i do agree that he never got up BUT it is known that for a dying person, the last sense to go is the sense of hearing. he probably heard her reading to him and started to pass as soon as he saw ellie turn around and could hear her reading the essay.
There is no way he got up and started walking. And Liz deserves the money, not Ellie. Ellie is pure evil. Liz was his rock. She did everything for him. She wasn't his nurse. He didn't have health insurance. She did all of that, on top of working grueling 12 hour shifts, simply because she loved Charlie. And knew that she would get absolutely nothing in return. Yes, Liz was an enabler, but even when she found out about the money, what she was upset about was that he didn't use it to help himself. Liz never cared about money, Ellie did. Liz is selfless, and a beautiful person. Ellie is a horrible delinquent, who will end up dropping out of high school, having 6 different baby daddys, going in and out of jail for drugs. And then die of an overdose at 28.
I have to disagree the poor little girl was angry and hurting most of her life because she lost her father once and then realized she was going to lose him again. I grew up with out a father and I was angry. my two oldest daughters grew up with out me and they are still showing the affects that I caused by not being their as much as I should have. one day I hope they can forgive me. 🙏
I found poetic that while Alan starved himself to death, Charlie was always eating for two. He’d always order two pizzas, two meatball subs with extra cheese, a family bucket of wings. Almost like he was eating both for Alan and for himself.
@@ifyouonlyknew811 probably for the same reason he refused to go to the hospital. I think he blamed himself for what he had done to his family and for what happened to Alan. He didn’t think he deserved any form of saving. But that’s just my perspective.
This was Ellie's movie. Her father was her "great white whale", a monster, she thought had no emotion, whom she wanted to destroy. She just let the audience see all the other boring stuff about him to protect us from the ending.
second that...her rage was her fighting her truth. Frustration with the situation and inability to save her father by barking at him....unlike how she could save the kid@@Connorita91
to say that she thought he had no emotion is so dumb. he's the only emotive character for 90% of the movie. she was just a dumb stereotype written to adhere to every trope until a sudden rift in the last 10sec of the movie
True, some people don't understand that eating a lot of junk food is bad but they get obese and die of kidney failure or cancer, which of course is tragic in our society
Real life isn’t comfortable Real emotions aren’t comfortable Real addiction isn’t comfortable Witnessing real human suffering & desperation isn’t comfortable Being human isn’t comfortable And when you allow the movie to be uncomfortable they don’t feel like ‘characters’ they feel like PEOPLE
Same… I found it very sleffish of him to refuse to get himself help when his daughter begged him and then MAKE HER WATCH HIM DIE!!! His ex was right, it is always about “him”. If he truly cared for his daughter he would have gotten help FOR HER SAKE. She needed a father, that’s what broke her. “Daddy please” was her last plea, she is who I feel sorry for. And Liz.. and even his ex.. not him..
@@Curiousitydrive you missed the point a bit A healthy person could make that decision Save himself for the sake of his daughter But he's not a healthy person He was beyond saving He couldn't live anymore He was basically commiting suicide in the most painful and slow way You missed the part where he say who would want him as a fatter Who would want him around It's not about selfishness really It's about him being son mentally broken He couldn't make the right decision not for him not for anyone else I understand you are angry at the character But he's not some sociopath who wanted his daughter to watch him die He's sick mentally and physically He couldn't be saved He didn't want to live anymore But he's last and only wish was to make sure his daughter knew she was wonderful That's it Also the "all about you" comment from his ex wive definitely came from the fact he left her He couldn't be with her because he's gay but she didn't care "All about him" suggests she expected him to suck it up and be with her even if he didn't want to Keeping him apart from his daughter First to get revenge and then because she thought she was evil She's just as broken as him Seeing herself as a victim of everyone including her daughter She's also In a lot of pain Killing herself by drinking Making her daughter watch her fall apart and drink herself to oblivion Yet you aren't mad at that because you understood she's suffering So maybe try and understand that charlie is the same She could too make her daughter watch her die if she continues This a film about broken people Not about villains and heroes
Man this ending had me in tears. Brendan was phenomenal in this, but I'd also give an equal amount of praise to Sadie Sink. Both of them made this ending very powerful. Really good movie
I'm a 59 year old grown ass man and I cried my eyes out at the end of this movie. Teared up several times. Amazing film. Brendan Fraser not only deserved the Oscar for best actor but cemented himself in history as one of the truly great actors of his generation. Well done Brendan!!!!!!!
“Im sorry for leaving you” hes saying that for leaving her at 8 years old and leaving her now as he passes away , that was the moment i began to cry. Powerful ending to a beautiful film .
If he was so sorry for leaving her, he wouldn't have. He would have taken better care of himself and gone to the hospital.. But instead, he assumed money was more important to ellie than his presence. If your kid is not reason enough to help yourself, that's just pathetic..
My significant other works in healthcare as a nurse, and said that it was brutally real to see someone both consume themselves with an unhealthy addiction like overeating, but the more interesting point she made was that she has both seen and heard about people getting final bursts of energy and doing something seemingly impossible before their death (like Charlie getting up and walking to Ellie unassisted). I do think that in his final moments, the light coming in to the home is not from a morning or afternoon/evening sun, but rather the light of the afterlife shining down on him as he prepares for his fate (also bear in mind that we don't see any sunlight during the whole movie, just gray skies and rain). Whether him getting up and walking, or that he was already unconscious by that time is up to interpretation, but I would not put it past that he did actually walk to her before collapsing in death.
My grandma fell into critical condition after she fell down the stairs due to her dementia she made a full recovery and made it home died a week later you never really know
I agree. I think that him getting up and walking to her was too important, not just for his character but hers too. She needed to know that her Dad fought to be as close to her as possible in his final moments, so she knew he truly did regret leaving her when she was young. This would go a huge way towards helping her heal from her trauma and grief, which was all HE wanted as well. When something is that important, the human body can do incredible things. I've heard stories of people in their final moments and things like this DO happen- people literally going outside, calling their loved ones for long conversations, taking part in activities- the day before they die.
honestly poor Ellie, that sounds super traumatic to have your dad suddenly walk towards you after never seeing him walk unassisted before then drop dead
I can attest to this, I literally watched my grandfather pass away in my grandparents living room and they do have this final burst of energy but afterwards you can also tell the transition from life to afterlife where they aren’t there mentally and physically but their spirit is already somewhere else.. I wasn’t there when my grandma died but I heard it was a very different and she was just asleep one minute and passed the next. She died in a hospital and I think they had her on some heavy medication. However maybe its like giving birth and the difference is between epidural and natural… I’ve experienced both and I obviously perfer the help but I think (just like charlie didn’t want to go to the hospital) experiencing this natural phenomenon is important for our personal human experience…
I always liked the detail where Charlie would leave sliced apples for the crow on a plate covered in apple residue, implying it wasn’t the first time that he has fed the crow. Which also implies that Charlie IS capable of taking care of something/someone. So Ellie breaking the plate showed me that she realized the same thing. Breaking the plate almost out of jealousy (considering she’s been neglected by Charlie since she was 8). Very small detail but I love that kind of stuff.
What about the traumas that is caused to those around them that care for them? Liz is right, you can’t save someone who doesn’t want to be saved. Selfish. Especially if you have children. You don’t put that type of trauma ON THEM! Your duty to your children is to protect them. He literally made her watch him die.
@@Curiousitydrive maybe she received closure in the end scene, seeing that her father loved her mote than anything. Im sure something changed for her in the last scene, if charlie hasnt have done that he would have died still despised and hated by his daughter
this movie really touched my soul. I'm a over weight middle aged man . and although I'm not as big as Charlie I can relate. I to suffer from depression and sometimes over eat . and this story gave me goosebumps. I laughed and cried and made me reflect on my transgressions. and gives me hope that I can mend my past relationships with my kids who I love dearly . and reminds me that it's never to late to wrong the past.
I'm with you, man. I'm overweight as well, and the scene where Charlie chugs down on pizzas hit me like a stone because I realized I used to do the same about a month ago. I'd get stressed, buy a cheap pizza, and eat 8 slices of it... thankfully I'm excercising now and I'm doing my best to change my habits, but I do have a long way to go. I hope we can take this movie as a lesson to better ourselves. Stay strong.
@@nekkawaii ❤I truly hope you do! Wishing you health and love. I think bettering yourself for yourself and those who love you, should be the take away.
My father died a couple years ago from CHF and had very similar mobility issues. I found this film to be beautiful and the acting was very impressive. R.I.P, dad ❤️
I believe he stood up and walked over to her cause all she wanted to see was him truly try his hardest to enter her life again, and he wouldn't do that cause he knew he would die soon. My interpretation of the ending is that Charlie, despite knowing his fate, stood up and walked to his daughter to show her what she always wanted, he put in that effort despite knowing it was too late. It is truly a film about the indomitable good inside of all people and love for each other. This film made me think about my own life, and made me feel better about it.
I prefer to believe he stood up. A final yet fatal adrenaline rush can actually work wonders. I also do believe that there is more to the sentence: "I believe no one can save anyone" It's basically the Antithesis to Charlies final belief. Ellies whole Essay is about her realizing that People who let an adiction/obsession consume their life won't achieve anything, that her life (when compared to others) isn't as bad as she thought it is & that she feels compassion/pity for the guy who chases his "whale" Charlie knew this as he read it daily. And I think this is why he chose to let her read it out loud in his final moment. To do at least "one thing right". It wasn't for him. It was for her. Here's my reasoning to why I think that may be the case: I believe the "whale" is a metaphor for "addiction" or "obsession". Think about it. The Whale Hunter in Moby Dick is obsessed with the Whale & addicted to hunting it. He lets his entire life be consumed by the whale hunt, only to ultimately achieve nothing & have his ship wrecked & himself drowned by "the whale" (his own addiction). Ellie feels pity for the guy because he could've had a much better life, had he simply let go and stopped chasing "the whale". Now the same applies for her dad, Charlie. He's developed an unhealthy addiction and is unable to overcome it. She finds herself in the very same position she was in, as she wrote the original essay: Watching the demise of a person that is unable to stop chasing its "whale". But there's even more to that. Ellie herself is now chasing her very own "whale" too and the religious Guy is also chasing his own "whale". We don't know if she tried to hurt or help the religious Guy but Charlie connects two dots: 1) Her essay shows that she's able to feel compassion for people who chase "whales" & 2) She "saved" the religious Guy from "chasing his whale" by showing him that he ultimately was the creator of his own "whale" (His family doesn't hate him. He only thought they would.) This proves nothing as we don't know if she wanted to save or hurt him but for Charlie it absolutely proves that people CAN be saved thus negates the sentence that no one can safe anyone and so in his final moments he's not letting Ellie read her essay to soothe himself BUT as a MIRROR for herself, to show her that she's started chasing a "whale" and to show her that she already knows the answer & the solution for her problem: To simply let go. The solution to not get drowned by the Whale is to stop chasing the Whale. That's why it is so important for him to stand up. In the beginning of the movie she told him that his only way to truly prove to her that he cares about her is to stand up and walk toward her. As he stands up, he NOT ONLY proves that he cares and thus ultimately shows that her "Whale" (the thought that her father didn't care about her) is empty too, a lie she told herself a creation of misunderstandings BUT also cements and underlines his very belief that Ellie CAN be saved. And it goes even further. He knows he can only do so much and that it ultimately is her that needs to save herself. His very death in combination with her reading that essay as it happens is Charlies way to make sure, she's going to think about this essay for a loong time. And in this very Essay she basically tells herself, that the only solution to not get drowned by her "whale" is to simply let go of it. His very last lesson as a teacher and as a father was to teach his daughter to let go of him, to not let grief consume her life like it did his. Now even here, we don't know if he succeeded as it ends here. She may have fallen into even deeper depression through his act. But his lesson still stands: "People CAN be saved"
Idk why this doesn’t have more likes but I think you got the plot perfectly… and I love the way you wrote this comment out❤ but to futher add I also think he stood as well and as a person who has witnessed a death I can say for certain that his daughter will struggle with it for a time maybe even a long time but if shes as brilliant as he believes (and hes a trustworthy narrator) this will be the catalyst that directs the course of the rest of her life.
I really hope that Brendan Fraser nabs the Best Actor Oscar. While the film itself was just so so in my opinion, his performance was so captivating, and really made you believe in his character's anguish.
Whether it's correct or not, I like to interpret that Charlie was trying to gain the weight that Alan never did. In a way to try and symbolically save him from the guilt that plagues his life, for his perceived part in Alan's suicide.
It’s an engaging movie, filled with the human emotions everyone feels from time to time , and for some persistently. Anguish and despair, raw anger, and heartbreak and regret. So honestly acted by Brendan and Sadie in particular. Love the way Ellie acts out with such obvious anger…you just know the hurt is just below the surface. Charlie is really such a lovable character despite his “disgusting “ appearance and lack of courage needed to improve himself, or actually save himself. It is lovely to witness his transformative, though awkward love and ability to not only see the good in others, but to inspire. Such a true teacher. And love the lesson of honesty. It ends up being an uplifting movie when all is said and done. The ending is surprising, and magical . Charlie has taken his mistakes to heart and assures that he has actually done something meaningful in his life by healing the relationship he has had with Ellie. The movie could become a classic likened to some of the old-time movies such as “Its A Wonderful Life” and others. I truly wish them all luck at the Oscars!!
Brooklyn P Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall Jimmy Stewart masturbating to gay porn. That's not something most people would want to rewatch every Christmas Eve.
I really cried when I saw the whale. I especially cried when Charlie got up and made a few steps toward his daughter and they were both smiling, then the light shon brightly as he passed away. Brendan totally had my heart. He played this character to perfection. He deserved every award and praise possible. It was an amazing performance. Good on you Brendan. Love you to bits.
I watched The Whale for the second time today, it still hits like a ton of bricks. This is Brendan Fraser's magnum opus, just a spectacular performance in one of the most moving films I've ever watched. I'm rarely moved to tears, The Whale has done it twice.
The movie was an eyesore to watch throughout because of how dark and cloudy the setting was. During Charlie’s last seconds I think I audibly said “ah it’s bright now, that’s not good” because it was so outside of the ordinary. I definitely think it was him going towards the light.
let’s not forget about the scene at the beach. he was at a cross roads. the family he loved but you’ll noticed was behind his back. he was facing the future and freedom “the open sea” we know that he chose freedom because he left his family but also multiple times urged everyone around him to be honest. it’s what he valued the most and was speaking from experience. but at that cross road at the beach was his happiest yet safest moment in life. he had both his family and liberation all at the same time. AMAZING movie and i’m happy brenden frazier is back! my childhood favorite actor.
Great insight. I’ve watched many analysis comments about this movie. This is the best insight out of all the theories and “did you notice” type comments. 👍
I finally saw this movie last week. What a very beautiful movie! I loved Brendan Fraser's acting! There were times that I kind of forget that it is him playing the character!
I just finished watching this film, it was beautifully portrayed, the cast- especially Brendan, were phenomenal. It was a very emotional watch for me and I also lost my dad at a similar age to Ellie, from similar (not as extreme) circumstances and grew up with an alcoholic mum. Seeing the binging scene was soul destroying. The familiarity of the guilt, shame, embarrassment and disgust from people brought back so many emotions. I was silently pleading with Charlie throughout the movie to go to the hospital and get help but I was fairly certain on how it would end and once again I found myself watching helplessly, being unable to save someone who doesn’t want to be saved. I was angry because I knew the money didn’t matter, what Ellie needed most of all was her dad. She needed love, love that she had been denied and was angry at the world for, love that her dad had for her in endless amounts. I’m going to go cry myself to sleep now 🥲
I loved that when he was walking towards her- she took a step towards him to meet him in the middle- as a way to shoulder the burden of him having to take 1 more extra step to reach her. They both reached out to each other in the end. Amazing ending.
On another note did anyone find it ‘interesting’ that Liz kept enabling him with food? I WONT spoil anything but those of you who have seen it will know what I mean, I even wonder if she was punishing him.
That's a dumb statement. Think of it: If you're loved one was depressed, mobidly obese, and the only thing that brings him/her temporary comfort is eating, you would do the same thing. You also have to keep in mind that he is his own person; an adult. Liz is only trying to help him in any possible way she can with what he wants (because she knows/knew that he was going to die already.) and if literally the only way she can help him is by just simply getting his food for him, what can you do. She wasn't punishing him either, HE wanted it, so technically he is punishing himself. It's a sad movie because in reality no one BUT HIMSELF could do anything. He chose not to do anything (as if he could in the first place) and therefore had to pay for it. Liz brought the food for him out of her kindness, because whether she brought it to him or not, he was still going to eat it. Again, it's devastating, but what can you do?
Was not punishment. In her own world and in her own way she felt (that bringing him food and seeing him gain weight and eat all that she brings) salvation, purpose and achieved the goal: She desperately tried this before with Alan and no matter how much food or how often she tried to get him out of malnutrition, she eventually failed.
Yes, definitely. It could be interpreted that she was A) torturing him like you said or B) being selfish and using him as a gross way to satisfy her egotistical needs
I love how the entire story suddenly comes together in the final scene. The essay he’s been reading was his daughter’s the whole time and it symbolizes her life in regard to dealing with her father, as well as the fact that he symbolizes the whale in the story of Moby Dick.
Him walking up to her (without the assistance) is just a mirror of when he couldn't earlier in the film. It might be physically unrealistic but not impossible, and definitely more poetic. Also, if he died in the chair earlier, they wouldn't have gotten the moment together as she looks at him and smiles.
This is the problem that a lot of people have missed, myself included. There is a great mystery I believe regarding the essay. There is one quote from the essay that never gets finished being read out loud. Just as she stops reading that part she almost has an epiphany and looks up to her father as he smiles and then dies. That smile they both shared shows that that sentence in particular was specifically important and therapeutic for them both to get closure. But what that is is unknown and a lot of people have missed this important part!
I viewed this as him deciding that he has something to finally live for. He thinks he's going to hear the poem when he dies but ironically it's when he's going to live. The floating into the air is a metaphor to show that he has lost the weight of grief and despair
If I were to make an argument for the other side of the coin it would be that throughout the film everytime the play was read to him or he read the play it calmed him and gave him strength. If there was ever a time where he would be able to stand it would be elly reading her essay to him. Whether he didn't stand up or he did I think the ending is just as good.
I think Charlie loved the essay because it was what he lacked, honesty. The movie drives the point that honesty is beautiful and how you should live your life. Charlie ended up in his situation because he wasn't honest with who he was and who he loved.
I was surprised at this ending. Charlies' lover, Allan had a compassionate sister and he also had Charlie, who sacrificed much to be with Allan. Over some people that clearly didnt really care about Allan, he chose to let that consume him and lead to his death rather than appreciate what he had and the supportive people in his life. Similarly, Charlie had a great friend in Allan's sister Liz. She sacrificed much for him. Charlie also knew Ellie's mom was not a great mother and was allowing Ellie to head down a path in which money would never fix. Charlie does not use any money to help Liz, a person that was there for him, but gives it all to Ellie who needs a father more than she needs money. Charlie could have used the money to get himself healthy and be the father Ellie needed, also not putting Liz through watching someone she loves die a second time. In Charlies argument with his ex-wife, he says he wants to know he did at least one good thing in his life. Quitting on Ellie and thinking he could just leave some money to her is a bad thing. UP to the end, he stubbornly chooses to do the wrong thing. He knows he needs to get to the hospital, but refuses. He dies in front of his daughter that needed him more than anything. Charlie's chose to leave his daughter, not keep fighting for her, and try to make it all ok by leaving her money while dying on front of her while she was young enough to switch her life around with him in her life. She was so close to being able to make her own decisions in spite of her mother, as she would soon be 18, and yet Charlie is about to send heer down a destructive path to cope, most likely with money to supply her into a spiraling drug habit. End scene for Charlie gets an F
I keep contrasting Charlie's choices with mine when my life was destroyed by someone I trusted. Instead of neglecting my health to the point of death, I resolved that I would do no more harm. My life was tragic too [I'm77 now] and was never what it should have been, but I persisted in doing the best I could and helping others when possible. So I wasn't much impressed by Charlie. I'm VERY impressed with Fraser's acting though. Not sure about his message.
Although I deeply appreciate your take on the finale of the film, I think it’s intended to be open to interpretation. Darren A. Kinda likes to blur the lines between reality and fantasy. You’re never sure about what you’re seeing. Even though Charlie most certainly died, that scene might very well happened not in his mind but in a world that is seemingly touched or at least momentarily interconnected with a more transcended or supernatural kind of place. Anyway, great take and really hoping that Mr Fraser gets his well deserved Oscar
This movie was so poetic. I loved that the actual essay he wanted read to calm down was Ellie’s. As a child of abandoned parents, we do not understand until we become parents. Yes I’m still angry but we always love our parents.
I work EMS and see people like this all the time. People don't realize their are people like this all around you. This is not uncommon. Really highlights how lonely they feel. Super sad.
I used to work in healthcare, and I once looked after a man like Charlie. He was morbidly obese, and his cupboard was crammed with sweets, carbs, and fatty foods. I never saw him beat himself off (Thank God), but I did see a few dirty novels by his bedside. He later died in hospital. Such a shame because he was such a lovely man who could have done more with his life.
Nurse Hadley (famous TT Hospice Nurse) will tell you that her terminally ill patients OFTEN have a burst of unusual energy just prior to death. In fact, it's one of the signs that lets her know it will be very soon. Could be he walked right to the door & Ellie
I Finally watched this last night and it had me in tears a few times because of how I could relate to losing my father in a similar situation almost 6 years ago. He drank himself to death and like Charlie wanted to die after he got my sister through college successfully. My father might not have been as big as this but he had some mobility issues at times. This film definitely is within my like top 3 favorite films now because of that deep connection. Brendan Fraser deservedly so won that Oscar; and it has to be the award that my passion came out for the most ever. I believe hands down that no one else was even close to beating him out for it. His performance was just breathtakingly amazing and heartfelt and perfect. Also Sadie Sink did a great job as well as Hong Chau who imo should have won best supporting as well. Congrats all around and I'll always be a fan of Fraser forever.
Go online find the stage play if you think this was dark the og ending is down right soul crushing. He dies alone then the stage just goes black comes back and hes dead. They stay that way until people get uncomfortable and start leaving. No music. No cast bow out. Nothing
I think that like the ending to Inception, the writer left clues for different possible realities to the ending. No one truth is correct, because no one truth is confirmed by the writer. In a way, Charlie did walk and he didn't at the same time. It's up to the viewer to make the decision.
I watched this movie while traveling on a plane. The plane landed before the movies end but we were delayed at the point of disembarking so that gave me time to finish watching the movie. I was so moved and impressed by the storyline, acting and the moving performances of all cast members; I have found an addition to my list of favorites.
Its possible he never even had that whole conversation with her. Everything after his friend notices he started hallucinating could of been fabricated imo.
Hello from Texas 😊 I just watched this movie. 38 years ago, I weighed over 400 lbs. The scales couldn't tell me how much over 400 that I was. I gave birth to my son that year. So much of myself I seen in Charlie, on many levels. I figured out early in the movie that the days were counting down to Charlie's death, yet him dying was really hard to watch. The relationships that were important to Charlie, he wanted them to know that he loved them, especially his daughter. I thank The Good Lord that I'm not carrying around all that excessive fat anymore. It was putting a horrible strain on my heart and my mind was just a rotten pudding. I was waiting to die. Thank you Brendan for your work here and for all the other actors that brought this film into fruition. 😊❤
I like to think he really did stand! Justification: Elle beginning to read the essay relieved Charlie of all the weight, a manifestation of his failures that stemmed from him leaving her. Elle forgiving her monster of a father (in her eyes) showed true forgiveness and compassion something she lacked throughout (hopeless she was a lost cause). This gesture of kindness reinforced Charlie that she would be okay and he smiles because he finally did something good and got through to his daughter. Showing that hope and honesty prevails. Making somewhat of amends for leaving her. He also is proven right that people are incapable of not caring, by Elle caring for him in his final moments. If she truely did just walk out it would be a very bleak and hopeless ending, whereas I feel the film wanted to portray a more hopeful ending.
Even though I'm not done watching the video, I do believe that he managed to walk these steps, and only died after that. Indeed, dying people (i.e people in palliative care) often display a surprising boost of energy right before their death.
I knew a man who was roughly 500 pounds. He would come into the dinner that I worked at, and come in at breakfast and stay until closing. Ate three square meals, plus dessert in between meals. He was the most intelligent man, it was like his brain was an encyclopedia. You could ask him literally anything and he could explain it to you. Such a beautiful man, with so much class and knowledge. He was truly such a gentleman. He passed last year after succumbing to his health conditions due to his weight. This movie made me think of him, and what his life might have looked like when he wasn’t sitting in the dining room at my job. It broke my heart to pieces. What a tragically beautiful film.
My question is, how did Charlie and basically Liv both know that in that exact moment Charlie was dying at the end? He was wheezing before and had been in worse situations.
Liz did work in the medical field so I’m sure she picked it signs of when he would pass. Now I genuinely don’t think she expected him to pass right then and there because she did mention that she’d be downstairs, in way that said “I won’t be too far if you need me”
People use the restroom one last time while they’re passing maybe she thought of that. Also when he hallucinated I think that was a major sign that she could’ve looked at.
I think Charlie hallucinated most of the ending. I think his daughter did go there but if you noticed when sgd opened the door it was bright but when his friend left it was dark. I also don’t think he truly stood up and walked to his daughter but it shows that he cares about her. In the movie he wasn’t able to stand and walk on his own much.
The first time i saw this masterpiece i believed Chalie got up. I re-watched it yesterday and i noticed that when Ellie opens the door to leave, you can see how sunny it is (a first in this movie) and what looks like a beach behind her.. Maybe i'm the only one to see it but i can't un-see it now and it makes this story even more heartbreaking!
This movie was beautiful from start to finish. I haven’t cried like this in a long time. Just absolutely a marvelous story and Brandon captured my heart ❤️
I am absolutely convinced he got up for real. The floating away part was obviously hallucinated, but he absolutely got up from that couch and walked over to his daughter.
Sure he did. The theory that he died on the couch doesn't make much sense to me either. That huge effort of making those few steps could be too much for his heart.
from my perspective, i feel the whole movie was somewhat around salvation and saving one another for the greater good - there was a lot of religious allusions with the church sub-plot. for example there's: - charlie not saving himself by not going hospital - ellie saving the church guy - charlie not saving his boyfriend - charlie not saving his daughter through not raising her and especially the ending sparked some religious allusions of him ascending and him being 'saved'
My dad had cancer in his pancreas, the 2nd most deadly form of cancer apparently or atleast very deadly. The day he passed, he was some what normal...but then all of a sudden just shut down. The doctors told us it was time and a matter of time before he would pass. We were next to him for 12 hours, in the 8th hour he came to life and started mumbling. He rose up from his lying position in the bed and was delirious and was looking for us or wanting us. We held him softly as he tried to fight to get up, but he was weak. He had barely eaten or drank in days so he had no power left to withstand our minimal efforts of just holding/hugging him. When i saw the movie and Charlie rose up, i started crying my eyes out....because it resembled my father from that moment when he was on the bed. Shortly after he rose he went lying down again and we felt his slow down and him chocking on himself for the last 4 hours before we finally felt his last heart beat. Do i think it is possible Charlie stood up, yes because i have seen it with my own eyes. Especially if the person has incredible strength and stubbornness and i see that in Charlie...but i do feel i would have fallen to the ground after and then passed potentially. This outcome is so much better seeing him ''leave'' earth in a less painful way, because seeing the life leave someone's eyes or feeling their last heart beat is fucking brutal. I am in tears writing this because the emotions and memories coming back to me. I am the 2nd in line of 5 children, i never imagined i was the one to be the one with my hand on his heart at the end and the one to turn his head to the side and close his eyes. My relationship was never the best with him, but he knew i had forgiven him. Still it hurts so much that we never got to mend and the pain i can only imagine would have been ever worse if my relationship was good...i don't think i would ever be able to do what i did that day then. He passed away 8 months before i saw the movie.
Sadie’s character, Ellie, missed her father more than anything. She was using the essays as an excuse to spend more time with him. To say she didn’t love Charlie with all her heart, is a misinterpretation of what happened. No one can be this angry at someone without caring for them deeply.
I just finished watching this 2 minutes ago and wow...I must say this movie just had me glued to the screen and just speechless for like a good 10 mins towards the end
1:50 : we knew from like, 20 minutes into the movie that the essay was written by Ellie. Liz finds it on the counter and points to the name at the top, asks something like "has she been here? does her mom know?" etc etc
when he tried to eat himself to death he accomplished his goal. i think that the scene where the bird plate was broken was symbolic of his death. they say when we die our lives flash before our eyes. nobody really knows what happens in those last few moments. perhaps for him the only part of his life to flash was his dream of coming to a state of absolution with his daughter.
One of my theories is that he actually died when he threw up in the kitchen/aspirated. Everything after that was fantasy. Then, also maybe he could have already died when Liz is trying to listen to his heart. That's how nurses pronounce someone dead in the nursing home. She wasn't touching him, she was bracing herself on the couch instead. "Why did you do this to me again?" Makes more sense. He was either gone or very close. The third way is as explained here, with the light coming through and the daughter turning away. When she turns back, he is gone. I don't believe he got up unassisted, ever.
I saw Elvis a few days ago. Then today, I just saw this movie, The Whale. And I was crying. Especially at the end. No wonder Brendan Fraser won an Oscar. He was incredible in this movie. The ending left a lot of people guessing. "Did he really get up?" On here, some people thinking yeah while others said no. Me, I have no idea. But, it was a beautiful movie.
I’m pretty late here but I finally watched this movie. I had an absentee father, and I understand Ellie’s anger throughout the movie. I wasn’t there physically with my father when he died but I spoke some of the last words he heard over the phone. I told him I forgave him. He was in a coma, so I don’t know if he heard me. However, as I sat at his funeral with my wife and daughter, 12 years after seeing him last, I was more angry at him than I had ever been. As I write this my two babies are asleep in the room next to me and I know that nothing could ever take me away from them.
I just finished watching this and I have gotten saddened by many highly regarded movies but the character development and ending is the only time i have actually cried because of a movie let alone being so emotionally invested that my heart broke in the last 3 minutes
The most beautiful film I've even seen. I was so emotionally spent at the end of this film, I realized I had never seen a better film. I'm still trying to unpack it one month later.
The way I interpreted the ending is this: Charlie has been in the wheelchair. He is using his legs a little bit - which Aronofsky probably used as a reason to believe for folks who would question his walking. But his being heavy is not the reason why he can't get up when Ellie challenges him to earlier - it's that he has given up on life. In his last moments, when Ellie calls out "Daddy, please!" and starts reading the essay, it gives Charlie the WILL to do what Ellie wants - for him to be a part of her life. When she sees him get up and walk towards her, she continues reading the essay rather than helping him because she thinks her reading is effecting his return to life - she doesnt know what we know: that he wants someone to read the essay in his last moments (which we see at the beginning of the movie). But this strong willed attempt at returning to life is what takes Charlie away. At last, he died because he was accepted for what he was, his loved ones were no longer disgusted of him, and neither was he. He becomes the "whale" that was the purported monster: "incapable" of emotion, who the 'author' (Ellie) wanted to kill, but only managed to show the 'boring' parts of. Ultimately, the "whale" lets the "author" hunt himself down.
The entire movie, I thought this essay was possibly written by his boyfriend as he was his student prior to them falling in love. The fact it was written by his daughter was the most poetic plot twist. Brendan Fraser deserved the Oscar for this. He’s always been a phenomenal actor (and human being for that matter).
I love how they brought Christianity into this. The missionary wasn't a good person, he just wanted to look like one. The only thing he did was trying to persuade Charlie into finding god. He stole money from his own church and just wants the best for himself by trying to persuade other people to cling on to religion. Then there's Charlie, a broken man who has the best intentions, but screwed up a few times. He suffers from trauma, binge eating disorder and feels he's worth nothing. He at least tries to help his daughter by giving her money, because in his mind that's the only thing he can do for her now. He takes responsibility on his own. He is his own person en makes his own choices, without the help of god. Then later we find out the missionary was forgiven by his parents, because hey, that's what Christians do. All the while he thinks Charlie was in the wrong all this time by being gay. The hipocricy of the church was so obviously depicted in this movie here's just a man that loved another man and was afraid, sad and felt ashamed of what he had become. En then there's this wannabe Christian trying to save himself from the wrath of his God and just getting pardoned by his parents, despite not following the values he preaches. Charlie was right. It's all about HONESTY.
I just watched this movie at 1am in the morning, and i just watched a story that was unsettling, meaningful, and truthful to the harsh reality of things. I watched how he destroyed himself and kept going, and i saw a little bit of myself in him. Even though im still young at 19, i to have been struggling with just a few of these issues in different ways. Seeing it from an extreme prospective was devastating. Nobody can help anyone... that phrase is something i feel might stick. Nobody, can help anyone. Maybe im delusional, but just think about that for a moment.
The disconnection between human dreams and reality is the core of Ellie's essay. This is the reason why she feels sad for Ahab. On one side, the aspiration and pursuit of meaning, on the other, the overwhelming weight of indifferent nature. The essay also makes us think about those situations in which we may have strived for something, only to realize that it didn't bring us the satisfaction or happiness we expected. After all, how many of us have dedicated our lives to a goal that, in the end, will not help us at all? Moreover, when Ellie says "just for a while" (which seems to be the excerpt from the essay that enchanted her father the most), this can be interpreted as meaning that although Melville may offer us a temporary respite from the emotional and existential conflicts in the story in order to spare us, he cannot sustain this "pretense" indefinitely. At some point, there will be no way out but to face head-on the fundamental problem of human life proposed. There is a poetic beauty in this approach, as it acknowledges the inescapable reality of the dilemmas we face.
The ones who didnt like it are over sensitive with feelings. This movie shows people how guilt can destroy us if we dont forgive ourselves. People who only see the obeseity...are missing the major part of this movie
What did you think of the ending of The Whale? Comment your thoughts below!
i do agree that he never got up BUT it is known that for a dying person, the last sense to go is the sense of hearing. he probably heard her reading to him and started to pass as soon as he saw ellie turn around and could hear her reading the essay.
There is no way he got up and started walking. And Liz deserves the money, not Ellie. Ellie is pure evil. Liz was his rock. She did everything for him. She wasn't his nurse. He didn't have health insurance. She did all of that, on top of working grueling 12 hour shifts, simply because she loved Charlie. And knew that she would get absolutely nothing in return. Yes, Liz was an enabler, but even when she found out about the money, what she was upset about was that he didn't use it to help himself. Liz never cared about money, Ellie did. Liz is selfless, and a beautiful person. Ellie is a horrible delinquent, who will end up dropping out of high school, having 6 different baby daddys, going in and out of jail for drugs. And then die of an overdose at 28.
I have to disagree the poor little girl was angry and hurting most of her life because she lost her father once and then realized she was going to lose him again. I grew up with out a father and I was angry. my two oldest daughters grew up with out me and they are still showing the affects that I caused by not being their as much as I should have. one day I hope they can forgive me. 🙏
I like your idea because I can't let go of the notion that if he fell forward when he died he took her with him
@@carolynbrubaker1619 He’d probably fall on his side and besides she’d be smart enough to get back
I found poetic that while Alan starved himself to death, Charlie was always eating for two. He’d always order two pizzas, two meatball subs with extra cheese, a family bucket of wings. Almost like he was eating both for Alan and for himself.
*smacks lips* NICE
That's a very interesting perspective.
Nadia_H
Why didn't he adopt a dog?
@@ifyouonlyknew811 probably for the same reason he refused to go to the hospital. I think he blamed himself for what he had done to his family and for what happened to Alan. He didn’t think he deserved any form of saving. But that’s just my perspective.
@@nadia_h3792 Your perspective nails it, but my comment was sarcasm.
This was Ellie's movie. Her father was her "great white whale", a monster, she thought had no emotion, whom she wanted to destroy. She just let the audience see all the other boring stuff about him to protect us from the ending.
Out of all the comments I was reading this one is by far the one that sums it up to the tea.
Her character didn’t deserve any kind of redemption she was terrible
@@New_Orleans_Ghost_Hunter I don't think you understood the movie bruh
second that...her rage was her fighting her truth. Frustration with the situation and inability to save her father by barking at him....unlike how she could save the kid@@Connorita91
to say that she thought he had no emotion is so dumb. he's the only emotive character for 90% of the movie. she was just a dumb stereotype written to adhere to every trope until a sudden rift in the last 10sec of the movie
Some folks didn't like this film because it was uncomfortable. Man I missed uncomfortable films.
True, some people don't understand that eating a lot of junk food is bad but they get obese and die of kidney failure or cancer, which of course is tragic in our society
A lot of folks are dumb.
exactly!!! So weird, I just added The Whale to my Showtime watch list about two hours before this notification.
Real life isn’t comfortable
Real emotions aren’t comfortable
Real addiction isn’t comfortable
Witnessing real human suffering & desperation isn’t comfortable
Being human isn’t comfortable
And when you allow the movie to be uncomfortable they don’t feel like ‘characters’ they feel like PEOPLE
@@maenad1231 yes, that's true
The " daddy please" at the end broke my heart! I was hoping up until that moment that he would find the motivation to change his circumstances.
Yeah that was such a powerful moment!
Yeah bro that got me too 💔
He imagined it.
Same… I found it very sleffish of him to refuse to get himself help when his daughter begged him and then MAKE HER WATCH HIM DIE!!! His ex was right, it is always about “him”. If he truly cared for his daughter he would have gotten help FOR HER SAKE. She needed a father, that’s what broke her. “Daddy please” was her last plea, she is who I feel sorry for. And Liz.. and even his ex.. not him..
@@Curiousitydrive you missed the point a bit
A healthy person could make that decision
Save himself for the sake of his daughter
But he's not a healthy person
He was beyond saving
He couldn't live anymore
He was basically commiting suicide in the most painful and slow way
You missed the part where he say who would want him as a fatter
Who would want him around
It's not about selfishness really
It's about him being son mentally broken
He couldn't make the right decision not for him not for anyone else
I understand you are angry at the character
But he's not some sociopath who wanted his daughter to watch him die
He's sick mentally and physically
He couldn't be saved
He didn't want to live anymore
But he's last and only wish was to make sure his daughter knew she was wonderful
That's it
Also the "all about you" comment from his ex wive definitely came from the fact he left her
He couldn't be with her because he's gay but she didn't care
"All about him" suggests she expected him to suck it up and be with her even if he didn't want to
Keeping him apart from his daughter
First to get revenge and then because she thought she was evil
She's just as broken as him
Seeing herself as a victim of everyone including her daughter
She's also In a lot of pain
Killing herself by drinking
Making her daughter watch her fall apart and drink herself to oblivion
Yet you aren't mad at that because you understood she's suffering
So maybe try and understand that charlie is the same
She could too make her daughter watch her die if she continues
This a film about broken people
Not about villains and heroes
Man this ending had me in tears. Brendan was phenomenal in this, but I'd also give an equal amount of praise to Sadie Sink. Both of them made this ending very powerful. Really good movie
100%! She does deserver just as much credit for that powerful ending!
@@BrainPilot This might be my favorite performance from her besides Max
just the ending?, boy was i crying almost throughout the movie
@@yasmincastro892 Fair enough.
all of them acted really well. also appreciate that no unnecessary "romance" happened with thomas and ellie
I'm a 59 year old grown ass man and I cried my eyes out at the end of this movie. Teared up several times. Amazing film. Brendan Fraser not only deserved the Oscar for best actor but cemented himself in history as one of the truly great actors of his generation. Well done Brendan!!!!!!!
I think he was great but the other actors and I think more important was this movies writing great great great script
“Im sorry for leaving you” hes saying that for leaving her at 8 years old and leaving her now as he passes away , that was the moment i began to cry. Powerful ending to a beautiful film .
It was a beautiful, powerful end to the movie!
So unsettling too. How selfish of him to do that to his daughter AGAIN and to make her watch him die, because HE wanted closure.
If he was so sorry for leaving her, he wouldn't have. He would have taken better care of himself and gone to the hospital.. But instead, he assumed money was more important to ellie than his presence. If your kid is not reason enough to help yourself, that's just pathetic..
@@CuriousitydriveYes. I understand final wishes but he’s only reopening a wound she likely healed
Exactly!!
@@Curiousitydrive
My significant other works in healthcare as a nurse, and said that it was brutally real to see someone both consume themselves with an unhealthy addiction like overeating, but the more interesting point she made was that she has both seen and heard about people getting final bursts of energy and doing something seemingly impossible before their death (like Charlie getting up and walking to Ellie unassisted).
I do think that in his final moments, the light coming in to the home is not from a morning or afternoon/evening sun, but rather the light of the afterlife shining down on him as he prepares for his fate (also bear in mind that we don't see any sunlight during the whole movie, just gray skies and rain). Whether him getting up and walking, or that he was already unconscious by that time is up to interpretation, but I would not put it past that he did actually walk to her before collapsing in death.
My grandma fell into critical condition after she fell down the stairs due to her dementia she made a full recovery and made it home died a week later you never really know
I agree. I think that him getting up and walking to her was too important, not just for his character but hers too. She needed to know that her Dad fought to be as close to her as possible in his final moments, so she knew he truly did regret leaving her when she was young. This would go a huge way towards helping her heal from her trauma and grief, which was all HE wanted as well. When something is that important, the human body can do incredible things. I've heard stories of people in their final moments and things like this DO happen- people literally going outside, calling their loved ones for long conversations, taking part in activities- the day before they die.
honestly poor Ellie, that sounds super traumatic to have your dad suddenly walk towards you after never seeing him walk unassisted before then drop dead
@@tig3r.m0tHyeah. I thought exactly the same! It would be traumatic in itself!
I can attest to this, I literally watched my grandfather pass away in my grandparents living room and they do have this final burst of energy but afterwards you can also tell the transition from life to afterlife where they aren’t there mentally and physically but their spirit is already somewhere else.. I wasn’t there when my grandma died but I heard it was a very different and she was just asleep one minute and passed the next. She died in a hospital and I think they had her on some heavy medication. However maybe its like giving birth and the difference is between epidural and natural… I’ve experienced both and I obviously perfer the help but I think (just like charlie didn’t want to go to the hospital) experiencing this natural phenomenon is important for our personal human experience…
I prefer to believe he stood up, you’d be amazed what people can do for their final whimper in this cosmic void.
That's a positive way to look at it!
That was edgy as hell
Nope... wouldn't have been possible. That ticker was going out as you the discomfort on his face.
What a creative way to say absolutely nothing...
@@PlusVK22 true
I always liked the detail where Charlie would leave sliced apples for the crow on a plate covered in apple residue, implying it wasn’t the first time that he has fed the crow. Which also implies that Charlie IS capable of taking care of something/someone. So Ellie breaking the plate showed me that she realized the same thing. Breaking the plate almost out of jealousy (considering she’s been neglected by Charlie since she was 8). Very small detail but I love that kind of stuff.
Whole time I cried. The movie is about human suffering, hurt, trauma and healing. We deal with it in many different forms in life.
It was an incredible movie wasn't it!
Same here. All the raw emotion shown in the movie, and that bittersweet ending was enough to bring me to tears
So glad I saw this I saw the movie but didn’t get the whole story until this, thanks.
This movie is a voice to the unheard traumas that live only in the minds of those it haunts.
That's very well put!
What about the traumas that is caused to those around them that care for them? Liz is right, you can’t save someone who doesn’t want to be saved. Selfish. Especially if you have children. You don’t put that type of trauma ON THEM! Your duty to your children is to protect them. He literally made her watch him die.
@@Curiousitydrivei believe he is selfish. But this would have given a lot of closure to ellie, which would have been good in the end
@@confusedalex5612 possibly yeah, or seeing her father die could traumatize her even more? Not sure really
@@Curiousitydrive maybe she received closure in the end scene, seeing that her father loved her mote than anything. Im sure something changed for her in the last scene, if charlie hasnt have done that he would have died still despised and hated by his daughter
this movie really touched my soul. I'm a over weight middle aged man . and although I'm not as big as Charlie I can relate. I to suffer from depression and sometimes over eat . and this story gave me goosebumps. I laughed and cried and made me reflect on my transgressions. and gives me hope that I can mend my past relationships with my kids who I love dearly . and reminds me that it's never to late to wrong the past.
I Hope your doing well, keep your head up your gonna make it! Stay safe!
I hope the best for you ❤
I'm with you, man. I'm overweight as well, and the scene where Charlie chugs down on pizzas hit me like a stone because I realized I used to do the same about a month ago. I'd get stressed, buy a cheap pizza, and eat 8 slices of it... thankfully I'm excercising now and I'm doing my best to change my habits, but I do have a long way to go. I hope we can take this movie as a lesson to better ourselves. Stay strong.
get better. Take care of your health. That is the best you can do to for your children. And not what Charlie did. Making his daughter watch him die.
@@nekkawaii ❤I truly hope you do! Wishing you health and love. I think bettering yourself for yourself and those who love you, should be the take away.
My father died a couple years ago from CHF and had very similar mobility issues. I found this film to be beautiful and the acting was very impressive. R.I.P, dad ❤️
I am sorry for your loss
I hope he knew he was loved and that he was worth a beautiful life. ❤️🙏
It’s been 6 months since my mom passed, she had CHF as well and similar mobility issues. This film really hit me hard. RIP mom ❤
@@jkproductions971 🥺😔🕊
I like the surprise twist when Vecna levitates him at the end. He couldn't have Max, so he took her dad. Brilliant!
LOOOOOL!
Makes sense now. I thought he was going super sayin.
Golden. You win my dude. Hahahaha
LMAO
Bravo Vince!
I believe he stood up and walked over to her cause all she wanted to see was him truly try his hardest to enter her life again, and he wouldn't do that cause he knew he would die soon. My interpretation of the ending is that Charlie, despite knowing his fate, stood up and walked to his daughter to show her what she always wanted, he put in that effort despite knowing it was too late.
It is truly a film about the indomitable good inside of all people and love for each other. This film made me think about my own life, and made me feel better about it.
I prefer to believe he stood up.
A final yet fatal adrenaline rush
can actually work wonders.
I also do believe
that there is more to the sentence:
"I believe no one can save anyone"
It's basically the Antithesis
to Charlies final belief.
Ellies whole Essay
is about her realizing
that People
who let an adiction/obsession
consume their life
won't achieve anything,
that her life
(when compared to others)
isn't as bad
as she thought it is
& that she feels compassion/pity
for the guy who chases his "whale"
Charlie knew this
as he read it daily.
And I think this is why he chose
to let her read it out loud
in his final moment.
To do at least "one thing right".
It wasn't for him. It was for her.
Here's my reasoning
to why I think
that may be the case:
I believe the "whale" is a metaphor
for "addiction" or "obsession".
Think about it.
The Whale Hunter in Moby Dick
is obsessed with the Whale
& addicted to hunting it.
He lets his entire life
be consumed by the whale hunt,
only to ultimately achieve nothing
& have his ship wrecked
& himself drowned
by "the whale" (his own addiction).
Ellie feels pity for the guy
because he could've had a much
better life, had he simply let go
and stopped chasing "the whale".
Now the same applies for her dad,
Charlie.
He's developed
an unhealthy addiction
and is unable to overcome it.
She finds herself
in the very same position
she was in,
as she wrote the original essay:
Watching the demise of a person
that is unable to stop chasing
its "whale".
But there's even more to that.
Ellie herself is now chasing
her very own "whale" too
and
the religious Guy is also chasing
his own "whale".
We don't know if she tried to hurt
or help the religious Guy
but Charlie connects two dots:
1) Her essay shows that she's able
to feel compassion for people who chase "whales"
&
2) She "saved" the religious Guy
from "chasing his whale"
by showing him
that he ultimately was
the creator of his own "whale"
(His family doesn't hate him.
He only thought they would.)
This proves nothing
as we don't know if she wanted
to save or hurt him
but for Charlie it absolutely proves
that people CAN be saved
thus negates the sentence
that no one can safe anyone
and so in his final moments
he's not letting Ellie read her essay
to soothe himself
BUT
as a MIRROR for herself,
to show her that she's started
chasing a "whale" and to show her
that she already knows the answer
& the solution for her problem:
To simply let go.
The solution
to not get drowned by the Whale
is to stop chasing the Whale.
That's why it is so important
for him to stand up.
In the beginning of the movie
she told him that his only way
to truly prove to her
that he cares about her
is to stand up and walk toward her.
As he stands up,
he NOT ONLY proves that he cares
and thus ultimately shows
that her "Whale"
(the thought that her father
didn't care about her)
is empty too, a lie she told herself
a creation of misunderstandings
BUT
also cements and underlines
his very belief that Ellie CAN
be saved.
And it goes even further.
He knows he can only do so much
and that it ultimately is her
that needs to save herself.
His very death
in combination with her
reading that essay as it happens
is Charlies way to make sure,
she's going to think
about this essay for a loong time.
And in this very Essay
she basically tells herself,
that the only solution
to not get drowned by her "whale"
is to simply let go of it.
His very last lesson as a teacher
and as a father
was to teach his daughter
to let go of him,
to not let grief consume her life
like it did his.
Now even here, we don't know
if he succeeded as it ends here.
She may have fallen
into even deeper depression
through his act.
But his lesson still stands:
"People CAN be saved"
Wow this is so insightful, thank you so much!
Very beautiful
Idk why this doesn’t have more likes but I think you got the plot perfectly… and I love the way you wrote this comment out❤ but to futher add I also think he stood as well and as a person who has witnessed a death I can say for certain that his daughter will struggle with it for a time maybe even a long time but if shes as brilliant as he believes (and hes a trustworthy narrator) this will be the catalyst that directs the course of the rest of her life.
@@whitneybaxter3299because its obvious... Anyone with brain understand this.
Damn
I really hope that Brendan Fraser nabs the Best Actor Oscar. While the film itself was just so so in my opinion, his performance was so captivating, and really made you believe in his character's anguish.
Totally agree - I think he definitely deserves the Oscar for that performance!
Let’s go he’s got it now!
This aged well. He earned it and won it!
Whether it's correct or not, I like to interpret that Charlie was trying to gain the weight that Alan never did. In a way to try and symbolically save him from the guilt that plagues his life, for his perceived part in Alan's suicide.
Never thought of that but it is an original and plausible viewpoint
Something about the way "Liz" said "He's dying" to Ellie at the end of the movie really struck me. Absolutely amazing piece of cinema.
The moment it was revealed who wrote that very good essay, it really broke me into tears
It’s an engaging movie, filled with the human emotions everyone feels from time to time , and for some persistently. Anguish and despair, raw anger, and heartbreak and regret. So honestly acted by Brendan and Sadie in particular. Love the way Ellie acts out with such obvious anger…you just know the hurt is just below the surface. Charlie is really such a lovable character despite his “disgusting “ appearance and lack of courage needed to improve himself, or actually save himself. It is lovely to witness his transformative, though awkward love and ability to not only see the good in others, but to inspire. Such a true teacher. And love the lesson of honesty. It ends up being an uplifting movie when all is said and done. The ending is surprising, and magical . Charlie has taken his mistakes to heart and assures that he has actually done something meaningful in his life by healing the relationship he has had with Ellie. The movie could become a classic likened to some of the old-time movies such as “Its A Wonderful Life” and others. I truly wish them all luck at the Oscars!!
Yeah I hope that Brendan wins the oscar for this performance!
@@BrainPilot I do too!
Brooklyn P
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall Jimmy Stewart masturbating to gay porn. That's not something most people would want to rewatch every Christmas Eve.
I really cried when I saw the whale. I especially cried when Charlie got up and made a few steps toward his daughter and they were both smiling, then the light shon brightly as he passed away. Brendan totally had my heart. He played this character to perfection. He deserved every award and praise possible. It was an amazing performance. Good on you Brendan. Love you to bits.
The sun shining through the door could definitely be used as a metaphor for walking towards the light
Most definitely!
It was such a sad story but it was a beautiful ending. Brendan acted so well
Totally agree! Yeah Brendan did a great job!
He also said his final goodbye to his students
Very true!
I watched The Whale for the second time today, it still hits like a ton of bricks. This is Brendan Fraser's magnum opus, just a spectacular performance in one of the most moving films I've ever watched. I'm rarely moved to tears, The Whale has done it twice.
The movie was an eyesore to watch throughout because of how dark and cloudy the setting was. During Charlie’s last seconds I think I audibly said “ah it’s bright now, that’s not good” because it was so outside of the ordinary. I definitely think it was him going towards the light.
That's fair!
let’s not forget about the scene at the beach. he was at a cross roads. the family he loved but you’ll noticed was behind his back. he was facing the future and freedom “the open sea” we know that he chose freedom because he left his family but also multiple times urged everyone around him to be honest. it’s what he valued the most and was speaking from experience. but at that cross road at the beach was his happiest yet safest moment in life. he had both his family and liberation all at the same time. AMAZING movie and i’m happy brenden frazier is back! my childhood favorite actor.
Great insight. I’ve watched many analysis comments about this movie. This is the best insight out of all the theories and “did you notice” type comments. 👍
I finally saw this movie last week. What a very beautiful movie! I loved Brendan Fraser's acting! There were times that I kind of forget that it is him playing the character!
Yeah it was incredible wasn’t it!
Brendan Fraser did amazing in this film. It really speaks true to a lot of struggling parents and children out there.
I just finished watching this film, it was beautifully portrayed, the cast- especially Brendan, were phenomenal.
It was a very emotional watch for me and I also lost my dad at a similar age to Ellie, from similar (not as extreme) circumstances and grew up with an alcoholic mum. Seeing the binging scene was soul destroying. The familiarity of the guilt, shame, embarrassment and disgust from people brought back so many emotions. I was silently pleading with Charlie throughout the movie to go to the hospital and get help but I was fairly certain on how it would end and once again I found myself watching helplessly, being unable to save someone who doesn’t want to be saved. I was angry because I knew the money didn’t matter, what Ellie needed most of all was her dad. She needed love, love that she had been denied and was angry at the world for, love that her dad had for her in endless amounts.
I’m going to go cry myself to sleep now 🥲
I'm crying because.... THIS ☝🏾
I loved that when he was walking towards her- she took a step towards him to meet him in the middle- as a way to shoulder the burden of him having to take 1 more extra step to reach her. They both reached out to each other in the end. Amazing ending.
On another note did anyone find it ‘interesting’ that Liz kept enabling him with food? I WONT spoil anything but those of you who have seen it will know what I mean, I even wonder if she was punishing him.
That's a dumb statement. Think of it: If you're loved one was depressed, mobidly obese, and the only thing that brings him/her temporary comfort is eating, you would do the same thing. You also have to keep in mind that he is his own person; an adult. Liz is only trying to help him in any possible way she can with what he wants (because she knows/knew that he was going to die already.) and if literally the only way she can help him is by just simply getting his food for him, what can you do. She wasn't punishing him either, HE wanted it, so technically he is punishing himself. It's a sad movie because in reality no one BUT HIMSELF could do anything. He chose not to do anything (as if he could in the first place) and therefore had to pay for it. Liz brought the food for him out of her kindness, because whether she brought it to him or not, he was still going to eat it. Again, it's devastating, but what can you do?
Dumb
Was not punishment. In her own world and in her own way she felt (that bringing him food and seeing him gain weight and eat all that she brings) salvation, purpose and achieved the goal: She desperately tried this before with Alan and no matter how much food or how often she tried to get him out of malnutrition, she eventually failed.
I think it's very clear she loved him
Yes, definitely. It could be interpreted that she was A) torturing him like you said or B) being selfish and using him as a gross way to satisfy her egotistical needs
This ending spawned a wailing cry…I can’t recall another film/performance having that effect on me…ever…Brendan Fraser for Best Actor…WOW.
Yeah I hope he gets it!
I don't know if you watched "me before you" but if you like, give it a try. The whale and Me before you, are the movies that made me ugly cry.
@@AafkeKastelijn thanks for that tip! I don’t know the movie so will check it out.✔️
@@PaulaBoggsBand You're welcome, I hope you like it :)
I love how the entire story suddenly comes together in the final scene. The essay he’s been reading was his daughter’s the whole time and it symbolizes her life in regard to dealing with her father, as well as the fact that he symbolizes the whale in the story of Moby Dick.
Him walking up to her (without the assistance) is just a mirror of when he couldn't earlier in the film. It might be physically unrealistic but not impossible, and definitely more poetic. Also, if he died in the chair earlier, they wouldn't have gotten the moment together as she looks at him and smiles.
It's all in his head. Everything after she open the door is a hallucination.
@@ifyouonlyknew811 that’s fine if that’s your interpretation!
This is the problem that a lot of people have missed, myself included. There is a great mystery I believe regarding the essay. There is one quote from the essay that never gets finished being read out loud. Just as she stops reading that part she almost has an epiphany and looks up to her father as he smiles and then dies. That smile they both shared shows that that sentence in particular was specifically important and therapeutic for them both to get closure. But what that is is unknown and a lot of people have missed this important part!
Wow, yes I missed this
She was saying" this book made me think about my own life, it made me feel glad for my family. "Then she looks up at her dad and they share a smile.
@@nebulizer746 and how do you know that?
I viewed this as him deciding that he has something to finally live for. He thinks he's going to hear the poem when he dies but ironically it's when he's going to live. The floating into the air is a metaphor to show that he has lost the weight of grief and despair
If I were to make an argument for the other side of the coin it would be that throughout the film everytime the play was read to him or he read the play it calmed him and gave him strength. If there was ever a time where he would be able to stand it would be elly reading her essay to him. Whether he didn't stand up or he did I think the ending is just as good.
I think Charlie loved the essay because it was what he lacked, honesty. The movie drives the point that honesty is beautiful and how you should live your life. Charlie ended up in his situation because he wasn't honest with who he was and who he loved.
I was surprised at this ending. Charlies' lover, Allan had a compassionate sister and he also had Charlie, who sacrificed much to be with Allan. Over some people that clearly didnt really care about Allan, he chose to let that consume him and lead to his death rather than appreciate what he had and the supportive people in his life. Similarly, Charlie had a great friend in Allan's sister Liz. She sacrificed much for him. Charlie also knew Ellie's mom was not a great mother and was allowing Ellie to head down a path in which money would never fix. Charlie does not use any money to help Liz, a person that was there for him, but gives it all to Ellie who needs a father more than she needs money. Charlie could have used the money to get himself healthy and be the father Ellie needed, also not putting Liz through watching someone she loves die a second time. In Charlies argument with his ex-wife, he says he wants to know he did at least one good thing in his life. Quitting on Ellie and thinking he could just leave some money to her is a bad thing. UP to the end, he stubbornly chooses to do the wrong thing. He knows he needs to get to the hospital, but refuses. He dies in front of his daughter that needed him more than anything. Charlie's chose to leave his daughter, not keep fighting for her, and try to make it all ok by leaving her money while dying on front of her while she was young enough to switch her life around with him in her life. She was so close to being able to make her own decisions in spite of her mother, as she would soon be 18, and yet Charlie is about to send heer down a destructive path to cope, most likely with money to supply her into a spiraling drug habit. End scene for Charlie gets an F
You make some good points
I keep contrasting Charlie's choices with mine when my life was destroyed by someone I trusted. Instead of neglecting my health to the point of death, I resolved that I would do no more harm. My life was tragic too [I'm77 now] and was never what it should have been, but I persisted in doing the best I could and helping others when possible. So I wasn't much impressed by Charlie. I'm VERY impressed with Fraser's acting though. Not sure about his message.
Although I deeply appreciate your take on the finale of the film, I think it’s intended to be open to interpretation. Darren A. Kinda likes to blur the lines between reality and fantasy. You’re never sure about what you’re seeing. Even though Charlie most certainly died, that scene might very well happened not in his mind but in a world that is seemingly touched or at least momentarily interconnected with a more transcended or supernatural kind of place. Anyway, great take and really hoping that Mr Fraser gets his well deserved Oscar
Totally fair - I understand where you're coming from! I hope he get's it as well!
This movie was so poetic. I loved that the actual essay he wanted read to calm down was Ellie’s. As a child of abandoned parents, we do not understand until we become parents. Yes I’m still angry but we always love our parents.
This reminded me of my father. Depression is real 😢
Just watched the movie and it was amazing. It was so poignant and I cried several times throughout.
It is definitely powerful!
you’re amazing ! You care about people! You are amazing
I cried like a baby with the ending, Great movie
I work EMS and see people like this all the time. People don't realize their are people like this all around you. This is not uncommon. Really highlights how lonely they feel. Super sad.
I used to work in healthcare, and I once looked after a man like Charlie. He was morbidly obese, and his cupboard was crammed with sweets, carbs, and fatty foods. I never saw him beat himself off (Thank God), but I did see a few dirty novels by his bedside. He later died in hospital. Such a shame because he was such a lovely man who could have done more with his life.
Nurse Hadley (famous TT Hospice Nurse) will tell you that her terminally ill patients OFTEN have a burst of unusual energy just prior to death. In fact, it's one of the signs that lets her know it will be very soon. Could be he walked right to the door & Ellie
When I tell you I haven't genuinely had full on tears streaming down my face over a film in years. That ending was powerful man. Needed that cry.
I Finally watched this last night and it had me in tears a few times because of how I could relate to losing my father in a similar situation almost 6 years ago. He drank himself to death and like Charlie wanted to die after he got my sister through college successfully. My father might not have been as big as this but he had some mobility issues at times. This film definitely is within my like top 3 favorite films now because of that deep connection. Brendan Fraser deservedly so won that Oscar; and it has to be the award that my passion came out for the most ever. I believe hands down that no one else was even close to beating him out for it. His performance was just breathtakingly amazing and heartfelt and perfect. Also Sadie Sink did a great job as well as Hong Chau who imo should have won best supporting as well. Congrats all around and I'll always be a fan of Fraser forever.
Go online find the stage play if you think this was dark the og ending is down right soul crushing. He dies alone then the stage just goes black comes back and hes dead. They stay that way until people get uncomfortable and start leaving. No music. No cast bow out. Nothing
Fraser is going to win the Oscar for best actor for his portrayal as "Charlie" in "The Whale."
I hope he does!
Of all the actors nominated, BF's performance was the most emotional.
Well he did
I think that like the ending to Inception, the writer left clues for different possible realities to the ending. No one truth is correct, because no one truth is confirmed by the writer. In a way, Charlie did walk and he didn't at the same time. It's up to the viewer to make the decision.
I watched this movie while traveling on a plane. The plane landed before the movies end but we were delayed at the point of disembarking so that gave me time to finish watching the movie. I was so moved and impressed by the storyline, acting and the moving performances of all cast members; I have found an addition to my list of favorites.
Yeah, it was such a great movie!
I think her daughter never stood there. The moment she opens the door he dies. The sudden light is already part of his fantasy.
Its possible he never even had that whole conversation with her. Everything after his friend notices he started hallucinating could of been fabricated imo.
Hello from Texas 😊 I just watched this movie. 38 years ago, I weighed over 400 lbs. The scales couldn't tell me how much over 400 that I was. I gave birth to my son that year. So much of myself I seen in Charlie, on many levels.
I figured out early in the movie that the days were counting down to Charlie's death, yet him dying was really hard to watch. The relationships that were important to Charlie, he wanted them to know that he loved them, especially his daughter. I thank The Good Lord that I'm not carrying around all that excessive fat anymore. It was putting a horrible strain on my heart and my mind was just a rotten pudding. I was waiting to die. Thank you Brendan for your work here and for all the other actors that brought this film into fruition. 😊❤
I like to think he really did stand!
Justification: Elle beginning to read the essay relieved Charlie of all the weight, a manifestation of his failures that stemmed from him leaving her. Elle forgiving her monster of a father (in her eyes) showed true forgiveness and compassion something she lacked throughout (hopeless she was a lost cause). This gesture of kindness reinforced Charlie that she would be okay and he smiles because he finally did something good and got through to his daughter. Showing that hope and honesty prevails. Making somewhat of amends for leaving her.
He also is proven right that people are incapable of not caring, by Elle caring for him in his final moments.
If she truely did just walk out it would be a very bleak and hopeless ending, whereas I feel the film wanted to portray a more hopeful ending.
Even though I'm not done watching the video, I do believe that he managed to walk these steps, and only died after that. Indeed, dying people (i.e people in palliative care) often display a surprising boost of energy right before their death.
That's totally fair!
Yeah, he fell over and crushed her
I knew a man who was roughly 500 pounds. He would come into the dinner that I worked at, and come in at breakfast and stay until closing. Ate three square meals, plus dessert in between meals. He was the most intelligent man, it was like his brain was an encyclopedia. You could ask him literally anything and he could explain it to you. Such a beautiful man, with so much class and knowledge. He was truly such a gentleman. He passed last year after succumbing to his health conditions due to his weight. This movie made me think of him, and what his life might have looked like when he wasn’t sitting in the dining room at my job. It broke my heart to pieces. What a tragically beautiful film.
My question is, how did Charlie and basically Liv both know that in that exact moment Charlie was dying at the end?
He was wheezing before and had been in worse situations.
Liz did work in the medical field so I’m sure she picked it signs of when he would pass. Now I genuinely don’t think she expected him to pass right then and there because she did mention that she’d be downstairs, in way that said “I won’t be too far if you need me”
People use the restroom one last time while they’re passing maybe she thought of that. Also when he hallucinated I think that was a major sign that she could’ve looked at.
Made the mistake of watching this at work while I’m recovering from a work accident. Almost cried in front of all my blue collar fellas
The visual tool of light at the end, not only the blast of white light but the way it enters the space when she’s reading, ya it got me.
Great performance by Fraser
Totally agree!
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I think Charlie hallucinated most of the ending. I think his daughter did go there but if you noticed when sgd opened the door it was bright but when his friend left it was dark. I also don’t think he truly stood up and walked to his daughter but it shows that he cares about her. In the movie he wasn’t able to stand and walk on his own much.
this movie was great, Liz was enabling, blow up on him for the life choices and he says sorry but she grabs him a big bucket of chicken right after.
The first time i saw this masterpiece i believed Chalie got up. I re-watched it yesterday and i noticed that when Ellie opens the door to leave, you can see how sunny it is (a first in this movie) and what looks like a beach behind her.. Maybe i'm the only one to see it but i can't un-see it now and it makes this story even more heartbreaking!
theres nothing more dignified than a man approaching his death fearlessly
This movie was beautiful from start to finish. I haven’t cried like this in a long time. Just absolutely a marvelous story and Brandon captured my heart ❤️
It was a beautiful movie wasn't it!
I am absolutely convinced he got up for real. The floating away part was obviously hallucinated, but he absolutely got up from that couch and walked over to his daughter.
That's a positive way to look at it!
@@BrainPilot I think it has to be the case. "It was all a dream" wouldn't just be depressing it'd be bad writing.
Sure he did. The theory that he died on the couch doesn't make much sense to me either. That huge effort of making those few steps could be too much for his heart.
this is the only relevant review ive seen so far
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from my perspective, i feel the whole movie was somewhat around salvation and saving one another for the greater good - there was a lot of religious allusions with the church sub-plot. for example there's:
- charlie not saving himself by not going hospital
- ellie saving the church guy
- charlie not saving his boyfriend
- charlie not saving his daughter through not raising her
and especially the ending sparked some religious allusions of him ascending and him being 'saved'
This film hit me Harder than I thought it would.
Same here! The ending was so good!
Same here
My dad had cancer in his pancreas, the 2nd most deadly form of cancer apparently or atleast very deadly. The day he passed, he was some what normal...but then all of a sudden just shut down. The doctors told us it was time and a matter of time before he would pass. We were next to him for 12 hours, in the 8th hour he came to life and started mumbling. He rose up from his lying position in the bed and was delirious and was looking for us or wanting us. We held him softly as he tried to fight to get up, but he was weak. He had barely eaten or drank in days so he had no power left to withstand our minimal efforts of just holding/hugging him. When i saw the movie and Charlie rose up, i started crying my eyes out....because it resembled my father from that moment when he was on the bed. Shortly after he rose he went lying down again and we felt his slow down and him chocking on himself for the last 4 hours before we finally felt his last heart beat. Do i think it is possible Charlie stood up, yes because i have seen it with my own eyes. Especially if the person has incredible strength and stubbornness and i see that in Charlie...but i do feel i would have fallen to the ground after and then passed potentially. This outcome is so much better seeing him ''leave'' earth in a less painful way, because seeing the life leave someone's eyes or feeling their last heart beat is fucking brutal. I am in tears writing this because the emotions and memories coming back to me. I am the 2nd in line of 5 children, i never imagined i was the one to be the one with my hand on his heart at the end and the one to turn his head to the side and close his eyes. My relationship was never the best with him, but he knew i had forgiven him. Still it hurts so much that we never got to mend and the pain i can only imagine would have been ever worse if my relationship was good...i don't think i would ever be able to do what i did that day then.
He passed away 8 months before i saw the movie.
I'm not usually an emotional man but this ending was sad as fuc
I know what you mean!
5 star review , good sound ,just perfect - you deserve more attention - more people need to see this
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Sadie’s character, Ellie, missed her father more than anything. She was using the essays as an excuse to spend more time with him. To say she didn’t love Charlie with all her heart, is a misinterpretation of what happened. No one can be this angry at someone without caring for them deeply.
I just finished watching this 2 minutes ago and wow...I must say this movie just had me glued to the screen and just speechless for like a good 10 mins towards the end
1:50 : we knew from like, 20 minutes into the movie that the essay was written by Ellie. Liz finds it on the counter and points to the name at the top, asks something like "has she been here? does her mom know?" etc etc
when he tried to eat himself to death he accomplished his goal. i think that the scene where the bird plate was broken was symbolic of his death. they say when we die our lives flash before our eyes. nobody really knows what happens in those last few moments. perhaps for him the only part of his life to flash was his dream of coming to a state of absolution with his daughter.
One of my theories is that he actually died when he threw up in the kitchen/aspirated. Everything after that was fantasy.
Then, also maybe he could have already died when Liz is trying to listen to his heart. That's how nurses pronounce someone dead in the nursing home. She wasn't touching him, she was bracing herself on the couch instead. "Why did you do this to me again?" Makes more sense. He was either gone or very close.
The third way is as explained here, with the light coming through and the daughter turning away. When she turns back, he is gone.
I don't believe he got up unassisted, ever.
I love Darren’s ability to take any subject, no matter what it is, and whittle it into a dark tool to make you feel discomfort
I saw Elvis a few days ago. Then today, I just saw this movie, The Whale. And I was crying. Especially at the end. No wonder Brendan Fraser won an Oscar. He was incredible in this movie. The ending left a lot of people guessing. "Did he really get up?" On here, some people thinking yeah while others said no. Me, I have no idea. But, it was a beautiful movie.
I’m pretty late here but I finally watched this movie. I had an absentee father, and I understand Ellie’s anger throughout the movie. I wasn’t there physically with my father when he died but I spoke some of the last words he heard over the phone. I told him I forgave him. He was in a coma, so I don’t know if he heard me. However, as I sat at his funeral with my wife and daughter, 12 years after seeing him last, I was more angry at him than I had ever been. As I write this my two babies are asleep in the room next to me and I know that nothing could ever take me away from them.
This movie is a great example of how hurt people hurt people...and how the cycle continues.
I just finished watching this and I have gotten saddened by many highly regarded movies but the character development and ending is the only time i have actually cried because of a movie let alone being so emotionally invested that my heart broke in the last 3 minutes
The most beautiful film I've even seen. I was so emotionally spent at the end of this film, I realized I had never seen a better film. I'm still trying to unpack it one month later.
Yeah it was amazing!
The way I interpreted the ending is this: Charlie has been in the wheelchair. He is using his legs a little bit - which Aronofsky probably used as a reason to believe for folks who would question his walking. But his being heavy is not the reason why he can't get up when Ellie challenges him to earlier - it's that he has given up on life. In his last moments, when Ellie calls out "Daddy, please!" and starts reading the essay, it gives Charlie the WILL to do what Ellie wants - for him to be a part of her life. When she sees him get up and walk towards her, she continues reading the essay rather than helping him because she thinks her reading is effecting his return to life - she doesnt know what we know: that he wants someone to read the essay in his last moments (which we see at the beginning of the movie). But this strong willed attempt at returning to life is what takes Charlie away. At last, he died because he was accepted for what he was, his loved ones were no longer disgusted of him, and neither was he. He becomes the "whale" that was the purported monster: "incapable" of emotion, who the 'author' (Ellie) wanted to kill, but only managed to show the 'boring' parts of. Ultimately, the "whale" lets the "author" hunt himself down.
What an actor, never knew I was that good, an Oscar well deserved Brandon Frazer :-)
I thought he was going to fall on her and crush her. To be honest, I'd've preferred that.
You're not alone in thinking that.
The entire movie, I thought this essay was possibly written by his boyfriend as he was his student prior to them falling in love. The fact it was written by his daughter was the most poetic plot twist. Brendan Fraser deserved the Oscar for this. He’s always been a phenomenal actor (and human being for that matter).
I love how they brought Christianity into this. The missionary wasn't a good person, he just wanted to look like one. The only thing he did was trying to persuade Charlie into finding god. He stole money from his own church and just wants the best for himself by trying to persuade other people to cling on to religion. Then there's Charlie, a broken man who has the best intentions, but screwed up a few times. He suffers from trauma, binge eating disorder and feels he's worth nothing. He at least tries to help his daughter by giving her money, because in his mind that's the only thing he can do for her now. He takes responsibility on his own. He is his own person en makes his own choices, without the help of god. Then later we find out the missionary was forgiven by his parents, because hey, that's what Christians do. All the while he thinks Charlie was in the wrong all this time by being gay. The hipocricy of the church was so obviously depicted in this movie here's just a man that loved another man and was afraid, sad and felt ashamed of what he had become. En then there's this wannabe Christian trying to save himself from the wrath of his God and just getting pardoned by his parents, despite not following the values he preaches. Charlie was right. It's all about HONESTY.
This was the first ever movie to make me cry and i loved it
It was a powerful one for sure!
This is why I stand by the fact that Ozempic can be life saving for people with morbid obesity.
I just watched this movie at 1am in the morning, and i just watched a story that was unsettling, meaningful, and truthful to the harsh reality of things. I watched how he destroyed himself and kept going, and i saw a little bit of myself in him. Even though im still young at 19, i to have been struggling with just a few of these issues in different ways. Seeing it from an extreme prospective was devastating. Nobody can help anyone... that phrase is something i feel might stick. Nobody, can help anyone. Maybe im delusional, but just think about that for a moment.
The disconnection between human dreams and reality is the core of Ellie's essay. This is the reason why she feels sad for Ahab.
On one side, the aspiration and pursuit of meaning, on the other, the overwhelming weight of indifferent nature.
The essay also makes us think about those situations in which we may have strived for something, only to realize that it didn't bring us the satisfaction or happiness we expected.
After all, how many of us have dedicated our lives to a goal that, in the end, will not help us at all?
Moreover, when Ellie says "just for a while" (which seems to be the excerpt from the essay that enchanted her father the most), this can be interpreted as meaning that although Melville may offer us a temporary respite from the emotional and existential conflicts in the story in order to spare us, he cannot sustain this "pretense" indefinitely. At some point, there will be no way out but to face head-on the fundamental problem of human life proposed.
There is a poetic beauty in this approach, as it acknowledges the inescapable reality of the dilemmas we face.
The ones who didnt like it are over sensitive with feelings. This movie shows people how guilt can destroy us if we dont forgive ourselves. People who only see the obeseity...are missing the major part of this movie