Did TRT from 55 yrs old to 57..Felt amazing. Stopped at 58 and slowly declined to feeling like crap. Got back on at 59, now 60. Hit the gym 3 X per week and walk 5 miles per day. I have lost 25 lbs and feel fantastic! Blood work excellent. Diet and exercise is a must with TRT. Libido like in my 20’s. Would recommend to any man over 55. Life is great!
The risk to reward argument is valid. But if you're 80 years old I feel like I'd happily take on risks if it meant I would regain strength and mobility. Thereby also reducing risk of falls. Look at how many elderly die from that
I figure by 80 there's not a lot that steroids can do that would make things any worse. If anybody should be on them for medical reasons, it should be an octogenarian.
@@BigRed999 I am on 200mg a week, I split the dosage up, 100mg Mon and the other 100mg Thursday. My free test is around 920, I started with 100mg a week for about a month I felt a little better but not by much then went to 150mg a week and then 200mg and felt my best.
Im 62 yrs old , been taking Testosterone for the better part of 40 yrs. As i got older i took less to the point of 200mg every 2 weeks. My health went down hill!! Blood pressure elevated, fluid retention in my lower limbs, couldn't breath. I went several years battling this. Started taking 200 mg a week and things started going back the other way. But im still having pain in my joints so i went up to 400mg a week and and ready for this 100 mg of deca! Wow!!! My blood work is perfect , my Blood pressure is perfect , my physical appearance is changing completely and my shoulders dont hurt@ I feel like a new man again!! " ALL OVER "
Muscle growth is possible at any age. Old People are just too quick with the TRT/gear fix instead of just getting to gym. Getting old aint for wimps. So start lifting hard and heavy. Heck, I'm a natty virile 67 and I'm stronger than I've ever been.
Age 53. Prescription of 200mg/week. 3 years. Daily pre-coffee Blood pressure testing averages 118/229 over 64-68. Estradiol is great. On the same Rosuvastatin dosage I was on before and cholesterol readings are well within normal. Total test around 1115 (slightly high), and free test of 19. By Dexa scans I’ve gone from 42% body fat down to 21% just updated in September. My A1C has gone from full on type 2 diabetic 7.7 down to 5.2. On Oct 7th on vacation I had a large fried seafood platter with shrimp in some rich butter cream sauce over rice and a chocolate cheesecake for desert. 1 hour later blood sugar was 119. I can walk up a set of stairs without being winded. I am looking much better feeling much better. My mind is clearer, my memory is sharper. I can do a whole work day without being exhausted by lunch. Before my Testosterone dose I was just alive. Now I’m living life. Strongly disagree with the premise of this vid.
I've met at least 30 guys in there 70s over the years. Every one on testosterone. They all looked great. And they had good blood work. I'm definitely going to take steroids when I'm old.
I think I've said this before, but what is up with your volume levels in these videos? The intro is ridiculously loud compared to all other youtube videos.
Isn't cardiovascular disease a long term process though? If the elderly patient is 70yrs old and has no other risk factors for CV disease, wouldn't they have to be on anabolics for a long time to be at risk for CV complications?
@@mrofnocnon the idea that old people need way more testosterone is also behind the times. Many of the people touting "trt" are taking too much solely for the anabolic effect not because they are hypo gonadal. Modulating your testosterone within the normal range does little to nothing for you. Clinically low testosterone actually affects a small percentage (
Yes, I have been on trt for the past 12 years it has made my life so much more enjoyable. I can still do things physically like in my 30's, the recovery is the best part. Having muscle is one of the most important things when you age, it will prolong life and quality of your life.57 years old and feeling like 40!
Always fun to hear young people talk about if old people should take roids. Like when docs are all super experts on a medicine they have never ever taken themselves. When you get old enough you learn to see past bullshit like that cause then your knowledge is based on first hand experience. Anti aging has developed in some countries but many lack behind.
Honestly I stopped taking what these two said seriously when at the very beginning of the video there was arrogant laughing at the question. If these dudes really are physicians I feel sorry for anyone who sees them. Im 66, been on TRT for over 8 years. Life changer for me.
Western doctors have made it clear that normal age related decline isnt a good enough reason to prescribe men with testosterone because of the increased risk of cardio vascular disease from changes in certain blood markers. Id say that fit and active older-men would make the pharmaceutical companies less money than the fat, diabetic, couch-locked masses
If I was 90+ years old and my muscles were wasted I'd take the risk anyway because at that point because I'd have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Your calculus doesn't apply the same way it applies to younger demographics in my opinion.
hi,i'm 50 but I don't want to do TRT I don't want to be a slave to the syringe for life, so is 2 cycles a year advisable at my age?Or is it dangerous ?
I am 76 and have been working out since 14. Never did roids until low dose TRT a couple of years ago. I did try anavar several years ago and was amazed by it for the 2 months I was on it. I have been reading that it helps prevent sarcopenia and helps slow down osteoarthritis. Is it possible to get a prescription for it I wonder?
I am 50. I go to a men’s clinic that is willing to prescribe Deca-Durobolin (sp?) for a 10 week cycle. I am on test now and needed it badly. I get my regular blood draw this week and the following week I may start that cycle if my bloodwork is good. It’s been good for over a year now so I’m thinking it will be a go for me.
Absolutely. In fact, seniors are the group that would derive the greatest health benefit from them. They reverse the signs of aging, and muscle loss is among the primary symptoms. Remember, steroid were created to mitigate muscle wasting diseases, and there's no greater muscle wasting disease than aging. As for the risk, cardiovascular disease is already the #1 cause of death. So its not as if being prescribed will steroid will lower that number. As you mentioned, they will likely die of that regardless. Regardless of the doses given, you're not going to get big muscles unless you workout and diet. So we're taking 20% of the population even if the doses were high.
I've certainly been swayed by vocal members of the fitness UA-cam community into deciding that, when I'm older and my test production isn't up to snuff, I'll consult my doctor about prescription test. I'll definitely take a look at the Testosterone Trials and keep an eye on the research, though. I've hopefully got a good twenty plus years before that's relevant.
The big downside, IMO, is that you can't stop taking it once you start. Do I want to be a jacked 80 year old, having to pin twice a week until I die? Having to worry about the logistics of getting, using, and traveling with syringes and controlled materials? Seems like an awful lot of trouble, but I guess if good diet and exercise aren't enough to maintain testosterone levels in the normal range, it might be worth it...
@@ssholum Oh yeah, it certainly has its downsides. I think that it really comes down to what the individual is willing to put up with and what their doctor is agreeable to. It's definitively not something to begin lightly.
There's a clinical dose that's just enough to relieve the symptoms of low test, Then there's an amount to optimize your health. But that's a different argument altogether.
You should not comment on what is obvious you don't know very much. These two guys give their opinions as if they were old sharing knowledge of the 1950's. But wait, if they were that all they both be using anabolic steroids.
@@ironkinggaming_ I am 5' 9" 235 pounds naturally. 52" chest 20" arms and around a 10 inch drop from chest to waist around the naval. I'd like to cut a little more, but I'm know I'm getting old and weak compared to what I use to be. I was a machine in the military, not as solid as I use to be. I'll admit
@@joeyholthusen6495 Shrinking a lot within a year? You are not training properly (or maybe not training at all) then. Jesus christ, you are in your 40's, not 70's, but keep making excuses. You're probably the type that thinks he will need a wheelchair by the time he's 50.
Dude, I’m 40 and my lower back aches I. The morning. I have arthritis in my knees. Please just let me move around comfortably in my golden years. Let me pump iron at a level that that’s 80% of where I am now. Don’t let me be be of those guys that walks with a cane everywhere and has trouble going up a stair case. I’d rather be euthanized than live like that for my final years.
I think they are talking only about taking supra physiological amounts of testosterone, but not TRT levels. TRT levels would only be beneficial, provided you compensate for side effects like Dutasteride for the prostate and Statins/Niacin to reduce lipid levels.
Darn. The title pulled me in, but the content was WEAK. I know you guys can do better. I mean, at least acknowledge all the non-standard evidence that it *might* work -- the reason it is a potentially attractive idea, in the first place, in other words. If there are only dumb studies on it, why is that? Are we lay folk missing something? Is there a good biomedical reason that this on the surface plausible idea might be wrong? This topic seems so entirely in your guys' wheelhouse that the "there haven't been any good studies so we can't say anything" answer was really disappointing. We know sarcopenia is problematic. We know that our ability to build muscle diminishes with age. Why wouldn't a muscle-building agent have potential medical application? What is the counter-argument? Are there any case studies? Anecdotal evidence? Gym wisdom? What studies would you like to see and why aren't they being done? There are plenty of interesting angles on this topic. Unfortunately, none of them are discussed, here...
At about 2:55, Dr. Baraki says, "I want good evidence before I decide to give somebody a medication that has known risks and unknown benefits". This is, to me, the position that you want someone in their position to take. You can play games all day long with what "might" work, but that's not the model they're working from.
There aren't only "dumb studies" on it, but rather the existing evidence- much of which is relatively elegant and well-formulated- does not support a clear benefit relative to the risk in most situations. On the other hand, there's good evidence for use in situations like hypogonadism, for example. You'll note we didn't actually say "there haven't been any good studies so we can't say anything", so I'm not sure why you put that in quotes.
@@bigbrooklynI agree. Is it possible that it always has to be a "new" drug that they can patent and will be covered by insurance and Medicare. I imagine they're quite happy with their current money extraction system.
I’m 65 years old, been on steroids for 20 years. I’m a golden god….you can have the spitting up green jello years. I want to live a vigorous life…..quality over quantity!
Define "work". If resistance training confers the health benefits the elderly need, and exogenous testosterone or other substances don't provide significant health benefits, why on earth should the elderly use them? I mean, by the time you're old you should have figured out the pointlessness of merely being jacked for the sake of looking jacked.
When I die at a 105 I want to be too jacked to fit in a normal casket. /s
😆😅🤣
Mortuaries are burning down from obese in the cremator.
Yippee
Was going to put grandad on tren before I saw this
Lol
Same
Watch this ( ua-cam.com/video/13I3BvVh4G8/v-deo.html )
Bro dont listen to this shit...your grandad and grandma will thank you.
Get em to a endocrinologist. Get proper hormone therapy. Still roids, but safe.
Did TRT from 55 yrs old to 57..Felt amazing. Stopped at 58 and slowly declined to feeling like crap. Got back on at 59, now 60. Hit the gym 3 X per week and walk 5 miles per day. I have lost 25 lbs and feel fantastic! Blood work excellent. Diet and exercise is a must with TRT. Libido like in my 20’s. Would recommend to any man over 55. Life is great!
How much were you taking? Online TRT clinics give 200mg a week that gives you way more than what's natural for a man.
The risk to reward argument is valid. But if you're 80 years old I feel like I'd happily take on risks if it meant I would regain strength and mobility. Thereby also reducing risk of falls. Look at how many elderly die from that
Stronger bones and muscles.. less depression....I'd sat it's a win win
Correct
I figure by 80 there's not a lot that steroids can do that would make things any worse. If anybody should be on them for medical reasons, it should be an octogenarian.
73 and been doing cycles since I was 50. Doing it responsibly is not a problem.
What’s your protocol brother? Thanks
I'd like to know more of your results and routine. You open to PM?
How are looking at 73 I seriously want to know because I'm 54 and I still use them
@@BostonMike68 No answer in almost a year. Maybe he got VaXXed.
@@ShanntahnPininchula I guess it didn't work out to good for him
Before watching the video, the answer better be "yes" 😂😂
We need a lot more people tuning-in on these
Granavar
Decade Durabolin
This guy is just full of sht. They dont deal with old people. This is a great question. Compared to what?
Elderdrol
I am 54 and been on TRT for 10 months and feel fantastic. I don't think I ever want to be off it .
Ditto
what is your dosage?
@@BigRed999 I am on 200mg a week, I split the dosage up, 100mg Mon and the other 100mg Thursday. My free test is around 920, I started with 100mg a week for about a month I felt a little better but not by much then went to 150mg a week and then 200mg and felt my best.
@@quantumfx2677Ik you prob use it for casual use but I gotta ask ,what are your prs?
Why are you taking it?
But what if they’re old AND pumping iron AND doing the GOMAD? Can they still get jacked with copious amounts of gear?
Are they doin fhavs
soo, am 35 ,pumping,looking for better gains and the kind of pump I had in my 20's, I have 0 health issues and no heart issues
Sry but no one is gonna stop me from pouring tren in the water to turn the friggin frogs jackeeeed !!!
Im 62 yrs old , been taking Testosterone for the better part of 40 yrs. As i got older i took less to the point of 200mg every 2 weeks.
My health went down hill!!
Blood pressure elevated, fluid retention in my lower limbs, couldn't breath.
I went several years battling this. Started taking 200 mg a week and things started going back the other way.
But im still having pain in my joints so i went up to 400mg a week and and ready for this 100 mg of deca!
Wow!!! My blood work is perfect , my Blood pressure is perfect , my physical appearance is changing completely and my shoulders dont hurt@
I feel like a new man again!!
" ALL OVER "
As a disabled Veteran, I like to enjoy my last days while I'm here.
Its less about longevity and more about quality of life.
Muscle growth is possible at any age. Old People are just too quick with the TRT/gear fix instead of just getting to gym. Getting old aint for wimps. So start lifting hard and heavy.
Heck, I'm a natty virile 67 and I'm stronger than I've ever been.
You really don't need a medical degree to know that.
Age 53. Prescription of 200mg/week. 3 years. Daily pre-coffee Blood pressure testing averages 118/229 over 64-68. Estradiol is great. On the same Rosuvastatin dosage I was on before and cholesterol readings are well within normal. Total test around 1115 (slightly high), and free test of 19. By Dexa scans I’ve gone from 42% body fat down to 21% just updated in September. My A1C has gone from full on type 2 diabetic 7.7 down to 5.2. On Oct 7th on vacation I had a large fried seafood platter with shrimp in some rich butter cream sauce over rice and a chocolate cheesecake for desert. 1 hour later blood sugar was 119. I can walk up a set of stairs without being winded. I am looking much better feeling much better. My mind is clearer, my memory is sharper. I can do a whole work day without being exhausted by lunch. Before my Testosterone dose I was just alive. Now I’m living life. Strongly disagree with the premise of this vid.
I've met at least 30 guys in there 70s over the years. Every one on testosterone. They all looked great. And they had good blood work. I'm definitely going to take steroids when I'm old.
Yep, better that then shark collagen and other BS many doctors worldwide suggest. And if only GH is not that expensive.
Perhaps they looked great because they lifted weights like BBM suggests, rather than being on test exclusively.
Can confirm. Am 80, feel great! ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
@@lastsonofkrypton3918 at 80 u still diddling the misses...im curious..does the junk work at 80
@@delmarsimpson8117 yes, and ima give you a tip that will help your condition right now, son: Cialis. Enjoy.
I think I've said this before, but what is up with your volume levels in these videos? The intro is ridiculously loud compared to all other youtube videos.
Isn't cardiovascular disease a long term process though? If the elderly patient is 70yrs old and has no other risk factors for CV disease, wouldn't they have to be on anabolics for a long time to be at risk for CV complications?
Being old is a risk factor. One of the non modifiable ones.
Actually testosterone has recently been proven to CV protective. These two guys are behind the times.
@@mrofnocnon the idea that old people need way more testosterone is also behind the times. Many of the people touting "trt" are taking too much solely for the anabolic effect not because they are hypo gonadal. Modulating your testosterone within the normal range does little to nothing for you. Clinically low testosterone actually affects a small percentage (
@@mrofnocnonStill, even research can be proven false. My advice is to just stay natty until your passing. It's the way we're meant to live.
Nobody knows.
work hard on full head transplant. Build robot body underneath. Yeah baby. Robot arm lift 1000 kg. Bicep curl 500 kg dumbbell. Run fast. All good.
Yes, I have been on trt for the past 12 years it has made my life so much more enjoyable. I can still do things physically like in my 30's, the recovery is the best part. Having muscle is one of the most important things when you age, it will prolong life and quality of your life.57 years old and feeling like 40!
Good subject keep up doctors 🥼
The BBM guys have started shilling for big dunkin'
For the algorithm. Also, sound volume on the intro is just fine.
Commenting for the algorithm, keep up the great work!
So steroids are GOOD for you until you become elderly?
Always fun to hear young people talk about if old people should take roids. Like when docs are all super experts on a medicine they have never ever taken themselves. When you get old enough you learn to see past bullshit like that cause then your knowledge is based on first hand experience. Anti aging has developed in some countries but many lack behind.
Honestly I stopped taking what these two said seriously when at the very beginning of the video there was arrogant laughing at the question. If these dudes really are physicians I feel sorry for anyone who sees them. Im 66, been on TRT for over 8 years. Life changer for me.
I was thinking the same thing. Just let the individual make that choice. Its their body.
What about trt or hrt? Do the benefits outweight the downsides? Are there any significant downsides?
They answered that in detail before
ua-cam.com/video/YDuMGoK-1JA/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/C8De3Eww3Bc/v-deo.html
Western doctors have made it clear that normal age related decline isnt a good enough reason to prescribe men with testosterone because of the increased risk of cardio vascular disease from changes in certain blood markers.
Id say that fit and active older-men would make the pharmaceutical companies less money than the fat, diabetic, couch-locked masses
@Whip Lash WRONG; Everybody needs testosterone; in the correct ratio to other hormones.
@@nakefatty9167 good point. 👍
Frequent erections is one. Lol.
If I was 90+ years old and my muscles were wasted I'd take the risk anyway because at that point because I'd have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Your calculus doesn't apply the same way it applies to younger demographics in my opinion.
If I was 90+ years old, I would look into euthanasia. Nothing is gonna save you at that point.
hi,i'm 50 but I don't want to do TRT I don't want to be a slave to the syringe for life, so is 2 cycles a year advisable at my age?Or is it dangerous ?
If your TRT is low then you would need to be on it indefinitely. If you only had two cycles a year your T will crash when not taking the TRT.
You have to eat every day don't you? Your perspective is messed up.
I am 76 and have been working out since 14. Never did roids until low dose TRT a couple of years ago. I did try anavar several years ago and was amazed by it for the 2 months I was on it. I have been reading that it helps prevent sarcopenia and helps slow down osteoarthritis. Is it possible to get a prescription for it I wonder?
I am 50. I go to a men’s clinic that is willing to prescribe Deca-Durobolin (sp?) for a 10 week cycle. I am on test now and needed it badly. I get my regular blood draw this week and the following week I may start that cycle if my bloodwork is good. It’s been good for over a year now so I’m thinking it will be a go for me.
You could move to a freer country like Mexico, and just buy it over the counter, or order it online.
Absolutely. In fact, seniors are the group that would derive the greatest health benefit from them. They reverse the signs of aging, and muscle loss is among the primary symptoms. Remember, steroid were created to mitigate muscle wasting diseases, and there's no greater muscle wasting disease than aging.
As for the risk, cardiovascular disease is already the #1 cause of death. So its not as if being prescribed will steroid will lower that number. As you mentioned, they will likely die of that regardless. Regardless of the doses given, you're not going to get big muscles unless you workout and diet. So we're taking 20% of the population even if the doses were high.
Wow research really helps...
What’s old?
65 is considered the line for elderly in the U.S.
@@JackgarPrime my question was more rhetorical
30
In terms if hormons i would say mid 30s to 40s
I've certainly been swayed by vocal members of the fitness UA-cam community into deciding that, when I'm older and my test production isn't up to snuff, I'll consult my doctor about prescription test. I'll definitely take a look at the Testosterone Trials and keep an eye on the research, though. I've hopefully got a good twenty plus years before that's relevant.
The big downside, IMO, is that you can't stop taking it once you start. Do I want to be a jacked 80 year old, having to pin twice a week until I die? Having to worry about the logistics of getting, using, and traveling with syringes and controlled materials? Seems like an awful lot of trouble, but I guess if good diet and exercise aren't enough to maintain testosterone levels in the normal range, it might be worth it...
@@ssholum Oh yeah, it certainly has its downsides. I think that it really comes down to what the individual is willing to put up with and what their doctor is agreeable to. It's definitively not something to begin lightly.
Downsides:
On medication the rest of your life
Elevated risk of cardiovascular disease and cancer among other things
Not that cheap
Have you watched BBM testosterone vids? Some good stuff.
@@Tavviferret Are they recent? If not then I'm sure I have, but it hasn't been since they posted them. If they're recent I might have missed them.
What do you docs think about HRT for menopausal women?
They're talking low low doses here....just enough to slightly raise testosterone...they would do better taking a bit more than what the doc prescribes
There's a clinical dose that's just enough to relieve the symptoms of low test, Then there's an amount to optimize your health. But that's a different argument altogether.
You should not comment on what is obvious you don't know very much. These two guys give their opinions as if they were old sharing knowledge of the 1950's. But wait, if they were that all they both be using anabolic steroids.
Inconclusive af.
I'm willing to try when i turn 60 I'm just 46 now i have 14 years to go. My total cholesterol both numbers is 141 and blood pressure is usually 118/68
How is muscle building for you in your 40s and strength
@@ironkinggaming_ I am 5' 9" 235 pounds naturally. 52" chest 20" arms and around a 10 inch drop from chest to waist around the naval. I'd like to cut a little more, but I'm know I'm getting old and weak compared to what I use to be. I was a machine in the military, not as solid as I use to be. I'll admit
I’m 47 just started and loving taking steroids I couldn’t recommend it more…
@@AnnhilateTheNihilist I've lost size from my old measurements. Shrinking it seems
@@joeyholthusen6495 Shrinking a lot within a year? You are not training properly (or maybe not training at all) then. Jesus christ, you are in your 40's, not 70's, but keep making excuses. You're probably the type that thinks he will need a wheelchair by the time he's 50.
Dude, I’m 40 and my lower back aches I. The morning. I have arthritis in my knees. Please just let me move around comfortably in my golden years. Let me pump iron at a level that that’s 80% of where I am now. Don’t let me be be of those guys that walks with a cane everywhere and has trouble going up a stair case. I’d rather be euthanized than live like that for my final years.
I think they are talking only about taking supra physiological amounts of testosterone, but not TRT levels. TRT levels would only be beneficial, provided you compensate for side effects like Dutasteride for the prostate and Statins/Niacin to reduce lipid levels.
I don't think so. Superphsioligical goes to building far more muscle that the body can maintain naturally.
So what's the date on stem cell therapy?
I do not want to go peacefully into the long good night
same
Three answers:
1: Hell
2: Yeah
3: Brother!
"We need more evidence to know if steroids work on elderly people".
Take steroids like candies and get swol.
You mean clinical data? They work on anyone, we already know that.
If not for elders it's seems that is very benefitial for you to take steroids in many different ways. :)
How can you know how older people feel when you have never been old .? Guess that's how you feel some 70yr Olds are stronger than your age
Myostatin Suppressant and "Neanderthal Bone" gene therapies. Why do these not exist already???
YK11
How about doing some research.
If the Barakis and Feigenbaums of this world can share dunkin donuts together there is hope for us too in Palestine and Israel.
I think lack of gains is the true problem in the region
Darn. The title pulled me in, but the content was WEAK. I know you guys can do better. I mean, at least acknowledge all the non-standard evidence that it *might* work -- the reason it is a potentially attractive idea, in the first place, in other words. If there are only dumb studies on it, why is that? Are we lay folk missing something? Is there a good biomedical reason that this on the surface plausible idea might be wrong? This topic seems so entirely in your guys' wheelhouse that the "there haven't been any good studies so we can't say anything" answer was really disappointing. We know sarcopenia is problematic. We know that our ability to build muscle diminishes with age. Why wouldn't a muscle-building agent have potential medical application? What is the counter-argument? Are there any case studies? Anecdotal evidence? Gym wisdom? What studies would you like to see and why aren't they being done? There are plenty of interesting angles on this topic. Unfortunately, none of them are discussed, here...
At about 2:55, Dr. Baraki says, "I want good evidence before I decide to give somebody a medication that has known risks and unknown benefits". This is, to me, the position that you want someone in their position to take.
You can play games all day long with what "might" work, but that's not the model they're working from.
There aren't only "dumb studies" on it, but rather the existing evidence- much of which is relatively elegant and well-formulated- does not support a clear benefit relative to the risk in most situations. On the other hand, there's good evidence for use in situations like hypogonadism, for example. You'll note we didn't actually say "there haven't been any good studies so we can't say anything", so I'm not sure why you put that in quotes.
We demonize Test and its benefits but will take every drug a doctor will prescribe with worse side effects
@@bigbrooklynI agree. Is it possible that it always has to be a "new" drug that they can patent and will be covered by insurance and Medicare. I imagine they're quite happy with their current money extraction system.
@@jaym7369 Co vid has taught us how corrupt the medical society is... Too much money ti be made
What about elderly GAINZZZzz, bro?!
*Dr Bro
what about testosterone replacement therapy?????
Jibberish. So does anavar go in her coffee or not?
Yes we should
There is no data in supoort of trt treatments? Really?
That is not what was said. We have two prior podcasts / videos on TRT, which is - different topic than prescribing anabolics.
@@tzqrr so trt is fine?
@@Js-dd2ul As stated above: we have two podcasts on the topic that are freely available for you.
Very interesting
I’m 65 years old, been on steroids for 20 years. I’m a golden god….you can have the spitting up green jello years. I want to live a vigorous life…..quality over quantity!
Oh, and I’m a grandfather on tren😎
Interview Milos Sarcev on this
Nah.
Yes goddam it😡
Age 64 low testosterone
Unless you are happy being a pencil neck you will take TRT when you are old. Why do you so many Geezers take TRT if it didn't work?🏋️♂️🏊♂️🏃♂️
Define "work". If resistance training confers the health benefits the elderly need, and exogenous testosterone or other substances don't provide significant health benefits, why on earth should the elderly use them? I mean, by the time you're old you should have figured out the pointlessness of merely being jacked for the sake of looking jacked.
Do a lot of geezers take TRT? I doubt there are many 90 year old dudes who use anabolics. They wouldn’t live that long.
These are the same guys that will prescribe statins at the drop of a hat. Get real.
Fuck statins.