Hasan Piker and Digital Misogynoir
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- This is my first UA-cam video in 10 years! I'd love your feedback on how to improve.
Music - Original by Me (Lucretia McEvil)
Footage - Hasan Piker, Democracy Now, #MichaelBrooks, #TimWise, Al Jazeera, bell hooks, Kimberle Crenshaw, Community, Eric Andre Show and found footage from TikTok. If you were featured and would like credit, let me know!
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DISCLAIMER:
I want to make it clear that this is not an attack on #HasanPiker, nor is it an attempt to blindly defend him. As someone who has been a fan of Hasan since his time at #TYT, I have a certain level of admiration for him. However, as a black femme, I also feel the need to speak out about some of the problematic behavior I've noticed in his content over the years.
Despite my admiration for Hasan, I can't help but notice that he seems to lack perspective when it comes to issues affecting black women. As a black non-binary femme myself, I've noticed a pattern of misogynistic jokes and comments that are often based on appearance, perceived intelligence and perceived aggression. It's disappointing to see someone who is supposed to represent #leftist values falling into the same traps as those on the far right.
I understand that there is a shortage of decent leftist voices in the media, especially when compared to the likes of Andrew Tate and Sneako.
However, being a leftist does not give anyone a free pass to engage in harmful behavior. As an activist and someone who is on the autism spectrum, I can recognize patterns and I believe it's important to hold Hasan accountable for his actions.
I still enjoy watching Hasan's content and will continue to support him, but it's important to acknowledge his flaws and work towards creating a more inclusive and equitable community.
This is really helpful. You are really clear and nuanced about your perspective and critiques.
Speaking as a white straight male, I do have really intense emotional reactions to criticisms like this. I did have one to this video initially. It took me a while to breathe through. It was the same reaction I had after listening to another black woman give a presentation on racism before I had really woken up to some of the basics of the awful reality of this country. For any white people having these intense emotional reactions, I would say that deep breathing and slowing down and listening are really important. For me I find the fact that I am having the reaction is evidence I need to learn something.
Lastly I did want to share some of my perspectives in the hopes of furthering the dialogue. What I want to share is that it is genuinely really difficult to wake up to realizing that you are part of a group that has used it's disproportionate power to oppress and exploit others. It can be really challenging to your self identity when caring for others/ being a good person (whatever that means to you) is important to you. When you grew up thinking things like "Martin Luther King Jr. solved racism" to realize that you believing that lie supports very real and potent racist systemic problems today. It's really challenging for anyone to try to understand a different perspective, and as Lucretia points out we are all imperfect and we all cause harm, and we all need to improve.
I think among the main points that I heard in this video is that white people who want to help need to be more responsible for our emotional reactions to criticism and not let it get in the way of receiving feedback. I do believe that people like Lucretia want to see us succeed as allies and their criticism/feedback will help us with that. I believe that while I am not responsible for causing the tremendous evils of systematized racism and other bigotry (and the tainted benefits I receive from them) that my ancestors left me, I am responsible to work at improving myself, educating myself, listening and allying in order to help improve the situation and support marginalized people and groups.
Spot on and thank you for sharing! ❤️🖤💚
Bruh, same. Believing that you are a good person, while simultaneously benefiting from systems that act to oppress others...it can feel pretty frustrating even when you know it's not about you. Acknowledging those feelings suck could be a way allies can assist each other to foster empathy.
Also white male leftist here to explicitly tell you that your voice and this video was invaluable for me in a journey of self reflection that has been going on for a while. The genesis of a lot of leftist ideals comes from a place of wanting fairness, egalitarianism, and making sure every person on planet earth is not bound by a class and has their needs taking care of. In that service it seemed incredibly morally hypocritical to care so much about taking down capitalism and the inequity it creates while also not tackling patriarchy and racism because my same core moral values are essentially the same. Everyone being treated fairly, undoing injustice, equity, etc. It lead me to self reflection and examination. I constantly need work on deprograming my internalized racism, anti blackness, and to a lesser extent misogyny, although the racism is a far bigger blind spot for me. It requires humility, internal monitoring of thoughts that are articulated in my head, and even viceral more "ID" type reactions of my emotions that I know are being rattled by my racism. I also spend a lot of time on UA-cam so I've been proactively tailoring my subscriptions to what I need to hear and blind spots I have in my thinking. Sorry the comment got rambled a lot. Critiques of Hasan are very hard to guage in his chat because a lot of them are trolls trying to derail the stream and ultimately leftist goals and I do feel bad for Hasan personally in that sense. Your take helps improve the environment and pushes things towards where they truly should be.
I appreciate your vulnerability! Sharing it really matters, other white male leftists in your position will see it and ultimately have a better time absorbing what I’m saying - despite us being on the left the perception gap still exists and effects us all. I appreciate you doing the work.
You said this so much more eloquently than I ever could.
This is a really good and important video. Far too many people think there is this binary of you either "are racist" or "aren't" and dont understand the nuance that you can still perpetuate harmful behaviors even if you think you are above it. We need to learn to be open to being self critical & be willing to change when confronted with our biases
I like Hassan but find that he is so certain of his takes sometimes in a way that makes him unlikeable. I bet that in like 10 years, if he listens, he’s going to be in an amazing place.
I really hope he listens too. I truly am a fan!
Ye, on a Yacht with billions. He is a great socialist
I've noticed that non-Black people are a lot harsher in their responses to Black women all over social media. It is a pervasive issue on the internet. When Black women respond in kind it comes off as angry, but that's just matching the energy they came with.
Yes you nailed it. If people assume you’re an evil rotted person before you open your mouth, they’re gonna treat you that way accordingly. Then when you respond to their vitriol - they claim victim based on their bias they came with initially.
You are so grounded in reality in such a refreshing way. Full of integrity, nuance, and self reflection. Very punx
LISTEN -- this is needed to be spoken about! Thank you
there was a stream highlight uploaded to hasan’s main channel where, at one point, he made a joke about the rich leaving the poor alone and dater*ping women in their own social class.
i had to rewind the vid to make sure i heard it right and even read the chat when he said it and people were calling him out about it but he didn’t address it ((at least not in the clip)).
i still watch hasan and enjoy his content but this was a huge wake up moment. even the guy who helped radicalized me is, at the end of the day, still a white man and will say things that are problematic without thinking about it.
thank you for this video!! i have been taking a more critical, objective look at the “allies” in my life and this video helped me not feel crazy :’) love your work!
bruh watching this video brought up so much pent up anger and frustration. Thanks, im subscribed and will watch your other stuff!
I heard no lies and thank you for speaking up and that video you share at the end was so heartwarming and it's something I hope I will not forget about myself as a black women ❤
I’m so appreciative that you watched and resonated 💜
More of this, please. Thank you 🙏🏾
I love all the nuance in this ! thank you
This was amazing, always looking to hear from more perspectives and improve how I receive/view criticism, and I really value your channel. Looking forward to whatever ya make next
Also the cut at 6:40 blew my ears out lol
Thanks for the compliment and sorry for hurting your ears! It was my very first video so I had no idea about how to mix lmao I’m learning slowly! 😭🖤
I usually have a snap reaction to criticism. Not just on the internet, but in real life as well. Usually, i look in myself to try and learn from experiences where I'm called on my bs and better myself. Not perfect, but trying. Love the vid! Great content!
I really appreciate you having patience with yourself and with my video and listening to learn. It’s hard for us all but you’re doing the work 💖
ur analysis is sharp 🎯
Thank you 🙏🏾 😁
I see critique as a mirror that others hold up to me. That mirror may be distorted or dirty, but if I get hung up on the condition of the mirror and miss the image it is showing me, I also miss an opportunity for correction and improvement.
I appreciate your comment but I challenge you to question what you mean by “dirty or distorted” especially when speaking about black women critiquing your activism as a white male leftist. That may be your perception gap creeping in again 😅
Subscribed within the first 5 minutes of this video. This is definitely a widespread issue on the left and our favourite himbo is not immune. I also give Hasan my Amazon Prime sub because i feel he is genuine in his intentions and would like to see him work past his biases however, prefer youtube for my leftist content consumption. Maybe i just haven't spent enough time on twitch to have more diverse streamers recommended to me 🤷🏽♀️
Twitch is hard to get new content to you, UA-cams algorithm really just unmatched and makes it easier to find smaller creators you may align with.
thanks so much for this vid🙏🏾🙏🏾 it’s a shame how much digging i had to do to find it in the first place! much love
I appreciate you so much for watching 🖤glad you found me
found ur channel i think through fd signifier's, thanks sm for this video and i'm looking forward to delving into your other work
🖤🤎🩷🧡💛🩵💜💙💖🤍 Beautifully expressed. Thank you.
Thank you for watching 🖤🖤🖤
Bump for algo, but also thank you a very nuanced and empathetic take.
Thank you so much 🖤🫡
I love your videos and look forward to seeing more from you.
Thank you! 🙏🏾✨
Blind Spot? Guy is Mr Magoo of Epistemology
This made me laugh so hard lmao
@@lucretia_macevil :)
preach!
I dont listen to Hassan ( not in a bad way) just only so much time in the day. However I have seen this on the left. It's ok to have bland spots, its not ok to berate the people that point them out. Really well done, I look forward to more of your content
thanks for watching! I tried to be balanced haha :)
why is this video so good?!
Thanks so much 😭🖤hope he actually sees this one day lmao
I was a fan a Hasan before i heard more of his views about minorities that he thinks he understands. I tuned out a long time ago.
I completely understand why, I go through breaks myself. He can be too obtuse sometimes, and often too arrogant to step back and see that he made a mistake. It's frustrating with that big of a platform, because people see his words as gospel.
I just found ykur channel, came to this video after finishing the on on Palestine and I have to reiterate that you have gained a subscriber.
I am a huge Hassn fan and he has had a big influence in my ideological move yo the left. I still found this video very nuanced and very clear of the criticism is laying out. I really hope you continue gaining success on yhe platform so we can continue to get more great content like this from you
you are SO awesome
Thank you! You are awesome too 😊
Great Video
Thank you!
daaang + to think i was following him for the grand total of three weeks.
u saved me from a lifetime of strife 🙏🏽😄👅
on a srs note tho, i respect u so much for bringing the video forward, as i am new to the usa leftist youtube space (i'm british) + wanna land in the places my identities are cherished. ❤❤❤
I appreciate you watching! He’s still a great resource and a great content creator, but just definitely be aware that his community as well as other white males in the breadtube/leftist space are biased like every other white male still, yet they think they are not because they’ve done some unpacking.
Cornbreadtube, has more intersectionality🖤
@@lucretia_macevil u r so welcome! ya, i got some valuable knowledge on palestine from him.... tho i am sensitive to energies online + i definitely felt hurt in my body from the exclusionary element he has.
i'd just challenge one ☝🏽 part tho in saying he is a white male, as both his parents are turkish. i say that bc while he may be able to assimilate to a degree into usa whiteness, in europe, say germany 🇩🇪 or austria 🇦🇹 or britain 🇬🇧, there's no way his family would be seen as white, and folx are regularly subjected to discrimination.
i personally would say he's brown but pale enough to assimilate as a "hot mediterranean" as opposed to the harnful barriers put on darker brown people from muslim countries who don't have quite so much passing-privilege.
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🥰
Actually good criticism of hasan. Gread video!
Thanks for your comment 🖤
Do you still watch Hassan? Ive been enamored by his content for a few years now. Thank you for this video. You exposed a great opportunity for me as a potential future streamer.
I do! I feel like he’s a great creator. I hope he one day sees this, low key 😂yes- definitely stream! You can do it
boost for the algo ❤ great vid
Thank you! 🙏🏾💖
Well said
Thank you 🙏🏾
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Had no idea about the Jax situation. Are we still waiting on that collaboration??? 🤔🤔🤔
I believe we are still waiting 😂😁
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I’m watching all ur videos love u fellow black fem here😝🫂🫶🏾
glad you're here with me
As someone watching Hasan's UA-cam clips pretty regularly over the past few months (but not his Twitch streams), I was curious about this topic but I'm not really convinced by the arguments presented here. I think it would have been really helpful to present actual clips of Hasan or other leftists making problematic statements. I'm not saying the conclusions are wrong, but I think it could have been more persuasive. I'm left genuinely not knowing what Hasan is saying to warrant this criticism. :S
I mentioned several scenarios in the video, you’d have to go searching for them - I couldn’t play full segments of everything because of UA-cam.
Appreciate your comment, but unfortunately, misogynoir isn’t an argument or criticism that can be decided by non-black femmes.
You can search:
Hasan Nicki minaj
Hasan Jax
Hasan black women
And have any of these supposed issues answered for you, if you were being actually genuine in wanting to find out what the issue is. People who don’t want to understand, choose not to.
That isn’t up to me. I can’t comprehend it for you.
You lost me at Nicki Minaj
1) This video is a year old
2) multiple things can be true at once
the fact that so many people assume every black femme is a barb just for pointing out nuance is exactly why i brought it up.
This
Check out this video next:
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is hasan piker white?
Yes, he's Turkish but he's white.
I’ve been tryna bridge the gap in representation for us but now I’m actively seeking a community and actively being the change I wanna see making my own Afro centric art I had to research up before dabbling in Afro surrealism after LOOOOVVVVING ATLANTA I’m so happy ur channel popped up on my feed which I feel like is rare the universe just needed us to cross paths I can’t wait to see what u r up to in the future much loveeee😝🫶🏾🫶🏾
this is such a tender comment to read! I am so glad we have been connected through the algorithm too. thanks for being here :)
That ENDING!!!! 😙👌💛💚💙🤍 Thank you for the vid cause as much as I like to think the community is open, it's good to have a reminder on hand. Thank you and please be safe❤❤
🥰✨same to you! Thanks for watching