I can't imagine holding to 4k on the revs, I set my limit at 6k usually riding in the 4-5.5k range, working on the theory of not lugging the engine and not holding any rev range for too long. I did the same with my Interceptor without any issues. Just love the Guerilla, it's a real blast to ride!😂
Yeah it was a bit of a struggle hiding below 4k and not allowing the engine to lug. You’re right the Guerrilla really is great fun to ride, I absolutely love it. 😀 cheers for watching and leaving a comment 👍🏻😀
Good evening Dave. Massive thanks for the mention. I am at 199 miles now, so getting there, but envious of you 😉😂. I do admit that I have sneaked over the 4K revs quite a few times, but more importantly, I haven’t let it lug. Working through the gears is the best thing for running in. I don’t know about the Guerrilla having charm, it’s a bloody hooligan 😂 Nice ride 👍
You’re welcome Ian. Tip for you and others; I dropped the bike of with 305 miles in the clock and the mechanic took it out prior to servicing it and added another 5 miles bringing it to 310. I took it out yesterday morning for a ride over to a cafe near Stratford on Avon. When I came out and started it up I had the service overdue warning on the screen. I realised what had happened i.e. the service indication had not been reset, fortunately I was passing the dealers on my way home so it was a quick fix. Basically the lesson learned is, the service miles threshold has to be reached or exceeded (311 miles) in this case to enable the indication to be reset. A charming hooliganism it most definitely is! Cheers Ian 😀👍🏻
@@MerciaMotoI am expecting to be slightly beyond 311 miles by the time I can get to the dealer. Already booked in for Friday the 18th of October. We are at Barmouth from Sunday 13th till Thursday 17th. Cheers
@@ianhughesroyalenfield 👍🏻 excellent! Sadly it looks like our diaries won’t align again we head over to Barmouth on Friday evenings after work and head home on Sunday Lunchtimes. Hope the weather is kind to you both when you’re over 👍🏻
Thank you for this. Your comments about the bike with the bonus of Walton Hill. A regular spot for kite flying and picnics as a child. I later explored the lanes on my Honda C50 Cub whilst I was at “the Lodge”.
Thanks David, yeah Clent and Walton Hill were was somewhere I visited a lot as a child and teenager. By “the Lodge” are you referring to Holly Lodge? 👍🏻😀
@@MerciaMoto Yes it is. Was there 1966-73. So an OAP now 🤣🤣. I was in the last intake before amalgamation with JW Tech. Do you attend the annual dinner?
Nice video, looking forward to seeing you and Gus out on your travels again. Hope you get out on the Hunter, I nearly bought a Hunter, but when I had a ride on the Guerrilla, I've decided to order one, looking forward to getting out on it when it arrives. Enjoy the party 🍻👍
Cheers Malcolm, plans are afoot for Pocket Rocket the Hunter to be out on Wednesday evening, watch this space 😀 I can’t see me ever parting with my Hunter but if I could only have one Royal Enfield, it would have to be the Guerrilla, it’s such an exceptional bike! 👍🏻
The engine sounds really good and really lively, I bet it'll become your favourite 👍 I miss bike shops that fronted onto pavements and have all the bikes out the front
It’s does have a glorious engine sound doesn’t it? Ah old style motorcycle shops and dealers, there was something special about them and QB’s still has it. There was a motorcycle shop in Carters Green West Bromwich called Perry’s. That place was magical, if you needed parts for your bike, this was early 1989’s’ you could go in, and the owner would disappear up the stares, you’d hear him rifling around and a few minutes later he’d appear back down the stairs with the part in his hand. I would loved to have seen what it looked like up in that stores. He always had what I needed in store, amazing! Cheers Glyn
Nice one Dave. Enjoying your Guerrilla videos, they are of great interest to me for "reasons" 😜 I reckon 6000 rpm should be plenty to really start to appreciate the performance this bike has. Basically, now, you just have to avoid revving it out and you no longer have to worry about it lugging. I would probably run mine in by ear, just like I had to do with the Classic and the Meteor. I will probably end up not exceeding 5000 rpm in the first 300 miles ( 5k should be ok and make it easier to avoid the lugging ) and then after that, avoid revving it too hard until I get the RE "give it the berries" green light ( at which point it will get a proper spanking ) ! Call me weird but I do enjoy the sounds this bike makes. I was always a sucker for a subtle gear driven cam whistle and it also provides a bit of induction roar and a bit of a bellow out of the exhaust. I will be interested to see how it can sound with an aftermarket silencer at some point although I do find the OEM system to be characterful enough really. As far as I can tell, your fan doesn't come on every time you are stopped in traffic, or does it ? I had that on my latest test ride and it wasn't a hot day, just 22C. Made me think that the demo bike might have been low on coolant. Does your fan come on at every opportunity ? Enjoy Dave ! I'm still ruminating over here in Spain 🤔 Cheers, Garry & Ruby
Hi Garry and Ruby, thanks for for watching the videos, I hope I’m tempting you over to the Guerrilla club albeit a none garish ponsey coloured version! 😜 Yeah, I think 6K revs is its sweet spot. I’ve not been out on it for a few weeks with current work commitments and miserable weather, my CCM and Speed Twin have already entered hibernation and The Guerrilla and Hunter will probably be joining em this weekend. Running in by ear seems like a sensible strategy, it’s a very different animal to run in than either the Scram or Hunter was, and it did have me a little conflicted at times with how to approach it. But what a bike, can’t wait for spring, this may well be my Wales bike for next year 🤔 cheers 👍🏻😀 P.S the fan did kick in quite often. Something for me to think about and monitor when I’m next out on it. 👍🏻
@@MerciaMoto Hi Dave. I did wonder whether it would end up in Wales, since it directly replaced the Scram which was stationed there. You would probably have better access to more brilliant roads with the bike parked there, 'tis true. Thanks for the update on the fan. Phil ( see the comments to my Cloudy No Meatballs video, where I posed the question ) says that he has never heard his fan come on, so there seems to be some inconsistency there. Check the coolant level if you can Dave. Maybe some bikes get delivered with less coolant than others (?). I don't recall it happening on the Himmy 450 I tried and that was during much warmer weather, so I don't imagine that the fan should be coming on all that often at this time of year. Definitely something to keep an eye on and if I end up getting one I will keep people updated on the situation. I had A LOT of heat coming off the engine when stood at the lights, almost burning my right leg until I moved it further away from the bike. So I think the fan was probably justified in coming on, the engine certainly seemed to be running pretty darn hot ! At least the Tripper Dash has a temperature readout in the menu somewhere. Not sure how you can tell what's going on with the analogue versions. Probably just a red idiot light that goes on when it's already too late 😂 Cheers Mr Dave, Garry & Ruby
Hello, thanks for watching and leaving a comment 🙏🏼 They are great bikes, I don’t think you’d regret buying one. The tyres are very good in my opinion, I didn’t experience any issues with them when i was riding in the wet 👍🏻😀
Hi Robert, I’m afraid I haven’t. There are two settings on the TFT screen, if it is set to dark mode it’s maintained, however it it is set to light mode it darkens as the ambient light decreases.
@@MerciaMoto There seems to be two types of screen available, one that has colour & one that is black & white. From the videos the black & white one seems to be harder to see at angles. Normally, as this works by altering polarity, Polaroid lenses tend to end up only seeing a black screen. Anyway, I guess I will need try this out at a dealer. Thanks.
Good morning Dave. Yes wet days and to add to the pleasure the school run. So Rob has moved to Royal Enfield. I'm very confused about what's happening with the import and backup now. Moto GB still seem to selling their stock but if you order a new RE will it come direct from RE India... Sorry just breakfast coffee musing here 😂. Pleased to hear that Pocket Rocket is still giving you something Gus doesn't. You're quite clearly besotted with Gus. ❤️. As I write this you're most likely trying to clear a hangover from the birthday party 😂😂. Oh and why is Rob known as the Baron of Halesowen? Pleased you got a nice run post service. I think (just my opinion - others may think otherwise 😂) -that motorcycles reflect personality. Yes that's one nippy bike and light too at 184 kilo. They'll sell like the proverbial 💛
Hello Peter, yeah great news about Rob ordering a Guerrilla, hopefully he will have it in his possession soon. We suspect the running in will be challenging for Rob as he does like to let rip on his bikes, he likes to channel his inner Valentino Rossi when he rides his bikes 😂😂 My love for Pocket Rocket has not been diminished and shall remain my forever bike. He’s coming out again soon! Can you actually believe that I feel I’m neglecting my bikes when I’m not riding them. I imagine this is how a man with a religion that allows multiple wives must feel! 😂😂😂 Lord Joseph (Joe) the Barron of Halesowen is the elder of our group of miscreants, the one who challenges our, at times, childish behaviour 😂😂😀 Also the owner of two enormous 8 foot high stone Lions that flank the driveway to Fowler Towers, a sight most splendid for folks driving past and a metaphor for the lion amongst men who’s fortress they guard! 😂😂😂👍🏻
@ianhughesroyalenfield Not yet, but i will do. It's just that i thought when you thanked the people for arranging the ride on the Guerrilla that it was for the loan of the bike.
@@alanthelonerangerthat’s just me trying to keep a lid on it until the end…….sneaky I know, but everyone seems to do their reveals at the start of a video…..I like to mix things up a bit 😂
I've got a 650 Continental and considering one of these. I've seen the numbers on the spec sheet but if you're familiar with the 650 how does this compare engine performance wise in real road conditions?
I've ridden both the 650 Continental GT and the 650 Interceptor and from memory I would say my Guerilla is a bit quicker through the gears and about the same top end. The main thing that put me off the GT and the Interceptor was the weight factor. The Guerilla is so much more agile and nimble to move around. You would need to have a good road test on one to make your own judgement but don't be surprised if you're blown away with it on performance, handling, comfort and the all important bit, value for money. They really are a cracking bike.🙂👍
@@jonathandeeley6276 Thanks. I like the torque of the 650. I find mine effortless at low to medium revs but that weight certainly tells. I'll test ride the Guerrilla and hope that torquey feeling is still there due to lighter weight compensating for 200cc less.
I have been fortunate in that I had owned an Interceptor for 3 years, and done demo rides on the newer Interceptor, the Shot Gun, and the Super Meteor. As Jonathan said, the liquid cooled 450, is freer revving, definitely getting through the gears quicker. You can definitely feel the weight difference. I used to chuck my Interceptor around through the twisties, but the Guerrilla is so much easier…..more nimble, and an absolute hoot ! With me doing ride vids, I do get tempted, but non tempted me enough to buy one, until a I rode the Guerrilla 😉
It’s interesting you should ask that question, I was out for a ride yesterday and I was telling the guys about the similarity in torque and response to the Interceptor I owned previously and the other commenters, Jonathan and Ian have a similar take. It is probably due to the power to weight ratio and as the guys say the freer revving liquid cooled 450 is a major factor 👍🏻
Hello, thanks for leaving a comment. The Guerrilla really does tick so many boxes. Would be great around town as a commuter bike being light and easy to handle, good for touring although I wouldn’t want to do any significant motorway riding on it, and I think some light off road trail riding could be done easily on this bike. Hope that answers your question? 👍🏻😀
Good morning William, thanks for watching and leaving a comment. 😀 I hear a lot of perspectives regarding the dielectric grease causing problems and as an electrical engineer, for me this is not an issue. The quality of the relays is the most probable cause of problems that folks have had. The moisture ingress and corrosion that would occur due to the absence of dielectric grease would be more of a concern. Fortunately the problem seems to have resolved and should it return I will be delving into the potential causes. Really appreciate you watching an leaving a suggestion, always good to receive ideas and feedback. Cheers 👍🏻😀
I can't imagine holding to 4k on the revs, I set my limit at 6k usually riding in the 4-5.5k range, working on the theory of not lugging the engine and not holding any rev range for too long. I did the same with my Interceptor without any issues. Just love the Guerilla, it's a real blast to ride!😂
Yeah it was a bit of a struggle hiding below 4k and not allowing the engine to lug. You’re right the Guerrilla really is great fun to ride, I absolutely love it. 😀 cheers for watching and leaving a comment 👍🏻😀
Good evening Dave. Massive thanks for the mention. I am at 199 miles now, so getting there, but envious of you 😉😂. I do admit that I have sneaked over the 4K revs quite a few times, but more importantly, I haven’t let it lug. Working through the gears is the best thing for running in. I don’t know about the Guerrilla having charm, it’s a bloody hooligan 😂 Nice ride 👍
You’re welcome Ian. Tip for you and others; I dropped the bike of with 305 miles in the clock and the mechanic took it out prior to servicing it and added another 5 miles bringing it to 310. I took it out yesterday morning for a ride over to a cafe near Stratford on Avon. When I came out and started it up I had the service overdue warning on the screen. I realised what had happened i.e. the service indication had not been reset, fortunately I was passing the dealers on my way home so it was a quick fix. Basically the lesson learned is, the service miles threshold has to be reached or exceeded (311 miles) in this case to enable the indication to be reset.
A charming hooliganism it most definitely is! Cheers Ian 😀👍🏻
@@MerciaMotoI am expecting to be slightly beyond 311 miles by the time I can get to the dealer. Already booked in for Friday the 18th of October. We are at Barmouth from Sunday 13th till Thursday 17th. Cheers
@@ianhughesroyalenfield 👍🏻 excellent! Sadly it looks like our diaries won’t align again we head over to Barmouth on Friday evenings after work and head home on Sunday Lunchtimes. Hope the weather is kind to you both when you’re over 👍🏻
Thank you for this. Your comments about the bike with the bonus of Walton Hill. A regular spot for kite flying and picnics as a child. I later explored the lanes on my Honda C50 Cub whilst I was at “the Lodge”.
Thanks David, yeah Clent and Walton Hill were was somewhere I visited a lot as a child and teenager. By “the Lodge” are you referring to Holly Lodge? 👍🏻😀
@@MerciaMoto Yes, Holly Lodge.😀
@@davidarthur616 what year were you there? I was there 76 to 81. Small world isn’t it? 😀
@@MerciaMoto Yes it is. Was there 1966-73. So an OAP now 🤣🤣. I was in the last intake before amalgamation with JW Tech. Do you attend the annual dinner?
She's a beauty. Giddy up!
Thanks Tim, it really does feel like your on a skittish horse sometimes 👍🏻😀
G’day Dave, good on ya mate, the Gorilla sounds good mate 👍😁
Enjoy your wet weather
Thanks Clive, sounds awesome doesn’t it? 😀 the weather is dire here at the moment, as well as whinging we’ll be famous for webbed feet soon! 😂😂👍🏻
@@MerciaMoto haha yes you will
Nice video, looking forward to seeing you and Gus out on your travels again. Hope you get out on the Hunter, I nearly bought a Hunter, but when I had a ride on the Guerrilla, I've decided to order one, looking forward to getting out on it when it arrives. Enjoy the party 🍻👍
Cheers Malcolm, plans are afoot for Pocket Rocket the Hunter to be out on Wednesday evening, watch this space 😀 I can’t see me ever parting with my Hunter but if I could only have one Royal Enfield, it would have to be the Guerrilla, it’s such an exceptional bike! 👍🏻
Yep I do still like the Hunter, 👍
The engine sounds really good and really lively, I bet it'll become your favourite 👍 I miss bike shops that fronted onto pavements and have all the bikes out the front
It’s does have a glorious engine sound doesn’t it? Ah old style motorcycle shops and dealers, there was something special about them and QB’s still has it. There was a motorcycle shop in Carters Green West Bromwich called Perry’s. That place was magical, if you needed parts for your bike, this was early 1989’s’ you could go in, and the owner would disappear up the stares, you’d hear him rifling around and a few minutes later he’d appear back down the stairs with the part in his hand. I would loved to have seen what it looked like up in that stores. He always had what I needed in store, amazing! Cheers Glyn
unleash the best great stuff dave
Cheers mate, it certainly is a beast! 😀👍🏻
Nice one Dave. Enjoying your Guerrilla videos, they are of great interest to me for "reasons" 😜
I reckon 6000 rpm should be plenty to really start to appreciate the performance this bike has. Basically, now, you just have to avoid revving it out and you no longer have to worry about it lugging.
I would probably run mine in by ear, just like I had to do with the Classic and the Meteor. I will probably end up not exceeding 5000 rpm in the first 300 miles ( 5k should be ok and make it easier to avoid the lugging ) and then after that, avoid revving it too hard until I get the RE "give it the berries" green light ( at which point it will get a proper spanking ) !
Call me weird but I do enjoy the sounds this bike makes. I was always a sucker for a subtle gear driven cam whistle and it also provides a bit of induction roar and a bit of a bellow out of the exhaust. I will be interested to see how it can sound with an aftermarket silencer at some point although I do find the OEM system to be characterful enough really.
As far as I can tell, your fan doesn't come on every time you are stopped in traffic, or does it ? I had that on my latest test ride and it wasn't a hot day, just 22C. Made me think that the demo bike might have been low on coolant. Does your fan come on at every opportunity ?
Enjoy Dave ! I'm still ruminating over here in Spain 🤔
Cheers,
Garry & Ruby
Hi Garry and Ruby, thanks for for watching the videos, I hope I’m tempting you over to the Guerrilla club albeit a none garish ponsey coloured version! 😜
Yeah, I think 6K revs is its sweet spot. I’ve not been out on it for a few weeks with current work commitments and miserable weather, my CCM and Speed Twin have already entered hibernation and The Guerrilla and Hunter will probably be joining em this weekend.
Running in by ear seems like a sensible strategy, it’s a very different animal to run in than either the Scram or Hunter was, and it did have me a little conflicted at times with how to approach it. But what a bike, can’t wait for spring, this may well be my Wales bike for next year 🤔 cheers 👍🏻😀
P.S the fan did kick in quite often. Something for me to think about and monitor when I’m next out on it. 👍🏻
@@MerciaMoto Hi Dave. I did wonder whether it would end up in Wales, since it directly replaced the Scram which was stationed there. You would probably have better access to more brilliant roads with the bike parked there, 'tis true.
Thanks for the update on the fan. Phil ( see the comments to my Cloudy No Meatballs video, where I posed the question ) says that he has never heard his fan come on, so there seems to be some inconsistency there. Check the coolant level if you can Dave. Maybe some bikes get delivered with less coolant than others (?). I don't recall it happening on the Himmy 450 I tried and that was during much warmer weather, so I don't imagine that the fan should be coming on all that often at this time of year.
Definitely something to keep an eye on and if I end up getting one I will keep people updated on the situation. I had A LOT of heat coming off the engine when stood at the lights, almost burning my right leg until I moved it further away from the bike. So I think the fan was probably justified in coming on, the engine certainly seemed to be running pretty darn hot !
At least the Tripper Dash has a temperature readout in the menu somewhere. Not sure how you can tell what's going on with the analogue versions. Probably just a red idiot light that goes on when it's already too late 😂
Cheers Mr Dave,
Garry & Ruby
Nice looking bike there. Considering one myself. How do you find the stock tyres and are they any good in the wet?
Hello, thanks for watching and leaving a comment 🙏🏼 They are great bikes, I don’t think you’d regret buying one. The tyres are very good in my opinion, I didn’t experience any issues with them when i was riding in the wet 👍🏻😀
Long way home? Left Monday returned home Weds . Awsome Enjoy. Mike Sunny Wales
Thanks Mike, haha she’d have my bags packed! 😂😂👍🏻
Have you tried riding with Polaroid Sunglasses? I am wondering if the LED Instrument Dial goes black? Thank you.
Hi Robert, I’m afraid I haven’t. There are two settings on the TFT screen, if it is set to dark mode it’s maintained, however it it is set to light mode it darkens as the ambient light decreases.
@@MerciaMoto There seems to be two types of screen available, one that has colour & one that is black & white. From the videos the black & white one seems to be harder to see at angles. Normally, as this works by altering polarity, Polaroid lenses tend to end up only seeing a black screen. Anyway, I guess I will need try this out at a dealer. Thanks.
Release the Kraken!
@@steveoswin6084 haha cheers Steve 👍🏻😀
Good morning Dave. Yes wet days and to add to the pleasure the school run. So Rob has moved to Royal Enfield. I'm very confused about what's happening with the import and backup now. Moto GB still seem to selling their stock but if you order a new RE will it come direct from RE India... Sorry just breakfast coffee musing here 😂.
Pleased to hear that Pocket Rocket is still giving you something Gus doesn't. You're quite clearly besotted with Gus. ❤️.
As I write this you're most likely trying to clear a hangover from the birthday party 😂😂.
Oh and why is Rob known as the Baron of Halesowen?
Pleased you got a nice run post service.
I think (just my opinion - others may think otherwise 😂) -that motorcycles reflect personality.
Yes that's one nippy bike and light too at 184 kilo. They'll sell like the proverbial 💛
Hello Peter, yeah great news about Rob ordering a Guerrilla, hopefully he will have it in his possession soon. We suspect the running in will be challenging for Rob as he does like to let rip on his bikes, he likes to channel his inner Valentino Rossi when he rides his bikes 😂😂 My love for Pocket Rocket has not been diminished and shall remain my forever bike. He’s coming out again soon! Can you actually believe that
I feel I’m neglecting my bikes when I’m not riding them. I imagine this is how a man with a religion that allows multiple wives must feel! 😂😂😂
Lord Joseph (Joe) the Barron of Halesowen is the elder of our group of miscreants, the one who challenges our, at times, childish behaviour 😂😂😀 Also the owner of two enormous 8 foot high stone Lions that flank the driveway to Fowler Towers, a sight most splendid for folks driving past and a metaphor for the lion amongst men who’s fortress they guard! 😂😂😂👍🏻
I didn't realise Ian Hughes bought the Guerrilla. I thought it was a loan bike
Did you watch the Kirkstone vid to the end ? It was hard, but I managed to keep most people guessing until the end 😉😂
@ianhughesroyalenfield Not yet, but i will do. It's just that i thought when you thanked the people for arranging the ride on the Guerrilla that it was for the loan of the bike.
@@alanthelonerangerthat’s just me trying to keep a lid on it until the end…….sneaky I know, but everyone seems to do their reveals at the start of a video…..I like to mix things up a bit 😂
😀 I see Ian has responded directly, he’s such a tease isn’t he? 😀👍🏻
I've got a 650 Continental and considering one of these.
I've seen the numbers on the spec sheet but if you're familiar with the 650 how does this compare engine performance wise in real road conditions?
I've ridden both the 650 Continental GT and the 650 Interceptor and from memory I would say my Guerilla is a bit quicker through the gears and about the same top end. The main thing that put me off the GT and the Interceptor was the weight factor. The Guerilla is so much more agile and nimble to move around. You would need to have a good road test on one to make your own judgement but don't be surprised if you're blown away with it on performance, handling, comfort and the all important bit, value for money. They really are a cracking bike.🙂👍
@@jonathandeeley6276 Thanks.
I like the torque of the 650. I find mine effortless at low to medium revs but that weight certainly tells.
I'll test ride the Guerrilla and hope that torquey feeling is still there due to lighter weight compensating for 200cc less.
I have been fortunate in that I had owned an Interceptor for 3 years, and done demo rides on the newer Interceptor, the Shot Gun, and the Super Meteor. As Jonathan said, the liquid cooled 450, is freer revving, definitely getting through the gears quicker. You can definitely feel the weight difference. I used to chuck my Interceptor around through the twisties, but the Guerrilla is so much easier…..more nimble, and an absolute hoot ! With me doing ride vids, I do get tempted, but non tempted me enough to buy one, until a I rode the Guerrilla 😉
It’s interesting you should ask that question, I was out for a ride yesterday and I was telling the guys about the similarity in torque and response to the Interceptor I owned previously and the other commenters, Jonathan and Ian have a similar take. It is probably due to the power to weight ratio and as the guys say the freer revving liquid cooled 450 is a major factor 👍🏻
What is the best use case for this bike, kindly?
Hello, thanks for leaving a comment. The Guerrilla really does tick so many boxes. Would be great around town as a commuter bike being light and easy to handle, good for touring although I wouldn’t want to do any significant motorway riding on it, and I think some light off road trail riding could be done easily on this bike. Hope that answers your question? 👍🏻😀
@@MerciaMoto Perfect. Thank you! I am looking for the one bike to do it all. Maybe the Himi or the Super Meteor. 🙏🏽
maybe its the relays full of grease that was the fault on other re bikes need degreased
Good morning William, thanks for watching and leaving a comment. 😀 I hear a lot of perspectives regarding the dielectric grease causing problems and as an electrical engineer, for me this is not an issue. The quality of the relays is the most probable cause of problems that folks have had. The moisture ingress and corrosion that would occur due to the absence of dielectric grease would be more of a concern. Fortunately the problem seems to have resolved and should it return I will be delving into the potential causes. Really appreciate you watching an leaving a suggestion, always good to receive ideas and feedback. Cheers 👍🏻😀