I remember the first time I rode the gryphon from IF to SW . I don't think I'll ever be able to replicate that in a game ever again, looking down at the other zones, seeing a few skull enemies ..wondering if I'll ever make it to that zone ...good times
"Troll shamans would have basically been raid bosses" But all that time.... there he was. Just standing there. Regenerating f̶i̶v̶e̶ TEN, health, per second. I glared at the Troll. The Troll glared back at me. Silence flooded the world. "And there's nothing you can do about it," the Troll whispered.
They take a while, but they're totally worth it since I enjoy editing quite a bit...even moreso when I get positive feedback like yours. Thanks for watching!
@@madseasonshow Trust me, not everyone posts a comment but definitely, all of your viewers absolutely love your video's and are waiting eagerly for another upload. The combination of your voice/editing/music choice/content is just amazing. Never came across video's that were nicer to listen to and look at than yours. Never stop uploading video's, please!
You see, back in vanilla the "endgame" wasn't the most important thing. The grind to reach level 60 was a great experience by itself. It was a legitimate part of the game, just as important as the endgame.
AlexeiVoronin totally agree man. For me vanilla is more of a journey spent with my friends to try out new things, get new gears and explore new place rather then hitting the endgame. Those little nostalgic moments along the way are such a treasure for me. Tbh I didn’t even know the “endgame” part until tbc is about to come. After hitting 60 I was just wondering around helping new players and guide them in case they got lost. It was a more pure and enjoyable experience for me.
This. It's why I can't stand playing modern wow. There's no "world" in world of warcraft anymore when 99% of the content is a loot slide into the current patch with heirlooms, queues and "catch up" dungeons making said content meaningless. They designed the game to revolve entirely around the short term, then wonder why they're losing subs in the long term.
@@ExplosionRadius it's not a mmorpg anymore. It's a mmo hack n slash with a cash shop and a paid way to get to end game. I thought it was narrative that had mostly ruined retail. Sin e classic I've realized the entirety of retail is trash. It died after wotlk. Something was lost after that.....
I was a casual-hardcore gamer in vanilla, meaning I was a bit slower to lvl to 60 than most of my guildies with hardcore tendencies... I was a warlock. they needed warlocks in early lvl 60 raids and because warlock was a weak class in the first months of the game not many warlocks were rolled. so my guild waited WEEKS upon WEEKS for me to finally make it to lvl 60.... imagine that in modern times.. . Somehow, despite being rather slow, I was still among the first 10 warlocks on the server to make it to lvl 60. And then I needed another 3 weeks to get my Onyxia attunement done.... meanwhile they had already disenchanted half a dozen warlock epic pieces because there was nobody to loot them.. (the only other warlock in the guild already had everything because he got 100% of the warlock loot. Finally I was able to join them for MC and Ony.... I stayed with that guild for 2 years all the way to C'thun and Naxx... It was amazing, we were amateurs compared to modern raiders, but we kept going till TBC... We had those legendary all night wipe fests.... guild drama, splitting up and merging.... We never made it to end boss naxx, but we had a blast and till today it was the best gaming experience of my life . at some patch warlocks got really powerful
MadSeason your vidoes are so good. You have the perfect voice of telling stories and this episode is giving me extra nostalgic feeling! Cant wait for classic and hope that I will run into you one day.
MadseasonShow, thank you so much for all these excellent videos. You are doing the community a great service by continuing to make these awesome vids. Keep the content coming because we all need more things to watch and keep occupied until classic launch! 100% sir!
MadSeason thank you for your videos man. I’ve played WoW for 10 years now and it’s really great to listen and know that there’s people out there that still appreciate the old game as much as i do. I hope you truly enjoy Classic when it comes out and maybe I’ll see you out in the world! Have a good one brother
Mad season, I’ve seen and love all your videos, they’re just incredible. Very informative, relaxing, and you truly know how to both inform those who are new and interested, and play on us old gamers nostalgia. One of my favorite things is that, as if the wow nostalgia isn’t enough, you throw the Zelda music in there and it really just brings me back to a really positive, enjoyable time hehe. Don’t ever stop making videos. I don’t even care if they’re not about wow anymore even though vanilla was and is my favorite game ever made. Literally any game you become knowledgeable about will be worth watching videos created by you on.
Thanks for the kind words, Mike! I have wanted to talk about other games from my past(OoT, the old Final Fantasies, Elder Scrolls, etc.), but time has always been an issue for me. It would be a "one or the other" type of situation, and I still have a lot more to say about WoW so I have no plans on stopping soon. One day I'd like to branch out a bit more, and it's nice to know I have people like you who would join me! Thanks for watching and have a good weekend.
Never played wow and yet I recently started watching a lot of your videos. Your voice is amazing and the structure of the videos keep my interest. Thanks!
On my server getting rid of 10 man raids for all the 5 man dungeons was actually a huge deal. It wasn't uncommon for people to still have all their quests when the change happened. Paladins had huge issues trying to get their epic mount because nobody wanted to do those runs 5 man.
On my EU server it was pretty common to do class raids to sholo and strath where you only brought 1 per class. It was the easiest way to grind tier 0 back in the day
Great video as always! I do want to point out that for a long time flight paths weren't connected. To go from one end of the continent to the other, you had to take a flight to the next flightmaster, then look at their map and buy the next leg of the journey. This was exacerbated by some flight points near each other not actually connected, so upon landing you'd see you can't get to where you wanted to end up, you had to fly somewhere else first and then there.
6:14 - while that entrance to Naxxramas never was used, it WAS possible to get to in the live game eventually. During MoP, I found ways of glitching under/behind Stratholme (so, uninstanced version), and you could indeed go through that tunnel where what you're showing in the video is in fact there in the open world.
I miss Beta/Vanilla leveling so much, was so awesome playing all day and like at best you gained 2 levels. Every level was a big deal, every new piece of gear was wicked cool!
Dear MadSeasonShow, Please make more content because I am dying of boredom. Your content is amazing. I spend a lot of time now dreaming of the classic release and these videos just make that wait a little more bearable. I can't wait to jump back into the World of Warcraft and set off on an epic journey, making friends, and enemies. Whether Alliance or Horde, we all share the World of Warcraft together. The day classic comes, is the day we unite as players. P.S FOR THE HORDE!
@6:16 the second i heard that piano tune i knew it was chrono trigger...god you know its a fav video game when you can tell the music at the drop of the beat lol i love your song choices though.
Around 11:25, you say that the IF-SW tram was a godsend due to the cost savings on travel it enabled. While that may have been true for the most penny-pinching of adventurers, the main advantage of the tram was the MUCH faster speed compared to the slow griffins at the time, a point you mention later in the video. Besides, this particular flight path was quite cheap. The griffin was good for the view, and/or if it was time to make some dinner anyway.
I used to love quests for keys. I know it’s not vanilla, but Karazhan questline was one of my favorites, and like you I would let people in. What greater reward is there, than being able to discover a whole new area...
I played on Windrunner for all of classic. On my server it was standard to run all the level 50+ dungeons as 10 mans in PuGs. It wasn't until patch 1.10 that I ran any of them as 5 mans. Good memories lol
In early vanilla everything was done 10 man for 60 man dungeons, and around DM it changed to 5 man mostly. Scholo was especially bad with all the bugs like ghoul poison death damage having an extra zero in it that insta killed people. LBRS was also tuned for 5 people, the ring parts wouldn't drop if you were in a raid during live. So usually you'd 10 man it, and have to drop group to loot the body to check for ring gems.The ring also summoned Vael if you right clicked it during the Arena fight, he'd pop in and help you for a little while.
I love your videos... especially the nostalgic vanilla videos... you somehow capture the magic of vanilla and express it perfectly; to the extent that I literally recall and see myself playing 15 years ago as you go on (I'm sure your syory telling voice has something to do with it). 😆😆 Thanks
It is so weird that you used Secret of the Forest from Chrono Trigger. Just finished re-playing it and I've been listening to that song on repeat this week, and this is the SECOND youtube video that I've heard it in since!! Eerie.
The slow journey to leveling, getting gear, and no group/raid finder are what made old wow special for me. I felt more attached to my toons.. The social aspect was so much more engaging than it is now
Please don't use that amazing WoW music. That Ashenvale/Moonglade soundtrack made me rewind a lot, because it's so mesmerizing and couldn't focus on you talking :) Great content as usual! Keep it up!
Got to ashenvale yesterday. Just stood there for a min enjoying how different it is to the places I've been so far. Proper brought me back to finding stuff back in the days when I was 13 lol
I remember when I played some random rpg's when I was 10 yrs old, and to see someone at max level, felt like an achievement. A thing that used to be a part of mmropgs is the fact that not everyone had a max level char, and when u saw a player that has max level you would ask him about his adventures and how to get that powerful. I miss those days, when level was a huge part of the game.
i recall darkshore to silithus taking 35 minutes until sillithus was connected to feralas. it would take 45 minutes just to get from ironforge to diremaul. and that was after flight path linking. to ferelas took around 25 minutes. the biggest problem the alliance had was teh lack of connection cross continent. people would hang around in iron forge, because it was central for the eastern kingdoms, but if you wanted to go to sillithus you had to fly to either bootybay or wetlands, and take a boat over. or take a portal from a mage. whether you went, ironforge-wetlands-abberdine, or to bootybay, you had to run across a zone to get onto the boat, and then personally disembark and run to the flight master. this was a pain because so much of the transit time required manual input. you couldn't just fly to the boat, nor was teh flight master on the docks. you could shave a few minutes by going to booty bay instead, but it was basicalyl horde controled and there was faction based glitchiness. sometimes someone could attack you and you would get flagged as hostile by the guards, and have to die 7 times to get on the boat. engineers had portals to the neutral cities, but weren't able to share them. it honestly was horde favortism. the blimps had much better coverage. and even when the seccond ship got added, it took players to theramore, not rutherran (eventually a 25 minute reduction) or gadgetzen (4 minute time reduction from theramore). the rest of this is worldbuilding because i care. not directly relevant to the video though. and the tram shouldn't have gone from ironforge to stormwind because there was no point to go to stormwind, and it was less than 1s cost. it should have connected to the bael modan (dwarf outposts in barrens), grimbatol (wetlands, and the location should be destroyed), and either thandor span or dun garok in hillsbrad foothills. bael modan might have been a better tram location if instead of being in the hills near theramore, it was flipped to be on the opposite side of the barrens, then it could penetrate into ferelas and thousand needles. that would ballance it to "you may have to use a boat/tram/blimp/ and one flight path" the blimps had two locations on one map, and a central location on the other, and you could jump off the blimp anywhere along the way; if you died you would only get a 5 minute penalty at the spirit healer. the ships had a top and central location on one, and a central on the other; and the tram was basically nothing. the ships couldn't really be jumped off to allow fast transit. you could shave time lost, but you couldn't avoid a run down darkshore; meanwhile a zeplin to TB would save a few minutes from a run down barrens, and once you could fly out of TB most of kalimdor opened up. undercity-ogrimar-thunderbluff--bootybay. undercity was a zepplin from ogrimmar, and close to half of the highlevel easter kingdoms stuff, "bootybay" (gromgol) was close to the other half. darnassus wasn't close to anything. stormwind was 10 secconds closer to BRM, and minutes farther from strat and scholo. thereamore was close to onyxia, but not of other value. ironforge was optimally placed for eastern kingdom's dungeoning, but was a flight and a boat and another always long flight from anything else. southshore was appropriate for a boat, but didn't have one. so was the troll fishing village in hinterlands. everlook was close to a place for consumables. it was sorta meh for both factions, but could have worked as a shared hub if the goblin cities had been networked via tram. shifting it to have a dock would have been awkward but okay. gadgetzen was sorta close to Anquiraj. it is like a 5 minute flight. bootybay was close to swamp of sorrows, blasted lands, and acceptably far from BRM. the last map problem i had was that sillithus was just not connected to anything. having a break in teh mountains with a beach would allow for a seccond boat from ferelas to get down to sillithus. put neutral cenarian hold or goblin npcs on board and it is good and fair for both factions hell put both and allow them to fight as you travel. alternatively, they could have had the sillithus bug caves connect to the ferelas ones, or an item and entity like BWL which would allow a port to the gong in sillithus from the ferelas festering hole. even connecting the ungorrow camp cave system to ferelas would have droped 10 minutes of alliance travel time. teh last option, which would have been teh best, would be to have the goblin cities connected somehow. instead of dwarves having the tram, the goblins could have it and the 'bank' locations could be tram openings. thus alliance get ships, horde get blimps, and both get tram access. sure the bootybay to rachet ship would have to replaced but that isn't bad or much, rachet still has a bank which looks like a subway terminal. swaping the two would be flavorful. that is just for ballancing and reducing play pain. flavor additions for horde would also have been nice. the blimp from orgrimar to thunder bluff is pretty bad, and similar to the tram. they should have added stops to thousand needles and ferelas. having a convienent one all the way to sillithus would proabably be bad for community, unless it had neutral guards. it would need neutral guards for both factions to pvp over access, just like for the ferelas boat option. but both ferelas and thousand needles would have character and charm for blimps to go through. thunderbluff to thousand needles would allow my height difference and verticality in thousand needles allowing the blimp to not have to go up and down. and a blimp floating down the main road to ferelas with a old style continuous elevator (paternoster) attached to one of the windmills, would be charming. a mass transit vehicle going from some contested zone, like moonglade down to sillithus, would have droped a huge amount of time for only a bit of complexity, and would have really shown the faction dissonance between the druids and sillithids. it also would have increased world pvp a ton. similarly opening up tangential zones to reduce flight time would have helped the world completeness. they sorta did it with dwarf door to the searing gorge, but it was rarely used by raids. even then, using attunement and world things to reduce time would have saved a ton of transit time and aggravation. the distance of the twin capital city blimp and tram isn't what matters, but the relevance of them. the travel time and complexity. the distance between silithus (on the map) and ferelas beign similar to mulgore and durotar has a different connotation because of the actual use and demand of the paths. if there is no good alternative to an option then it will always be picked, but if there is a better alternative, the bad redundant option will only be picked by roleplayers. either the use of mass transport should be from the utilitous purpose of getting strangers around the world together, focusing on tapping the low level zones, or it should be for expedition style grouping of premades. everything else is a waste.
Since I quit in Wrath, I never really noticed the speed increase of flight paths. They were often a good time to grab a snack or hit the restroom, aye.
Whats the song in the background at 6:23 ? its really bugging the hell out of me, i know it from somewhere. * Nevermind i just found it, chrono Triggers ost is so good. :)
MadSeasonShow , regarding the WOW lore , have you played Warcraft III campains? can you make a episode about that? Cheers , i really like your content!
I didn't like it, I loved it. Bit curious how you're making the footage of these old patches. Do you somehow run a server & client locally or how's it done? :)
I remember static health regen being much better/faster in Vanilla and TBC. Think it was in WoD they slowed it down a lot along with adding that annoying overkill save on mobs which you blatantly knew the mob should've died from but instead stayed at 1% health until the next hit.
I kinda like the idea of dungeons having no cap on how many peoples can enter. Like sure 40 man in deadmines might make the content beyond easy but the chance of you actually getting loot decrease significantly so its a good trade off as long as the number of items dropping dosent change and exp decreases. Make it feel more like an open world rpg.
I will be very interested to see how many people convert to Classic. You know, the type who dismiss vanilla as pure nostalgia and partisanship. Indeed, vanilla had a lot of problems and very underdeveloped classes-- but the fact that it knows what kind of game it is, an MMORPG, and embraces it, completely overshadows all of those issues and makes it a vastly superior example of its genre. Modern WoW is designed for people who don't like MMOs, and I strongly suspect the reason there's so much dissatisfaction these days is because people are unconsciously becoming aware of that fact and it being a bad thing. It's like like SWTOR and its recent content, an MMORPG trying to bastardise itself into a hybrid single player game-- with the result being a piss poor MMO and a piss poor single player experience.
Logged into hard-core today and everybody in chat was talking about the new update and how it bricked all the mods. people were joking about them implementing a rez token in the new patch and a lot of people we’re genuinely thinking it was real which says a lot about what many think blizzard would be willing to do
Amazing video as usual! What tool do you use to get a freeroaming camera in a vanilla build? Can't seem to find older versions of WMT and Free Far Sight didn't exist for older builds. Thanks!
It's a good day when madseason uploads
It's a good day when Why Not comments =]
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We all love mad season!
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every time he uploads i want to slit my wrists
FIRST! YES!! My life is now complete.
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Gad damnit xD jk
Shut up.
I remember the first time I rode the gryphon from IF to SW . I don't think I'll ever be able to replicate that in a game ever again, looking down at the other zones, seeing a few skull enemies ..wondering if I'll ever make it to that zone ...good times
"Troll shamans would have basically been raid bosses"
But all that time.... there he was. Just standing there. Regenerating f̶i̶v̶e̶ TEN, health,
per
second.
I glared at the Troll.
The Troll glared back at me.
Silence flooded the world.
"And there's nothing you can do about it," the Troll whispered.
Bwahahahaha. I bustes a got at work cuz of this.
Best Comment of the Year.
I don't get it 👀
Love this channel, I can’t imagine how long these videos take to edit.
Keep doing WoW videos please.
Thanks.
They take a while, but they're totally worth it since I enjoy editing quite a bit...even moreso when I get positive feedback like yours. Thanks for watching!
MadSeasonShow - thank you for acknowledging my comment, it’s good when a creator communicates with their fans.
@@madseasonshow Trust me, not everyone posts a comment but definitely, all of your viewers absolutely love your video's and are waiting eagerly for another upload. The combination of your voice/editing/music choice/content is just amazing. Never came across video's that were nicer to listen to and look at than yours. Never stop uploading video's, please!
Nothing like 20 minutes of MadSeason to end the week
Enjoy the weekend!
DrTheKay lmao
Dude, I get serious nostalgia feels watching your WoW history vids! Thanks man!
Darnassus - Silithus. You could take a shower and make dinner before landing.
You see, back in vanilla the "endgame" wasn't the most important thing. The grind to reach level 60 was a great experience by itself. It was a legitimate part of the game, just as important as the endgame.
AlexeiVoronin totally agree man. For me vanilla is more of a journey spent with my friends to try out new things, get new gears and explore new place rather then hitting the endgame. Those little nostalgic moments along the way are such a treasure for me. Tbh I didn’t even know the “endgame” part until tbc is about to come. After hitting 60 I was just wondering around helping new players and guide them in case they got lost. It was a more pure and enjoyable experience for me.
This.
It's why I can't stand playing modern wow. There's no "world" in world of warcraft anymore when 99% of the content is a loot slide into the current patch with heirlooms, queues and "catch up" dungeons making said content meaningless.
They designed the game to revolve entirely around the short term, then wonder why they're losing subs in the long term.
@@ExplosionRadius it's not a mmorpg anymore. It's a mmo hack n slash with a cash shop and a paid way to get to end game.
I thought it was narrative that had mostly ruined retail. Sin e classic I've realized the entirety of retail is trash. It died after wotlk. Something was lost after that.....
I was a casual-hardcore gamer in vanilla, meaning I was a bit slower to lvl to 60 than most of my guildies with hardcore tendencies... I was a warlock. they needed warlocks in early lvl 60 raids and because warlock was a weak class in the first months of the game not many warlocks were rolled.
so my guild waited WEEKS upon WEEKS for me to finally make it to lvl 60.... imagine that in modern times.. . Somehow, despite being rather slow, I was still among the first 10 warlocks on the server to make it to lvl 60. And then I needed another 3 weeks to get my Onyxia attunement done.... meanwhile they had already disenchanted half a dozen warlock epic pieces because there was nobody to loot them.. (the only other warlock in the guild already had everything because he got 100% of the warlock loot. Finally I was able to join them for MC and Ony.... I stayed with that guild for 2 years all the way to C'thun and Naxx... It was amazing, we were amateurs compared to modern raiders, but we kept going till TBC... We had those legendary all night wipe fests.... guild drama, splitting up and merging.... We never made it to end boss naxx, but we had a blast and till today it was the best gaming experience of my life . at some patch warlocks got really powerful
MadSeason your vidoes are so good. You have the perfect voice of telling stories and this episode is giving me extra nostalgic feeling! Cant wait for classic and hope that I will run into you one day.
OMG the music at the end of your video bring back amazing memories of Zelda =)
Chrono Trigger
You always have such great old school game music in your video backgrounds
FIsherman's horizon Pogchamp
I watched over a minute of a greasy dude playing the pan flute for a Doritos commercial before this video. You are welcome Mad.
appreciate u
You don't have to watch the whole video, they get paid the same even if u skip.
MadseasonShow, thank you so much for all these excellent videos. You are doing the community a great service by continuing to make these awesome vids. Keep the content coming because we all need more things to watch and keep occupied until classic launch! 100% sir!
Please make a guild in Classic so we can all listen to you while you lead us through raids to glory!
That would be glorious
Just a question; could you try to make a playlist for the episodes that are in a series? Makes it easier to rewatch everything for us fans!
Dude i couldlisten to you for hours and never would get enough. Thank you so much for being alive in a time i am.
MadSeason thank you for your videos man. I’ve played WoW for 10 years now and it’s really great to listen and know that there’s people out there that still appreciate the old game as much as i do. I hope you truly enjoy Classic when it comes out and maybe I’ll see you out in the world! Have a good one brother
Mad season, I’ve seen and love all your videos, they’re just incredible. Very informative, relaxing, and you truly know how to both inform those who are new and interested, and play on us old gamers nostalgia. One of my favorite things is that, as if the wow nostalgia isn’t enough, you throw the Zelda music in there and it really just brings me back to a really positive, enjoyable time hehe. Don’t ever stop making videos. I don’t even care if they’re not about wow anymore even though vanilla was and is my favorite game ever made. Literally any game you become knowledgeable about will be worth watching videos created by you on.
Thanks for the kind words, Mike! I have wanted to talk about other games from my past(OoT, the old Final Fantasies, Elder Scrolls, etc.), but time has always been an issue for me. It would be a "one or the other" type of situation, and I still have a lot more to say about WoW so I have no plans on stopping soon. One day I'd like to branch out a bit more, and it's nice to know I have people like you who would join me! Thanks for watching and have a good weekend.
Awesome video Mad! Love to fall asleep listening to your relaxing videos :) Keep it up m8.
Jesus it's sad to think about how the current content is paced compared to this. Thanks for the awesome video Madseason!
I'd put MadSeason up there with Morgan Freeman for people that need to narrate my life.
Never played wow and yet I recently started watching a lot of your videos. Your voice is amazing and the structure of the videos keep my interest. Thanks!
MadSeason's videos are always so high quality. Only UA-camr I put notifications on because every upload is super enjoyable!
On my server getting rid of 10 man raids for all the 5 man dungeons was actually a huge deal. It wasn't uncommon for people to still have all their quests when the change happened. Paladins had huge issues trying to get their epic mount because nobody wanted to do those runs 5 man.
On my EU server it was pretty common to do class raids to sholo and strath where you only brought 1 per class. It was the easiest way to grind tier 0 back in the day
When you said "Thats when your restock on beer", nostalgia hit me hard. So true during those long flights
So happy that i saw this on my feed. Thanks madseason
I hope you enjoy!
Beautiful video!
Also such underground footage, i love it
Always enjoy your videos man awesome job.
Great video as always! I do want to point out that for a long time flight paths weren't connected. To go from one end of the continent to the other, you had to take a flight to the next flightmaster, then look at their map and buy the next leg of the journey. This was exacerbated by some flight points near each other not actually connected, so upon landing you'd see you can't get to where you wanted to end up, you had to fly somewhere else first and then there.
The tour through Strat with the vanilla music going behind it just put me in such a good mood. Loved this game and can't wait for Classic
6:14 - while that entrance to Naxxramas never was used, it WAS possible to get to in the live game eventually. During MoP, I found ways of glitching under/behind Stratholme (so, uninstanced version), and you could indeed go through that tunnel where what you're showing in the video is in fact there in the open world.
I miss Beta/Vanilla leveling so much, was so awesome playing all day and like at best you gained 2 levels. Every level was a big deal, every new piece of gear was wicked cool!
Great content bro, brings back some good memories with old friends, thanks.
Finishing the video with the Kakariko Village theme whilst vanilla WoW memories play in my head...too much childhood nostalgia, why am I crying ;_;
Thanks for the video, this brings back old memories!
Im just watching all your videos, getting hyped for Classic.
This video made me remenber a great player that also made content about wow, Hayven.
HI I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS. THANK YOU
Dear MadSeasonShow,
Please make more content because I am dying of boredom. Your content is amazing.
I spend a lot of time now dreaming of the classic release and these videos just make that wait a little more bearable.
I can't wait to jump back into the World of Warcraft and set off on an epic journey, making friends, and enemies.
Whether Alliance or Horde, we all share the World of Warcraft together.
The day classic comes, is the day we unite as players.
P.S FOR THE HORDE!
I will try my best. Time has been pretty limited unfortunately so the quantity has suffered this year. Hopefully the quality is still intact though!
@@madseasonshow Your best is all I ask. :D
But seriously though, this content makes me feel so joyous.
Keep up the great work.
great vid. love the FF music in the background
This is a really interesting series, MadSeason.
Your music choice is fantastic
Madseason is the calm voice that soothes the pain of youtube!
@6:16 the second i heard that piano tune i knew it was chrono trigger...god you know its a fav video game when you can tell the music at the drop of the beat lol
i love your song choices though.
Around 11:25, you say that the IF-SW tram was a godsend due to the cost savings on travel it enabled. While that may have been true for the most penny-pinching of adventurers, the main advantage of the tram was the MUCH faster speed compared to the slow griffins at the time, a point you mention later in the video. Besides, this particular flight path was quite cheap.
The griffin was good for the view, and/or if it was time to make some dinner anyway.
Believe it or not patch 0.12 (3988) came after 1.0.0 (3980).
Your videos are so elegant and beautiful. I wish you all the happiness in the world
Always love when you put out a new video.
Aww =]
I used to love quests for keys. I know it’s not vanilla, but Karazhan questline was one of my favorites, and like you I would let people in. What greater reward is there, than being able to discover a whole new area...
I played on Windrunner for all of classic. On my server it was standard to run all the level 50+ dungeons as 10 mans in PuGs. It wasn't until patch 1.10 that I ran any of them as 5 mans. Good memories lol
In early vanilla everything was done 10 man for 60 man dungeons, and around DM it changed to 5 man mostly. Scholo was especially bad with all the bugs like ghoul poison death damage having an extra zero in it that insta killed people.
LBRS was also tuned for 5 people, the ring parts wouldn't drop if you were in a raid during live. So usually you'd 10 man it, and have to drop group to loot the body to check for ring gems.The ring also summoned Vael if you right clicked it during the Arena fight, he'd pop in and help you for a little while.
I love your videos... especially the nostalgic vanilla videos... you somehow capture the magic of vanilla and express it perfectly; to the extent that I literally recall and see myself playing 15 years ago as you go on (I'm sure your syory telling voice has something to do with it). 😆😆
Thanks
Memories 😭❤️
I love these uploads your videos are always very well done
From a Hiru steam to a 20 minute MadSeason video. Today is a good day
It is so weird that you used Secret of the Forest from Chrono Trigger. Just finished re-playing it and I've been listening to that song on repeat this week, and this is the SECOND youtube video that I've heard it in since!! Eerie.
Rip street fighting skill.
4:00 - classic favorite Maraudon, final wing.
Love your voice ... im rly happy for every vid you make :)
The slow journey to leveling, getting gear, and no group/raid finder are what made old wow special for me. I felt more attached to my toons..
The social aspect was so much more engaging than it is now
Mmm the legendary intro is back!
You my friend, doing some of the best content !
Please don't use that amazing WoW music.
That Ashenvale/Moonglade soundtrack made me rewind a lot, because it's so mesmerizing and couldn't focus on you talking :)
Great content as usual! Keep it up!
Got to ashenvale yesterday. Just stood there for a min enjoying how different it is to the places I've been so far. Proper brought me back to finding stuff back in the days when I was 13 lol
Everytime a video gets uploaded i get a heart attack on hoping we get release date. This is a good start on the mad season thanks!!
I saw that the beta info page has been getting updated for Classic, so strap in!
I remember when I played some random rpg's when I was 10 yrs old, and to see someone at max level, felt like an achievement. A thing that used to be a part of mmropgs is the fact that not everyone had a max level char, and when u saw a player that has max level you would ask him about his adventures and how to get that powerful. I miss those days, when level was a huge part of the game.
i recall darkshore to silithus taking 35 minutes until sillithus was connected to feralas. it would take 45 minutes just to get from ironforge to diremaul. and that was after flight path linking.
to ferelas took around 25 minutes.
the biggest problem the alliance had was teh lack of connection cross continent.
people would hang around in iron forge, because it was central for the eastern kingdoms, but if you wanted to go to sillithus you had to fly to either bootybay or wetlands, and take a boat over. or take a portal from a mage. whether you went, ironforge-wetlands-abberdine, or to bootybay, you had to run across a zone to get onto the boat, and then personally disembark and run to the flight master. this was a pain because so much of the transit time required manual input. you couldn't just fly to the boat, nor was teh flight master on the docks.
you could shave a few minutes by going to booty bay instead, but it was basicalyl horde controled and there was faction based glitchiness. sometimes someone could attack you and you would get flagged as hostile by the guards, and have to die 7 times to get on the boat.
engineers had portals to the neutral cities, but weren't able to share them.
it honestly was horde favortism. the blimps had much better coverage. and even when the seccond ship got added, it took players to theramore, not rutherran (eventually a 25 minute reduction) or gadgetzen (4 minute time reduction from theramore).
the rest of this is worldbuilding because i care. not directly relevant to the video though.
and the tram shouldn't have gone from ironforge to stormwind because there was no point to go to stormwind, and it was less than 1s cost. it should have connected to the bael modan (dwarf outposts in barrens), grimbatol (wetlands, and the location should be destroyed), and either thandor span or dun garok in hillsbrad foothills.
bael modan might have been a better tram location if instead of being in the hills near theramore, it was flipped to be on the opposite side of the barrens, then it could penetrate into ferelas and thousand needles. that would ballance it to "you may have to use a boat/tram/blimp/ and one flight path"
the blimps had two locations on one map, and a central location on the other, and you could jump off the blimp anywhere along the way; if you died you would only get a 5 minute penalty at the spirit healer. the ships had a top and central location on one, and a central on the other; and the tram was basically nothing. the ships couldn't really be jumped off to allow fast transit. you could shave time lost, but you couldn't avoid a run down darkshore; meanwhile a zeplin to TB would save a few minutes from a run down barrens, and once you could fly out of TB most of kalimdor opened up.
undercity-ogrimar-thunderbluff--bootybay. undercity was a zepplin from ogrimmar, and close to half of the highlevel easter kingdoms stuff, "bootybay" (gromgol) was close to the other half.
darnassus wasn't close to anything.
stormwind was 10 secconds closer to BRM, and minutes farther from strat and scholo.
thereamore was close to onyxia, but not of other value.
ironforge was optimally placed for eastern kingdom's dungeoning, but was a flight and a boat and another always long flight from anything else.
southshore was appropriate for a boat, but didn't have one. so was the troll fishing village in hinterlands.
everlook was close to a place for consumables. it was sorta meh for both factions, but could have worked as a shared hub if the goblin cities had been networked via tram. shifting it to have a dock would have been awkward but okay.
gadgetzen was sorta close to Anquiraj. it is like a 5 minute flight.
bootybay was close to swamp of sorrows, blasted lands, and acceptably far from BRM.
the last map problem i had was that sillithus was just not connected to anything. having a break in teh mountains with a beach would allow for a seccond boat from ferelas to get down to sillithus. put neutral cenarian hold or goblin npcs on board and it is good and fair for both factions hell put both and allow them to fight as you travel. alternatively, they could have had the sillithus bug caves connect to the ferelas ones, or an item and entity like BWL which would allow a port to the gong in sillithus from the ferelas festering hole. even connecting the ungorrow camp cave system to ferelas would have droped 10 minutes of alliance travel time. teh last option, which would have been teh best, would be to have the goblin cities connected somehow. instead of dwarves having the tram, the goblins could have it and the 'bank' locations could be tram openings. thus alliance get ships, horde get blimps, and both get tram access. sure the bootybay to rachet ship would have to replaced but that isn't bad or much, rachet still has a bank which looks like a subway terminal. swaping the two would be flavorful.
that is just for ballancing and reducing play pain. flavor additions for horde would also have been nice. the blimp from orgrimar to thunder bluff is pretty bad, and similar to the tram. they should have added stops to thousand needles and ferelas. having a convienent one all the way to sillithus would proabably be bad for community, unless it had neutral guards. it would need neutral guards for both factions to pvp over access, just like for the ferelas boat option. but both ferelas and thousand needles would have character and charm for blimps to go through. thunderbluff to thousand needles would allow my height difference and verticality in thousand needles allowing the blimp to not have to go up and down. and a blimp floating down the main road to ferelas with a old style continuous elevator (paternoster) attached to one of the windmills, would be charming.
a mass transit vehicle going from some contested zone, like moonglade down to sillithus, would have droped a huge amount of time for only a bit of complexity, and would have really shown the faction dissonance between the druids and sillithids. it also would have increased world pvp a ton. similarly opening up tangential zones to reduce flight time would have helped the world completeness. they sorta did it with dwarf door to the searing gorge, but it was rarely used by raids. even then, using attunement and world things to reduce time would have saved a ton of transit time and aggravation.
the distance of the twin capital city blimp and tram isn't what matters, but the relevance of them. the travel time and complexity. the distance between silithus (on the map) and ferelas beign similar to mulgore and durotar has a different connotation because of the actual use and demand of the paths. if there is no good alternative to an option then it will always be picked, but if there is a better alternative, the bad redundant option will only be picked by roleplayers. either the use of mass transport should be from the utilitous purpose of getting strangers around the world together, focusing on tapping the low level zones, or it should be for expedition style grouping of premades. everything else is a waste.
Ending it with soothing Kakariko Village music is damn relaxing.
Since I quit in Wrath, I never really noticed the speed increase of flight paths. They were often a good time to grab a snack or hit the restroom, aye.
whats the song that starts at 6:18 ? it sound so familiar
In the description, secret of the forest from chrono trigger
Another awesome video! Thanks for sharing!
I love to listen to your videos and fall asleep while listening i dont know why xD
Whats the song in the background at 6:23 ? its really bugging the hell out of me, i know it from somewhere.
* Nevermind i just found it, chrono Triggers ost is so good. :)
My fav channel and series :)
Your videos are great - not just hype, instead a lot of facts and memories
dude The Fisherman's Horizon theme made me fangirl more than it should have.
MadSeasonShow , regarding the WOW lore , have you played Warcraft III campains? can you make a episode about that? Cheers , i really like your content!
backpeddle champion LMAO
I didn't like it, I loved it.
Bit curious how you're making the footage of these old patches. Do you somehow run a server & client locally or how's it done? :)
i would also like to know :)
Dude... that feeling of nostalgia... priceless
I don't remember any of this because I was 4 years old. So much nostalgia.
"How quickly can you down a pie"
Bish lemme show ya
Man what a huge patch
Super hyped for classics return
I remember static health regen being much better/faster in Vanilla and TBC. Think it was in WoD they slowed it down a lot along with adding that annoying overkill save on mobs which you blatantly knew the mob should've died from but instead stayed at 1% health until the next hit.
Love these! Thanks :D
the wow content maker we didn't ask for but the one we needed
Scholomance and Shadowfang keep were my favorite vanilla dungeons!!
Next video will be titled "Wow before WOW was made"
so this patch came out on my first birthday. What a great birthday gift
When you're watching a nostalgic WoW video and the Hyrule Field theme hits you like a nostalgic nuclear bomb.
Thanks for these videos
The tram might have been added in 0.10, but it wasn't completed until those ERP guys moved in after the game went live.
I kinda like the idea of dungeons having no cap on how many peoples can enter. Like sure 40 man in deadmines might make the content beyond easy but the chance of you actually getting loot decrease significantly so its a good trade off as long as the number of items dropping dosent change and exp decreases. Make it feel more like an open world rpg.
I will be very interested to see how many people convert to Classic. You know, the type who dismiss vanilla as pure nostalgia and partisanship. Indeed, vanilla had a lot of problems and very underdeveloped classes-- but the fact that it knows what kind of game it is, an MMORPG, and embraces it, completely overshadows all of those issues and makes it a vastly superior example of its genre.
Modern WoW is designed for people who don't like MMOs, and I strongly suspect the reason there's so much dissatisfaction these days is because people are unconsciously becoming aware of that fact and it being a bad thing. It's like like SWTOR and its recent content, an MMORPG trying to bastardise itself into a hybrid single player game-- with the result being a piss poor MMO and a piss poor single player experience.
Me: (Reaches level 60)
Doctor Strange: "were in the endgame now"
i remember helping a guildmate during this beta patch reach first lvl 60 hunter
Love these vids, though you were correct the first time about Stratholme being in Warcraft III! Cheers~
Logged into hard-core today and everybody in chat was talking about the new update and how it bricked all the mods. people were joking about them implementing a rez token in the new patch and a lot of people we’re genuinely thinking it was real which says a lot about what many think blizzard would be willing to do
Amazing video as usual! What tool do you use to get a freeroaming camera in a vanilla build? Can't seem to find older versions of WMT and Free Far Sight didn't exist for older builds. Thanks!