The Cyclops isn't really as slow as people think it is. It just feels like its slow because of it's size in relation to it's speed. At flank speed it's roughly the same speed as the Seaglide and at regular speed it's still faster than swimming. You can actually get across the map fairly quickly if you use flank speed and cycle back to regular speed to cool down when it overheats. I admit they could have made flank speed more comparable to the Seamoths speed but it's still a lot faster than the Seatruck with multiple modules in Below Zero.
Nearly all the problems with the cyclops can just be solved without much thought. energy cost too high? Thermal Reactor or power cell charger not maneuverable enough and too big to fit in extremely small spaces? just leave the cyclops for a second to grab whatever you need (or use a DOCKED SEAMOTH) produces too much noise? turn the engine off for a second and the reapers act like you're John Cena costs too much materials? This one is a valid gripe but if you know where to look, you can get all the fragments plus all the resources you need quite quickly BONUS ROUND: seamoth is better because? solar charger? just use the thermal reactor, it does the SAME THING seamoth can have a lot of storage? not if you use basically ANY necessary modules (depth, perimeter defense, mentioned solar charger) Also, the cyclops comes with more built-in storage than the seamoth can get with modules! again, seamoth is more maneuverable and quicker? just dock it. and on top of all that, the cyclops is the only vehicle where you can have a sustainable, movable food source
Fellow Cyclops afficianado here, but no thermal reactor is not the same as the Seamoth's solar charger. The solar charger recharges the Seamoth ANYWHERE on the surface (or at shallow depths). The thermal reactor recharges ONLY in areas above 50°C.
@@oxymoron02 if you build a base with the absolute MASSIVE storage possibility, you can raise a base with solar panel, thermal, bio-reactor (as long as you have any seed and got to a certain island) out of nowhere AND a scan room to power the cyclops. Seamoth need to be on the surface and pratically (important word), can't carry much
For a blind first time run, the Cyclops is essential for the Lost River and Inactive Lava Zone, since you'll be spending quite a long time there probably figuring things out and running out of food and water. So having couple of plants in there as a food source is not a bad thing.
Honestly the thermal reactor is better than the solar charger, there’s so many vents around the map and it doesn’t matter if you’re in a cave or at night.
the cyclops isn't useless. it's fun to drive, its safe from warpers, its useful when you want to move your base, its very useful in the lava zone, its needed to finish the neptune rocket and its cool
I just finished my first playthrough of Subnautica and let me tell you, I absolutely ABUSED the fact the my Cyclops kept me safe from Warpers. Those things terrified me more than the freaking Sea Dragon. I felt like I'd ASCENDED the first time I just cruised past a Warper.
@@sicilyfranklin3157 dealing with those warpers next to the grand reef wrecks(needed the prawn arms) were absolute nightmares, and I had to gather enough courage to get past the 2 warpers at deep grand reef entrance with the seamoth since I didn't want to use the cyclops because of the crabsquids down there
"Ahead slow" "Ahead standard" "Welcome aboard Captain" "You're the best Captain on the planet, I'm not even squidding" "Engine powering up" The amazing engine sound during Ahead slow **woaboaboaboaboa** Great for mining the deep and bringing it all to the Shallows/Islands Good for identifying where leviathans lurk without dying or risking a seamoth Cant complete the game without it Looks great as a sub wreck next to your base Good music Only think I'd change is being able to fit a water filtration and an alien tank and make it charge quicker
All the vehicles in Subnautica serve it's purpose very well. Seamoth is great for fast exploration of shallow waters in early stages of the game. Prawn suit gives you an ability to mine resources and fight leviathans. It's literally a mecha suit adjusted both for fight and cave exploration. And lastly, Cyclops. It's a great portable base with enough space to build anything you wamt inside. Heck, my Cyclops was full of storage lockers to the point I could barely pass through them. It's perfect if you want to venture deeper and further into some biome for longer time. It also gives you safety against smaller predators. Although I must admit that Prawn suit feels much safer in this regard, at least for me. So to sum up - no, it's not useless, it's all to your gamestyle.
beyond me why people hype up the prawn suit so much, it ain t even that tanky, lava lizards hurt me alot, the warper s claws hurt it alot, it can defo be hurt fairly easily
@VladRadu-tw1pg it’s pretty tanky, ghost leviathans do like 9 damage to it. It’s also the fastest vehicle in the game if you have jump upgrade and know how to use the grapple arm properly. Not to mention resource collection.
I dunno man, a moving base with infinite food, water, medkits, power, the ability to skip night at anytime, carry any personal vehicle, all while having over 6,000 slots of storage sounds pretty sick to me...
Man I was ECSTATIC the first time I build the cyclops just for how many wall storage lockers it could fit. Even the moving base part by itself is enough reason for me to build one. As for the energy it requires, it didn't seem that much to me and one could easily bypass this "problem". Just have the materials for a multi-purpose room, a hatch, a bioreactor and a power cell charger at one of the lockers, get out, build your temporary habitat, fully charge and get on with your exploration. EDIT: typos
Personnally, I raise a base out of nowhere, build bio-reactor and two big battery charger. Then leave satisfied to have my 56th base, knowing full well, I had two 600m near me. Shenanigan aside, I ALWAY use bio-reactor to power it, never have I fabricated the thermal upgrade in my +150 hours of gameplay
i finished my play-through without the cyclops and you could imagine my disappointment getting to the last part of neptune and everything coming to a screeching halt bc of needing the fabricator inside the cyclops to make the shield generator lmao! so i always make it early on my playthroughs now even if i dont really use it. it really is about wether you feel comfortable or not in it and where you’re going etc, bc it is handy as a mobile base on the surface. but i wont take it places where i know itll get banged up. So, annoying to use for sure, but not useless- however if youre moving to a new base what i do is literally only take what is required to build a new base- and it is actually easier to make a big room now since it only takes up two slots instead of six. its just a matter of smart packing and not just shoving whatever into your pack.
@@insertedgynamehere___969 oh yea i know about it! thing is it sucks power and the cyclops loses a ton of it already even with the power efficiency module. I’m a frequent player so i know a lot ✨
@@sasukimimochi6626 my guy it takes 3.3% per minute on average speed with an efficiency module. At that point its basically cause you're a shit cyclops driver and thus take too much power, no offence.
@@russianmen-vb3hx never said i was an amazing cyclops driver, but just so you know, everyone has different opinions. thing is, im not out here speed-running the game or trying to do things 100% the best or most efficiently. i’m playing how i consider comfortable, quick, and safe. I really like having the ability to get things off my ship with a little zap! its quick and takes the stress off of traveling through leviathan territory. i was being pretty nice all things considered abt the cyclops. I hope you reflect on that animosity you brought to the table- over a game we all enjoy for fun- and realize its not that serious, and to relax.
It's not useless. It's a prawn suit transporter (do these guys remember how annoying Prawn suit is without jump jet upgrade?), temporary base and moving truck. But it can definitely be pain in the ass to navigate, still better than long distances with only prawn suit in my opinion. Energy cost can be pain in the ass too but it can be medicated with upgrades (heat generator, in later game areas you can actually park it places where it loads by itself, just be careful of your own entrance not being too hot) and building the battery charger.
you missed one more thing. when powered down hostiles will ignore the cyclops and you can do whatever you need to do, re-stock on power cells eat sleep build whatever.
I love my cyclops! I’m putting off building the Neptune rocket because I don’t want to leave my cyclops! As far as power goes, I always carry at least a dozen power cells (good to carry a spare for your prawn suit too), and I built a thermal plant over one of the chimneys near the Tree. Just park there, recharge anything you need to, head on to the Lava Zone.
Get yourself a full set of ion power cells and a thermal power plant, you hardly ever need to return to a seabase. And you can afford to use your defense shield whenever a leviathan hassles you.
I always liked the Cyclopes. I would deck it out with storage bins, edible plants, a bed, a fabricator, battery charger, med kit, radio, and modification station. It essentially served me as a mobile base that I could take into the active lava zone.
@@user-gg9qw2ej1zno it ain t , it was gamechanging for me. to be able to sleep through the night is amazing(untill you get to lr or lava zone and it doesn t matter lol)
First, this video feels a little like ragebait, since it's kind of a call to argue more, but that's just me. I agree with Dirak2012. The first time I played through Subnautica, I avoided using the wiki or UA-cam videos, and the Cyclops was super useful. I didn't know where to find resources, so having a bunch stored up made sense. My girlfriend likes to build lots of pretty bases and not even try to beat the game, she likes the Cyclops. Now I'm on my third playthrough, I'm watching a lot of speedrunning videos, and people have most of the resources and traveling planned out ahead of time, and the Cyclops seems much less useful.
i use cyclops because its immune to warpers whenever i used prawn suit, the warpers snuck up to me and teleported me underneath the prawn suit which leads to an instant death, i can't even trust the prawn anymore as it ended so many of my hardcore saves. I dont even want to know the odds of this happening
@@gregoryl.levitre9759 That's exactly what I do. The second I hear that warping sound, I immediately fire the grappling arm and slingshot my way out of there.
@@gregoryl.levitre9759yes cause it s not like maybe you re near somewhere you need to be and they re there lol, nah just slinghsot your way in buttfuck nowhere, eazy gg
I use the Cyclops as a storage transport mainly, or whenever I need to gather a places materials to expand my bases. With that said, with a grapple arm and jump.boost upgrade, the Prawn is the most mobile of the three vehicles, being able to out speed and out maneuver a seamoth, that is, if you know what you are doing.
For those who don't know : Grapple the ground on a plain surface Let the prawn run to the end of the grapple Jump as you're between 1 to 3 meters away *SPEED* Also maintain height with propulsion. And it need a minimal running distance
no it ain t. the prawn doesn t compare to the seamoth in mobility, and if it does it s because the player is extremely good at using the graple, which most of us don t realy care to invest time in cause it s not realy an esential part of the game at all.
@@VladRadu-tq1pgI find the grapple arm really easy to use, you point it at the ground in front of you, pull towards it, then let go and jump. Figuring out perfect timings to get perfect jumps can take a while, but for the most part, just a half assed jump will do you better in speed and often height than the sea moth, as the Prawn can launch into the air (my personal best above water height I have gotten being about 1/3 the way up the mountain island.) I have also traversed pretty easily in the trench using some slightly more advanced techniques of basically the same method, but up vertical cliffs. As of skill, I would say this exploit is super easy to pick up, as it is not very far from the intended use of the grapple arm, assuming they didn't intend this to be the use of the grapple arm.
@@VladRadu-tq1pg I always kept two grapple arms I traveled through the lava zone swinging from the ceiling like spiderman was super fun and after about 20 min of messing around I got good at it. Seamoth is easier to be moble in but it can't go that deep. Prawn is best below 900 m imo in tight spaces with lots to grab onto. I like to use the seamoth for early game resource acquisition. I fill it up with storage modules fire up my scanner room and go out and bring back everything I can carry. Two or three trips with a scanner room running in the right biome will give you all the resources you will ever need.
The cyclops has many uses, but it is entirely possible to complete 99% of the game without one. An appropriately upgraded PRAWN suit was all I needed, and allowed for tremendous resource gathering that cannot be done any other way.
Power isn't really an issue with the Cyclops once you combine the Energy Efficiency Module, the Thermal Reactor Module and 6 Ion Power Cells. There are more than enough Ion Cubes throughout the world to make 6 power cells and still be able to make all the Alien Tablets you'll need.
The P.R.A.W.N. operated with a tiny bit of skill and a grapple hook can outpace the sea moth. with that and the fact that only the lava zones are deep enough underwater to warrant the use of a P.R.A.W.N. or cyclops there isn't a point to using the prawn. Set up a small base near the mountain island and you can use the teleporters to instantly warp to and from the lava zones in seconds. As for safety the P.R.A.W.N. is better for that too since you can fight off leviathans with its fists. In almost every metric the cyclops is worse than just using the P.R.A.W.N. I litterally never craft it until I need to make the rocket.
i think that the flashlight is useless because u have the little thing (I forgot the name) witch can make u travel quicker and HAS A FLASHLIGHT, but respect for The OtherGilbert becaue i think he searched hours finding the materlials for the video
the cyclops is a giant leviathan punching bag. without a shield generator, you have to either shut down completely and hope the reapers leave you alone, or gun it to evade sea dragons and ghost levis. you can silent run it, but that eats your power like crazy. the prawn suit and hte sea moth dont have these problems, they can simply get away (assuming you have the grappling hook. if not, then start punchin)
I actually made 50 % of the game in prawn without a cyclops because I couldn't find the lastbpieces to complete the blueprints and when I did, I already had bases all over the map including the river and the lava zone. I only built it after I was cured
I use it as a mobile base, put some potted lantern fruit in there for food, a fabricator and some lockers. The Lava pits are filled with resources and the endgame goes so much we quicker if you park the Cyclops down there with the thermal power upgrade and use it to build whatever you need.
In my opinion, almost every item can be considered useless in Subnautica if your only criteria is if it's needed to complete the game. But what those items/vehicles are actually for is to aid you in exploration, to push you to go deeper more easily. You don't need the Seamoth to complete the game, but it's remarkably useful in exploration as it helps explore a bigger area for a bigger amount of time. Some items may not be used often and don't aid to complete the game but that's not the point! The main focus of the game is to explore, to go beyond, to what lies int he depths of the unknown. Completion is just a result of exploring. About the Cyclops... I didn't use it in my first playthrough and I still completed the game. Yet during my second game I decided to use it and it managed to show me the whole world of 4546b in a completely different way, I almost felt like exploration (represented by the Cyclops) was home. To manage to go further and further while still having the challenges of maintaining the Cyclops. I don't think it's worth discussing item's usefulness... Subnautica isn't about what is the most useful, it's about surviving and exploring an alien world. And in such situation every bit of aid is remarkably useful, more than you would think. More than you would've ever imagined.
The cyclops is slow and large and loud. You mentioned these. But 'large' has two problems with it. First, it makes it hard to actually get it through the tighter spaces in the game, and there are a few choke points where navigating with this monster vehicle is a problem. Entering the Lost River (especially via the Bloodkelp Trench, which is probably the best way in as you can entirely avoid all the Ghost leviathans going that way). Entering the Inactive Lava zone. Going from the Inactive Lava zone to the Lava Zone. Each one of these is a real pain with a vehicle that large. The _second_ problem is the Lava Leeches. The only other vehicle you can have down there is the Prawn suit, so we get to compare clearing off Lava Leeches from a Prawn suit versus a Cyclops. ... It is much, _much_ harder on the Cyclops. There's _so much_ area involved that you have to swim around to try and _find_ those little buggers. It's easy to miss one. And then you just watch your batteries drain away. It's near impossible to miss a Lava Leech being attached to your Prawn suit. The Cyclops can be damaged and destroyed. You may think this applies to the Prawn suit, too, and it does, _but_ if you're going with just the Prawn suit, your best bet is to make multiple bases all the way down. One at the entrance to the Lost River, one near the Ghost Tree, one in the Inactive Lava zone, one just before the Lava zone, maybe one by the Alien Containment structure. With such an array of bases, each powered by a thermal plant and containing, at minimum, a grow-bed (adding power chargers and fabricator helps, but that's a lot of extra material to drag down there or find down there), means that you are never, ever, _ever_ too far down to get out alive, which is useful for hardcore runs. The 'mobile base' of the Cyclops can be attacked and damaged by leviathans and Lava Lizards, the static bases can't. If, for whatever reason, your Cyclops breaks while you're in the lower areas, it's quite likely that you'll simply drown before you can get to air. The Cyclops has much lower visibility than the Prawn suit. You can't see up _or_ down as well from the Cyclops, and the amount of time it takes to get into and out of the thing makes it prohibitive to 'go out and take a look', slowing everything down. I honestly don't find the 'power regeneration' for the Seamoth to be a compelling argument for it. First, it only applies if you're near the surface, it's _useless_ once you get to the later portions, and depths, of the game, and _there_ both the Cyclops and Prawn suit have the ability to recharge with heat, which is easy enough to find. Overall, the Cyclops is not _exactly_ useless, but I personally _hate_ the thing. I quit out of hardcore run where I was testing it to see if I could get into using it, because its size and sluggish movement, and _especially_ those Lava Leeches, were just _so_ much of a pain in the butt that I couldn't be bothered finishing the game with it. ... I think I'm gonna go see if I can find a mod that'll let me build the Shield without having to build a Cyclops at all. Right now, I _only_ build it to make the Shield. Otherwise I'd never bother. Have a nice day!
@@Excalibur-Sonic Glad it worked. :) Still the way I tend to go. _But..._ recently got mods letting me use the Seamoth to 1900m, and use the Prawn arms with it, and already had a storage mod. _So..._ when I can get to it, I plan to do a run where I just use the Seamoth, and once I start down I don't come back up until I'm done, meaning I need to drag a base, food, and water with me, and rely on speed to avoid danger. On hardcore mode, of course.
I had the exact same experience. Just recently quit a hardcore no-habitats run that got down to the lava zone, as I just got so fed up using the Cyclops. I am obsessed with fluid and responsive movement in any game I play. Every form of movement in Subnautica fits that, except for the Cyclops. In theory I thought I would enjoy all it's luxuries, but the painful experience that is driving it was so unfun I just canned the whole run.
You can use the shield generator on the Cyclops to instantly knock off all the leeches at once. It will drain some power but not as much as the leeches will.
All those problems are solved by either a part of the base cyclops or a module (besides the trench but its not even that bad to go down) Also the cyclops is amazing for stealth due to the silent running and just powering down making you invisible to all creatures pretty much. The sheild gen beats the lava larvas, camera fix visibility and are built in with 0 downsides to be used. It can carry a prawn in it so if its about to be destroyed, you won't drown unless you are an idiot. I think you just have an incurable disease known as SKILL ISSUE.
I'm a big fan of the Cylops for many reasons. First of all, I love having access to a bed, melon crops, and a fabricator anywhere on the planet. As for storage, sure the Seamoth can have 4 tiny storage modules, but I usually put 8 large chests in the Seamoth. Add a Prawn suit and, instead of mining for particular items, I can basically go strip mining and turn 10 trips with a Seamoth into one trip with the Cyclops. As for the complaint that it costs too much, that kind of proves the value of the Cyclops. It only seems to cost so much because it would take mining for materials with a Seamoth a lot longer than it would if you had a Cyclops already. I didn't get the energy cost complaint either. By the time I'm building a Cyclops I typically have a chest full of unused spare batteries. So I typically carry spare power cells. Add a power cell charger at my base, or park above a volcano while mining, and I never have issues with power. I like all the stuff you can get in Subnautica. It's the reason it's one of the best games in its genre.
You are forgetting what is perhapse the cyclops’ biggest strong point: warpers cannot teleport you out of it. this makes some crucial areas of the map easier to bypass or explore.
The cyclops is my favourite vehicle out of any game I've played, not for the utility, but for the fact that it feels like a real vehicle, not a game vehicle. The handling isn't 'point mouse and press W'.
The Cyclops is basically like a camping tent. It is PERFECT if you wish to temporarily stay somewhere for an expended period of time, mostly for when you're exploring big biomes that go in deeper, and you have a lot to explore, while your stationary base may be far away, the Cyclops allows you to charge your other vehicles and bring a lot of resources. So if you plan on spending a lot of time exploring a large biome that goes VERY deep, bring that big fella with you!
Used it once is was disappointed. They should had made the camera in 3rd person because it is too big to drive blindly. The cameras help but is just a task
Wait, do people actually have a hard time fitting the cyclops through tight spaces? I've gone through the game 10+ times and not once gotten it stuck on anything
use the cyclops as a behemoth resource storage and the prawn as its resource miner and you would effectively have enough resources to start a company equivalent to alterra
Imo, cyclops is not fun for me. I attempted multiple times but always ended up using the full tuned prawn suit. I understand why people love it, it’s a big ass submarine and totally cool, but it isn’t my cup of tea.
It's a great vehicle, but it is *not* a "super Seamoth". It is not meant to be used as a scouting vehicle in unexplored or dangerous areas. It's also not a total replacement for one or more bases, as it can't do resource scanning or power generation (at least without the thermal reactor module). But it really shines as a moving van and support vehicle.
You can use a thermal reactor to charge the cyclops near heat and you can build power cell chargers to charge the power cells themselves so I don’t see it actually being useless. Also it’s fun to drive.
The thing is... useless items are useless only because the standard mode isn't punishing enough : "What if I encounter a warper ? Ho, I'll hit him with my knife and escape ! A reaper ? I'll just kite with my seamoth. Worst case scenario, I'll fail and loose a bunch of ressources." But when you go hardcore mode, you won't kite in the crater's edge with your seaglide anymore. You'll need backup plans for your backup plans. You'll need each and every tool at hand at any time, just in case, and outposts at every corner of the map just in case your ride is destroyed and you can't make it to the surface in time
The Cyclops only takes damage from Leviathans (or running into things), and it's fun to have a fully functional mobile base. It's only useless when you need mobility, as it has none.
Yea, I've been recently making use of all the alien arches. So, I only used the cyclops to transport materials. I deconstructed a base to relocate, and had over 50 lockers of stuff.
personally, i dont use cyclops much mainly because i dont want to get it destroyed, but cost of resources isnt that big if you arent lazy, plus if you got powercell charger then you basically have infinite power
If they would add the ability to apply upgrades to it so it could self-charge its batteries on solar or something then it would be fine. I can work around the other stuff but the crap power cell system is killing it for me
my first playthrough, i was scared to go anywhere without my cyclops. and i had my base at the lifepod essentially. id drive the thing from the PCF all the way to the safe shallows, a few times just to avoid warpers then, i did a mostly cyclops-less playthrough to get over my fear of warpers and i mean, nowadays i think warpers are honestly kinda cute n silly, they're just innocent respectable things doing their jobs! when i realized they dont even attack if you're cured, i was like awwww so that combined with my cyclopsless playthrough made me kinda not really fear them anymore and yeah i dont really see it as super necessary but the MOVING STORAGE is such a huge nice part. that and being able to grow food in it... like yeah, it can be hard to move, and thats the downside, but. its good
The only thing i dont like about the cyclops is that sometimes depending on the biome its cumbersome to piolet, plus the sea moth can only go to 900 meters wear the cyclops and prawn can do 1700 which is already better. People just nitpick and find reasons to complain for no reason just enjoy the damn submarine
@@sasquatchferus8107 Full tunned prawn suit*. Normal prawn suit is uselles but once you start tunning it - its best vehicle. Tunned prawn suit can climb and walls, move faster than seamoth, carry many items, be good for fighting and many else. Just carry some of upgrades in inventory( they take only 1 slot ). After i got prawn i never used seamoth. I used cyclops only for getting its shield to complete game.
Having just finished subnautica, i honestly could not work out why i would want to use it. Unless you are planning to build bases everywhere in which case its going to be a real time saver when moving materials. But two bases was enough for me anyway. The Prawn suit is just much better suited to the later areas of the game.
The cyclops it's good for going very deep cus of the crush depths pluss you can put a prawn suit inside so if you do need to get into tight spaces you can easily do in the prawn suit
Just use prawn suit. It faster than seamoth. Can go very deep. Its very hard to break. Good for fighting. Can mine resources. Can keep you safe from leviathans. "B-but warpers!" Just use stasis + knife on them and they will run away.
Actually useless items (imo) -Repulsion cannon (propulsion is way better and more useful) (And if you need an actual weapon, use the knife+stasis) -Torpedo launcher, seamoth or prawn. (Torpedoes miss more than half the time and doesn't deal a lot of damage, just ram a creature and repair or use a drill arm) -still suit (At the time I find it, I usually already have marblemelons, bulbo trees, or the water filter machine for all my liquid needs, plus I need the reinforced suit way more) -Recharging fins (Ultra glide fins are way better, and at the point you find it, diving by hand is a rare occasion, AND if you do dive a lot by hand, the ultra glide is a light year ahead) The last 2 would be super useful if the blueprints were found in early stage areas like seaglide fragments or seamoth, but you can still use them... Mostly, but torpedoes are still trash. AND THE TOP 1 TRULLY USELESS ITEM: microscope (non functional) Honorable mentions to any decorative item for base building plus coffee and vending machine, I love them both either way.
I wouldn't say it's useless per se, but it is unnecessary, you can get around just fine with a prawn with a grapple through the whole map, apart from the void obviously.
I’m just starting to use my cyclops. I’m using it to transport materials to make my different outposts. I love my seamoth. But when it comes to bulk transportation, the cyclops is king. And although I’ve only used it a short time, I’m hoping 3 sets of power cells will be enough. 😂😂😂
You are wrong about needing the Cyclops to get the prawn to the depths. I usually play the whole game with just the moth and prawn. Literally only building the cyclops for that one mandatory fabricator item. Really, once you get the prawn there's no need for anything else The key is that you can swap the prawn arms from anywhere, just is free water. So equipping a prawn with two hooks lets you move extremely rapidly across the map, then get to your destination, swap to a drill or whatever else you need, and
......Since when has the Cyclops been useless? If anything, it's the most useful craft in Subnautica. I mean, unless I use mods to get something better than it. One of the comments shown in 0:09 claims that the cyclops runs out of power.... Do they not know that upgrades exist for it? It's been a while since I played this game, but I remember using a solar charger when I'm on the surface, and a thermal charger to use in the Lost River and the Lava Zones. Have never seen what the Cyclops looked like when it's out of power.
my playthrough would've definitely gone cyclops-free if the seamoth was allowed access to those depths. I build as I need and other than that there really wasn't a need. Plus managing fuel cells for the Sub was so annoying. But in a way fun too.
I really wish the seamoth could be upgraded to go into lava zone. It's easily the most pragmatic and convenient vehicle to drive. though I have to say grapple-boost jumping with the prawn suit is the most fun way to travel.
Well... it made me excited for a bit then I realized I really don't need it. I finished the game not using the cyclops at all. Only the seamoth and prawn suit.
Posts like that aren't a surprise. The cyclops is the most complicated vehicle in the game. I can see some players just not getting the hang of it and not even bothering with it.
@@Mykolai_Vasylyovych Dude not everyone has played through the game 100 times lmao. A new player isn't going to know where to go in the last three zones and either need to build more bases there or use the cyclops as a mobile base to support the prawn suit.
i lost my cyclops in the most dumb way possible. I left it in the lavazone when finishing the game so after when i came back for it i though ok lets spend 10 mins to get it out. Seaea dragon said nope and glitch flung itself at like 300kph and instantly broke it into unrepairble stage.
The cyclops is incredibly good because its a mobile base so you can only build bases for growing kelp and charging power cells(once you have 4 spare power cells power becomes not much of an issue) you cant use cyclops without engine efficiency module at all though
Dude yhr cyclops is the best vehicle, once you havr it you dont need a base except for a scanner room and charging station. Also materials are easy to get snd uou have sll the time in the world to obtain them. Just build 3 sets of power cells. And a couple charging bases you shoild never need more cells than ,18. Pretty much once I have the cyclops and prawn drill and grapple arm. I tear down my initial base and move to the tree cove or central chamber of lost river. Intear
The cyclops is one of the most enjoyable and immersive parts of the entire game, I do not think subnautica would feel the same at all without it. Hence BZ. Most of people's issues with the cyclops are simply due to the fact that they aren't using it properly. It's half way between a base and a vehicle, it has incredible versatility.
I can admit that the cyclops is a slow vehicle but I personally just love the role play vibe of piloting a massive submarine
The Cyclops isn't really as slow as people think it is. It just feels like its slow because of it's size in relation to it's speed. At flank speed it's roughly the same speed as the Seaglide and at regular speed it's still faster than swimming. You can actually get across the map fairly quickly if you use flank speed and cycle back to regular speed to cool down when it overheats. I admit they could have made flank speed more comparable to the Seamoths speed but it's still a lot faster than the Seatruck with multiple modules in Below Zero.
Nearly all the problems with the cyclops can just be solved without much thought.
energy cost too high? Thermal Reactor or power cell charger
not maneuverable enough and too big to fit in extremely small spaces? just leave the cyclops for a second to grab whatever you need (or use a DOCKED SEAMOTH)
produces too much noise? turn the engine off for a second and the reapers act like you're John Cena
costs too much materials? This one is a valid gripe but if you know where to look, you can get all the fragments plus all the resources you need quite quickly
BONUS ROUND: seamoth is better because?
solar charger? just use the thermal reactor, it does the SAME THING
seamoth can have a lot of storage? not if you use basically ANY necessary modules (depth, perimeter defense, mentioned solar charger) Also, the cyclops comes with more built-in storage than the seamoth can get with modules!
again, seamoth is more maneuverable and quicker? just dock it.
and on top of all that, the cyclops is the only vehicle where you can have a sustainable, movable food source
Fellow Cyclops afficianado here, but no thermal reactor is not the same as the Seamoth's solar charger.
The solar charger recharges the Seamoth ANYWHERE on the surface (or at shallow depths). The thermal reactor recharges ONLY in areas above 50°C.
@@oxymoron02 if you build a base with the absolute MASSIVE storage possibility, you can raise a base with solar panel, thermal, bio-reactor (as long as you have any seed and got to a certain island) out of nowhere AND a scan room to power the cyclops.
Seamoth need to be on the surface and pratically (important word), can't carry much
For a blind first time run, the Cyclops is essential for the Lost River and Inactive Lava Zone, since you'll be spending quite a long time there probably figuring things out and running out of food and water. So having couple of plants in there as a food source is not a bad thing.
Exactly
Honestly the thermal reactor is better than the solar charger, there’s so many vents around the map and it doesn’t matter if you’re in a cave or at night.
the cyclops isn't useless. it's fun to drive, its safe from warpers, its useful when you want to move your base, its very useful in the lava zone, its needed to finish the neptune rocket and its cool
I just finished my first playthrough of Subnautica and let me tell you, I absolutely ABUSED the fact the my Cyclops kept me safe from Warpers. Those things terrified me more than the freaking Sea Dragon. I felt like I'd ASCENDED the first time I just cruised past a Warper.
@@sicilyfranklin3157 dealing with those warpers next to the grand reef wrecks(needed the prawn arms) were absolute nightmares, and I had to gather enough courage to get past the 2 warpers at deep grand reef entrance with the seamoth since I didn't want to use the cyclops because of the crabsquids down there
I'm had cyclops only for burning his engine BC music
@@sicilyfranklin3157Ong, I was in the blood kelp zone and I had to abandon my prawn suit for it
It's not necessary. The prawn suit properly utilized can get you anywhere
The meaning of USELESS is having or being of no use. It has a use.
Sure, but it's not worth the resources required to build it. There is nothing it does that can't be done better by something else.
Bro it took me 7 minutes to craft cyclops what u saying about time
Or resources
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@@gregoryl.levitre9759Sustainable, mobile food source.
"Ahead slow"
"Ahead standard"
"Welcome aboard Captain"
"You're the best Captain on the planet, I'm not even squidding"
"Engine powering up"
The amazing engine sound during Ahead slow **woaboaboaboaboa**
Great for mining the deep and bringing it all to the Shallows/Islands
Good for identifying where leviathans lurk without dying or risking a seamoth
Cant complete the game without it
Looks great as a sub wreck next to your base
Good music
Only think I'd change is being able to fit a water filtration and an alien tank and make it charge quicker
All the vehicles in Subnautica serve it's purpose very well.
Seamoth is great for fast exploration of shallow waters in early stages of the game.
Prawn suit gives you an ability to mine resources and fight leviathans. It's literally a mecha suit adjusted both for fight and cave exploration.
And lastly, Cyclops. It's a great portable base with enough space to build anything you wamt inside. Heck, my Cyclops was full of storage lockers to the point I could barely pass through them. It's perfect if you want to venture deeper and further into some biome for longer time. It also gives you safety against smaller predators. Although I must admit that Prawn suit feels much safer in this regard, at least for me.
So to sum up - no, it's not useless, it's all to your gamestyle.
beyond me why people hype up the prawn suit so much, it ain t even that tanky, lava lizards hurt me alot, the warper s claws hurt it alot, it can defo be hurt fairly easily
@VladRadu-tw1pg it’s pretty tanky, ghost leviathans do like 9 damage to it. It’s also the fastest vehicle in the game if you have jump upgrade and know how to use the grapple arm properly. Not to mention resource collection.
I dunno man, a moving base with infinite food, water, medkits, power, the ability to skip night at anytime, carry any personal vehicle, all while having over 6,000 slots of storage sounds pretty sick to me...
Man I was ECSTATIC the first time I build the cyclops just for how many wall storage lockers it could fit. Even the moving base part by itself is enough reason for me to build one.
As for the energy it requires, it didn't seem that much to me and one could easily bypass this "problem". Just have the materials for a multi-purpose room, a hatch, a bioreactor and a power cell charger at one of the lockers, get out, build your temporary habitat, fully charge and get on with your exploration.
EDIT: typos
Does anyone else use the thermal reactor and just park the cyclops on a thermal vent before exiting it?
Personnally, I raise a base out of nowhere, build bio-reactor and two big battery charger.
Then leave satisfied to have my 56th base, knowing full well, I had two 600m near me.
Shenanigan aside, I ALWAY use bio-reactor to power it, never have I fabricated the thermal upgrade in my +150 hours of gameplay
i have 2 lockers i set aside for an instant nuclear reactor to recharge
All the time
i finished my play-through without the cyclops and you could imagine my disappointment getting to the last part of neptune and everything coming to a screeching halt bc of needing the fabricator inside the cyclops to make the shield generator lmao! so i always make it early on my playthroughs now even if i dont really use it. it really is about wether you feel comfortable or not in it and where you’re going etc, bc it is handy as a mobile base on the surface. but i wont take it places where i know itll get banged up. So, annoying to use for sure, but not useless- however if youre moving to a new base what i do is literally only take what is required to build a new base- and it is actually easier to make a big room now since it only takes up two slots instead of six. its just a matter of smart packing and not just shoving whatever into your pack.
this is why i like the seatruck in below zero tho haha a good mix of the two
I believe there's a cyclops shield generator in the Degassi base.
The one in the blue balled biome, where their story concludes
@@insertedgynamehere___969 oh yea i know about it! thing is it sucks power and the cyclops loses a ton of it already even with the power efficiency module. I’m a frequent player so i know a lot ✨
@@sasukimimochi6626 my guy it takes 3.3% per minute on average speed with an efficiency module. At that point its basically cause you're a shit cyclops driver and thus take too much power, no offence.
@@russianmen-vb3hx never said i was an amazing cyclops driver, but just so you know, everyone has different opinions. thing is, im not out here speed-running the game or trying to do things 100% the best or most efficiently. i’m playing how i consider comfortable, quick, and safe. I really like having the ability to get things off my ship with a little zap! its quick and takes the stress off of traveling through leviathan territory. i was being pretty nice all things considered abt the cyclops. I hope you reflect on that animosity you brought to the table- over a game we all enjoy for fun- and realize its not that serious, and to relax.
It's not useless. It's a prawn suit transporter (do these guys remember how annoying Prawn suit is without jump jet upgrade?), temporary base and moving truck. But it can definitely be pain in the ass to navigate, still better than long distances with only prawn suit in my opinion. Energy cost can be pain in the ass too but it can be medicated with upgrades (heat generator, in later game areas you can actually park it places where it loads by itself, just be careful of your own entrance not being too hot) and building the battery charger.
you missed one more thing. when powered down hostiles will ignore the cyclops and you can do whatever you need to do, re-stock on power cells eat sleep build whatever.
I love my cyclops! I’m putting off building the Neptune rocket because I don’t want to leave my cyclops!
As far as power goes, I always carry at least a dozen power cells (good to carry a spare for your prawn suit too), and I built a thermal plant over one of the chimneys near the Tree. Just park there, recharge anything you need to, head on to the Lava Zone.
Get yourself a full set of ion power cells and a thermal power plant, you hardly ever need to return to a seabase. And you can afford to use your defense shield whenever a leviathan hassles you.
I always liked the Cyclopes. I would deck it out with storage bins, edible plants, a bed, a fabricator, battery charger, med kit, radio, and modification station. It essentially served me as a mobile base that I could take into the active lava zone.
Let's be honest : the bed is useless
Yes, I also build a bed
Right?
@@user-gg9qw2ej1zno it ain t , it was gamechanging for me. to be able to sleep through the night is amazing(untill you get to lr or lava zone and it doesn t matter lol)
@@user-gg9qw2ej1zThe bed is useful in the early to mid game because you can skip the night when your base only has solar panels
First, this video feels a little like ragebait, since it's kind of a call to argue more, but that's just me.
I agree with Dirak2012. The first time I played through Subnautica, I avoided using the wiki or UA-cam videos, and the Cyclops was super useful. I didn't know where to find resources, so having a bunch stored up made sense.
My girlfriend likes to build lots of pretty bases and not even try to beat the game, she likes the Cyclops.
Now I'm on my third playthrough, I'm watching a lot of speedrunning videos, and people have most of the resources and traveling planned out ahead of time, and the Cyclops seems much less useful.
i use cyclops because its immune to warpers
whenever i used prawn suit, the warpers snuck up to me and teleported me underneath the prawn suit which leads to an instant death, i can't even trust the prawn anymore as it ended so many of my hardcore saves. I dont even want to know the odds of this happening
I never have problems with Warpers. Just keep moving when you hear them. Cakework.
@@gregoryl.levitre9759 That's exactly what I do. The second I hear that warping sound, I immediately fire the grappling arm and slingshot my way out of there.
@@gregoryl.levitre9759yes cause it s not like maybe you re near somewhere you need to be and they re there lol, nah just slinghsot your way in buttfuck nowhere, eazy gg
@@cmudd9788 doesnt work properly since the games very and i mean VERY buggy.
Cyclop ain't useless it give you the best music ever
I use the Cyclops as a storage transport mainly, or whenever I need to gather a places materials to expand my bases. With that said, with a grapple arm and jump.boost upgrade, the Prawn is the most mobile of the three vehicles, being able to out speed and out maneuver a seamoth, that is, if you know what you are doing.
For those who don't know :
Grapple the ground on a plain surface
Let the prawn run to the end of the grapple
Jump as you're between 1 to 3 meters away
*SPEED*
Also maintain height with propulsion.
And it need a minimal running distance
no it ain t. the prawn doesn t compare to the seamoth in mobility, and if it does it s because the player is extremely good at using the graple, which most of us don t realy care to invest time in cause it s not realy an esential part of the game at all.
@@VladRadu-tq1pgI find the grapple arm really easy to use, you point it at the ground in front of you, pull towards it, then let go and jump. Figuring out perfect timings to get perfect jumps can take a while, but for the most part, just a half assed jump will do you better in speed and often height than the sea moth, as the Prawn can launch into the air (my personal best above water height I have gotten being about 1/3 the way up the mountain island.)
I have also traversed pretty easily in the trench using some slightly more advanced techniques of basically the same method, but up vertical cliffs.
As of skill, I would say this exploit is super easy to pick up, as it is not very far from the intended use of the grapple arm, assuming they didn't intend this to be the use of the grapple arm.
@@VladRadu-tq1pg
I always kept two grapple arms I traveled through the lava zone swinging from the ceiling like spiderman was super fun and after about 20 min of messing around I got good at it.
Seamoth is easier to be moble in but it can't go that deep. Prawn is best below 900 m imo in tight spaces with lots to grab onto.
I like to use the seamoth for early game resource acquisition. I fill it up with storage modules fire up my scanner room and go out and bring back everything I can carry. Two or three trips with a scanner room running in the right biome will give you all the resources you will ever need.
But, but, but ... the cyclops is so much fun to travel!!!
The cyclops has many uses, but it is entirely possible to complete 99% of the game without one. An appropriately upgraded PRAWN suit was all I needed, and allowed for tremendous resource gathering that cannot be done any other way.
Power isn't really an issue with the Cyclops once you combine the Energy Efficiency Module, the Thermal Reactor Module and 6 Ion Power Cells. There are more than enough Ion Cubes throughout the world to make 6 power cells and still be able to make all the Alien Tablets you'll need.
The P.R.A.W.N. operated with a tiny bit of skill and a grapple hook can outpace the sea moth. with that and the fact that only the lava zones are deep enough underwater to warrant the use of a P.R.A.W.N. or cyclops there isn't a point to using the prawn. Set up a small base near the mountain island and you can use the teleporters to instantly warp to and from the lava zones in seconds. As for safety the P.R.A.W.N. is better for that too since you can fight off leviathans with its fists.
In almost every metric the cyclops is worse than just using the P.R.A.W.N. I litterally never craft it until I need to make the rocket.
Finally, someone said it
i think that the flashlight is useless because u have the little thing (I forgot the name) witch can make u travel quicker and HAS A FLASHLIGHT, but respect for The OtherGilbert becaue i think he searched hours finding the materlials for the video
that little thing is called a seaglide and its light is terrible. I rather have a flashlight than that blue weak-ass light
@@MixGaming25 at least is something
I agree, it's not worth the inventory and hot bar space when the Seaglide has one, only I assume 20% dimmer and narrower.
It's called seaglide
@@lilaShiie bro... i posted this comment 8 months ago
the cyclops is a giant leviathan punching bag. without a shield generator, you have to either shut down completely and hope the reapers leave you alone, or gun it to evade sea dragons and ghost levis. you can silent run it, but that eats your power like crazy. the prawn suit and hte sea moth dont have these problems, they can simply get away (assuming you have the grappling hook. if not, then start punchin)
I actually made 50 % of the game in prawn without a cyclops because I couldn't find the lastbpieces to complete the blueprints and when I did, I already had bases all over the map including the river and the lava zone. I only built it after I was cured
imo ive never used cyclops other than for the rocket ngl. never really liked using it honestly
I drove the cyclops all the way down to the sea empress... shocked the sea dragon and he left me alone.
I use it as a mobile base, put some potted lantern fruit in there for food, a fabricator and some lockers. The Lava pits are filled with resources and the endgame goes so much we quicker if you park the Cyclops down there with the thermal power upgrade and use it to build whatever you need.
The Cyclops is a mobile source of food and hydration if you have a grow bed inside. That alone makes it incredibly useful.
In my opinion, almost every item can be considered useless in Subnautica if your only criteria is if it's needed to complete the game. But what those items/vehicles are actually for is to aid you in exploration, to push you to go deeper more easily. You don't need the Seamoth to complete the game, but it's remarkably useful in exploration as it helps explore a bigger area for a bigger amount of time.
Some items may not be used often and don't aid to complete the game but that's not the point! The main focus of the game is to explore, to go beyond, to what lies int he depths of the unknown. Completion is just a result of exploring.
About the Cyclops... I didn't use it in my first playthrough and I still completed the game. Yet during my second game I decided to use it and it managed to show me the whole world of 4546b in a completely different way, I almost felt like exploration (represented by the Cyclops) was home. To manage to go further and further while still having the challenges of maintaining the Cyclops.
I don't think it's worth discussing item's usefulness...
Subnautica isn't about what is the most useful, it's about surviving and exploring an alien world. And in such situation every bit of aid is remarkably useful, more than you would think. More than you would've ever imagined.
THIS EXACTLY competitive gaming and speedrunning has rotted the brains of some people i swear T0T
Its not hard to power the cyclops, when the engine is off you don't get attacked, its only use is for material transportation
The cyclops is slow and large and loud. You mentioned these. But 'large' has two problems with it. First, it makes it hard to actually get it through the tighter spaces in the game, and there are a few choke points where navigating with this monster vehicle is a problem. Entering the Lost River (especially via the Bloodkelp Trench, which is probably the best way in as you can entirely avoid all the Ghost leviathans going that way). Entering the Inactive Lava zone. Going from the Inactive Lava zone to the Lava Zone. Each one of these is a real pain with a vehicle that large. The _second_ problem is the Lava Leeches. The only other vehicle you can have down there is the Prawn suit, so we get to compare clearing off Lava Leeches from a Prawn suit versus a Cyclops. ... It is much, _much_ harder on the Cyclops. There's _so much_ area involved that you have to swim around to try and _find_ those little buggers. It's easy to miss one. And then you just watch your batteries drain away. It's near impossible to miss a Lava Leech being attached to your Prawn suit.
The Cyclops can be damaged and destroyed. You may think this applies to the Prawn suit, too, and it does, _but_ if you're going with just the Prawn suit, your best bet is to make multiple bases all the way down. One at the entrance to the Lost River, one near the Ghost Tree, one in the Inactive Lava zone, one just before the Lava zone, maybe one by the Alien Containment structure. With such an array of bases, each powered by a thermal plant and containing, at minimum, a grow-bed (adding power chargers and fabricator helps, but that's a lot of extra material to drag down there or find down there), means that you are never, ever, _ever_ too far down to get out alive, which is useful for hardcore runs. The 'mobile base' of the Cyclops can be attacked and damaged by leviathans and Lava Lizards, the static bases can't. If, for whatever reason, your Cyclops breaks while you're in the lower areas, it's quite likely that you'll simply drown before you can get to air.
The Cyclops has much lower visibility than the Prawn suit. You can't see up _or_ down as well from the Cyclops, and the amount of time it takes to get into and out of the thing makes it prohibitive to 'go out and take a look', slowing everything down.
I honestly don't find the 'power regeneration' for the Seamoth to be a compelling argument for it. First, it only applies if you're near the surface, it's _useless_ once you get to the later portions, and depths, of the game, and _there_ both the Cyclops and Prawn suit have the ability to recharge with heat, which is easy enough to find.
Overall, the Cyclops is not _exactly_ useless, but I personally _hate_ the thing. I quit out of hardcore run where I was testing it to see if I could get into using it, because its size and sluggish movement, and _especially_ those Lava Leeches, were just _so_ much of a pain in the butt that I couldn't be bothered finishing the game with it. ... I think I'm gonna go see if I can find a mod that'll let me build the Shield without having to build a Cyclops at all. Right now, I _only_ build it to make the Shield. Otherwise I'd never bother.
Have a nice day!
I just did the bases thing myself. Had one at the end of the tree grove and lava zone powered by a thermal plant. Really worked out for me.
@@Excalibur-Sonic
Glad it worked. :) Still the way I tend to go. _But..._ recently got mods letting me use the Seamoth to 1900m, and use the Prawn arms with it, and already had a storage mod. _So..._ when I can get to it, I plan to do a run where I just use the Seamoth, and once I start down I don't come back up until I'm done, meaning I need to drag a base, food, and water with me, and rely on speed to avoid danger. On hardcore mode, of course.
I had the exact same experience. Just recently quit a hardcore no-habitats run that got down to the lava zone, as I just got so fed up using the Cyclops. I am obsessed with fluid and responsive movement in any game I play. Every form of movement in Subnautica fits that, except for the Cyclops. In theory I thought I would enjoy all it's luxuries, but the painful experience that is driving it was so unfun I just canned the whole run.
You can use the shield generator on the Cyclops to instantly knock off all the leeches at once. It will drain some power but not as much as the leeches will.
All those problems are solved by either a part of the base cyclops or a module (besides the trench but its not even that bad to go down)
Also the cyclops is amazing for stealth due to the silent running and just powering down making you invisible to all creatures pretty much.
The sheild gen beats the lava larvas, camera fix visibility and are built in with 0 downsides to be used. It can carry a prawn in it so if its about to be destroyed, you won't drown unless you are an idiot.
I think you just have an incurable disease known as SKILL ISSUE.
I'm a big fan of the Cylops for many reasons. First of all, I love having access to a bed, melon crops, and a fabricator anywhere on the planet. As for storage, sure the Seamoth can have 4 tiny storage modules, but I usually put 8 large chests in the Seamoth. Add a Prawn suit and, instead of mining for particular items, I can basically go strip mining and turn 10 trips with a Seamoth into one trip with the Cyclops. As for the complaint that it costs too much, that kind of proves the value of the Cyclops. It only seems to cost so much because it would take mining for materials with a Seamoth a lot longer than it would if you had a Cyclops already. I didn't get the energy cost complaint either. By the time I'm building a Cyclops I typically have a chest full of unused spare batteries. So I typically carry spare power cells. Add a power cell charger at my base, or park above a volcano while mining, and I never have issues with power. I like all the stuff you can get in Subnautica. It's the reason it's one of the best games in its genre.
You are forgetting what is perhapse the cyclops’ biggest strong point: warpers cannot teleport you out of it. this makes some crucial areas of the map easier to bypass or explore.
The cyclops is my favourite vehicle out of any game I've played, not for the utility, but for the fact that it feels like a real vehicle, not a game vehicle. The handling isn't 'point mouse and press W'.
Also don't forget, you HAVE to build the cyclops if you want to finish the game, because you have to craft a cyclops shield generator.
The Cyclops is basically like a camping tent.
It is PERFECT if you wish to temporarily stay somewhere for an expended period of time, mostly for when you're exploring big biomes that go in deeper, and you have a lot to explore, while your stationary base may be far away, the Cyclops allows you to charge your other vehicles and bring a lot of resources. So if you plan on spending a lot of time exploring a large biome that goes VERY deep, bring that big fella with you!
It’s also good for bringing materials to set up a new permanent base.
Used it once is was disappointed. They should had made the camera in 3rd person because it is too big to drive blindly. The cameras help but is just a task
The only “useful” part about the cyclops is that you need the shield generator thing for the ending.
Wait, do people actually have a hard time fitting the cyclops through tight spaces? I've gone through the game 10+ times and not once gotten it stuck on anything
use the cyclops as a behemoth resource storage and the prawn as its resource miner and you would effectively have enough resources to start a company equivalent to alterra
I was literally flabbergasted when I saw you only had around 300 subscribers. You deserve way more.
I genuinely old made it to get the shield generator
Imo, cyclops is not fun for me. I attempted multiple times but always ended up using the full tuned prawn suit. I understand why people love it, it’s a big ass submarine and totally cool, but it isn’t my cup of tea.
Full tunned prawn suit is BANGER. Just need to carry some of arms in inventory.
Cyclops is cool and it was fun to build but it's useless when you have the prawn suit and sea moth.
It's fun to have a portable base. Other than that, it's great for transporting the prawn suit, and you need it for the lost river.
No you don’t. JUST USE PRAWN SUIT! Grappling arm makes you faster than seamoth. ItS BETTER just use PRAWN SUIIT
@@Mykolai_Vasylyovych But then where do I put the massive hoard of materials I'm hoarding?
@@trucid2 In base.
Make a base in the tree cove area in the lost river. It’s literally the best place for a base in the game.
@@ineverrage4176 nuh uh
First and foremost the cyclops is a Prawn suit transportation device. I use it to transport my prawn suit when going out to gather resources
It's a great vehicle, but it is *not* a "super Seamoth". It is not meant to be used as a scouting vehicle in unexplored or dangerous areas. It's also not a total replacement for one or more bases, as it can't do resource scanning or power generation (at least without the thermal reactor module). But it really shines as a moving van and support vehicle.
You can use a thermal reactor to charge the cyclops near heat and you can build power cell chargers to charge the power cells themselves so I don’t see it actually being useless. Also it’s fun to drive.
The thing is... useless items are useless only because the standard mode isn't punishing enough :
"What if I encounter a warper ? Ho, I'll hit him with my knife and escape ! A reaper ? I'll just kite with my seamoth. Worst case scenario, I'll fail and loose a bunch of ressources."
But when you go hardcore mode, you won't kite in the crater's edge with your seaglide anymore. You'll need backup plans for your backup plans. You'll need each and every tool at hand at any time, just in case, and outposts at every corner of the map just in case your ride is destroyed and you can't make it to the surface in time
I did not expect a spoiler in this video, lol
But you need it for the rocket
The Cyclops only takes damage from Leviathans (or running into things), and it's fun to have a fully functional mobile base. It's only useless when you need mobility, as it has none.
In my play through I had a few small support stations and all my other stuff was in the cyclops so I don’t think it’s useless
Yea, I've been recently making use of all the alien arches. So, I only used the cyclops to transport materials. I deconstructed a base to relocate, and had over 50 lockers of stuff.
Blud cooked and burnt his hole house
personally, i dont use cyclops much mainly because i dont want to get it destroyed, but cost of resources isnt that big if you arent lazy, plus if you got powercell charger then you basically have infinite power
If they would add the ability to apply upgrades to it so it could self-charge its batteries on solar or something then it would be fine. I can work around the other stuff but the crap power cell system is killing it for me
my first playthrough, i was scared to go anywhere without my cyclops. and i had my base at the lifepod essentially. id drive the thing from the PCF all the way to the safe shallows, a few times
just to avoid warpers
then, i did a mostly cyclops-less playthrough to get over my fear of warpers
and i mean, nowadays i think warpers are honestly kinda cute n silly, they're just innocent respectable things doing their jobs! when i realized they dont even attack if you're cured, i was like awwww
so that combined with my cyclopsless playthrough made me kinda not really fear them anymore
and yeah i dont really see it as super necessary but the MOVING STORAGE is such a huge nice part. that and being able to grow food in it...
like yeah, it can be hard to move, and thats the downside, but. its good
The only thing i dont like about the cyclops is that sometimes depending on the biome its cumbersome to piolet, plus the sea moth can only go to 900 meters wear the cyclops and prawn can do 1700 which is already better. People just nitpick and find reasons to complain for no reason just enjoy the damn submarine
I use it to have a waypoint of food between far locations.
I found engine efficiency in the Aurora
The Cyclops was a really amazing Submarine to drive around, even ever since early accsess. I dont give a F$$$.😂
Agreed, it is the most fun to drive and is the only vehicle that can without glitches reach the bottom/lower teleport barrier of the void!
It helped me not be scared of leviathans and it’s my home away of home and the prawn suit is a pain to move around in
Prawn suit is fastest and safest vehicle in game, bro💀. 2 grappling arms and youre faster than seamoth.
@@Mykolai_Vasylyovych...Until you fall into dead zone without climbing arm😂
@@sasquatchferus8107 Full tunned prawn suit*. Normal prawn suit is uselles but once you start tunning it - its best vehicle. Tunned prawn suit can climb and walls, move faster than seamoth, carry many items, be good for fighting and many else. Just carry some of upgrades in inventory( they take only 1 slot ). After i got prawn i never used seamoth. I used cyclops only for getting its shield to complete game.
*someone says a fact*
"But that was just an opinion"
Having just finished subnautica, i honestly could not work out why i would want to use it. Unless you are planning to build bases everywhere in which case its going to be a real time saver when moving materials. But two bases was enough for me anyway. The Prawn suit is just much better suited to the later areas of the game.
Wish I had more time in the game with it and got to go deeper with it. It's the RV home away from home
0:43 I disagree. I actually want a bigger submarine.
You literally need it to beat the game
How are people complaining about power? When you have the cyclops you usually already have power cell chargers.
The cyclops it's good for going very deep cus of the crush depths pluss you can put a prawn suit inside so if you do need to get into tight spaces you can easily do in the prawn suit
Just make full tunned prawn suit. Congrats! Now you dont need cyclops or seamoth.
"the cyclops Is useless" sounds like skill-issue
Just use prawn suit. It faster than seamoth. Can go very deep. Its very hard to break. Good for fighting. Can mine resources. Can keep you safe from leviathans. "B-but warpers!" Just use stasis + knife on them and they will run away.
Actually useless items (imo)
-Repulsion cannon
(propulsion is way better and more useful)
(And if you need an actual weapon, use the knife+stasis)
-Torpedo launcher, seamoth or prawn.
(Torpedoes miss more than half the time and doesn't deal a lot of damage, just ram a creature and repair or use a drill arm)
-still suit
(At the time I find it, I usually already have marblemelons, bulbo trees, or the water filter machine for all my liquid needs, plus I need the reinforced suit way more)
-Recharging fins
(Ultra glide fins are way better, and at the point you find it, diving by hand is a rare occasion, AND if you do dive a lot by hand, the ultra glide is a light year ahead)
The last 2 would be super useful if the blueprints were found in early stage areas like seaglide fragments or seamoth, but you can still use them...
Mostly, but torpedoes are still trash.
AND THE TOP 1 TRULLY USELESS ITEM: microscope (non functional)
Honorable mentions to any decorative item for base building plus coffee and vending machine, I love them both either way.
Repulsion cannon is funny though, yeeting biters never gets old.
I wouldn't say it's useless per se, but it is unnecessary, you can get around just fine with a prawn with a grapple through the whole map, apart from the void obviously.
In my opinion the cyclops is useful because I can have enough titanium with the storage to expand my base to all the biomes
2:17 what he said: “PRAWN Suit”
The captions: “p*rn suit”
Useless or not, It's cool
Prawn suit >>>>
I’m just starting to use my cyclops. I’m using it to transport materials to make my different outposts. I love my seamoth. But when it comes to bulk transportation, the cyclops is king. And although I’ve only used it a short time, I’m hoping 3 sets of power cells will be enough. 😂😂😂
Need the cyclops for roleplay purposes. What good colonizer doesn’t have a capital ship?
The Cyclops is better for building and exploring, but it's not that good for if you just want to do things fast.
The cyclops is very important. It is needed to build the neptune rocket!!
The cyclops= BANGER MUSIC
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Too bad they are unlocked in the final hour of the game.
It is the best vehicle in my opinion. It allows me to stay away from the base longer.
You are wrong about needing the Cyclops to get the prawn to the depths. I usually play the whole game with just the moth and prawn. Literally only building the cyclops for that one mandatory fabricator item. Really, once you get the prawn there's no need for anything else
The key is that you can swap the prawn arms from anywhere, just is free water. So equipping a prawn with two hooks lets you move extremely rapidly across the map, then get to your destination, swap to a drill or whatever else you need, and
......Since when has the Cyclops been useless? If anything, it's the most useful craft in Subnautica. I mean, unless I use mods to get something better than it.
One of the comments shown in 0:09 claims that the cyclops runs out of power.... Do they not know that upgrades exist for it? It's been a while since I played this game, but I remember using a solar charger when I'm on the surface, and a thermal charger to use in the Lost River and the Lava Zones. Have never seen what the Cyclops looked like when it's out of power.
And the cyclops gets stuck so easy
I always thought that's cyclops is useless after i 100% the game i have changed my mind
my playthrough would've definitely gone cyclops-free if the seamoth was allowed access to those depths. I build as I need and other than that there really wasn't a need. Plus managing fuel cells for the Sub was so annoying. But in a way fun too.
I really wish the seamoth could be upgraded to go into lava zone. It's easily the most pragmatic and convenient vehicle to drive. though I have to say grapple-boost jumping with the prawn suit is the most fun way to travel.
@@Vizarucarry 1 grappling arm in inventory so you can replace other arm. Now its fastest vehicle if you know how grapller works.
Well... it made me excited for a bit then I realized I really don't need it. I finished the game not using the cyclops at all. Only the seamoth and prawn suit.
Posts like that aren't a surprise. The cyclops is the most complicated vehicle in the game. I can see some players just not getting the hang of it and not even bothering with it.
Easily completed game without cyclops, but needed shield generator.
@@Mykolai_Vasylyovych Dude not everyone has played through the game 100 times lmao. A new player isn't going to know where to go in the last three zones and either need to build more bases there or use the cyclops as a mobile base to support the prawn suit.
i lost my cyclops in the most dumb way possible. I left it in the lavazone when finishing the game so after when i came back for it i though ok lets spend 10 mins to get it out. Seaea dragon said nope and glitch flung itself at like 300kph and instantly broke it into unrepairble stage.
Warpers don't warp you out of the Cyclops. ;)
You can just attack them first.
trying to escape a levaiathan with the cyclop it's stupid, just turn off the engine and after a bit it will stop attacking you
The cyclops is incredibly good because its a mobile base so you can only build bases for growing kelp and charging power cells(once you have 4 spare power cells power becomes not much of an issue)
you cant use cyclops without engine efficiency module at all though
The cycl#ps is trash that I took away all the power cells from it and with [1] power cell I made the shield for the rocket
But I live in my cyclops
Dude yhr cyclops is the best vehicle, once you havr it you dont need a base except for a scanner room and charging station.
Also materials are easy to get snd uou have sll the time in the world to obtain them.
Just build 3 sets of power cells. And a couple charging bases you shoild never need more cells than ,18.
Pretty much once I have the cyclops and prawn drill and grapple arm. I tear down my initial base and move to the tree cove or central chamber of lost river.
Intear
the song is abandon ship by simon chilinsky good vid though
The cyclops is one of the most enjoyable and immersive parts of the entire game, I do not think subnautica would feel the same at all without it. Hence BZ. Most of people's issues with the cyclops are simply due to the fact that they aren't using it properly. It's half way between a base and a vehicle, it has incredible versatility.
You can have moblie fabricator
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