AngryJoe Rages at Risen 3!
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- Опубліковано 18 лис 2024
- The Combat in Risen 3 Sucks.
Update I didnt use health packs. If I had used health packs the fights would play exactly the same but be longer and even more boring. That changes nothing. I dont enjoy the combat in Risen 2.5, i mean Risen 3. Update
Nothing has improved from Risen 2, in fact much of the assets and locations are reused. The difficulty comes from rigid and slow animations combined with simplistic random attacks and imbalanced enemies right from the beginning. Its not fun, here is me losing it on stream for your enjoyment. Please dont make me play 80 hours of this.
"Stop spinning around like a fucking ballerina and fucking attack him!"
😂
Funny
@@jaygooese4242 what a shame
@@erainmartinez8175 well that sucks
Like the villainess in Foodfight. 😃
veterans have Vietnam flashbacks,Joe has ride to hell flashbacks
*” Fly off to the right and explode!”*
You can't be serious 8:04
at least everyone can shit on Ride to Hell.
Unlike Risen series where there are tons of ppl who still defend it to this day.
*FLY ACROSS THE SCREEN AND SLAM INTO A WALL*
@@probium2832 where does Joe live?
How can you guys defend this combat system? There is a difference between requiring skill because a game is tough and requiring skill to make up for shitty design. This game is totally the latter. You can see that there is a VAST difference in enemy animation (bird things can leap at stupid ranges whereas the skeleton dudes didn't move that much), the player you play as only has one combo that takes forever to do (which is why you have to roll all the damn time), sometimes the blocking isn't working at all, the animations are simplistic and so repetitive in general, and it is clear that this is so substandard overall...
Not to mention gunshots are missing at point blank ranges for little reason.
If you played it you would understand how truly horrible Joe is at this game. Enemies telegraph their attacks which makes it simple to parry or roll away if you are paying attention, his combo is taking forever because he SPAMS the same key over and over instead of clicking once per swing, which increases the duration between animations. It isn't bad design, it's a bad player. Saying variety in enemies is bad design is completely laughable. For half this video he left his companion behind and took on some of the most difficult enemies in the game solo and complained about it because he wasn't ready.
It's poor design dude. I can tell the enemy is telegraphing attacks but it leaves a little window to dodge and there is no reason for your character to be so much slower compared to the enemy. I'm saying make the game easier. What I am saying is make things make sense. I don't see the point in a feature that slows your attack if you tap an attack button twice. That seems downright stupid and unnecessary especially when the tutorial is advising you to combo. You still also ignore the fact that the attack of the character and enemy is super repetitive. Variety of enemies is fine but there is a point where it doesn't make sense. The birds Joe was facing shouldn't be able to jump like 10 ft over to him while other enemies barely move. Your last point was Joe's mistake sure. Overall, it is quite clear the combat is vastly flawed just from looking at it.
LDub01031994 Gunshots miss at point blank range is because it's an RPG.
*****
Lol how much did the developers pay you to recite that bullshit?
People in the comments don't know the difference between challenging and ridiculously hard and broken
Itsjvgamepro | MCSG, UHC, SMP | Agreed; Risen 3 on Ultra difficulty is the definition of challenging. Although Risen 3 does get a bit too easy in the later stretches of the game.
Angry Joe is just incompetent
@@urbium this game is real life butt and so unresponsive, graphics and textures straight from the ps1 era
@@filozof90 no he's not, especially on strategy game. I laugh so much when the character do point blank shot and still missed... it's an RPG not tactics like XCOM!!!
@@08126407562 you need to learn how to shoot straight, that means there's chance of hit and miss, if you didn't aquire the ability to shoot better.
But, you don't have to buy knowledge of how to shoot better, as long as you have high level of cunning it will increase the chance better until you hit 100 and then you can increase to 5 with a potion and then you can increase your hit chance ratio by learning how to shoot better
I'm looking at review sites and I see this...
Gamespot gives it a 7, IGN gave it a 5.2
Angry Joe on the other hand... would give it a 2.
The sad thing is most uninformed "gamer" are gonna listen to those mainstream "journalists" wich are basically overpaid marketing-staff at this point for every publisher/developer who can pay em, its incredibly disgusting and sad for gaming in general.
Vincent Sauer It is. I want to hear it from someone who's honest, down to earth and actually knows the difference between a good game and a bad game like Angry Joe.
***** Honest Joe who lost his credibility at least since his 10/10 for Guild Wars 2 and since he streams.
ign 9.5 out of ten. Not bad
David Souleye Reviews are a matter of opinion. You don't have to agree on it.
I said this game sucked on my walkthrough and got SMACKED with hate, im glad im not the only one i thought the combat was a joke along with the voice acting and basically everything else in the game it looks like it was made in 2009.
It's not original voice acting. The original one is way better. And you might not believe me,but the combat system isn't that bad,it's just very fucking hard. And as well as i know,the game has good story. There is a lot of comments where people explaining why this game isn't junk. You can read it.
I didn't like this game,but i won't necessarily say it sucks.
what's funny is the first mass effect came out in 2007 and it has way better visuals and even though combat was not the best at times it was still far more entertaining than any risen game.
Freezing Blue no
I wouldn't even say 2009. Maybe it's better in person but this looks like a PS2 game.
Виктор Перфилов a combat system where there is one button for melee (with random and sometimes unnecessarily long animations) and one for shooting does not make combat just hard but poorly designed, it has combat similar to fable 2&3 but at least your character did not use unnecessary spinning and twirling for light attacks in fable. (god i never thought i'd be saying fable was better than another rpg)
And the original german acting was better? sure maybe but he speaks fucking english thus the reason joe is playing the english version and he will critique the quality of the version of the game that is released locally not the version that the original language came in.
overall risen 3 would be a 2/10 in my books.
the design is head-bangingly bad and joe is right they fucked up once again and did not learn any lessons from 1&2
I got this for free and I still want my money back.
EDIT: After 3 years I decided to give it another try. Started a new save, after 20-30 minutes of stiff, slow and broken combat, animations and voice acting that looks like it's from an early PS3 game, I glitched through a tree and couldn't get out. Still as awful as I remember it.
but we can diminish the effects of it.
I haven't even played the game and I want my money back
I havent even seen that much of the game and I want my money back.
I haven't seen the game at all, and I want my money back
I am watching this game, i want my wasted mobile data money back.
6:35 The way Joe is so frustrated that he couldn't clearly state how the birds were pecking him so he utilizes his hand as a visual aid and calls it "nipping" at him is fucking hilarious.
That giant bird owning joe: Priceless!
I think we can all agree you can have a game as hard as you want if your combat is responsive and the animations are fluid
Absolutely
Joe - thanks for saving me a lot of cash over the years. Who else has saved money thanks to Joe? For the Angry Army!
dude... Risen series is good...
I was sooo tempted to buy Risen 1 and 2 on 360 the other day. Joe saved my life. Otherwise,I would've have,gone insane and killed myself
Yarpen C Hechoow. Sorry I'm alergic to bullshit.
Me.
TheWitheringAfro there both 5 b s on sale on xbox live , i bought them 10 bucks , if i don't like them o well , cause used at retail all together probably like 30 bucks maybe more ...
This seriously looks like an alpha of a game. What the living shit.
Why is he silent as re us and rolls on train that would make noise (like a ship?)?
this is suppose to be a classic rpg where combat depends on lots of moving and dodging. just cause you suck at it doesnt mean its bad.
precisely, I am playing morrowind up to skyrim, and I find morrowind much better than the "successors" because it's closer to true rpg mechanics and not this watered or "dumbed down" simplistic "chase the shiny arrow marker" bullshit, I like using my head meat to complete quests! NOT CHASE A DAMN ARROW AROUND!
And just because you say it isn't bad doesn't mean that its good.
And yeah its supposed to be a classic rpg but it fails miserably.
It delivers it in spades. This game is great. I'm having a blast and hated risen 2. Took a dodgy chance on this one and i'm glad I did, man is this game fucking hard, but man is it fucking good.
He's attacking a leviathan in rookie gear and getting his asshole thrown at his face. Loving the rage but really Joe? It's the games fault? You can turn into a parrot and fly all over the island without one enemey attacking you.
Jezus's fucking ballsack, I love you, but you're dropping the ball on this one Joe. This is a great gaming experience. He's forcing himself into a linear experience and treats enemy's like generic action rpg enemy's. They aren't.
They act as they look. Look fast? They are fast. Dodge a lot. Look big and heavy? They are slow and armored. Get behind them. They got 4 legs? They will probably jump on you, distance yourself. Looks like they can eat your face off? Turn around and come back in 20 hours.
Fucking rookie.
For combat like you describe, you need responsive controls. See Dark Souls.
Angry Joe is back in full force! Two rant videos in a row, yipee (but seriously, next review?)
Just wait dude it will come :D and as always it's gunna be good.
Gummy Sirharington I'm guessing Joe will need to dive into this game, so it's probably not far off
It's been 8 years, has Joe figured out how to dodge roll yet?
I don't think so.
8 years later, this game still fucking sucks.
@@DoomDeer average doom player
@@kirilhristovski2601 wassup Kiril the Average asset flip shovelware game player.
@@DoomDeer listen i like risen 3, its not my fav game, not by a long shot but still i beat it multipe times and it was great. (this is just my opinion pls dont attack me)
Guys, there is a difference between challenging combat and poorly-designed combat. Games like dark souls have very challenging combat, but it's well designed, it takes more skill and strategy and is much more rewarding. Risen 3's combat may not be the toughest for some people, but you can't deny it is terribly designed. Repetitive, unrewarding, clunky, and unfair. None of that can be said for dark souls, and that's why Dark Souls has better combat.
Dark Souls has a "fair" combat...Are you crazy?
Tylaris ' Difficult is not the same as unfair
Fair is when the same rules apply to both sides.
In DS:
- Enemy track player with their attacks, sometimes even while mid air or when their feet are not even moving
- Enemies are immune to plenty of AoE attacks from their "allies"
- Their attacks phase through objects and walls, while player is briefly stunlocked at the same
- Have sometimes absurd amount of stamina to relentlessly attack
- Are placed in illogical locations, like they knew of player's coming in advance
Cause DS is meant to be difficult this game is just shit.
+Tylaris ' if u are the cod Player who rushes through everything u will get rekt. u need to take your time,study the enemys and envoirement to suceed.
"Do more reviews or I'm unsubing!" *Joe does reviews* "OMG your reviews suck!"
People, you've got to be kidding me.
"Stop swirling around like a fucking ballerina!" Beat you to it, Joe. I was saying that a minute before you, haha. :P This game looks so silly, the mechanics seem rather fucked.
Artificial difficulty < actual difficulty.
GrayTimber I think possibly the worst part about the game is that when the enemy should be open is when they jump back during your attack and do a lunge attack before your animation is over. It also doesn't seem like you can cancel your atk animation with a dodge.
Yeah I agree XD I do love getting the reviews, but dang the comments are freaking out on this video XD
This isn't a review, its a let's play from one of his steams.
So u think angry joe's viewer total like 10 ppl? M
It's a shame that the developers of Gothic and Gothic 2 have come to this. I did a face palm when I heard Risen 3 was coming out, but I think Joe nailed it at the very end. Massive asset reuse. This was a quicky game to make more money off of what they had already. Will they use the money to make a new Original IP? No Idea, but day one DLC Is just tacky.
agreed. but the combat System of g1+g2 would totally wreck 90% of alive Gamers today. fuck dark souls! try gothic!
Heh, the first time you fight an orc, it one shots you.
timber wolve
gothics combat systems were awesome.
KingProne
There is no reason to play the whole Risen series when its a shitty copy and paste from the the Gothic series
At least Risen 1 still had shadows of Gothic, with class paths (tank, merc, mage) but Risen 2 was just too terrible to bare (And I finished it).
I think this game wants to be dark souls, but is missing the core concept of why people enjoy its difficulty. DS has strong enemies. That's where the difficulty comes from. Not bad mechanics.
Exactly!
Erm no, the Risen games are spiritual successors of the Gothic series, abeit Risen 2 and 3 not as good as Gothic 1 & 2. You don't compare them to games like DS, the closest comparison you're gonna get is The Witcher.
psbox362 You don't say ? Except that *Witcher developers name Piranha Bytes games as their inspiration* - www.worldofrisen.de/?section=newsdetail&id=1867
In the interview devs say that they specifically used and perfected those mechanics for Witcher 3.
If The Witcher 3 successfully takes PH games like Gothic 2 as an inspiration, it's gonna be phenomenal.
Oh hell yea! Witcher 3 will be an amazing game regardless of that though... I mean, it's Witcher
This game looks really fucking bad, what are you guys talking about?
Well, either of the 2 sides
1: "YOUR JUST SUCKS CUZ GOT NO SKILLZ!!1! IMMA INDUTRINATE YOU!!!111"
2: "This game looks broken as shit"
And i'm on side 2
Kuno Sandgreen
It's not "broken" at all, it's just that there's no level scaling in opponents. And that's a good thing.
urbium
Yup, ballerina swings that takes almost 2 seconds to strike and enemies attacks 3 times faster is not broken, the glitches are not broken, embarrasing voice acting and so much more is not broken
Kuno Sandgreen They've removed all invincibility frames.
urbium
Still the ballerina swing, glitches, laughable voice acting, terrible cutscenes that can be ok for a 2003 game, no new island and so much more to say, is not even worth to try it on Steam's Free Weekend
So many comments saying THIS REVIEW SUCKS. Well tell me this, where in the world does it say this video is a review?! Do you see the usual format of his reviews where he states both the positive and the negative aspects of a game, do some skits, and then states the score? This is a rant video where we get to see ANGRY Joe being (gasp) ANGRY. The description even says " Its not fun, here is me losing it on stream for your enjoyment." Now, if you think Risen 3 is not what Joe makes it out to be in this video and you are having fun on the game, then that's totally fine. Joe's views cannot possibly match up with every single gamer on the planet.
Everyone like this comment
Only 26, 80% of the comments above are pure missinformed garbage and this one actually making sense has only 26, i swear you fanboys make me so friggin sick.
Except for the fact his previous reviews of the game aren't fair at all. :)
Angry Joe has no idea how to do a review. He's either an asslicker or an asskicker. Neither of which is an attitude REQUIRED for making a proper review. A rager generally can't make a proper review.
That is why one generally can't rely on reviews... because well, people fail at being neutral.
I pirate my games. (I know, I know. Please don't shoot!) If I like them. I buy them. This is why. I don't have money to waste.
...I'm always baffled by this excuse. I pirate movies, because I don't want to pay to watch them. I don't pretend like I have a right to get free entertainment to see if it's deserving of my money. Your argument is the equivalent of walking into a steakhouse, and getting a steak for free before buying it because you "liked" it, so that therefore it is deserving of your money. Sorry buddy, you're not above the law. You have to pay, just like the rest of us. Video games aren't needs, and if you don't have money, then don't buy the game. :)
And certainly don't come up with some bullshit excuse that is easily deflated to attempt to justify your piracy. And again, I pirate, but at least I know what I'm doing is wrong, so I don't make excuses.
hardcorefakes12 You're example is inaccurate. A digital game is not consumable nor is it in a limited quantity. Nothing is lost.
well said sir!
Smitty Werben Jagger Man Jensen I don't care if the money I would have given the developers was lost because if I didn't buy the game, I don't want to support them.
Voxel8or exactly. Why waste money on a shit game and expect to get a full refund of it. I dont know why people complain when you say i pirate my games. So what. How the fuck is it hurting you? The game will make money anyway so why does my pirated version hurt them. Its like a test. You like it you buy it. End of story. You dont like it you dont waste the money on it. Either go and get a modded console and pirate your games instead of complaining about others doing it or just download the demo and check it out. Seriously need more demos to play.
really this time joe dont know what he is talking about
the real thing need better grafic and better esasyer map system thats all nothing is wrong other wise
Tobias Christoffersson this game is better than assasin creed 4 and i have playd all 4 off them
Tobias Christoffersson the game get easyer when u get pistol or musket even shotgun and u can lean magic bit later and u can learn 3 diffrent magic class types crystal vodoo and rune magic and ammo cost less in this game
Tobias Christoffersson all i see in this review is no tactic and no skills
Tobias Christoffersson a tip to new players before doing ur first game when u got steel beard weapons and and the armor dont go do the main quest go to other sides and u can finde legendary items and u can have them even after u done wait main quest ar first area u can swim over to island to left off the boat get a legendary item
The animations, its like game from 2005
The engine is from 2006, aged alot
+Kudo „The Doomer“ Redfox They shouldn't even be using such an old ass engine in the first place
framerate was dipping too. lol that game was trash
+Dank Sloth Bethesda used a very old engine for Fallout 4. It was still a very good game, but the old engine made the game a lot less good than it could have been. An old engine isn't really an excuse for this.
+BearHoldingShark True, but the difference between Bethesda and this developer, is that Bethesda knows how to make the old engines work to their advantage and know the engine like the back of their godly hand, unlike this developer, who clearly should have used a newer engine, or at least use the old engine more effectively.
Joe, dodge monster attacks, block human creatures attacks, wait for time to attack. Fight abilities strong depend on talents, which you must learn. When you know one of them, your attaks will be faster and all fight will be very easy.
Compare this to the starting sequence of Assassin's Creed 4
Lol, can HARDLY tell the difference.
Jaden Swift I thought he was playing Assassin's Creed 4.
For gods sake, this game is NOTHING like Dark Souls.
Dark Souls required you to think. It was basically "puzzle combat", you had to find a way to kill monsters more efficiently. You couldn't just mash buttons against them.
The combat mechanics of this game is trying to (and failed to) emulate Assassins Creed and Prince of Persia.
No, it's trying to be like Gothic, wich is older than Assassins Creed and Prince of Persia...
slingshotmcoy Prince of Persia older than Gothic, if your going to correct someone at least be right.
How the fuck can you compare this to dark souls? Games are nothing alike
BSdetector It's safe to say he didn't mean the original trilogy, which was completely different. So no, that style of combat is newer than Gothic.
BSdetector No... No it's not. Sands of Time came out in 2003. Gothic is 2001. The older PoP has no resemblance to Gothic.
Bro its amazing you went through such a long journey in this game. I literally deleted it after 20 mins of trying.
How are people defending this game? Point blank shots MISSING? This is shit you expect from runescape. Okay, so there are moves to learn and skills to master, but there's a difference between bad development and games that require skill. This game is obviously not the latter.
Not to mention this is 2014 goddamn it. This looks like a free to play rpg hailing from the early 2000s.
Its combat is shit, the graphics suck, and it's full of bugs. But i still like it. After awhile of playing you get used to all this crap. The progression in the game is probably the best part.
But I loved runescape:(
It's called an rpg.
You have to get your character better at shooting.
Maybe stop using your pistol if you cant fucking shoot it, and start using it when you put points into it.
slingshotmcoy >Shoots guy in face
>Misses because stat is too low
>Can't grasp how that is fun at all
I know nothing about Risen, but if this is the third in a series, how bad were the previous two? Were they somehow even _shittier_?
Really? Swagbito? lol
Dylan L
I get that first reaction a lot, lol.
The reviews are in his channel if you are interested. The first one looks like bland generic fantasy RPG, with the second one being pirate themed, but with horrible combat and macguffin finding.
I really liked the first Risen, but the second one was indeed much shittier.
Do you have a life ? just wondering, not trying to insult you.
Risen fanboys all over the comments will try to convince you that Witcher 2 is "casual" compared to this game just to defend the terribly counter-intuitive and cryptic combat system, horrible animations and hit detection.
Bad combat mechanics does NOT = a good challenge.
I think the developers were trying to produce a "realistic" combat mechanic, but this is not the kind of game for such things. This is not meant to be a sparring game. They were way too ambitious.
And the price tag? Forget about it...
The game is not even challenging, Joe just sucks at games. Witcher 2 does have shit combat too.
The people who like Risen's combat mechanics are the same people that say M&B: Warband's has the best medieval combat mechanics on the market and that Chivalry: Medieval Warfare is shit. If someone deserves the "casual" title, is them.
But to be fair, Witcher 2's combat mechanics are completely casual. Basically, it's rolling simulator 2011 with Quen spamming and the occasional attack, usually left-spinning attack.
It was a bad example for you to defend.
Akriloth. A cool dragon from your childhood (maybe). Did you play it on hard, or dark mode? Trust me even spamming the roll button or spamming quen doesn't work. Since quen takes time to cast and enemies constantly attack you while you cast it, also unlike in dark souls, enemies can still hit you during roll animation. Witcher 2 combat was only casual on easy and normal difficulties.
I played through The Witcher 2 on Dark Mode to get the armors on my first run and export them to TW3. I never played the campaign again as to have a perfect, one-time save and not spoil me the other choice consequences. In other words, to feel the gravity of my choices.
I just quen-spammed/rolled my way to the end, even though I messed up with the character attributes (it was my first playthrough). Excepting Quen, I found out magic is entirely useless when you can just roll and attack them on the back, stunning them and killing them almost immediately.
I thought it wasn't that simple, so I just kept playing the arena mini-game on dark difficulty for a challenge. Same crap. Cast Quen, roll until one opponent is alone and vulnerable, attack him/it to force him/it to do the immobile defense position, roll to his back, deal damage. If he/it riposte your initial attack, Quen protects you, you roll your way to safety, let your stamina recharge and repeat. You basically keep making circles on the battlefield until you find a weakness. It's boring and pretty casual.
Sorry for the long reply. I wanted to explain it well without skipping so much stuff.
The Risen Fanboys in the comments section will defend this game for no reason. It has extremely poor production qualities.
+KotorFan3231
I will never get these people, Gothic allready sucked, 2 sucked, 3 and "4" sucked, all the risen games suck, its the same boring and useless combat system that is just not fun and thoise dumbasses will still defend the crap out of it, its like they never played a good game in their live.
exactly
+Nikagor
gothic 1, 2 and risen 1 were great for their time.. the gameplay is a little outdated by todays standards but back when they were released they were effin' brilliant.. risen 2 + 3 sucked, though.. just like the rest of the gothic series..
Risen 1 should be in there
+Nikagor People like different things. Most confusion in life is really that simple.
Combat is based upon button timing, he is just spamming attack (you can tell by the speed and non-fluidity of his 'combos') and then moaning about the combat system! If used correctly it's actually very enjoyable. I've said it once and I'll say it again, if a game does not hold Joe's hand, he will not like it! He's as bad as IGN sometimes, I swear....
Nathan Rowe I'm not a PC gamer and i have never played a Risen game before, but i can definitely relate because i heard the exact same moronic complains about Odin Sphere where some idiots hated on the game when they couldn't do well in it 'cause they thought it was a hack 'n' slash where you can just spam combos..
Nathan Rowe
This is what I noticed with most reviews too, people who didn't bothered to learn and expected it to be easy from the get go, got their shit handed to and rated the game very low, blaming the combat for it.
In Piranha Bytesgame, you always start weak as shit and towards the middle to end you get a huge hard on when you simply melt shit left and right.
Nathan Rowe Combat is tactical and requires good timing. Agreed. Joe thinks that you can only attack here. Not to mention future combos and abilities, that's why he will give Risen 3 shitty score. Even though Risen 3 is like 8 times better than Risen 2. I'm really enjoying it even on hard.
It still looks horrible...
You're both so right! Finally some people with sense haha. I'm not too far into it myself yet but I am loving every second of it. The exploration, the combat and even the story (which is only sub-par but still...) Going melee on my first playthru on medium. Then I'll probably try a wizard/ranger on hard mode
I don't know what the fuss is about. I played the game for the last days and never had a problem learning the routine an enemy uses. Doge, attack, parry. And once I got 'Riposte' it got even better. Then I got 'Blade Dancer' and everything got easy.
Yes, had the same experience.
Also, the graphics on PC are way better than on console.
CodyProxyify I have no idea how it looks on consoles. On my computer the graphics are nice. I wasn't expecting anything like Crysis but was impressed looking at stones under running water. Also the blue sea and sky vistas are really great.
Also I haven't experienced any bug. Only that companions sometimes are missing, but teleporting or return to the ship helps.
I also noted that AngryJoe said you can't return to Crab Island after the first part of the game, but yes, yes you can and have to.
This is why i love Angry Joe Show, i get to see how bad a game is through Joes eyes and keeps me from buying shitty games. Thank you Joe.
Same here couldnt thank him enough
Actually joe was playing this game terrible he had no skill when playing
***** yea also i think Joe got angry on purpose, like he already planned to hate the game
If thats your criteria to buy a game or not then every ramdom nerd with charm will keep you from playing good games, just becouse they are bad at them.
Try to base your opinion on serious reviews, or sooner or latter you will say something stupid just becouse is what Ramdom_Funny_Guy said.
A Confused Shoe
He's already grumpy before the video starts. Let alone he still hasn't learned how to play. :)
I love the rage, especially with a video of Joe's character gelling mauled by two ostriches xD Great videos Joe
I will never, ever get tired of watching this video. I love when Joe is angry, but I feel so bad he had to play this.
I would love to see some behind-the-scenes action where Joe goes when he can't stand a game anymore. Does he do a Zen thing and calmly do yoga for 10 minutes, or does he have a screaming pillow he just bellows into? LOL
Same. It only got worst in years for gaming after gollum was released did angry joe got even more angry.
I don't see the arguments for the defense of this game. "You have to roll and learn the pattern of your enemies!"
Well, that's great. Sounds like Witcher 2. Oh wait, you still attack slower than the slowest enemy, and many enemies simply dodge you (as you can clearly see in this very video) so you have to rely on stuffing an enemy into a corner and smacking them until they die - rolling away just before they strike. Only it's not like you get multiple hits, you get one, and then you must roll away until they are FULLY FINISHED with their moves. ONLY THEN can you attack, and then you have to repeat the rolling. You know why this is bullshit? Because it takes three minutes to kill ONE ENEMY. It's excruciating boring and is not complex or hard or engaging. It's simply frustrating in its simplicity for all the wrong reasons.
But once again people will defend it like they defended Risen 1 and 2. And hey, I sorta like Risen 1. But Risen 2 and 3 are not quality games. Not after being compared to its peers. They simply have niche markets and unfortunately those niche players feel everyone else is wrong but them. They're the only ones that "get it." Well there's not much to get, it's just a boring game.
The graphics are dull and lifeless. The animations are beyond lifeless and never once resemble human movements (I think there was more fluidity in KotOR - 2008 is being generous), the combat is a tiresome attrition-based snore, the story is subpar, the voice acting is wooden, the quests are... there and that's about all I can really say about them. What's left to a game? Multiplayer? As far as I can tell it isn't there. UI? It's ok. Doesn't actively smack your hands off the keyboard/controller. I'm reaching at this point.
You like the game? Great. Glad you do. I enjoy that you are happy. Let us hate the game though.
I want Joe to make a full play through video series of him playing either Dark Souls 1 or 2. Id get pop corn and drink for it xD
He played bloodborne. Said it was a good game. Just not for him.
My god, this game was released in 2014??!!
It looks like a game from 2004, the graphics look ancient, and the animations look like the devs barely had a budget, wtf??!!
+Achillez It's a team of 25 people. The difference between them and any indie studio is that they showed their games at the biggest gaming conventions... where their games' problems always surface. Otherwise yeah, they are small and they don't have the budget to make an AAA game.
From 2004?! Really? Have you ever played a Game from 2004? I would say that Risen 3 looks better as a game from the year 2004.
+Lars Luewi
From judging this video It still seems to use the same engine as they used from Gothic 1 (2001) to Risen 2 (2012), they update their graphics with each release, but yes the skeleton remains the same since in fact earlier than 2004.
That being said back in 2001 that engine was fantastic, Gothic 1 and 2 were truly beautiful games.
Though truth to be told I could easily live with the leak of good graphics if at least the Risen story telling, characters, setting and game play was even nearly good as these of Gothic 1 and 2.
Kaefer1973 The original Risen was solid enough?
thegamer351 I'm not sure, I like the particular story telling style of the company, so I'm not very critical of them, but parts of Risen were rather reminiscent of Gothic 2, I certainly wouldn't give them a price for outstanding originality. Also in some cases the balancing of the games difficulty was a little off.
Anyway I did play through Risen 1 and didn't think I wasted my time afterwards. Which is more than I can say of Risen 2, which however might be connected to the fact that I never was a big fan of the pirates theme.
This does not look like a 2014 game i know graphics dont make a game but still this looks and plays like a game released before 2010.
No, it isn't just the graphics. It's how the game looks. The combat and animations are god awful, and just about everything in this game is so bad it makes Risen 2 look like a god-sent. AC4 stole this game's audience and good fucking riddance.
WarpGenesis Yeah the animations just looks weird and makes me not want to play it since it will make me hate combat.
More like 2007
There's a fucking difference between graphics and art style. It has beautiful graphics but an odd art style.
Janet Lee No the graphics are nice but they remind me of dragon age but with a mod. That could be me.
I love all the people in the comment section going "oh it's supposed to have shitty combat, so it's okay" lol.
Actually there is "coming back after farming" as all the islands are available after the tutorial (except the last one). You can go wherever you want. The enemy difficulty isn't separated by islands but how close they are to the beach. The beach has the weaklings and the wilderness near the skull cave has the strong ones.
I love how this game's fans talk about how hard this game is - ENFORCED difficulty through lack of content, balanced gameplay or even COMMON SENSE is NOT a good thing. If your e-peen gets MAJORLY stoked at the thought of dicking with a crappy interface, re-used assets and imbalanced JUNK than hey - good for you.
For the rest of us there's Black Flag.
Assassin's Creed? Seriously?
-crazy laughter and then serious face- yes
***** Remember folks, you heard it here last
vin 950 cause it's fun to play compared to this crap
Black Flag is the proof that Ubisoft doesn't have the balls to take chances. That game was their safe bet, keep it Assassins Creed so fanboys will buy it anyway, despite adding nothing to the game, in fact, it took away from it.
Can't wait to see what bullshit will they release, since they're saying they're planing a pirate game based on Black Flag.
Assassin's creed games are perfect for people like my dad, who don't have the ease that most of us have when controlling a game. It's really a hand helding game.
Joe i love your videos and i don't usually comment but i would like you to read this.
I'm playing the game right now and i've noticed you just haven't figured out how combat works. You can roll to avoid attacks, when you said it looks like ride to hell the game was actually showing you how to dodge. You also need to time your attacks if you just spam you will swing very slow. I suggest you think about removing this video, it's very unprofessional and you didn't manage to figure out anything about how the combat actually works. I am 10 hours in and i haven't died yet, the game is very enjoyable and while it has flaws, this video is just showing your incapability or your reluctance to learn how to play the game. I hope you realize i'm trying to criticize in a constructive way. Love your works just please consider removing the video
This isn't Dark Souls nor is it advertised as such. This game should not be trying to be hard. It definitely shouldn't be this frustrating at the very beginning. All criticism aside, this is a perfect video of the frustration of one gamer.
Oleg Syurko Are you implying that only Dark Souls is the only game series allowed to be difficult?
slingshotmcoy Dark Souls is 100% better than this game.Better in graphics,combat and story.Don't you fucking dare compare that legendary game to this piece of shit game.
Mylonix Shade *sigh* They are different games. Dark Souls has the best combat in an arpg, because all the game is is combat. This is a proper rpg with quests, npc's etc. I love dark souls but I enjoy this type of games more.
but he DID use dodge later
Why are people defending this crap? This game came out in 2014 but looks worse then games that came out in 2005. The combat looks like a tedious chore where you fight lazily built and unimaginative characters like giant birds. How much did the developers pay you guys to defend this? Or are you guys the developers.
Because it's a solid RPG?
Not from what I have seen. Looks like the bastard redheaded stepchild of Fable and Witcher 1.
PC Gamer US (83%)
-Combat quibbles and muddy graphics do little to spoil the fun of this enjoyable RPG.
Strategyinformer 8/10
-Despite still having a few issues Risen 3: Titan Lords is a vast improvement on Risen 2.
Cramgaming 8/10
-If you’re a fan of action role playing games, then there’s a lot to like about Risen 3 which offers some pleasant and open ended adventuring.
TPreview 7/10
-Overall Risen 3 is an entertaining RPG. It doesn’t innovate or set any new standards, but it is fun and much more challenging than the standard fare.
Gameinformer 7/10
-While Risen 3 doesn’t have great combat or an enthralling story, there’s a lot of content to delve into for those hungry for an open-world action/RPG, and that might be enough to entice fans to give it a try.
GameSpot 7/10
Multiplayer.it (80/100)
Everyeye.it (70/100)
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General Zod Becouse we love it. this simple this game still made for the Fans of Gothic whos expect somethin similar and want something similar. if the game has the afmosfer of the gothick game we forget everythin els I personali love the firs risen and hated the secound not becous of the combat but becous i didnt feel a play a gothic game sadli for joe and for you risen 3 has the fealing of a Gothick games so fans gona defend it.
***** You defend this game by listing a bunch of review sites nobody has ever heard of? Need to rethink your strategy.
To all those people saying "oh its made by a small team of course it wont be as good" Risk of Rain was made by 3 college students and its a top tier game
MrMrodzi Im not talking about graphics, Im talking about the gameplay. In a game like RoR it has amazing gameplay, but 2d graphics. It doesnt matter if you can or cannot make a 3d game, bad gameplay is bad. This is not an excuse.
***** Just give it up, your comparison is plain stupid. The game Banished was made by one guy. What now ?
David Souleye I don't even know what you're trying to say. The game, Banished was made by one guy? So what? How does this have anything to do with what im saying? I said having a small amount of people isn't quite a valid excuse
Somehow I never heard of that Risk of Rain...
***** Exactly how I feel reading this.
It actually does look very like Ride To Hell! D:
+Catty Mintgum I read your name as Catty Minigun. But envisioned a gatling gun. I'm bad at thinking.
+Darcnhife same
+Darcnhife same
Sci-Fi Savage
How can you make complaints about someone lacking a mind of their own, and then demand that they do things your way?
Shoot, I check out gameplay and watch reviews for the purpose of making an informed decision of whether or not it's a game I'd want to spend my money and personal time on. Not being a professional game reviewer, I don't buy games to judge them and inform other people. People often buy them for entertainment and to enjoy oneself. Not for your acceptance on a thought they expressed in a UA-cam comments sections for a video of the game.
Sci-Fi Savage
i think you should do an iq test, if above 120 post here again and show the results or shut the fuck up as you have no clue what you are talking about
it seems as if now, the comments on angry joe's videos are 90% complete criticism, and the other 10% are aruguments between fans and haters
You are correct good sir.
Damn straight brother.
80% criticism 10%arguments and 10%console war
Why am i watching an adult man play kids games while behaving like 'angry german kid' ? Oo
how is risen a kids game?
17 is still "kid" compared to Joes age. ;)
Quimper111 Vide games have a much broader spectrum than just "kids", they are a media made for multiple people of all ages to like. Just like movies.
Yes, i'm an old gamer myself. I think the point i was trying to make is that when you're at Joes age you should really have more serious business to be upset with. But then again, it's his "niche" commenting i suppose.
Quimper111 You must be new here. Its not just his "niche" its his job. It's right there in the title, 'ANGRY Joe Show. Your comment is like listening to Rush Limbaugh and asking why he is mad at liberals.
Joe, I gotta disagree with you on combat.
First of all, you can cancel your attack at any time to block.
Second of all, the attack animations your character does is dependent on how you move the stick before pressing it. Forward and backwards before attacking have different animations, and I think so does left and right. And you can chain any directions together.
Third, a lot of combat skills (parrying, extended combos, spells, and new dodgerolls) are learned through trainers later on in the game. Not too much later, mind you, only once you've find some combat-hardened NPCs and/or joined a Guild.
Honestly, I'm loving Risen 3. Sure, it's not groundbreaking, but a game doesn't need to cover new ground to be good, it just has to have a unique flavor to it and I think Risen 3 accomplished that. Mind you, I haven't played Risen 2, but just looking at the games side-by-side, it's not hard to tell that 3 actually DID improve on quite a few things. At least, that's how I see it.
Joe, understand that I have some of the highest levels of respect for you. You were always one of the few brutally honest reviewers. You are usually the deciding factor for me to buy a game, simply because your viewpoint is very akin to mine in a lot of aspects. That being said, based on more fairly recent reviews, I honestly kind of feel like you've lost yourself. You don't seem like the same Angry Joe. The way it seems to me, you almost seem like you've become spoiled. Either that, or you go into games with the wrong mindset. But, really, that's just what I see, and I'm getting off track.
Honestly, I think Risen 3 is a damn decent game, well worth the money if you're a fan of the types of games that handled that way. Gothic games, specifically. But what do I know? I'm just some guy who took the time to rant his opinions out in the UA-cam comments section. A rant that will likely be lost in the comment sea within a couple hours, no doubt.
hey i read you i feel you homie
Get Risen 2. It really isn't that expensive. I just loved watching angry joe's whole risen trilogy. Waiting for the review of this game.
dathip
I really don't have a reason to get Risen 2, though. Not a huge fan of the whole "pirate" thing. You may still be a pirate in Risen 3, sure, but as the story progresses it becomes less about that.
course you do kid. this game is beyond horrible. people can tell just by looking at it. like joe said this game is just as bad as ride to hell
Finally. I enjoyed the game as well. I know, the first intro island of this game is shitty as hell, fuzzy textures,bad voice acting, and so on. I was so mad that I almost deleted the game. and was considering a refund, which I have never succeeded. But, later on the game, the quest, the combat only gets better, so does the level design.
I am not saying that the combat system in this game is "good" in terms of responsiveness, animations, etc.. But, it is "good" in "bad" way (I don't know if that make sense). In the first few hours of the game, it's merely dodging and let your companions do the work. However, the attack sequence of every single enemies is different, you'd have to get to know how they attack before you can single handedly defeat them.
The story IS stupid; the graphic IS from the 2008 (textures, animations and expressions); the UI, art design and so on, is NOT the best we've seen lately. Personally, I am indeed pretty disappointed.
For people who are struggling if you should get this or not? Don't. Because this only goes one way or another.
1) You like it the first time you heard about it, and you know exactly what is expected in the series. You bought it, and you liked it.
2) You struggled for the two extreme sides of review on the internet, when you bought it, you probably won't like it. Or even hate the dev's guts.
Anyway, I sincerely hope that Joe can hang on just a minute, play some more. But, if that still does not satisfy you, then...I don't know. I'm gone now.
And why are people comparing this to Skyrim? Skyrim is a FPS medieval sword fighting/bow shooting game. Risen 2 and 3 are about pirates, with a third person view and play style. These games are more like Assassins creed if anything. (Though they pale in comparison to AC)
***** Are you telling me to Cringe? Or are you saying cringe?
+poiuytrewq11422 Lol assasins creed was a terrible game. Risen 3 Isnt the best game but it's ok. Which puts it an infinant number higher than ac on the bad game to good game scale.
Kyran Barber Wtf are you talking about? I never even heard of Risen until I watched this review, it's a shitty game, shitty graphics, shitty controls. AC actually makes their games functional at least. (I don't count Unity).
So you are saying you have never heard of risen and you are telling people its a crap game. And assasins creed is atleast functional. I dont understand what part of risen3 isnt functional. And everytime someone compares risen with ac all the things people are bitching about on risen are worse in ac. So it makes no sense to me. Lets actually analize this. 1.Risen has bad graphics. Wait have you actualy seen how crusty the graphics on ac are. Do they even use antialiasing? All i see is blurry as fuck textures and jagged edges where it should be smooth. 2. The story line is shit. At least in risen you get a story line. 3. The combat is to simple and boring. Ac Fucking Block Fucking Counter (enough said).
4. Enemies are not balanced. Actually yes they are. And dont tell me the combat is too simple and boring when you cant even work out how to defeat one of the easiest enemies in the game. That just makes you look like an idiot. Because if combat is so simple that it becomes boring then you should be able to beat the first enemy you encounter without trouble. You are so used to games where the developer holds your hand the whole way through the game with every enemy being defeatable strait up and with no real skill involved. Just like ac (Block Counter). This makes risen 3 have enemies more balanced than ac. 5. Buggy as fuck. I have not encountered a bug yet. Its probably more that you are not understanding how combat works and saying its bugging out because what you are trying to achieve is not possible against some enemies. Thats not a bug. Thats a thing us intelligent gamers call game mechanics. On the other hand i found a multitude of bugs on ac, from sound bugs to graphical bugs to plain just randomly teleporting. As well as event sequence bugs where one event should have triggered another event but just didnt. Which is a game breaking bug in many cases. so dont tell me how bad a game is bassed on false pretences and then try to tell me one of the shitest games to ever get popular is better when the specific elements you are complaining about were actually terrible in the game you are fapping over.
Kyran Barber I hadn't heard of Risen UNTIL this review, which was a while ago. All video games have bugs, that's not what i'm talking about. I'm talking about FUNCTIONAL controls, ones that actually make sense and work. For Risen, no, they don't work. Dark Souls is another game that outright rapes this one in comparison. I could go on to name hundreds of games better than this steaming pile of goat shit, I've got all day.
If there's a review coming up for this, I can't wait. I usually go watch Joe reviews even about games I'm not interested in just for the laughs, hehehehe...
I'm guessing it'll be as funny as Ride To Hell review~
I used to be your subscriber. You've made me laugh many times, and i totally agree with you that Risen 1 on Xbox was terrible (so as 2 and Titan Lords) But you created bad mark on Risen serial. Everyone is hating because of you bashed the every Risen, and 60% of them didn't even played it. And like sawmaniac said you just made this review to make fun of the game, and i knew that it's going to be like that as soon i heard Risen 3 is coming out.
I'm not a fanboy, Risen so as Gothic is not the game for everyone, it's totally different type of game than Skyrim but still everyone compare them !? Xbox and PS3 version of Titan Lords looks terrible, outdated textures and all that. But the game is fun and great (beginning is a bit weird but after a while it grows on you). So this video is kinda like Trolls Kingdom, everyone enjoying to talk crap about game which half of them didn't played longer than 1hour. Believe me i played every RPG and i'm playing Risen 3 for 10 hours now, and i'm enjoying. Great music, great story, nice graphics on PC.
Combat isn't great too i agree that it could be better, but combat is much easier and faster if you know how to play it, you just started the game, when your combat isn't leveled up at all (and RPGs are a lot about leveling up isn't it ?) and you started to fight strong enemies like leviathan, ofc you gonna die ! And you stand in the middle of fight with low health for 2 mins. without any freaking defense or even trying to heal yourself, and then freaked out when you got killed !?
Sorry but that's your problem, it was like you play RPG for the first time, what's with the new soft gamers ? It should be challenging and hard, but that what you did here wasn't fight, it was like kid playing game for the first time. I know it can be better like that when you stuck in animations, but other than that it's alright. So again, this isn't a review this is bashing the game so everyone can say "it's crap" but it's actually Fun, exploring and beautiful RPG, but each to his own yeah ?
So this just isn't fair, this is not review this is "hey look how much i hate this game"
I know my English sucks, so sorry about it
Sony God
Intelligent comment what can i say ?... and no i'm not black
just a pity that a lot of People will never get into the Franchise because of the bashing. agree delboy
I totally aggree. I play this game for about 15 h now and it's fun.
Totally agree with you.
It's sad cause there's no new RPGs except Witcher 3. Specially with theme like Risen/Gothic is, and Piranha Bytes are MUCH smaller game team than others. And they done it good, Risen 2 is alright but it could be better, Risen 3 is really good specially later when you go to Caldera and Taranis, such a beautiful atmosphere. And Joe they didn't "remade a locations from Risen 2 because they don't give a damn" it's called connecting two different story lines together.
I'm really sad because all hate, because Piranha Bytes games were always special to me, since Gothic 1 and they don't deserve all the rant. But still no one is complaining about 99% of new games which are basically in alpha. But if you glitch through the rock in Risen "It's a fucking catastrophe !" -,-'
Risen 1 and 3 are great games, and if you are open minded about games and don't judge everything by Skyrim - you'll gonna enjoy it, wait for steam sale and buy it.
3:26 Angry Joe getting his ass kicked by some of the weakest, easiest to beat enemies in the game, failing to time attacks or use dodge properly, and raging.
/Entire Video
*This happened in Risen 2*
Joe Rages
Hey anyone remember all the times we died at the early enemies in Dark Souls 2?
*****
The fighting system in Risen is Old School, it's punishing skill based combat that harkens back to games like Gothic. Risen has heavy attacks Joe just sucks at the game and doesn't know how to use them, and surviving in Risen is all about studying the attack pattern of enemies and timing your attacks, otherwise you're going to have a bad time like Joe did.
*****
Risen 3 was a niche game for a niche audience that very much wanted this sort of game, that's why user reviews are mostly positive, the game reached it's target audience to much fanfare from the actual fans of these old school European styled skill based adventure games.
It's not broken, Angry Joe is just bad at it, and a some hardcore fans of the genre complained that it wasn't difficult enough because apparently monsters don't have enough attack damage to make combat feel truly threatening.
But in Risen it's all about getting in the theme of the combat, if you just mash the attack button over and over you're going to have a bad time, you have to flow with the enemy, it's like a dance.
And then I fired, I missed. I fired again and I missed. I ran out of bullets. I sat down and cried. I passed out. I had a Popsicle. I reloaded and I fired, I missed.
I know this comment is 4 years old but know that you made my day XD
lol someone said this has skill based combat, hahaha
I think it does have skill based combat for timing your attacks and dodges compared to enemy attacks but the "miss" system is based on luck.
The fight system can be pretty enjoyable but needs some practice, the story in the other hand is quite lame and stupid just like the main character, the game is 5/10.
Pretty bad when Joe compares this game to Ride to Hell...
@@blackout2196 Its not skill based, PB makes good rpg's but they have the worst combat in the industry. They do not understand how combat works. My proof is the fact that from gothic 1 all the way to elex they did not improve, at all
@@jonathansoko1085 Still better than quite a few out there
@@jonathansoko1085 I didnt mind elex combat, so will I like the risen games?
the combat sucks, it's way too repetitive
but seeing you rage is funny as hell xD
ehm... does Dark Souls ring any bells?
+Pada LAN hahaha we found a risen defender.
If you are comparing the Swordplay in Dark Souls to risen.
You must really be Blind.
yes, like nobody ever beat the whole dark souls by dodge, attack, dodge, attack tactic.
hell, it even has a name in dark souls community.
if you try to do this in risen, it will work on some opponents, who are supposed to be easy. harder opponets will quickly break your combo and beat the soul out of you for trying to do this. and if you have several opponents this tactic also won't work.
risen is one of very few rpgs, that has a combat system that requires you to use both ranged and melee attacks.
one of very few rpgs where healing items are actually usefull.(dark souls obviously too)
one of very few rpgs where torches are usefull.
yet I have never seen angry joe say any of these things. he is pissed of by this combat system, because it does not follow strict lines and is much more random than he is used to.
and because he doesn't care about the storyline, the alchemy, the crafting- fighting is obviously the only thing he does. so he doesn't like the whole game, because he doesn't play the whole game.
Pada LAN the combat in this game sucks, period. there is no skill involved, you literally attack, jump away and repeat that cicle. and don't try to tell me that there are enemies with good AI where you need to use tactics. you use ONE tactic (the one I just described) against EVERY enemy. and fighting is what you do for the most part of the game.
You guys know why people are defending this game right? Because the experience of playing it was SO torturous, that it brainwashed them into liking the game. This game TORTURED PEOPLE into liking it.
So there IS a cult of shitty game lovers!
(Puts on a tinfoil hat) I'll not fall down to their trap!
Kudo Redfox Just don't play the game, that's their way of converting you.
GameGenes Exactly!
+poiuytrewq11422 naa, you need intelligence, logical thinking and an attention span longer than 5min
so an iq over 100 to play this
+poiuytrewq11422 angry joe is a filthy casual and bad at video games
Still waiting for the review, though.
@ROG Dude's loss for not reviewing these games.
The player fights like a dime-a-dozen mook npc in this game...
I actually enjoyed the game so much that I finished it in 3 days(about 35 hours :D)
And I finished it on high difficulty level and I didn't cry like you ;)
O_o I just reached chapter 2 and that by chance xD
Well, I take back my last comment. This combat is actually very good.
It's not meant to be a button masher.
It's TIMED combat. You have to time your attacks and you have to dodge defence breaking attacks.
This is actually very well made.
6:04 made me cry i was laughing so hard
You hated Risen, you hated Risen 2, so why do you play Risen 3. At the beginning of your video you already look pissed of and then you play the INTRO. This is not a fair review, this is trolling.
I had fun playing the Risen games, they are not at all perfect, they are not Skyrim, but I liked them. Seeing you reviewing it feelt like somebody taking the box of a game you like and peeing all over it. This reminds you of "Ride to hell"? Seriously?
Imo a reviewer has to be fair and impartial, you are neither. Do me a favor, keep your hands off the Risen-Games.
The reason he looked so pissed at the beginning was because he had already played the game for 3 hours and seen how shitty it was dude I've played this game it's dogshit
Brooks Alexander I've played this game too and I know it's not perfect, but I like it. The only reason Angry Joe does this review is because a bad review gets more views than a good one. So troll on,^^
THIS IS NOT A REVIEW YOU IDIOT!
Brooks Alexander Its better than Skyrim amigo. Angry Joe is, what comes out if you mix a piece of shit and a microphone.
It is better than Skyrim.
To all the people who rant about this game for stupit reasons like graphics: Piranha Bytes is made of only about 20 people, they do as best they can but their funds have limits. I would say that the game looks good for all the Gothic fans, and that is exactly what PB wants to accomplish.
***** Really? 20 people? Damn.
***** And Grinding Gear Games had 3 people.
***** THREE PEOPLE!? You serious!? Wow... I... I don't know what to say.
No matter what game PB develops now, it still will never be anywhere close to Gothic 2. That's the bottom line from my perspective.
***** They do have more people now, but for most of development it was just 3 or less people.
6:09 Joe simulates what this game did to his soul.
If he knows how to play, it was enjoying to him...
@@razvanepcs Doubtful. Considering he didn't enjoy it.
Also, this comment is nearly 5 years old.
Risen 2 was fucking horrible how does it have a sequel?
Because it has a retarded fanbase, they put no effort and just copy the same game and the fanboys continue to buy and play it thinking it's good.
+The300Player Risen 2 was fucking godlike, thats why.
MsAboAbosauce So I have to play one of that developers games to give an opinion on one of their games? You're an idiot...
Cuz fuk u gimme monee, said Developers.
+Kitty Kat the same as CoD fanboys :D
I don't understand what the main appeal of this game is and why it's $50 instead of $25.
wut?
And when that day comes it will have "risen" lol
The price of bad games has risen.
the real question is why should it be $25 instead of $5
Basically, it has a lot of fanboys that can't admit they made a bad purchase and are hellbent on pretending this game has a good combat system. So instead of just admitting it, they suck off the devs until we see the ilk of Risen 3 and its unwarranted $50 dollar price tag.
How in the name of god did they get the budget for another one!?
10/10 IGN
Nope. 11/10
***** 10/10 would get payed to say 10/10 again.
"Truly groundbreaking."
"1/10" - IGN
darkop3191 you don't get it :(
Albosaur123 :(
Joe. I Just wanted to say thank you. I appreciate that you forced yourself through this game so that I didn't accidentally buy a game like this. I feel your pain bro.
went over to steam... *sigh* risen 3 is a top seller with tons of positive "reviews" on its store page
Oh, no these people didn't wait for a clueless guy to tell them the game is bad without them playing it, and decided that they liked what they are playing! How can that be?
Yeah, you have to buy a game on STEAM to review it, and by now most people know whether they like Risen or not.
Ok guys, Joe doesn't like it! That means NOBODY ELSE IS ALLOWED TO LIKE IT EITHER
+baxopoka98
no one said you couldn't enjoy your shitty games, we'll all point & laugh at you, but you can still enjoy it
ColeVecsion Nice bandwagon you're riding there.
How are games that are this bad even released?
It's not even that the combat is simple, it's unfair. Your character has a pre-attack animation but heaps of the enemies don't. You're supposed to be able to dodge enemies in a game. If an enemy is about to punch you in a game, they need to pull their fist back first; this gives a small window for the player to dodge or get out of the way. In this game, enemies straight up ram you; with no time given for players to dodge. And pre-attack animations aren't something that makes a game easier, look at Dark Souls; one of the toughest games out there. Every single enemy in that game has a pre-attack animation. Because if you don't dodge in time you get hit very hard in that game, it's always your fault when you get hit. But this game just has enemies that can hit you in a split millisecond. Horrrible game.
***** shoot them, or trow a dagger in their face or use a musket and later you will have powerful spells and you can use only that and no more problem with swordfighting. Also you can get a counterattack.
***** Dude, why are you advocating for this? There are so many games like this that do it so much better. I over exaggerated a bit when I said the game was horrible. It's not extremely bad; it's just very below average. If you want a third person action adventure game; play Dark Souls, Assassins Creed, Ratchet and Clank etc. There are so many better games out there with tones more shit to do, more weapons to use and more places to explore.
***** there is so much playing the games you mentioned you can do I need something else.
***** Risen 3 has fantastic combat! It's true it came up a bit short in the plot/dialog/voice acting department but hey, at least it's still better than Skyrim on that front.
I think Joe would have a better time of combat if he'd actually roll to dodge and not just button mash hoping to somehow get the better of the enemy. The combat system isn't designed so every player can just dominate every enemy. You have to learn behavior, time your attacks and dodges, and actually HEAL if you get in trouble. (At 6:06 he has 10 provisions and 3 rum-which would pretty much heal him to full-and he uses neither of them and then gets all mad that he dies. [rolls eyes])
Finally someone who understands that combat in a game must be a challenge - not a mouse clickfest.
***** I just hope that you will not get so much hate on your comment just like I get on mine lol.
CodyProxyify Honestly, Joe (and everyone else here) is entitled to their opinions, but there's so little skill involved in click-click-click.
Also, Piranha Bytes is a tiny indie developer, so he shouldn't be thinking it will have mocap and crap like a AAA title. And even with that said, they *still* do a far superior job to a lot of big titles . . . or do we just not even speak of fiascos like Watchdogs anymore?
Ivan Dado Meh, everyone can express themselves, but I really don't care. To me, the fact that someone has healing *in the quickslot wheel* on the right and doesn't even use it when they're almost dead *deserves* to die. That's sort of how games work: if you don't ever heal you will probably eventually die.
***** haha true
You know...I died of broken bones and ribs from all that dodging.
I liked Risen, but never bought Risen 2 or 3. Thanks Joe for honest reviews!
You liked Risen yet, you wont give 3 a shot because of Joes rage induced review because he sucks at the combat?
Or because the risen games suck ass in general
Abloec
fanboy, Joe has the best reviews on youtube.
Abloec Joe is a professional reviewer, i trust him to say if a game is fun or not.
I am not dissin on Joe, I enjoy his reviews because they are funny. I just don't understand why a person is dismissing Risen 3 just because Joe doesn't know how to deal with the combat. There's plenty of people who consider the game to easy for crying out loud.
Also I am not a fanboy, I utterly hated Risen 2. Risen 3 is better in all aspects, the combat gets more engaging once you get into a faction, dodging allows a different pace in combat. Realistically this wasn't even a review it was just Joe bitching about the game because he hates the combat and can't figure it out.
if you didn't like Risen 1 or 2 why even play part 3. I would never force myself to play shitty games
He's a reviewer! Watching AJ play bad games is funny as! He gets plenty of views and anyway you never know if they will turn out a good sequel.
I know he is a reviewer but he hates these games and he keeps buying them and supporting these guy to keep making shitty games. he's not really helping.
TheGameSharks He isn't supporting them when he is warning us not to buy the game. He HAS to buy it to tell us if the/a game is good enough to take our hard earn cash.
TheGameSharks
11:28 "Mines a review copy,"
LISTEN TO HIM! he got it for free! And if people use this to make an informed decision then it will be more likely to get the sales it does or does not deserve, i'll wait for his full review before i make a decision. if it's complete crap i won't buy it! So there! One less supporter in me and likely thousands of others too!
TheGameSharks
Because he wants to finally have a good Pirate Themes RPG, and so is cursed to keep playing games that claim to be exactly that in hopes that he will finally have one.
It cracks me up with all the people giving him hell for hating on a fucking terrible game. This is what he does and it is what he ALWAYS has done. The game blows. It is very apparent it does just in the section that he is playing. Poor sound quality, poor graphics, poor physics, poor gameplay = a piss poor game. If it sucks, then he is going to take advantage of his name....do I even have to explain this anymore? Fucking wow.
***** Suck at it? Let me get this straight, if you have to fucking FORCE yourself to deal with shitty controls and a half-assed combat system that is also BROKEN, then there is something wrong with the game.....not you. Some people want to see this game for more because it deals with stuff that they might find interesting and often missing in current RPG's, but this game is horribly made and there is really no questions about that. Look at the improvement that Two Worlds 2 made over the original Two Worlds. While the combat in that was still clunky, Joe still acknowledged that the game was significantly better than its predecessor and that was VERY apparent in his review of the game. The guy has been doing this for years. Whether he sucks at it or not doesn't make up for the fact that the game is fucking shit. Why try and get good at a game if it sucks? I know I personally don't even care to waste my time. Yet, they still keep rushing out these Risen games with hardly any improvement whatsoever. That is his main qualm and he only HATES so they will do the work and FIX these fucking shitty games. We are on the third game now, so I seriously doubt that will ever happen at this point.
Erik Henson This is the best Risen so far, they improved a hell of a lot. Still suffers from many flaws and they stuck in the past features. Maybe you should watch gameplay from other UA-camrs, you have seen nothing of the game in his video/stream.
David Souleye I saw him trying to hit a bird who would jump backwards and then charge forward and him not being able to do anything about it. Unless there is an additional action he can perform, looks pretty annoying to me.
Erik Henson
He is. not. playing this game. even remotely. correctly.
Good lord, how many times must this be repeated?
The combat is based on timed button presses where each attack must follow on the heels of the previous. Spamming attack like Joe is doing is PENALIZED with a slowed attack speed, which is why he's getting his ass handed to him. The combat is based on a three-combo (you later get an additional combo and many other abilities such as riposte, increased attack speed, tons of buffs etc once you level up your character) attack pattern, with the first fast attack doing the 'ole TWitcher2 gap-bridging pirouette (only Risen 3 does it better than The Witcher 2 because it's far more consistent and reliable) if your enemy is a certain distance when you attack. It's a challenging, robust and rewarding melee system in its own right, and made even more impressive when you realize it is but a tiny, tiny cog in the well-oiled machine that is Risen 3.
tl;dr: it's a great system that Joe doesn't have the willpower, interest or ability to properly engage in.
To take a page from Reading Rainbow: you don't have to take my word for it. Read a game developer's analysis of the combat system on the Steam forums if you don't believe me:
steamcommunity.com/app/249230/discussions/0/35221031595968254/
urbium
Sounds like a shit system to me. Repeatedly pressing a button is a common technique to allow a character to attack as soon as possible. Punishing the player for doing that is just stressful. You're supposed be able to kill the first enemies by mashing a button and get increasingly difficult enemies throughout the game, not having the first enemies requiring you to know all that already.
For everybody, who's been giving Joe hate lately, let me tell you this, this man has worked his ass off for several years for us, and he does this without any vacations, so instead of hating him, how about you pity him? If you worked as much as he does than you would understand, so cut the guy some slack already, and just be happy he does this for us.
yeah ... I want to play games and review them ... it really looks like hard work .... :|
Udnas Navzar Actually it can be, if you are a reviewer, you have to play a game typically all the way through, sometimes two or three times, as fast as you reasonably can so it can. And you have to record it all, usually script the review, then edit in the scenes you want that you recorded which can takes hours alone, then if you have special effects in your review you have to put those in. Keep in mind you often have to do this for games you don't like or find boring, and all the expenses of buying the game, recording it all, getting editing software etc comes from your own pockets, only for jackasses online to threaten you, insult you, harass you, or other such shit if they don't like your review.
DarkOmicron Also, disregard my typos. Mobile UA-cam doesn't let me edit my comments for some reason and my phone has shitty word detection.
yeah ... still think it's easy ... I'm an engineer and from my point of view it's easy ... (I kind of play games like you said it but let me just point out that he doesn't play all the games that appear just the ones that he finds interesting to review ... I played shitty games just to see why they are shitty call me crazy but I still think it's not that hard of a job)
i like angry joe and all but he makes a lot of money between his streams and review
It's a solid 7/7.5 for me. The jankyness is expected and I'm personally enjoying the game.
I've been playing it for 17 hours and having a blast with it. If you liked the previous Risen games you should get this because it's better than those.
Almost no one liked the previous Risen games. Saying the game is a 7/10 because the "jankyness is expected" is the stupidest thing i have ever heard.
If you expected it to be Janky why did you give them your money, you are essentially telling them to keep making, "Janky", games and not to improve because you'll buy it anyway!
I would give this game a 3/10 because ride to hell and rambo the videogame are worse.
AzureRoxe
I really liked the first Risen. I heard some bad things about Risen 2 even from Risen fans, but this one seems better than Risen so I'll likely pick it up at some point.
Ed L
Oh idk, because Joe's a reviewer? It's kinda his job and having reviewed the previous 2 games, he kinda needed to check out the 3rd one even if he expects it to be shit.
Should i cry or laugh when i read the comments? I dont know.
Everything i see is Risen fanboys, trying to defend this bad game, or AngryJoes fanboys, raging, calling this game bad for the wrong reasons and havent even played it.
I agree, this game is not good, i'm a fan since Gothic 1, but i'm really disapointed about Risen 2+3.
Gothic or Risen never had good grafic, but somehow they always created this special atmosphere, you can only find in this games. Maybe its because of the unique humor and characters (at least with the german voice actors).
The problem of Risen 2 and 3 is, the games want to be like AAA titles. The slowmotion-killcams, and all this shit in Risen 2. Now, the scripted stuff on the ship.
The devs should focus on the stuff, that you only find in Gothic, or Risen 1, the Hero who dont want to be one, annoyed by all the lazy idiots giving him quests, sarcastic, and sometimes an asshole.
And the combat, the system was never perfect, but Risen 1 had a very good one, with its own problems, but it was good. With intuitive dodge, block, hard attaks, normal attaks, fast but weak attaks, and all this stuff. In Risen 1, you could win against every human enemy, if you have the skills. Risen 2 can be beaten by clicking one mouse button, and if i look at the video, it seems to be the same with Rise 3. I have no idea why they changed their combat system, it really disapoints me.
This game is not bad because of grafic and bad animations, a game can be good even if it doesnt look good, this game is bad, because it wants to be like AC3, it trys to imitate a big game to reach a bigger playerbase, and throws away everything that made it unique, and everything why we fans loved the games, even with their mistakes.
I appologize for my terrible grammar, spelling, and everything else, what i wanted to point out is very complicated and my english is not the best.
***** The first few times i laugh but its not funny anymore.
I really should stop reading comments under the videos of large and popular channels.
I barely see a constructive comment about the game itself, i just see heavy insulting, on both sides, the Fans of Risen and the Fans of Angry Joe.
I just think their all trolls trying their best to frustrate everyone with their opinion
Dont bother yourself too much with it. The trolls are raiding the comments of his vids for far too long so who knows which are even real opinions.
Risen 1's combat was wash rinse and repeat...you were never given those different attacks in the beginning and it was still a clunky nightmare.
This new system is no different, still lock on,still tit for tat, still takes a year to ill an enemy. The only thing they changed was the camera.
What you see isn't a group of risen fans, cuz there aren't any. They're all xbox fans.
If the Risen series does one thing exceedingly well, it makes one appreciate Assassin's Creed IV as the more worthwhile pirates game. Y'arr!
I am an old school piranha bytes fan and I have to admit that they just won't learn from their mistakes. Gothic I was awesome and Gothic II even more so with the expansion of Gothic II making it a masterpiece in my eyes. It might just be nostalgia tainting my opinion here a little but still those games were good even by today's standards, well maybe not graphics wise, and I still replay these to this day. Then I thought after the shit Gothic III and the bastard child Arcania that the series and piranha bytes had officially died but I was pleasantly surprised risen was actually an awesome game revising the spark that made me enjoy the old games. But still I noticed it was going down hill because piranha bytes just plain refuse to learn from their mistakes, namely the combat being the major while not the only one. They have awesome worlds and characters and the game really feels alive especially when playing with the original German soundtrack but Risen 2 and 3 are below average. As a fan I can't say they are good games! Yes they have the occasional spark that made previous titles so awesome but overall they are dragged down by their flaws. Look, as a fan I can tell you that there are still people hoping that piranha bytes finally get their shit together to make a great game. They have so much potential but if they keep hoping that their die-hard fans will keep turning a blind eye to their bullshit they are only limiting themselves.
I and a lot of other fans hope that they still got what it takes to create a great game but with so much wasted potential I see nothing but a grim future for them as a company.
Best thing about Risen III is that it gave us this video.
Risen 1 was below average, Risen 2 was below average, why the hell do people think it was going to be different?
Gothic 1 & 2 were awesome games. One of the first 3d rpg's.
Kaam I am yeah they were but try to play it now... the control and combat system is even worse than this because the mouse doesnt work correctly the only thing better(much better maybe?) on Gothic I and II is story
***** after so many years I doubt they'll get anything right to emulate a Gothic feel, as much as I love Gothic I learned from Squaresoft and FF13 and just stop before it becomes an embarassment
Actually the game is pretty good once you get over some of the issues, I got over 35 hours on it and didn't finished the game. Definitely worth the money.
Time spent does not equal good
When I'm in a bad mood I go watch joe
Thank god I watched this. I was actually going to buy it.
At least wait for his actual review before you decide. This is just his reactions. It's not exactly an objective analysis.
SuperRodimusPrime Can't say for sure, but I think releasing this video means he's not going to be reviewing it anymore.
The rabid fanbase on showcase in these comments sure as hell removes any purpose to putting in the work to review it now. It's Dark Souls all over again!
i2ply
He released a reaction video for Titan Fall and he still reviewed that. I hope he does review this though since he already did it for the first two.
The game is awesome! In my opinion it combines the strengths of Risen 1 and 2, you have a huge handbuilt world to explore, tons of quests, 3 fractions to choose from, a rewarding combat system that makes you really feel the progress you make by learning skills and pretty decent graphics.
But if you're interested, definitely buy the PC version! It's a PC game made by PC developers and the Xbox and PS3 Version is supposed to be pretty crappy.
Save your money trust me, there are better games out there worth those hard earned money.
Sissy Americans ! Giant chickens always are starting enemies that wreck your shit in Piranha Bytes games,. It's classical European RPG, Joe, not "press to win" self-glorification "action" crap.
And by the way, CD Projekt uses Piranha Bytes games for inspiration - www.worldofrisen.de/?section=newsdetail&id=1867 Witcher 3 will be build around same mechanics, so better get used to it.
So this game is amazing?
I'll deck you in the schnoz, ᵇᵘᵗ ᵈᵒᶰ'ᵗ ᵗᵉᶫᶫ ᵃᶰʸᵒᶰᵉ It has a lot of room for improvement. But still is a nice change of pace after hand-holding. AND the strongest part of PB's work always was their writing and non-obvious multi-option quest handling, kind of like in Deus Ex 1.
Yes! Finally someone who understands, also if you're bad at a game like Joe is clearly showing substantially, It doesn't make the game bad. It's also clearly showing he's trying to button smash which is the exact opposite of what you do in Risen/Gothic games.
I remember the joy I had when I first played Risen 3, it was like I was so happy someone implemented dark souls with pirates.
Everyone: "I hate games that are too easy, I'd rather play a game that is too hard as opposed to being too easy"
*Goes to play the game*
"This is too hard, it's unfair and it's bullshit. What the fuck?"
William lc Damn, way to insult someone over their own opinion.
Why does Joe give good games shitty reviews and bad games great reviews simply because he wants his hand to be held all the way through? ESO to be honest deserved maybe a 6 or 7 but definitely not a 5! And Planetside 2 most CERTAINLY didn't deserve a 6.
I laughed my ass off when I saw that he gave Guild Wars 2 a 10/10.
Risen's combat is all about skill, precision and timing, not button mashing like Joe is used to. It's basically "I can't button mash until he's dead?! THIS GAME SUCKS DICK AHFAUSDIBGUSGFUHGAG 1/10!"
You can also clearly see that he always wants his hand to be held if you watch his ESO review. Mainly he complains about nitpicky crap like horses being too expensive, and monsters not dropping a bazillion gold, not being able to kill NPCs in an MMO (Which is being added in a future update anyway) and the map being too big.
u understood absolutely nothing did u
yet you talk about planetside to like its a good game and guildwars 2 like its a shitty game..apparently you are the one that likes shitty games...gw2 was awesome... never played planetside 2 but watcehd my brother play it..and all it is is cash cow..microtrans everywhere lolif you call that a good game then idk wtf is wrong with you
naruto5112 You can hear him mashing the A button over and over during the video. I think he completely understands. Joe is used to button mashing and gets frustrated when it doesn't work.
thetravelingboy im going to try to explain this as simply as I can, this whole game is button mashing - people say its about timing but that's only an excuse to cover up the terrible attack speed when u try to wait for the right time to attack all u doin till the is parry or dodge..... button mashing if im wrong please tell me where the strategy suppose to be in this
naruto5112 I don't think you understand what 'button mashing' means. If Joe had tried to understand the combat instead of spamming one button over and over he would have been carefully pressing A after each animation was almost complete so he could roll or parry if he saw a (very long) pre-attack animation from the enemy, and that's just one example. "Button mashing" is mashing repeatedly the same button or buttons expecting something good to happen. Joe was button mashing.
Risen's progtression from 1 to 3 makes u appreciate the progress from witcher games
Witcher 3 is trash and not an rpg.
@@jonathansoko1085 lmfao Witcher 3 is masterpiece, Risen 3 is total trash.
@@teemuvesala9575 Why not both? Both are trash.
Haha love watching joe when he's angry! Freaking hilarious. I don't care if it's a shitty game or not, I just enjoy joe raging like a mad man.
Came back to check one of my favorite videos from thus guy 😅
Jesus, Joe has been getting a lot hate lately.
Cause this video is bullshit. After seeing this and looking at the comments section I decided to give this game a go. Yes the combat is a bit shitty but it's not that bad. He didn't talk to Bones if he talked to him these areas are easy as hell. He is over reacting and he deserves the hate.
***** You gave it a try or did you buy it? Because if you'd buy it, then you would understand Joe arrogance regarding this game, i mean i would never pay for something like this, if someone gives me it for free, then yeah.
King Doxom Tried it.
***** Joe's probably taking a good bit into account, like the actual value of this game. I did some research and it looks like they used a lot of assets from their previous game for this one. That's kind of a dick move, especially taking into account the flawed melee system and they're selling it at full price. Yeah, Joe might be overreacting, but this game certainly doesn't deserve to be held from all the punches.
Maverickslayer744
You are completely right. This is my first Risen game btw.
Alright, so after I saw this video and all Angry Joe gameplay, I decided to give this game a go anyway.Why you ask? Because I did enjoy both first games. I didn't love it like lets say Black Flag or the latest Divinity Original Sin, but I did enjoy it nevertheless. I'm like 6.5 hours in game now and I must admit I will defend this game. It's not great, let's get that straight, but there is so much more to it, than Joe can see. Yes! Perhaps some of the aspects of it aren't good (voice acting is pretty bad, combat may be stiff), but there is more to it. I don't know why people complain about graphics. I'm fine with it. Sure. Could be better, but it's alright. Joe's not really subjective here, because he's playing it wrong! That's the problem. Here's why:
First of all he's not a patient gamer. He wants to punch through the game ninja style. NO! That's not what the game is. This game is for people who are patient, like to explore every little secret and play thoroughly through it (and trust me, it IS rewarding if you do that). True, combat is hard at the beginning with basic weapon and stats...BUT...Bones is there for you. If Joe would take some time to actually talk to the guy, he would find out, that Bones can join you right from the beginning and accompany you AT ALL TIMES (and he heals you!). That makes exploration much easier, allows you to learn basic combat a bit better (by the way, tried both X360 gamepad and mouse+keyboard and it seems the latter is much better in my opinion). So there...first island and you can get your stats up and even find a better weapon, which makes it easier. Like I said, it's all about EXPLORATION! This game is made like that. You call it grinding. Well...that's your way of putting it, but I like to explore every corner and crawl into every hole, because I know that somewhere there, there is a nice loot waiting for me (better weapon, amulets, rings, or even a collectable, that will increase one of your stat permanently). Combat gets much easier as you progress, and when you visit Kila island next, Patty will also join you, so you have two companions with you, and even if you want to ignore the fight, in most cases you can, they will take care of most of your enemies. Oh...thing about that. Enemies names and how Joe is raging about the color red. IT'S NOT THE INDICATION OF ENEMY'S LEVEL!!! IT'S NOT MMO JOE!!! It simply means the creature is hostile towards you. Most creatures in this game can be avoided. Even if they see you, they won't attack unless you get too close (hence the yellow name above). Sure. Some monsters will attack on sight, but like I said, you can avoid a lot of combat if you want to. So that made me laugh, he's raging at red names above the monsters not even understanding it properly. Trust me. I can go on and on about other stuff, but I thing this is enough.
In summation. This game still have much to offer to people who want to play it like good old fashioned Gothic was played. EXPLORE IT! It's gonna be hard for people who just want to punch through the story right to the end of it. Sure. There are many things here that could be (and quite frankly should be improved), but if you give it a patient go and learn it's mechanics, it still can be an enjoyable adventure, despite all flaws. I wouldn't hesitate to give this a 5/10 (for those 6.5 hours of playing).
Oh...one more thing...I didn't have my enemies or me for that matter teleporting in combat. Everything is smooth, so I guess playing this game, recording it and streaming at the same time might be the cause of that Joe? Think about it, I would like to see you giving this game a solid go, by yourself, without streaming, and then have a decent review. As much as your rants are enjoyable, this one I will not agree with. Go back to ranting at Xbox One, you're best at it >_
You sound like a plant. Do you work for the developer and if so how much are they paying you?
General Zod And you sound like a 14 year old kid, whos daddy finally paid for the internet, and it's hating and trolling time!!! No! They don't pay me. I'm just a bit more forgiving towards people, who gave us Gothic. Wanna give me an intelligent and mature reason why you say so? Or am I asking for too much?
General Zod And you sound like an Angry Joe fanboy who refuses to see just how shitty and superficial a gamer he really is.
Your logic is flawed. Just because I liked Borderlands and Brothers in Arms which were made by Gearbox doesn't mean Aliens Colonial Marines and Duke Nukem Forever, also made by Gearbox, weren't big steaming piles of sh!t. I don't enjoy games based solely on them being a bad copy of another game I liked. That is not even mentioning the blatant glitches I saw. Like how when Joe tried to swim to his boat it kept loading and repeatedly jumping him back.
Pwned by a birdie. Way to go, Joe.
this makes me want to run into the arms of Assassin's Creed Black Flag.