців тому +8

      Not even remotely true. Even the automatic CT4-V BW are hitting 420s at the wheel on a dyno. It looks like this needs a proper driver mod to really ring it out considering C&D hit 0-60 in 4 flat in their manual ct4-v BW review

    • @aireskylinetm8480
      @aireskylinetm8480 10 місяців тому +3

      @@frankcastle1578Koreans: u get 365hp u get 450hp

  • @coyotee_s1973
    @coyotee_s1973 10 місяців тому

    That blackwing is a legend lol, it made in onto sam page and throttle house

  • @memopadilla5931
    @memopadilla5931 10 місяців тому

    Sam taking couple seconds on each shift .. 😂 🤣

  • @muhammedbappa7560
    @muhammedbappa7560 10 місяців тому +1

    Please sir kindly give us nsx vs supra

  • @Donpepee
    @Donpepee 5 місяців тому +1

    Shout out to my boy with the 400z representing Guyana 🇬🇾 i see the glove by the rear mirror

  • @cajunotaku3256
    @cajunotaku3256 10 місяців тому +9

    That Blackwing is badass.

  • @crxtodd16
    @crxtodd16 10 місяців тому +8

    Huh. Interesting. After seeing the results I initially thought that GM must be overrating their HP numbers - but I looked up some dyno sheets on the CT4-V Blackwing and it's pretty consistently putting out more than 400whp.
    I suppose it's just not able to really put all its power to the ground, thus getting beat by other cars that put out less power...?
    Thanks for the race!!

    • @nvrdwn3140
      @nvrdwn3140 10 місяців тому +6

      It weighs a good amount more though

    • @crxtodd16
      @crxtodd16 10 місяців тому +2

      @@nvrdwn3140 That's a good point.

    • @GeronimoBiggles
      @GeronimoBiggles 10 місяців тому +5

      yes at least 300 lbs more than the other two.. but i own the ct4 BW and love it it's the best car out of the bunch to live with day to day and good visibility unlike the supra which you can barely see out of.

    • @ericinfante1885
      @ericinfante1885 10 місяців тому +1

      Besides weight, at least with the supra, it's been known to have more power than rated for both 2 port 2020 models and even more for the 6 port models on dynos. About 380s whp for 2020 and 400whp for the 6 ports

    • @ericinfante1885
      @ericinfante1885 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@GeronimoBiggles dang bro nonway the supra got poor visibility? Ur killing me man lol. I always love 4 door sports cars, I love the sleeper vibe and practicality of them. My top 3 were always the CTS-V, Chevy ss, and Lexus ISF. Never wanted coupes but only 3 coupes really call my name Imani that's the corvette C7 ZR1, Chevy camaro ZL1, and the supra. I hate coupes other than those. Supra out of them all really is my #1 for money to performance and looks. I wish they make a 4 door version in a lexus suit because I gave up on the isf coming back but also the older isf are insanely pricey

  • @eddieescobar4722
    @eddieescobar4722 6 місяців тому +1

    These cars are sick all of them ill drive anyone ofthese badass rides ❤💯💪👍

  • @85CEKR
    @85CEKR 10 місяців тому +2

    Something happened with the z vs the caddy drag race, near the beginning the caddy all of the sudden jumps more than a car length ahead, I'm suprised they didn't redo that race

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 10 місяців тому

      The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH..
      The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder..
      Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.

    • @ralphsmallblock4367
      @ralphsmallblock4367 10 місяців тому

      @@roboticvenom1935 Sorry but not a fair comparison especially to a sports car vs a sedan

  • @ZXRSixSix-Z
    @ZXRSixSix-Z 10 місяців тому

    You should start with the drag, then a roll race. How much does the Z weight?

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  10 місяців тому +2

      You start with rolls then drags so the tires warm up better. You need more grip on a drag than roll

    • @ZXRSixSix-Z
      @ZXRSixSix-Z 10 місяців тому

      @SamCarLegion editing. I get that. Do a roll first, but edit it to come up second.

  • @briansimpson5664
    @briansimpson5664 10 місяців тому +1

    The Supra all day every day... Each Time the guy let up at the end. He was no where near the redline

  • @thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921
    @thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 10 місяців тому +1

    Hold up. The CT4V Blackwing comes with no lift shift i thought?

  • @pcosta1385
    @pcosta1385 10 місяців тому +4

    Sam you have some of the best content on here. Love these super practical videos with attainable performance cars. Keep it coming!

  • @keithbartlett7679
    @keithbartlett7679 Місяць тому

    Blackwing stock GM calibration has babysitting. Check Tapout tuning, once the tune is straightened up these things are way quicker..

  • @cavaseno
    @cavaseno 10 місяців тому +1

    The Supra is such a good car

  • @KingCast65
    @KingCast65 6 днів тому

    I'm a Euro guy all day but if I had this kind of money I would seriously buy the Caddy over a BMW, Audio or Benz just because.

  • @ms8742
    @ms8742 10 місяців тому +1

    As much as I want to like the CT4 V, American Muscle in general is just slower than it should be based on HP/Torque. Same for Mustang.

    • @ATSVRuss
      @ATSVRuss 10 місяців тому +1

      No, other brands just under rate their cars

  • @sv52308
    @sv52308 10 місяців тому +7

    As a Z fan, finally it won something

    • @robertperciballi3357
      @robertperciballi3357 10 місяців тому +4

      Felt the same way... just put better tires & someone who can shift as well...

    • @sarahrivera4878
      @sarahrivera4878 10 місяців тому +2

      Z biggest issue is traction off the line with better tyres Z will be very close to the Supra check hagerty out. The auto Z did 12.3s @ 116mph and the manual Z did 12.8s @ 112mph the auto only Supra at the time did it 12.1s @ 117mph 0.2 tenths and 1 mph difference really separate the autos from each other. As per hagerty the Z with a grippier set of tyres would have kept up with the Supra. And did I forgot to mention that the Japanese spec Z performance weighs less than the US an Canadian spec at 3403lbs. People talk about the Supras auto way faster but reality not so as proven by hagerty they are a lot closer than people think. In fact the Z with same tyres as the Supra should be the same. Now on the track is where the Supra really outshines the Z. Let’s see what the new Z nismo does when it goes on sale. I don’t know why people love to hate on the Z. We people should be thankful they made it.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 10 місяців тому

      The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH..
      The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder..
      Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 10 місяців тому

      ​@@sarahrivera4878The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH..
      The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder..
      Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.
      I agree that the Z is overhated because we need to appreciate new sports cars we get as it's a dying industry. But it's fine to admit the supra is the better, faster car because it is. Same tires on both cars the supra is faster. The Nissan Z nismo will be overpriced to shit and is therefore useless in that regatd

    • @robertperciballi3357
      @robertperciballi3357 10 місяців тому

      @@roboticvenom1935 Not Gullible at all... but I get what you're saying

  • @g4do
    @g4do 10 місяців тому +2

    That Cadillac is a letdown... seriously

    • @cosmic_gate476
      @cosmic_gate476 10 місяців тому +2

      Agreed lol it also costs the most and is the least reliable machine here

  • @misbahagha1573
    @misbahagha1573 10 місяців тому +1

    Sam. Announce verbally announce the roll start br 👍🏼

  • @EntaiIIe
    @EntaiIIe 7 місяців тому

    I had a new Z with the 6mt and now have a CT4 BW with the 6mt. the Z is 'easier' to drive fast so the results are not surprising to me. with the BW, you really have to understand the gearing (long, tall gears) and the powerband (if you take it to redline, you're losing power, need to shift around 6k). you can also take advantage of no lift shift to not lose power between shifts. someone brand new to the car is not going to be able to extract it all on the first go like this, you need a little seat time before you understand the car.

    • @retrocompaq5212
      @retrocompaq5212 6 місяців тому

      tall gears are good for everyday use tho, going over 2k rpm in 6th gear at 60mph is completely stupid and annoying

  • @JORGECASTRO-pb9mw
    @JORGECASTRO-pb9mw 9 місяців тому +1

    With less horsepower but racehorses the Supra beat the others that what they had were Ponny not always higher HP and Pounds of torque influence a car, this supra power weight and ratios have shown a good car,

  • @zz3863
    @zz3863 10 місяців тому +1

    American muscle is always good at numbers but not real world accelerating 🤣

  • @quentinfreeman7516
    @quentinfreeman7516 10 місяців тому

    Bridgestone really needs to go back to the drawing board on those tires

  • @kobedabest
    @kobedabest 10 місяців тому +3

    Zupra haters are seething again. 😂

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 10 місяців тому +1

      The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH..
      The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder..
      Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.