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  • Опубліковано 19 сер 2018
  • We put the pricey 2018 BMW M4 with Competition Package against the more affordable 2018 Ford Mustang GT with Performance Package Level 2 on the track. Which one provided the most bang for the buck?
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  • @JamesPhieffer
    @JamesPhieffer 6 років тому +138

    It seems a significant part of her issues with the Mustang revolved around the the tires and the lack of the 10 speed in the Mustang. That was also the difference between the two at the drag strip.
    If you are going to compare these two cars, they should have both had either autos or sticks.

    • @vernonprice5986
      @vernonprice5986 6 років тому +16

      I agree with this - I don't even like Mustangs, but that drag time was bullshit. 2018 GTs are definitely faster than that.
      I'll reserve judgment on the PP2 itself until somebody compares it directly to the SS 1LE.

    • @PF-jn7xx
      @PF-jn7xx 6 років тому +20

      If the Mustang had an automatic it would have beat the M4 by an even wider margin. PP2 only comes in a manual.

    • @josephnicholls9640
      @josephnicholls9640 6 років тому +4

      The auto GT can do sub 4 seconds to 100 and sub 12 1/4 miles all day

    • @udmbfckx2916
      @udmbfckx2916 6 років тому +1

      Agreed....apples to apples, not apples to oranges

    • @thedeadpoet000
      @thedeadpoet000 5 років тому +3

      Also fresh tires. Wtf? Why not give the GT some fresh tires to compete properly.
      Agree auto vs auto. The 10spd for the GT has crazy acceleration.

  • @bigpoppa1992
    @bigpoppa1992 6 років тому +173

    Wow they need a driver mod if 5.3 seconds was the fastest they got to 60 lol

    • @331Grabber
      @331Grabber 6 років тому +12

      That's literally a half second slower than my old ass 2003 Mach 1 gets to 60. Someone wasn't shifting right :)

    • @bigpoppa1992
      @bigpoppa1992 6 років тому +17

      @@331Grabber thats more then 1 second slower then my tuned SHO. Granny shifting not double clutching like you should.

    • @milleniallgt9715
      @milleniallgt9715 6 років тому +5

      BIG POPPA should of had the 10 speed auto! Would be 3 or 4 seconds

    • @tayl0rd553
      @tayl0rd553 6 років тому +3

      They used the same driver to test both cars. Weight played no difference. That lady was just not very good at manual shifting. And the tires were shot on the Mustang.

    • @richardw3869
      @richardw3869 6 років тому +1

      You're absolutely correct. I did 4.6 in an Ecoboost yesterday that's what brought me here.

  • @SIgirlsRnoGood
    @SIgirlsRnoGood 6 років тому +98

    No way you had a pro driver after the mustang did a 0-60 in 5.3 seconds and a 13.3 1/4 mile

    • @chrism.728
      @chrism.728 6 років тому +5

      I think the driver only knows how to drive on the track, not the dragstrip. Mustang had almost bald tires too.

    • @vincenttrotta576
      @vincenttrotta576 5 років тому +3

      Totally agree !!!

    • @JamesWilliams-dj2bp
      @JamesWilliams-dj2bp 3 роки тому +1

      I got 4.4 seconds in my Boss on an unprepared track.

  • @saleen367
    @saleen367 6 років тому +19

    Hollie has a decent resume, but was obviously pretty biased in her assessment. Complaining about the sound of the V8? okay ... and the PP2 tires were tired (no pun), the auto M4 shifting so precisely, lol Perhaps a driver change is in order for the next test ... just sayin.

  • @moneyparhar
    @moneyparhar 6 років тому +14

    Paying $90k for BMW is insane
    Its gona be like 40k in couple of years

    • @_jovian
      @_jovian 4 роки тому +5

      thats why you wait a few years and buy the 90k car for 40k used

    • @gil4812
      @gil4812 4 роки тому +1

      It's 40-50k for a good used one now. Which makes me a happy boy

    • @_jovian
      @_jovian 4 роки тому +3

      @@gil4812 yeah man, I got mine for $40k with 30k miles. Dude I bought it from bought it for 60k 18 months earlier and owed more than sold it for. That's a little scary as far as depreciation goes but they usually settle in the 30s range, not that I plan on selling it anytime soon. Even E92s still sell for high 20s.

  • @325hpls1
    @325hpls1 6 років тому +16

    They actually really need drivers for the zero to 60 and quarter mile. I've done a 4.6 and a 12.88 in 6 spd 16 GT(track apps verified). I work for Ford dealer and constantly Drive these I have not tested out the 2018...yet!

  • @Matts000
    @Matts000 6 років тому +383

    The BMW sounds better???? What the hell is she smokin! Lol

    • @Icygt500
      @Icygt500 6 років тому +38

      She know nothing about cars

    • @abrahamg3354
      @abrahamg3354 6 років тому +4

      A lot of normal and barely car guys actually choose the BMW F80s sound than a V8. According to a video I saw, majority choose the F80 than the Corvette in terms of sound.

    • @motonvipr
      @motonvipr 6 років тому +11

      Probably smoking BMW's pole

    • @FUNZO1975
      @FUNZO1975 6 років тому

      @@Icygt500 loop

    • @SR20SSS
      @SR20SSS 6 років тому +1

      massiver cock

  • @331Grabber
    @331Grabber 6 років тому +33

    That's the slowest 0-60 and 1/4 mile time I have ever seen for a manual 2018 Mustang. That Mustang should be in the low 4's to 60, low 12s in the 1/4 and near 116 trap speed. Blah. Hell, My lightly modded elderly 2003 Mach 1 5-Speed gets to 60 in 4.8 and 12.90s at 109 in the 1/4.

    • @alexanabolic5099
      @alexanabolic5099 6 років тому

      For auto yes, but this is not what I saw for the manual. The new mustang is fast because of the auto trans. The manual is just soso, from what I saw. This casr has power in the upper range of the rmp, the manual gearing is not helping much and sticky tire on a sticky track are not helping in that case, in fact it is worst. I have some experience at the track, and launching a manual car on a well prep track with sticky tire is not easy unless you are willing to break things. It is especially harder with a car that does not have plenty of torque at low rmp, like the mustang.

    • @alexanabolic5099
      @alexanabolic5099 6 років тому

      Justen Galacia you do realize your not stock? When I am at the track 9/10 mustang run in 13 at the track.

    • @ShelbygtR-wo8wh
      @ShelbygtR-wo8wh 5 років тому +1

      @@alexanabolic5099 Motortrend tested the PP2 on August 14, 2018 ,0-60=4.3sec 1/4 =12.6 sec @ 113.5 mph
      www.motortrend.com/cars/ford/mustang/2018/2018-ford-mustang-gt-performance-pack-level-2-first-test-review/

    • @mr.excitement689
      @mr.excitement689 5 років тому +2

      Even the 2013-2014 gt were running 12.5-12.7. 12.7 was a safe bet with a good driver. The 2018 is underrated and is probably making about 500 crank hp. No way it should be running that slow. Either that car is beat to shit or there is driver error.

    • @331Grabber
      @331Grabber 5 років тому

      @@mr.excitement689
      Honestly if the 2018 6M had last year's better manual with 5th being the 1:1 ratio instead of the mega tall ratio 4th 1:1 2018 6M, it would make a big difference. If I get one I'm swapping in an older better MT-82

  • @integrafreak1
    @integrafreak1 6 років тому +226

    Any further opinions were nullified as soon as she said the M4 with sounded better

    • @silversonic99
      @silversonic99 6 років тому +7

      Louder doesn't mean better. Some people prefer the more subtle roar.

    • @Bomenix14
      @Bomenix14 6 років тому +1

      A performance exhaust helps a lot. Helps the engine breathe meaning youll be a bit faster and betters the noise.

    • @silversonic99
      @silversonic99 6 років тому +3

      @Lincoln LS no she's not. Stop lying to try and make yourself right.

    • @silversonic99
      @silversonic99 6 років тому

      @Lincoln LS you very clearly have no idea what you are talking about. She is a raceway driver. She does promotional stuff for different companies like any driver does. That does not make her a spokesperson for bmw

    • @silversonic99
      @silversonic99 6 років тому +2

      @Lincoln LS careful, your lack of intelligence is showing. I think you should look up what a spokesperson is. Not that it matters, but I prefer the mustang. I'm just trying to stop children like yourself from spreading false information because someone has a different opinion than you. Grow up.

  • @bigpoppa1992
    @bigpoppa1992 6 років тому +61

    That mustang driver must of been granny shifting not double clutching like they should to get 5.3 seconds to 60

  • @woman.driven
    @woman.driven 6 років тому +170

    Definitely not a fan of how the M4 sounds. There is just no comparison. GT ftw.

    • @autotrimmers6353
      @autotrimmers6353 6 років тому +2

      Woman.Driven ur 100% right babygirl

    • @udmbfckx2916
      @udmbfckx2916 6 років тому +1

      Can't believe she said that!

    • @youtubemanswagroy212
      @youtubemanswagroy212 6 років тому +4

      Woman.Driven im all about german and japan cars but i agree the gt is better

    • @ActivM4
      @ActivM4 6 років тому

      All you have to do is add a AWE exhaust.

    • @AG-oz4qt
      @AG-oz4qt 6 років тому +1

      Woman.Driven When you see them M4s in person you can't deny they look so freaking sexy. The looks shit on the Gt for sure and performance too. But for half the price, obviously gt for most people

  • @cadsux
    @cadsux 6 років тому +43

    It's more like a mash-up. $87,000 vs $46,000. Inline 6 turbo vs n/a V8. Dual-clutch vs manual transmission. Luxury vs Recaro seats.

    • @dyljw23495
      @dyljw23495 6 років тому +3

      Those BMW seats are cloth lmao. Hardly luxury. Go sit in an m4 they're pretty cheap...

    • @MM-su4gu
      @MM-su4gu 6 років тому +1

      Chocolate Milk I’ve driven an m3 competition and they do actually feel cheap

    • @cadsux
      @cadsux 6 років тому +4

      I agree. But hey, that's what they call them at that price. The same goes for a $95k Tesla S with Vegan seats! Thin and cheap. And that's why I own a Mustang GT Premium.

    • @dyljw23495
      @dyljw23495 6 років тому

      ATTA BOIII CADSUX

    • @youtubemanswagroy212
      @youtubemanswagroy212 6 років тому

      But sound like ass

  • @Jedi391
    @Jedi391 6 років тому +102

    She’s their track driver? She prefers a “baby tiger growl” to the exhaust note of the Mustang? She prefers an automatic transmission to a manual on the track? You guys can’t get Randy Probst or someone who’s actually a car guy and can get around a track fast?

    • @gavinbooshu4737
      @gavinbooshu4737 6 років тому +4

      Jedi391 she prefers micro penis too anything else. lol

    • @brandone1289
      @brandone1289 6 років тому +6

      Automatic is better for the track you can’t deny that tho

    • @Jedi391
      @Jedi391 6 років тому +3

      YoungSnagGod not if you enjoy driving and want to really interact with the car. And it doesn’t seem to have hurt the Mustang in this comparison since it won by 2 seconds. For the dragstrip sure but real car guys run the track with a manual.

    • @silversonic99
      @silversonic99 6 років тому +2

      What is your deal? It's just her preference. Not everyone likes loud cars and the only difference between modern manual and automatic is manual give you busy work while you drive. Let people do what they want.

    • @Jedi391
      @Jedi391 6 років тому +2

      silversonic99 this video is aimed at performance car enthusiasts. What enthusiast wants a quiet performance car? The part about the automatic, I’m not sure what you were tying to write there, talk to text maybe? Anyways, the video is a review where opinions are given if I’m not mistaken and the comments are where viewers can add their opinions. Which is what I did. As for people doing what they want, can you point out where I said people couldn’t do something? We’re all entitled to express our opinions after all, what’s your deal?

  • @AG.0
    @AG.0 6 років тому +53

    He really trying to up sell that mustang kinda felt that tone thru the video lol

    • @letsgopoop123
      @letsgopoop123 6 років тому +10

      A G because she was all about m4 sooo

    • @paulomoniz7326
      @paulomoniz7326 6 років тому +3

      totally, he got mad when the girl told him the M4 was better.

    • @JTMoodie2
      @JTMoodie2 6 років тому +1

      Exactly. Let the driver speak. Shes the pro here. Pretty sure everyone else just had american bias. They cant just let greatness speak for itself

    • @letsgopoop123
      @letsgopoop123 6 років тому +6

      Jt Moodie truth hurts. Mustang is better

    • @JTMoodie2
      @JTMoodie2 6 років тому +4

      @@letsgopoop123 i strongly disagree. Maybe higher trim levels can beat this trim of the M4, but not the Comp2. They couldnt even use the Comp1 lol, shows you how much they need to put into beating this M4. I dont think the mustang is bad, but the M4 comes from winning heratige. It has that soul and is overall still the better drivers car. Thats the premium you pay for, not something 2nd best

  • @IMGONEIN60
    @IMGONEIN60 6 років тому +2

    You cannot get the performance package2 on the mustang in an automatic it comes in six speed manual only I’m not sure about the BMW. But if manual was available you should have used it in the BMW also?

  • @geoffkh463
    @geoffkh463 6 років тому

    If both cars were Approx same price (like here in th UK) what would you choose ?

  • @JakeTiesler
    @JakeTiesler 5 років тому +7

    Two seconds faster around the track and half the price, with a V8 sound and looks to kill. Easy win Mustang!

    • @supaahflyy
      @supaahflyy 3 роки тому +2

      That's entirely to do with the tyres being cup 2's. Same tyres and the Mustang gets its pants taken down. Go drive one. Feels like a large boat that wallows around. M4 competition is another league bro.
      Either way a buyer for each of these aren't cross shopping let's be honest. An M4 buyer is cross shopping a C63, RS5, giula QV and maybe a 911. Different league altogether

  • @turo302
    @turo302 5 років тому +13

    What the hell 😂 how do you run not even a .2 second faster quarter mile in a 460 hp mustang when i got a 13.5 in my old 2002 with 260hp 💀 trash drivers

    • @blackgt19
      @blackgt19 4 роки тому +1

      He cant drive and hes overweight weighing the car down

    • @supaahflyy
      @supaahflyy 3 роки тому

      It's a really terrible engine and transmission that's why. Americans think big number = good. But they don't ask how does the car produce that number.
      I test drove one just today infact and the power delivery is complete rubbish. It feels like it has huge turbo lag...when it doesn't even have a turbo charger. No low down torque, the transmission would change gears down to do the slightest bit of acceleration.
      That's how they keep the car costing so little. It's a terrible engine and transmission combo. But that's what little engineering gets you and the price point.
      BMW engineers clearly care about power delivery and not just raw numbers. Drive an M4 and a car with twin turbos has more linear power delivery and instant throttle response compared to the Mustang. It's worlds apart. But then again that's why it costs more. Engineering is a world apart

    • @LordGwynn
      @LordGwynn 5 місяців тому

      @flyy You have no idea what you're talking about kid, literally talking out of your ass

    • @supaahflyy
      @supaahflyy 5 місяців тому

      @@LordGwynn everyone knows Amercian engineering is trash buddy. Go back to shaving that neckbeard

  • @ahusic705
    @ahusic705 5 років тому

    How come half the 2018 mustang's I see dont have the new digital speedometer? Anyone

  • @libertyjungle-musicproduct3059
    @libertyjungle-musicproduct3059 5 років тому +3

    Mustang 10 speed , launch control 0-60 4,2 sec, with the right conditions 3,9 sec

  • @renegarcia7591
    @renegarcia7591 6 років тому +20

    You should have compared the bmw against a 10 speed auto. Auto vs auto

    • @IMGONEIN60
      @IMGONEIN60 6 років тому +1

      Rene Garcia performance package to only comes in manual so they should have used a manual BMW if possible.

    • @ishanbose7161
      @ishanbose7161 5 років тому

      Rene Garcia the PP2 in the Mustang is stick shift only.

  • @SaltPepperMilk
    @SaltPepperMilk 6 років тому +13

    Lol 5.32 sec?! My stick shift V6 Mustang ran a 5.1😂

  • @Reypadd
    @Reypadd 5 років тому +1

    What’s the elevation of this 1/4 track? That 108mph is crazy low; must be at 5000 ft. above sea level.

  • @SkaNarrator
    @SkaNarrator 5 років тому

    Why do the headlights flicker like that?

  • @samuelizuelu2120
    @samuelizuelu2120 5 років тому +6

    Mustang all the way, I so much love Ford cars, even my wife love Ford cars all the way from Ghana in West Africa

  • @gen1c8rs88
    @gen1c8rs88 6 років тому +4

    Liked the video but the acceleration times especially the Mustang' s could have been done more astutely; 3.8 vs 4.15 and 4.3 vs 5.32.

  • @A.ChristopherJohnson
    @A.ChristopherJohnson 5 років тому

    Boss, how tall are you brother, because I'm thinking about getting the pp2 my man ?

  • @des1gno
    @des1gno 6 років тому

    Can you please do a comparison with equal value ??
    Or just do 2018 Bmw m2 competition vs 2018 ford mustang gt

  • @fread51
    @fread51 6 років тому +7

    This is funny because the Shelby GT350 already stumped the BMW M4 competition pack

    • @cjthagod5431
      @cjthagod5431 6 років тому +1

      Latvietis96 that was on some shitty training track😂😂😂😂

    • @GODWITHUS0712
      @GODWITHUS0712 5 років тому

      @Latvietis96 you know that Bias BMW guy in that segment chose the Mustang for overall price and performance over the BMW as well.

  • @thejtcouple
    @thejtcouple 6 років тому +7

    Sorry but mustang hands down everything from the look especially with that orange furry color 🤤 to that monster v8 sound and price which is much lower then $48K too $48k is with performance pack, interior and etc options but you can easily get one around $35K if you just want a beast car with out all that other stuff which even the base model interior isn’t even that bad. So yea mustang GT all the way. M4 is nice just over priced and way better options like a zl1, z06, gt350r and etc

  • @English2Elvish
    @English2Elvish 3 роки тому +2

    Picked up my 2020 301A PP2 and couldn't be happier! :D

  • @gamingps485
    @gamingps485 5 років тому

    Which one is the best for drifting ?

  • @ST-Vidz
    @ST-Vidz 6 років тому +15

    iPhone X - BMW
    Samsung Galaxy - Mustang.
    There is a reason for the markup.

    • @ST-Vidz
      @ST-Vidz 6 років тому +4

      @Nickolai SiegfriedI am so extremely Sorry your momma dropped you on your head boy...

    • @christiancaskey9828
      @christiancaskey9828 5 років тому +4

      I don’t think so you guys can’t afford m4’s that’s why m4 is faster sorry to tell you I own a gt350r and a m4 m4 wins everytime drag or track or street m4 transmissions are unbeatable but gt350r is a lot of fun

    • @daevster6663
      @daevster6663 5 років тому

      Lol you get what ya pay for

    • @ebeebe9993
      @ebeebe9993 5 років тому

      XDD FACT

    • @Rambo9700
      @Rambo9700 5 років тому

      BMW will still be working many years after the Ford has been scrapped.

  • @alexanabolic5099
    @alexanabolic5099 6 років тому +15

    Unless they put the same set of tire or at least equivalent, the track test is invalid.

    • @Logan-ty4ib
      @Logan-ty4ib 6 років тому +4

      Theyre compared stock for stock. Thats like saying a drag race between a Mustang and a Hellcat is invalid because one isnt supercharged.

    • @alexanabolic5099
      @alexanabolic5099 6 років тому +6

      Are you serious? Following your line of tough maybe we should bring owner as drivers too and insist both car have the original fuel in the tank? Don't do the breaking process as we will need to change the oil and the car won't be stock anymore? Why not race both car when it's raining with OEM tires then? You don't see the non-sense here? I don't care about either the mustang or the M4, but I cannot stand half ass comparison testing like that.

    • @thisislife9911
      @thisislife9911 5 років тому +1

      the mustang wasnt stock, the tires and the suspension was altered for track.

    • @saxahorn1475
      @saxahorn1475 5 років тому +2

      This is Life are you dumb? The pp2 comes stick from the factory buddy 😂😂

  • @videomaniac108
    @videomaniac108 5 років тому

    What gives with the Mustang's dismal 0 to 60 time? I see the Mustang's 0 to 60 times clustering in the 3.9 - 4.4 second range on the web.

  • @briarbrain7978
    @briarbrain7978 5 років тому +2

    Addendum: BMW's corporate agenda is to sell cars to people who think they are better built while selling cars like the 750iL whose V10's tendency to self destruct due to inadequate lube of the rod bearings was well known but BMW continued using the same engine (albeit as a V8) in the normally aspirated M3's with the same result! Now THAT's corporate integrity.
    Plus my 15 GT looks better dirty than any BMW looks clean....

  • @kaoshonen
    @kaoshonen 6 років тому +23

    How the times have changed... Who would have guessed Mustang would be faster around a circuit and M4 would be faster at the drag strip.

    • @averageinvestor4986
      @averageinvestor4986 6 років тому +13

      kaoshonen Its really not. The actual 10 speed is quicker

    • @MrDede2011
      @MrDede2011 6 років тому

      kaoshonen yeah I think something wrong with their testing

    • @swanblake
      @swanblake 6 років тому +4

      I would. BMW has been awful for years

    • @kells18
      @kells18 6 років тому

      Josh's 3v the 10speed is not faster on a track either, drag strip yes though. If the pp1 has the tuning and tires of the pp2 then yes it would be. Just go one video back pp1 vs pp2.

    • @averageinvestor4986
      @averageinvestor4986 6 років тому

      kells18 I meant on the drag strip

  • @alexsalvador3370
    @alexsalvador3370 4 роки тому +3

    Mustang all the way! This is even without taking into consideration the amount of the parts and maintenance expenses

  • @weirdj973
    @weirdj973 5 років тому

    I don't how I only have the base stick shift gt with its garbage tires and i'm still able to pull a better drag time

  • @1904RICK1
    @1904RICK1 6 років тому +1

    Great comparison video...I’m waiting on a 2019 PP2 GT right now ordered to my spec. My wife has a 2018 C43 so we’ll have the best of both worlds.

  • @PF-jn7xx
    @PF-jn7xx 6 років тому +53

    M4 double the price, and slower around the track. Enough said. Great job FORD!!

    • @MM-su4gu
      @MM-su4gu 6 років тому +2

      P F m4s are also twin turboed and the mustang is NA. TT a mustang 5.0 and they’re gone in a straight line

    • @PF-jn7xx
      @PF-jn7xx 6 років тому +2

      m1vn absolutely, or add a whipple or Roush supercharger and get well over 700 horses.

    • @MM-su4gu
      @MM-su4gu 6 років тому +1

      P F and especially the Paxton superchargers but nothing will outrun tt coyotes

    • @PF-jn7xx
      @PF-jn7xx 6 років тому +1

      m1vn yeah buddy! tt at around 1200 hp insane!!!.....not a daily driver anymore IMO....transmission needs to be upgraded to handle all that torque.

    • @LegendInThaMakin
      @LegendInThaMakin 6 років тому +1

      m1vn tt vipers are the fastest rwd cars on the planet.

  • @DevPack
    @DevPack 6 років тому +84

    Mustang is faster around a track and a m4. Imagine what a gt350 would do lol.

    • @thorandmoljnir
      @thorandmoljnir 6 років тому +7

      The GT350 would probably blow its engine.

    • @DevPack
      @DevPack 6 років тому +36

      wtf are you talking about 5.2L is one of the most reliable engines. Revs to 8250rpm. Would trash any BMW around any track.

    • @rockefelleragent1357
      @rockefelleragent1357 6 років тому +7

      GT350 is slower than the '18 Stang Automatic. And the comparison in this video has flaw / biased. Take them to more tracks and with proper preparation and you will see Stang losing to the M4. So if GT350 was to compete it would lose to the M4 even more.

    • @aidenp5768
      @aidenp5768 6 років тому +3

      DevPack
      Mustang is 2 seconds faster but then we have the straight line performance and the M4 beats it by almost 2 seconds on the quarter. Lol with the wider tires the Mustang still lost. GT350 is faster than a M4 obviously but that’s why they have the M4 GTS. Also the Mustang Gt350 whatever beats the M4 GTS. But BMW isn’t done with the M4 yet before it dies in a year or two BMW is planning to make one more last performance version maybe called the M4 CSL. Check on UA-cam it looks kind of weird but it looks like a baby Senna running around.

    • @DevPack
      @DevPack 6 років тому +11

      with the 10spd auto the mustang is faster than the m4 in a straight line as well. Easily!

  • @hbhamilton3410
    @hbhamilton3410 6 років тому +2

    I believe the PP2 Mustang is only available with a 6-speed MT.

  • @stevenpereira6475
    @stevenpereira6475 6 років тому +2

    By the sound of the engine it took 5 seconds to shift a gear...lol

  • @shiftlight314
    @shiftlight314 6 років тому +11

    someone can't drive

  • @abrahamg3354
    @abrahamg3354 6 років тому +8

    Funny. That M4 didn't have the competition package. Yet it still kickin ass since 2015. 2018 BMWs are on their way out. Can't wait for the new 2020 M cars.

    • @Logan-ty4ib
      @Logan-ty4ib 6 років тому +1

      Kicking ass 2 seconds behind a Mustang, but sure. Kicking ass somewhere.

    • @youtubemanswagroy212
      @youtubemanswagroy212 6 років тому

      If only they dident sound like blenders

    • @MM-su4gu
      @MM-su4gu 5 років тому

      abraham G you can get the competition package with 19 inch rims too

    • @abrahamg3354
      @abrahamg3354 5 років тому

      I just tried, it doesnt allow.

    • @abrahamg3354
      @abrahamg3354 5 років тому

      actually your right. F me. Who would add standards on a ZCP anyways? smh

  • @Condor1970
    @Condor1970 5 років тому +2

    5.2 seconds for the Mustang only means their so-called "Pro" driver wasn't much of a Pro. MotorTrend, and Car and Driver magazines both managed to get 4.3 an 4.2 second 0-60 times with experienced drivers in the regular PP1 MT-82 packages.

  • @robertwilliams5507
    @robertwilliams5507 6 років тому

    Why didn't you use the 10 speed??????

  • @tayl0rd553
    @tayl0rd553 6 років тому +7

    The Mustang's tires were shot, and it was still 2 seconds faster than the M4?? Some fresh Cup 2 tires would've been really bad!

  • @Gltokensp06
    @Gltokensp06 6 років тому +9

    Whoever drove that Mustang to produce a 5.3 second 0-60 should be fired. Even with a manual transmission, that car should be more than a second faster to 60. That is incompetent driving if I've ever heard it.

  • @cyberspd
    @cyberspd 5 років тому

    I believe track mode in a pp1 level Mustang changes shift points. Not necessary in a 6 speed manual obviously

  • @ChrisLeiter
    @ChrisLeiter 5 років тому +2

    these new Mustangs are really good looking and sound great.. I've never been a huge Ford fan, but these are definitely performance bargains... may very well be a second vehicle contender...

  • @gene978
    @gene978 6 років тому +19

    She said she preferred the M4 so why even have her drive both head to head and giver her opinion if you want her to change it to suit your video. The name of the video isn’t “Is the Mustang a a good deal and Track car? it’s which one is better!

    • @no_fb
      @no_fb 6 років тому +1

      Yeah, that wasn't very subtle.

    • @JahyMoonwalker
      @JahyMoonwalker 6 років тому +2

      The mustang with $10k towards a turbo and $30k left over is far better.
      Honestly they should have used the 10 speed auto in the mustang for a better comparison.

  • @IMGONEIN60
    @IMGONEIN60 6 років тому +20

    It really shows goes to show this girl was biased she just likes BMWs two seconds on a road course is huge actually embarrassing she also stated she liked the way the BMW sounded better than she liked the mustang WTF. She also stated the mustang would’ve been even faster if it’s tires wouldn’t have been worn what world is she living in? All I can say is the quarter mile times for that mustang were way off those are actually eco-boost mustang quarter-mile times no BS!

    • @IMGONEIN60
      @IMGONEIN60 6 років тому

      jamie oxenreider lmfao...

    • @ivochicr1
      @ivochicr1 6 років тому +1

      Fak you stupid! If she likes beemer let her like it, faknis wrong with you? Theres a reason you can choose between cars so you get what you like. What is it, everybody needs to like mustangs now? Gtfoh

    • @team_cartooney6559
      @team_cartooney6559 6 років тому +1

      @@ivochicr1 shut yo bitch ass Up

    • @victorkenarsy3024
      @victorkenarsy3024 5 років тому

      IMGONEIN60 She chose the Stang in the end. You mad because she didn’t prefer the Murcia mobile until price became an issue?

  • @user-zb6ez4jl3u
    @user-zb6ez4jl3u 6 років тому

    How is this a 2018 bmw m4? With no competition Rims or new lights????

  • @paulgardner9763
    @paulgardner9763 Рік тому +1

    Superb vid, well done all! Two fantastic cars. Bought a Mustang GT at Xmas and loving it. M4 clearly another rapid M Car too

  • @eeehmmwhat2406
    @eeehmmwhat2406 6 років тому +6

    Half the price and double the fun and better sound. Love it

  • @BP-fx3qc
    @BP-fx3qc 6 років тому +11

    Mustang all day

  • @spitfire9610
    @spitfire9610 6 років тому +1

    GT PP2 does not go 0-60 in 5.3 driver error.

  • @bigrocc3925
    @bigrocc3925 4 роки тому +1

    how tf u get those drag numbers lmfao, u need a driver mod!

  • @vernonprice5986
    @vernonprice5986 6 років тому +13

    "Can you have as much fun on a track day for a little bit less money?"
    Yeah, for what that M4 costs, or less, you can get a Corvette Z06, a Grand Sport, a Stingray Z51, a Camaro SS 1LE, a Camaro ZL1, a Camaro ZL1 1LE, a Cadillac ATS-V or a Cadillac CTS-V.
    Does that answer your question?

    • @Slowwagonftl
      @Slowwagonftl 5 років тому

      Vernon Price ding ding ^^

    • @saxahorn1475
      @saxahorn1475 5 років тому

      Or a Shelby

    • @guillermolopez1690
      @guillermolopez1690 5 років тому +2

      M cars were not meant to be excellent at 1 thing, they were meant to be good at everything. Good luck finding all of the Speed, handling, luxury, build quality, practicality, and pedigree of an M3 or a C63 in only one of those cars.

  • @strykerman7888
    @strykerman7888 6 років тому +208

    The BMW sounds like garbage compared to the Mustang.

    • @gbonze1783
      @gbonze1783 6 років тому +2

      Stryker Man yea I agree I don’t like the sound of inline 6 cylinder engines

    • @NORxDRONExAT01
      @NORxDRONExAT01 6 років тому

      Gbonze17
      Not any of them? I had a BMW 320i e36 with full 2,5" DTM exhaust and it sounded nowhere near the M4

    • @zackru5h850
      @zackru5h850 6 років тому +1

      fOwl play I love the n/a bmw i6s, but the turbos just kill it entirely for me

    • @dasdimplz6885
      @dasdimplz6885 5 років тому +1

      Yes. Sure. Typical Americunt rhetoric - if we yell louder, we must be better, yet we haven't won a war in about 150 years, because we are a bunch of retarded, back-water morons. Sure. The technology in the M4, and most of Western Europe should make you weep. MURICA, eh?

    • @joshu-bass5426
      @joshu-bass5426 5 років тому +1

      @@dasdimplz6885 woah look guys we got a little girl on his period

  • @phantomiohernandez4183
    @phantomiohernandez4183 2 роки тому

    I had a 2014 gtcs now 2019 gtcs and I'm really impressed there is so much difference

  • @keywestalert6329
    @keywestalert6329 5 років тому

    Ok review, i want to know if its a drivers car. Like realistic things, such as if i were to go out to dinner is it good for suits? Does it have good comfort? Is it good for the realistic track? Like once a month track ... woukd it break? Does it havr a good trunk size?
    I own not a sports car, but ive been researching for something realiable ive heard too many lambos and mercedes breaking on the road. I do not want that.
    I would like to not daily drive the sports car, but i would like to drive it to a nice dinner and not be stuck on the side of the road. The charger has been one of those, but the camaro is the bang for the buck very greatly.

  • @6ixspeedstang186
    @6ixspeedstang186 6 років тому +6

    Might as well should have used the gt350. It's still under $70,000 and would probably be a better competitor. I feel like the standard should have been compared to the M2 if we're going price vs price. Both cars are nice. By the way people complaining about the 0-60. You have to remember in a manual car, EVERYTHING DEPENDS ON THE DRIVER. If the driver can't shift the car the way it should be then the car won't get the acceleration times that it should. This is just about the only time I agree that the 10speed auto pp1 should have been used just to take out the lack of straight line gear slamming from whoever did the testing. I feel like for acceleration tests in a manual a "street racer" should be used. Someone who can slam gears with some muscle. Not a tender clutch in..... shift..... clutch out.... gas. It should be all one motion.

  • @ricardogomez6555
    @ricardogomez6555 6 років тому +7

    a real mans car is a car with balls not a little fancy ass toy ...

  • @LoveLikeaHurricane
    @LoveLikeaHurricane 6 років тому +1

    If he sits any closer the air bag might injure him.....
    Even though I think he is too far back for any track driving

  • @dregzartmedia4062
    @dregzartmedia4062 6 років тому

    Power to weight is important in racing driver mod don’t help if the passenger weighs too much.

  • @RomaneMaticaliseGordon
    @RomaneMaticaliseGordon 6 років тому +15

    A good idea for a mashup. The Mustang kicks the overpriced bmw’s ass all the way back to Germany

    • @chrism.728
      @chrism.728 6 років тому +4

      The new Mustangs are also selling great in Germany. I guess ze Germans love American muscle too.

    • @midwestsneakerhead6511
      @midwestsneakerhead6511 6 років тому +3

      Chris M. Who doesn’t love American muscle!! It’s so badass!! Especially Mustang’s with rwd a manual transmission and big Ol’ V8!!👍👍

    • @SalsaColombiaUS
      @SalsaColombiaUS 5 років тому

      It makes me want to buy one!!!!!!!!!

    • @MM-su4gu
      @MM-su4gu 5 років тому

      ua-cam.com/video/DSvUTjE4Xk4/v-deo.html

  • @christophermitchell9929
    @christophermitchell9929 5 років тому +8

    "Tiger cub roar"? She lost all credibility when I heard that.

  • @Joshua07A
    @Joshua07A 5 років тому

    Wheres Jason Camisa, Randy Post & Motor trend to review these two cars. They kicked ass in the M4 vs 6gen Camaro review.

  • @stuntedcbr
    @stuntedcbr 5 років тому +2

    Holding technology against Bmw cuz you want to have “track day” is not fair . Not the Germans fault the e46 probably had the same technology as that beat ass mustang

  • @llcj27
    @llcj27 6 років тому +6

    Der BMW hat bestimmt auch so einen Lautsprechersound wie Audi das hat, zum totlachen ist das. Einfach nur peinlich der Klang. Der Mustang hat eine Seele, das wird ein BMW, Mercedes, oder Audi niemals haben. Die Autos werden schneller und schneller und ein Auto was heute gut ist, ist Morgen überholt und schlecht, aber nur der Mustang bleibt für immer mit Seele und ist immer Kult. The Mustang is back and he is better than ever. I love that car.

    • @thomaschung4711
      @thomaschung4711 6 років тому

      was los ist heraus? der bmw oben den ganzen erde. must was? beschissen fahrzeug. rice+kraut+spaghetti burner = must verbrennungsmotor. ich bestehe darauf.

  • @skillz1855
    @skillz1855 6 років тому +6

    Mustang sounds much better
    And why send a Pony car with bald front tires to a track...

    • @skillz1855
      @skillz1855 6 років тому +1

      @Snippetmaster3000 I know that but these are worn

  • @BayAreaCyclist300
    @BayAreaCyclist300 5 років тому +2

    I'm 300lbs, guess that answers if I fit in one of these thanks dawg. hahahaha

  • @ChristianLopez-lm9zn
    @ChristianLopez-lm9zn 6 років тому

    “If you are in the right gear” the diving factor.

  • @hbhamilton3410
    @hbhamilton3410 6 років тому +21

    The Mustang is a better value, but the M4 is a better built car.

    • @chrism.728
      @chrism.728 6 років тому +3

      True. Mustangs that are in the same price bracket would completely embarrass the M4 around a track (ie Shelby GT350R).

    • @KB-bh9hp
      @KB-bh9hp 6 років тому +5

      HB Hamilton Define better built, because with cars, you can define how well something is built based on quality, or reliability. The bmw has nicer materials and better build quality, but significantly worse reliability.

    • @chrism.728
      @chrism.728 6 років тому +2

      @Latvietis96 I know two people who own a M3 and M4, and have had maintenance issues. BMW has their share of problems just like any other manufacturer. There just not as common as Mustangs in the States, so you don't hear about issues as often.

    • @jimbramble6511
      @jimbramble6511 5 років тому +3

      I can't believe this "better built" crap. After the warranties are gone, the over-computerized, difficult to repair and maintain (not to mention cost of same) BMWs( plus the company's history of not caring too much for what happens post-warranty to their cars) means : lease, don't buy(especially used).

    • @thegeneral8133
      @thegeneral8133 5 років тому

      NoPE!!!! Dont know where you got that from.. Better built based on what??? The Mustang is a manual vs an automatic. Keep the exact cars on the track and put the 10 speed auto against the m4 competition and it would thrash the m4, not even close.. That PP2 is better than the BM4, it sounds better, better tires,suspension, better priced, the suspension is a wash..

  • @Drako_1975
    @Drako_1975 6 років тому +94

    Mustang GT over a BMW M4 any day!

    • @AWmemeifornia
      @AWmemeifornia 6 років тому +7

      Stangology 5.0 what are you smoking

    • @luislanda2228
      @luislanda2228 6 років тому +16

      If anyone chooses the stang is probably becouse they cant afford the M4 plain and simple..

    • @KB-bh9hp
      @KB-bh9hp 6 років тому

      Luis Landa If I can afford a 50k toy, I can probably afford a 80k toy, or wait 5 secs for the bmw to depreciate 30k.

    • @luislanda2228
      @luislanda2228 6 років тому +1

      @@CoyoteFTW hahaha you make me laugh 😂 american muscle is garbage they loose control on a straight line specially the mustangs thats what they are known for. So acordint to you who build the fastes production cars now and who wins 24hs lemans all the time?

    • @luislanda2228
      @luislanda2228 6 років тому

      @@KB-bh9hp if you can find an M4 1 year old for 30k i will give you 40k how is that for you win win for you.

  • @cjennings4936
    @cjennings4936 5 років тому

    Why not have tested the mustang GT 10speed and stay auto to auto?

  • @LS-vc9uq
    @LS-vc9uq 5 років тому +7

    Mustangs got no class Compared to M4

    • @juanmartintorrebiartealvar7205
      @juanmartintorrebiartealvar7205 5 років тому

      M4 is way more expensive and has just a little more performance. But still you will say the mustang is bad just because its a ford.

  • @strykerman7888
    @strykerman7888 6 років тому +12

    The M4 starting at around $70,000 is completely unjustifiable.

    • @sergsrt8
      @sergsrt8 5 років тому

      Just get one pre owned for 48k lol

    • @rwac07
      @rwac07 2 роки тому

      Why? you're getting a much better overall car with much better build quality

  • @ryanvermillion7278
    @ryanvermillion7278 2 роки тому

    How does someone prefer the sound of a v6 over a v8?

  • @jollyrogers5261
    @jollyrogers5261 5 років тому +3

    Mustang definitely. It’s about the driving emotion. Pure, raw and more fun!
    Not about luxury bits, so what if the BMW is more refined....etc.
    I prefer something that is real!

  • @optiononemarketing
    @optiononemarketing 6 років тому +18

    The host is totally trying to influence her decision after she's clearly stated that she prefers the m4 hands down. He badgers her on the price, sound and tires repeatedly - even the expert seems to be annoyed with his cross-examination...I know I was.

    • @paulomoniz7326
      @paulomoniz7326 6 років тому +1

      yeah, the guy was really annoying.

  • @hosseinz1168
    @hosseinz1168 5 років тому +1

    Thnx good review

  • @Jesse.Shanks
    @Jesse.Shanks 6 років тому

    Those Recaro seats were not designed with such a large frame in mind. How did they feel for you? Most of the larger gentlemen that get in my 2015 Performance Pack Mustang do not like them.

  • @daevster6663
    @daevster6663 5 років тому +9

    Mustang = slow heavy and loud, there's a reason why BMW's are the ultimate driving machine.

    • @Mangobrain82
      @Mangobrain82 5 років тому +1

      But it’s not slow. Every other car channel has better numbers for the BASE package GT. This driver is trash and obese. Lol.

    • @daevster6663
      @daevster6663 5 років тому

      @@Mangobrain82 like car like driver, Ford and their musty Stang are crap

    • @Mangobrain82
      @Mangobrain82 5 років тому +2

      Daevster 666 lol you sound sour. Mustang is one of the best selling cars EVER.

    • @daisbestDA9
      @daisbestDA9 5 років тому +2

      Heavy? It weighs the same as the BMW lmao

    • @daevster6663
      @daevster6663 5 років тому

      @@daisbestDA9 ya but bmw's center of gravity is much better, the weight is distributed better. it's like a guy that weighs 230 lbs but hes all muscle, and the mustang is like a guy that weighs 230 but hes all fat.

  • @wolflarson71
    @wolflarson71 6 років тому +9

    Terrible acceleration times for the Mustang.

    • @letsgopoop123
      @letsgopoop123 6 років тому

      wolflarson71 you’re gay

    • @wolflarson71
      @wolflarson71 6 років тому +2

      A lesbian trapped in a man's body to be more precise.

    • @JamesPhieffer
      @JamesPhieffer 6 років тому +4

      The automatic is a lot faster.

    • @mikealanzo
      @mikealanzo 6 років тому +1

      @Wolf: You can thank the manual shitbox for that! I mean, who the fuck drives stick these days!?!?!?!?! I know, only retards that likes to wank off the stick shift!

    • @voodoodiecast
      @voodoodiecast 6 років тому +4

      Right? 5.3 to 60mph and 13.3 at the 1320 feels like 2005 mustang.

  • @100aventador
    @100aventador 6 років тому

    Was the only one that clicked on this to see a drag race and got left very disappointed?

  • @SpeedyWinds
    @SpeedyWinds 5 років тому +2

    Mustang and I will spend the extra $40,000 on modification, to the Mustang, stripers, and beers! :)

  • @1arritechno
    @1arritechno 6 років тому +3

    She prefers the exhaust note of the BMW..?? No,, I've heard vacuum cleaners with a better note... Mustang wins on that.!

  • @swanblake
    @swanblake 6 років тому +4

    Any car with cup tires will have a huge advantage on the track vs high performance summer tires. Put cup tires on the Camaro or M4, ect. There is a reason why manufacturers normally don't put a cup tire on road cars. We need to be fair here

    • @boondockbwoy14
      @boondockbwoy14 6 років тому

      Facts ..This man was straight biased from the get go

    • @sweetcheels
      @sweetcheels 6 років тому +6

      But this car is specifically designed for the track so no sir you’re wrong. Manufacturers put specific tires on cars depending on its design. They don’t put cup tires on regular GTs.

    • @motonvipr
      @motonvipr 6 років тому +2

      Yes, they should have used a manual 6-speed bmw. Not one with a DCT.

    • @sweetcheels
      @sweetcheels 6 років тому

      svtsnake thinking the same. If we’re using that logic.

  • @mikesc8616
    @mikesc8616 3 роки тому

    The 10 speed auto would have been a different story, and also driver mod lol. Coyote can do 0-60 right about 4 secs if you can launch it right

  • @olliereed4206
    @olliereed4206 6 років тому +2

    The M4 sounds like a dead Dodge caravan

  • @ricardogomez6555
    @ricardogomez6555 6 років тому +69

    of course she's gonna say the bmw girl's car. .mustang is for real man sorry but thers nothing like a American muscle sound. .

    • @milleniallgt9715
      @milleniallgt9715 6 років тому +3

      Ricardo Gomez exactly lol mustangs sound unique and awesome!

    • @cwoolfork5974
      @cwoolfork5974 6 років тому

      LOL! Great question! And are there real women cars as well?....Interesting....

    • @Reecesavage-Alwayswin
      @Reecesavage-Alwayswin 6 років тому +2

      Chiang Rick When you boost a coyote and start gapping lambos at ease now thats a man car

    • @luislanda2228
      @luislanda2228 6 років тому +1

      @@Reecesavage-Alwayswin i bet you all cant even afford any of this cars so shut tho f... Up

    • @tiborhorvath1702
      @tiborhorvath1702 6 років тому

      @Chiang Rick not a BMW.. lmao

  • @Hacienda5190
    @Hacienda5190 6 років тому +5

    Stopped listening to him after 20 seconds as im pretty sure this m4 does not have the competition package. Terrible review

    • @rockefelleragent1357
      @rockefelleragent1357 6 років тому

      I believe the M4 in this video was just regular M4 and not a Competition Pkg cause if it had it it would say it on the back M4 emblem. So he was comparing against a 425hp version.

    • @Hacienda5190
      @Hacienda5190 6 років тому

      it doesnt say competition on the back of a M4 which has the comp pack FYI.

    • @Guimatics
      @Guimatics 6 років тому +1

      IneedMoney M4s with the competition pack have different wheels also

    • @kells18
      @kells18 6 років тому +3

      Lol. No you can get it with 2 types of rims in 2 different colors. And no it does not say competition on the back dealer said that’s an option. Looked at one 2 days ago. Can’t see spending that amount of money on that.

    • @kells18
      @kells18 6 років тому

      Oh yea 19hp won’t make a big difference maybe 1/2 sec.

  • @Dragunov302
    @Dragunov302 5 років тому +1

    Idk I like the sound of both. But for spirit alone I’ll take the mustang for driver feel

  • @galsteinberg8010
    @galsteinberg8010 6 років тому +4

    PP = Performance Pack

  • @xx_plutonium__xx6162
    @xx_plutonium__xx6162 5 років тому +3

    M4 is way better

  • @IDontKnow-bb6mt
    @IDontKnow-bb6mt 6 років тому +5

    Don't care how great that V8 sounds or how fast the Mustang is, it is still a cheap Ford.
    Ford interiors suck balz, tons of known transmission and engine issues with these 18 models as well.

    • @chrism.728
      @chrism.728 6 років тому +3

      At least it won't cost you an arm and leg to fix or upgrade like that BMW will.

    • @IDontKnow-bb6mt
      @IDontKnow-bb6mt 6 років тому

      Why don't you go ask all the folks posting their videos of brand new mustangs needing new motors, transmissions, and even getting lawyers involved about buybacks and lemon laws how they feel about their mustangs?
      If the BMW is under warranty it wont cost a dime to fix, and when warranty is out you can always purchase an extended one :)

    • @chrism.728
      @chrism.728 6 років тому

      @@IDontKnow-bb6mt Extended warranties also available on Mustangs, so what your point. Mustang also cost 1/2 of what this BMW cost and still beat it around the track.

    • @IDontKnow-bb6mt
      @IDontKnow-bb6mt 6 років тому

      The point is that it wont cost an arm and a leg to fix like you claimed.
      And like I pointed out in my first post it does not matter how fast the Ford is, the car is still cheap AF on the inside and has tons of mechanical issues.
      You're reading comprehension skills are poor.

    • @chrism.728
      @chrism.728 6 років тому +1

      @@IDontKnow-bb6mt Nothing wrong with reading skills. I used to own a BMW 3 series and that car gave me a lot of headache taking it back to dealer for maintenance. I've also owned two Mustangs with no issues. So every owners experience is going to be different due to many variables. Some people prefer the Mustang, because it's a better bang for buck for performance. They don't care about fancy interiors, just want to race. Mustang also has a huge aftermarket for performance if you decide to beef up performance and handling. Mustang also sounds meaner with deep rumble. The fact that the Mustang is even being compared to a M4 in performance is win for the Mustang. Considering the Mustang is half the price of M4.