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This reassures me of one thing in particular: "Train yourself not to think by thinking ahead of yourself" This phrase means you must experience in the moment, to move your conscious decision making away from your actions; so that your aim becomes completely autonomous. This autonomy can only be achieved with experience in aiming and a high level of gamesense into practice (like theory crafting). With correct practice, you can prepare for all outcomes, thanks to your ability to segregate your thinking away from your actions in the present. This gives more room in your head for creative thought for clutches and powerful plays, while your muscle memory does the heavy lifting.
Veritassium has nice video on thinking process, you have to move from aiming with "Drew" to aiming with "Gun". If you know what i mean by this watch his video
It's funny but true I'm 53 year's old and i play better on my backup computer that's 60hz 1080p 27in 4ms, my main gaming pc is 144hz 1ms vg279q 144mhz 1ms 1080p ips monitor and i got a broken back so i got lot's of pain and don't sleep well.
The more I see videos about this guy the more I'm reminded of my "zone" moments. Sadly, I didn't realize it was it and slowly gone away because I can't polish it.
Lifting weights to train your CNS does improve reaction time by a lot from my experience like ~50ms, I'm 29 and I became quite slow during the lockdown by 235-250 on avg earlier I was lower than 190 all of this on a 60hz monitor. I wonder how a 144 or a 240 or even a 360hz monitor would do.
If you really want to improve your reaction time and reach flow states more consistently then the #1 technique I can recommend is meditation. The most important factor to reacting quickly is concentration and when you break that down, concentration is similar to flow state in that it's easiest to reach high states of it whilst sufficiently stimulated/motivated. Meditation is essentially training your mind to tolerate boredom, the entire philosophy behind mindfulness is to live fully in each moment, how that translates to gaming is that theoretically you can be at 100% alertness regardless of the external circumstance (whether it's a slow paced moment, an easy game, a hard game, etc.) When it comes down to it, the invariable rule to performance in the short and long term is to try your best all the time. Thus cultivating a strong work ethic, ability to concentrate, patience will improve your abilities in the short and long term. I'm not the best at outlining my thoughts, this was pretty sloppily written, but I am someone who went from being your typical ADHD kid dropping out of school to being at least respectable levels of attention span I can't recommend meditation enough.
I love seeing comprehensive information like this especially in the realm of Esports where hearsay and pseudoscience can sift its way to the top. Great video as always!
This gives me hope, I thought by the time I hit 28 I will have to stop trying to become a pro but if my reaction speed only slightly decreases im just going to keep going til im 45 hahaha
As someone who is 30, i dont feel that my reaction time has decreased significantly. But rather i think it impacts the concentration time span, which lead to ineffective practice/ shorter gaming sessions. Might be a good idea to look at that. As ultimately, you are what you practiced.
@@RonRamboKim I feel like that happens around the age of 14 due to going from a simple life to having to think and remember multiple things during the day. Last time I remember having laser beam focus like that was around that age. Just how I personally felt.
Dude all the contents you made is all i think before in my mind but no one make it but finally you made it for me I hope you can do a video about -the table height and esport table height -aggressive and passive awping -Mindset when playing game or how to control your emotional or mind thinking -monitor position / height / placement -how to go pro in cs how to proof your talent , how to join gaming company and get salary
Really well made video. You should look at Libet's volition experiments with subjects pressing a button (basically the brain shows signals 1 second before someone thinks they are making a decision). Also many motor responses in gaming probably don't involve the brain but the spinal cord as these are much faster and automatic. I'm no expert but I believe as you practice these spinal circuits are formed
Raw reactions times are not a metric which makes you good. I am 30 years old, my reaction time is between 150-160 ms. Yes, that is super fast. A lot faster than many pro gamers. Yet I get clicked away regularly in csgo. peaker advantage, crosshair placement, prediction and latency are FAAAR more important.
Awesome video, very comprehensive. To add further insight into this: 1. Maximum human reaction time is somewhere near 100ms. The olympic track and field organization disqualifies any athlete who "reacts" to the gun faster than 100ms. They test this by using pressure pads in the starting blocks. Keep in mind as well, this is also in response to an AUDITORY stimuli (the gun firing), so the real lower bound of VRT is likely somewhere further above. 2. Reaction time does NOT decrease with age necessarily. While this is true of the population at large, when it comes to competitive games the story is quite different. There are many studies that show, if tasks are practiced, then there is no decrease in reaction time with age. In fact, toward the mid-30's and 40's, choice reaction time can even significantly increase, as there are many times more repetitions in athletes of this age than in younger counterparts. For example, look at Tokido, Alex Valle, Roger Federer, Tom Brady, etc. 3. RAMBO, IT'S VIGILANCE xD
It all makes sense now. Sometimes, we test situations by ourselves without being aware of it, but once we're aware of it, everything comes together, I think. Great video! Thank you for sharing this.
Thanks for the caffeine dosage tip tho! Listened all along. Maybe you should also think about starting a podcast! Would be sick to learn some cs instead of listening to music.
Can you make a video on what differences there are between left and right-handed players? That would be pretty interesting as I'm left-handed myself and play with mouse on left side and arrow keys.
If your a kid who is under 18, it probably wont make a huge difference. That being said it will make a huge difference for adults. In my opinion diet/exercise is equally as important as sleep for us.
This is pretty much what I was looking for. No one told me this was just a summary of information, but I guess no one said otherwise so idk what I expected.
Just work to get fitter and stronger, its as simple as that. Its never too late to put yourself on the right path to success, no matter how old you are.
I noticed that my reaction time is way higher if i havent got enough sleep, i sometimes „train“ human benchmark just for fun. Normally i get around 160-180 ms average but when i‘m tired or somehow distracted i get more around 190-200 ms. But i also noticed the training factor because my rt decreased over time fairly fast. Maybe because i do the test relatively often like every two days or so. Great Video!
How do you handle mental setbacks? Like, "God I suck today", "My aim is off like usual" "Anything I do isn't right". I can have great days and 30/40 bomb and won't have any negative thoughts. Everything I do seems to be right and my aim would be on point. Then some days, usually lasting a lot longer than my good days, I will just have this mind set I can't get out of. Aim will be bad, I am a lot passive, slightly toxic towards people, map awareness sometimes off.
@@RonRamboKim I have a bad habit of grinding and not leaving the house for a week so this may be the problem. Sometimes I can't even focus on my crosshair when I play. What is a good routine? My team mates I'm grinding with are getting annoyed with me as I'm a 'complainer' when in all honesty I'm trying just to win. But trying to visualize in their shoes maybe I'm being a little toxic. What are some good habits to gain energy? Should I take more breaks within the day and force myself to leave the house> Would that really affect my performance and cognitive ability?
This video clearly took a lot of time and research. Thank you for making such a huge effort to put this together. I found it very interesting and helpful!
Hi! You should probably talk about the perfect pressure to be put on mouse while gaming. I tend to put alot of pressure which gives me more control over small movements but also is hectic for flicks and long mouse movement.
15:30 for me that really reminds me of when I peek an angle, lets say with the AWP, and you peek too wide and there's two enemies on the screen. Now you not only have to process the flicking but you have to choose which target you'll actually shoot. My reaction speed goes through the roof in those situations, and I think since I already know I'm bad at them I get instantly kind of nervous and that worsens things even further. Gotta train on staying calm.
Peppis Not only is it faster but it’s also more accurate and the muscle memory builds way faster than flicking to the left. Not sure if this is only for me but it significantly affects the angles I choose and the peeks I do
Love this kind of stuff. Should do a topic on performance enhancers. I know some gabaminergics with adrenergics really increase performance temporarily.
I love the effort and time you put into this, I feel that if you wrote what to say down and read off a paper since you tend to lose cohesion on trying to explain the details and information you're trying to get out making it very difficult to stay interested in what you're saying as it doesn't feel important or necessary to know.
Awesome video, man. It was entertaining and interesting. Your explanation was to the point, and the topics you choose are very interesting as well. Instant subscribe. Keep up the good work
I'm 41 I've been tracking mine for 20 years. Started in 20s and was in the 210ms now at 170-180ms. It's not getting faster it's just tech being faster in latency. It's not change at all in the last 10 years.
Just because your net reaction speed has increased due to increased tech, doesn't mean your base reaction speed hasn't decreased. Tech's latency has just outweighed the decrease you got from age by a large margin.
@@AlphosNZ Well the study only shows the average among people. There are a lot of dependent factors. For instance, reaction speed may lower with age due to a decrease in exercise or need for quick simple reaction times. Many people become less active as they age, but this isn't always the case. Perhaps being physically fit, or even practicing reactions through gaming can lower reaction time. Without fully reading the studies, I don't know their specific methodology and conclusions. However, I doubt a few studies are able to determine the cause of reaction speed decline. It's easy to assume that as we age, we simply react slower due to bodily decline. Yet, I've seen people in their 50s who are in much better physical condition than those in their 20s. These studies simply show that on average, reaction time goes up with age. And based on the slope of the data, it's not a steep change. There could be plenty of cases where the inverse holds true. Also, from a very quick glance at the sources, it would seem they didn't control for lifestyle (which is fine, can't get everything constant in real human studies). I wouldn't be surprised if the younger crowd had higher instances of participation in sports and gaming, which could train reaction time to be lower. But that's just a hypothesis.
@@philipfahy9658 Lifting weights to train your CNS does improve reaction time by a lot from my experience like ~50ms, I'm 29 and I became quite slow during the lockdown by 235-250 on avg earlier I was lower than 190 all of this on a 60hz monitor. I wonder how a 144 or a 240 or even a 360hz monitor would do.
Some good information. I'm glad you highlighted that we react to auditory stimuli faster than visual stimuli. So let me key you in on a little secret I've discovered. You can prime the nervous system to perform. Weightlifters use it to peak at competitions. They overwork the CNS with heavy weights, and then back off the week of the competition. Your nervous system super-compensates. For me I'm usually around 250ms, but after priming I get sub 200ms scores on click tests.
Hello, great research! I would just recommend for the video to use some of the data visualization from the articles similar to the end of the video to make the visuals more appealing.
I’m in my mid 20s, playing over a decade in various FPS games, competitively for almost 5 years. Protein is huge for concentration, in addition to various berries that stimulate brain health. Exercise is significant to consistent elevated reaction time, as well as releasing endorphins to help you feel and think more effectively. (Scump was a baseball pitcher for a lot of his youth which is why he had incredible reaction speed) Also, staying hydrated is a must, so always have a full water bottle nearby. Psychological factors are also important, especially when it comes to team chemistry and confidence in personal performance. Check out my Twitch @ E3TV!
I agree strongly with the exercise. By strengthening your ligaments (by developing the muscles to demand better bodily tissue), your body becomes a man of steel against the weathering of gaming, especially for long sessions, and preserving high level motor functionality as you age (so you don't grow obese and retire in your late 20's). Which is why I strongly suggest Esports athletes get into crossfit training, to get the most out of what an Esports athlete needs; Speed in your upper body and Endurance in your circulatory system (keeping your blood flowing in a still position to keep your arms feeling strong). I want to forge a bright future for my own health and performance for years to come. I'm only 19, but that's why I'm getting into bodybuilding. I want to show the world how serious Esports really is, instead of lazy nonsense at your computer desk.
ChaosKnight HD also, don’t waste a minute of your time associating with toxic players that are constantly trash talking. I personally am not a big trash talker, but after spending way too much time around those types of players , it ruined my mental game for a couple years. I’m still trying to get back to where I used to be in terms of confidence in gun fights because of this, and have come a long ways back, but it’s counterproductive to personally development. Even if they are incredible players, it’s not worth the negative impact long term. The guys I would play with were the ones that would take home cash from playoffs back in the day, on both GameBattles and UMG, when they used to offer monetary prizes on the TLs. It doesn’t matter how good they are if they’re toxic, you can always find players that are just as good if you take the time to search for them. Check out my Twitch sometime, it’s E3TV
Very informative video. I'm more curious to see how you feel personally. Compared to back in the day when we used to play Counter-Strike and I'm talking about when we had our WonIDs. I feel personally I'm a better gamer now than I was then, but just like in your other video about being consistent, that's what I suffer through right now. I'm 33 years old. I never thought about the seating position before. That is probably why I was wondering why my mouse felt heavier due to how much drag on my mouse. Anyways was always wondering what you and the rest of the team 3D crew was up to. Good to see that you're doing well is still participating in Esports! I miss the mIRC days.
I guess to elaborate that even though my reactions could be slightly slower, my positioning is much better because of the experience from the years of first person shooters.
Nice video Ron, i've a question tho. People usually says that some people have faster reaction times than others at birth. Is that true? How much is the difference? I think most of young people that claims to have slower reaction time is also because of a placebo effect. Thinking you're very slow at reacting will actually make you slower
2:10 what's interesting about that data is that the amount of people who have a reaction time of less than 190ms didn't really get lower with age.There's still a decent amount of 40-60 year olds that have below 190ms VRT. What's really making their average worse is the high amount of people with 250+ms VRT. This shows that it's not as simple as +0.5ms VRT per year.
2:10 I think the black line does not represent the average for each age group, but only the trend in the relationship between age of a person and their average reaction time for their age group.
The difference between ultra low latency mode vs low latency mode for csgo is so small and barely noticeable because we can achieve 100+ fps in the game (difference is negligible after 100fps) , and because the game isn't GPU bound. I think the ultra low latency mode was made for games that are gpu bound and games that got fps lower than 100 because, at this range, you can really feel the latency issues. I would say that you should keep away from it because it might introduce stutters to your gameplay (which we don't want). However, feel free to try this and see if you feel a difference. For me, based from my testing, the game barely felt any better and it made my game stutter more.
Ron Rambo Kim video was very good. I’ll be very surprised if you don’t blow up in views and subs over time. This shit is interesting and no one else does this.
If you're generally getting slower by 0.5 ms per year, I must've been a genetical freak at a younger age considering I average around 180 - 185ms at 27 years old. Or it's simply that people growing up with constantly practicing and working on reaction time doesn't degrade as fast as someone who doesn't train at all. There's also something to consider in these tests in that you generally have a much different reaction time in game than taking these tests, since the brain generally responds faster to patterns, i.e a character model faster than a background turning green or a target showing up.
It's 0,5 ms per year. Not 5ms? I know some people who have a 150ms at the age of 25. So you would not really have been a genetic freak. Do the math. 10 years ago at the age of (I know you're 29 now but still) 17 you would have had a reaction time of 170-175ms? I mean, thats good but nothing extraordinary.
Make breaks and drink enough water so your eyes dont get dry. And by making breaks i mean get off from your monitor. Blinking is a reflex you cant try to hold it, just blink if you have to.
ofcourse you could also lower your brightness on your monitor. Maybe you also want to get gaming glasses. I have them, but I dont like the yellowish color, i cant see player models that good because of it.
Lifting weights to train your CNS does improve reaction time by a lot from my experience like ~50ms, I'm 29 and I became quite slow during the lockdown by 235-250 on avg earlier I was lower than 190 all of this on a 60hz monitor. I wonder how a 144 or a 240 or even a 360hz monitor would do.
I went from 190 milliseconds on 120 hz to around 170 with a 240hz monitor. Not the hugest difference but it will most likely vary depending on the person and what refresh rate they’re upgrading to.
In this game, performance decline has more to do with the meta of the game changing than anything else. The slight mechanical changes and the habits players pick up with years and years playing the game are what cause the performance drop as you get closer to 30. Being burn out by the game and the unwillingness to reinvent your game and especially your mechanics is why a lot of legends don't have it anymore. It has nothing to do with reaction times. If anything, going through a million different situations can actually have a positive impact on your reflexes as you'll predict certain scenarios and react faster.
Agreed. I think the #1 factor professionals retire is they get burnt out and lose their passion to practice, but I disagree that reaction time does have a factor in the decline of a gamer as they get older. Many fights are won or lost because of a few milliseconds
@@RonRamboKim Personally, I don't think age becomes a factor in CS if you're under your low 30s. If Olympians keep beating records when they reach 30 and reflexes are everything in their sport (depending on the sport, of course), why would it negatively affect your reaction time at such young age. Now, I don't want you to take it as gospel. I'd like to see a few studies on it. I see Street Fighter veterans have ridiculous reaction times into their 30s, especially the Japanese who play Guilty Gear. It's insane. If I read correctly, there's a 10ms difference between the age of 18 and 32. Do you think 0,01 seconds is significant?
Just curious, my reaction time is anywhere from 155 to 185 with the average at around 175 (fatigue kicks in after a few tests) is that considered generally good? BTW youre Ron is a f*ckin legend most pros have mad respect for you dude, keep it up.
Can ideal sleep duration vary from person to person or is it 8 hours for everyone? I seem to feel more alert after waking from ~6 hours sleep but haven't tested whether I actually perform better in reaction tests.
Just a thought - In participants over 45 years old, I wonder how much they've used a mouse in a gaming context? I don't think we will be able to see the true reaction time decrease (for gaming) until someone like you hits 45-50. I don't doubt that reaction time decreases with age, but I think it also has a little bit to do with the individual being tested and their familiarity with a mouse/history with gaming.
I respectfully disagree with your interpretation of Hick's law. I do believe it has more to do with hostage-enemy recognition or when friendly fire is enabled. The sheer existence of this choice can throw the player off and add some time to their reaction speeds. Just yesterday I saw a really good player headshot his teammate in MW because after 6 months of WZ have was conditioned to shoot anyone that's not on his minimap, saving him milliseconds at a time. That being said learning curve is a real thing, the physics, visuals work differently in different games and one can get life-or-death cutting edge by practicing a particular game or even a particular part of said game (cf. landing spots). Current Warzone #1 iron spent months practicing the latest CoD physics in MW just so he could hit the ground running and climb the ranks as soon as the game would come out.
Im in my late 50s, and am constantly getting “flick shot” killed by younger players. My reaction time has obviously decreased as I’ve gotten older. What I’m trying to figure out is how can I compensate so i can close the gap?
Could you please list the resources you've used? Not saying I don't believe you, just harder for my teacher to find it credible (which is a shame!). Would love it for future reference! (pun not intentional)
If you want to utilize the full 240Hz on the monitor, your computer will need to run 240+ FPS constantly. Definitely dont want to cheap out on a computer parts (CPU, GPU, Ram, Cooling)
How is my reaction time affected when I drink sometimes alcohol or smoke some cigarettes. Lets say every second weekend. Will my reaction time increase or stay the same?
Alcohol and nicotine consumption destroys your nerves, which is the string-like things that sends information from your brain to the rest of your body and vice-versa. This means that smoking or drinking alcohol definitely slows down your reaction time. (more or less depending on how much you smoke or drink ofc)
Alcohol doesn't destroy nerves my friend, only serious long term alcoholism will have that affect. The idea alcohol destroys brain cells is also a myth. consumption days before playing will have almost no effect I would say however consumption during will have large effect. Smoking cigarettes will probs do nothing
In general health correlates strongly with brain function of all kinds, including reaction time. If you want to be the best possible player, you need to be in the best possible condition. Routinely poisoning yourself with cigarettes and alcohol is not conducive to this goal. Cigarettes are probably "better" for your reaction time than alcohol, because alcohol has long-term depressant effects than nicotine, which can have some "stimulant" properties.
I have heard people say nicotine is a nootropic (improves cognitive function - drugs such as modafinil and perhaps ritalin are nootropic) and many Swedish pros take snus during playing. Whatever very fractional benefits it may give you is surely outweighed by the horrific effect on your health
when i first tested my reaction time(Human Benchmark) it was 250~260 but now after 2 years im 15 and my reaction time is 160~170. HOW !!!! Other people says reaction time is highly genetic related and one cannot improve reaction time more than 10%
Agent Of EZIC i think it was a combination of both, i bought a 144hz monitor and i was also bullied a lot in high school, now im about to start the third year of college and no ones really annoying me so yea, probably was that.
He said in the video that your brain registers the thing on screen but can't click fast enough if you don't have the motor skills so that might be why it's better now after practicing
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This reassures me of one thing in particular:
"Train yourself not to think by thinking ahead of yourself"
This phrase means you must experience in the moment, to move your conscious decision making away from your actions; so that your aim becomes completely autonomous. This autonomy can only be achieved with experience in aiming and a high level of gamesense into practice (like theory crafting). With correct practice, you can prepare for all outcomes, thanks to your ability to segregate your thinking away from your actions in the present. This gives more room in your head for creative thought for clutches and powerful plays, while your muscle memory does the heavy lifting.
Thanks for your input, well thought out!
So in other words.... train yourself to think ahead....
Veritassium has nice video on thinking process, you have to move from aiming with "Drew" to aiming with "Gun". If you know what i mean by this watch his video
@@Neuroszima here is the video mentioned above, it is very interesting
ua-cam.com/video/UBVV8pch1dM/v-deo.html
That sounds just like someone who's getting ahead of himself
this video is a goldmine, I could talk about this for hours. I was having a conversation with my friends about reaction times just a few days ago.
Im glad you enjoyed it
It's funny but true I'm 53 year's old and i play better on my backup computer that's 60hz 1080p 27in 4ms, my main gaming pc is 144hz 1ms vg279q 144mhz 1ms 1080p ips monitor and i got a broken back so i got lot's of pain and don't sleep well.
The more I see videos about this guy the more I'm reminded of my "zone" moments. Sadly, I didn't realize it was it and slowly gone away because I can't polish it.
Lifting weights to train your CNS does improve reaction time by a lot from my experience like ~50ms, I'm 29 and I became quite slow during the lockdown by 235-250 on avg earlier I was lower than 190 all of this on a 60hz monitor. I wonder how a 144 or a 240 or even a 360hz monitor would do.
i have never been so amazed by how a person like you get so detailed in everything about gaming. keep on going!
Thank you 🙂
Make maybe a video about xantares and his mouse acceleration 🤔What do you think about mouse acceleration?
that would be interesting
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If you really want to improve your reaction time and reach flow states more consistently then the #1 technique I can recommend is meditation. The most important factor to reacting quickly is concentration and when you break that down, concentration is similar to flow state in that it's easiest to reach high states of it whilst sufficiently stimulated/motivated. Meditation is essentially training your mind to tolerate boredom, the entire philosophy behind mindfulness is to live fully in each moment, how that translates to gaming is that theoretically you can be at 100% alertness regardless of the external circumstance (whether it's a slow paced moment, an easy game, a hard game, etc.) When it comes down to it, the invariable rule to performance in the short and long term is to try your best all the time. Thus cultivating a strong work ethic, ability to concentrate, patience will improve your abilities in the short and long term. I'm not the best at outlining my thoughts, this was pretty sloppily written, but I am someone who went from being your typical ADHD kid dropping out of school to being at least respectable levels of attention span I can't recommend meditation enough.
How do I meditate correctly? If your still around on UA-cam lmk thx
I don't understand why this doesn't have more views and exposure, this content is gold
I appreciate it 👍
I love seeing comprehensive information like this especially in the realm of Esports where hearsay and pseudoscience can sift its way to the top. Great video as always!
Thank you :]
When you said simple reaction time i heard s1mple reaction time lol
*s1mple erection time*
This gives me hope, I thought by the time I hit 28 I will have to stop trying to become a pro but if my reaction speed only slightly decreases im just going to keep going til im 45 hahaha
:P
As someone who is 30, i dont feel that my reaction time has decreased significantly. But rather i think it impacts the concentration time span, which lead to ineffective practice/ shorter gaming sessions. Might be a good idea to look at that. As ultimately, you are what you practiced.
This applies me too. I feel like I don't have the sustained focus from second to second as I used to
@@RonRamboKim I feel like that happens around the age of 14 due to going from a simple life to having to think and remember multiple things during the day. Last time I remember having laser beam focus like that was around that age. Just how I personally felt.
@@Remzly i dont only mean amount of time needed to get focused, also the amount of time you can stay focused without feeling tired.
Dude all the contents you made is all i think before in my mind but no one make it but finally you made it for me
I hope you can do a video about
-the table height and esport table height
-aggressive and passive awping
-Mindset when playing game or how to control your emotional or mind thinking
-monitor position / height / placement
-how to go pro in cs how to proof your talent , how to join gaming company and get salary
Really well made video.
You should look at Libet's volition experiments with subjects pressing a button (basically the brain shows signals 1 second before someone thinks they are making a decision).
Also many motor responses in gaming probably don't involve the brain but the spinal cord as these are much faster and automatic. I'm no expert but I believe as you practice these spinal circuits are formed
Raw reactions times are not a metric which makes you good. I am 30 years old, my reaction time is between 150-160 ms. Yes, that is super fast. A lot faster than many pro gamers. Yet I get clicked away regularly in csgo. peaker advantage, crosshair placement, prediction and latency are FAAAR more important.
Awesome video, very comprehensive.
To add further insight into this:
1. Maximum human reaction time is somewhere near 100ms. The olympic track and field organization disqualifies any athlete who "reacts" to the gun faster than 100ms. They test this by using pressure pads in the starting blocks. Keep in mind as well, this is also in response to an AUDITORY stimuli (the gun firing), so the real lower bound of VRT is likely somewhere further above.
2. Reaction time does NOT decrease with age necessarily. While this is true of the population at large, when it comes to competitive games the story is quite different. There are many studies that show, if tasks are practiced, then there is no decrease in reaction time with age. In fact, toward the mid-30's and 40's, choice reaction time can even significantly increase, as there are many times more repetitions in athletes of this age than in younger counterparts. For example, look at Tokido, Alex Valle, Roger Federer, Tom Brady, etc.
3. RAMBO, IT'S VIGILANCE xD
Thank you for the extra info!
It all makes sense now. Sometimes, we test situations by ourselves without being aware of it, but once we're aware of it, everything comes together, I think. Great video! Thank you for sharing this.
Thanks for the caffeine dosage tip tho! Listened all along. Maybe you should also think about starting a podcast! Would be sick to learn some cs instead of listening to music.
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Love how you add your research into these videos. I'm left-handed and my flicks to the right have always been better than flicks to the left. :P
Can you make a video on what differences there are between left and right-handed players? That would be pretty interesting as I'm left-handed myself and play with mouse on left side and arrow keys.
Only thing I felt was missing is how diet and excercise might affect things. Good vid!
Thats what on my mind too
If your a kid who is under 18, it probably wont make a huge difference. That being said it will make a huge difference for adults. In my opinion diet/exercise is equally as important as sleep for us.
This is pretty much what I was looking for. No one told me this was just a summary of information, but I guess no one said otherwise so idk what I expected.
Just work to get fitter and stronger, its as simple as that. Its never too late to put yourself on the right path to success, no matter how old you are.
@@chaosknighthd3138 facts, it is way harder to start old
I noticed that my reaction time is way higher if i havent got enough sleep, i sometimes „train“ human benchmark just for fun. Normally i get around 160-180 ms average but when i‘m tired or somehow distracted i get more around 190-200 ms. But i also noticed the training factor because my rt decreased over time fairly fast. Maybe because i do the test relatively often like every two days or so. Great Video!
Thanks for the tip. I wasn't gaming for a few months and my RT is 210-250. Gotta train :)
Reading peoples 200ms makes my ego boost hard at 140
doni same mine is 130-150 and I feel like that’s still really slow
@@Skrillz mine is from 40-50 i am under 17 years and I am ambidexterous so I have comparitively more neurons
How do you handle mental setbacks? Like, "God I suck today", "My aim is off like usual" "Anything I do isn't right". I can have great days and 30/40 bomb and won't have any negative thoughts. Everything I do seems to be right and my aim would be on point. Then some days, usually lasting a lot longer than my good days, I will just have this mind set I can't get out of. Aim will be bad, I am a lot passive, slightly toxic towards people, map awareness sometimes off.
I think the quality of sleep, mood, mental energy available, and ability to focus all play a factor
@@RonRamboKim I have a bad habit of grinding and not leaving the house for a week so this may be the problem. Sometimes I can't even focus on my crosshair when I play. What is a good routine? My team mates I'm grinding with are getting annoyed with me as I'm a 'complainer' when in all honesty I'm trying just to win. But trying to visualize in their shoes maybe I'm being a little toxic. What are some good habits to gain energy? Should I take more breaks within the day and force myself to leave the house> Would that really affect my performance and cognitive ability?
Awesome video Rambo. Thanks for sharing all of that research pretty interesting
You're welcome Jeff
This video clearly took a lot of time and research. Thank you for making such a huge effort to put this together. I found it very interesting and helpful!
These videos should be a research essay or something, it's too useful.
:P
Hi! You should probably talk about the perfect pressure to be put on mouse while gaming. I tend to put alot of pressure which gives me more control over small movements but also is hectic for flicks and long mouse movement.
Good point
@@RonRamboKim glad I got attention from you. Looking forward if you make a video on it! 👍
15:30 for me that really reminds me of when I peek an angle, lets say with the AWP, and you peek too wide and there's two enemies on the screen. Now you not only have to process the flicking but you have to choose which target you'll actually shoot. My reaction speed goes through the roof in those situations, and I think since I already know I'm bad at them I get instantly kind of nervous and that worsens things even further. Gotta train on staying calm.
Flick to the left if you are right handed haha apparently it's faster than right according to this video
Peppis Not only is it faster but it’s also more accurate and the muscle memory builds way faster than flicking to the left. Not sure if this is only for me but it significantly affects the angles I choose and the peeks I do
@@xegaplaysgfx3067 what?
loved the bit about different eyes controlling different hemispheres, very well made video
Thank you Mr Quackers
5:28 Right Hand Peek Effect ? This is effective information all throughout.
gotta love those Lakey Inspired tracks in the background
Love this kind of stuff. Should do a topic on performance enhancers.
I know some gabaminergics with adrenergics really increase performance temporarily.
I love the effort and time you put into this, I feel that if you wrote what to say down and read off a paper since you tend to lose cohesion on trying to explain the details and information you're trying to get out making it very difficult to stay interested in what you're saying as it doesn't feel important or necessary to know.
This is really interesting not gonna lie.
Awesome video, man. It was entertaining and interesting. Your explanation was to the point, and the topics you choose are very interesting as well. Instant subscribe. Keep up the good work
Thank you Hossein :)
I'm 41 I've been tracking mine for 20 years. Started in 20s and was in the 210ms now at 170-180ms. It's not getting faster it's just tech being faster in latency. It's not change at all in the last 10 years.
Or we could listen to these peer-reviewed scientific studies :)
Just because your net reaction speed has increased due to increased tech, doesn't mean your base reaction speed hasn't decreased. Tech's latency has just outweighed the decrease you got from age by a large margin.
@@AlphosNZ Well the study only shows the average among people. There are a lot of dependent factors. For instance, reaction speed may lower with age due to a decrease in exercise or need for quick simple reaction times. Many people become less active as they age, but this isn't always the case. Perhaps being physically fit, or even practicing reactions through gaming can lower reaction time. Without fully reading the studies, I don't know their specific methodology and conclusions. However, I doubt a few studies are able to determine the cause of reaction speed decline. It's easy to assume that as we age, we simply react slower due to bodily decline. Yet, I've seen people in their 50s who are in much better physical condition than those in their 20s. These studies simply show that on average, reaction time goes up with age. And based on the slope of the data, it's not a steep change. There could be plenty of cases where the inverse holds true.
Also, from a very quick glance at the sources, it would seem they didn't control for lifestyle (which is fine, can't get everything constant in real human studies). I wouldn't be surprised if the younger crowd had higher instances of participation in sports and gaming, which could train reaction time to be lower. But that's just a hypothesis.
@@philipfahy9658 Lifting weights to train your CNS does improve reaction time by a lot from my experience like ~50ms, I'm 29 and I became quite slow during the lockdown by 235-250 on avg earlier I was lower than 190 all of this on a 60hz monitor. I wonder how a 144 or a 240 or even a 360hz monitor would do.
Some good information. I'm glad you highlighted that we react to auditory stimuli faster than visual stimuli. So let me key you in on a little secret I've discovered. You can prime the nervous system to perform. Weightlifters use it to peak at competitions. They overwork the CNS with heavy weights, and then back off the week of the competition. Your nervous system super-compensates. For me I'm usually around 250ms, but after priming I get sub 200ms scores on click tests.
How do you apply this priming technique to reaction speed?
Hello, great research! I would just recommend for the video to use some of the data visualization from the articles similar to the end of the video to make the visuals more appealing.
Nice video! In your research, did you find that height significantly impacted reaction time?
I did not
Quiet eye is something I've been reading about a lot in sports literature. Would love to see you explain ot as applied to CS
I’m in my mid 20s, playing over a decade in various FPS games, competitively for almost 5 years. Protein is huge for concentration, in addition to various berries that stimulate brain health. Exercise is significant to consistent elevated reaction time, as well as releasing endorphins to help you feel and think more effectively. (Scump was a baseball pitcher for a lot of his youth which is why he had incredible reaction speed)
Also, staying hydrated is a must, so always have a full water bottle nearby.
Psychological factors are also important, especially when it comes to team chemistry and confidence in personal performance.
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I agree strongly with the exercise. By strengthening your ligaments (by developing the muscles to demand better bodily tissue), your body becomes a man of steel against the weathering of gaming, especially for long sessions, and preserving high level motor functionality as you age (so you don't grow obese and retire in your late 20's).
Which is why I strongly suggest Esports athletes get into crossfit training, to get the most out of what an Esports athlete needs; Speed in your upper body and Endurance in your circulatory system (keeping your blood flowing in a still position to keep your arms feeling strong). I want to forge a bright future for my own health and performance for years to come.
I'm only 19, but that's why I'm getting into bodybuilding. I want to show the world how serious Esports really is, instead of lazy nonsense at your computer desk.
ChaosKnight HD also, don’t waste a minute of your time associating with toxic players that are constantly trash talking. I personally am not a big trash talker, but after spending way too much time around those types of players , it ruined my mental game for a couple years. I’m still trying to get back to where I used to be in terms of confidence in gun fights because of this, and have come a long ways back, but it’s counterproductive to personally development. Even if they are incredible players, it’s not worth the negative impact long term. The guys I would play with were the ones that would take home cash from playoffs back in the day, on both GameBattles and UMG, when they used to offer monetary prizes on the TLs.
It doesn’t matter how good they are if they’re toxic, you can always find players that are just as good if you take the time to search for them.
Check out my Twitch sometime, it’s E3TV
My skills have improved A LOT since I subbed I just want to say thank you and great work👍
Great to hear :D
Really informative video about gaming. Nice video Kim.Your every content is so much unique & helpful.
This is the best channel on yt
Ty!
Very informative video. I'm more curious to see how you feel personally. Compared to back in the day when we used to play Counter-Strike and I'm talking about when we had our WonIDs. I feel personally I'm a better gamer now than I was then, but just like in your other video about being consistent, that's what I suffer through right now. I'm 33 years old.
I never thought about the seating position before. That is probably why I was wondering why my mouse felt heavier due to how much drag on my mouse.
Anyways was always wondering what you and the rest of the team 3D crew was up to. Good to see that you're doing well is still participating in Esports!
I miss the mIRC days.
I guess to elaborate that even though my reactions could be slightly slower, my positioning is much better because of the experience from the years of first person shooters.
Nice video Ron, i've a question tho. People usually says that some people have faster reaction times than others at birth. Is that true? How much is the difference? I think most of young people that claims to have slower reaction time is also because of a placebo effect. Thinking you're very slow at reacting will actually make you slower
I'm not exactly sure, but I would say that genetics does have an influence on reaction speed
Been looking for this. Thank you so much.
It has been many years my friend the days of team 3d the kings of na glad to know you are still good man
Thank you Gabriel
I'd love more vids on how to improve your reaction time
U should talk about resolutions.
+1 for resolution
Can you make a video about different peek styles?
TYVM Ron!
Very informative and interesting. Thank you for your research and time.
2:10 what's interesting about that data is that the amount of people who have a reaction time of less than 190ms didn't really get lower with age.There's still a decent amount of 40-60 year olds that have below 190ms VRT. What's really making their average worse is the high amount of people with 250+ms VRT.
This shows that it's not as simple as +0.5ms VRT per year.
2:10 I think the black line does not represent the average for each age group, but only the trend in the relationship between age of a person and their average reaction time for their age group.
Hello what u think about Nvidia new Low Latency Mode is it good for cs go did u tested it already ?
The difference between ultra low latency mode vs low latency mode for csgo is so small and barely noticeable because we can achieve 100+ fps in the game (difference is negligible after 100fps) , and because the game isn't GPU bound. I think the ultra low latency mode was made for games that are gpu bound and games that got fps lower than 100 because, at this range, you can really feel the latency issues.
I would say that you should keep away from it because it might introduce stutters to your gameplay (which we don't want). However, feel free to try this and see if you feel a difference. For me, based from my testing, the game barely felt any better and it made my game stutter more.
I really like this kind of video. Thanks!
Great video as always rambo
Thank you :)
This was the most entertaining video ive seen from you! Maybe im a big nerd, but very useful.
hehe, thanks Marc
Ron Rambo Kim video was very good. I’ll be very surprised if you don’t blow up in views and subs over time. This shit is interesting and no one else does this.
Thank you Solo
Great video. Lots of information. Thanks for making it
You bet!
This is some nice research.
indeed you did a very good job of explaining all those things, and also thanks to your research work
Thanks for watching :)
If you're generally getting slower by 0.5 ms per year, I must've been a genetical freak at a younger age considering I average around 180 - 185ms at 27 years old.
Or it's simply that people growing up with constantly practicing and working on reaction time doesn't degrade as fast as someone who doesn't train at all.
There's also something to consider in these tests in that you generally have a much different reaction time in game than taking these tests, since the brain generally responds faster to patterns, i.e a character model faster than a background turning green or a target showing up.
The same applies for me too then! We are beasts! LeL
Great point
Thats very Good Speed i have 172ms and im 19.
It's 0,5 ms per year. Not 5ms? I know some people who have a 150ms at the age of 25. So you would not really have been a genetic freak. Do the math. 10 years ago at the age of (I know you're 29 now but still) 17 you would have had a reaction time of 170-175ms? I mean, thats good but nothing extraordinary.
Could you do a video on how to keep your eyes open longer? I find myself blinking a lot and it leads to me dying quite a bit
Make breaks and drink enough water so your eyes dont get dry. And by making breaks i mean get off from your monitor. Blinking is a reflex you cant try to hold it, just blink if you have to.
Enough sleep and staying hydrated should be priority. You may want to look into supplments or eye drops if you have chronic dry eyes
ofcourse you could also lower your brightness on your monitor. Maybe you also want to get gaming glasses. I have them, but I dont like the yellowish color, i cant see player models that good because of it.
@@silsus7876 you are doctor yes because you have information that is good my friend
@@gabrielcurras8327 men I am Pro GAMER
Great research and videos, keep it up man :)
Thanks Dan
Lifting weights to train your CNS does improve reaction time by a lot from my experience like ~50ms, I'm 29 and I became quite slow during the lockdown by 235-250 on avg earlier I was lower than 190 all of this on a 60hz monitor. I wonder how a 144 or a 240 or even a 360hz monitor would do.
I went from 190 milliseconds on 120 hz to around 170 with a 240hz monitor. Not the hugest difference but it will most likely vary depending on the person and what refresh rate they’re upgrading to.
Thanks this was a fascinating watch.
In this game, performance decline has more to do with the meta of the game changing than anything else. The slight mechanical changes and the habits players pick up with years and years playing the game are what cause the performance drop as you get closer to 30. Being burn out by the game and the unwillingness to reinvent your game and especially your mechanics is why a lot of legends don't have it anymore. It has nothing to do with reaction times. If anything, going through a million different situations can actually have a positive impact on your reflexes as you'll predict certain scenarios and react faster.
Agreed. I think the #1 factor professionals retire is they get burnt out and lose their passion to practice, but I disagree that reaction time does have a factor in the decline of a gamer as they get older. Many fights are won or lost because of a few milliseconds
@@RonRamboKim Personally, I don't think age becomes a factor in CS if you're under your low 30s. If Olympians keep beating records when they reach 30 and reflexes are everything in their sport (depending on the sport, of course), why would it negatively affect your reaction time at such young age. Now, I don't want you to take it as gospel. I'd like to see a few studies on it. I see Street Fighter veterans have ridiculous reaction times into their 30s, especially the Japanese who play Guilty Gear. It's insane.
If I read correctly, there's a 10ms difference between the age of 18 and 32. Do you think 0,01 seconds is significant?
Awesome awrsome video.
Thx man great info
I look forward to seeing what else your channel has
Recently discovered your channel, great content!
Great video! Thanks Ron
thank you for all the help.
You're welcome Alex :D
Just curious, my reaction time is anywhere from 155 to 185 with the average at around 175 (fatigue kicks in after a few tests) is that considered generally good? BTW youre Ron is a f*ckin legend most pros have mad respect for you dude, keep it up.
BTW Im 29 so Im pretty old lol
Found my answer, Im better than some pros, namely s1mple on a bad day or xqc on a good day lol
In your opinion, what is the maximum age limit to become a professional player? I am 27 old and wondering if it is not too late
I dont think there is a maximum age limit TBH. I think it really depends on hunger to practice
Will caffeine still work if you have a regular sleep (8 hrs) or does it not make any difference.
Yes it does
Great vid dude 👌
Thank you~
You are awesome! I loved this video you earned a sub. I’m attempting to go pro on fortnite and this is going to help me out a bunch🙏
Can ideal sleep duration vary from person to person or is it 8 hours for everyone? I seem to feel more alert after waking from ~6 hours sleep but haven't tested whether I actually perform better in reaction tests.
Great vid
Thank you Nile
Most of this is agreeable, apart from the IQ part.
Just a thought - In participants over 45 years old, I wonder how much they've used a mouse in a gaming context? I don't think we will be able to see the true reaction time decrease (for gaming) until someone like you hits 45-50. I don't doubt that reaction time decreases with age, but I think it also has a little bit to do with the individual being tested and their familiarity with a mouse/history with gaming.
Agreed. We'll see more gaming related research as the first generation grows through
Fantastic and accurate as always! Thanks, Rambo!
Thank little j0e :)
Please make the photos larger
I respectfully disagree with your interpretation of Hick's law.
I do believe it has more to do with hostage-enemy recognition or when friendly fire is enabled. The sheer existence of this choice can throw the player off and add some time to their reaction speeds.
Just yesterday I saw a really good player headshot his teammate in MW because after 6 months of WZ have was conditioned to shoot anyone that's not on his minimap, saving him milliseconds at a time.
That being said learning curve is a real thing, the physics, visuals work differently in different games and one can get life-or-death cutting edge by practicing a particular game or even a particular part of said game (cf. landing spots). Current Warzone #1 iron spent months practicing the latest CoD physics in MW just so he could hit the ground running and climb the ranks as soon as the game would come out.
I made sure i did everything I had to do today. Well fed, stoned, posted on my bed. Hell yeah baby we ready to learn. 18 minutes fuck yeah
Haha
Im in my late 50s, and am constantly getting “flick shot” killed by younger players. My reaction time has obviously decreased as I’ve gotten older. What I’m trying to figure out is how can I compensate so i can close the gap?
positioning, outplay them
@@wermiswermis4392 thanks. That's another area I'm trying to learn but am having slow progress
Age related slowing, at which year does it starts ?
The research I looked at started at 18
Could you please list the resources you've used? Not saying I don't believe you, just harder for my teacher to find it credible (which is a shame!). Would love it for future reference! (pun not intentional)
I added resources in description box
Thanks for this!
I’m going to buy a new mouse. What do you think I should get? I play palm/ claw. I can’t decide between the zowie ec2-a or glorious model o
I havent tried the Glorious model, but I've always been a fan of zowie mice
Ron Rambo Kim okay. I’ve ordered the ec2-a as I know a lot of pros in cs go use it and have wanted to try it out for a while. Also, good vid!
Fantastic video but I ask that you do not add any background music! They get really annoying. Otherwise it was brilliant.
Thank you
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Thank You for this video!
My pleasure!
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Thanks!
Which hardware should I get to play CS: GO with 240 Hz?
I am really scared to buy to cheap stuff, because it its wasted then. pls help
If you want to utilize the full 240Hz on the monitor, your computer will need to run 240+ FPS constantly. Definitely dont want to cheap out on a computer parts (CPU, GPU, Ram, Cooling)
Dude you should do podcasts
How is my reaction time affected when I drink sometimes alcohol or smoke some cigarettes. Lets say every second weekend. Will my reaction time increase or stay the same?
Alcohol and nicotine consumption destroys your nerves, which is the string-like things that sends information from your brain to the rest of your body and vice-versa. This means that smoking or drinking alcohol definitely slows down your reaction time. (more or less depending on how much you smoke or drink ofc)
Alcohol doesn't destroy nerves my friend, only serious long term alcoholism will have that affect. The idea alcohol destroys brain cells is also a myth. consumption days before playing will have almost no effect I would say however consumption during will have large effect. Smoking cigarettes will probs do nothing
In general health correlates strongly with brain function of all kinds, including reaction time. If you want to be the best possible player, you need to be in the best possible condition. Routinely poisoning yourself with cigarettes and alcohol is not conducive to this goal.
Cigarettes are probably "better" for your reaction time than alcohol, because alcohol has long-term depressant effects than nicotine, which can have some "stimulant" properties.
I have heard people say nicotine is a nootropic (improves cognitive function - drugs such as modafinil and perhaps ritalin are nootropic) and many Swedish pros take snus during playing.
Whatever very fractional benefits it may give you is surely outweighed by the horrific effect on your health
@@michaelhoubart7040 Nicotine is a literal nerve poison bruh...
when i first tested my reaction time(Human Benchmark) it was 250~260 but now after 2 years im 15 and my reaction time is 160~170. HOW !!!! Other people says reaction time is highly genetic related and one cannot improve reaction time more than 10%
Niloy Ck i improved mine from 300ms to 180-220ms
If you bought 144 hz monitor during these two years, this is the reason of your good reaction time
Agent Of EZIC i think it was a combination of both, i bought a 144hz monitor and i was also bullied a lot in high school, now im about to start the third year of college and no ones really annoying me so yea, probably was that.
He said in the video that your brain registers the thing on screen but can't click fast enough if you don't have the motor skills so that might be why it's better now after practicing
What about prescription drugs like Adderall? We have heard rumors of abuse in Esports
Julian I agree as someone who has used it to get an advantage many times it doesn’t even help just makes you miss shots from being shaky
Exiting B don’t shoot
Oh shit... I should sleep now!! 😅
Jeff nipard of gaming
My average reaction time is 147. Am I not human or what?
mine is 134
i got 2nd place in aimlabs today for audio detection time with GPX mouse I'm sure with a faster mouse easy 1st place