I appreciate your take on these films and your respect for opposing opinions. While all three films in the new trilogies are not without their flaws, I don't think they deserve quite the amount of hate they're receiving, Ends included. It was smart how you pointed out that Micheal was never after Laurie, so why in Ends would he even have a reason to go after her? Sure it wasn't what people were expecting, but that also doesn't mean it's inherently bad. My biggest problem with Ends was that it didn't feel long enough, Cory took up too much of the film for the climax to have the impact it needed. Maybe in the future, some sort of "redo" or longer version will be released so we can still see as much Micheal as we want to.
Honestly this movie just needs an extended cut. The biggest issue with it is not of mocheal myers, and the climax already felt cut short, just have an extended cut that makes the climax a solid 20 minutes longer
@@mouthshovel Exactly, I agree with this. I think people expected the whole movie to just be Laurie vs Micheal, which wouldn't have been smart in the first place IMO, it would make the fight boring and no longer exciting. However, a longer climax definitely would've helped with the feeling of the fight being too rushed.
So many people hated the sister crap but then when a director scraps that and makes Michael just an evil killer with no motive like Carpenter wanted they're still mad lol Ends made Michael what Carpenter intended him to be, not just another slasher, but a force, an identity that can be anyone.
YES!! I personally hate that sister crap, it quite literally destroyed the whole franchise. This new Trilogy is just perfect, and for me it is the definitive sequel to the Original!
John Carpenter never said or intended that evil could be anyone. He always said that the Shape was just pure evil. Not really human. I don’t understand why people think this. It’s insane and you think you understand Halloween more than others. You don’t.
I thought the new trilogy was decent. I didn't dislike it at all but they weren't my favs. Ends might be my fav of the new ones because it felt more like it's own movie. The other 2 tried to crowbar in so much stuff to say "Look! These are sequels to the original!!!" and I felt like Ends didn't really do that.
Honestly the end shots of Halloween Ends really gave me a sense of nostalgia because of how far we've come. And when "Don't fear the reaper" started playing it was perfect
People just like basic slashers but don't care about an actual story and that's this new trilogy. Halloween 2018, Kills, and Ends have wn actual meaning and theme behind them. The thing I see that people don't notice is that all 3 of the movies are about all evil and the effects it causes. Halloween 2018 was what evil will do to you and how it comes back, Kills was evil spreading to Haddonfield and what it does to people, Ends was how evil will change shape and what it turns a innocent person into. Another way they play on this metaphor is in the title sequences. Halloween 18: The reverse rotting pumpkin and the candle reigniting is the evil coming back. Halloween kills: The pumpkins in the intro are the people of Haddonfield, and the fire represents the evil spreading to Haddonfield. Halloween Ends: Evil changes shape, and in the credits, you see a pumpkin that looks like the pumpkin in the 1978 intro credits, and that represents Michael and the next pumpkin smashing out represents Corey and so on. I think a dead giveaway that shows the metaphor is the end of Lauries memoir when she changes "let him inside" to "let evil inside". Also in Ends it shows Michael isn't an embodiment of evil he's only a vessel and that's how Corey got his strength. Instead of Michael manifesting his evil in Corey its the evil leaving Michael to have a new and younger vessel. Here's a defense to the most controversial scenes. While rewatching, Halloween Ends. I realized the why Corey was able to take Michael's mask because when Corey was getting choked by Michael he couldn't do shit but after he looked into his eyes in the sewer that's the evil entering inside of him and after he escaped the sewer and killed the homeless man, that's what gave him his strength. The evil knew Michael was gonna die soon, so it entered into Corey to have a new vessel and that's why Michael became weaker and how Corey was able to take the mask.
I agree with the words that you said. For myself, Halloween is at it's most interesting when it is exploring the lore / motivation of Micheal - which is ironic because it's also at it's best when we DON'T know why Micheal does the things he does. There needs to be a nice middle ground where the story offers up a possible explanation, but never confirms or expands upon it. Does Michael hunt Lory because he wants to finish what happened in the first film? Are they related? Does he simple proximity to his home causes his hatred? Or does he even think about her? I feel the sequel trilogy accomplished all of this. It's easy to assume that Mickey is after Lowree, until they show he isn't. The scares are welcomed, but not the highlight of showcasing this character.
Ultimately, the problem I have with the trilogy is that the three films just don’t work coherently. That Laurie would spend forty years fearing and preparing for Michael’s return, then, he does return, and kills half the town, kills her daughter and son-in-law, and now, she has dropped the survivalist bit and wants to bake pumpkin pies makes no sense. In fact, the movies themselves reveal that the writers had no idea where they were going or what they wanted to do. That the movies were all written by different writing teams, that they were re-written and re-shot multiple times completely shows up in KILLS and ENDS. In this way, the films are no different from the other sequels: the producers ran out of story to tell, so made a couple more movies that made no sense just to make money.
I feel like when it comes to the Laurie bit, there's a lot of factors that play into that. I'd say just strictly if Ends was a one-year time jump then it could be questioned why she wouldn't be hunting after Michael for vengeance but they establish in Ends it has been four years since Michael's rampage in H18 and Kills and it builds off of what we see in those movies. In H18, Laurie is firmly convinced Michael one day is gonna break out and hunt after her and this paranoia results in two failed marriages, an estranged daughter who the film very much implies was abused by virtue of being deprived of a proper childhood due to her being raised to be ready to kill Michael and it all culminates... in Michael not even caring about her with the one time it seems to register that he might've seen this girl before being the moment they see each other again though that could've easily even have been a misinterpretation by Laurie. Kills then twists that knife by having Hawkins just plainly point out that Michael does not care about Laurie or really anyone and Laurie had to contend with that while also realizing that the obsession with Michael that grabbed her thanks to her paranoia got so many people killed, including an innocent man and someone who she once protected back in 1978. Ends continues that because apparently when they went back after him, the house was torched and Michael vanished, showing that it really was only the house he seemed to have some attachment to and this left Laurie with years to self-reflect on her life and how Michael did not care about her as well as the nature of evil so evidentially, she came to the conclusion that this was the time to start fresh, to not make the same mistakes she made with Karen and just get on with her life. She still has the scars and definitely has trauma but she's not gonna let it define her life. I don't think it's a sign the writers had no idea and were just doing things for money, it's just how they saw fit to continue the story and if you watch all three movies? Thematically it's all there. If Laurie was still the survivalist going after Michael? That movie could've still worked certainly but they just chose not to go in that direction and instead make a smaller scale, much quieter movie that focuses on the characters and themes that were present even back in the original Halloween and Carpenter's other movies.
@@the-aspiring-creator4249: I appreciate the well-thought-out reply. My personal opinion is that every 'Halloween' sequel vindicates John Carpenter's stance that there never should have been a 'Halloween II.' The first movie was perfect in its story, scope, and execution, and every sequel has diminished the lore of that first film. There was nowhere to go with the story after 'Halloween (1978)', and every sequel proves that. There are thirteen 'Halloween' movies. I really enjoy about half of them. There are three or four that are a mixed bag, and that's where 'Halloween Ends' lands. And there are two or three I think are just bad movies that I rarely watch. I understand the conundrum faced by writers and directors. If you make the movie everyone wants, that will be boring for the filmmakers. You'll end-up with another 'Halloween II,' another 'Halloween 4,' another 'H20,' another 'Halloween (2018).' This probably isn't what directors really want to do, because rather than employing their own style and telling their own story, they're studying John Carpenter and Dean Cundey, and trying really hard to copy them. That's more satisfying for a mass audience, but it's boring for creativity. Unfortunately, if you take a chance and go really far outside the box, like 'Halloween III' or 'Halloween Ends,' you end-up losing your audience. I can understand David Gordon Green's and the writers' desire not to do another conventional 'Halloween' sequel. I just think if they were going to take the risk, the execution needed to be a lot better. It's a highly questionable decision to introduce a new character and make him and his love story with Allison the focus of the movie. But if you're going to do that, you need to tell a story that makes sense. A lot of stuff you mention about Laurie's character growth would have been great to see, but it wasn't in the movie. 'Halloween Kills' ends where, after forty years of preparing for Him - I will refer to "it" as "him" - Michael Myers escaped, killed the entire fire department, killed half the town, killed her daughter, and now, Laurie's listening to the Shape breathe over the phone. In 'Halloween Ends,' we pick-up and and Laurie is in domestic, pie-baking mode. I would have loved to have seen what Laurie went through to get over her daughter's murder and Michael's rampage, but we don't get that depicted onscreen. The main problem with the movie is that it takes place over four days. To make the love story more believable, Allison and Corey would have needed to have met each other long before the evening of October 27th, which is where 'Halloween Ends' begins. It ends the evening of October 31st. It would have helped the movie to spend more time with Corey as a normal guy going through some shit, and then have his infection by and eventual transformation into Evil take place over a longer period of time. That the movie lacks these things makes it unbalanced. It's like they had some interesting ideas for both Corey and Laurie, but they never were able to complete them. It's like they wanted to tell this story about Corey Cunningham, but then they remembered they needed to have this final confrontation between Michael and Laurie. So, they spent an hour and forty minutes telling the story of Corey Cunningham. Then, they kill him him off, and here's Michael Myers to have his fight with Laurie and she wins and throws him in the car compactor. Personally, if this was how they were going to execute it, I would prefer another 'Halloween II,' 'Halloween 4,' or 'Halloween (2018).' If you're going to take these risks and intentionally write a story you know the audience isn't going to like, then you really need to execute it well. I think David Gordon Green and team really fumbled the ball on the execution. Overall, I'm thankful for this trilogy. However, being that it was a trilogy, looking back, there were many opportunities to have written a trilogy that makes more sense and has a more satisfying final chapter.
Well Laurie seaked therapy after realizing Myers was never after her...she's not fully healed in Ends still but decided to liberate herself like her daughter wanted. 4 years is a long time for therapy
I've been a massive Halloween fan my whole life and I enjoyed all three movies in this new trilogy. Halloween 2018 was the probably the best, Kills was a super fun gory slasher, and Ends was an interesting study on evil. I hate that it was marketed so poorly. I think more people would have appreciated it if they knew what they were going to really be watching.
Great analysis, keep ‘em coming. The the best movies since the original for certain. The cohesion between the films is the sum of their parts. Their short comings don’t amount in comparison to their strengths. The sum of their parts, in my humble opinion, is awesomeness. You had the saying reversed, my friend.
On the note of the Sequel Trilogy comparison? Honestly it fits... to a degree. DGG's trilogy is basically what I imagined would've happened if the ST had the guts to continue with the themes of its second movie and see them through to fruition instead of through a combination of studio cowardice, a rushed development cycle and being absolutely screwed over by real life circumstances being forced into having an ending that tries its damnedest to please absolutely everyone. What I appreciate about Ends and really the whole trilogy as a Halloween fan is that it really felt like DGG and co. weren't just fans of Halloween but rather they appreciated film and especially the works of John Carpenter so rather than just doing what they easily could've done which was make a trilogy of disposable slasher films where it's all about the nostalgia and seeing Michael kill people? They chose to make a proper story with things to not only say but it also refocused the franchise to a degree not even H20 managed. I've said this in another comment section and people were baffled but honestly upon rewatching H1 through Kills in preparation for Ends? If you really pay attention to the 78 film, Michael Myers... really isn't that big of a focus in the original. And by that I mean Michael the man. His presence is felt throughout the movie through Loomis' dialogue and his stalking but unlike Jason, later Elm Street films with Freddy or even the later Halloween movies, Michael is really not the focus. They more play up his lack of humanity, the evil he represents and how horrifying his actions are rather than the person. If you watch the films from H2 onward? A notable shift occurs and the films really stop being so much about the people and how they're terrorized by this unfeeling psychopath but rather how much fun it is to watch said unfeeling psychopath rip and tear through this Illinois town and how much fun we're having getting to shriek or curl up as he does impossible feats like stabbing people with shotguns or crushing heads. This new trilogy is the first trilogy to realize that Michael is the one to be afraid of and that he's not someone to celebrate but it's not in what could've so easily been a screed against slasher fans but rather it's done by people who are slasher fans that just want to do right by the original creator and as a result, the movies we got feel like a proper return to form and most of the issues people could bring up are addressed by the movies and looking at the trilogy as a whole. For instance, people asking why Michael is so weak in Ends? H18 and Kills have the explanation, they make it clear injuries stick for Michael even if in the moment he can still do things like get up after being shot six times out a two-story balcony where he falls spine-first onto the hard ground and how the only reason he's not weak right then is that there is no time to see how those injuries are affecting him and of course the thing you mentioned about how he's not maintaining himself as well as Smith's Grove did. They bring up what Laurie said in Kills? It's easy to mention how the line immediately following it mentions how the true curse of Michael is fear and that the track that plays throughout that scene is "Michael's Legend", meaning she's more referring to the legend of the boogeyman and how with every kill, that fear and legend grows which is further emphasized by the conclusion she came to while writing her book. The trilogy works overall as a trilogy, the only thing I can say is that maybe it doesn't work for some people because the story they expected/wanted is not the story they got which was never the goal of the crew. They didn't set out to make a trilogy that just pleased people with kills, they did what storytellers should be more concerned with. They told the story they felt was right while being willing to take risks and whether or not those risks worked is ultimately up to the individual.
Before Kills and Ends came out, I thought to myself for years that no matter how either of them turned out, good or bad, I couldn't deny that Green and Carpenter would at least genuinely try to make all 3 films in the trilogy as good as they can be and wasn't just doing it to make money. And even after seeing both movies and knowing that each movie in this new trilogy has it's flaws, more specifically Kills and ESPECIALLY Ends (just my personal opinion lol), I still think that. When the pandemic hit and they delayed both Kills and Ends, they put out a statement explaining why they delayed it and that they thought about every other option to not delay it, but ultimately had to for the benefit of everyone, both the audience and people involved in making them. And on top of putting out a statement explaining why, they also made both movies available in IMAX for a limited time, put out a teaser trailer for Kills at the same time as the announcement, and said that they would use the pandemic to fix up post production for Kills and the script for Ends. They didn't have to do any of those things like 99% of other filmmakers and studios would do, but they did because they wanted to make up for the delay and give audiences the best experiences they could give. This alone screams "We want these movies to be good" and is the main reason why I can't believe they only made these movies for money.
It does nothing but prove that they genuinely care about the franchise and wanted to make good Halloween films. If this was a cash grab, would would have just gotten 3 copy and paste 2018’s, but instead they gave us a tribute to Carpenter’s Halloween, a tribute the slasher genre which Halloween popularized, then they gave us their own original take on the franchise.
I don’t hate Halloween Ends, I just think the story could have been executed far smarter. I actually liked the idea of evil passing onto someone else, but Corey should have been introduced in either 2018 or Kills to allow the audience to grow more attached to his character. I have a feeling this will be one of those movies people started off disliking but will eventually come around to appreciate 5 or 10 years later once they understand the themes and message the film was trying to put out there. Also, a common complaint I hear people have is Michael Myers not being in the movie enough. Fun fact, Michael actually has more screen time in Ends than he did in the original 1978 film, but that movie gets a pass because it’s a horror classic. So that should let you know that criticism is invalid.
@@unicrost question: can a film (or a piece of art in general) be objectively considered good/bad or is that always a subjective statement? I'm not a film student, but personally I hold the second position, with "good" and "bad" art being mostly a consensus that tends to follow trends that later are taken as rules but strictly speaking they aren't. However, I am not dying on that hill by any means, and that's why I phrase it as a question. I also have "bad" movies I like (Speed Racer) and "good" movies I don't like (Citizen Kane). But when talking about movies I often try to avoid those adjetives and instead try to frame it as whether if it worked or if it didn't, for me and for the audience in general (which isn't entirely on the movie, an awful lot of it comes down to the taste of people and critics of a certain time and place). In this specific case, for some reason I do have this gut feeling that Ends will be appreciated more over time (specially comparing it with some of the other sequels, and once Ends isn't "the new kid" anymore they'll be on kinda more even ground). But I can't see the future, I might be wrong, it might just be wishful thinking xd
How I think they could have executed this film while keeping the themes thus described in the video intact would have been to mostly focus on the conclusion of Michael's and Laurie's story. At rhe same time set up Corey as a potentially dangerous individual with serious problems who gets inspired by Michael's story and inevitable infamy to let his own murderous urges loose and begin killing people himself. This would have kept the theme of evil passing on to others intact in a much more believable way and created a flip to Laurie's happy ending. As Laurie finally conquers her bogeyman, Corey sets out to find his first victims, beginning the nightmare anew for other people. Evil never dies.
I strongly, *strongly* agree sir, great video. This h40 timeline pays the most respect to Carpenter's original vision, as in the original people forget the name Michael Myers isn't the the name that truly is at the forefront of the film, at least thematically, tonally speaking especially. Oh no... It's "The Shape" and "The Boogeyman" the fact the evil is named MM, is irrelevant, DGG helped us realize this with Halloween Ends. I think it's a large part of that unique mystique Myers/The Shape has in comparison to other slasher/horror franchises. He helped us see this through Corey, and in Ends in particular, in a very character-study format not too unlike something like Taxi Driver etc. That's what Halloween Ends felt like to me in all the best possible ways, It felt like Taxi Driver, Christine and Halloween (1978) had a baby lol. I love how DGG and co. explored so much lore and mythos of MM/"The Shape/Boogeyman" yet leaving so many questions up to viewer interpretation. Way I see it is Corey was/Is..? becoming Haddonfield's new Boogeyman, building on Michael's legacy. So Halloween could end for now lol, but that unique Evil that powers Michael and Corey and makes them into THe Shape *can.t. Be. Stopped. That was the message IMHO. Just my two cents though.
@@tylersmith2849 the last 3 sucked because they had no angle. 3 movies with nooooo continuity and the most hated. Say what you want about 4, 5 and 6 they're not hated like these movies. Even Rob Zombies movies didn't divide like these trilogies did
@@andrewebb3283 Halloween 2018 sucked???? It's the best sequel to the original Halloween in my opinion and that's also the critical concensus. Sorry man but Michael going after his "little sister" is not scary in the slightest bit. I don't care about that. I don't want to know why he kills, takes away from his character. People are hating on this trilogy because Ends went off the rails with the story and everyone now a days is a complete Karen when critiquing movies. If you like Michael being controlled by a cult,, Micheal breaking down into tears with a man bun, Michael wearing a mask that looks retarded in 4 and walking around like he crapped himself go back and watch those sequels.
@@tylersmith2849 ok, to everything you said but they said this would be adult tightly written sequels. Continuity was gonna be paramount but ALLLLLLLL 3 movies were different and He wrote like a college student.
I respect this review a lot compared to a lot of other people's reviews on these films. I think you actually understand what they were going for in this trilogy. I'd love to see your take on other popular/hated films that drew controversy whether they are a good or bad film. Great work!
Thank you. You earned a sub. Also that music in the background sounds like Resident Evil save music? It's a really nice piece of music. I love the new trilogy and I see the issue yes. But Michael is finally what he needs to be. An idea. A hollow evil that influences others around him. That white mask of blank. Those eyes of evil. The emptiness of killing for seemingly no reason. But it's not just Michael. Evil lives on. Cory is that concept brought to life. That evil can come from anywhere. The only thing I wish we had more was Loomis. But alas he's there in spirit. Also one thing Ends can say without a doubt. Michael is dead. And I love the trilogy for that. Looking forward to more insightful videos and opinions. ✌️
I think many Halloween fans don't find that it's a terrible movie , they just don't think it belongs or like it as the 3rd in the trilogy they don't like Michael taking a back seat. It's not a bad movie at all, but it's not great either.
That reasoning if you don't mind me providing my two cents, I feel in part comes down the same reason as to why Kills was also divisive... they expected one thing and the filmmakers gave them something different and rather than trying to judge it on those merits? They instead chose to judge it in comparison to what they didn't get and their disappointment. Think about it, they looked at the trailers for Kills and thought probably it was gonna be a movie about Laurie, Tommy and Haddonfield hunting Michael and getting ready to kick his ass, like the town itself is gonna have its revenge and work to fix the mistake that occurred when Michael was saved from the burning compound... then the film gives them a story on the trauma of a community and in a way subverts certain tropes of slasher sequels by giving us a higher body count but in a way that does not glorify the kills and instead plays up the emotion. Ends is the same way, it markets itself ultimately as being the final time Laurie and Michael will face each other and the end of this trilogy but it never promises that it's just gonna be a movie of that... and people are then upset because it's not a movie about Michael and Laurie just scrapping for the entire runtime or it's not a movie of Michael just murdering people despite the fact they got Kills for that and how the Halloween they're thinking of for that is the original sequels which did put a greater emphasis on Michael and his kills. I feel like in time, eventually people will look back at these films with no expectations and for what they're actually trying to present and might find more to enjoy.
@@the-aspiring-creator4249 I think that's part of the reason I enjoyed ends more than other people. I avoided the marketing and didn't set my expectations high and ended up enjoying the film much more than I expected.
Halloween, Halloween 2, and Halloween H20, I personally think that this was the superior collection within all of the films. H20 Also "definitively" killed off Michael too, so nothing that they do is ever over, but that was the best shot at truly feeling completed. Now I personally like the idea of Michael and Laurie not being related as per the original over them being siblings, and so with that, I appreciate the undoing that, but I honestly felt it more disrespectful to undo seven movies, while stealing ideas from them, to make an at best adequate set of films, that were in no way needed,
I can see so much potential in Ends, and it's just a couple of reshoots away from being a good, if not great, movie. Have a scene that connects Kills to Ends, with the house being pulled down. Have Myers pretty much dead in the sewers, and have Corey be more independent, simply using the Shape costume to hide his crimes. Have Michael stalk and pursue COREY and then only fight Michael by chance. As you say, have Corey become the new Shape. It's basically the same character, but with a new name.
The Green trilogy was all over the place for me. I enjoyed 2018, and I just see it as an alternative sequel to the original, but I also have a soft spot for Halloween II. I'm not crazy about Mikey and Lorey being related, but in my mind, both are solid endings to the original movie.
I'm willing to defend the first two thirds of this trilogy. It's crazy that all three of these films were written and directed by the same people. Halloween Ends feels like it was made by someone who didn't care to watch the other two.
I enjoyed Ends for what it was but hated it as a finale, but this video has really made me look at it the way Green probably intended. This Halloween trilogy isn’t about Laurie, the trilogy really is about Haddonfield. 2018 is about Laurie the survivor, Kills is about the people of Haddonfield, and Ends is about Corey, the new shape of evil. This entire trilogy shows the effects of Michael Myers through Haddonfield, and looking at it that way makes it more pleasing to watch since you realize Laurie really opens and closes this trilogy instead of being the main character all throughout it.
The common complaints I see for H Ends is why introduce the Corey character at the end of a trilogy? Michael is hardly in the movie when he is supposed to be the face of the franchise. I get that DDG was trying to make a movie that had a bit more substance and depth to it, but we really didn't need the Corey character in the film and just make the movie about Laurie, Alison, Lyndsay and Frank with Michael stalking in the shadow's. It's not that the Corey Cunningham arc was bad, it isn't, its a good story in of itself but it feels like it belongs as an anthology film rather than part of the Halloween franchise. Also I didn't like seeing Michael being vulnerable and being bullied and manhandled by Corey as it ruins the mystique of the character.
I love a couple things about this trilogy. I love the whole first film, and I love how in Kills Frank says ‘He’s just a six year old boy, with the strength of a man and mind of an animal.’ I also like the idea of the riot scene but the execution was awful. I also love how in Ends it casts further doubt by Corey wearing the scarecrow mask and doing the infamous head tilt. I felt like that was such a clever way to do it, probably the most intelligent thing that film done. My problem is Corey. His character is all over the place, he starts off as this kind, caring kid and then just starts acting insane. If this is how they wanted to go, they should’ve just made it clear he was an unhinged psychopath. But he was caring and genuinely regretted what happened to the kid
Great encapsulation of what makes these films work. You're more positive on this trilogy than I am, I love and defend the DGG timeline but think it's too inconsistent. Thank you for fighting the good fight!
I (mostly) agree with all of your points here. I think Halloween 2018 and Kills were both fantastic and near perfect (in my opinion). I just wish Ends took place on the same night to make the trilogy more coherent.
This trilogy is near perfect to me and they are some of my favorite films to come out in the last few years. There are so many reasons I love these films especially Halloween Ends that film was nothing like I was expecting or wanting but it blew me away and it's my favorite film of the year maybe even the last couple years.
I feel if Corey appeared in 2018 and Kills, it would've been a good foreshadowing as a surprise slasher for Ends rather than Corey appearing abruptly. Ends to me felt more like a filler sequel for a trilogy rather than a climatic end. Though it's an alright film for being different.
I appreciate the direction taken in this trilogy. It’s certainly my preferred timeline for the Halloween films and I think Ends provided a respectable conclusion to Michael Myers. Though I do think it would have been cool if after grinding up Michael, Laurie returns home to see Corey along with Michael’s mask gone.
I think that was gonna be the original ending just the director wanted to have more of a feeling of finality at the end and not leave any room for further sequels.
The only problem I had with this trilogy was in Kills. When the mob took Michael down, he pulled a knife out of his neck, then killed everyone in the mob. I felt that was so convoluted and especially with all the blows he took, he should have stayed down.
I disagree that’s there a flow between the films in the new trilogy. There wasn’t a coherent flow. Laurie’s character in the third film is completely opposite to what it was in the in the first of the trilogy. She waited and prepared for 40 years for Myers’ return, but then after he disappears and has killed her own daughter, she’s suddenly not concerned with him anymore? Come on now. If there was a coherent thread through the trilogy, then Corey should have been introduced in 2018 accidentally killing the kid, then in Kills he’s the guy the town suspects instead of the penguin dude, they beat him down but don’t kill him. Then Ends should have taken place a couple of weeks after, giving Corey time to find Michael and start to work with him. Now, we’ve had a continuous story thread, we know the character and the character has been fleshed out and developed, and it shows how the town had created the evil in Corey. Boom, trilogy fixed.
hello, TheGravesyard i love all the Halloween films. have you read the novelizations of the blumhouse trilogy? and what did you think of them? i love the books because they go in more depth and explore Michael, laurie and Corey better than the movies did, especially the novelization of Halloween ends.(plus the book had more Michael Myers)
I like Halloween 2018 and Halloween Kills. And I don't think Halloween Ends is a bad movie. Simply one, that went in the wrong direction, at least for me. So for me, this trilogy was totally worth it, despite the last one not sticking the landing quite right.
For me, the thing that really ruined Halloween Ends was it's lack of consistency with the previous two films. Laurie has been traumatised for 40 years and with where Kills left off I can't buy her just getting over it even after 4 years. Then there's Michael who goes from being an unstoppable, superhuman killing machine in Halloween Kills to being a frail old man who gets his ass handed to him for pretty much all his screentime in Ends. Kills built up all this mystique about him and then Halloween Ends comes along and completely contradicts everything that the previous film told us about him. In Kills Laurie says that she used to think Michael was flesh and blood and that a human couldn't survive what he's been through, and then Ends comes along and she says that he's just a man. I know David Gordon Green has been adamant about Michael not being supernatural but everything that we've seen flies in the face of that. For the end of this new trilogy I really hoped for more.
Myers is flesh lol yall take the Loomis dialogue too literally and Laurie had seeked therapy after 2018 once she realized Myers wasn't after her and after Karen got killed
I just feel like all three films are better than anything else the franchise has had to offer. They were made with care and respect to the original with a plan in mind to build off what made the first movie great. I almost wish there was a 4th because it still feels like there was some story left to tell. But I’m overall satisfied with the ending and doubt any other entry is gonna top them.
Halloween Ends would’ve worked better if it was 2018 IMO, have Michael break out while Corey is loosing his mind and becoming a copy cat, they cross paths and Michael encounters Alyson through Corey, stalking her until it leads to Laurie who’s trying to better herself and rebuild her relationship with her family
Great take on the trilogy, just a couple things: David Gordon Green absolutely killed off Corey for the reason you assumed, he confirmed it already in an interview. Also, with Halloween 4, the ending wasnt retconned. Just like with H20, it was a fakeout, they intended to reveal Laurie killed a medic the entire time and they also never intended Jamie to be the killer in the next film, Malek Akkad,etc. have confirmed that as well. I think some fans ultimately misunderstand Blumhouse's job here as well. Jason Blum clarified, Ends is only the end of the trilogy, not the franchise, noting the disconnect between what the creators are promising and what some fans erroneously thought they were promised. Im also a lifelong fan of Halloween, my favorite film of all time. and though i love all the films for different reasons, i gotta say this trilogy is the best addition to the original that we've gotten over the years.
Dang, that's kinda disappointing to hear the Halloween 4 ending was planned like H20, but I appreciate you letting me know. I gotta watch more of the behind-the-scenes stuff from these movies.
@TheGravesyard indeed. The documentaries give all the dirt on how the entries came to be. It's wild, alot of times the staff wasn't even on the same page, yet alone The audience. I think you're gonna enjoy it all though. They definitely give a greater perspective on the movies. Keep up the great content!
Michael did die in Halloween 2007 but the studio wanted a sequel which rob didn’t, sucks they did do a sequel otherwise 2007 Halloween but be a cult movie today
That’s not THE actual Michael Myers character (Rob Zombies Michael is the only other different counterpart in the franchise but the rest is the exact same character)
I love Halloween ends it takes away from just stabbing and killing to an actual build up to something. It lacks horror but I think It is still fine, and a great movie.
I liked Halloween franchise with each director and it’s cast throughout the series with different protagonist different people playing Michael Myers did a great job.😊
Awesome video! Really, I agree overall that it was probably the best way to end the trilogy, even if it wasn't to everyone's liking. Although, I do say this from a place of only having seen the first movie and the trilogy ^^; I don't have any strong ties one way or another for the series or it's characters and story. From a writing standpoint, however, I don't see the movie as incredible, but it's not terrible either and leans closer to a "good enough, i enjoyed it" status. (about to go into depth here on Cory's inclusion itself, so feel free to just ignore the rest if you already get the vibe xD ) I don't mind Cory as a character. It was probably the only way they could fit certain elements without rehashing beat for beat any previous movie. He can be more than just a plot point to get Lori and her family involved in Michael's carnage again (even though in some scenes it really feels like that's all he is). Cory's perspective shows more the small evils cycling around the community. He was a young man when the town started rejecting him and if we consider his abusive parents, he's been forced to collect those little evils earlier in life too. The film maintains this general sense of cycling hatred and how It affects everyone, particularly Lori (and her granddaughter), Cory, and Michael. Lori and her family were trying to live their best life despite the rejection of the town. Where they had each other to help them let go of the past and ignore the haters, Cory was never allowed to let it go. Even people who didn't know him had secondhand hate for him. It lead Cory straight to Michael. His narrative purpose is a bridge between Lori and Michael. To force their interaction again and tie what they represent. We literally do not know what Michael Meyers feels, if he hates, if he cares about anything, or if he has wants beyond filling people with knives, nothing. From what I've seen, it's preferred by fans for Michael to be as ambiguously evil as possible. Sometimes we don't really know what causes people to do evil and that is The Shape's draw. If we slot Michael in Cory's stead, it doesn't really work out, for several obvious and logical reasons. We aren't going to see the town quite the same as we do with Cory or Lori. Ultimately, it all breaks down into Lori, who kills for revenge and protection, Michael, who has no discernible reason, and Cory, who is kinda this middle ground of "is it revenge, defense, or because of The Shape's senseless evil?" It's likely bits of all three and everywhere in between. Allowing Cory to live after Halloween Ends is shaky territory, especially if the fans already dislike his inclusion into this film. In my opinion, his death accentuates the fact that he story isn't really about him, it's about the community as a whole and the way they spread bits of hate and evil through the town until it continually resurfaced as a large threat beyond anyone's control (except Lori cause she's badass). *(random, nonsensical headcanon just now that Michael is so weak in Ends because Lori gave up living in absolute fear of him and was trying to be happy, thus deadening his evil power... or you know, what you said about him being human and limited in that regard xD )
I like all 3 of the movies, each have some issues but I enjoy all 3 of them. Kills is my favorite of the trilogy because of the kills and we get more of Michael Myers in it. Also the music was great in it. 2018 was really good, and Ends was good. It's not perfect but I still think all three of these movies are better than Halloween 5, Rob zombie's Halloween 2 and even Halloween resurrection. Also John Carpenter gave us some amazing scores with 2018, Kills and now Ends. Along with Cody Carpenter and Daniel Dave's.
I’ve felt exactly the same way with this trilogy as you did. Curious tho, what editing programs and microphone did you use for this clip? I’m considering on doing some reviews myself.
2018 is by far the best sequel and the best return to form for the franchise. 🎃 Kills was lacking storytelling and dialogue. Ends was lacking Michael Myers.
I liked it but i really understand the complaints. the trilogy is all over the place. i really respect Halloween Ends for the bold swings it takes but i can totally see why other people wanted Halloween Ends to be something different
My biggest problem wasn't about the idea of two michael or evil change shape The problem was Corey's motivation and develop Corey's impression is the edgy emo guy from 2006 who kills just because of an accident and with a single look of Michael, he is just evil and behaves pretty cringy with Allyson, the movie feels so old, maybe if the TV series of Halloween is real, this movie could be an episode. Also how the town blames Laurie without explanation Only if we theorize that she crashed the bus in 2018 (cause it was the case) we can agree it, but Green never tells the casual audience directly about it, just after watching 10 times the movie, you can see clearly how Laurie reacts when news talks about the bus crash. Finally the original script of beginning the movie with Michael's death (or surviving it's death in the radio tower with huge injured, explaining why he is so weak in Ends), Corey meeting Allyson in the same night, and then Michael hears someone is using it's name to kill people, and Myers main objective is killing Corey, cause there's only one boogeyman in the town. Or using a real teamwork between this two, could be better. I don't hate the main idea of Ends but how they develop feels rushed, maybe 1 or 2 years could be enough
For me, I absolutely enjoyed Halloween 2018 and Ends! I liked Kills, but Kills was for sure the weakest in the trilogy! you literally described every thing that I loved about this trilogy and why it was more enjoyable than other timelines EX: (H4, 5 and 6)! They were terrible! Finally someone sheds light on this!
the best set !! your nuts ! H2018 Gr8 A, HKills B+/A-, End solid D....J.C. H1 A , orig H2 still the scariest A+ H4 A+ H5 C , H6 Trash F- F(both Cuts) H20 C H8 C Rob Zombie H1 A! R.Z.H2 C+
nice vid, but theres no point in trying to decipher these movies because none of them are supposed to exist, Michael's story was supposed to end in 1978, he was supposed to disappear into the night and have people always wondering what or who he was, and that would have been glorious, for me the only other true halloween movie is 3, which stayed true to john carpenters brilliant vision of making halloween an anthology series of movies. oh well
The direction Ends went in is just baffling to me. It felt like they were setting up for a big finale with the first two films then in the final one they just decided at the last second to go in this totally out of left field direction. It just doesn’t work and it’s not a good film. Felt like two completely different films mashed together. Everything that was set up in the first two acts is completely thrown away in the final act and they fall right back on the same old shit to end the series. Would’ve rather just had same old shit for all three acts. At least would’ve been a cohesive film. Also just throwing it out there that the novelizations were way better and expanded on things more and actually explained stuff.
I just watched 78, 2018, and Ends as it’s own trilogy. I skipped Kills because it really isn’t needed and honestly? Ends works much better as a sequel to 2018 than it does Kills. Kills wasn’t needed.
I feel that Kills is the weakest of the four, but I wouldn’t say it’s useless story-wise. It completely opens up the story from just being about Laurie and her family, to the entire town - which end up playing a vital part in Ends as they are ultimately what drive Corey to become the monster they think he is. Without Kills I feel like it’d be a pretty jarring story leap as we wouldn’t get to see how Haddonfield dealt with the tragedy, it would just be a straight transition from a normal town, to one that is just completely traumatised.
I can totally see what you mean by that. To an extent, I even agree with you. However, I feel like the town was already a little weird in 2018. They certainly already judged Laurie as the town weirdo. I would Argue that skipping Kills and just watching Ends makes the idea of her spending 40 goddamn years building that trap in order to trap Michael so much more effective because it makes it seem more like he got out of the fire all messed up because he’s just supposed to be a man in that movie right? At least that’s what DGG kept saying. So he escapes all pissed, kills a shit ton of random haddonfield residents and then just VANISHES like a fart in the wind. I can buy that that would be enough to get us to how the town is in Ends. It also makes the idea of Michael being so weak in Ends make more sense as there’s no stupid “transcending.” It also improves things by NOT including the 15 minute Hawkins opening in Kills where they make it seem that it’s of vital importance that Hawkins blows Michaels brains out….only to completely drop that part of his story arc. There’s also none of the evil dies tonight shit either. And while I’m on the subject of Kills, I don’t really like how amped up they made Michael in Kills. To me, Michael is scarier when he’s being the silent stalker in the shadows that then strikes like a snake. Save the gratuitous slasher shit for a Jason flick. Skipping Kills also makes the Sartain twist more satisfying because we see how being around Michael seems to corrupt minds. It wasn’t just Corey this happened to. Also, wasn’t it originally announced that DGG was going to make TWO Halloween flicks back to back? I wonder if after the first one came out, Blumhouse told DGG to make it a trilogy and that’s why Kills just feels like so much blood soaked fluff to me?
Yes, DDG trilogy brought Halloween and Michael Myers back to the original roots. No family relations. No thorn. No hip-hop, MTV bullshit cast. Just plain classic Michael, the boogeyman, plain and simple.
He’s evil. Never would team up but… the thing was The Shape literally is diff to Michael Myers since it takes shape of a man but isn’t human and anybody can take up a shape. Literal Jeremy was hearing voices and stuff and he could have been the next Michael Myers but Corey instead was yet the original evil came back. COVID delayed stuff so the original script was scrapped guess pressure not that much of a fault. Ends has it’s ups too tho cuz we see Michael stalking and he is more like how he was in the beginning
In the Halloween (2018) book says that Michael remembers Laurie, but well... Congratulations, I loved your video and i already subscribed to your channel. This trilogy is my absolute favorite Halloween sequel timeline. Halloween (2018) is easily the best Halloween sequel overall, even critics and more of the half of the fandom are agree. When Halloween (2018) come out, it was a big success, and becomes the most successful slasher film of all time at the box office. This trilogy has better cinematography, better soundtrack, better visuals, the best Michael (James Jude Courtney) and Jamie Lee Curtis and John Carpenter involved. I even loved ENDS a lot, and the book is even better, it has more Michael Myers on it and more kills by him. Corey becomes one of my favorite characters in the whole franchise too and Jamie Lee Curtis performance was GREAT. Is ok if some of you don't like the movie, it's valid, but if your a hater, you are ridiculousl. The only Halloween movies that I care about are: Halloween (1978) Halloween II (1981) Halloween (2018) Halloween Kills Halloween Ends
Can we just shoutout "(Don't Fear) The Reaper" and the perfect final shot to close the trilogy??? I'm I the only one that really appreciate that?
I actually didn't notice at first but my friend actually excitedly pointed it out while we were watching the ending on Peacock!
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Dude your background music, mad respect to you for playing the safe room theme from Resident Evil Code Veronica X
@@anthony-ei3nj One of my fav RE games!
I appreciate your take on these films and your respect for opposing opinions. While all three films in the new trilogies are not without their flaws, I don't think they deserve quite the amount of hate they're receiving, Ends included. It was smart how you pointed out that Micheal was never after Laurie, so why in Ends would he even have a reason to go after her? Sure it wasn't what people were expecting, but that also doesn't mean it's inherently bad. My biggest problem with Ends was that it didn't feel long enough, Cory took up too much of the film for the climax to have the impact it needed. Maybe in the future, some sort of "redo" or longer version will be released so we can still see as much Micheal as we want to.
Thanks! I can't disagree with you there. More Michael would have been great to balance out Corey.
TOTALLY RIGHT 👉
Honestly this movie just needs an extended cut. The biggest issue with it is not of mocheal myers, and the climax already felt cut short, just have an extended cut that makes the climax a solid 20 minutes longer
@@Gravesyard I love I love I love
@@mouthshovel Exactly, I agree with this. I think people expected the whole movie to just be Laurie vs Micheal, which wouldn't have been smart in the first place IMO, it would make the fight boring and no longer exciting. However, a longer climax definitely would've helped with the feeling of the fight being too rushed.
So many people hated the sister crap but then when a director scraps that and makes Michael just an evil killer with no motive like Carpenter wanted they're still mad lol Ends made Michael what Carpenter intended him to be, not just another slasher, but a force, an identity that can be anyone.
YES!! I personally hate that sister crap, it quite literally destroyed the whole franchise. This new Trilogy is just perfect, and for me it is the definitive sequel to the Original!
John Carpenter never said or intended that evil could be anyone. He always said that the Shape was just pure evil. Not really human. I don’t understand why people think this. It’s insane and you think you understand Halloween more than others. You don’t.
Halloween and The H40 trilogy is the canon timeline it was the true Michael Myers.
@@spider-manunknown9193 there isn’t one canon timeline
Very well said and my thoughts exactly
I love David’s vision finally someone defends this timeline
I love this whole trilogy
Agreed
Is garbage. Kills was a Benny Hill skit.
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Your opinion :) It ain't garbage to us
@@enablednonsense9853 the worlds opinion. This movie is trash and you should burn in Hell for shilling it.
@@enablednonsense9853 Id kill myself if I ran around defending horrible movies that robbed poor fans of millions of dollars.
I thought the new trilogy was decent. I didn't dislike it at all but they weren't my favs. Ends might be my fav of the new ones because it felt more like it's own movie. The other 2 tried to crowbar in so much stuff to say "Look! These are sequels to the original!!!" and I felt like Ends didn't really do that.
Honestly the end shots of Halloween Ends really gave me a sense of nostalgia because of how far we've come. And when "Don't fear the reaper" started playing it was perfect
I am with you. Thank you for your thoughts. I really do appreciate them. I love the David Gordon Green trilogy! I was in tears by the end.
People just like basic slashers but don't care about an actual story and that's this new trilogy. Halloween 2018, Kills, and Ends have wn actual meaning and theme behind them. The thing I see that people don't notice is that all 3 of the movies are about all evil and the effects it causes. Halloween 2018 was what evil will do to you and how it comes back, Kills was evil spreading to Haddonfield and what it does to people, Ends was how evil will change shape and what it turns a innocent person into. Another way they play on this metaphor is in the title sequences.
Halloween 18: The reverse rotting pumpkin and the candle reigniting is the evil coming back.
Halloween kills: The pumpkins in the intro are the people of Haddonfield, and the fire represents the evil spreading to Haddonfield.
Halloween Ends: Evil changes shape, and in the credits, you see a pumpkin that looks like the pumpkin in the 1978 intro credits, and that represents Michael and the next pumpkin smashing out represents Corey and so on.
I think a dead giveaway that shows the metaphor is the end of Lauries memoir when she changes "let him inside" to "let evil inside".
Also in Ends it shows Michael isn't an embodiment of evil he's only a vessel and that's how Corey got his strength. Instead of Michael manifesting his evil in Corey its the evil leaving Michael to have a new and younger vessel.
Here's a defense to the most controversial scenes. While rewatching, Halloween Ends. I realized the why Corey was able to take Michael's mask because when Corey was getting choked by Michael he couldn't do shit but after he looked into his eyes in the sewer that's the evil entering inside of him and after he escaped the sewer and killed the homeless man, that's what gave him his strength. The evil knew Michael was gonna die soon, so it entered into Corey to have a new vessel and that's why Michael became weaker and how Corey was able to take the mask.
I agree with the words that you said. For myself, Halloween is at it's most interesting when it is exploring the lore / motivation of Micheal - which is ironic because it's also at it's best when we DON'T know why Micheal does the things he does.
There needs to be a nice middle ground where the story offers up a possible explanation, but never confirms or expands upon it. Does Michael hunt Lory because he wants to finish what happened in the first film? Are they related? Does he simple proximity to his home causes his hatred? Or does he even think about her?
I feel the sequel trilogy accomplished all of this. It's easy to assume that Mickey is after Lowree, until they show he isn't. The scares are welcomed, but not the highlight of showcasing this character.
Exploring motivations and lore is when I find them most interesting, as well.
Ultimately, the problem I have with the trilogy is that the three films just don’t work coherently. That Laurie would spend forty years fearing and preparing for Michael’s return, then, he does return, and kills half the town, kills her daughter and son-in-law, and now, she has dropped the survivalist bit and wants to bake pumpkin pies makes no sense.
In fact, the movies themselves reveal that the writers had no idea where they were going or what they wanted to do. That the movies were all written by different writing teams, that they were re-written and re-shot multiple times completely shows up in KILLS and ENDS.
In this way, the films are no different from the other sequels: the producers ran out of story to tell, so made a couple more movies that made no sense just to make money.
I feel like when it comes to the Laurie bit, there's a lot of factors that play into that. I'd say just strictly if Ends was a one-year time jump then it could be questioned why she wouldn't be hunting after Michael for vengeance but they establish in Ends it has been four years since Michael's rampage in H18 and Kills and it builds off of what we see in those movies. In H18, Laurie is firmly convinced Michael one day is gonna break out and hunt after her and this paranoia results in two failed marriages, an estranged daughter who the film very much implies was abused by virtue of being deprived of a proper childhood due to her being raised to be ready to kill Michael and it all culminates... in Michael not even caring about her with the one time it seems to register that he might've seen this girl before being the moment they see each other again though that could've easily even have been a misinterpretation by Laurie. Kills then twists that knife by having Hawkins just plainly point out that Michael does not care about Laurie or really anyone and Laurie had to contend with that while also realizing that the obsession with Michael that grabbed her thanks to her paranoia got so many people killed, including an innocent man and someone who she once protected back in 1978.
Ends continues that because apparently when they went back after him, the house was torched and Michael vanished, showing that it really was only the house he seemed to have some attachment to and this left Laurie with years to self-reflect on her life and how Michael did not care about her as well as the nature of evil so evidentially, she came to the conclusion that this was the time to start fresh, to not make the same mistakes she made with Karen and just get on with her life. She still has the scars and definitely has trauma but she's not gonna let it define her life. I don't think it's a sign the writers had no idea and were just doing things for money, it's just how they saw fit to continue the story and if you watch all three movies? Thematically it's all there. If Laurie was still the survivalist going after Michael? That movie could've still worked certainly but they just chose not to go in that direction and instead make a smaller scale, much quieter movie that focuses on the characters and themes that were present even back in the original Halloween and Carpenter's other movies.
@@the-aspiring-creator4249: I appreciate the well-thought-out reply. My personal opinion is that every 'Halloween' sequel vindicates John Carpenter's stance that there never should have been a 'Halloween II.' The first movie was perfect in its story, scope, and execution, and every sequel has diminished the lore of that first film. There was nowhere to go with the story after 'Halloween (1978)', and every sequel proves that.
There are thirteen 'Halloween' movies. I really enjoy about half of them. There are three or four that are a mixed bag, and that's where 'Halloween Ends' lands. And there are two or three I think are just bad movies that I rarely watch.
I understand the conundrum faced by writers and directors. If you make the movie everyone wants, that will be boring for the filmmakers. You'll end-up with another 'Halloween II,' another 'Halloween 4,' another 'H20,' another 'Halloween (2018).' This probably isn't what directors really want to do, because rather than employing their own style and telling their own story, they're studying John Carpenter and Dean Cundey, and trying really hard to copy them.
That's more satisfying for a mass audience, but it's boring for creativity. Unfortunately, if you take a chance and go really far outside the box, like 'Halloween III' or 'Halloween Ends,' you end-up losing your audience.
I can understand David Gordon Green's and the writers' desire not to do another conventional 'Halloween' sequel. I just think if they were going to take the risk, the execution needed to be a lot better. It's a highly questionable decision to introduce a new character and make him and his love story with Allison the focus of the movie. But if you're going to do that, you need to tell a story that makes sense.
A lot of stuff you mention about Laurie's character growth would have been great to see, but it wasn't in the movie. 'Halloween Kills' ends where, after forty years of preparing for Him - I will refer to "it" as "him" - Michael Myers escaped, killed the entire fire department, killed half the town, killed her daughter, and now, Laurie's listening to the Shape breathe over the phone.
In 'Halloween Ends,' we pick-up and and Laurie is in domestic, pie-baking mode. I would have loved to have seen what Laurie went through to get over her daughter's murder and Michael's rampage, but we don't get that depicted onscreen.
The main problem with the movie is that it takes place over four days. To make the love story more believable, Allison and Corey would have needed to have met each other long before the evening of October 27th, which is where 'Halloween Ends' begins. It ends the evening of October 31st.
It would have helped the movie to spend more time with Corey as a normal guy going through some shit, and then have his infection by and eventual transformation into Evil take place over a longer period of time.
That the movie lacks these things makes it unbalanced. It's like they had some interesting ideas for both Corey and Laurie, but they never were able to complete them. It's like they wanted to tell this story about Corey Cunningham, but then they remembered they needed to have this final confrontation between Michael and Laurie. So, they spent an hour and forty minutes telling the story of Corey Cunningham. Then, they kill him him off, and here's Michael Myers to have his fight with Laurie and she wins and throws him in the car compactor.
Personally, if this was how they were going to execute it, I would prefer another 'Halloween II,' 'Halloween 4,' or 'Halloween (2018).' If you're going to take these risks and intentionally write a story you know the audience isn't going to like, then you really need to execute it well. I think David Gordon Green and team really fumbled the ball on the execution.
Overall, I'm thankful for this trilogy. However, being that it was a trilogy, looking back, there were many opportunities to have written a trilogy that makes more sense and has a more satisfying final chapter.
Well Laurie seaked therapy after realizing Myers was never after her...she's not fully healed in Ends still but decided to liberate herself like her daughter wanted. 4 years is a long time for therapy
Great analysis. I’m also a fan of the consistency of this trilogy. Keep it up man. Excited to see what u talk about next
I've been a massive Halloween fan my whole life and I enjoyed all three movies in this new trilogy. Halloween 2018 was the probably the best, Kills was a super fun gory slasher, and Ends was an interesting study on evil. I hate that it was marketed so poorly. I think more people would have appreciated it if they knew what they were going to really be watching.
Great analysis, keep ‘em coming. The the best movies since the original for certain. The cohesion between the films is the sum of their parts. Their short comings don’t amount in comparison to their strengths. The sum of their parts, in my humble opinion, is awesomeness. You had the saying reversed, my friend.
On the note of the Sequel Trilogy comparison? Honestly it fits... to a degree. DGG's trilogy is basically what I imagined would've happened if the ST had the guts to continue with the themes of its second movie and see them through to fruition instead of through a combination of studio cowardice, a rushed development cycle and being absolutely screwed over by real life circumstances being forced into having an ending that tries its damnedest to please absolutely everyone.
What I appreciate about Ends and really the whole trilogy as a Halloween fan is that it really felt like DGG and co. weren't just fans of Halloween but rather they appreciated film and especially the works of John Carpenter so rather than just doing what they easily could've done which was make a trilogy of disposable slasher films where it's all about the nostalgia and seeing Michael kill people? They chose to make a proper story with things to not only say but it also refocused the franchise to a degree not even H20 managed. I've said this in another comment section and people were baffled but honestly upon rewatching H1 through Kills in preparation for Ends? If you really pay attention to the 78 film, Michael Myers... really isn't that big of a focus in the original.
And by that I mean Michael the man. His presence is felt throughout the movie through Loomis' dialogue and his stalking but unlike Jason, later Elm Street films with Freddy or even the later Halloween movies, Michael is really not the focus. They more play up his lack of humanity, the evil he represents and how horrifying his actions are rather than the person. If you watch the films from H2 onward? A notable shift occurs and the films really stop being so much about the people and how they're terrorized by this unfeeling psychopath but rather how much fun it is to watch said unfeeling psychopath rip and tear through this Illinois town and how much fun we're having getting to shriek or curl up as he does impossible feats like stabbing people with shotguns or crushing heads. This new trilogy is the first trilogy to realize that Michael is the one to be afraid of and that he's not someone to celebrate but it's not in what could've so easily been a screed against slasher fans but rather it's done by people who are slasher fans that just want to do right by the original creator and as a result, the movies we got feel like a proper return to form and most of the issues people could bring up are addressed by the movies and looking at the trilogy as a whole. For instance, people asking why Michael is so weak in Ends? H18 and Kills have the explanation, they make it clear injuries stick for Michael even if in the moment he can still do things like get up after being shot six times out a two-story balcony where he falls spine-first onto the hard ground and how the only reason he's not weak right then is that there is no time to see how those injuries are affecting him and of course the thing you mentioned about how he's not maintaining himself as well as Smith's Grove did. They bring up what Laurie said in Kills? It's easy to mention how the line immediately following it mentions how the true curse of Michael is fear and that the track that plays throughout that scene is "Michael's Legend", meaning she's more referring to the legend of the boogeyman and how with every kill, that fear and legend grows which is further emphasized by the conclusion she came to while writing her book. The trilogy works overall as a trilogy, the only thing I can say is that maybe it doesn't work for some people because the story they expected/wanted is not the story they got which was never the goal of the crew. They didn't set out to make a trilogy that just pleased people with kills, they did what storytellers should be more concerned with. They told the story they felt was right while being willing to take risks and whether or not those risks worked is ultimately up to the individual.
I absolutely loved this trilogy and I'm glad I'm not alone.
Before Kills and Ends came out, I thought to myself for years that no matter how either of them turned out, good or bad, I couldn't deny that Green and Carpenter would at least genuinely try to make all 3 films in the trilogy as good as they can be and wasn't just doing it to make money. And even after seeing both movies and knowing that each movie in this new trilogy has it's flaws, more specifically Kills and ESPECIALLY Ends (just my personal opinion lol), I still think that.
When the pandemic hit and they delayed both Kills and Ends, they put out a statement explaining why they delayed it and that they thought about every other option to not delay it, but ultimately had to for the benefit of everyone, both the audience and people involved in making them. And on top of putting out a statement explaining why, they also made both movies available in IMAX for a limited time, put out a teaser trailer for Kills at the same time as the announcement, and said that they would use the pandemic to fix up post production for Kills and the script for Ends. They didn't have to do any of those things like 99% of other filmmakers and studios would do, but they did because they wanted to make up for the delay and give audiences the best experiences they could give. This alone screams "We want these movies to be good" and is the main reason why I can't believe they only made these movies for money.
It does nothing but prove that they genuinely care about the franchise and wanted to make good Halloween films. If this was a cash grab, would would have just gotten 3 copy and paste 2018’s, but instead they gave us a tribute to Carpenter’s Halloween, a tribute the slasher genre which Halloween popularized, then they gave us their own original take on the franchise.
I don’t hate Halloween Ends, I just think the story could have been executed far smarter. I actually liked the idea of evil passing onto someone else, but Corey should have been introduced in either 2018 or Kills to allow the audience to grow more attached to his character.
I have a feeling this will be one of those movies people started off disliking but will eventually come around to appreciate 5 or 10 years later once they understand the themes and message the film was trying to put out there.
Also, a common complaint I hear people have is Michael Myers not being in the movie enough. Fun fact, Michael actually has more screen time in Ends than he did in the original 1978 film, but that movie gets a pass because it’s a horror classic. So that should let you know that criticism is invalid.
@@unicrost question: can a film (or a piece of art in general) be objectively considered good/bad or is that always a subjective statement?
I'm not a film student, but personally I hold the second position, with "good" and "bad" art being mostly a consensus that tends to follow trends that later are taken as rules but strictly speaking they aren't. However, I am not dying on that hill by any means, and that's why I phrase it as a question.
I also have "bad" movies I like (Speed Racer) and "good" movies I don't like (Citizen Kane). But when talking about movies I often try to avoid those adjetives and instead try to frame it as whether if it worked or if it didn't, for me and for the audience in general (which isn't entirely on the movie, an awful lot of it comes down to the taste of people and critics of a certain time and place).
In this specific case, for some reason I do have this gut feeling that Ends will be appreciated more over time (specially comparing it with some of the other sequels, and once Ends isn't "the new kid" anymore they'll be on kinda more even ground). But I can't see the future, I might be wrong, it might just be wishful thinking xd
How I think they could have executed this film while keeping the themes thus described in the video intact would have been to mostly focus on the conclusion of Michael's and Laurie's story. At rhe same time set up Corey as a potentially dangerous individual with serious problems who gets inspired by Michael's story and inevitable infamy to let his own murderous urges loose and begin killing people himself. This would have kept the theme of evil passing on to others intact in a much more believable way and created a flip to Laurie's happy ending. As Laurie finally conquers her bogeyman, Corey sets out to find his first victims, beginning the nightmare anew for other people. Evil never dies.
I strongly, *strongly* agree sir, great video. This h40 timeline pays the most respect to Carpenter's original vision, as in the original people forget the name Michael Myers isn't the the name that truly is at the forefront of the film, at least thematically, tonally speaking especially. Oh no...
It's "The Shape" and "The Boogeyman" the fact the evil is named MM, is irrelevant, DGG helped us realize this with Halloween Ends. I think it's a large part of that unique mystique Myers/The Shape has in comparison to other slasher/horror franchises. He helped us see this through Corey, and in Ends in particular, in a very character-study format not too unlike something like Taxi Driver etc. That's what Halloween Ends felt like to me in all the best possible ways, It felt like Taxi Driver, Christine and Halloween (1978) had a baby lol. I love how DGG and co. explored so much lore and mythos of MM/"The Shape/Boogeyman" yet leaving so many questions up to viewer interpretation.
Way I see it is Corey was/Is..? becoming Haddonfield's new Boogeyman, building on Michael's legacy. So Halloween could end for now lol, but that unique Evil that powers Michael and Corey and makes them into THe Shape *can.t. Be. Stopped. That was the message IMHO. Just my two cents though.
2018 and Kills were chefs kiss, Ends was disappointing for me.
The sister angle is actually a good idea
No it's not. It sucks and it's the reason we got so many garbage sequels.
@@tylersmith2849 the last 3 sucked because they had no angle. 3 movies with nooooo continuity and the most hated. Say what you want about 4, 5 and 6 they're not hated like these movies. Even Rob Zombies movies didn't divide like these trilogies did
@@andrewebb3283 Halloween 2018 sucked???? It's the best sequel to the original Halloween in my opinion and that's also the critical concensus. Sorry man but Michael going after his "little sister" is not scary in the slightest bit. I don't care about that. I don't want to know why he kills, takes away from his character. People are hating on this trilogy because Ends went off the rails with the story and everyone now a days is a complete Karen when critiquing movies. If you like Michael being controlled by a cult,, Micheal breaking down into tears with a man bun, Michael wearing a mask that looks retarded in 4 and walking around like he crapped himself go back and watch those sequels.
@@tylersmith2849 ok, to everything you said but they said this would be adult tightly written sequels. Continuity was gonna be paramount but ALLLLLLLL 3 movies were different and He wrote like a college student.
I respect this review a lot compared to a lot of other people's reviews on these films. I think you actually understand what they were going for in this trilogy. I'd love to see your take on other popular/hated films that drew controversy whether they are a good or bad film. Great work!
Thank you. You earned a sub. Also that music in the background sounds like Resident Evil save music? It's a really nice piece of music. I love the new trilogy and I see the issue yes. But Michael is finally what he needs to be. An idea. A hollow evil that influences others around him. That white mask of blank. Those eyes of evil. The emptiness of killing for seemingly no reason. But it's not just Michael. Evil lives on. Cory is that concept brought to life. That evil can come from anywhere. The only thing I wish we had more was Loomis. But alas he's there in spirit. Also one thing Ends can say without a doubt. Michael is dead. And I love the trilogy for that. Looking forward to more insightful videos and opinions. ✌️
Great honest review! I too liked this trilogy
I think many Halloween fans don't find that it's a terrible movie , they just don't think it belongs or like it as the 3rd in the trilogy they don't like Michael taking a back seat. It's not a bad movie at all, but it's not great either.
That reasoning if you don't mind me providing my two cents, I feel in part comes down the same reason as to why Kills was also divisive... they expected one thing and the filmmakers gave them something different and rather than trying to judge it on those merits? They instead chose to judge it in comparison to what they didn't get and their disappointment. Think about it, they looked at the trailers for Kills and thought probably it was gonna be a movie about Laurie, Tommy and Haddonfield hunting Michael and getting ready to kick his ass, like the town itself is gonna have its revenge and work to fix the mistake that occurred when Michael was saved from the burning compound... then the film gives them a story on the trauma of a community and in a way subverts certain tropes of slasher sequels by giving us a higher body count but in a way that does not glorify the kills and instead plays up the emotion.
Ends is the same way, it markets itself ultimately as being the final time Laurie and Michael will face each other and the end of this trilogy but it never promises that it's just gonna be a movie of that... and people are then upset because it's not a movie about Michael and Laurie just scrapping for the entire runtime or it's not a movie of Michael just murdering people despite the fact they got Kills for that and how the Halloween they're thinking of for that is the original sequels which did put a greater emphasis on Michael and his kills. I feel like in time, eventually people will look back at these films with no expectations and for what they're actually trying to present and might find more to enjoy.
Michael Myers actually has more screen time in Ends then he did in the Original.
Fun fact...
@@the-aspiring-creator4249 I think that's part of the reason I enjoyed ends more than other people. I avoided the marketing and didn't set my expectations high and ended up enjoying the film much more than I expected.
@@the-aspiring-creator4249 Very well said.
@@KoKoraaaaaaaa1995 I don't think so, i could've sworn he was in it more.
Playing the Resident Evil track was just perfect
Halloween, Halloween 2, and Halloween H20, I personally think that this was the superior collection within all of the films. H20 Also "definitively" killed off Michael too, so nothing that they do is ever over, but that was the best shot at truly feeling completed.
Now I personally like the idea of Michael and Laurie not being related as per the original over them being siblings, and so with that, I appreciate the undoing that, but I honestly felt it more disrespectful to undo seven movies, while stealing ideas from them, to make an at best adequate set of films, that were in no way needed,
I can see so much potential in Ends, and it's just a couple of reshoots away from being a good, if not great, movie.
Have a scene that connects Kills to Ends, with the house being pulled down.
Have Myers pretty much dead in the sewers, and have Corey be more independent, simply using the Shape costume to hide his crimes.
Have Michael stalk and pursue COREY and then only fight Michael by chance.
As you say, have Corey become the new Shape. It's basically the same character, but with a new name.
Halloween,2018 film,Kills, H20,&2 are my favorites.
The Green trilogy was all over the place for me. I enjoyed 2018, and I just see it as an alternative sequel to the original, but I also have a soft spot for Halloween II. I'm not crazy about Mikey and Lorey being related, but in my mind, both are solid endings to the original movie.
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My Trilogy is Halloween 78, Halloween 2018, Halloween Kills. Ends to me is more of its own movie, and I dont feel fit well in the trilogy.
I'm willing to defend the first two thirds of this trilogy. It's crazy that all three of these films were written and directed by the same people. Halloween Ends feels like it was made by someone who didn't care to watch the other two.
Laurie was written as a random victim in "Kills" thats why the character took a back seat.
I enjoyed Ends for what it was but hated it as a finale, but this video has really made me look at it the way Green probably intended. This Halloween trilogy isn’t about Laurie, the trilogy really is about Haddonfield. 2018 is about Laurie the survivor, Kills is about the people of Haddonfield, and Ends is about Corey, the new shape of evil. This entire trilogy shows the effects of Michael Myers through Haddonfield, and looking at it that way makes it more pleasing to watch since you realize Laurie really opens and closes this trilogy instead of being the main character all throughout it.
The common complaints I see for H Ends is why introduce the Corey character at the end of a trilogy? Michael is hardly in the movie when he is supposed to be the face of the franchise.
I get that DDG was trying to make a movie that had a bit more substance and depth to it, but we really didn't need the Corey character in the film and just make the movie about Laurie, Alison, Lyndsay and Frank with Michael stalking in the shadow's.
It's not that the Corey Cunningham arc was bad, it isn't, its a good story in of itself but it feels like it belongs as an anthology film rather than part of the Halloween franchise.
Also I didn't like seeing Michael being vulnerable and being bullied and manhandled by Corey as it ruins the mystique of the character.
I love a couple things about this trilogy. I love the whole first film, and I love how in Kills Frank says ‘He’s just a six year old boy, with the strength of a man and mind of an animal.’ I also like the idea of the riot scene but the execution was awful. I also love how in Ends it casts further doubt by Corey wearing the scarecrow mask and doing the infamous head tilt. I felt like that was such a clever way to do it, probably the most intelligent thing that film done. My problem is Corey. His character is all over the place, he starts off as this kind, caring kid and then just starts acting insane. If this is how they wanted to go, they should’ve just made it clear he was an unhinged psychopath. But he was caring and genuinely regretted what happened to the kid
Halloween 2018 and Halloween Kills we’re good to begin with I don’t see how anyone hated Halloween kills but I hated Halloween ends.
I love the first 2 but I’m conflicted about ends
I love all 3 of these movies. JLC is awesome as usual. xx
Great encapsulation of what makes these films work. You're more positive on this trilogy than I am, I love and defend the DGG timeline but think it's too inconsistent. Thank you for fighting the good fight!
I (mostly) agree with all of your points here. I think Halloween 2018 and Kills were both fantastic and near perfect (in my opinion). I just wish Ends took place on the same night to make the trilogy more coherent.
Agreed
That was the original plan wish we saw that version.
True. Plus, if COVID-19 never happened, we would've seen Ends take place right after 2018 and Kills.
Misunderstood films in general too
Con Halloween si es buena, la de Kills si hay que defenderla por que también es buena, pero Ends...
Halloween ends isn't bad at all but I think it could've been way better.
You have the same reasons why I enjoy the trillogy as well
This trilogy is near perfect to me and they are some of my favorite films to come out in the last few years. There are so many reasons I love these films especially Halloween Ends that film was nothing like I was expecting or wanting but it blew me away and it's my favorite film of the year maybe even the last couple years.
I feel if Corey appeared in 2018 and Kills, it would've been a good foreshadowing as a surprise slasher for Ends rather than Corey appearing abruptly. Ends to me felt more like a filler sequel for a trilogy rather than a climatic end. Though it's an alright film for being different.
The posters are all spectacular. That’s not debatable.
Code Veronica save theme
I appreciate the direction taken in this trilogy. It’s certainly my preferred timeline for the Halloween films and I think Ends provided a respectable conclusion to Michael Myers. Though I do think it would have been cool if after grinding up Michael, Laurie returns home to see Corey along with Michael’s mask gone.
I think that was gonna be the original ending just the director wanted to have more of a feeling of finality at the end and not leave any room for further sequels.
The only problem I had with this trilogy was in Kills. When the mob took Michael down, he pulled a knife out of his neck, then killed everyone in the mob. I felt that was so convoluted and especially with all the blows he took, he should have stayed down.
I disagree that’s there a flow between the films in the new trilogy. There wasn’t a coherent flow. Laurie’s character in the third film is completely opposite to what it was in the in the first of the trilogy. She waited and prepared for 40 years for Myers’ return, but then after he disappears and has killed her own daughter, she’s suddenly not concerned with him anymore? Come on now.
If there was a coherent thread through the trilogy, then Corey should have been introduced in 2018 accidentally killing the kid, then in Kills he’s the guy the town suspects instead of the penguin dude, they beat him down but don’t kill him. Then Ends should have taken place a couple of weeks after, giving Corey time to find Michael and start to work with him.
Now, we’ve had a continuous story thread, we know the character and the character has been fleshed out and developed, and it shows how the town had created the evil in Corey.
Boom, trilogy fixed.
SPOT ON review.
Good job, sir.
hello, TheGravesyard i love all the Halloween films. have you read the novelizations of the blumhouse trilogy? and what did you think of them? i love the books because they go in more depth and explore Michael, laurie and Corey better than the movies did, especially the novelization of Halloween ends.(plus the book had more Michael Myers)
I feel like this trilogy was more like the Jurassic world trilogy then anything else
I like Halloween 2018 and Halloween Kills. And I don't think Halloween Ends is a bad movie. Simply one, that went in the wrong direction, at least for me. So for me, this trilogy was totally worth it, despite the last one not sticking the landing quite right.
For me, the thing that really ruined Halloween Ends was it's lack of consistency with the previous two films. Laurie has been traumatised for 40 years and with where Kills left off I can't buy her just getting over it even after 4 years. Then there's Michael who goes from being an unstoppable, superhuman killing machine in Halloween Kills to being a frail old man who gets his ass handed to him for pretty much all his screentime in Ends. Kills built up all this mystique about him and then Halloween Ends comes along and completely contradicts everything that the previous film told us about him. In Kills Laurie says that she used to think Michael was flesh and blood and that a human couldn't survive what he's been through, and then Ends comes along and she says that he's just a man. I know David Gordon Green has been adamant about Michael not being supernatural but everything that we've seen flies in the face of that. For the end of this new trilogy I really hoped for more.
Myers is flesh lol yall take the Loomis dialogue too literally and Laurie had seeked therapy after 2018 once she realized Myers wasn't after her and after Karen got killed
H18 was a celebration of the franchise. Kill a celebration of Michael and Ends I can't exactly pinpoint lol
Beautifully said.
And the haters instead of being grateful that we still have Halloween movies unlike Friday the 13th and Nightmare on elm street
all this trilogy shows is that even if you have the same director, the series can still go wrong
I just feel like all three films are better than anything else the franchise has had to offer. They were made with care and respect to the original with a plan in mind to build off what made the first movie great. I almost wish there was a 4th because it still feels like there was some story left to tell. But I’m overall satisfied with the ending and doubt any other entry is gonna top them.
Halloween Ends would’ve worked better if it was 2018 IMO, have Michael break out while Corey is loosing his mind and becoming a copy cat, they cross paths and Michael encounters Alyson through Corey, stalking her until it leads to Laurie who’s trying to better herself and rebuild her relationship with her family
I do have my issues, but overall I really did enjoy the Green Trilogy.
Love the resident evil theme song
Completely agree with everything you said , its like you read my mind
If only we got Halloween ends back in Halloween 5 since it was a good story idea but used for the wrong film.
Love the music
It’s called “A moment of relief” from a video game Resident Evil: Code Veronica. One of my favorite tracks
Great take on the trilogy, just a couple things:
David Gordon Green absolutely killed off Corey for the reason you assumed, he confirmed it already in an interview.
Also, with Halloween 4, the ending wasnt retconned.
Just like with H20, it was a fakeout, they intended to reveal Laurie killed a medic the entire time
and they also never intended Jamie to be the killer in the next film, Malek Akkad,etc. have confirmed that as well.
I think some fans ultimately misunderstand Blumhouse's job here as well.
Jason Blum clarified, Ends is only the end of the trilogy, not the franchise,
noting the disconnect between what the creators are promising and what some fans
erroneously thought they were promised.
Im also a lifelong fan of Halloween, my favorite film of all time.
and though i love all the films for different reasons,
i gotta say this trilogy is the best addition to the original that we've gotten over the years.
Dang, that's kinda disappointing to hear the Halloween 4 ending was planned like H20, but I appreciate you letting me know. I gotta watch more of the behind-the-scenes stuff from these movies.
@TheGravesyard indeed. The documentaries give all the dirt on how the entries came to be. It's wild, alot of times the staff wasn't even on the same page, yet alone The audience. I think you're gonna enjoy it all though. They definitely give a greater perspective on the movies.
Keep up the great content!
Great quadigy
What music is that in the bg sounds like resident evil music
Yep! Code Veronica save room music.
Michael did die in Halloween 2007 but the studio wanted a sequel which rob didn’t, sucks they did do a sequel otherwise 2007 Halloween but be a cult movie today
That’s not THE actual Michael Myers character (Rob Zombies Michael is the only other different counterpart in the franchise but the rest is the exact same character)
I love Halloween ends it takes away from just stabbing and killing to an actual build up to something. It lacks horror but I think It is still fine, and a great movie.
I liked Halloween franchise with each director and it’s cast throughout the series with different protagonist different people playing Michael Myers did a great job.😊
Awesome video! Really, I agree overall that it was probably the best way to end the trilogy, even if it wasn't to everyone's liking. Although, I do say this from a place of only having seen the first movie and the trilogy ^^; I don't have any strong ties one way or another for the series or it's characters and story. From a writing standpoint, however, I don't see the movie as incredible, but it's not terrible either and leans closer to a "good enough, i enjoyed it" status. (about to go into depth here on Cory's inclusion itself, so feel free to just ignore the rest if you already get the vibe xD )
I don't mind Cory as a character. It was probably the only way they could fit certain elements without rehashing beat for beat any previous movie. He can be more than just a plot point to get Lori and her family involved in Michael's carnage again (even though in some scenes it really feels like that's all he is). Cory's perspective shows more the small evils cycling around the community. He was a young man when the town started rejecting him and if we consider his abusive parents, he's been forced to collect those little evils earlier in life too. The film maintains this general sense of cycling hatred and how It affects everyone, particularly Lori (and her granddaughter), Cory, and Michael.
Lori and her family were trying to live their best life despite the rejection of the town. Where they had each other to help them let go of the past and ignore the haters, Cory was never allowed to let it go. Even people who didn't know him had secondhand hate for him. It lead Cory straight to Michael. His narrative purpose is a bridge between Lori and Michael. To force their interaction again and tie what they represent.
We literally do not know what Michael Meyers feels, if he hates, if he cares about anything, or if he has wants beyond filling people with knives, nothing. From what I've seen, it's preferred by fans for Michael to be as ambiguously evil as possible. Sometimes we don't really know what causes people to do evil and that is The Shape's draw. If we slot Michael in Cory's stead, it doesn't really work out, for several obvious and logical reasons. We aren't going to see the town quite the same as we do with Cory or Lori.
Ultimately, it all breaks down into Lori, who kills for revenge and protection, Michael, who has no discernible reason, and Cory, who is kinda this middle ground of "is it revenge, defense, or because of The Shape's senseless evil?" It's likely bits of all three and everywhere in between. Allowing Cory to live after Halloween Ends is shaky territory, especially if the fans already dislike his inclusion into this film. In my opinion, his death accentuates the fact that he story isn't really about him, it's about the community as a whole and the way they spread bits of hate and evil through the town until it continually resurfaced as a large threat beyond anyone's control (except Lori cause she's badass).
*(random, nonsensical headcanon just now that Michael is so weak in Ends because Lori gave up living in absolute fear of him and was trying to be happy, thus deadening his evil power... or you know, what you said about him being human and limited in that regard xD )
I like all 3 of the movies, each have some issues but I enjoy all 3 of them. Kills is my favorite of the trilogy because of the kills and we get more of Michael Myers in it. Also the music was great in it. 2018 was really good, and Ends was good. It's not perfect but I still think all three of these movies are better than Halloween 5, Rob zombie's Halloween 2 and even Halloween resurrection.
Also John Carpenter gave us some amazing scores with 2018, Kills and now Ends. Along with Cody Carpenter and Daniel Dave's.
He went to her house to get his mask back
I’ve felt exactly the same way with this trilogy as you did. Curious tho, what editing programs and microphone did you use for this clip? I’m considering on doing some reviews myself.
2018 is by far the best sequel and the best return to form for the franchise. 🎃 Kills was lacking storytelling and dialogue. Ends was lacking Michael Myers.
i loved Halloween 2018 and Halloween kills Halloween ends was ok
I liked it but i really understand the complaints. the trilogy is all over the place. i really respect Halloween Ends for the bold swings it takes but i can totally see why other people wanted Halloween Ends to be something different
The very 1st movie is the creepiest of them all
And how the fk did laurie know about the paper airplanes..
Good video. Good explanation.
My biggest problem wasn't about the idea of two michael or evil change shape
The problem was Corey's motivation and develop
Corey's impression is the edgy emo guy from 2006 who kills just because of an accident and with a single look of Michael, he is just evil and behaves pretty cringy with Allyson, the movie feels so old, maybe if the TV series of Halloween is real, this movie could be an episode.
Also how the town blames Laurie without explanation
Only if we theorize that she crashed the bus in 2018 (cause it was the case) we can agree it, but Green never tells the casual audience directly about it, just after watching 10 times the movie, you can see clearly how Laurie reacts when news talks about the bus crash.
Finally the original script of beginning the movie with Michael's death (or surviving it's death in the radio tower with huge injured, explaining why he is so weak in Ends), Corey meeting Allyson in the same night, and then Michael hears someone is using it's name to kill people, and Myers main objective is killing Corey, cause there's only one boogeyman in the town. Or using a real teamwork between this two, could be better.
I don't hate the main idea of Ends but how they develop feels rushed, maybe 1 or 2 years could be enough
For me, I absolutely enjoyed Halloween 2018 and Ends! I liked Kills, but Kills was for sure the weakest in the trilogy! you literally described every thing that I loved about this trilogy and why it was more enjoyable than other timelines EX: (H4, 5 and 6)! They were terrible! Finally someone sheds light on this!
No, ends is the weakest
@@kainlives7958 no, absolutely not!
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the best set !! your nuts ! H2018 Gr8 A, HKills B+/A-, End solid D....J.C. H1 A , orig H2 still the scariest A+ H4 A+ H5 C , H6 Trash F- F(both Cuts) H20 C H8 C Rob Zombie H1 A! R.Z.H2 C+
Ends isn’t perfect but it’s way better than Kills and I think it’s a treat for Halloween fans who wanted to see how H5 could have played out.
nice vid, but theres no point in trying to decipher these movies because none of them are supposed to exist, Michael's story was supposed to end in 1978, he was supposed to disappear into the night and have people always wondering what or who he was, and that would have been glorious, for me the only other true halloween movie is 3, which stayed true to john carpenters brilliant vision of making halloween an anthology series of movies. oh well
I have to watch it again. I’m here I’ll be bach
The direction Ends went in is just baffling to me. It felt like they were setting up for a big finale with the first two films then in the final one they just decided at the last second to go in this totally out of left field direction. It just doesn’t work and it’s not a good film. Felt like two completely different films mashed together. Everything that was set up in the first two acts is completely thrown away in the final act and they fall right back on the same old shit to end the series. Would’ve rather just had same old shit for all three acts. At least would’ve been a cohesive film. Also just throwing it out there that the novelizations were way better and expanded on things more and actually explained stuff.
I just watched 78, 2018, and Ends as it’s own trilogy. I skipped Kills because it really isn’t needed and honestly? Ends works much better as a sequel to 2018 than it does Kills. Kills wasn’t needed.
I feel that Kills is the weakest of the four, but I wouldn’t say it’s useless story-wise. It completely opens up the story from just being about Laurie and her family, to the entire town - which end up playing a vital part in Ends as they are ultimately what drive Corey to become the monster they think he is. Without Kills I feel like it’d be a pretty jarring story leap as we wouldn’t get to see how Haddonfield dealt with the tragedy, it would just be a straight transition from a normal town, to one that is just completely traumatised.
I can totally see what you mean by that. To an extent, I even agree with you. However, I feel like the town was already a little weird in 2018. They certainly already judged Laurie as the town weirdo. I would
Argue that skipping Kills and just watching Ends makes the idea of her spending 40 goddamn years building that trap in order to trap Michael so much more effective because it makes it seem more like he got out of the fire all messed up because he’s just supposed to be a man in that movie right? At least that’s what DGG kept saying. So he escapes all pissed, kills a shit ton of random haddonfield residents and then just VANISHES like a fart in the wind. I can buy that that would be enough to get us to how the town is in Ends. It also makes the idea of Michael being so weak in Ends make more sense as there’s no stupid “transcending.” It also improves things by NOT including the 15 minute Hawkins opening in Kills where they make it seem that it’s of vital importance that Hawkins blows Michaels brains out….only to completely drop that part of his story arc. There’s also none of the evil dies tonight shit either. And while I’m on the subject of Kills, I don’t really like how amped up they made Michael in Kills. To me, Michael is scarier when he’s being the silent stalker in the shadows that then strikes like a snake. Save the gratuitous slasher shit for a Jason flick. Skipping Kills also makes the Sartain twist more satisfying because we see how being around Michael seems to corrupt minds. It wasn’t just Corey this happened to. Also, wasn’t it originally announced that DGG was going to make TWO Halloween flicks back to back? I wonder if after the first one came out, Blumhouse told DGG to make it a trilogy and that’s why Kills just feels like so much blood soaked fluff to me?
The novelization of Ends is better than the film though I do like all three films.
THE END WAS TRASH. There’s no defense for it.
Why was it trash?
I thought ends blows.... halloween was my favorite movie since i was 4 years old.....
Yes, DDG trilogy brought Halloween and Michael Myers back to the original roots. No family relations. No thorn. No hip-hop, MTV bullshit cast. Just plain classic Michael, the boogeyman, plain and simple.
He’s evil. Never would team up but… the thing was The Shape literally is diff to Michael Myers since it takes shape of a man but isn’t human and anybody can take up a shape. Literal Jeremy was hearing voices and stuff and he could have been the next Michael Myers but Corey instead was yet the original evil came back. COVID delayed stuff so the original script was scrapped guess pressure not that much of a fault. Ends has it’s ups too tho cuz we see Michael stalking and he is more like how he was in the beginning
"In defense of Halloween Ends"
Nope...
In the Halloween (2018) book says that Michael remembers Laurie, but well...
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This trilogy is my absolute favorite Halloween sequel timeline.
Halloween (2018) is easily the best Halloween sequel overall, even critics and more of the half of the fandom are agree. When Halloween (2018) come out, it was a big success, and becomes the most successful slasher film of all time at the box office.
This trilogy has better cinematography, better soundtrack, better visuals, the best Michael (James Jude Courtney) and Jamie Lee Curtis and John Carpenter involved.
I even loved ENDS a lot, and the book is even better, it has more Michael Myers on it and more kills by him.
Corey becomes one of my favorite characters in the whole franchise too and Jamie Lee Curtis performance was GREAT.
Is ok if some of you don't like the movie, it's valid, but if your a hater, you are ridiculousl.
The only Halloween movies that I care about are:
Halloween (1978)
Halloween II (1981)
Halloween (2018)
Halloween Kills
Halloween Ends