Greetings all! If i didn't own the Himalayan 450, I would have found Stuart's comments on handling, cornering and tyre performance a tad exaggerated. But, you see, I DO own the bike, and i find myself completely agreeing with the verdict. Cheers, and ride safe!!
Thank you Stuart, you've made up my long undecided mind. At 76 this is my next and last bike. It ticks all my boxes and compliments all my desires, great review. Now if I could find a partner like that the last part of my life could be perfection.
Royal Enfield had to produce something special to replace the first Himalayan, and it looks like they've done it! I've seen reviews where a couple of BMW GS owners were seriously considering trading in their bikes for the new Himalayan! Precisely because of all the characteristics that you say that've been lost. Royal Enfield seem to hit the sweet spot in all their motorcycles! Made by enthusiasts, for enthusiasts! Another insightful review. Thank you Uncle Stu!
Thank you for your very constructive review. I have been an owner since May with over 2500 mile done so far and my bike is all stock aside from bar end mirrors. It is a superb motorcycle and outperforms its 450 cc capacity. It loves to be ridden with enthusiasm with a smooth strong engine for a 450 single, excellent handling, brakes and suspension . Vibration is there if you look for it only noticeable having to ride at lower speeds at a constant pace in average speed camera road works for example. I have ridden several 100 mile trips in perfect comfort with no numbness in hand or feet. I feel confident tackling any journey and would thorough recommend it. The ideal machine for Lincolnshire’s sketchy roads. It is a joy to look at too in the black with gold wheels.
I agree that most people are becoming a little soft as far as they're able to handle the "vibrations" of motos. I had a dealer probably 40 years ago that said a moto is 2 wheels, a motor, and a frame. If you're looking for no vibration- get in your car. Part of the personality is a certain amount of vibes.
@@tomordr the comment originated from my BMW dealer. I've been lucky to have never had a bone shaker., but I've heard the same comments over the years. Bikes have greatly changed over the years., as my comments should be reread b4 I push the send button. Sorry if I've offened anyone. 🤔🤔
Say that to my fellows at work who have had their hands ruined by rotary tools. Vibrations may not cause immediate problems, but hours and hours of vibrations eventually lead to nerve damage and could even lead to the inability to ride your bike.
I crashed my 411 end of last year. Its tank style built most likely saved me a leg - so after some time in Hospital I searched for a replacement, drove my other bikes more, but missed the 411 so much that I finally bought a "new" low milage 411. Since then my other bikes spent most time in the Garage again.
What an excellent review! I have a 2020 Interceptor that I just love and used to have adventure bikes but as you say they became unmanageable. I still wouldn't mind a little gravel road riding and the Interceptor does that but it doesn't have the suspension required. I would consider this bike but would have to rebuild the seat. I always ride alone and at 6' 5", I would have a worse problem than you had. I will take your advice and take one for a test run. I just turned 78 and still ride most every day and will continue as long as I can still swing a leg over. Thanks Stu.
Entertaining and informative as ever, thanks Stuart. Interesting comments on reviewing Chinese stuff. I have only ever had one Chinese bike. No savings, a mortgage to pay, no motorised transport and suddenly made redundant. A cheap 125 was a life-saver, enabling me to take employment only accessible via personal motorised transport. Mine was six months old and cost me £500. I couldn't fault it at the price as a commuter. It was however quite horrid and I was glad to replace it a few months later with a car and a bigger bike. I gave the 125 to my son who had no income as he was at uni at the time. He is 6'3" and sitting on the 125 it looked as though he had stolen it from a child! It certainly sparked his interest though as 20 years on he rides an XJR1300...
Well done stuart, i have seen many reviews on the 450 Himmy and they ended up being as clear as mud , not so with this one , you always take a level headed and practical approach which results in me getting a real life view of what the bike concerned is capable of in the real world , there is no perfect motorcycle out there so im looking for the one that is perfect for me, you’re reviews give people half a chance at doing that , thanks pal👍
Good review . I am in Alabama USA , have the 411 and still ride some , but the 450 Himalayan is definitely a big improvement . Got over 1,000 mi. On 450 and going strong . Seems Royal Enfield got it right as far as im concerned .I'm loving my new 450 .
I've now reached 4.5k miles on my 450. That included a trip to Berlin and back. I agree 100% with your review. It's a great bike and at the price, it's superb.
This is why I enjoy watching your motorcycle reviews. I know I am not getting the secret handshake. Your reviews of motorcycles give me a feel for the bike without owning it and allows me to really ponder it. The bike is not flamboyant and it's not a tv dinner. It's your typical well thought out down to earth bargain adventure bike from a company giving you all the pleasure you're looking for at a very affordable price. Goodbye for now my friend.
I was scowering the video for weather protection and it was there but I think it can be also shown that the wind protection on this type of motorcycle really helps in cooler weather. I have been lusting after the Hunter but as I live in Canada with short summers I have discovered just recently, on my Kawasaki Versys 300, how life is much comfortable behind all the front shielding, plus my heated grips are real good addition. Great review.
Good to hear your reasons for not reviewing the Chinese bikes. Very sensible reasons imho. I recently heard that my 2 nearest Enfield dealers (both 250 miles away!) have shut-up shop. Hopefully RE can sort something out or a whole bunch of owners are going to feel that they are no better off than those who bought unsupported Chinese bikes in the past.
I'm probably the old fart in the room here, but I prefer the looks of the original Himalayan. I had the pleasure (?) of abusing one in the Himalayas eight years ago; it was the carburated version and struggled above 9000 feet. As the daily altitude was a bit up-and-down it wasn't worth changing the jets. I had thought about buying one and sticking a Hitchcocks' 460cc kit on it, but forced early retirement killed that idea (I was outsourced to Bulgaria, rather than medical reasons). Ah well. I'll just keep modifying and racking up the miles on my 2020 500 Bullet.
Hi Stuart, been listening to you for about three years have yet to disagree with anything that you say I’m to the Royal Enfield Enfield for 25 years. I love the way you review. Thanks for all that you do all the best Alan Snook.
This is a great review, thank you. If anyone is interested in seeing this bike being used off road, I’ve just watched over two hours of films by Adam Riemann as he crossed the Himalayan mountains between Nepal and India, it’s amazing viewing. 👍
Nice one, Stu. 59 year old sworn Guzzi rider from NZ here. Now the owner of three Royal Enfields-thanks in part to you. Maybe four now… And here’s another twist: this ride took you right past my boyhood home in Paull. Top work! Keep it up…
Ahoy, another Moto Guzzi rider here. I have a Himi 450 tubless on order. There are only 3 motorcycle manufacturers that have been in continuous production for over 100 years. Harley Davidson, Royal Enfield and Moto Guzzi. Harley's don't intrest me.
What a good review! I am looking for a bike to put on a transverse trailer at the back of our moho. It has to be able to carry me and my wife on day trips, and your comments regarding pillions are just the information i was after. Thanks very much.
Just bought a 2025 Himalayan. Dealership told me I'm the first person in the state of Wisconsin to get one. It's still hard to get in the US. Hopefully, I'm going to take it for a bit of a ride in a few days. Thanks for your review.
I have a 411 Himalyan, which I'm delighted with. Thanks to your narrative, I already feel as though I know what it would be like to ride the 450. This must be the definitive riders eye view of the the new Himmie. Ten months late, but devoid of hype and irrelevances. You've certainly set me thinking about this as a possible future bike. What causes me to hesitate are the looks. I'm particularly wedded to the anguarity of the original bike. I love the engine characterisitcs too. The new bike is so much more powerful. For the first time watching a review of the 450 I realised that it must have a spine frame due to the absence of a front down tube. Another difference from the original Himmie. It's a little less distinctive looking perhaps than it's predecessor? What's really impressive about the new bike is it's range and fuel economy. The 411 will pass the 200 mile mark on a tank. This bike will reach 300 plus. That's a real world advantage over many so called adventure bikes. Great review Stuart.
Can't believe no ones commented on the crash at about 7.28 between the double decker and the white SUV,I had to watch it twice to make sure I hadn't imagined it.This video is evidential then Stuart!!
Love your review of the new Himalayan, i would love to own one but now at 73 years Young & now living in the Philippines i'm not so sure if it's such a good idea. My best wishes to you from the Philippines ♥️👍💪😉😀😁🏁🏍️🛺🐑🇵🇭⭐
Hello Stuart. As always a very comprehensive and personal evaluation and discussion on what is an excellent motorcycle. I have test ridden a Guerrilla 450 over two days, a couple of weeks ago for around 150 km. Through torrential rain, unbelievably bad roads, moonscape surfaces and some squishy trails and the bike traipsed through it all. Compared to three others of a similar capacity, the Guerrilla was the right size and weight, capable and confidence assuring for a guy of slight build (166 cm, 66 kg, 74 years). Low speed, high speed, it didn't miss a trick. I went ahead and booked one and expect to get it in the first week of October. Looking forward to my last decade of biking on it (after a Vulcan 650 S, Interceptor 650 and. Tiger Sport 850; returning to biking in 2015 after 1992). I saw a review by you of the Guerrilla 450, but the views all looked like the press showtime rides in Barcelona. If you do get to present a detailed personal study as you have for the Himalayan, I would have a very credible bit of information at hand, to keep an eye out for the variables in time to come. Thanks as always for your efforts- your study vlogs are unparalleled on UA-cam and the only ones I have found honest, unbiased and detailed in the form that makes sense to me. Love the soundtracks too.😂 Insta at susamenon. Mumbai.
Thank you for a good review Stuart. On paper the Himilayan ticks all the boxes for me if i change. Your videos about the C350 have been spot on in regards to the 4000 miles i have enjoyed on mine to-date, so i am happy to listen to your feedback on this bike as well
Great video and good to hear that soundtrack (which over the years has become so recognisable as 1 of yours). If I had the cash, I would definitely get 1 of these as winter hack so that I could ride all year round in the UK.
I have a 450 and fully agree with your comprehensive review, the engine does get smoother after a few miles mine has done 1400 and it is noticeably better. The handling is near perfect and never ceases to amaze me how well it goes around bends without thinking about it. It would be nice to get hold of those pouches but obtaining accessories is one of the downsides of owning an RE. Good review Stuart well done.
Hey Stuart. Thanks for the great review! The suspension seems to be impressing most of the reviewers. One said that he came over the top of a hill, at speed, and was met with a large pothole. He stated that he anticipated that the bike was going to go down. He believes that some of the bikes he has riden would have. On the 450 it was a non issue, as you have observed. On vibration. When I was a young man I rode a Honda CB350 twin enduro for about 4 years. It was quite the vibrator, and did not give a pleasant massage. After a couple hours riding my butt and hands would be numb and tingly. My body did get used to this, and after a few weeks it went from being very uncomfortable, to only noticeable. It sounds like the Himalayan does not have that sort of problem. The side stand. My understanding is that Royal Enfield has already acknowledged that they put too great a bow in the side stand, and that they intend to remedy the problem. Hopefully they will make the straighter one available to people who already own the bike. I have really been looking forward to your review of the Himalayan 450, and I am happy that it has gotten your approval. I would imagine that you will be reviewing the Guerrilla 450 soon? I am looking forward to that one as well. The Himalayan is more my style, but the Guerrilla is more designed to go out and throw it through the twisties. For anyone who intends to review, or vlog with either of these bikes, some will find that their cameras do not play well with the TFT display. For anyone with this problem, just switching the TFT to dark mode appears to solve this issue. Stuarts camera appeared to handle the TFT in light mode just fine.
I don't usually comment but i must say this was a cracking review your completely unbiased stance on everything just makes me want to go out and buy one, as a RE fan my preference at the moment would be the "Gorilla" I find it less Glitzy than the Triumph and more pleasing to the eye, thank you for making the Videos I always watch sometimes more than once, Regards, Colin.
I agree. I think it's a modern xt500 with everything on it you'd put on an xt500 if you wanted to travel. Which people did after the xt started winning Dakar and proved it's toughness. All these extras contribute to the claimed weight, but that's it, it's all there. Everyone else's offerings come as bare bones motorcycles needing money thrown at them and more weight added. I'm loving mine for all the reasons you say. Ride safe 👍
Hi Stuart, another great review thank you... I would love your opinion and thoughts about the Royal Enfield Guerrilla 450, and how the new Himalayan platform works as a roadster. Respecting RE's development of its 350 platforms, it may be another winner.
Your reviews sit nicely between volume reviewers and long term owners reports. Freelance independent with no axe to grind. If that driver didnt see the bus what chance do us bikers have!
There's something very appealing about utilitarian bikes that are affordable to buy, as well as to run. I agree, weight and sophistication doesn't always equate to a better riding experience. This bike could be considered a retro and reminds me of my old Suzuki SP370 or the legendary Yamaha XT500......no bad thing! Great review. Cheers.
Hi have the same bike as you are testing. 3,800 on the clock now. Everything you say is spot on. At about 1,500 the bike really loosens up and seems to improve with every new ride. I am in York and have ridden to St Andrews and put 650 on the clock over 3 days. So comfortable over the long rides. I have Givi GRT720 Canyon soft luggage, perfect and makes the bike look good, hard panniers seem out of place on it. Only thing I would improve is the indicator switches, hard to tell if you have cancelled or put them on with winter gloves. Hardly something to worry about out though.
Hi, I'm interested that your using Canyon panniers, do you have any issues with heat from the silencer? I'm seriously considering a 450 Himmi and would prefer soft luggage but a little concerned about the silencer being maybe too close
@ Hi. I too was worried about the exhaust causing problems, particularly as Givi don’t recommend the GRT720 for the 450. I haven’t experienced any heat issues at all. Longest non stop ride was 250 miles using them. Initially I stopped occasionally to see if the pannier was heating up, but no difference in heat to the non exhaust side. I use them all the time now and don’t even think about heat problems. They look fantastic on the bike, loads of space and easy to clip on/off. You will be very happy with them.
Great review Stuart 👍 In my experience & no doubt yours, the 411 feels torquier lower down & the power runs out 3/4 through the rev range, the 452 torque comes in a bit later & the power goes on much longer & more of it.
The 411 does vibrate a little. Just enough. Power-wise the Hitchcock cam would make all the difference. She'll get right up to 60, then 70, but 80 takes a bit and that's all. With the Hitchcock cam one can go up 1 tooth on the counter shaft sprocket. That would make a nice difference. If only we could obtain Hitchcock products here in the States. Adventure bikes, to me, mean you can tour and when you come to gravel or dirt you don't have to turn around. Thanks for the review.
@@chrisschweitzer8707 Baxter Cycle in Marne, IA sources things from Hitchcock's pretty often. Might give them a try if you can't get something you like directly.
Good morning Stu. What an excellent bike review. Unfortunately I’ve never like this style of bike. If I rode one of these smaller adventures style bikes, I may change my mind. I’m not in the market for a new bike as I’m still in love with my Interceptor. Yours is the first review I’ve watched / read on this model and you do make it seem like a very good buy.
Gteat bike took out for test recently 10 mins in I too was aiming at the potholes we Got plenty in wellington fantastic chasis and sus gteat engine! Have preiviously ridden the CFMoto 450 MT that was good too but the RE took me by suprise, i thought i would not find anything to compare at the price but then i got on the RE and the cat was right on there with pigeons I thonk im gonna push the buton push the RE, noone more suprised than me!! Cheers Stu good fresh review!
Great review Stu. I'm really happy with my air cooled 411 but totally agree that the 450 is a step up on the old bike with higher speed cruising and better handling too. As far as the competition is concerned for a new bike, then I'd rather have this than any Chinese offering (however it is badged). Long term supply of parts is likely to be far more certain with a RE. There are pannier liners available for the 411, so I'm sure they will appear for these quite quickly, together with rear rack extensions too probably.
Good review. I was wondering if Paula and you have ridden the 450 to the market and if so, how much were you able to load into the top case and panners?
Really nice review. The good info on riding with a pillion in particular - rarely mentioned in other reviews and it can be a game changer. Would be interesting to hear a comparison with the 411, as many might be looking for a possible upgrade. Also, weight to lift it from the sidestand -was it an issue?
Hi great review, as a Himalayan 450 owner I was just curious if you think the metal luggage system has much of an effect on the performance of the bike (I’m assuming it’s about 15-20 kg in extra weight) have you ridden a standard bike? Thanks
FWIW 450 and until recently 411 owner. This review is accurate from a road riding perspective. I barely notice that the bike is top heavy 95% of the time. It can catch you out on a sudden stop or cambered road. If you're a bit short in the leg (me) a lower seat and a low link kit are now available from Cooperb. I will be getting the seat. Off road, with a barely competent rider (me again) the 450 is confidence inspiring and capable. Just watch that weight again. If I just wanted something to green lane on, the 411 is the economical choice, but as an all rounder the 450 is on a different level and worth the money to upgrade.
Thank you stuart great review as usual. I have just got mine to replace a guzzi v7 it's just lovely and ideally suited to the isle of man roads where i live . I have a intercepter which is modified,suspension etc but i am leaving the himalayen as it is. Already coverd 700 miles in 4 weeks some going here 😊 As an aside had its first service but dealer couldn't seem to turn off service reminder which now shows service overdue . Safe riding
Haloo! Very easy to reset: switch your bike in 6th (no need for the motor to be running), then keep pushing the joystick left for appprox 3 seconds, and Voila!!
Royal Enfield lent you one with the extras on, it has the full option list. I don't feel they are needed. In 1000 miles I find: Ceat Tyres - Superb - 10/10 Riding position. Comfort - Superb (nice wide bars, enough legroom for me on low (not high) seat setting at 6'1). Standard seat I find comfortable. Wind Protection - Adequate 7/10 - whilst you are not sat in clean air it is ok on the motorway. Ride and Handling - superb 10/10 - pin sharp front end and magic carpet ride quality Performance - Adequate (can cruise at 75mph). Quite torquey and revs freely to 8k revs Vibrations - if pushing hard on the pegs you can feel high pitched vibes at 70mph. Not intrusive after run in period, and on a warm engine. Economy - Superb (75-80mpg average and big tank equals comfortable 250 miles plus range) Technology - Average - The connectivity of the dash is fiddly and the function joystick is flimsy. Should have kept it to just a speedo not a nav too. Build quality - Average - well put together but a lot of hard edged stainless steel silver bolts on the bike that look cheap and some of the frame welds are a bit untidy In summary - It's a brilliant lower middleweight bike thats got an endearing personality and is a lot of fun to own.
Great review. Thanks. Makes me want one! Trouble is, I can’t afford this and to keep my Classic 350 and can’t really bring myself to sell the 350. By the way, remind me, what is the jacket you use in the video and do you rate it? Sorry if I’ve missed this from other videos.
I find it interesting that the Chinese product comes with limits as to what you can say. I think sometimes people forget what China really is, and who runs it, they only look at the price. The Chinese have only been able to buy influence because of the money they make from us. Personally, I do not care to contribute. There is plenty of reasonably priced, quality product coming from other places like India, so my money goes there. The 452 certainly is a fine example of that.
The Himalayan 450 appears to be a great bike. Definitley a worthy heir to the 411 Himalayan. If I were to shrink my bikes in the garage down to two, I could see this and my Husqvarna 501 as being capable of getting me most places a motorcycle should be able to travel.
I lpve ur reviews old man. I really love and respect ur views , its a big deal buy this bike in india , its like the top tier list of indian bikes, in cost and quality , i was just worried about the hight of the bike , being a shorter rider of lik 5"6 i have my reservations buying this. But really want to.
There has been a hole in the market where earlier for example the original Honda Transalp filled a need. The need for a capable tourer, with good, easy handling even loaded with luggage for a lengthy tour and not too difficult to fix if a technical problem arose. If this bike is good enough then RE may well have made the unicorn. In a few years time we will know if that is the case. The start is promising!
I got the chance to ride the demo bike at the local dealer earlier this season. I did not want to return it. Eventually though I felt I had better ride it back if somebody else was keen to try. Before I knew I had ridden it for around fifty + miles. I would probably have bought one if I had not bought a Scram 411 not so long time ago. I am not ready to let that bike go, -yet. 😊
Probably my next bike, just waiting to see the bear 650 and what that has to offer. I do like trundling down a green lane when I can find them.😊 Agree, most manufacturers are way off the mark with what people actually want these days. I don't know why, they seem to have totally misread the market to me.
An insightful review; thanks. As for the pillion/ top-box issue; if I wanted my bike to look like a pizza delivery service, I'd ride a scooter. A top-box is truly the most ugly and ungainly luggage solution known to man. Unless one has to deliver pizza. In this instance, I'd rather use a roll-top bag affixed to the top of the side cases; creating more space and comfort all round. Pardon my rant about the hideousness of top-boxes 😂
I don’t know if you can still try, but the guys at Baxter cycle in Iowa discovered that if you let out the clutch without giving it any throttle, the 450 will rev enough to get you going, and then you can roll on the throttle. Kind of like driving a diesel truck.
Shame my local RE dealer is closing down , due to site rent/lease fees being hiked too silly money , as a test ride on one of these seems a must , I liked the scram 411 , just seemed a tad breathless , but there again it was a new hence tight engine . But the real kicker here is the pending long wait for the classic 650 appears to be all but over with sneak shots released on Faceache and other sites of 3 spotted on the cumbrian moors , DVLA number plate checks confirms details , with a likely launch date in November , now that`s got to be the acid test review RE v BSA , also your going to need a bigger garage to fit yet another must have bike in 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Very good review but did you not park it on a slight slope on the left hand side . Even the RE engineers know it’s not right. I’ve a 411 and not convinced to upgrade. Such is life.
I've ordered a tubeless black one. Only downside, it won't be here until late March or early April. Here in Vermont we get winter so it isn't a huge trouble.
Greetings all! If i didn't own the Himalayan 450, I would have found Stuart's comments on handling, cornering and tyre performance a tad exaggerated. But, you see, I DO own the bike, and i find myself completely agreeing with the verdict. Cheers, and ride safe!!
How do we know that you dont work for Royal?You see what i mean
@@greenrush4313 I own a 450 and I agree with both Stuart and George; now can we both be RE employees?
Thank you Stuart, you've made up my long undecided mind. At 76 this is my next and last bike. It ticks all my boxes and compliments all my desires, great review. Now if I could find a partner like that the last part of my life could be perfection.
You won't be disappointed. Cracking bike. I've just fitted some more aggressive tyres on mine to take it off road.
And at 58 it’s going to be my first. Have fun!
Just be aware it leans along way over, on the side stand! Which makes it feel very heavy to lift up!!
@@johnterry804 I've put an extension foot on mine. Makes it easier.
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Royal Enfield had to produce something special to replace the first Himalayan, and it looks like they've done it! I've seen reviews where a couple of BMW GS owners were seriously considering trading in their bikes for the new Himalayan! Precisely because of all the characteristics that you say that've been lost. Royal Enfield seem to hit the sweet spot in all their motorcycles! Made by enthusiasts, for enthusiasts! Another insightful review. Thank you Uncle Stu!
Thank you for your very constructive review. I have been an owner since May with over 2500 mile done so far and my bike is all stock aside from bar end mirrors. It is a superb motorcycle and outperforms its 450 cc capacity. It loves to be ridden with enthusiasm with a smooth strong engine for a 450 single, excellent handling, brakes and suspension . Vibration is there if you look for it only noticeable having to ride at lower speeds at a constant pace in average speed camera road works for example. I have ridden several 100 mile trips in perfect comfort with no numbness in hand or feet. I feel confident tackling any journey and would thorough recommend it. The ideal machine for Lincolnshire’s sketchy roads. It is a joy to look at too in the black with gold wheels.
I agree that most people are becoming a little soft as far as they're able to handle the "vibrations" of motos. I had a dealer probably 40 years ago that said a moto is 2 wheels, a motor, and a frame. If you're looking for no vibration- get in your car. Part of the personality is a certain amount of vibes.
@@tomordr the comment originated from my BMW dealer. I've been lucky to have never had a bone shaker., but I've heard the same comments over the years. Bikes have greatly changed over the years., as my comments should be reread b4 I push the send button. Sorry if I've offened anyone. 🤔🤔
@@tomordr Which bikes ?.
Say that to my fellows at work who have had their hands ruined by rotary tools. Vibrations may not cause immediate problems, but hours and hours of vibrations eventually lead to nerve damage and could even lead to the inability to ride your bike.
Damm you Fillingham 😡 I was quite happy with my 411. Now I’m going to have to sell a kidney , hope your proud of yourself 😢
Lets's continue to be happy with our 411... at least untill they have everything in stock or even stocks for sale... 😉
I crashed my 411 end of last year. Its tank style built most likely saved me a leg - so after some time in Hospital I searched for a replacement, drove my other bikes more, but missed the 411 so much that I finally bought a "new" low milage 411. Since then my other bikes spent most time in the Garage again.
What an excellent review! I have a 2020 Interceptor that I just love and used to have adventure bikes but as you say they became unmanageable. I still wouldn't mind a little gravel road riding and the Interceptor does that but it doesn't have the suspension required. I would consider this bike but would have to rebuild the seat. I always ride alone and at 6' 5", I would have a worse problem than you had. I will take your advice and take one for a test run. I just turned 78 and still ride most every day and will continue as long as I can still swing a leg over. Thanks Stu.
Very high praise delivered from a trusted source! Thank you for your efforts sir!
Entertaining and informative as ever, thanks Stuart.
Interesting comments on reviewing Chinese stuff. I have only ever had one Chinese bike. No savings, a mortgage to pay, no motorised transport and suddenly made redundant. A cheap 125 was a life-saver, enabling me to take employment only accessible via personal motorised transport. Mine was six months old and cost me £500. I couldn't fault it at the price as a commuter. It was however quite horrid and I was glad to replace it a few months later with a car and a bigger bike. I gave the 125 to my son who had no income as he was at uni at the time. He is 6'3" and sitting on the 125 it looked as though he had stolen it from a child! It certainly sparked his interest though as 20 years on he rides an XJR1300...
Well done stuart, i have seen many reviews on the 450 Himmy and they ended up being as clear as mud , not so with this one , you always take a level headed and practical approach which results in me getting a real life view of what the bike concerned is capable of in the real world , there is no perfect motorcycle out there so im looking for the one that is perfect for me, you’re reviews give people half a chance at doing that , thanks pal👍
Good review . I am in Alabama USA , have the 411 and still ride some , but the 450 Himalayan is definitely a big improvement . Got over 1,000 mi. On 450 and going strong . Seems Royal Enfield got it right as far as im concerned .I'm loving my new 450 .
I've now reached 4.5k miles on my 450. That included a trip to Berlin and back. I agree 100% with your review. It's a great bike and at the price, it's superb.
This is why I enjoy watching your motorcycle reviews. I know I am not getting the secret handshake. Your reviews of motorcycles give me a feel for the bike without owning it and allows me to really ponder it. The bike is not flamboyant and it's not a tv dinner. It's your typical well thought out down to earth bargain adventure bike from a company giving you all the pleasure you're looking for at a very affordable price. Goodbye for now my friend.
I was scowering the video for weather protection and it was there but I think it can be also shown that the wind protection on this type of motorcycle really helps in cooler weather. I have been lusting after the Hunter but as I live in Canada with short summers I have discovered just recently, on my Kawasaki Versys 300, how life is much comfortable behind all the front shielding, plus my heated grips are real good addition. Great review.
Good to hear your reasons for not reviewing the Chinese bikes. Very sensible reasons imho.
I recently heard that my 2 nearest Enfield dealers (both 250 miles away!) have shut-up shop. Hopefully RE can sort something out or a whole bunch of owners are going to feel that they are no better off than those who bought unsupported Chinese bikes in the past.
No nonsense review I would say, I think you covered all points well.
I'm probably the old fart in the room here, but I prefer the looks of the original Himalayan. I had the pleasure (?) of abusing one in the Himalayas eight years ago; it was the carburated version and struggled above 9000 feet. As the daily altitude was a bit up-and-down it wasn't worth changing the jets. I had thought about buying one and sticking a Hitchcocks' 460cc kit on it, but forced early retirement killed that idea (I was outsourced to Bulgaria, rather than medical reasons). Ah well. I'll just keep modifying and racking up the miles on my 2020 500 Bullet.
Hi Stuart, been listening to you for about three years have yet to disagree with anything that you say I’m to the Royal Enfield Enfield for 25 years. I love the way you review. Thanks for all that you do all the best Alan Snook.
This is a great review, thank you. If anyone is interested in seeing this bike being used off road, I’ve just watched over two hours of films by Adam Riemann as he crossed the Himalayan mountains between Nepal and India, it’s amazing viewing. 👍
Well done Enfield, that sounds like a terrific bike and I hope they sell boat loads of 'em. A most informative review, thanks Stu👍
Nice one, Stu.
59 year old sworn Guzzi rider from NZ here. Now the owner of three Royal Enfields-thanks in part to you. Maybe four now…
And here’s another twist: this ride took you right past my boyhood home in Paull.
Top work! Keep it up…
Ahoy, another Moto Guzzi rider here. I have a Himi 450 tubless on order. There are only 3 motorcycle manufacturers that have been in continuous production for over 100 years. Harley Davidson, Royal Enfield and Moto Guzzi. Harley's don't intrest me.
What a good review! I am looking for a bike to put on a transverse trailer at the back of our moho. It has to be able to carry me and my wife on day trips, and your comments regarding pillions are just the information i was after. Thanks very much.
Just bought a 2025 Himalayan. Dealership told me I'm the first person in the state of Wisconsin to get one. It's still hard to get in the US. Hopefully, I'm going to take it for a bit of a ride in a few days. Thanks for your review.
The Carlsberg of motorcycle reviews
I have a 411 Himalyan, which I'm delighted with. Thanks to your narrative, I already feel as though I know what it would be like to ride the 450. This must be the definitive riders eye view of the the new Himmie. Ten months late, but devoid of hype and irrelevances. You've certainly set me thinking about this as a possible future bike. What causes me to hesitate are the looks. I'm particularly wedded to the anguarity of the original bike. I love the engine characterisitcs too. The new bike is so much more powerful. For the first time watching a review of the 450 I realised that it must have a spine frame due to the absence of a front down tube. Another difference from the original Himmie. It's a little less distinctive looking perhaps than it's predecessor? What's really impressive about the new bike is it's range and fuel economy. The 411 will pass the 200 mile mark on a tank. This bike will reach 300 plus. That's a real world advantage over many so called adventure bikes. Great review Stuart.
I am from India, easily identified with the 1st few seconds. All moto vlogs record at least 1 accident.😂
"I don't work for anyone except myself." I love your honesty, man. 🙏
Can't believe no ones commented on the crash at about 7.28 between the double decker and the white SUV,I had to watch it twice to make sure I hadn't imagined it.This video is evidential then Stuart!!
The video opened with the crash
if the car didn't see a double decker bus.. what hope is there for bikers?!
Why this comment isn’t in top by now 😂
Love your review of the new Himalayan, i would love to own one but now at 73 years Young & now living in the Philippines i'm not so sure if it's such a good idea. My best wishes to you from the Philippines ♥️👍💪😉😀😁🏁🏍️🛺🐑🇵🇭⭐
Hello Stuart. As always a very comprehensive and personal evaluation and discussion on what is an excellent motorcycle.
I have test ridden a Guerrilla 450 over two days, a couple of weeks ago for around 150 km. Through torrential rain, unbelievably bad roads, moonscape surfaces and some squishy trails and the bike traipsed through it all. Compared to three others of a similar capacity, the Guerrilla was the right size and weight, capable and confidence assuring for a guy of slight build (166 cm, 66 kg, 74 years). Low speed, high speed, it didn't miss a trick. I went ahead and booked one and expect to get it in the first week of October.
Looking forward to my last decade of biking on it (after a Vulcan 650 S, Interceptor 650 and. Tiger Sport 850; returning to biking in 2015 after 1992).
I saw a review by you of the Guerrilla 450, but the views all looked like the press showtime rides in Barcelona.
If you do get to present a detailed personal study as you have for the Himalayan, I would have a very credible bit of information at hand, to keep an eye out for the variables in time to come.
Thanks as always for your efforts- your study vlogs are unparalleled on UA-cam and the only ones I have found honest, unbiased and detailed in the form that makes sense to me. Love the soundtracks too.😂 Insta at
susamenon. Mumbai.
Outstanding review! Best unbiased review I have seen
Thank you for a good review Stuart.
On paper the Himilayan ticks all the boxes for me if i change.
Your videos about the C350 have been spot on in regards to the 4000 miles i have enjoyed on mine to-date, so i am happy to listen to your feedback on this bike as well
Great honest review. Thank you. You've almost persuaded me to get one, the only thing I love my hunter350 too much. Cheers stu
Brilliant video as always Stuart and I really like this bike more and more, the more I see it 😃👍🏻
Great video and good to hear that soundtrack (which over the years has become so recognisable as 1 of yours).
If I had the cash, I would definitely get 1 of these as winter hack so that I could ride all year round in the UK.
Stu's reviews are really all I watch.
I have a 450 and fully agree with your comprehensive review, the engine does get smoother after a few miles mine has done 1400 and it is noticeably better. The handling is near perfect and never ceases to amaze me how well it goes around bends without thinking about it. It would be nice to get hold of those pouches but obtaining accessories is one of the downsides of owning an RE. Good review Stuart well done.
Another wonderful down to earth review. Impressed by your take on the handing.
Keep up the excellent work.
Kind regards, Gary (Aust)
Hey Stuart. Thanks for the great review!
The suspension seems to be impressing most of the reviewers. One said that he came over the top of a hill, at speed, and was met with a large pothole. He stated that he anticipated that the bike was going to go down. He believes that some of the bikes he has riden would have. On the 450 it was a non issue, as you have observed.
On vibration. When I was a young man I rode a Honda CB350 twin enduro for about 4 years. It was quite the vibrator, and did not give a pleasant massage. After a couple hours riding my butt and hands would be numb and tingly. My body did get used to this, and after a few weeks it went from being very uncomfortable, to only noticeable. It sounds like the Himalayan does not have that sort of problem.
The side stand. My understanding is that Royal Enfield has already acknowledged that they put too great a bow in the side stand, and that they intend to remedy the problem. Hopefully they will make the straighter one available to people who already own the bike.
I have really been looking forward to your review of the Himalayan 450, and I am happy that it has gotten your approval. I would imagine that you will be reviewing the Guerrilla 450 soon? I am looking forward to that one as well. The Himalayan is more my style, but the Guerrilla is more designed to go out and throw it through the twisties.
For anyone who intends to review, or vlog with either of these bikes, some will find that their cameras do not play well with the TFT display. For anyone with this problem, just switching the TFT to dark mode appears to solve this issue. Stuarts camera appeared to handle the TFT in light mode just fine.
I don't usually comment but i must say this was a cracking review your completely unbiased stance on everything just makes me want to go out and buy one, as a RE fan my preference at the moment would be the "Gorilla" I find it less Glitzy than the Triumph and more pleasing to the eye, thank you for making the Videos I always watch sometimes more than once, Regards, Colin.
I agree.
I think it's a modern xt500 with everything on it you'd put on an xt500 if you wanted to travel.
Which people did after the xt started winning Dakar and proved it's toughness.
All these extras contribute to the claimed weight, but that's it, it's all there. Everyone else's offerings come as bare bones motorcycles needing money thrown at them and more weight added.
I'm loving mine for all the reasons you say.
Ride safe 👍
Excellent review, very thorough on real world riding for most people. Cheers.
Great review! Would you say that the classic 350 although being smaller has better ergonomics, especially for taller people? Thank you!
Very difficult to not sell my Super Meteor 650 and get the Himalayan 450, I love this bike, wish I could own both
Love your beautiful honest reviews..
Good review as always Stuart. This is a good replacement for the previous model and will hopefully be successful for Enfield.
Hi Stuart, another great review thank you... I would love your opinion and thoughts about the Royal Enfield Guerrilla 450, and how the new Himalayan platform works as a roadster. Respecting RE's development of its 350 platforms, it may be another winner.
Looks a brilliant bike. Very tempted! Also love the tubeless spocked wheels.
Your reviews sit nicely between volume reviewers and long term owners reports. Freelance independent with no axe to grind. If that driver didnt see the bus what chance do us bikers have!
There's something very appealing about utilitarian bikes that are affordable to buy, as well as to run. I agree, weight and sophistication doesn't always equate to a better riding experience. This bike could be considered a retro and reminds me of my old Suzuki SP370 or the legendary Yamaha XT500......no bad thing! Great review. Cheers.
Hi have the same bike as you are testing. 3,800 on the clock now. Everything you say is spot on. At about 1,500 the bike really loosens up and seems to improve with every new ride. I am in York and have ridden to St Andrews and put 650 on the clock over 3 days. So comfortable over the long rides. I have Givi GRT720 Canyon soft luggage, perfect and makes the bike look good, hard panniers seem out of place on it. Only thing I would improve is the indicator switches, hard to tell if you have cancelled or put them on with winter gloves. Hardly something to worry about out though.
Hi, I'm interested that your using Canyon panniers, do you have any issues with heat from the silencer? I'm seriously considering a 450 Himmi and would prefer soft luggage but a little concerned about the silencer being maybe too close
@ Hi. I too was worried about the exhaust causing problems, particularly as Givi don’t recommend the GRT720 for the 450. I haven’t experienced any heat issues at all. Longest non stop ride was 250 miles using them. Initially I stopped occasionally to see if the pannier was heating up, but no difference in heat to the non exhaust side. I use them all the time now and don’t even think about heat problems. They look fantastic on the bike, loads of space and easy to clip on/off. You will be very happy with them.
Much appreciate that you are picky with who you work! 👍
Great review Stuart 👍
In my experience & no doubt yours, the 411 feels torquier lower down & the power runs out 3/4 through the rev range, the 452 torque comes in a bit later & the power goes on much longer & more of it.
Totally agree
The 411 does vibrate a little. Just enough. Power-wise the Hitchcock cam would make all the difference. She'll get right up to 60, then 70, but 80 takes a bit and that's all. With the Hitchcock cam one can go up 1 tooth on the counter shaft sprocket. That would make a nice difference.
If only we could obtain Hitchcock products here in the States.
Adventure bikes, to me, mean you can tour and when you come to gravel or dirt you don't have to turn around.
Thanks for the review.
@@chrisschweitzer8707
One tooth up front without the cam makes a difference, higher speeds, lower revs in each gear. I've two 411's.
@@chrisschweitzer8707 Baxter Cycle in Marne, IA sources things from Hitchcock's pretty often. Might give them a try if you can't get something you like directly.
Excellent review, Stuart. I would love to try one out.
Good Morning Stu , Thanks for a great review on this bike , ride safe
Good morning Stu. What an excellent bike review. Unfortunately I’ve never like this style of bike. If I rode one of these smaller adventures style bikes, I may change my mind. I’m not in the market for a new bike as I’m still in love with my Interceptor. Yours is the first review I’ve watched / read on this model and you do make it seem like a very good buy.
You were late to the game, but like my GS550, the last Japanese manufacture to come our with a range of in line fours, you are the best.
Gteat bike took out for test recently 10 mins in I too was aiming at the potholes we Got plenty in wellington fantastic chasis and sus gteat engine! Have preiviously ridden the CFMoto 450 MT that was good too but the RE took me by suprise, i thought i would not find anything to compare at the price but then i got on the RE and the cat was right on there with pigeons I thonk im gonna push the buton push the RE, noone more suprised than me!! Cheers Stu good fresh review!
A great review. Thanks Stuart. Enfield are really on the money with their bikes at the minute. Bikes that do the job at a reasonable cost
Thanks Stuart, great review!
Thank You Robb!
Like the Himaalayan, But Guerrilla is more interesting for me
Спасибо, за честный и объективный отзыв. Подписка и лайк.
Another great review, I took this for a test ride and agree with all you share. I am seriously considering getting one. Watch this space.
Great review Stu. I'm really happy with my air cooled 411 but totally agree that the 450 is a step up on the old bike with higher speed cruising and better handling too. As far as the competition is concerned for a new bike, then I'd rather have this than any Chinese offering (however it is badged). Long term supply of parts is likely to be far more certain with a RE. There are pannier liners available for the 411, so I'm sure they will appear for these quite quickly, together with rear rack extensions too probably.
Good review. I was wondering if Paula and you have ridden the 450 to the market and if so, how much were you able to load into the top case and panners?
Really nice review. The good info on riding with a pillion in particular - rarely mentioned in other reviews and it can be a game changer. Would be interesting to hear a comparison with the 411, as many might be looking for a possible upgrade. Also, weight to lift it from the sidestand -was it an issue?
Hi great review, as a Himalayan 450 owner I was just curious if you think the metal luggage system has much of an effect on the performance of the bike (I’m assuming it’s about 15-20 kg in extra weight) have you ridden a standard bike? Thanks
i think drag will be more of an issue than weight. having said that the bike seems punchy enough with them fitted so not really an issue.
FWIW 450 and until recently 411 owner. This review is accurate from a road riding perspective. I barely notice that the bike is top heavy 95% of the time. It can catch you out on a sudden stop or cambered road. If you're a bit short in the leg (me) a lower seat and a low link kit are now available from Cooperb. I will be getting the seat. Off road, with a barely competent rider (me again) the 450 is confidence inspiring and capable. Just watch that weight again. If I just wanted something to green lane on, the 411 is the economical choice, but as an all rounder the 450 is on a different level and worth the money to upgrade.
want to surprise my wife with this one.. panniers included.. .She is not that tall .1,58 mtr .. but it will be great for here i think
Nice review thanks going to book a test ride 👍👍
Will be interesting to see your take on the Guerrilla, when you get to test one of those.
Nice one Stu thinking of trading my 500 bullet in for the 450 had my eyes on this bike for a while now just like the look of it.
Watch this space
Stuart, Having recently bought this bike, I have to agree with every word of your review. Keep up the good work. 😁👍
Thank you stuart great review as usual. I have just got mine to replace a guzzi v7 it's just lovely and ideally suited to the isle of man roads where i live . I have a intercepter which is modified,suspension etc but i am leaving the himalayen as it is. Already coverd 700 miles in 4 weeks some going here 😊
As an aside had its first service but dealer couldn't seem to turn off service reminder which now shows service overdue .
Safe riding
Haloo! Very easy to reset: switch your bike in 6th (no need for the motor to be running), then keep pushing the joystick left for appprox 3 seconds, and Voila!!
Royal Enfield lent you one with the extras on, it has the full option list. I don't feel they are needed. In 1000 miles I find:
Ceat Tyres - Superb - 10/10
Riding position. Comfort - Superb (nice wide bars, enough legroom for me on low (not high) seat setting at 6'1). Standard seat I find comfortable.
Wind Protection - Adequate 7/10 - whilst you are not sat in clean air it is ok on the motorway.
Ride and Handling - superb 10/10 - pin sharp front end and magic carpet ride quality
Performance - Adequate (can cruise at 75mph). Quite torquey and revs freely to 8k revs
Vibrations - if pushing hard on the pegs you can feel high pitched vibes at 70mph. Not intrusive after run in period, and on a warm engine.
Economy - Superb (75-80mpg average and big tank equals comfortable 250 miles plus range)
Technology - Average - The connectivity of the dash is fiddly and the function joystick is flimsy. Should have kept it to just a speedo not a nav too.
Build quality - Average - well put together but a lot of hard edged stainless steel silver bolts on the bike that look cheap and some of the frame welds are a bit untidy
In summary - It's a brilliant lower middleweight bike thats got an endearing personality and is a lot of fun to own.
yeah i made a video on that subject last week
Thank you for a great review.
Great review. Thanks. Makes me want one! Trouble is, I can’t afford this and to keep my Classic 350 and can’t really bring myself to sell the 350. By the way, remind me, what is the jacket you use in the video and do you rate it? Sorry if I’ve missed this from other videos.
review of the jacket coming up. its the Goldtop patrol. lovely bit of kit.
Thank you! I think you should rapidly get rid of all the luggages and try it "naked" for (much) more agility amd punch in the "slaloms" 😃
I find it interesting that the Chinese product comes with limits as to what you can say. I think sometimes people forget what China really is, and who runs it, they only look at the price. The Chinese have only been able to buy influence because of the money they make from us. Personally, I do not care to contribute. There is plenty of reasonably priced, quality product coming from other places like India, so my money goes there. The 452 certainly is a fine example of that.
The Himalayan 450 appears to be a great bike. Definitley a worthy heir to the 411 Himalayan.
If I were to shrink my bikes in the garage down to two, I could see this and my Husqvarna 501 as being capable of getting me most places a motorcycle should be able to travel.
Great review, sounds like r.e. have done a good job.
I lpve ur reviews old man. I really love and respect ur views , its a big deal buy this bike in india , its like the top tier list of indian bikes, in cost and quality , i was just worried about the hight of the bike , being a shorter rider of lik 5"6 i have my reservations buying this. But really want to.
try one for size!
great video. One question: the windscreen seems to distort the view around its periphery. Did that bother you at all? Thanks.
no you would need to be only 3ft tall to actually be able to look through it while riding.
There has been a hole in the market where earlier for example the original Honda Transalp filled a need. The need for a capable tourer, with good, easy handling even loaded with luggage for a lengthy tour and not too difficult to fix if a technical problem arose. If this bike is good enough then RE may well have made the unicorn. In a few years time we will know if that is the case. The start is promising!
I got the chance to ride the demo bike at the local dealer earlier this season.
I did not want to return it. Eventually though I felt I had better ride it back if somebody else was keen to try. Before I knew I had ridden it for around fifty + miles. I would probably have bought one if I had not bought a Scram 411 not so long time ago. I am not ready to let that bike go, -yet. 😊
Great review like always.It's there any chance in the near future to review the Moto Guzzi V7 Special by any chance?
Eventually
Probably my next bike, just waiting to see the bear 650 and what that has to offer. I do like trundling down a green lane when I can find them.😊 Agree, most manufacturers are way off the mark with what people actually want these days. I don't know why, they seem to have totally misread the market to me.
An insightful review; thanks.
As for the pillion/ top-box issue; if I wanted my bike to look like a pizza delivery service, I'd ride a scooter. A top-box is truly the most ugly and ungainly luggage solution known to man. Unless one has to deliver pizza. In this instance, I'd rather use a roll-top bag affixed to the top of the side cases; creating more space and comfort all round.
Pardon my rant about the hideousness of top-boxes 😂
I'm not into this type of bike but the roadster version, the Guerrilla is more to my taste these days.
I don’t know if you can still try, but the guys at Baxter cycle in Iowa discovered that if you let out the clutch without giving it any throttle, the 450 will rev enough to get you going, and then you can roll on the throttle. Kind of like driving a diesel truck.
Very true
Opened with a bang! 😮
Shame my local RE dealer is closing down , due to site rent/lease fees being hiked too silly money , as a test ride on one of these seems a must , I liked the scram 411 , just seemed a tad breathless , but there again it was a new hence tight engine . But the real kicker here is the pending long wait for the classic 650 appears to be all but over with sneak shots released on Faceache and other sites of 3 spotted on the cumbrian moors , DVLA number plate checks confirms details , with a likely launch date in November , now that`s got to be the acid test review RE v BSA , also your going to need a bigger garage to fit yet another must have bike in 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sit back, Relax and Enjoy the Ride🎉
Great review as usual….
I see the prices of nearly new Himalayans and Scrams have come down a good amount! 😁
Brilliant review, thank you
great balanced review 👍
I wish you could review the CF moto 450 mt, which seems the direct competition
Well now that is one way to start off a video.
Very good review but did you not park it on a slight slope on the left hand side . Even the RE engineers know it’s not right. I’ve a 411 and not convinced to upgrade. Such is life.
I've ordered a tubeless black one. Only downside, it won't be here until late March or early April. Here in Vermont we get winter so it isn't a huge trouble.