Great interchange and terminus stations are always fascinating. Penn station has such a great history and the engineering in putting it under street level (and the Hudson tunnels) were and are heroic. Watching trains make their way across the complex trackwork is always fascinating. When I was commuting to and frrom London's Waterloo station I always used to make time to go and watch the trains there coming in across similarly complex sets of pointwork. Great video - many thanks.
LIRR uses west side yard for midday storage and uses tracks 18-21 almost exclusively. LIRR, NJT & Amtrak share tracks 5-17 from time to time. Finally, NJT almost exclusively uses tracks 1-4 because they end in bumper blocks at the east end of the station.
Love from India and I love the station. In India there is mostly rush and if this station was in India then the full platform will get covered with people. In India the maximum coach limit of passenger train is 24 coaches and its common coach limit. And if anyone is visiting indian then I will recommend you to travel in konkan route which starts from roha and ends in mangalore in day time in monsoon or rainy season because then you can see the beauty of konkan mountains.
@@CommuterRailProductions one electric or diesel loco can pull whole train but goods train can maximum pull 64 wagons what about maximum wagon pulling limit of american goods train
Splendid! I love hanging out at and visiting Penn Station. It’s been about 2 years now since the last time I ever stepped foot into it, and hopefully this year may be the year I get into doing that again. Anyways I already subscribed now!
the trackwork is astounding. all the turnouts and crossovers its a wonder there arent more derailments. cudos to the track crews that keep them tip top
I see that at least on the single storey carriages the pushed trains have front end viewing access for the public as well YAY! (oh yes, it is ELECTRIFIED!!!!!!!!!! YES!
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A whole lotta trains, but to this non NYC person I would have liked to have had some information. I'm assuming you were filming on the west end of platform ??? Maybe? Good video though. Thanks.
What's powering the NJ Transit sets? It looks like the pantographs are down! I wouldn't think they are dually equipped for third rail. Do they have batteries?
@@1llenium Agree about the Amtrak GE units, but I was referencing the NJ Transit sets with pantographs. Do they have both catenary and also third rail capability?
Why are there two doors at the ends of the double decker NJ Transit cars? Is it one for upper level and one for lower level? On the subject of doors, they are quite sparse on the commuter trains. In Europe this would be seen on intercity or regional trains, but on commuter trains, like on subways, you want faster boarding and de-boarding of the train because of the many stops.
That's correct. The doors at the ends are for low level and high level platforms, while the doors towards the center are for high level platforms only.
Nice video but are you even allowed to film in the platform area because I've done it before but it was a short period of time and this back in February 2019 and I was on the tight schedule at that same time..
Yes. Amtrak has photography guidelines. If you have a ticket you can photograph anywhere in a public location on their property as long as it's a handheld device and you're not interrupting anyone. Buy a ticket for a train a few hours ahead and photograph away. You're just simply waiting for your train and killing time
Back in the day ('m old) railfans were harassed night and day due to 9/11. Amtrak and New Jersey Transit openly supported photography but it took nearly a decade for local cops to get the message. Nowadays. No one cares as long as your not in the way
@@TrainBrain2000 Last time I tried that was a few years ago and I was literally escorted off the platform back up the escalator… I tried to assert that it was ok according to the rules but had no luck with the rude “security” Anyways, great video keep them coming :)
Cool How did you not get kicked out because when I was there the station security told me if you are boarding a train you can wait down there but if you’re just watching trains you can’t be there
@@saxmanb777 makes sense, however in some of the trains it is actually possible to spot people. For example, the NJ Transit train at 0:40 has 3/4 visible passengers, which is shockingly low ridership for such a large consist
@@osasunaitor it is possible this is a PM rush hour and that NJ transit train was headed inbound, which would be why the train is not too crowded since most people would be leaving Penn Station not arriving
@@trainsnstufff RVL only has Newark Penn that's it, its technically not on the NEC as it diverts off of it, and ye NJCL is somewhat on the NEC but diverts off of it too. so thats why i dont say its on the NEC
2:25 I love that little indent in the platform to accommodate the turning radius of the cars!
I love the complex structure. The number of switches, tracks, and cantenrary wires fascinate me
yeah, Penn Station is a MAJOR interchange hub
Me too
Gotta love how they only put 15mph switches there. Classic questionable US rail infrastructure at it's best.
Have a look at literally any major station in Europe and get back to me, or even Clapham Junction in London..
@@framekixrr Penn Station is just... different in a way. It's unique.
What is truly impressive is that this station is over 100 years old and still functioning!
that's young compared to the rest of the world
@@Flogger1345who cares, it’s still a big milestone in itself
@@celbuodbut it is true
@@Flogger1345truuuuueeeeeee
Such a tragedy that they got rid of the far nicer old Penn station!!
I love Penn Station, it´s soy special, a lot of tracks, trains, and train stuff.
Cheers from Argentina
Great interchange and terminus stations are always fascinating. Penn station has such a great history and the engineering in putting it under street level (and the Hudson tunnels) were and are heroic. Watching trains make their way across the complex trackwork is always fascinating. When I was commuting to and frrom London's Waterloo station I always used to make time to go and watch the trains there coming in across similarly complex sets of pointwork. Great video - many thanks.
4:30 That's a very confused ALP-46!
No kidding! The front windows resemble a set of eyes and the right brow is lower than the other!
Great footage. Absolutely fascinating how railroad life operates at Penn Station. How they keep em all separated
LIRR uses west side yard for midday storage and uses tracks 18-21 almost exclusively. LIRR, NJT & Amtrak share tracks 5-17 from time to time. Finally, NJT almost exclusively uses tracks 1-4 because they end in bumper blocks at the east end of the station.
4:40 Ah, so I guess _every_ railroad has a guy who runs with the dome light on.
Great Video! For Some Reason I Am Addicted To Hearing The Announcements.
Music to my ears and a sight to see
Great action and catches underneath the station and around the platform area.
Very nice video! It’s quite amazing on how this structure looks with all the switches. Nicely done!
wow at 7 pm this is really very busy so many train bypass non stop love it mmm the sound of crossing over another track watching it from singapore
Love from India and I love the station. In India there is mostly rush and if this station was in India then the full platform will get covered with people. In India the maximum coach limit of passenger train is 24 coaches and its common coach limit. And if anyone is visiting indian then I will recommend you to travel in konkan route which starts from roha and ends in mangalore in day time in monsoon or rainy season because then you can see the beauty of konkan mountains.
Damn Indian trains can pull lots of coaches! I think the max the NJT trains can hold is 10.
@@CommuterRailProductions one electric or diesel loco can pull whole train but goods train can maximum pull 64 wagons what about maximum wagon pulling limit of american goods train
In America, the average freight cars are 70. But there is no illegal limit for the amount of freight cars you have.
I Love Trains Very Awesome Work
2:33 why does the njt train have the red lights on when its going forward?
might be indicate its full of passenger
3:47 first time I’ve ever seen a P32 do that
It's rare alright, basically Metro-North on the Hudson Line
@@AaronJrBrundidge do what
@@MOMAZOSPATO third rail spark from a dual-mode locomotive
Run these everyday its more common than you think. Might have had it in the first notch while coasting through the gaps
@@theknickerbocker5808 so are they not as good in electric only mode?
Awesome catches buddy 😊
Splendid! I love hanging out at and visiting Penn Station. It’s been about 2 years now since the last time I ever stepped foot into it, and hopefully this year may be the year I get into doing that again. Anyways I already subscribed now!
the trackwork is astounding. all the turnouts and crossovers its a wonder there arent more derailments. cudos to the track crews that keep them tip top
great vid
Those Amtrak cars are nearing 50 years old if I'm not mistaken!
Not really man
@@jeffreysrailfanning2817they are
Awesome 👌
3:24 the most dystopic announcement
Glad it’s over now. Never want to hear that again
Ì just love the switching configuration 😂
I see that at least on the single storey carriages the pushed trains have front end viewing access for the public as well YAY! (oh yes, it is ELECTRIFIED!!!!!!!!!! YES!
0:52, I was on that train that day.
16:59 what's that PC thing doing there?
It’s an old train car converted to an office. It’s not operational anymore
@@jackchen7003 oh thats cool
Are the shots mainly looking Westward toward the trans-Hudson tunnels? Are the main shots from Track 12? Or 15?
I Am Really In Love With You Amtrak Acela Express Trains ❤️🚆❤️
Looks fab to spot at. March next year it will be my turn to visit NYC.
0:00 what track are you on?
How did you get the video to upload to 4K. I have a camera that goes to 1080 but it uploads at like 720
Was this taken on platform/ track 5 11:20
This has both third rail and overhead wires? That's pretty uncommon. Is it AC overhead?
12kv ac overhead.
very nice video!! and amazing video quality.. what camera do you use? greetings from Italy
So what Amtrak routes go to Grande Central and What train were those P32s pulling?
Amtrak does not serve Grand Central.
The P32’s were pulling Empire Service trains which either go up to Albany or Niagara Falls.
Great video! Just curious, what day/time was this shot? Thanks!
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Wow, Great view, I love to see new places 👍✌️
Great movie 👍 Bravo 👋
And I have a new movie from a walk around the city 😊
Yours sincerely, DJ Janusz from Warsaw Poland ✌️ 🇵🇱✋
A whole lotta trains, but to this non NYC person I would have liked to have had some information. I'm assuming you were filming on the west end of platform ??? Maybe? Good video though. Thanks.
Is the Empire Connection tunnel Single Track or Double Track?
What platform are you on and how did NJT or Amtrak police come down and ask you what you're doing and to stop.
Catenary and third rail Electric Multiple Units Diesel Electric Dual Modes all doing their thing .
What's powering the NJ Transit sets? It looks like the pantographs are down! I wouldn't think they are dually equipped for third rail. Do they have batteries?
Third rail the GE diesel shows it has a third rail shoe on the side
@@1llenium Agree about the Amtrak GE units, but I was referencing the NJ Transit sets with pantographs. Do they have both catenary and also third rail capability?
@@NikonF5user no they are only catenary you can see how low the wires get but the pantograph is still up
@@NikonF5user 10:14 is when you can see one with pantograph still up
The clearance of the catenary is very low, and it looks like the pantograph is down
Why are there two doors at the ends of the double decker NJ Transit cars? Is it one for upper level and one for lower level?
On the subject of doors, they are quite sparse on the commuter trains. In Europe this would be seen on intercity or regional trains, but on commuter trains, like on subways, you want faster boarding and de-boarding of the train because of the many stops.
Because then they won’t have to turn around when heading the other direction
That's correct.
The doors at the ends are for low level and high level platforms, while the doors towards the center are for high level platforms only.
What track was this filmed on😊
Nice video but are you even allowed to film in the platform area because I've done it before but it was a short period of time and this back in February 2019 and I was on the tight schedule at that same time..
Yes. Amtrak has photography guidelines. If you have a ticket you can photograph anywhere in a public location on their property as long as it's a handheld device and you're not interrupting anyone. Buy a ticket for a train a few hours ahead and photograph away. You're just simply waiting for your train and killing time
@@billplatt Yeah pretty much. That make sense. Again, I haven't done it in awhile
Nobody cares. Wasn’t bothered at all
Back in the day ('m old) railfans were harassed night and day due to 9/11. Amtrak and New Jersey Transit openly supported photography but it took nearly a decade for local cops to get the message. Nowadays. No one cares as long as your not in the way
@@TrainBrain2000 Last time I tried that was a few years ago and I was literally escorted off the platform back up the escalator… I tried to assert that it was ok according to the rules but had no luck with the rude “security”
Anyways, great video keep them coming :)
sparks flying at 3:48
Is this publicly accessible?
What platform did you video from? it looks to be a great spot
Cool How did you not get kicked out because when I was there the station security told me if you are boarding a train you can wait down there but if you’re just watching trains you can’t be there
Gosh I cannot wait until Amtrak gets new trains.
It’s funny how they let me Railfan at NYP but not at 30th street station.
lmao
Exelent sistem pushpull congratulations by.
So gloomy, looks like Birmingham New Street Station in England!
So inefficient I want to cry. Staff is trying its best with what it has nonetheless
🤣 ain't that the truth.
Nj transit Silver liner 4???????
That’s Arrow III with the ABB AC Traction Motor
Where are all passengers?
might be a deadhead move from sunnyside yard
As a European, two things shock me about this
-The lack of ugly graffiti tags on every train/wall/etc
-The lack of passengers on board of trains
Most of these moves are deadheads being pulled in from the yard to go out with lots of people.
@@saxmanb777 makes sense, however in some of the trains it is actually possible to spot people. For example, the NJ Transit train at 0:40 has 3/4 visible passengers, which is shockingly low ridership for such a large consist
@@osasunaitor it is possible this is a PM rush hour and that NJ transit train was headed inbound, which would be why the train is not too crowded since most people would be leaving Penn Station not arriving
A Feb 9, 2022 Bloomberg article notes that NJ Transit rail ridership is only 40% of pre-pandemic levels.
@@osasunaitor this was during Covid of course it’s not gonna be as packed as it is today
You're gonna need ear protection in this place lmao
Nah it was fine when I was there
0:44 *Based.*
W station but Amtrak should allow railfans to record
Where's the Long Island Railroad
At 21:32.
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train spark 3:49
mostly NJT ):
New York penn might not be pretty but it gets the job done
amtrak cool
lol
Why dose american trains have a ringing nosie.
It's a warning bell for when the train is doing something, i.e departure/arriving.
It's a bell
3:22 is an announcement I never want to hear again
NJ Transet is not Northeast corridor
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only one train line from nj transit is on the nec
@@frenchchicken2799 No. The Raritan Valley line and The Coast Line are also on the NEC.
@@trainsnstufff RVL only has Newark Penn that's it, its technically not on the NEC as it diverts off of it, and ye NJCL is somewhat on the NEC but diverts off of it too. so thats why i dont say its on the NEC
@@frenchchicken2799 It does count. RVL runs through NWK and branches off. IT counts if it runs with the NEC no matter the distance.
I know this place inside out smh
The announcement is so fascist and medical tiranny. Against federal law? No, it's against the free will choice of the people and body integrity.
lol _that's_ the hill you're going to die on? masks? Alright DR. Rah Rah Patriot.
on njtrains it is a federal law
Yea i wont gonna read your bullshit anti mask opinion
Oh yea its 2022 by the time this video uploaded so yeah.. covid is still a thing
And keep crying about it pro plague