An Introduction to Math Rock

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    Here's an introduction to math rock! I'm giving my perspective of this crazy subgenre, a band/song that'll help you get into it, and some must-know bands as well. From American Football with Never Meant, to Don Caballero, Tera Melos, Toe, Piglet, and Polvo: this is math rock.

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  • @ahumblerequest5222
    @ahumblerequest5222 2 роки тому +4019

    Math rock is just playing a catchy melody then never repeat it.

    • @matteovismara816
      @matteovismara816 2 роки тому +209

      *cries in Never Meant guitar part*

    • @handlewith_care
      @handlewith_care 2 роки тому +9

      @@matteovismara816 HAHAHAHAA

    • @inkkles
      @inkkles 2 роки тому +147

      @@matteovismara816 a good distinction is that if they get a math-rock lick and repeat it over and over, its probably midwest emo

    • @ab8817
      @ab8817 2 роки тому +16

      @@matteovismara816 American Football is an emo band. Theyre not math rock band. I dont know where this got started

    • @matteovismara816
      @matteovismara816 2 роки тому +28

      @@ab8817 Wikipedia doesn't agree with you, but who cares really.

  • @ParzivalTheThird
    @ParzivalTheThird 5 років тому +7717

    Funniest thing about Math Rock is that it’s probably really hard to concentrate on your Math homework whilst listening to it.

    • @caelb9764
      @caelb9764 5 років тому +222

      Tbh math rocked has helped me through hours of English assignments.

    • @ck88777
      @ck88777 4 роки тому +138

      lol Im listening to math rock while doing math hw rn and its actually not that distracting. Kinda puts me in a concentrated trance

    • @implicitnoir
      @implicitnoir 4 роки тому +17

      I love your username haha

    • @lavun4175
      @lavun4175 4 роки тому +19

      When I listen to it i enter this ultra flow state, doesnt really happen with other types of music though

    • @UndeadAlv
      @UndeadAlv 4 роки тому +11

      Lol I literally did 3hrs of homework listening to Americ anFootball

  • @Brakish33
    @Brakish33 3 роки тому +3518

    If anyone wants to know the asian band he showed a million times but didn't mention, it's Tricot. I highly recommended them.

    • @sauzeeee
      @sauzeeee 3 роки тому +134

      Tricot is triGOAT

    • @wolfgangvonodio1097
      @wolfgangvonodio1097 3 роки тому +52

      They are hands down my favorite.

    • @ChristopherGiroir
      @ChristopherGiroir 3 роки тому +23

      Thanks for making this comment!!

    • @kostiheikkinen2178
      @kostiheikkinen2178 3 роки тому +35

      This really tickles that itch, thanks. Do they still do live shows? I’d love to go see them sometime soon if they do.

    • @Brakish33
      @Brakish33 3 роки тому +16

      @@kostiheikkinen2178 they are still pretty active, you can find tour dates and music easily.

  • @bongopod
    @bongopod 4 роки тому +937

    Covet is so underrated. Such a good band, Yvette Young is great.

    • @bongopod
      @bongopod 3 роки тому +5

      @Compass_- you got me, i'm a tier 3 yvette sub 😔

    • @anuvette
      @anuvette 3 роки тому +3

      @@bongopod me too

    • @juanvillanueva304
      @juanvillanueva304 3 роки тому +9

      Yvette young is a goddess

    • @sou_desu8587
      @sou_desu8587 3 роки тому +4

      @@sroofikaden2355 i think they're too overrated

    • @kunns123
      @kunns123 3 роки тому +7

      @@xylo5750 make that 11 😤

  • @ooooswain
    @ooooswain 5 років тому +4301

    My sister's English professor was the drummer for American Football

  • @connorlarkinbass
    @connorlarkinbass 4 роки тому +6172

    Math Rock = prog rock made by people who like what punk music is but don't wanna play punk music.

    • @JackStieben
      @JackStieben 4 роки тому +516

      connor larkin I’ve always said math rock is just indie rock played by musicians that can actually play their instruments

    • @soultheory8441
      @soultheory8441 4 роки тому +97

      Jack Stieben I see what u mean but it’s all really subjective. But I agree, they use their instruments to the fullest

    • @neotim5
      @neotim5 4 роки тому +27

      ​@@JackStieben I just thought of it as ''Ambiente Rock'' because of the missing vocals

    • @lunahetfield
      @lunahetfield 4 роки тому +38

      connor larkin o i thought math rock was about math teachers/professors making a rock song about math.

    • @elcriticohijodeputa3785
      @elcriticohijodeputa3785 4 роки тому +47

      Is P R O G P U N K

  • @spencerjohnson3572
    @spencerjohnson3572 3 роки тому +320

    I discovered math rock by searching “math rock” on Spotify while my way to math class so I could listen to some playlist meant to get someone’s mind in the mood for mathematics. Never did I expect to actually find a sub genre of music.

  • @julesvrins9210
    @julesvrins9210 3 роки тому +1095

    "we're going to listen to some iconic math rock songs"
    *Plays 2 seconds, making it impossible to even hear the odd time signature*

    • @wacknut7224
      @wacknut7224 3 роки тому +78

      Copyright

    • @miserirken
      @miserirken 3 роки тому +37

      You can play 7 seconds of music before the copyright triggers (unless is a music juggernaut like, let's say, Kanye West or Radiohead).

    • @luc8254
      @luc8254 3 роки тому +75

      @@miserirken yeah.. good luck trying to be on the edge of copyright strike and risking your channel getting screwed forever by receiving a strike.

    • @miserirken
      @miserirken 3 роки тому +6

      Again, it's in the actual rules you can play 7 minutes of any song, just big music acts break this rule, and i feel, exceptiong American Football, this is a safe topic for that.

    • @reanetsemoleleki8219
      @reanetsemoleleki8219 3 роки тому +26

      @@miserirken how did 7 seconds become 7 minutes?

  • @nickygmp_350
    @nickygmp_350 5 років тому +5520

    What if we kissed in the American Football house?

  • @PermaGameReviews
    @PermaGameReviews 5 років тому +3899

    “What is math rock?” *plays Mac Demarco*

    • @archivehans
      @archivehans 5 років тому +17

      🤔

    • @nappyisanegatgrabingeatred7173
      @nappyisanegatgrabingeatred7173 5 років тому +93

      I know right? Bring me the horizon would of been more appropriate.

    • @bradmodd7856
      @bradmodd7856 4 роки тому +51

      what we need is more bath rock...Mac's next album

    • @Farkprice
      @Farkprice 4 роки тому +50

      nappyisanegatgrabingeatred lasikopenvageearreddit I tried to read aloud your nickname when suddenly satan appeared and said he approves your idea

    • @quinnmarchese6313
      @quinnmarchese6313 4 роки тому +18

      how can you even hear the mac demarco? the music, outside of the snippets is so low in the mix that its barely there at all.

  • @PiyuEris
    @PiyuEris 2 роки тому +163

    Math as a school subject terrified me in highschool.
    Now as an adult musician, Math terrifies me as a rock subgenre

  • @haro_sama
    @haro_sama 7 місяців тому +15

    So many Tricot vids but not a mention!! they are so incredible

  • @NohStar
    @NohStar 4 роки тому +3103

    in england we say ‘maths rock’

  • @KamilHenri
    @KamilHenri 5 років тому +3077

    Great video, but why is Mac DeMarco playing when you could've played math rock in the background

    • @AlfoMedia
      @AlfoMedia  5 років тому +745

      I feel like there's too much going on in math rock for it to be background music

    • @alexanderlee896
      @alexanderlee896 5 років тому +22

      I agree no Mac

    • @loicpin2632
      @loicpin2632 5 років тому +85

      Take it sloooowly brother let it goooo

    • @monnos9579
      @monnos9579 5 років тому +144

      MATH de Marco

    • @Chris-yi6us
      @Chris-yi6us 5 років тому +7

      @@loicpin2632 Let it gooooo now brother

  • @sethcomeaux7697
    @sethcomeaux7697 3 роки тому +45

    damn i thought they were gonna be singing about division and shit

    • @mankepoot9440
      @mankepoot9440 2 роки тому +3

      Joy Division is definitely Happy Mathrock.

  • @barbells_and_guitars
    @barbells_and_guitars 2 роки тому +46

    Toe is my favorite Math Rock band. Watching their live performances is also a great introduction to the genre.

  • @ConfusedTeddy.
    @ConfusedTeddy. 4 роки тому +1550

    i love indie rock and my friend heard a song in my car and said “oh sweet you like math rock” and my exact words were “nah i have an E in calc man”

    • @bbear3886
      @bbear3886 2 роки тому +7

      Lmao

    • @mellot00th
      @mellot00th Рік тому +30

      how do you get an E is that even a grade or is that a horrible dad joke

    • @ConfusedTeddy.
      @ConfusedTeddy. Рік тому +14

      @@mellot00th This is an actual thing that happened and an E is a grade you get in updated public school systems. You must go to school where they still give out Fs and teach kids only to do whatever the bible says is okay.

    • @saulq08
      @saulq08 Рік тому +61

      @@ConfusedTeddy. that was an overly aggressive response, most schools don’t have E grade, i didn’t even know it existed until now

    • @jbthestoner5504
      @jbthestoner5504 Рік тому +36

      @@ConfusedTeddy. damn coming off classist asf, that was kind of uncalled for

  • @SolidFoxHoundSF
    @SolidFoxHoundSF 5 років тому +4408

    TL;DW Math rock is just emo jazz.

    • @kmlac6596
      @kmlac6596 4 роки тому +36

      FoxHound SF thank u

    • @nope1018
      @nope1018 4 роки тому +14

      nope

    • @blank-hv8xt
      @blank-hv8xt 4 роки тому +27

      jazz guitar is way cooler than tap guitar tho

    • @SpaceGhostFan
      @SpaceGhostFan 4 роки тому +4

      nope
      Yep

    • @nope1018
      @nope1018 4 роки тому

      @@SpaceGhostFan y'all listening to that boring shit

  • @ckillgore
    @ckillgore 3 роки тому +79

    If someone wants to get into Math Rock I usually introduce them to King Crimson first to get them warmed up to some of the ideas that Math Rock was built off of. The thing about progressive rock is how it is always changing and evolving, and it's important, at least imo, to know what it's progressing *from*.
    I also personally think that Hella is a good entry point to the genre, but I'm very biased towards the works of Zach Hill. If someone is more into pop than heavier music, I will usually show them Bygones, which I would describe as Math Pop. I also like Zach because he takes his work in so many different directions. He kind of proves that there does have to just be math *rock*, and that the core tenants of math music can even be applied to genres like hip-hop.

    • @physchemmaths7917
      @physchemmaths7917 Рік тому +1

      What songs would you recommend from Zach?

    • @buffontoucher1312
      @buffontoucher1312 Рік тому +1

      @@physchemmaths7917 The Primitives Talk and Face Tat, although I love every single piece he has ever worked on

    • @no-lifenoah7861
      @no-lifenoah7861 Рік тому +2

      @@buffontoucher1312 does that include his work with Death Grips?

    • @buffontoucher1312
      @buffontoucher1312 Рік тому +1

      @@no-lifenoah7861 Had them as my top artist for two years, so yeah

    • @no-lifenoah7861
      @no-lifenoah7861 Рік тому +2

      @@buffontoucher1312 noided

  • @illusory7862
    @illusory7862 3 роки тому +76

    You had me at emo jazz. Could have just cut the video there and I'd be sold.

    • @mysticmagicsmurfdarklord6844
      @mysticmagicsmurfdarklord6844 3 роки тому +3

      Math Rock has very little jazz influence- well, at least no more or fewer than most rock genres. Complexity does not equal jazz . Jazz can be complex, but it does not have to be. Complex music can be jazz, but it does not have to be.

  • @gamer-hl4cp
    @gamer-hl4cp 4 роки тому +534

    Blue face is my favorite math rock artist

  • @GoldenBoyDims
    @GoldenBoyDims 5 років тому +1420

    >has tricot in the video, ends up not recommending tricot

    • @UsingNinjutsu
      @UsingNinjutsu 5 років тому +74

      lol i was waiting for him to mention them the entire time

    • @cremat
      @cremat 5 років тому +17

      YEAH WHAT

    • @juliangonzalez2953
      @juliangonzalez2953 5 років тому +40

      By far the best band in the genre imo

    • @poepunk
      @poepunk 5 років тому +34

      Check out Elephant Gym as well

    • @GoldenBoyDims
      @GoldenBoyDims 5 років тому +5

      @@poepunk thats another good band a big fan cause of the lead singer is the bassist and im biased to the bass

  • @jonathanacevedo4335
    @jonathanacevedo4335 3 роки тому +20

    I’ve been listening to Math Rock for almost a year and didn’t even realize until now

    • @gecko4878
      @gecko4878 3 роки тому

      I'm pretty sure that is just progressive rock

  • @bozzbagger
    @bozzbagger 2 роки тому +50

    An interesting theme of a lot of Math rock is the feeling of regret and nostalgia for the past, which couples well with the lack of consistent melodies. A song reminiscing of a past love, with a beautiful melody that much like the love like the relationship is burns brightly then fades out never to come back(Pretty much the entire theme of American Football). The two go incredibly well hand in hand as as a result pulls emotions out in a way that the repetition of typical song structures can't. It also makes listening more addicting and interesting. Or maybe I just found math rock when I was going through a breakup. With that being said, the band that probably most defines what I'm talking about is TTNG which is my all time fav math rock band and Animals is IMO the best place to start if you're interested.

    • @shreksoreinstein8380
      @shreksoreinstein8380 2 роки тому +1

      i can relate, when i listen to maths rock then it feels like i'm hanging out with my other half

    • @analysis726
      @analysis726 Рік тому

      the line between math rock and midwest emo is nonexistent

  • @jessreinhardt4408
    @jessreinhardt4408 4 роки тому +523

    I just discovered this genre, and never has any other kind of music been able to invoke the feelings that math rock can.

    • @Wylie288
      @Wylie288 4 роки тому +6

      There are more feeling provoking genres out there.

    • @moofoogee
      @moofoogee 4 роки тому +113

      Subjective. If that’s what Jess feels then that’s what is right for Jess.

    • @victorfine5094
      @victorfine5094 4 роки тому +20

      Griffin Cates simp but u rite

    • @crikeynate
      @crikeynate 4 роки тому +6

      i felt this when i first heard it. it was definitely what i’d been looking for. sounds weird but i felt like i was able to breathe when i heard it. enjoy it, its amazing music.

    • @soultheory8441
      @soultheory8441 4 роки тому +13

      Victor Finé simp??

  • @JSA-SL
    @JSA-SL 5 років тому +1060

    My favorite math rock band is Jay z

    • @danman6669
      @danman6669 5 років тому +1

      Illuminati

    • @tirilfarestveit650
      @tirilfarestveit650 5 років тому +36

      Ah mine is Nicci Minjai

    • @onixtv4034
      @onixtv4034 4 роки тому +3

      Mine is Eminem.

    • @stonefrank9288
      @stonefrank9288 4 роки тому +3

      mine is 2 pac

    • @MrAte-uo7yo
      @MrAte-uo7yo 4 роки тому +27

      Jay-Z math rock???
      "I've been in it five; smarten up, Nas!
      Four albums in 10 years, nigga? I could divide
      That's one every… let's say two, two of them shits was doo
      One was "nah," the other was Illmatic
      That's a one-hot-album-every-10-year average"
      _I see it lol_

  • @everyoneusedthis1149
    @everyoneusedthis1149 3 роки тому +1

    This is a great video, I’ve been a fan of math rock for a bit and I know a lot of bands, but this video is definitely a must watch for any math rock fan. This introduced you to so many bands, this is a great video.

  • @rajithfernando6200
    @rajithfernando6200 10 місяців тому

    Dude, THANK YOU! for some reason I stumbled upon this video and this opened a door I'll never close. I fell hard for this genre and I can't stop exploring more. Math rock rules 🤘

  • @MontgomeryBiggs
    @MontgomeryBiggs 5 років тому +843

    shows CHON in video
    doesn’t mention CHON

    • @marshalllee358
      @marshalllee358 5 років тому +11

      OMGGG RIGHTTTT

    • @MaySpitfire
      @MaySpitfire 4 роки тому +12

      Mario would be displeased

    • @clyde_.158
      @clyde_.158 4 роки тому +12

      @@stevestevestevesteve6466 more prog rock

    • @AFN2750
      @AFN2750 4 роки тому +23

      Chon and Polyphia are very similar musically, and Polyphia is often labeled as djent, oddly enough

    • @johnathanwilson1363
      @johnathanwilson1363 4 роки тому

      FRRRRRR

  • @jennifert.4416
    @jennifert.4416 5 років тому +703

    yvette young and her band covet are nuts. sleepy dog's stuff is really fun and high-energy

    • @kalahne
      @kalahne 5 років тому +24

      Oh MAN, Yvette young and covet are amazing!!!

    • @luiss428
      @luiss428 5 років тому +9

      covets amazing (as well as the raw guitar covers yvette posts)

    • @splatkirby6056
      @splatkirby6056 5 років тому +20

      Ay, Sleepy Dog! Love that guy

    • @okrlu8054
      @okrlu8054 5 років тому

      👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾

    • @lainnislame
      @lainnislame 5 років тому

      I love sleepy dog c: zzzzz

  • @chan9425
    @chan9425 2 роки тому +1

    I love that this is the first video that comes up when you type in math rock. I can imagine someone not knowing what it is and clicking the first video that pops up. It’s really good for people who want to expand their musical tastes! Really good explanation to someone who wouldn’t know a lot about it.

  • @erichodosh2933
    @erichodosh2933 3 роки тому +12

    Polvo is the most criminally underappreciated band I've ever heard. When I stumbled across them on Spotify a few years I was beside myself. I hadn't been that excited about music in a decade.

  • @dotdots2660
    @dotdots2660 5 років тому +1419

    Thanks for the 2 seconds of math rock, in a video all about math rock.

    • @drtij_dzienz
      @drtij_dzienz 5 років тому +104

      Damon Che might copyright strike him lol

    • @jameshiggins8601
      @jameshiggins8601 5 років тому +67

      He can legally show more than a few seconds but UA-cam will strike him if he plays more than 2 seconds. I think he will still end up getting demonetized for this, unfortunately.

    • @carybeweary7209
      @carybeweary7209 5 років тому +52

      @@jameshiggins8601 it's protected under fair use if he plays even more than a few seconds but youtube is a broken platform that has its head up its ass so yeah one dumbass music company who know jack shit about law would request it's removal and UA-cam would fold faster than superman on laundry day

    • @FMSnow
      @FMSnow 5 років тому +3

      thank UMG for that

    • @TheMMCast
      @TheMMCast 5 років тому +11

      Why on earth would an artist copyright strike a video meant to introduce new audience members to the artist? Seriously, in what world could someone believe that could do anything but help the artist?

  • @danielmyers2696
    @danielmyers2696 5 років тому +775

    I feel like TTNG (This Town Needs Guns) might be an even better introduction to the genre. IMO, their album Animals is very accessible music while still being intricate and technically impressive math rock. American Football definitely has math tones, but like you said they fuse a lot of emo into their sound. That’s not a bad thing, I just think that TTNG might be a better place to start for somebody who’s looking to get into math rock specifically. This is a great video as always though, I think math rock is one of those genres that people are afraid to get into because it kind of gives off a weird vibe.

    • @cremat
      @cremat 5 років тому +17

      yeah! imo american football learns more towards (midwest) emo than math rock

    • @travisyomum7266
      @travisyomum7266 5 років тому +21

      Animals is exactly what got me into math rock. Just clicked on the thumbnail cause I thought the album cover looked cool, but hearing the chaotic charm and energy of Chinchilla at the beginning had me so confused and memorized I just had to look into it more. American footballs a good band but tbh I feel like if you've never listened to math rock before you'd probably fall asleep on the first listen and never come back to it.

    • @surrealducks
      @surrealducks 5 років тому +3

      Their self-titled EP was what got me started. Animals is a great album, don't get me wrong, but on a first listen I think it all sort of sounds the same. Subsequent listens are awesome, but if you want a quick intro it may not be the best place to start. It's not perfect, but I think the self-titled has a bit more variation.

    • @danielmyers2696
      @danielmyers2696 5 років тому +4

      surrealducks Agreed! the self titled is amazing. Want to come back to my room and listen to Belle & Sebastian is my all time favorite TTNG song.

    • @surrealducks
      @surrealducks 5 років тому +6

      @@danielmyers2696 it's a great one! My brain exploded the first time I heard 26 Is Dancier Than 4

  • @georgethemonkeydrummer5598
    @georgethemonkeydrummer5598 Рік тому

    You hooked me up on Tricot and I appreciate it sir years ago when you released their videos and I found their music interesting just from the clips. And after listening to the album you recommended I got hooked.

  • @panheaddragonwolfpaw
    @panheaddragonwolfpaw 3 роки тому +13

    I listened to only Japanese music for the longest time because I thought the type of stuff you hear in this genre only existed in Japan. Bands like Haisuinonasa and Co Shu Nie were and still are my favorites because of how they mess with beat and chord structure. I wanted to start getting into American music again, but I couldn't find a good band until now.

    • @dantemwatibo3517
      @dantemwatibo3517 8 місяців тому

      Woah wait I always thought Co Shu Nie was just interesting to listen to (thinking of The Promised Neverland ending). Now I know why haha

    • @chxrryery4188
      @chxrryery4188 7 місяців тому

      @@dantemwatibo3517definitely the airy and light (but still strong) vocals in combination with the instrumental, normally you’d find vocals like that on a more basic song or cool instrumentals on a more basic voice never both, at least that’s what I think

  • @meymes3655
    @meymes3655 4 роки тому +491

    *Gives snippets of math rock songs so that the viewers can begin to understand what math rock is
    *Makes the snippets too short to even remotely understand the strange time signatures

    • @AngelBolt
      @AngelBolt 3 роки тому +62

      UA-cam has an entirely algorithm-based copyright system- you can only play a short snippet for it not to be automatically compared against a database and sent to the rights owners. They strike or claim the video, regardless of the actual intent. UA-cam's only responsibility is to not host it. The value of what this guy's saying is greater than what a few seconds more of music can account for, the video version of that song is literally in the sidebar of related videos.

    • @johnnynogood008
      @johnnynogood008 3 роки тому +4

      Good point

    • @dgphi
      @dgphi Рік тому +23

      It's a sad state of affairs. This guy is promoting these bands, generating sales for them, but if he used more than a few seconds of their material, then the publishers would copyright strike him and steal all of his ad revenue. Even when it's against their own self interest, they are compelled to be greedy.

  • @citroenboter
    @citroenboter 4 роки тому +336

    I'm a simple soul. I see the house, I click.

  • @bariizlam638
    @bariizlam638 3 роки тому

    Dude, thanks a lot. You introduced me to math rock and I thank you for it!

  • @aquaenjoyer1612
    @aquaenjoyer1612 18 днів тому +1

    i found this genre on a random 1 hour playlist on yt titled like "japanese math rock to listen while strolling around in the cherry blossoms" and ive been in love since. for me this songs literally feel like a day in summer going to the beach with your friends. also (for those who watched them) those songs reminded me of the film "your name" when they start comunicating with eatch other using the other body

  • @alexd.2504
    @alexd.2504 5 років тому +376

    >sees King Crimson at 0:40
    It just works

    • @meltossmedia
      @meltossmedia 5 років тому +42

      *_iS tHaT a MoThErFuCkInG jOjO rEfErEnCe?!?_*

    • @alexd.2504
      @alexd.2504 5 років тому +38

      @@meltossmedia yes but King Crimson is also my favorite band

    • @meltossmedia
      @meltossmedia 5 років тому +6

      @@alexd.2504 ye, definitely in my top 10, maybe 5 even

    • @tristangianelli
      @tristangianelli 5 років тому +3

      Alex D. Me too

    • @brayanmorales313
      @brayanmorales313 5 років тому +3

      How are the bands in the Video? Like the clips in the background. I’m trying to find out the band at 2:55 mark. I think I’ve seen them before but I might be wrong. Also if somebody wants to list them all feel free to do so. I would really love to get into this genre. I’ve started listening to TTNG and they are amazing.

  • @sirshmango
    @sirshmango 5 років тому +125

    Noticed footage of a couple of Audiotree live sessions in here. CHON (0:27) and tricot (0:49), in case anyone was interested.

    • @taurusgump
      @taurusgump 5 років тому +2

      Add Audiotree Live videos were all over my suggestions after this.

    • @danman6669
      @danman6669 5 років тому +4

      Audiotree is how I was introduced to those bands.

  • @roo7193
    @roo7193 3 роки тому

    I’m so grateful that I found this video because math rock has had a huge impact on my taste of music and I’ve found some of my favourite bands ever because of it

  • @majora6767
    @majora6767 Рік тому +2

    I have no idea why I watched this as many times as I did but thank you for getting me into american football. honestly my favorite band

  • @MrSzponrax
    @MrSzponrax 5 років тому +85

    Delta Sleep, TTNG, Covet, Pretend, Clever Girl, Rooftops.

    • @landerpridgen9512
      @landerpridgen9512 5 років тому +7

      No dnb in the jazz room is one of my favorite albums ever

    • @zanegolding8207
      @zanegolding8207 5 років тому +3

      I just blasted clever girls EP on my record player! Love the stuff

    • @natasha8767
      @natasha8767 5 років тому +11

      Delta Sleep is on top of my current faves!

    • @MrSzponrax
      @MrSzponrax 5 років тому +1

      @@natasha8767 Same! I just found out about Girlfriends, few pieces really resonate well with me.

    • @patriciodiazcroce5211
      @patriciodiazcroce5211 3 роки тому

      all great bands

  • @Faustvonholle
    @Faustvonholle 4 роки тому +481

    >says "emo jazz" is a derogatory description
    >describes math rock band as emo jazz
    >uses emo band as good intro into math rock
    There's a very clear reason why it's got the connotation of emo jazz, and you described it.

    • @Donjonneau
      @Donjonneau 3 роки тому +4

      Well, you were influenced by a youtuber. You won... A PIECE OF NUTSHELL (ah-ah, don't mind the roughness, hehe)!!! The description from one youtuber can be questionable as for any human being.

    • @mysticmagicsmurfdarklord6844
      @mysticmagicsmurfdarklord6844 3 роки тому +6

      Math Rock has very little jazz influence- well, at least no more or fewer than most rock genres. Complexity does not equal jazz . Jazz can be complex, but it does not have to be. Complex music can be jazz, but it does not have to be.

    • @Donjonneau
      @Donjonneau 3 роки тому +1

      @@mysticmagicsmurfdarklord6844 Complexity, well, I get it, good point. But I wonder if there are Emo-Jazz bands with Saxophonists or Trumpetists. I don't think so.

    • @mysticmagicsmurfdarklord6844
      @mysticmagicsmurfdarklord6844 3 роки тому +3

      @@Donjonneau no. Complexity has nothing to do with jazz. You’re not even listening to me. Math Rock is not jazz. Not even close.

    • @Donjonneau
      @Donjonneau 3 роки тому +1

      @@mysticmagicsmurfdarklord6844 I wrote that I agreed to you... You didn't read carefully. I'm not trying to take you for a fool, I mean it. And yes, they are not that close, but some German Math-Rock band sounded like Electric-Jazz-Math-Rock band (DANG IT I went too far, too long on the genre name).

  • @wumbr6467
    @wumbr6467 Рік тому

    coming back to this video after a year of math rock is so cool bc this was what got me here

  • @canniloni
    @canniloni 3 роки тому +1

    i got introduced to math rock through covet and i absolutely love it now, it's a genre i never knew i was looking for

  • @AnimatedLP
    @AnimatedLP 5 років тому +81

    tricot is one of my favourite bands, they actually brought me to math rock.
    toe with their song 'goodbye' is one of the best songs i ever listened to. The emotion + complexity of the instrumental is off this world.

    • @cranburrey
      @cranburrey 3 роки тому +1

      Same! Tricot was the first math rock band I've listened to. I think Potage was the first song I've ever heard from them and got hooked.

    • @unbearableburden
      @unbearableburden 2 роки тому +4

      @@cranburrey goodbye by toe is so incredible, i still listen to it every other day, such a gem!

  • @kless001
    @kless001 4 роки тому +55

    Never Meant is a good way to get introduced to mathrock for sure.

  • @PutingPinoy
    @PutingPinoy 4 роки тому +14

    I would best describe it as complex rhythms that change spontaneously. Typically, they have an alternative rock feel melodically.

    • @BenDRobinson
      @BenDRobinson 5 місяців тому

      I'm not sure if "spontaneously" is the right word there. It suggests doing something on the spur of the moment, whereas performing a change of time signature mid song usually requires planning and a heap of practice.

  • @carlosaugusto2195
    @carlosaugusto2195 Рік тому

    This vid made me to dive into mathrock some months ago. Just thank you dude!

  • @NigelGrab
    @NigelGrab 5 років тому +143

    TTNG are the best possible intro to Math Rock. Please please try their stuff, it's gorgeous.

  • @feavjo
    @feavjo 5 років тому +299

    You should make the song snippets longer, we can barely hear what the song really sounds like. Great video nonetheless

    • @carstarsarstenstesenn
      @carstarsarstenstesenn 5 років тому +16

      Check it out on your own. You shouldn’t rely on snippets anyways

    • @portopilzi
      @portopilzi 5 років тому +27

      copyright my guy

    • @AlfoMedia
      @AlfoMedia  5 років тому +28

      what they said ^^^

    • @abcrx32j
      @abcrx32j 5 років тому +3

      @@portopilzi Most math rock bands aren't that much of a pussy, but yeah, let him go to just listen to it

    • @prikas4313
      @prikas4313 5 років тому +5

      @@abcrx32j majority of the time it's not the band itself copyrighting, it's the label

  • @johnforestersworstnightmar3756
    @johnforestersworstnightmar3756 3 роки тому +36

    So you showed amazing bands like Chon, Elephant Gym and tricot but don’t mention them at all? Ok...
    Also others to look up are Hail the Sun, Eidola (both also take some influence from metalcore as well), Covet, TTNG and Polyphia. Enjoy!

    • @JeremyChristofer
      @JeremyChristofer 2 роки тому

      Is Hail the Sun really considered math rock? That’s the first I’ve ever heard of that. I consider them more progressive rock/post hardcore which was listed as influences of the genre... but I think they are much more mainstream than that. Their songs definitely tend to follow the typical song structure to a point which was mentioned here. I think they are fantastic so this is nothing against them at all, I just don’t think they are in that genre.

    • @felipejundi
      @felipejundi 2 роки тому +1

      Chon is so fucking gooood

  • @dy8244
    @dy8244 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you for the introduction. The “Absence of Evidence” is what I imagine Modest Mouse would have sounded like if they were more virtuosic. I now love them both. Thanks again.

  • @nickquarino
    @nickquarino 5 років тому +6

    I love how positive your videos are, bringing to light music that the average person probably hasn't explored. I'd love to see more videos on sub-genres. I knew of math rocks existence, but I didn't know much about it. This was a cool informative and fun video. Keep up the good work.

  • @ichemnutcracker
    @ichemnutcracker 4 роки тому +85

    lol. I never actually looked in to what this kind of music was called. All my girlfriends used to just say "oh, you are listening to that droning music again"... so that's what I've always called it; my "droning music". I feel more than a little silly for owning about a third of the albums on that Reddit chart and never having encountered somebody enthusiastic enough about the genre to tell me it's real name.

  • @nothingiseverperfect
    @nothingiseverperfect 3 роки тому +1

    This is so cool haha I’ve been listening to Never Meant by American Football for so long and I was like wow how are they so good hahaha thanks for this

  • @brendenhorn4646
    @brendenhorn4646 2 роки тому +2

    Finally have a name to the very specific music I sometimes crave to listen to but had no Idea what it was or how to find more other than knowing Yvette young had the sound

  • @TheJmix
    @TheJmix 5 років тому +3

    Would be so cool to see more of those genre introduction videos. So amazing, keep up the great work :)

  • @calebevans3690
    @calebevans3690 4 роки тому +64

    Then there's dance gavin dance.
    " what genre do we want to play"
    "Yes"

    • @Ren542
      @Ren542 4 роки тому

      Lol

    • @MrBlueyGuitar
      @MrBlueyGuitar 4 роки тому +2

      I was about to say people just gonna disrespect DGD like they don't math?

    • @freezingjazzy
      @freezingjazzy 3 роки тому +4

      Swancore. Final answer.

    • @geoff3610
      @geoff3610 3 роки тому

      @@freezingjazzy thats fair i had not considered that he is in a league of his own

    • @IDoABitOfTrollin
      @IDoABitOfTrollin 3 роки тому

      Its just Tilians fever dreams brought to life and his solo stuff is his day dreams

  • @karu6111
    @karu6111 3 роки тому

    That flowchart at the end was a revelation, thanks man

  • @the_rhykker
    @the_rhykker 4 роки тому

    Please do more!

  • @Guacamakis
    @Guacamakis 5 років тому +59

    I freaking love math rock but no one I talk to has even even heard of it. Thanks for this video, I'll point anyone that asks here

  • @cheesecakelasagna
    @cheesecakelasagna 4 роки тому +80

    For any Filipinos out there, we got math rock bands as well:
    *AOUI* (pronounced "ah-wee") and *Sound Architects*

    • @jackwhacker1714
      @jackwhacker1714 4 роки тому +8

      Toms story

    • @ayeena092498
      @ayeena092498 4 роки тому

      gago ang angas ng aoui

    • @ilceaau
      @ilceaau 4 роки тому

      fr? pakinggan ko nga

    • @iansantos123
      @iansantos123 3 роки тому +5

      More like post rock or shoe gaze Sound Architects but great band. Fools and Foes, Run Dorothy, tide/edit, shaw, Tom's Story, Amateurish, Luncheon, Tim Awa, Trippy Oh!. Halo halo na yan math at post

    • @se-ku3op
      @se-ku3op 3 роки тому

      meron?

  • @jarrodcluck
    @jarrodcluck 3 роки тому +1

    Oh, my. You have introduced me to new things! Subscribed

  • @melone6448
    @melone6448 3 роки тому

    that sounds like such a beautiful subgenre!

  • @davezarairl
    @davezarairl 5 років тому +190

    Hella?
    Or Battles?

    • @bobunitone
      @bobunitone 5 років тому +21

      Lightning Bolt??

    • @raulperez2308
      @raulperez2308 5 років тому +5

      hella

    • @Dr.Mrs.Pancakes
      @Dr.Mrs.Pancakes 5 років тому +26

      And by extension Zach Hill in general

    • @JuanGarcia-hm7fx
      @JuanGarcia-hm7fx 5 років тому +1

      Hella

    • @rbzanatta
      @rbzanatta 5 років тому +4

      I've seen people saying Battles is much more experimental in general than math rock, but it has its roots there since Ian was in Don.
      Hella should definitly be here, however.

  • @charliemoll5435
    @charliemoll5435 5 років тому +12

    Thank you for this. I’ve been curious about math rock for some time

    • @bluesolace9052
      @bluesolace9052 5 років тому

      Charlie Moll XD I thought it was just rock music about math

  • @dustinsteele3069
    @dustinsteele3069 2 роки тому

    Great video bro. Loved it

  • @royfablooo2810
    @royfablooo2810 3 роки тому +2

    It sounds Complex, it's chill music to listen to. Clean guitars riffage(Well some songs) and it has that indie vibe.

  • @npgy
    @npgy 5 років тому +7

    Most people haven't heard this before but this is a band of my cousin's friends and they only made one album.
    If you're into math rock I bet you'll really like it.
    The album is All Things Considered by The Pelicants, it's on youtube.

  • @UnlockYourWellness
    @UnlockYourWellness 5 років тому +217

    DO A VIDEO ON 'STILL WOOZY'

  • @ther1spammer261
    @ther1spammer261 3 роки тому +1

    hi i just wanted to say that thanks for this vid! I watched like a year ago and from that Day till Today I still love math rock. I love it so much that it inspired me to learn how to play the Guitar, thank you for that because it got me motivare to do it. Honestly, is one of the things that got me through COVID and todays stuff... thanks men! :) (sorry for broken English)

  • @rproctor83
    @rproctor83 2 роки тому +4

    Music is composed in two parts, how it makes you feel and how it sounds. There is a fine line between being technically amazing and incredibly inspiring. Technically amazing will be listened to once and appreciated where as incredibly inspiring will be listened to and studied for generations. IMHO a lot of prog rock is only technically amazing, but it's so complicated that most people forget what they just heard shortly after.

  • @skyborax5159
    @skyborax5159 5 років тому +5

    Loved the video, it would be cool if you did more “how to get into obscure genres” videos I’m sure many people would appreciate them and it would give so much needed love to some of the more obscure ones.

  • @iancharlescarter35
    @iancharlescarter35 5 років тому +87

    Math is love, Math is life. Hyped on this vid. Here's a couple picks from me as a fan..
    For instrumental Stuff check:
    Bullet Proof Tiger
    Floral
    Physics House Band
    Vocals:
    Colour
    TTNG (This Town Needs Guns)
    The Edmund Fitzgerald (Yannis and Jacks band before FOALS)
    and obvs first Foals record Antidotes

    • @chrisdrums1910
      @chrisdrums1910 5 років тому +2

      Ian Charles Carter floral!!! The most underrated band

    • @OmerAliuddin
      @OmerAliuddin 5 років тому +1

      Hell yeah Colour is so amazing, it's sad that they only have one album but it's such a great album.

    • @NegativeSpacePhoto
      @NegativeSpacePhoto 5 років тому +1

      Also look into cleft, if you like the physics house band.

    • @18skeltor
      @18skeltor 5 років тому +1

      Love Floral.

    • @stevena8719
      @stevena8719 5 років тому +1

      Gay outdoor muscle sex revenge is a classic

  • @mikeyholtsdreampopgaze
    @mikeyholtsdreampopgaze 4 роки тому

    holy crap thanks you have now introduced me to a whole new realm

  • @XxyliaGaming
    @XxyliaGaming 4 роки тому +7

    Great list, one honorable mention is Foals’ 2008 album Antidotes before they strayed & started evolving their sound.

    • @cyanhallows7809
      @cyanhallows7809 4 роки тому

      They've got a couple math rock tracks out since like On The Luna

    • @thetemplar20
      @thetemplar20 Рік тому

      Hundred percent. Love all FOALS albums but nothing compares so Antidotes. Feel it's a great gateway into the genre.

  • @frightening_volleyball1231
    @frightening_volleyball1231 5 років тому +34

    My first Math Rock Band was Giraffes? Giraffes!

    • @d0rkbug
      @d0rkbug 5 років тому +5

      where the catholic girls go camping is such an awesome song

  • @jasonkeller8531
    @jasonkeller8531 5 років тому +49

    Great video. If anyone wants some twinkly, jazzy math rock, check out the album Clever Girl - No Drum and Bass in The Jazz Room.

  • @fye_design
    @fye_design Рік тому

    Loved this

  • @mifftyislive
    @mifftyislive 3 роки тому +1

    This is the genre i've been looking for.

  • @SMITHII_
    @SMITHII_ 5 років тому +56

    Mathrock is ruled by unusual time signatures, unless you are chon.
    Mario has said before he writes most things in 4/4.

    • @spencer6081
      @spencer6081 5 років тому +5

      Polyphia is the same way

    • @abcrx32j
      @abcrx32j 4 роки тому

      Yet they play stuff in 5/4, 7/8 and 15/16

    • @anuvette
      @anuvette 3 роки тому +2

      @@spencer6081 polyphia isnt math rock theyre metal

    • @MastersweetRAY
      @MastersweetRAY 3 роки тому

      Chomnhas also changes their sound often, in their audiotree he explicitly says what they listen to influences they’re music

    • @devinthorn8182
      @devinthorn8182 3 роки тому +2

      Polyphia is not metal unless you are using the term with the broadest definition possible lol

  • @setomanda3272
    @setomanda3272 5 років тому +56

    >no mention of hella or slint
    ????

    • @bottledsoup239
      @bottledsoup239 4 роки тому +2

      A year late but I'm still mad he didn't have the intro to breadcrumb trail as background music

    • @marmota7615
      @marmota7615 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, I was expecting to see King Crimson or Hella in this vid.. none of them are there...

    • @damesoumbi
      @damesoumbi 3 роки тому +1

      @@marmota7615 king crimson is a prog rock band. the technical, experimental, and complex aspect of their music inspired math rock, but they are in no way part of the contemporary math rock genre

    • @user-lw1iw9bg9y
      @user-lw1iw9bg9y 3 роки тому +1

      Not putting hella is a deadly sin. Their shit is amazing and I love it

  • @normanperkel139
    @normanperkel139 2 роки тому

    Pretty cool vid. Thanks!

  • @joshfeatherstone8546
    @joshfeatherstone8546 3 роки тому +5

    A band out of Austin, Texas called Paul Newman did a record called Machine Is Not Broken and it is an underrated masterpiece.

  • @tmaKlopp
    @tmaKlopp 5 років тому +31

    CHON was in the vid but no shout-out. I love your channel, just mentioning.

  • @gilespeterson6832
    @gilespeterson6832 5 років тому +17

    Four important albums you missed:
    Slint - Spiderland
    Brave Little Abacus - Just Got Back From The Discomfort... We're Alright
    empire! empire! empire! i was a lonely estate - What It Takes To Move Forward
    toe - the book about my idle plot on a vague anxiety

    • @dylanfluker
      @dylanfluker 5 років тому +4

      Slinttt for sure

    • @isthatbortsimpson9562
      @isthatbortsimpson9562 5 років тому

      He didn't miss Toe, you never watched the full video lol

    • @skithness
      @skithness 4 роки тому

      Ooooo, only one of those are considered math rock

    • @playboicatrissock5867
      @playboicatrissock5867 4 роки тому

      Im not really into rock, but even i knew slint-spiderland and was wondering where is was

  • @dewberry150
    @dewberry150 2 роки тому +1

    its fun to my ears. never knowing what i will next

  • @RCady33
    @RCady33 3 роки тому

    Nice breakdown. Never Meant is exactly how I was introduced to the genre.

  • @George100DP
    @George100DP 5 років тому +392

    You just gonna ignore the first Foals album then? Cool

    • @radecparmezan6476
      @radecparmezan6476 5 років тому +24

      my favourite album ever

    • @chestubbs7150
      @chestubbs7150 5 років тому +20

      I thought he would have mentioned them for sure, considering the new album dropped like a week ago (even though its not really math rock).

    • @danshinks5897
      @danshinks5897 5 років тому +12

      He didn't mention but it was on the far left of the flowchart

    • @chestubbs7150
      @chestubbs7150 5 років тому +12

      @@danshinks5897 true, just thought he would touch on it since they're one of the more mainstream bands that have math rock influences at their roots.

    • @ethansics9400
      @ethansics9400 5 років тому +7

      Antidotes is the shiiiit

  • @yuditepic3396
    @yuditepic3396 5 років тому +15

    so glad for this video bc i felt like i should get into math rock since i listened to one chon song and now i know where to start

    • @lukenluken
      @lukenluken 5 років тому

      Check out a band called floral.

    • @yuditepic3396
      @yuditepic3396 5 років тому

      @@lukenluken sure will

  • @breakfreak3181
    @breakfreak3181 Рік тому

    I kinda knew what Math Rock is, but this video was very helpful! Gonna give the bands mentioned a listen!

  • @dannyrodriguez6847
    @dannyrodriguez6847 3 роки тому

    Very well described

  • @fuzzydunlop4513
    @fuzzydunlop4513 5 років тому +39

    If you like art rock-punk-art metal- and Mathy rock listen to MX-80 Sound - Hard Attack. Came out in 77' and predates a Lot of math rock. Also This Heat - Deceit uses a lot of weird time signatures and the originality on that album is unprecedented and never even close to replicated

    • @nakedfordinner
      @nakedfordinner 5 років тому +1

      @Kill yr Idols check out captain beefheart and the magic band as well, they pretty much laid down the foundation for math rock

  • @EliteJovenAgent
    @EliteJovenAgent 5 років тому +10

    I listen to math rock whenever I do my engineering problem sets.

  • @ashlama6060
    @ashlama6060 3 роки тому

    Putting this here to return back after checking out the reddit post

  • @Rosalina102798
    @Rosalina102798 5 років тому +30

    Don't understand why Hella isn't here, although I could see why even Battles isn't here (one of my favorite experimental bands of all time besides Sweet Trip, Tera Melos, Animal Collective, Silver Apples and 65daysofstatic) considering that they're more of an experimental/post-rock band than anything else. Little to no irregular time signatures in most of their music, except for their debut solo album, which did feature a few mathy influences, but it's obviously post-rock at its core.

    • @castleb0y
      @castleb0y 5 років тому +1

      sweet trip is basically just the best band ever tbh

    • @Rosalina102798
      @Rosalina102798 5 років тому +1

      @@castleb0y Completely agree! Painfully underrated band outside of Sputnik and RYM.