By any stretch of the imagination Flyingbolt's win in this race was truly phenomenal. The sight of him splashing through that water under his twelve stone six and going flat out over those last few fences is a remarkable sight. And probably will never be seen again. I watched it on TV live that day and have never forgotten it. .
@@garrywilson7327 The jockey.. ..pat taaffe said.."Arkle with a bit in hand" due to his superior speed after the last. He probably meant the front running flyingbolt would have set a blistering pace, Arkle tucked in behind, then done him on the run in. Mill House who taaffe was recorded as saying was the second best he rode, Tried and failed with these tactics.... miserably!!!Mi
@@beverleymorris167 - 1 watched a replay the other day of the 1965 King George at Kempton. While you can marvel at the magnificent brilliance of Arkle, the race was badly marred by the tragic death of Dunkirk. Well, Timeform had Arkle 2 pound better than Flyingbolt, perhaps that was about right.
@@garrywilson7327 👍 great race, Arkle had just caught up with him, and the way he galloped to line, he would have swamped him . He was a great 2 miler Dunkirk. Incidentally Buonna notte, of Massey Ferguson fame, beat Dunkirk as novices..... That shows what a task Arkle had in that Massey Ferguson! Giving nearly 2 stone to that horse, only seven days after trouncing mill House in Hennessy giving him weight!
I watched this race live on TV and have never forgotten the deep impression it made on me. I personally doubt there has ever been another steeple chaser born who would have beaten Flyingbolt that day.
Arkles Gallagher was better performance...the greatest of all time.... flyingbolt could have been flattered a bit by the going... described on the day as the worst ever seen.. flyingbolt loved heavy. Brilliant performance still though.
@@beverleymorris167 Flyingbolt could handle any underfoot conditions as he proved in hurdle and chase wins. Tom Dreaper once told a racing hack that Flyingbolt was so good that he could have won at any distance from a mile up to 2 miles on the FLAT.
I HAVE STUDIES THOUSANDS OF RACES IN THE 60’S 70’S AND 80’S AND IM CONVINCED THE CHAMPION HORSES FROM THAT ERA WERE FAR BETTER THAN THOSE OF TODAY. FLYINGBOLT WAS A CHAMPION OF CHAMPIONS AND IF YOU DISECT HIS FORM IN DETAIL THAN ITS VERY CLOSE TO ARKLES. GREAT GREAT MEMORIES AND THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEOS
Sprinter Sacre and Flyingbolt were the greatest two-mile chasers I have ever seen. But I doubt that ANY horse could emulate Flyingbolt's performance of finishing third in the 1966 Champion Hurdle after destroying the Two Mile Champion chase field (QMCC) just 24 hours previously. Flyingbolt was a truly phenomenal chaser.
@@bazggw6878 Badsworth boys 1983, 36length demolition job, is one of the forgotten great performance's. The best since flyingbolt. They said. .....and still the best. A phenomenal performance.
@@beverleymorris167 Michael Dickinson who trained Badsworth Boy was on Luck on Sunday about 2 years ago even said that Flyingbolt was the best he'd ever seen
Not according to Liam McLoughlin or Paddy Woods who also rode both of them at home, don't have to ride them in races to know which was better, Liam won a bumper on Flyingbolt first time out at Navan, the same day T P Burns won on Arkle over 1m 5f, Arkle never won a bumper. The Duchess had a lot to say about where and when Flyingbolt ran, as long as it wasn't against her lad. And as for Pat Taaffe's book she dictated what was written in it..
@@roberto4001000 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Flyingbolt would have beaten him at level weights, everyone knew that including They Duchess, that's why she insisted they never met, but sadly Bolt contracted TB, Arkle and Mill House were only Match race's in the Gold Cup.,have a good day 👋
I was at Haydock one foggy January afternoon and was lucky enough to watch this superhorse take the water jump in front of the stands and win in a canter for Barry Brogan and Ken Oliver. I will never forget it.
3rd January 1969 Haydock Park 2 mile Gamekeepers Handicap Chase,won 4 lengths carrying 12st 7lb 4 ran,and there was a water jump in front of the stands,it was a spectacle,the water jump has since been removed.
I was talking with Barry Brogan last evening, Barry rode both Arkle and Flying Bolt at work. He suggested that Flying Bolt was actually a better horse than Arkle and if had been allowed by trainer Tom Dreaper to run in the 1966 Gold Cup alongside his stablemate he would have beaten the great Arkle.
Given what happened the only time they jumped fences together on the gallops, I'm glad Tom Dreaper and both owners had more sense than to ever let them meet in a race. It could only ever have ended one way. One horse would win - the other would be dead.
@@garrywilson7327 flyingbolts win in the irish grand national disagrees with you. go back and look at the form. and weight concessions between arkle's and flyingbolts wins in the race. flyingbolt is the greatest chaser of all time.
@@johnwedgbury6817 it doesn't; Arkle gave 3 stone to Height of Fashion and beat her by a neck in the Leopardstown chase in February 1966, with Slash also receiving 3 stone, Flyingbolt gave Height of Fashion 40lb and beat her 2 lengths, on that, they were equal
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What a magnificent spectacle,Flyingbolt carrying 12st6lbs ,tough horses in those days!
By any stretch of the imagination Flyingbolt's win in this race was truly phenomenal. The sight of him splashing through that water under his twelve stone six and going flat out over those last few fences is a remarkable sight. And probably will never be seen again. I watched it on TV live that day and have never forgotten it. .
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Many of Arkle's performances were similar in terms of merit. Not easy to say who was the better of the two.
@@garrywilson7327 The jockey..
..pat taaffe said.."Arkle with a bit in hand" due to his superior speed after the last.
He probably meant the front running flyingbolt would have set a blistering pace,
Arkle tucked in behind, then done him on the run in.
Mill House who taaffe was
recorded as saying was
the second best he rode,
Tried and failed with these tactics.... miserably!!!Mi
@@beverleymorris167 - 1 watched a replay
the other day of the 1965 King George at
Kempton. While you can marvel at the magnificent brilliance of Arkle, the race was badly marred by the tragic death of Dunkirk. Well, Timeform had Arkle 2 pound better than Flyingbolt, perhaps that was about right.
@@garrywilson7327 👍 great race, Arkle had just caught up with him, and the way he galloped to line, he would have swamped him .
He was a great 2 miler Dunkirk.
Incidentally Buonna notte,
of Massey Ferguson fame, beat Dunkirk as novices.....
That shows what a task Arkle had in that Massey Ferguson!
Giving nearly 2 stone to that horse, only seven days after
trouncing mill House in Hennessy giving him weight!
I watched this race live on TV and have never forgotten the deep impression it made on me. I personally doubt there has ever been another steeple chaser born who would have beaten Flyingbolt that day.
Arkles Gallagher was better
performance...the greatest
of all time.... flyingbolt could have been flattered a bit by the going... described on the day as the worst ever
seen.. flyingbolt loved heavy.
Brilliant performance still
though.
Arkle would have beaten him because he would have broke his heart but flying bolt was a great steeplechaser
@@thomaslogue7773
Never, not on that going
@@beverleymorris167 Flyingbolt could handle any underfoot conditions as he proved in hurdle and chase wins. Tom Dreaper once told a racing hack that Flyingbolt was so good that he could have won at any distance from a mile up to 2 miles on the FLAT.
I HAVE STUDIES THOUSANDS OF RACES IN THE 60’S 70’S AND 80’S AND IM CONVINCED THE CHAMPION HORSES FROM THAT ERA WERE FAR BETTER THAN THOSE OF TODAY. FLYINGBOLT WAS A CHAMPION OF CHAMPIONS AND IF YOU DISECT HIS FORM IN DETAIL THAN ITS VERY CLOSE TO ARKLES. GREAT GREAT MEMORIES AND THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEOS
John kimber.....cant compare things like that.obviously we wil never no..
@@darrensmith4279 know!!!!
@@seamusfallon3104 pinocchio keep ur beak out.ur a sad individual.dont u KNOW its in txt form.people like u make me urgh!!!!!!
@@seamusfallon3104 GET THE MESSAGE fu.. of.
Flyingbolt was back in his stable when the second passed the post.
Sprinter Sacre and Flyingbolt were the greatest two-mile chasers I have ever seen. But I doubt that ANY horse could emulate Flyingbolt's performance of finishing third in the 1966 Champion Hurdle after destroying the Two Mile Champion chase field (QMCC) just 24 hours previously. Flyingbolt was a truly phenomenal chaser.
Ted Walsh reckons he wld have ate Arkle also maybe not the best 2 miler ever but Master Minded's 1st Champion chase win was something special 🏇🏇🏇🏇🏇
@@bazggw6878 Ted's full of crap .
Ted said he would swish arkles tail over 2 half mile but over 3 mile arkle would won easy in a match pat taffeta said that
@@bazggw6878 Badsworth boys 1983, 36length demolition job, is one of the forgotten great performance's. The best since flyingbolt. They said. .....and still the best.
A phenomenal performance.
@@beverleymorris167
Michael Dickinson who trained Badsworth Boy was on Luck on Sunday about 2 years ago even said that Flyingbolt was the best he'd ever seen
Pat Taaffe rode both and said that if they had met at any distance over 3 miles, he was certain that Arkle would have beaten Flyingbolt every time.
Enough said , pat knew best 😊😊
@@kevinmunday5782 exactly...rode the races, not just on gallops.
Not according to Liam McLoughlin or Paddy Woods who also rode both of them at home, don't have to ride them in races to know which was better, Liam won a bumper on Flyingbolt first time out at Navan, the same day T P Burns won on Arkle over 1m 5f, Arkle never won a bumper. The Duchess had a lot to say about where and when Flyingbolt ran, as long as it wasn't against her lad. And as for Pat Taaffe's book she dictated what was written in it..
@@unasmyth1379 Go back to bed Una you're talking rubbish .
@@roberto4001000 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Flyingbolt would have beaten him at level weights, everyone knew that including They Duchess, that's why she insisted they never met, but sadly Bolt contracted TB, Arkle and Mill House were only Match race's in the Gold Cup.,have a good day 👋
I was at Haydock one foggy January afternoon and was lucky enough to watch this superhorse take the water jump in front of the stands and win in a canter for Barry Brogan and Ken Oliver. I will never forget it.
The horse never ran at Haydock in its life and the water jump is on the far side of the track, please dont make yourself look silly.
3rd January 1969 Haydock Park
2 mile Gamekeepers Handicap Chase,won 4 lengths carrying 12st 7lb 4 ran,and there was a water jump in front of the stands,it was a spectacle,the water jump has since been removed.
@@anthonyryan5122 Who's looking silly now Anthony lad you 🤡
@@davidmastin416 thank you
@@anthonyryan5122 It did run at haydock!!
I was talking with Barry Brogan last evening, Barry rode both Arkle and Flying Bolt at work. He suggested that Flying Bolt was actually a better horse than Arkle and if had been allowed by trainer Tom Dreaper to run in the 1966 Gold Cup alongside his stablemate he would have beaten the great Arkle.
Couldn't agree more with you, Chris, Barry told me the same, , he said if The Duchess owned Him we would probably never heard as much about Arkle,
The facts don't support your view. Whatever Flyingbolt achieved, in terms of form, Arkle did the same.
Given what happened the only time they jumped fences together on the gallops, I'm glad Tom Dreaper and both owners had more sense than to ever let them meet in a race. It could only ever have ended one way.
One horse would win - the other would be dead.
@@garrywilson7327 flyingbolts win in the irish grand national disagrees with you. go back and look at the form. and weight concessions between arkle's and flyingbolts wins in the race. flyingbolt is the greatest chaser of all time.
@@johnwedgbury6817 it doesn't; Arkle gave 3 stone to Height of Fashion and beat her by a neck in the Leopardstown chase in February 1966, with Slash also receiving 3 stone, Flyingbolt gave Height of Fashion 40lb and beat her 2 lengths, on that, they were equal