Every time you Sam & Melissa are in a room together, the chemistry is through the roof! I could listen to you all talk about cutting the grass. 😅 literally anything. But I’d much rather hear you talk about your upbringing!! Your lives are so parallel and spreading that knowledge into the world to “normies” like me - is always so powerful &. !uplifting! Can’t wait to watch this 20 times ❤ adore u all.
I love hearing the words 'earthly temptations'. We do live on planet earth right?! I always thought religiously my background was the wildest eveeer. My mom was a catholic nun, left, married and had children. And then i learned about FLDS, the Order, AUB etc. 😂At that point i realized that i am so randomly "normal" haha.
I hope you all can learn to be yourself and not worry about who may or may not be offended. Having a glass of wine is not a sin. I know it’s hard when you’re raised in a strict religious upbringing. Love all three of y’all ! 😊
My 3 favorite people together again, love it. Sam was so strong and so passionate in this episode. Melissa truly opened up a lot and helped explain things so well. Thank you Amanda for always being amazing and talking about the tough topics, we need too. These kids and young adults especially need to hear it. They all need to hear it but I feel so strongly for the younger ones
Melissa, brilliant comment regarding a line. I am Catholic and always wished we were given a list of what we can and cannot do. I am in my mid 60's now with 2 married kids. They made life so hard
Another entertaining and insightful video from two great channels. When Melissa spoke about the chains of her past indoctrination making even the smallest decision difficult, it illustrated so well, to me how challenging deconstruction is.
This also makes so much sense as to why people like Priscilla said the thing she missed most about the order was being told what to do…no stressful decision making because they do it all for you and now you lack that skill and it because so scary
@@TheAmandaRaeGrant I love the fact that all you guys got through your individual trauma and flurish. All your stories are heartwarming and have helpful wisdom for dealing with all manner of harmful situations. I look forward to more content from you all soon; loved the relationship advice you and Val did too.
Part of my job is US west historical research, analysis etc. I'm struck by certain elements of western culture that the "Mormonist cults" embody. I think we've discounted both the impact of LDS history on western history, and a subtle thing I'm seeing where modern rural westerners become very entrenched in tradition & give it spiritual value, to a degree that shocks me in 2024. I think there must be more common elements between big picture LDS/Mormon history and the settler colonial experience in general. If I'm right, it's not good and we need to be very vigilant about this extreme behavior creeping further into public/community institutions.
You want to be vigilant about this behaviour creeping into institutions? What are you talking about? Mormons settled that area, they created all the institutions & made Utah a place ppl want to live. It’s becoming less Mormon not more, so what ideas do you feel you need to be so vigilant about?
I think you all are amazing and insightful. The fact that you’re so positive, introspective and willing to just search for your own individual truth in a loving way is amazing to me. To not be bitter and angry and take on a “victim” mentality shows your strength and courage and how “good” and “worthy”you all are! Thank you for another honest raw and heartfelt discussion! Love both of your channels! ❤
My great grandpa had to have my great grandma go ask her mother about sex after they got married. He tried explaining it, but she thought he was a creep. I'm still shocked that her mother didn't bother to at least tell her before she got married. For context: this was in the Bible belt around 1920.
I remember my maternal grandmother telling me that she didn’t know what sex was until she got married (in the late 1960s in Appalachia). She was 15 and my grandfather was 17. She was also extremely frustrated about a year into their marriage because she wasn’t getting pregnant - it turned out that the “medicine” she’d been taking since 12 for heavy periods was birth control and her parents had been taking too embarrassed to tell her what it was.
Warrens thoughts on “fun” is interesting since he believes in Joseph Smith and there are multiple records of him playing games with kids and making time for “fun”.
This is a great interview. You guys brought up 2 helpful things for me. 1) How these ideas can stick around for years even long after you don't believe them anymore. I think it can sometimes be hard when deconstructing. And then 2) The idea of making a list when you were no longer tithing so you could kind of deconstruct the magical thinking that this happened because you tithed. I'm thinking of trying this. Never Mormon, never tithed but I think it's useful idea that you could apply to many beliefs
It's hard bc I think it is one thing for a person to feel like their relationship with God is important and to make sure their life is not in contradiction of what they say they believe bc the reality is, if there is a God - then therefore a standard/morality that comes with that--then that would be very important thing to care about. I see that as different than someone feeling like they have to do everything perfectly by a very specific set of standards set by a organization, every little tiny detail has to be part of a church or group, doing certain rituals a certain way or means you don't get to heaven, etc- the scrupulosity Melissa was speaking of can be dangerous.
I completely agree with you. I believe in following God and the Holly Bible. Not a prophet or a church. Even though I attended a church for fellowship and encouragement in my faith. The church we attend is not a high demand church; like I grew up in
Very well said. Huge difference between biblical Christianity than these cults. Not saying Christian churches can’t turn into cults, but the New Testament just calls believers to gather for worship and fellowship. Not one man to rule over everyone and tell them how to dress, eat, act, what they can watch, who they can associate with. Not once does the Bible say that’s apart of following Christ!
It is fascinating what happens in communities as cults die out. The Church Universal & Triumphant used to control the town of Emigrant, MT, and there's still some sort of active group there, but nowdays tourists want to see if they can visit the town, which is very safe but dont trespass - they love their guns - and now there's a fun biker bar there. I can almost guarantee that in 10 yrs it will be overtaken by summer homes & there will be a fancy restaurant there. I guess rich people can gentrify anything lol!
Very interesting!! I am a cult fanatic. We just honeymooned in Emigrant in January and I had no idea it used to have a cult presence. I will have to look more into this
I LOVE WATCHING AND HEARING Y’ALL!!! Y’all are able to bring so much out of each other! Thank y’all for letting us be a part of this phenomenal relationship!!
One of my favorite questions my oldest kid asked when they were 15yo was why were there so many terms for guys that masturbate (like jack off) but not for girls. I didn’t have a great answer so we googled terms for girls & omg just soooo funny. We had such a great time learning those things together. Of course there were times I was not yet comfy about taking to them bc of their age or my own limitations, but that exactly how I’d reply to them - like I need some time to find a way to explain it, but when I do we’ll definitely have that conversation. My kids are now 23yo & 21yo, and I’ll say the hardest part about being open to your kids is the things they tell you about their own sex life. But on the flip side, they are very comfortable talking to doctors and communicating with their partners and standing their ground when it comes to boundaries & consent, as well as wanting the same for everyone else.
That`s an interesting point, I never thought about that there is few colloquialisms for masturbating for girls/women. By the way: I don`t know how exactly you meant that but it`s totally fine to set boundaries how much you want to hear about your childrens sex lives. In fact it`s normal and healthy to have boundaries there and it`s also fine to have the boundary that you wanna hear nothing about it, they can talk to their friends about that. That`s not shaming them, that`s just normal boundaries.
I'm so glad I found your content, i used to LOVE watching you on Escaping Polygamy!! I found your channel after watching a "Where are they now" about everyone on the show, and they mentioned you had a UA-cam channel and I just HAD to come find you!! I freaking LOVE you and everything about you!! I love your passion, I love how you get so annoyed with these people, I love that you call them out on their BS and it totally helps watching you when you're absolutely gorgeous!! ❤❤😁😁. I wish they'd bring the show back, i totally miss watching you guys, I know I'd watch if they brought it back and I'm sure I'm not the ONLY one!! From what I read, I heard part of the reason why they took it off the air was because of multiple trespassing lawsuits brought on against you girls and the network, is that true??? I find that very hard to believe when every house you guys went to, someone from the house invited you there!! So how could anyone bring a trespassing lawsuit against you or the network? It makes absolutely no sense to me. Anyways, keep up the great work, love your content, you've got another new subscriber as long as you're creating content!!
We stayed in hurricane for our honeymoon in 22 and tbh I was SHOCKED by how welcomed we were esp as a queer couple. Most bakeries wanted us to put a pin on their map from where we came from, there was a dinosour metal sculpture shop and a queer shaved ice place. It was a lot of fun seeing and NOTHING like I expected
Wow, I can't hear them when they speak. Amanda you are loud and clear, but the mic they are using isn't turned on. Sorry it was my earbud it was turned down really low. Sorry.....
I could hear Sam as clearly as Amanda, Melissa was a little less clear sometimes when she wasn't as close to the mic but most of the time she was clear too.
Mine was doing the same. I only listen with one headphone so I could barely hear amanda at all with one headphone and could barely hear Sam and Melissa with the other. I went into my sound settings and fiddled around and got it to where I could hear both perfect with one headphone. So maybe adjust your sound settings on your device.
For some reason when listening through headphones Amanda your mic only comes through the right earbud and Sam and Melissa’s mic only comes through my left earbud. Just a heads up about the sound!
Mine was doing the same. Except I only listen with one headphone so I could barely hear amanda at all with one headphone and could barely hear Sam and Melissa with the other. I went into my sound settings and fiddled around and got it to where I could hear both perfect with one headphone. So maybe adjust your sound settings on your device.
Whenever I hear about adults who don't even know the proper names for their body parts my brain hurts. My sisters and I were really good at science, so our parents made sure we knew about anatomy. We were always in the library getting science books way above our grade level. I don't remember having "the talk," because we were reading science books with the proper names for all body parts and their functions. It was always about the science, and not until we were 11 or 12 when mom made sure we knew how this scientific information tied with the feelings of teenage hormones.
Mine was doing the same. Except I only listen with one headphone so I could barely hear amanda at all with one headphone and could barely hear Sam and Melissa with the other. I went into my sound settings and fiddled around and got it to where I could hear both perfect with one headphone. So maybe adjust your sound settings on your device.
I remember watching the god squad in Escaping Polygamy and being so scared for you. I’m really glad the town has changed. Did you know Sam is an ex god squad member? Or at least, he drove his truck around to scare people a little. He didn’t seem to have the perception of god squad being militant like how the show portrayed it.
When absolutely everything having to do with avoiding sex and the human body is forbidden to be talked about it just increases the curiosity and setting the followers for abuses and to carry the abuse onto following generations such an injustice for men, women and children 😭😢💔
There not being an exact line on what is allowed concerning kissing and making out is on purpose. The church relies on binding their members to them by shame. What the church sells is your salvation from being a sinner, so they have to make sure you are a sinner. Making the lines blurry keeps you in a constant state of feeling guilt and shame because maybe you went too far?!?, so you need the church to repent and god to forgive you for being a sinner.
Your edit at the end wasn't needed. I thought your observation was astute and makes people think. Nevertheless, yes, you said what we immediately comes to mind with that statement. That is ALSO the problem with the IBLP Duggar cult!
That was an excellent video, so insightful! Im at a stage where my partner and I, are considering having children and I wonder how id explain the concept of religion to them when we are athiest ex cult members 😅 i dont want to keep them ignorant from the concepts, or immerse them in specific dogma either, but how to do that when neither of us think its real...mindblowing
As a European agnostic myself, I simply taught my kid religion from an historical viewpoint, the history of the many many religions and then i answered his questions on spirituality, death, creation explaining what i believe, what some of my friends believe and that it would be his own quest to figure out his beliefs. I insisted upon the facts that dogmas and spirituality are two very different things. As a result when he was 6 he was passionate about Greeks and Roman Gods, learning everything he could about them, then he switched to Egyptian old gods and so on. An when he was 10 he asked me to read, the Bible, The Torah, and The Quran. A third aspect of this journey was of course science, Astrophysics, Einstein relativy theory, the string theories and then Quantum physics. We live in an age where so many ressources are there for us to educate ourselves and our children. It's been a beautiful journey together and as he is only 13 i know it s an ongoing one.
Hej Folks, I rea 2:59 lly like Amanda..Itd really.Intresring to listen and learn all about the crayness thet polygami means in Western world...I have a god 🎉 friend in Indonesien Who had 4 wives.( 2vis dead) He builds houses to all wives, and provade for him..He has 14 kids and 50 gtandchildren.. a cuple of kids from wife 1 lives next to papi...He gets angry on peole getting a 2nd wife and and he doesnt take care for wife 1..My friend take care of those children. All children now lives with him.. If you not rich peple dont take xtra wifes..
I was raised Evangelical Chrisitan, in a very insular bubble that seemed a lot more normal than those weird culty Mormons. Except my sex ed was as repressed and pro-ignorance as yours. My parents never told me anything about anatomy, sexuality, sex, etc. I think my mother thought I would just be a spinster if she never told me about sex.
It’s so sweet to see Sam’s love and respect for his wife and just holding the mic for her not interrupting or anything
Every time you Sam & Melissa are in a room together, the chemistry is through the roof! I could listen to you all talk about cutting the grass. 😅 literally anything. But I’d much rather hear you talk about your upbringing!! Your lives are so parallel and spreading that knowledge into the world to “normies” like me - is always so powerful &. !uplifting! Can’t wait to watch this 20 times ❤ adore u all.
Agree!!!!!!!!
“I thought it was going to be something to do with a dump truck” took me out. 😂
Lmao I know!!! For a second I was like HOW? Lol where did your mind go thinking god was talking about dump trucks in the Bible? 😂
I love hearing the words 'earthly temptations'. We do live on planet earth right?!
I always thought religiously my background was the wildest eveeer. My mom was a catholic nun, left, married and had children. And then i learned about FLDS, the Order, AUB etc. 😂At that point i realized that i am so randomly "normal" haha.
I hope you all can learn to be yourself and not worry about who may or may not be offended. Having a glass of wine is not a sin. I know it’s hard when you’re raised in a strict religious upbringing. Love all three of y’all ! 😊
I really resonated with Melissa when she talked about taking the church as your identity and needing to check all the boxes. ❤ Thank you for sharing
My 3 favorite people together again, love it. Sam was so strong and so passionate in this episode. Melissa truly opened up a lot and helped explain things so well. Thank you Amanda for always being amazing and talking about the tough topics, we need too. These kids and young adults especially need to hear it. They all need to hear it but I feel so strongly for the younger ones
Amanda everytime you smile you are so alike with Cammy eskel and Rachel 😮 it’s unbelievable how alike you guys are! 😊
Melissa, brilliant comment regarding a line. I am Catholic and always wished we were given a list of what we can and cannot do. I am in my mid 60's now with 2 married kids. They made life so hard
Another entertaining and insightful video from two great channels. When Melissa spoke about the chains of her past indoctrination making even the smallest decision difficult, it illustrated so well, to me how challenging deconstruction is.
This also makes so much sense as to why people like Priscilla said the thing she missed most about the order was being told what to do…no stressful decision making because they do it all for you and now you lack that skill and it because so scary
@@TheAmandaRaeGrant I love the fact that all you guys got through your individual trauma and flurish. All your stories are heartwarming and have helpful wisdom for dealing with all manner of harmful situations. I look forward to more content from you all soon; loved the relationship advice you and Val did too.
Part of my job is US west historical research, analysis etc. I'm struck by certain elements of western culture that the "Mormonist cults" embody. I think we've discounted both the impact of LDS history on western history, and a subtle thing I'm seeing where modern rural westerners become very entrenched in tradition & give it spiritual value, to a degree that shocks me in 2024. I think there must be more common elements between big picture LDS/Mormon history and the settler colonial experience in general. If I'm right, it's not good and we need to be very vigilant about this extreme behavior creeping further into public/community institutions.
You want to be vigilant about this behaviour creeping into institutions? What are you talking about? Mormons settled that area, they created all the institutions & made Utah a place ppl want to live. It’s becoming less Mormon not more, so what ideas do you feel you need to be so vigilant about?
@@freyast2213you’re missing the point fam
@@freyast2213the entire point of that comment completely flew over your head. The entire point.
@@chloecagle6493I have never seen someone miss such a well articulated, clear point. Glad I wasn’t the only one thinking uhhh what 🥴
@@HellsFurby reading comprehension isn’t everyone’s strong suit 😅
Very good analysis using the roof crushing who you are and meant to be.
I think you all are amazing and insightful. The fact that you’re so positive, introspective and willing to just search for your own individual truth in a loving way is amazing to me. To not be bitter and angry and take on a “victim” mentality shows your strength and courage and how “good” and “worthy”you all are! Thank you for another honest raw and heartfelt discussion! Love both of your channels! ❤
My great grandpa had to have my great grandma go ask her mother about sex after they got married. He tried explaining it, but she thought he was a creep. I'm still shocked that her mother didn't bother to at least tell her before she got married. For context: this was in the Bible belt around 1920.
Married in 1979 and my mom said nothing except give him sex whenever he wants,
I remember my maternal grandmother telling me that she didn’t know what sex was until she got married (in the late 1960s in Appalachia). She was 15 and my grandfather was 17. She was also extremely frustrated about a year into their marriage because she wasn’t getting pregnant - it turned out that the “medicine” she’d been taking since 12 for heavy periods was birth control and her parents had been taking too embarrassed to tell her what it was.
about the edited explanation... the statement made perfect sense but the explanation was an interesting insight, love listening to your perspective
Warrens thoughts on “fun” is interesting since he believes in Joseph Smith and there are multiple records of him playing games with kids and making time for “fun”.
This is a great interview. You guys brought up 2 helpful things for me. 1) How these ideas can stick around for years even long after you don't believe them anymore. I think it can sometimes be hard when deconstructing. And then 2) The idea of making a list when you were no longer tithing so you could kind of deconstruct the magical thinking that this happened because you tithed. I'm thinking of trying this. Never Mormon, never tithed but I think it's useful idea that you could apply to many beliefs
I really love the souls you three are.
It's hard bc I think it is one thing for a person to feel like their relationship with God is important and to make sure their life is not in contradiction of what they say they believe bc the reality is, if there is a God - then therefore a standard/morality that comes with that--then that would be very important thing to care about.
I see that as different than someone feeling like they have to do everything perfectly by a very specific set of standards set by a organization, every little tiny detail has to be part of a church or group, doing certain rituals a certain way or means you don't get to heaven, etc- the scrupulosity Melissa was speaking of can be dangerous.
I completely agree with you. I believe in following God and the Holly Bible. Not a prophet or a church. Even though I attended a church for fellowship and encouragement in my faith. The church we attend is not a high demand church; like I grew up in
@@mienafriggstad3360 that's great! Same here
Very well said. Huge difference between biblical Christianity than these cults. Not saying Christian churches can’t turn into cults, but the New Testament just calls believers to gather for worship and fellowship. Not one man to rule over everyone and tell them how to dress, eat, act, what they can watch, who they can associate with. Not once does the Bible say that’s apart of following Christ!
It is fascinating what happens in communities as cults die out. The Church Universal & Triumphant used to control the town of Emigrant, MT, and there's still some sort of active group there, but nowdays tourists want to see if they can visit the town, which is very safe but dont trespass - they love their guns - and now there's a fun biker bar there. I can almost guarantee that in 10 yrs it will be overtaken by summer homes & there will be a fancy restaurant there. I guess rich people can gentrify anything lol!
Very interesting!! I am a cult fanatic. We just honeymooned in Emigrant in January and I had no idea it used to have a cult presence. I will have to look more into this
You mean WHITE rich people!! They gentrified just about everywhere they go!!
love this collaboration!! hope the lights turn green for all three 🎉
Great interview, I really enjoyed it. It’s like therapy for me, so thank you, you help me a lot 💞💓💞
24:30 Wow, that is so similar to the “narcissist’s prayer“ if you have heard of that before!
Wonderful episode. Thank you to the 3 of you for sharing so much.
Love this collaboration. I love both your channels
I LOVE WATCHING AND HEARING Y’ALL!!! Y’all are able to bring so much out of each other! Thank y’all for letting us be a part of this phenomenal relationship!!
Thank you!
One of my favorite questions my oldest kid asked when they were 15yo was why were there so many terms for guys that masturbate (like jack off) but not for girls. I didn’t have a great answer so we googled terms for girls & omg just soooo funny. We had such a great time learning those things together. Of course there were times I was not yet comfy about taking to them bc of their age or my own limitations, but that exactly how I’d reply to them - like I need some time to find a way to explain it, but when I do we’ll definitely have that conversation.
My kids are now 23yo & 21yo, and I’ll say the hardest part about being open to your kids is the things they tell you about their own sex life. But on the flip side, they are very comfortable talking to doctors and communicating with their partners and standing their ground when it comes to boundaries & consent, as well as wanting the same for everyone else.
That`s an interesting point, I never thought about that there is few colloquialisms for masturbating for girls/women.
By the way: I don`t know how exactly you meant that but it`s totally fine to set boundaries how much you want to hear about your childrens sex lives. In fact it`s normal and healthy to have boundaries there and it`s also fine to have the boundary that you wanna hear nothing about it, they can talk to their friends about that. That`s not shaming them, that`s just normal boundaries.
Great video! I love when yall collab together!
I'm so glad I found your content, i used to LOVE watching you on Escaping Polygamy!! I found your channel after watching a "Where are they now" about everyone on the show, and they mentioned you had a UA-cam channel and I just HAD to come find you!!
I freaking LOVE you and everything about you!! I love your passion, I love how you get so annoyed with these people, I love that you call them out on their BS and it totally helps watching you when you're absolutely gorgeous!! ❤❤😁😁. I wish they'd bring the show back, i totally miss watching you guys, I know I'd watch if they brought it back and I'm sure I'm not the ONLY one!!
From what I read, I heard part of the reason why they took it off the air was because of multiple trespassing lawsuits brought on against you girls and the network, is that true??? I find that very hard to believe when every house you guys went to, someone from the house invited you there!! So how could anyone bring a trespassing lawsuit against you or the network? It makes absolutely no sense to me. Anyways, keep up the great work, love your content, you've got another new subscriber as long as you're creating content!!
Love this interview! Great work
We stayed in hurricane for our honeymoon in 22 and tbh I was SHOCKED by how welcomed we were esp as a queer couple. Most bakeries wanted us to put a pin on their map from where we came from, there was a dinosour metal sculpture shop and a queer shaved ice place. It was a lot of fun seeing and NOTHING like I expected
Wow, I can't hear them when they speak. Amanda you are loud and clear, but the mic they are using isn't turned on. Sorry it was my earbud it was turned down really low. Sorry.....
I could hear Sam as clearly as Amanda, Melissa was a little less clear sometimes when she wasn't as close to the mic but most of the time she was clear too.
Mine was doing the same. I only listen with one headphone so I could barely hear amanda at all with one headphone and could barely hear Sam and Melissa with the other. I went into my sound settings and fiddled around and got it to where I could hear both perfect with one headphone. So maybe adjust your sound settings on your device.
I can't hear Sam and Melissa either
Loved this
For some reason when listening through headphones Amanda your mic only comes through the right earbud and Sam and Melissa’s mic only comes through my left earbud. Just a heads up about the sound!
Mine was doing the same. Except I only listen with one headphone so I could barely hear amanda at all with one headphone and could barely hear Sam and Melissa with the other. I went into my sound settings and fiddled around and got it to where I could hear both perfect with one headphone. So maybe adjust your sound settings on your device.
Whenever I hear about adults who don't even know the proper names for their body parts my brain hurts. My sisters and I were really good at science, so our parents made sure we knew about anatomy. We were always in the library getting science books way above our grade level. I don't remember having "the talk," because we were reading science books with the proper names for all body parts and their functions. It was always about the science, and not until we were 11 or 12 when mom made sure we knew how this scientific information tied with the feelings of teenage hormones.
Interesting audio; Sam and Melissa on the left channel. Amanda on the right
Mine was doing the same. Except I only listen with one headphone so I could barely hear amanda at all with one headphone and could barely hear Sam and Melissa with the other. I went into my sound settings and fiddled around and got it to where I could hear both perfect with one headphone. So maybe adjust your sound settings on your device.
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Melissa’s need to be 110% was a typical need for some of us that wanted to be “all in”
I remember watching the god squad in Escaping Polygamy and being so scared for you. I’m really glad the town has changed.
Did you know Sam is an ex god squad member? Or at least, he drove his truck around to scare people a little. He didn’t seem to have the perception of god squad being militant like how the show portrayed it.
The Seer stone looks like rounded off petrified wood.
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Great content, but sadly never ending editing/ audio issues :-( This channel is long enough on UA-cam to figure these things out.
When absolutely everything having to do with avoiding sex and the human body is forbidden to be talked about it just increases the curiosity and setting the followers for abuses and to carry the abuse onto following generations such an injustice for men, women and children 😭😢💔
Kody & Janelle were both born into the mainstream LDS (Kody even went on a mission).
There not being an exact line on what is allowed concerning kissing and making out is on purpose. The church relies on binding their members to them by shame. What the church sells is your salvation from being a sinner, so they have to make sure you are a sinner. Making the lines blurry keeps you in a constant state of feeling guilt and shame because maybe you went too far?!?, so you need the church to repent and god to forgive you for being a sinner.
Does The Order own Lee's Marketplace in SL, UT? Does anyone know?
Forgive and forget but consequences are an requirement to maintain an civil society
So so sweet to see the husband holding that mic for his wife from start to finish. What a gentlemen ❤ they still exist
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The stone is a big tigers eye. Pretty, but not Magic.
Your edit at the end wasn't needed. I thought your observation was astute and makes people think. Nevertheless, yes, you said what we immediately comes to mind with that statement.
That is ALSO the problem with the IBLP Duggar cult!
That was an excellent video, so insightful! Im at a stage where my partner and I, are considering having children and I wonder how id explain the concept of religion to them when we are athiest ex cult members 😅 i dont want to keep them ignorant from the concepts, or immerse them in specific dogma either, but how to do that when neither of us think its real...mindblowing
Just explain things like "the bible says" this or "some people believe" this. Then they get the idea that people believe in different things.
As a European agnostic myself, I simply taught my kid religion from an historical viewpoint, the history of the many many religions and then i answered his questions on spirituality, death, creation explaining what i believe, what some of my friends believe and that it would be his own quest to figure out his beliefs. I insisted upon the facts that dogmas and spirituality are two very different things. As a result when he was 6 he was passionate about Greeks and Roman Gods, learning everything he could about them, then he switched to Egyptian old gods and so on. An when he was 10 he asked me to read, the Bible, The Torah, and The Quran. A third aspect of this journey was of course science, Astrophysics, Einstein relativy theory, the string theories and then Quantum physics. We live in an age where so many ressources are there for us to educate ourselves and our children. It's been a beautiful journey together and as he is only 13 i know it s an ongoing one.
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Hej Folks, I rea 2:59 lly like Amanda..Itd really.Intresring to listen and learn all about the crayness thet polygami means in Western world...I have a god 🎉 friend in Indonesien Who had 4 wives.( 2vis dead) He builds houses to all wives, and provade for him..He has 14 kids and 50 gtandchildren.. a cuple of kids from wife 1 lives next to papi...He gets angry on peole getting a 2nd wife and and he doesnt take care for wife 1..My friend take care of those children. All children now lives with him.. If you not rich peple dont take xtra wifes..
Provade to her
I was raised Evangelical Chrisitan, in a very insular bubble that seemed a lot more normal than those weird culty Mormons. Except my sex ed was as repressed and pro-ignorance as yours. My parents never told me anything about anatomy, sexuality, sex, etc. I think my mother thought I would just be a spinster if she never told me about sex.
Using god or religion to justify hurting people is so gross. What’s the answer? How does a nobody like me help?
passed through "hurrikin" once and was appalled that they didn't pronounce it hurricane lol
Hurricane West Virginia is also pronounced Hurrikin.
Modesty is not a bad idea though. Dressing modestly like LDS can save you a lot of trouble in life.