What Makes The Never Meant Riff Special? - American Football

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    Hey, Steve here. In this video, I break down what I believe makes the intro progression in the iconic American Football song Never Meant rather special.
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  • @LetsTalkAboutMathRock
    @LetsTalkAboutMathRock  6 місяців тому +4

    Start learning Math Rock today with my Math Rock Essentials eBook: A Guitarist's Guide To Learning Math Rock 👉bit.ly/4eV2Elp

  • @imranfird
    @imranfird 2 роки тому +362

    Haha funny emo house

  • @BURNANNATOR
    @BURNANNATOR 2 роки тому +151

    Sometimes we have to ask ourselves is Steve is doing well? Hope he is.

    • @LetsTalkAboutMathRock
      @LetsTalkAboutMathRock  2 роки тому +75

      No one ever asks 😭 just kiddin' I'm am indeed doing well most days 😵

  • @brendanrice1018
    @brendanrice1018 2 роки тому +78

    This is definitely the song that got me into Midwest emo and math rock

    • @pookachu64
      @pookachu64 10 місяців тому +1

      Along with a lot of people!

  • @hoagietime1
    @hoagietime1 3 місяці тому +6

    Would love to see you break down Algernon Cadwaller spit fountain, cause there is a lot going on there

  • @KerryFairbanks
    @KerryFairbanks 2 роки тому +18

    When I got into the genre what I noticed was all the legato sliding up and down strings which I think lends itself to the sound and this riff showcases it.

  • @wizzybizzy4309
    @wizzybizzy4309 2 роки тому +15

    this was the first math rock song i ever listened to and hearing a complete breakdown makes me super happy! lovely explanation

  • @metametapost931
    @metametapost931 2 роки тому +5

    OMG You have a new tele!
    It is sooooo nice

  • @kelkiiii
    @kelkiiii 2 роки тому +47

    this was awesome, thanks Steve. could you do an analysis for "Welcome to..." by Origami Angel? I'm always impressed by their song writing. lots of interesting harmonic choices throughout their songs that keep the momentum up and the rhythm change ups give room for several awesome grooves in one track

    • @placeholderband19
      @placeholderband19 Рік тому +4

      Or just that entire album. The musical call backs throughout are crazy

    • @kelkiiii
      @kelkiiii Рік тому

      @@placeholderband19 yeah, they went absolutely insane on it. They're amazing songwriters. Perhaps my favorite

  • @nothim7437
    @nothim7437 Рік тому +3

    I really love these analysis type videos! More like this brother

  • @_widas_
    @_widas_ 2 роки тому +5

    that new guitar is gorgeous

  • @TheJuicyTangerine
    @TheJuicyTangerine 2 роки тому +10

    that font you used for the chord names is really cool! Wonder what font that is

    • @LetsTalkAboutMathRock
      @LetsTalkAboutMathRock  2 роки тому +2

      I think it's called theLEFT. Can't remember exactly, kind of looks like comic sans but less cheesy

  • @MISTER_CEO
    @MISTER_CEO 2 роки тому +4

    These videos are the best, always excited to see another

  • @samhenderson4414
    @samhenderson4414 2 роки тому +1

    Love this channel, keep it up

  • @ethanbarnes7163
    @ethanbarnes7163 9 місяців тому +4

    Glad I finally found the emo Rick Beato

  • @chrisbroome6423
    @chrisbroome6423 2 роки тому +18

    I think one of these episodes would be really well done with Hot Mulligan's Green Squirrel in Prettyy Bad Shape, the intro has a really fun part that outlines its progression and has a fun melody, and then later gets brought back with a 2nd guitar on top. Great video as always!

  • @gustavodamasceno6559
    @gustavodamasceno6559 2 роки тому +13

    Hey Steve, delta sleep just re-released afterimage as a single. And they turned a very folky acoustic that could very well be a big thief song into something much more in math rock.
    My suggestion is making a video about how they did that, it might be very interesting

    • @slugfest9685
      @slugfest9685 2 роки тому +1

      Dang ty for letting me know that is such a crazy good song

    • @LetsTalkAboutMathRock
      @LetsTalkAboutMathRock  2 роки тому +6

      Yup! Love the new version! I definitely will have another on of their songs (probably more like 10 😅) in the series

  • @alexbaker4009
    @alexbaker4009 2 роки тому +10

    This is a really good video, I'd like some more like this!

  • @CloudxOut
    @CloudxOut 2 роки тому +2

    Well done!

  • @dimitrispanagiotidis7635
    @dimitrispanagiotidis7635 2 роки тому +2

    I personally really like the idea of a series with the title what makes this chord progression great, it would be a really nice way to introduce your audience to more math rock songs, i have started playing math rock in my guitar and i would like to discover some songs ( also my fav chord progresion is IV I vi V)

  • @musicbyarwin_
    @musicbyarwin_ 2 роки тому +1

    love this

  • @soulreaver017
    @soulreaver017 2 роки тому +2

    Hey I know this isn't the video subject but could you do a video about "Jardín de la croix"? They're a spanish band and I've never seen you talking about them. Thanks for all the awesome videos and lessons.

  • @panema0
    @panema0 27 днів тому +1

    where'd you get your tabs, because im trying to learn the song, but can't find any good tabs anywhere..

  • @rabbitguy337
    @rabbitguy337 2 роки тому

    steve made such a killing off of that "structured math rock guide" ad he could afford another telecaster.

  • @hectorivansigalasilva5050
    @hectorivansigalasilva5050 Рік тому

    Muy finos sus tutoriales plebe. Slds cordiales.

  • @ouroboser
    @ouroboser 2 роки тому +1

    I thought this was a David Bennet Piano video about Math Rock for a second😅
    Very similar thumbnails

  • @MinPhase
    @MinPhase Рік тому +3

    Good stuff! How about 'Rabbit' by TTNG next?

  • @therealone1288
    @therealone1288 Рік тому +1

    what's that tele? it looks so nice. that fretboard is well loved

    • @LetsTalkAboutMathRock
      @LetsTalkAboutMathRock  Рік тому

      It's a vintera road worn 50s tele so it's made to look beat up. It's a nice guitar but ultimately the neck was too big for my liking so I sold it.

  • @Trauzzinator
    @Trauzzinator 2 роки тому +4

    Another telecaster!!!! HAHAHAHA

  • @bruisedbug
    @bruisedbug 2 роки тому +2

    Which is the right way to play the rhythm guitar? I play the rhythm in FACGCE, same tuning as the lead

    • @midnite_in_november
      @midnite_in_november 2 роки тому +1

      I believe it has been done both ways, I have seen set lists with the tunings before and if memory serves both players tuned to facgce for never meant but I know tunings were changed later on to help lower the pitch for singing

    • @LetsTalkAboutMathRock
      @LetsTalkAboutMathRock  2 роки тому +2

      I went by the tuning charts posted by AF online. They tune a semitone lower. Still the same tunings though 👍

  • @UlfJayThatGoldenTeacher
    @UlfJayThatGoldenTeacher Рік тому

    New telecaster ? What type is it ?

  • @cotobadafne
    @cotobadafne 2 роки тому

    nice tele

  • @memes_weakly2126
    @memes_weakly2126 Рік тому

    Bring The Livestreams Back~ :D

  • @manueldelatorre2383
    @manueldelatorre2383 2 роки тому +2

    Can you please make a video about “Waltz for Lily” by 3nd, that’s a math rock band I feel is underrated and I think it would be really cool...
    Great video btw :D

  • @da5idblacksun
    @da5idblacksun 10 місяців тому

    What are the details of your blue telecaster?

    • @LetsTalkAboutMathRock
      @LetsTalkAboutMathRock  10 місяців тому

      It's a RoadWorn 50s Vintera Telecaster FSR. Looks great but for me the neck was too big so ended up selling it on.

    • @da5idblacksun
      @da5idblacksun 10 місяців тому

      Makes sense. What are you playing now?
      @@LetsTalkAboutMathRock

  • @brotherjay9744
    @brotherjay9744 2 роки тому +4

    Never Meant, the pinnacle of emo/math

  • @Dizastermaster.
    @Dizastermaster. 2 роки тому

    I would think think the 2nd verse progression is even more special

  • @bestbeekeeper8931
    @bestbeekeeper8931 Рік тому +2

    TL;DR:i personally consider this to be a I-II-iii-V in F lydian, rather than a IV-V-vi-I in C major because the C/G at the end sounds like it's setting up the loop rather than resolving it to me. it's basically a major version of all along the watchtower
    prefacing this by saying i'm pretty sure the bass is just mimicking the low note in mike's riff. when mike is playing a low F, the bass plays F. when mike is playing a low G, the bass plays G, etc.
    while mike is playing that F in the bass, steve holmes is playing an A minor pentatonic run that emphasizes the E, C, and A, in that order. yes, he's plays a D and a G, but those are both passing tones and don't mean much by themselves, meanwhile the C major arpeggio mike is playing is, to my ear, more harmonizing this run that steve is doing.
    next we have a G in the bass, and mike plays a G and D over it, while steve starts on a very tense voice of a CMaj7 chord, before moving onto a cluster chord voiced as C-D-E. this is super amiguous, truthfully, and i think the ambiguity is where this riff gets a lot of its power. until the A minor, none of these chords really have a defined major/minor quality for too terribly long. both of these first chords are only getting their third for a moment, F getting its third, A, very late(just before the chord change) and G getting its third, B, only for a moment at the start before leaving it behind.
    the next chord is an A minor and the most defined by its quality in that regard in the entire riff. sure, mike is playing an F, and maybe steve is too for a second, but these are both passing tones. they aren't around very long and don't serve much harmonic purpose, meanwhile the riff is constantly rocking back and forth from C to E over an A, and you can't get much more A minor than that. i think the reason why this chord is so tense and draws our attention so well is specifically because it's so emphatically a minor chord. before, we were getting a lot of upper extensions, some conflicting information, but now everyone's playing A minor, and it suddenly grounds us from this otherwise suspended, floaty sound we're accustomed to.
    this riff ends with a C/G, and while it does kind of sound resolved with holmes alone, it's clearer with mike's part what's happening. the thing about steve's part is that it's based around this sort of ostinato figure which'll work over pretty much anything. it's not that it's not contributing any harmonic information, it's just that the ear gets so accustomed to it that you could really resolve it anywhere if you wanted to, between the pedal tone and the constant C-E alternation over top. what i think is really telling is that mike is only playing the G below, no other notes. this is the only time he's just playing a bass note, so it's pretty clear he's trying to draw your attention to this G, which really wants to go back to F as fast as possible to my ear.
    this is as far as i can get without having to give a primer on functional harmony

  • @therealone1288
    @therealone1288 Рік тому +1

    meme song but so good

  • @rxpapi
    @rxpapi 2 роки тому

    th

  • @TheXxPSYCHO
    @TheXxPSYCHO 2 роки тому

    You're sooo difficult to watch. Try to say what you have to say with less words

    • @xyzyzx1253
      @xyzyzx1253 Рік тому +5

      Work on your attention span lol

    • @TheXxPSYCHO
      @TheXxPSYCHO Рік тому

      @@xyzyzx1253 my attention span is fine. I just value my time and rather not waste it