How To Increase Terpenes & THC
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- We The Growers sits with Chris from @Ghostbudstersfarm and Chris Durand, Director of Research & Development at Athena. In this clip, Chris Durand details the primary drivers for Terpenes and THC, and how you can increase the percentage of both.
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I found that if I play a recording of my ex-wife's nagging and complaining on a 24-hour loop, my plants get stressed .
Need a Nobel Peace prize for that one!
Best comment ever
I was havin a toke when i read that and almost fuckin died, i cant stop coughing 🤣🤣
But how do you feel, not worth it you can hear.
@@raylewis6117 I FEEL GREAT IM, DEVORSED
I’m a simple kinda guy. If Chris Durand says I should be doing something in the garden , I’m implementing it
@@yetiandcoco it’s okay you probably grow boof
The key to unlocking thr full potential is to use biostimulants to trigger SAR responses without stressing the plant at all. I've been using a mix of Chitosan, Salicylic acid and amino acids as a foliar. It makes a very noticeable difference after a week of application. I'm supprised Athena doesn't have a biostimulant product like this! It would save me mixing my own.
Salicylic acid is the shit!
Chitosan makes a big difference
hi, may i ask how you mix your own ? whats the % and also how strong is the Salicylic acid ?
@@karimbauer8720 I don’t. I just buy it from @bokashiearthworks . It’s the most effective one on the market and really well priced. It’s cheaper just to get it from them.
Worm castings and coco with salts works for me
Seen this from the new era of growers that everyone for some reason decided not to stress there plants at all . There are so many methods used over the 3 decades in growing hydroponics.
When leds came out seen this really happen by alot of people .
Using temps , nutrients , flushing , lighting changes , etc all used to causes a stress ! Love seeing this being posted .
So sick of people saying "good" genetics. When they need the right genetics for the environment. Especially when most breeders selling "good" genetics give very little info on the plant. Different cultivars for different environments. To expect one cultivar to grow in all climates isn't gonna work. So find genetics for your environment. And of course most only talk of indoor. Flushing kills the brix levels. Fruit and berries loose taste when getting a lot of rain around harvest kills the brix levels.
If you grow and allow some to seed every year the plants will adapt to the environment but it takes time. Genetics are a great start but environment changes the genes.
Smartest advice I have seen in UA-cam comments
Very very true bro
I wouldn't get tooo mad. A ton of breeders are marketing to indoor growers and they assume the same environmental control
All you gotta do is Google where the strain originated from in the world and then look up the average temp,sunlight,rainfall,humidity ect in that part of the world and then adjust your growing environment to match it.
For outdoor pots I’ve done not watering stress. Unintentionally. And wow the terps were insane and the trics went pretty crazy to.
So I'm curious how your applying this method? Would you mind to explain and when your doing it?
@@chrisblair3081last few weeks during flush last 2 weeks or 3 use tap water or non ph water also there’s a few other ways to stress them out safely to improve the trichomes
@@chrisblair3081 As the plant ages, especially during flower your pot size matters. The watering needs to increase as well as nutrients for guerilla growers. I have managed to rescue a plant that was severely rootbound with an immense watering and a proper nutrient regiment.
In short, homie was maybe working or was just high and forgot to water the ladies. I have only grown from potted plants and can vouch for how much more damn needy they are for water and how quick they suck it all up LOL
Yes my ears are perked to hear this too.
@@SchoolforHackers it’s pretty simple skip a day of watering. The plant will think it’s the end of its life and produce more trics. Last two weeks . If you didn’t want to skip a day of watering just water less. It’s all about stressing the plant.
Finally some real knowledge! Still learning. Stress and Hormones lol always flush unless you're a soil organic tea person... Sparkling weed sucks.
Running my first cycle with Athena! So happy to have stumbled across this video. Your knowledge is much appreciated
So I had this 1 plant that was dragging out end flower time and I had a auto outside that started getting bud rot ,so I threw it in my tent , and switch the light back to a regular cycle 16 on whatever off . And the plant that should have finished by now , I let sit in there for like 4 days before I figured it was finished , and let me tell ya , within 4 days the trichomes that built up on the plant was insane . Pretty sure the added light definitely built up more trichome growth by at least 20% than what it looked like before I threw the auto in .
Back in the 80's early 90's nobody knew about pH or proper feeding or nutrients and we had beautiful monster plants. What's up with that? 🤔
Was thinking that earlier... And it was killer and cheap..
Hannah instruments has been selling PH meters for Nursery's since the 80's. I have one from the 90's.
@@fishingbob8374 ya kinda got me there but the average grower didn't know anything about pH then
@@fishingbob8374 were those nurseries growing cannabis?
Agreed
Hps maybe for something of scale , but my 1st proper led (quantum lm301b) made my setup go to next level. I used to do 3x400w then 2x600w , now I've got 3x300w quantum boards . I don't have to worry about fresh bulbs or how to effectively get my room under 100f , my quality went way up and my yields up avg 40%.
So much good information thank you
Running hps snd mh for the whole grow this run. One side will get one or the other, middle overlap gets both. Im excited.
keep this thread updated!! im curious
Expect different bud structure, I have one room in HID lights, some strains just do better.
You should do checkerboard set up with it , you can then use the room to veg with MH only and switch to a mix hps/MH for flower giving it a awesome full spectrum with the low blue and far red combo, I worked for a few big cultivations in Nevada and they started implementing this all over the industry 2-3 years ago
any updates diego?
I always incorporate MH bulbs last 3 weeks makes a big difference in potency and terms
I followed the Athena manuals steering method and got some incredible results. On round two it was just necessary i didnt have any veg time so grew em tall for the first 3-4 weeks and switched the watering up and Bam they just got wide and fat. I thought I would see some results i didnt realize just how much I can make em do what I want em to do. I ran 3 harvest in 3 months just collect and pick strains and messed up a little and dint take my own advice and I made to many changes on grow 4, I topped them more times, I over vegged a little but I have room, I kept the same company for nutrient but I switched from liquid to powder and i didnt run C02 until about week 4... everything is fine but its isnt epic eye buggin fuck what did you do? how did you do that this time. If you make changes make em one at a time so you know if worked or not...or which thing didnt work. Crop steering as defined by Athenas manual is the real deal though and i really had good results with the fade product. Im really looking for the right bio stimulant that I can still pass testing and live worry free. Im gonna use triacontanol which i cant prove myself but said be the active ingredient in Snow Storm Ultra and I use Stack and IPM and Cocowet too. Grow 5 is getting the full monty. Terpinator just doesnt work ...ive been told Bloombastic is the bomb but so is the price and for commercial its a little intimidating. Im gonna give Signal Terpine enhancer a try 50 bucks a gallon compared to 350...
What would yall recommend i feed my plants daily 🤔
Nothing daily. Unless it's organic weaker worm castings or such.
So go for bulk with stress free environment up till week 6 of flower and then slightly stress?
Thats what I get from it. I think most often nutrient based stress seems to be the recommended option. Have you seen any insight? This short clip doesnt really talk about how to apply the right kind of stress at the right time.
That’s what the formula does. Before I switched to Athena, I also dialed back by nitrogen about week 6 depending upon the strain.
Im using cana nutrients but i also have a bottle of fade. How would i use fade with cana nutrients. Do i stop all nutrients an fees fade and cleanse last 2 weeks.
first 3 weeks, stress with high media ec, and generative conditions. creates tighter nodal spacing, less stretch, as well as more bud swelling.
@@holyNodesstretch is nice though especially dealing with any z genetics.
Hey guys I run a commercial grow here in oklahoma, I'm using proline and the gals love it i would like to talk to yall about stacking and flushing more
Give our Tech support line a call 844-333-1818, or hit us up in the DM's @athena.ag
Is proline organic?
It is! But in powder form
@@NativeFlower_8no
Many long-time growers know that the quality of the HPS yield is still difficult to achieve with LEDs
The most interesting thing is this debate on temperature, LEDs heat up less, you can get closer to the plants resulting in higher ppf/dli values than HPS, BUT, using a suitable cooltube system, HPS heat up less than LEDs, and you can get even 20cm from the glass without burning it, exponentially increasing the light power!
Is there any test on PPF/DLI with HPS + cooltube at 20/30cm distance?
It would be interesting to see an impartial comparison of the 2 technologies compared in the best of their setups, and for HPS the best setup is equivalent to having them in cooltube attached to the direct air extraction system.
Of course without a cooltube the temperature produced by the HPS is an extremely important and limiting factor in the equation, but if with the HPS you can eliminate the temperature problem from the equation simply by using the cooltube, this cannot be done with LEDs, the hot air produced remains in the growroom rather than being instantly carried out of the room as with the HPS+coolbutes, resulting in an overall increase in the temperature of the growroom as much if not more than with the HPS.
Some times i think y'all are straight genius 😊 no really though. Like if i wasn't told some of these things, honestly i don't think i would have ever come up with
Does Athena offer any guides or tables for deciding EC relative to water use efficiency (WUE) or VPD? Makes sense to run high EC in a sealed room with lower VPD, i.e., low transpiration.
Living soil for me
Yes. The way to go is nature's way.
In the ground or in pots?
What is “stacking”?
Stacking nutrients in the substrate is achieved through using high frequency irrigation events to build up the optimal level of nutrients for the plant in the stage of growth that you're in. With a raw powder like the Pro Line, the EC needs to be built up specific ranges throughout the plants life. Establishing a good irrigation strategy using moisture content sensors to hit perfect dry backs would be ideal.
Southern MN gonna kill the industry. Give it 3 years to see some top shelf with best of the best. We comin
Thanks for using a bunch of acronyms and trade lingo many of don't know. I came away with no idea what you guys were talking about.
Honestly fade stress is the best, when you let the sun flush the plant. So don't chop early.
when fade stressing are you just watering or are you still feeding
I grow fantastic buds with led
What's your setup?
It's too much to type but I use 3 mars hydro 6500 lights
@@GenXFarmer77 there ya go! I have the 2x2 600 series. Gets the job done 🍻
What is "stacking"? Thanks!
Stacking nutrients in the substrate is achieved through using high frequency irrigation events to build up the optimal level of nutrients for the plant in the stage of growth that you're in. With a raw powder like the Pro Line, the EC needs to be built up specific ranges throughout the plants life. Establishing a good irrigation strategy using moisture content sensors to hit perfect dry backs would be ideal.
@@WeTheGrowersoh never knew this
What is stacking?
I think it means how close the bud sites on the branch, but it could be about how the tricombs are piling up! But I’m no 100% sure!
By stacking they mean higher the EC levels in the solution. What you described is another stacking but mostly called bulking :)
@@50btc56 owe ok thanks a lot!!
Stacking = allowing ec in substrate to rise in a controlled manner during dry backs
So dont flush?
Flushing is for those that over feed.
That's gross man!
@@juniperpansy😂
Where do you get good genetics cus I've tried a million breeders n they all suck
Is it me or does my man look abit like John cena ahah good pod tho boys very knowledgeable
Would anyone have any suggestions on how to cause the late stress recommended if using biobizz organic line?
Organics already does stress plants
@@95Joseyelaborate?
No pain no gain
Chitosan is a good plant stresser, but too much and u can herm your plants
Ok what is 2E and 3E ?
E.C. * = electroconductivity
1 EC = 500ppm
Try rooted leaf nutrients carbon based plants grow insane
Dream Beans seeds are the best
Been wanting to run them on my next round of autos... how they growing for you?
Don't flush? What the f...
I love how these dudes are just now figuring out what I’ve known for two decades.
they are sharing, not like you sitting with your information in your moms basement
You want to increase ypur terps dont burn your plants. Less is more!!!
8 mins to say stress?
As a Nectar grower, I understand that different inputs raise different terpenes. Fish bone meal increases VSCs, hog bone meal increases "herbal" terps, cow bone meal increases all terps in a well-rounded fashion, and feather meal increases fruity terps. Guano can increase a specific terpene, "guanine" I think it's called. It helps to get familiar with a genetic and experiment with different inputs.