India was colonized by British for long time, this is why the Indian girl is challenging the British guy in Kenya's independence because she has seen & heard the harsh treat of Indian people by the British. Proud of both girls for speaking out without fear against discrimination & racism.
@@vamsikrishna4107 you Indians are true racists of the world you created caste system while europeans was just on white and black tell about you 6000 castes
@@user-vs3sy7to5e hahahhahaha get your facts checked again…. British created the divide and rule policy and that’s how they increased casteism here …. If you read the stories of ancient india you’ll not even see a pinch of casteism there🤣😂🤣🤣🤣
A brown Indian girl speaking about Kenya's independence shows that ppl can feel and understand the pains of others when they are suffering/suffered from the same pain.
@@someonejustsomeone1469 Not all Indians, mostly south indians, even amongst them the ones more south. It is because of their native language perhaps. Or may be a more archaic english usage. Where Nalini is from it is a 400 year association with the Brits.
Guys do you realise this was just a mere 12 years after India's Independance? The wounds from colonies in India were still new and here we have Nalini, so calm and composed.
Bruh people be really replying and writing a whole ass paragraph on the comment which was made 2 years ago I was so stupid to make that comment I have changed guys :)
@@abhinavaditya3516 the whole point of women empowerment is to not shame women for their choices, be it modest or skin showing. And I don't see you shaming other men and "heroes" who are always shirtless , so what are you even doing ?
@@abhinavaditya3516 but yes if youre talking about intelligent thought and articulate speech and debate , then yes, Nalini does set a very good example
@@mamtabiswas1825 haha I don't have a problem with girls wearing short dresses or showing skin bcz IDC but yeah but I don't like how a lot of females claims that showing skin is the only way to show woman empowerment lmao(like you got triggered and wrote 2 whole paraphs on my stupid comment) and talking abt "shirtless guys" I don't see any shirtless guy or have ever heard of any shirtless guy being called a "hero" but yeah we do call them "chappri" and again she did a far great job than dancing for a reel both of your comments literally makes no sense and I agree I comment was stupid and I m sorry if I hurt your sentiments and you think its better to dance for a reel in short dress rather than doing something like Nalini, it's your opinion and I respect it :D
How he just kept giving lame excuses about how Kenya was not ready for independence. I would ask who are you to decide who should be independent and not? And how the hell was he setting criteria on what basis they will get independence only if they fulfilled certain criteria, who the hell are you to set the criteria for another nation, another country?
Shocking anyone would steal someone's country then say the owners of that country weren't ready to have it back yet! "I have stolen your car." "What?! Give it back now!" "I'll give it back in ten years. I just... Don't trust you behind the wheel." "But it's MY car! I bought it!" "I've been filling it with gas and changed the tires so I think you'll find you're indebted to me, now" "But I NEVER gave you permission!" "Yet I still have your car"🤔
Welllll no. A more accurate analogy would be someone having a car that they’ve crashed, being taken away from them and repaired then saying you can only have it back once you learn to drive.
@@i.i1215 thank you for this. arguing with emotion just shows your undeniable passion. i don’t see why she couldn’t have expressed a little bit of emotion.
Why does everyone in this debate assume that colony natives weren't educated at all before colonization? Wasn't India part of the global trade before Europeans found a sea route to India. If it wasn't their way, it isn't right way. How shallow is it becoming?
The Indian girl’s smile is dangerous 😍 she’s my hero and I’m proud of the Ethiopian girl too, she’s the only Ethiopian that represented Ethiopia with honor and dignity in these series.
I know what you mean. The UK boy tried to say that if a person knew a lot about a subject, they couldn't be prejudiced. Ethiopian girl argued that one could nevertheless be prejudiced in subjects they don't know much about. Translation: UK boy felt he could be educated about everything and avoid prejudice. Ethiopian girl educates him about the fact that you can't know everything, so come down from that high horse. QUEEN. lol
Haven’t seen the whole series but there was another Ethiopian girl who did a wonderful job. She was thoughtful but also stood her ground. Wish I could remember her name.
The boy representing the UK is exactly what the Norwegian boy was talking about. The man who believes he is not prejudiced but is in fact the most prejudiced. The condescending tone of the Brit was disgusting. Education means nothing without manners, patience and class.
Do Britishers have the right to judge if other ppl are ready for independence?Who gave them the right? For their kind Information: Indus Valey Civilization is one of the oldest and most robust. They were the richest economy for Ages. Do Britishers want to teach them how to govern ... this statement is clearly a mask to gain time to drain more wealth. Have the imperealists really governed the people.. ?? Governing is making lives of population better, improving the economy.But what has happened ?How were people treated ? What had happened to their economies.? What had happened to their natural resources? Who gave Britisgers to rule a whole continent of America with such large land and water and other resources just because they went there and removed native population? The rulers of native countries then were very hospitable to the travellers from imperialist countries and gave them some rights which later were misused to drain wealth from host and weakening them . The industrial revolution with mordern weapons added to the sorrows and aided in wiping away the wealth, natural and human resources. Development in Science is agood thing but what is more important is for what purpose you use it? History of colonialism, and slavery is an example of how it shouldn't be used. Racism is also a adverse byproduct of colonialism.
Bizu and Nalini are too honest and pure for this program. Even the host was attempting to set them up with those questions, but they handled themselves gracefully.
loved how Ethiopia and India ganged up against UK. I think my favourite part of this debate is how johnny assumes education is something american/ european and can only be attained via western knowledge(it's part of the fact that he thinks everything british is the best and other countries need fixing to fit a british standard of what is acceptable)It's a fact that India was rich in scientific knowledge AND is one of the earliest regions to have educational insituitions. Although I am not flat out saying he is completely wrong, he made some good points.
The Ethiopian girl is so exceptional and she is worthy of my profound appreciation. I found out that she is now 78 and serving as a Cardiologist in California, USA
As an indian, I’m very proud pf her. She was so articulate with her approach and well versed with the subject. It pained me to see how we shared the same pain with kenya and their struggle for freedom, and I’m glad she brought it up. Amazing video.
Except her diluting the prejudice of the caste system. It’s still very much alive in India where the upper castes oppress the lower castes. Not to mention Indias colonization of Kashmir and oppression of religious minorities…
@@kookie2190 after this interview she studied in Columbia University in USA then she returned to India joined civil service and married a diplomat!! She died in 2011 there is a video about it in youtube!!
@@abhinavaditya3516 um I think women empowerment is just letting women do what they want. So if these women aaj kal kapde pehenkar naachna hai tho , why do u care? It’s their business, who are you to judge them? Not every girl is interested is debating. Not every person is interested in the same topic.
@iamricherthanadaniandambani What??? Are people like you for real? Hindi is not a "Pakistani language"! You must be joking right?? 🤣🤣 But Listen !! Hindi, and even Urdu are very much languages of Bharat, that originated in India (that is Bharat!) The Pakistanis are just speaking one of the Indian languages! I don't seriously understand what makes you guys hate a language spoken and understood by the vast majority of Indians (which is Hindi) ! Hindi is the most ideal "link language" amongst the Indian masses! You might get piles but let's face this reality! You people have this separatist mindset! Bharat is sick and tired of people like you! Atleast speak with facts even if separatism is your only motive! Seriously "God" bless Bharat from separatists like you!!
As a Kenyan, this was very triggering to watch! I can't believe that this was the mindset of the British as to why they wouldn't free my country. I can't believe they made it seem like we didn't want our freedom. My grandma still tells me about the war to independence and how it traumatized families like hers, when her sister was killed in front of her; and she was just a kid. I don't think I have the strength in me to finish the video. This is just sad
So depressing to watch this and come to the realisation the world hasn't changed much. As a Kenyan 🇰🇪, I highly appreciate our Ethiopian 🇪🇹 neighbour and the Indian 🇮🇳 girl standing up for us.
Same way I'm also thinking. These young people are so tolerant, understanding, outspoken and graceful that something better didn't happen to our world today?
White supremacy had the British boy thinking that that British culture is “higher” than Kenyan culture. This attitude still exists today. So proud of the Ethiopian girl who pointed out the deep racism that exists both in England and America...and the great hypocrisy that exists in both nations that say they’re democratic nations.
lol both england and usa are MUCH less racist than places like Kenya or India. in fact, uk and us are literally one of the most tolerant nations in the entire world.
@@Komnenos83 pfft is that why people are storming the capitol and taking part in the blm movements, i don't see any major civil issues happening in those countries
The Indian girl, gives new meaning to the song "Brown girl in the ring". As some have pointed out, this was soon after India gained its independence from Britain so she was fully aware of the struggles of her nation. The British lad failed to mention that Britain was stealing a lot of the resources of their colonies than what they were putting back. They love to lay claim to building the railways as they did in India, but they were built to transport all the goods out of India. They forced the Indians to grow cotton instead of food and when Britain had a food crisis they shipped all the grain out of India to feed their people causing millions to die of famine in India. This British lad would have never imagined that the UK today is ruled by a Indian PM. The Ethiopia girl was very pretty and smart. Someone said she is a doctor in California. I had imagined her being a leader in her country. The Norwegian was out of luck, because Norway had not colonized any countries as far as I know.
I really love those two girls . I am proud of being Ethiopian . I really like the Indian girl as well. I thank you for the Ethiopian girl . 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏💚💛❤️💚💛❤️🙏🇮🇳
She was not letting him get off with his political response. To say individuals aren’t capable of running their own country is condescending and tone deaf.
@@alfredthevarajah1344 Yes it's a CHANCE that in fact all of us has ancestors from Kenya. We are truly all connected with her dark skin tone and her seeming intelligence she didn't just get that color from the 🌞
@@Bj-7zo2sMes you not sure she is from Amhara? there is no such partitions back then. Whoever excel in school will got scholarship. You are judging her with today's politics. also her last name suggest she may be from Gurage tribe. her name is Bizuyahu Agonafir.
@@sisay7 the truth was Amhars and gurage were the foot soldiers and previladged by the the Racists shewa gala leadership during the H/ silassie leadership
All here talking about the Ethiopian Girl not realizing that THE INDIAN GIRL raised a good argument on why British government cant give the Kenyans their independence and the SHAMEFUL answer of the BRITISH BOY ......."Because the kenyans are not politically stable" ............WTF
It's sad to say that the English boy's response shows the hegemonic haughtiness embedded in his homeland up to that point in history. They thought they were doing African nations a service by bringing their "refined & morally superior" culture to those "savage" lands. Colonialism at its finest... *sigh*
@@djm4854 i agree! and your response is so well written lol, im not a native speaker so i can't help but admire eloquent sentences that i would never be able to think of
@@user02406 That is so kind of you to say! Thank you! But, never feel like you can't contribute something as poignant in comparison to someone else. You are your own unique person with unique ideas & viewpoints! In fact, you just shared a thought that was both kind & thoughtful, which is already something special---especially for the cruel, unforgiving world that is the internet. LOL
All my respect to the two ladies , not that I am belittling the men but coming from backgrounds as they are, in a time of excessive racism and sexism , and expressing their views and standing up for what they believe in 👏 kudos for the courage
I love how everyone speaks. So clearly, articulate, calmly. No one is squirming in their seats when they receive more uncomfortable questions. They listen before they speak, they pause, they don’t attack each other. These kinds of conversations make far more progress then some of these so called debates I see now.
@@Rsealwag agree! And she acted offended when the indian girl spoked her mind and shuted her and the other girl up when they were talking. That wasn't classy at all.
Oh please only the colonizers would say she was impartial. You could tell she was offended that Norway thinks American teenagers was stupid and partied snd when they talk about America prejudice and the Ethiopian girl and Indian girl speaks on the fear of coming to america and its prejudices. She was quick to ask the Indian lady what are the prejudice of Indias system. She was very for the British guy and the way of his thinking . The truth is this colonizer is so lost that his mindset is the reason we have the racist sick white folks such as fox news. Because the owner came from Australia in which thrybstile that land again from dark skin black people. Where in the world did these white colonizers go thst they have not stolen . The truth is why you have this hatred for people of color yet you steak from they land and inventions to make you rich. You steal they bodies to do the work for you to praise a country you didnot build. The fact thst white Americans brought European immigrants and gave them free land while black Americans build this country and no land was given to them. The racist way of privilege and taken car of your own race. Then you should have stayed in Europe. Don't ask folks who are black Americans yo have a love for the western world when you scream democracy and love for a nation. Yet hate a certain race t g at build this country.
I'm so proud of my Ethiopian sister, the only Ethiopian debater I have watched who consider herself black or color .... all of them are so well articulate and way a head of their age. I wonder if 21st century teenager can hold up a debate like this.
@Night King Very funny how you throw around the word islamophobia. Do you know the history of muslims and christians in Ethiopia since the beginning of time? at least do you research, you sound uneducated.
yeah she is the ONLY Ethiopian debater who consider herself black or color. She actually never said she is black but colored. I wonder who she meant when she said blacks.
Nalini Nair worked as Civil Servant for India to many countries for years and I came to know from another video from UA-cam with a photo that she has been settled somewhere in Trivandrum, Kerala India. Now she is 80 years.
@@williamdevonish4266 She must come from educated background to understand segregation or color I came 1975 I know nothing how the world is divided into color black, white yellow, We only know that I am Ethiopian that is my identity and then african so when they asked me if I am black I used to write no, I am Ethiopian, that I should not accept the name they gave me, I never see white people as white but pink is the color that we think not as identity. I never know about African been colonize or African to be sold to America, the first time I saw roots movie was shocking to me that is when I felt guilty and sad. Where I grew up no tv or no library. People used to ask me do you live with lions and tigers I used to answer them they are our transportation just to make fun I figure they also do not know Africa like my own ignorance so I never was offended.
@@williamdevonish4266for example It is almost you go other country asking you on paper are you kinky hair? Even through you have kinky hair you will be shocked and answer no I am African American, just to give you an example.
Come on she is not that expressive, this what we call bias lol. If u ask I think that British boy very calculated young man although I hate his ideas that has elements of truth. So my friend plz Ethiopian girl, she isn’t that defer from Indian. Plz do the justice
@@user-yk5lv8iw8xyou come home snatches whole of the wealth ( 45 trillion dollars), kill innumerous people, destroy their livelihood, and then say you're not ready for independence yet. Irony killed itself and died a thousand deaths.
@@hustler212 Dude, did you just blow smoke up that ass? 45 trillion? 🤣 Have you been to any of these countries? What’s the condition in India- except piggy backing off of the infrastructure laid by Britishers. He goes on to explain why it would be disastrous for the existing governance body / acting military to just leave. It would be utter chaos. Take Nigeria for example. Their own corruption and people have kept them poor. See what’s happening in Afghanistan.
@@CoolMan-jh1rr Get over it man. If your forefathers had guns and ammunition- they wouldn’t lose to ones who had those. Whole of human history is about factions winning against each other. Too bad that you are on the losing side.
I like how they discuss with calm about these sensitive issues. The two girls discussing here were very impressive. The Norwegian I think he means what today we call Norwegians from North (nord norge).
My God the British and his arrogance! To see their understanding in our times is just mind blowing despite learning about this through history. And to even think that some still hold these understandings to this day!
7:32 He speaks on the stance of the government(siding with it) and the perspective of the whites who are staying at those colonized nations or whites in general(not his own). He later speaks on the value of the native’s culture and should not be westernized. Meaning he’s aware that westernizations could jeopardize the native’s culture. He’s for integration, against racism and segregation. Some people just don’t have great listening skills, further impaired when they’re already biased. Which basically makes them only hear what they want to hear which is typically out of context things that appear to be negative.
@@ggJin let me waste my few seconds on a lost cause. Who the heck gave him the right to go to someone's land and dictate how things should be? They shouldn't be there in the first place. That is the issue not that he is for preserving the natives culture or all the other things you talk of. He is saying that the natives are illiterate and need to be educated to be on the same level with the white settlers, to be integrated. Who the heck does that and still try to find a meaning out of that? You go to someone's land, the land they have lived on for hundreds and thousands of years, take it and put them in a gated village where they are only allowed to leave and work on the farms they stole from them in the first place? You can't find any justification from what he says because the foundation comes from the thinking that we(whites)are better and they(natives/blacks) need our help to be better.
@@wildturkey3776 ohh please i dont know abt other countries but in India 3000 to 3500 years in indus valley civilisation people already adopted democratic ways and moreover we were happy with king's rule in some part as those kings were really capable theres no leader now who match the level of our king from maharashtra state in india and along the time the countries were fated to be democratic coz of diversity in cultures race and this isnt abt just one country but all of them where these british invaded and looted the land and its resources
Also, I love the fact that these delegates are upholding a certain level of reverence for each other despite debating on topics with the scope of extreme disagreement. I can imagine how such a healthy discussion could turn into severely heated arguments today. All in all, it was beautiful!
I have watched so much of this kind of discussions where Ethiopians were part of the discussion but this girl has impressed me very much . I’m proud being an Ethiopian
@@ronaldlord5166 Those Ethiopians do not think they are white. They are heavily misinformed due to propaganda, what separates these Ethiopians and the brain-washed ones is having a true sense of pride that Ethiopians naturally have when western ideologies are not involved. This is also prevalent in Ethiopians who practice christianity, they seem to be extremely patriotic.
@@aightimmaheadout7484 EXACTLY, me and my family were having a maraton of these videos and were just in shocked when the last ethiopian boys said that they were arabs or sun burned hebrews. Separating themselves from their blackness cus they feel superior to west africans and african americans
@@ronaldlord5166 why do so many people keep saying Ethiopians think they are white/non-black/non-African? That is so far from the truth and idk where y'all got it from. I am Ethiopian, I came from Ethiopia, all of my family is from Ethiopia and none of my community members say that. Ethiopians know they are Africans, they know they are black but what they REFUSE to be classified is by the negative racial stereotypes that people put unfairly onto black people, which is 100% fair and a good amount of black people refuse to identify by it too. They refuse to identify with the concepts of "illiteracy", "vandalism", " poverty", etc. Just because Ethiopians don't identify with those negative tropes does not mean they don't acknowledge the fact they are Africans. We are literally one of the oldest African nations and take pride in that. We also acknowledge we are fall into the black category in societies where other ethnicies exist (whites, Latinos, Asians, etc.). We just refuse to identify with the negativity that some people try to attach to that label. Edit: also, the Ethiopian community isn't a monolith. If you heard one or two Ethiopians saying something ridiculous, their opinion don't reflect the identify of the whole so please don't assume all of our identities by the opinions of the weird few😅
The indian girl seems the main character over here idk why😅...she seems so cool & knows what's happening.Her presence making me think if this is real or a netflix movie scene😵! The Ethiopian girl is also amazing!🙌
@@wildturkey3776 owned? Did you watch the video? You also have the profile picture of a man who has said degrading things about women and other prejudice things about minorities. I'm not expecting you to say anything literate
I proud of indian woman.. Nalini.. She is truly represents young Bharat... She is intelligent... Calm, Confident ,Brave & Smart....which all Educated Hindu... 🚩🚩🇮🇳🇮🇳🙏🙏
@@gurubalu6677 she is just indian no matter south , north ,east or west . So according to you Bringing 'south' indian is ok and bringing religion is not ok 😂. Neither Religion should be here nor part of India she belongs to should be here . She is just INDIAN
The fact they're all high schoolers is so shocking like they're all so well spoken and well informed on so many topics, I feel like most high schoolers now wouldn't be nearly as educated or articulate 😭
The Ethiopian girl had given an impressive remark, and being an independent nation had helped her to freely express her self as a young girl. She was also asking for the Kenyan independence at that time. She had given a substantial comments about the racism at the time, and she also given a good implication how the prejudice can affect others without their knowledge. Over all, all of them had a wonderful discussion.
These debates are profound. So smooth and polite. As much as they're against each other's arguments, they're all the more inclusive of each other's opinions and new information. For instance, when the Ethiopian girl talks about the development of Education in her country, the others are attentive and welcoming. It is truly unfortunate that such debates don't take place any longer.
"One cannot just give them a high school education after they have been illiterate for thousands of years" - John Throughout this debate, I do agree John has given some valid points, but this is just outright wrong. I think that John thinks that just because Kenyans were not literate in his language that they must not have any knowledge at all, deeming languages like Swahili as less educated or rich than English. I'm sure he gets this idea from capitalism and white supremacy, but this isn't all his fault - it's just what he was taught. As a British Indian, I have noticed that this prejudice and lack of knowledge of the past has not been learned from. I used to love history, but when I got to high school I realised that it was all written from only one perspective - the whites. I remember coming into a history lesson and my teacher telling us we were going to learn about slavery and the colonisation of India. I was ecstatic as I had hundreds of points to make, and knowledge to share. But the lesson completely took my naïve self by surprise. The curriculum stated that the British brought stability, money and railways to India. They thought it was a better idea to educate the young British generation about trains rather than the suffering they inflicted on the Indians. I remember vividly storming up to my history teacher at the end of class and demanding that the curriculum should be changed. I vented and raged to him about all the slavery and abuse that the British did and I remember shouting about how they r*ped Indian women, leaving them to die and how they had no respect for our culture, trying to re-educate us in a way that they thought was the only way. Their way. My history teacher was a white, British man. He sat and listened to me patiently, nodding and agreeing with my statements. When I had finished, he looked at me and told me I was right. That history IS only taught from the white perspective, it IS made to make the British look better and that everything that I was saying should be taught and recognised. But he also told me that as much as he'd like to change the curriculum, it most probably wouldn't be, as people are more concerned - like they always were, no matter how much they say they've changed - about their public image. I was so emotionally drained that I couldn't reply. He didn't tell me to disregard my views and just learn what I'm told I'm supposed to, but that having strong opinions were crucial to survive in this world of cruelty and that you will be stepped on without them. He told me to stick with them and fight with them and maybe one day that that would change the history books. I live by that now. I have found that I have grown to be a very opinionated, strong, young woman and I am proud of that and my heritage. I have also found that I have a strong affinity towards debating. I'm sharing this in the hopes that whoever reads this doesn't succumb to anyone else because they view themselves and their views as superior to yours. If you believe in something, fight for it.
White british man?? You mean a british man??? Real british are white, you obviusly are happy to take the citizenship of your colonizers, stop saying white british
Moral: Colonial apologists will go to any lengths to justify colonial wrongdoings and to pass them off as being for upliftment of the uncivilized natives.
It gives me chills when I think, they might not be there in this world anymore. They might be around 82 years of age. They might be alive or dead. I would have loved to see where they are in their lives, what did they do afterwards? Is it just me who is getting curious about where they are in their lives?
I agree, but there is nothing to be proud to be an Ethiopian anymore. Our country is in a big trouble.the country that people get killed because of their ethnical-and beliefs background, and displaced from the place they lived for decades.we are just full of foolish pride without nothing. All we do is pointing at others and each other for the nation’s failure instead of unity and love, our country is a very low label on economy, national security, safety. Let’s drop the pride for now , because it does not make sense!!
@@yennygebre9216 You're certain my brother/sister, but being an Ethiopian has nothing to do with the problems created by us, I mean like it's not what we have been creating since some several years but it's natural and inevitable! So I barely get anything from the perspective how you defined and described it. Still proud to be an Ethiopian!!
@@yennygebre9216 there was a moment called zemene mesafinet in Ethiopia were each state had there own leaders people always fighting for the throne and yet we passed that moment and became one. our unity made us the only country in Africa that wasn't colonized the only country that celebrates victory day adwa when other African countries celebrates indepandance day our unity is a storm that stands high like a tower and could wash over the plans of our enemy's so the so called developed countries would do anything to pull as down I tell you we're having many problems because we're gonna rise the youth and the teen's like me are being educated about there country by themselves and I tell you I'm in high school and there is not a day we pass by with out talking about our country and even try to do projects on things that could help our country Ethiopia.. so bruh u should be proud of our country we haven't yet known about the secret of our country we will rise just don't let the media and people talking all around about hate and racism keep u from being proud and loving your people love y'all
The Ethiopian girl is smartest , well informed and the most beautiful girl I have ever seen in my life represented her country very well . What an outstanding young woman. Much deserved love and respect ❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏
The Ethiopian girl truly reflects the high level of education we had in Ethiopia during that glorious period! All of us must hurry now more than ever before to reclaim that glory.
@@luk-man7889 you could have expressed yourself without the insult , you are the typical byproduct of the Tplf corrupted generation ...didn’t you notice the pride that the Ethiopian girl had when she said that we were never colonized , that is what it means to be Ethiopian ..
@@mikot4439 should I give you a lesson in Ethiopian history? Maybe not, because all they thought you falsehood and you will be shocked. The truth hurts. Instead of being proud of emperor who abandoned his people and ran off only to take refuge in a London apartment, thank PM. Winston Churchill who bail him out and handed him the country back.
I just loved the way Nalini speakes and her smile is soo alluring ... .. moreover , I loved seeing the reaction of uk when India directly talked about Kenyan independence . I really respect the courage of nalini and the Ethopian girl 🌼
I believe John was trained to answer the question about Kenyas independence. Same answer was given to Africans when they asked for their art back, they were told they would not know how to take care of their own art
I am very proud of the Ethiopian girl she is so intelligent and proud in her skin. I just watched the other debates but the young Ethiopian boys were not informed, when they said Amhara is better than other ethnic tribes in Ethiopia and we are the lost tribe of Israel. I was very disappointed, because I am more than two Ethiopian ethnicities. This kind of false pride caused the problems happening right now in Ethiopia.
amharas are the lost tribe that is his opinion who are you to tell Amharas what to think? You have a problem with Amharas having pride tell my why Lake Tana is in their region then? the whole horn will be benefiting from Amhara peoples water you complexiam keep your our tribe name out of your racist mouth
@Abyssinia 024 Hey there, what can I say? This is just ridiculous!! You judged my ethnicity right from my name, I guess so. However, I am Amhara ethnicity though I am ashamed to tell someone who has a blinded and screwed way of judging people. Don't judge a book by its cover. Above all, we are humans. Again, I can assure you my stance on the original topic that I don't believe we, AMHARAS are lost tribes of Israel. እኛ አማራዎች ነን እንጂ ከእስራኤል ነገድ አይደለንም። Thanks.
@Abyssinia 024 You are lost and make amhara's look bad. We do not have an OUNCE of blood from any other country, we are purely Ethiopian. There is always the exception of intermingling but it does not reflect on the Ethiopian civilization. This is purely western propaganda in order to divide the tribes of Ethiopia to feel that they are superior to one another. That is exactly how our country will fall if we continue to believe in ideologies that come from thin air. I myself am amhara and I have never once thought of myself as superior to any other tribe because then I would be betraying my moral compass. I refuse to believe in such lies and I suggest you do more unbiased research.
3:11 Excellent statement by the girl from Ethiopia. Any segregation present in the United States whether North or South is seen as having discrimination in the country as a whole by Africans who view it from the outside of the continent.
Iam so impressed by this conversation of my parents generation ..they are socially so responsible ...hope we were educated in the same manner .......we could not have so many absconders and polarizers ....who left this country leaving millions of debts and killing democracy by polarizing citizens on basis of caste, religion etc
I am very proud of our representative, an Ethiopian girl. She is so decent and humble to express her stands free of any inferiority. She knows well what independence is and tries to fight for other black peoples as her forefathers have been doing. This is the essence of being an Ethiopian.
We have a long way to go but human progress is generational. I think it's changing in my lifetime, i am proud of the unity I've seen so far and I'm excited to see more harmony among the raves and cultures on earth. The fact that these people are talking in one room shows the small steps that were taken in the past.
I am so proud the beautiful Ethiopian girl and the Indian girl debates. I wonder where the Ethiopian, girl now. 🤔 I feel like to do a High school, .reunion for them and host the debates.😁 I hope and wish all of them are well also succeed in life. 🙏🇪🇷
This video talks volumes ! It’s disheartening to see not much has changed of the world, decades later. To see such hope in the youth of yesterday, I wonder how they turned out and hope they weren’t disappointed with the world !
I like this conversation. They all had a chance to learn from each other. I think the boy from the UK doesn't quite understand what they are saying, though I understand his confusion being as that has been what he has been told since he was little. I think they brought up good points. I hope that the UK boy was able to learn more after this interview.
As a Kenyan watching the ignorance of the British guy was offensive and sad at the time because he genuinely believed that they were helping us. I really respect Nilini for keeping a clear head because I'm not sure I would have done the same if I were in her place. The Indians were just as affected as the tribes in Kenya during the colonization, especially since they were forced to provide labor for the Kenya- Uganda railway even though there was no promise of any long term benefits for them. I also don't believe the fact that the British didn't have any other intentions aside from 'helping' the tribes, which, mind you, survived just fine in the centuries before the whites came in,
You say that, but the Arabs were pillaging the land before the British arrived. Obviously British policies in Kenya were horrid in the 50s, but they were closely guarded secrets, and the government of the time hid it from even the Royal Family. You are right that the boy didn't know about these policies but to call him ignorant as though he had any way of knowing otherwise is kind of unfair
India was colonized by British for long time, this is why the Indian girl is challenging the British guy in Kenya's independence because she has seen & heard the harsh treat of Indian people by the British. Proud of both girls for speaking out without fear against discrimination & racism.
There was aleready racism and fuedalism in India before british colonism
@@user-vs3sy7to5e which became worst with british the true racists of the world
@@vamsikrishna4107 you Indians are true racists of the world you created caste system while europeans was just on white and black tell about you 6000 castes
Let me tell you there was some positive aspects too rather than kings rule you brits gave this world democracy and medium was colonisation
@@user-vs3sy7to5e hahahhahaha get your facts checked again…. British created the divide and rule policy and that’s how they increased casteism here …. If you read the stories of ancient india you’ll not even see a pinch of casteism there🤣😂🤣🤣🤣
A brown Indian girl speaking about Kenya's independence shows that ppl can feel and understand the pains of others when they are suffering/suffered from the same pain.
*Brown* 👀👀
I would like the sentence more if it's *A Indian girl* itself only..
@@fightmeillblessuwithcandyb3707 why do Indians overuse the word "only" so much?
How come you saw colour?
@avanii why not use the word "just" then? Would be more reasonable.
@@someonejustsomeone1469 Not all Indians, mostly south indians, even amongst them the ones more south. It is because of their native language perhaps. Or may be a more archaic english usage. Where Nalini is from it is a 400 year association with the Brits.
Guys do you realise this was just a mere 12 years after India's Independance? The wounds from colonies in India were still new and here we have Nalini, so calm and composed.
I noticed that as well. Good point.
Bruh people be really replying and writing a whole ass paragraph on the comment which was made 2 years ago I was so stupid to make that comment I have changed guys :)
@@abhinavaditya3516 the whole point of women empowerment is to not shame women for their choices, be it modest or skin showing.
And I don't see you shaming other men and "heroes" who are always shirtless , so what are you even doing ?
@@abhinavaditya3516 but yes if youre talking about intelligent thought and articulate speech and debate , then yes, Nalini does set a very good example
@@mamtabiswas1825 haha I don't have a problem with girls wearing short dresses or showing skin bcz IDC but yeah but I don't like how a lot of females claims that showing skin is the only way to show woman empowerment lmao(like you got triggered and wrote 2 whole paraphs on my stupid comment) and talking abt "shirtless guys" I don't see any shirtless guy or have ever heard of any shirtless guy being called a "hero" but yeah we do call them "chappri" and again she did a far great job than dancing for a reel both of your comments literally makes no sense and I agree I comment was stupid and I m sorry if I hurt your sentiments and you think its better to dance for a reel in short dress rather than doing something like Nalini, it's your opinion and I respect it :D
UK, India, and Ethiopia in a serious debate
Norway:👁👄👁
Norway is a vibe
😂😂😂
Lmao fr what was he even doing there
Norway was an active participant in slave trade to the Caribbean @@senkkella7664
I'd ask you the same, but you'd probably just laugh again @@cerbzzz7147
When Nalini asked John why the Brits weren't giving independence to Kenya I was shook! Its interesting seeing this!
We Indians have eyes on all the happenings of the World sincerely since ages
@@djneil4135 till now also
Tibet,hongkong and many more ............👀🤫
@@djneil4135WTF! "Sincerely"..... No Stop Lying bhai!
How he just kept giving lame excuses about how Kenya was not ready for independence. I would ask who are you to decide who should be independent and not? And how the hell was he setting criteria on what basis they will get independence only if they fulfilled certain criteria, who the hell are you to set the criteria for another nation, another country?
@@candiceruth10 Most African nations were much better off under European rule hence why they all want to move to Europe now 😏
Shocking anyone would steal someone's country then say the owners of that country weren't ready to have it back yet!
"I have stolen your car."
"What?! Give it back now!"
"I'll give it back in ten years. I just... Don't trust you behind the wheel."
"But it's MY car! I bought it!"
"I've been filling it with gas and changed the tires so I think you'll find you're indebted to me, now"
"But I NEVER gave you permission!"
"Yet I still have your car"🤔
@CL Wil Exactly and he is so blinded to the extent that he doesn't even know what his comments are damaging as a human being
Great analogy
It shows the colonizer's way of thinking.
Exactly
Welllll no. A more accurate analogy would be someone having a car that they’ve crashed, being taken away from them and repaired then saying you can only have it back once you learn to drive.
I'm in awe of Nilini, she is arguing without aggression, hate or contempt
Something we don't see nowadays.
This idea that you’re not allowed to show emotion whilst arguing is very weird. Emotionally intelligence is very important
@@i.i1215 thank you for this. arguing with emotion just shows your undeniable passion. i don’t see why she couldn’t have expressed a little bit of emotion.
and without knowledge
@@sikandarsahib7004 lol u do knw that this was just 12 yrs after Indian independence
Why does everyone in this debate assume that colony natives weren't educated at all before colonization? Wasn't India part of the global trade before Europeans found a sea route to India. If it wasn't their way, it isn't right way. How shallow is it becoming?
Salut🙌
There was already a widespread education system in India called gurukul.
@@mbangroo not exclusively that
@@mbangroo yes. First they dismantled the gurukul system and then forced the Catholic school and then calling Indians illiterate.
India was way advanced then these so called "civilized" countries who colonized other countries
The Indian girl’s smile is dangerous 😍 she’s my hero and I’m proud of the Ethiopian girl too, she’s the only Ethiopian that represented Ethiopia with honor and dignity in these series.
I know what you mean. The UK boy tried to say that if a person knew a lot about a subject, they couldn't be prejudiced. Ethiopian girl argued that one could nevertheless be prejudiced in subjects they don't know much about.
Translation: UK boy felt he could be educated about everything and avoid prejudice.
Ethiopian girl educates him about the fact that you can't know everything, so come down from that high horse. QUEEN. lol
@@djm4854 yup! Without Any BLM in sight!
Yehh ❤️🙌
@@jaybell1390 Wtf are you talking about fool
Haven’t seen the whole series but there was another Ethiopian girl who did a wonderful job. She was thoughtful but also stood her ground. Wish I could remember her name.
Why no one is talking about Indian girl? She’s very well articulated and knowledgeable.
she's smart and has a great personality too
She had the knowledge but was weaker at expressing it. Indians r one of the intelligent people on earth but they didnt get lucky with the accent
Because they u india and India's capabilities t
@@hermonghebresslasie3198 Well the English accent speaking Hindi is also unfortunate sounding...
@@komi-creative true but Hindu is not an international language
The boy representing the UK is exactly what the Norwegian boy was talking about. The man who believes he is not prejudiced but is in fact the most prejudiced. The condescending tone of the Brit was disgusting. Education means nothing without manners, patience and class.
thats a great point
YESSS! He literally contradicted himself on “reasons” about why the Kenya people were not given there independence.
And some people think education automatically comes with manners and class.
Do Britishers have the right to judge if other ppl are ready for independence?Who gave them the right?
For their kind Information: Indus Valey Civilization is one of the oldest and most robust. They were the richest economy for Ages. Do Britishers want to teach them how to govern ... this statement is clearly a mask to gain time to drain more wealth.
Have the imperealists really governed the people.. ??
Governing is making lives of population better, improving the economy.But what has happened ?How were people treated ? What had happened to their economies.? What had happened to their natural resources? Who gave Britisgers to rule a whole continent of America with such large land and water and other resources just because they went there and removed native population?
The rulers of native countries then were very hospitable to the travellers from imperialist countries and gave them some rights which later were misused to drain wealth from host and weakening them . The industrial revolution with mordern weapons added to the sorrows and aided in wiping away the wealth, natural and human resources.
Development in Science is agood thing but what is more important is for what purpose you use it? History of colonialism, and slavery is an example of how it shouldn't be used. Racism is also a adverse byproduct of colonialism.
i agree the tone and the way he said stuuf was wrong, but what he was acctualy saying was facts and you cant deny that.
Bizu and Nalini are too honest and pure for this program. Even the host was attempting to set them up with those questions, but they handled themselves gracefully.
loved how Ethiopia and India ganged up against UK. I think my favourite part of this debate is how johnny assumes education is something american/ european and can only be attained via western knowledge(it's part of the fact that he thinks everything british is the best and other countries need fixing to fit a british standard of what is acceptable)It's a fact that India was rich in scientific knowledge AND is one of the earliest regions to have educational insituitions. Although I am not flat out saying he is completely wrong, he made some good points.
They havnt ganged up they showed their weakness
@@user-vs3sy7to5e stfu josh, are you the johnny ha?
@@mbangroo i m your dad child
@@user-vs3sy7to5e yes, u aren't ur dad's child, u just misspelled that.
@@infinite5795 why are you so scared Indian
The Ethiopian girl is so exceptional and she is worthy of my profound appreciation. I found out that she is now 78 and serving as a Cardiologist in California, USA
Really wow
Tnx, I was wondering where she might be right now.
WoW🙏
💞
What is her name?
As an indian, I’m very proud pf her. She was so articulate with her approach and well versed with the subject. It pained me to see how we shared the same pain with kenya and their struggle for freedom, and I’m glad she brought it up. Amazing video.
A man from Goa, India fought for independence for Kenya. He was assassinated. His name was Pio DaGama Pinto.
Except her diluting the prejudice of the caste system. It’s still very much alive in India where the upper castes oppress the lower castes. Not to mention Indias colonization of Kashmir and oppression of religious minorities…
@@dm_1236 Kashmir acceded to India so its not colonisation. Pakistan invaded Kashmir and is still holding on to part of Kashmir.
@@dm_1236 LMAO...She didn't. She literally mentioned it in the first answer itself.
I really love the fact that Nalini Nair looks like a combination of Lata Mangeshkar and Sarojini Naidu ❤️❤️❤️
Yeah
Wow yes
Yes
Yes exactly!!
Exactly so true 💕💕
The Indian girl... I'm in love with her.
Beauty with brain... She would be my grandma's age by now.
She died 10 years ago!! But yep she would have been our grandma's age
@@musiclover7778 how do u know that
@@kookie2190 after this interview she studied in Columbia University in USA then she returned to India joined civil service and married a diplomat!! She died in 2011 there is a video about it in youtube!!
@@musiclover7778 thanks 4 the news buddy
@@musiclover7778 can u share that link
Indian girl was so clever and well articulated ! Her points were so up to mark !!!
his is what you call woman empowerment look how elegant she is looking but aaj kal to reels pr adhe kpde pehen kar nachna woman empowerment hai 😓😓
@@abhinavaditya3516 um I think women empowerment is just letting women do what they want. So if these women aaj kal kapde pehenkar naachna hai tho , why do u care? It’s their business, who are you to judge them? Not every girl is interested is debating. Not every person is interested in the same topic.
@@abhinavaditya3516 are you speaking English. Your comment makes no sense.
@@emmahollow8898 it's hindi, sit down
@iamricherthanadaniandambani What??? Are people like you for real? Hindi is not a "Pakistani language"! You must be joking right?? 🤣🤣
But Listen !! Hindi, and even Urdu are very much languages of Bharat, that originated in India (that is Bharat!) The Pakistanis are just speaking one of the Indian languages! I don't seriously understand what makes you guys hate a language spoken and understood by the vast majority of Indians (which is Hindi) ! Hindi is the most ideal "link language" amongst the Indian masses! You might get piles but let's face this reality! You people have this separatist mindset! Bharat is sick and tired of people like you! Atleast speak with facts even if separatism is your only motive! Seriously "God" bless Bharat from separatists like you!!
Nalini is so intellectual, she doesn't need to raise her voice to raise a point . She does it so gracefully I love it
As a Kenyan, this was very triggering to watch! I can't believe that this was the mindset of the British as to why they wouldn't free my country. I can't believe they made it seem like we didn't want our freedom. My grandma still tells me about the war to independence and how it traumatized families like hers, when her sister was killed in front of her; and she was just a kid. I don't think I have the strength in me to finish the video. This is just sad
I’m Nigerian and i feel your pain
Stay strong
I'm Kenyan too, and i'm just boiling with disgust watching this. Mungu anisaidie niwe na roho ya kusamehe, sababu mimi siwezi samehe mtu kama huyu
As a Kenyan 🇰🇪 I honestly couldn't finish the video. My blood was boiling. I appreciate the Ethiopian and Indian girls.
i'm not kenyan (im indian) but thank you for sharing with us. my heart goes out to you, have strength friend
They pretended not to know that we didn't want freedom, didn't they see Kenyans fight for it to death?
The india girl charm me with her smile..her eyes❤
I agree. So innocent and beautiful.
Right?! Such an addicting smile.
Haha....classic beauty of Kerala ❤️
South Indians are a balance of beauty and intellect
@@Ds-yy5or I'm a south indian but sadly not this 🥲😂
The Indian girl Nalini nair was the best of the 1959 students..love her videos..please add more videos of nalini
@@youtubeillegallydeletesacc1525 uh ok.
So depressing to watch this and come to the realisation the world hasn't changed much. As a Kenyan 🇰🇪, I highly appreciate our Ethiopian 🇪🇹 neighbour and the Indian 🇮🇳 girl standing up for us.
Same way I'm also thinking. These young people are so tolerant, understanding, outspoken and graceful that something better didn't happen to our world today?
Nalini is so calm like even today these many years later, if I had to endure something like this I'd lose control over my emotions.
Actually there is no logic in the words of British boy
If i was sitting as close to that dude as nalini...I'd be throwing hands😀❌👋
I see weakness. Thats why africans and indians were directly and indirectly dominated by whites for so long.
She's a cardiologist today so it makes sense 🤷🏿♀️🤣🤣❤️
@@ishu5051 11:30
Actually she made a fool of herself
White supremacy had the British boy thinking that that British culture is “higher” than Kenyan culture. This attitude still exists today. So proud of the Ethiopian girl who pointed out the deep racism that exists both in England and America...and the great hypocrisy that exists in both nations that say they’re democratic nations.
lol both england and usa are MUCH less racist than places like Kenya or India. in fact, uk and us are literally one of the most tolerant nations in the entire world.
@@Komnenos83
That's a funny joke lol
@@Komnenos83 keep tellin yourself that
@@Komnenos83 pfft is that why people are storming the capitol and taking part in the blm movements, i don't see any major civil issues happening in those countries
UK isn't democratic they are a monarchy, also Kenya and India had problems long before the white man ever showed up.
Am proud of the Ethiopian and Indian students.
The Indian girl, gives new meaning to the song "Brown girl in the ring". As some have pointed out, this was soon after India gained its independence from Britain so she was fully aware of the struggles of her nation. The British lad failed to mention that Britain was stealing a lot of the resources of their colonies than what they were putting back. They love to lay claim to building the railways as they did in India, but they were built to transport all the goods out of India. They forced the Indians to grow cotton instead of food and when Britain had a food crisis they shipped all the grain out of India to feed their people causing millions to die of famine in India. This British lad would have never imagined that the UK today is ruled by a Indian PM. The Ethiopia girl was very pretty and smart. Someone said she is a doctor in California. I had imagined her being a leader in her country. The Norwegian was out of luck, because Norway had not colonized any countries as far as I know.
Plus Norway doesn't have that much racial discrimination..so Norwegians cannot relate to it
Nalini isn’t leaving that British guy alone xD
I really love those two girls . I am proud of being Ethiopian . I really like the Indian girl as well. I thank you for the Ethiopian girl . 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏💚💛❤️💚💛❤️🙏🇮🇳
🙏❤️🇮🇳 love and respect for both girls
🇮🇳🙏
🙏(✿ ♥‿♥) 🇮🇳 🇮🇳 🇮🇳 🙏
I am glad to hear that Indian girl speaking on behalf of Kenyans. 👍👍👍
Thanks from India 🇮🇳
She was not letting him get off with his political response. To say individuals aren’t capable of running their own country is condescending and tone deaf.
Wise enough to know there is a big chance some of her ancestors are from Kenya
@@JunipersCancer is that true?
@@alfredthevarajah1344 Yes it's a CHANCE that in fact all of us has ancestors from Kenya. We are truly all connected with her dark skin tone and her seeming intelligence she didn't just get that color from the 🌞
What ever they talk , they speak quietly .. that’s very cool.
I love Nalini. She has knowledge . Waw
Nalini Nair... her voice is so pleasant to hear😌
I am so proud of the Ethiopian girl ዬኔ ቆንጆ and the Indian girl too
The Amhara privilege
@@Bj-7zo2sMes what???????
@@Bj-7zo2sMes you make no sense their is no such things as Amhara privilege
@@Bj-7zo2sMes you not sure she is from Amhara? there is no such partitions back then. Whoever excel in school will got scholarship. You are judging her with today's politics. also her last name suggest she may be from Gurage tribe. her name is Bizuyahu Agonafir.
@@sisay7 the truth was Amhars and gurage were the foot soldiers and previladged by the the Racists shewa gala leadership during the H/ silassie leadership
All here talking about the Ethiopian Girl not realizing that THE INDIAN GIRL raised a good argument on why British government cant give the Kenyans their independence and the SHAMEFUL answer of the BRITISH BOY ......."Because the kenyans are not politically stable" ............WTF
it's true, lol
It's sad to say that the English boy's response shows the hegemonic haughtiness embedded in his homeland up to that point in history. They thought they were doing African nations a service by bringing their "refined & morally superior" culture to those "savage" lands. Colonialism at its finest... *sigh*
Lol they unstable coz they have aggressors over in their territory dividing em😂
@@djm4854 i agree! and your response is so well written lol, im not a native speaker so i can't help but admire eloquent sentences that i would never be able to think of
@@user02406 That is so kind of you to say! Thank you! But, never feel like you can't contribute something as poignant in comparison to someone else. You are your own unique person with unique ideas & viewpoints! In fact, you just shared a thought that was both kind & thoughtful, which is already something special---especially for the cruel, unforgiving world that is the internet. LOL
All my respect to the two ladies , not that I am belittling the men but coming from backgrounds as they are, in a time of excessive racism and sexism , and expressing their views and standing up for what they believe in 👏 kudos for the courage
I love how everyone speaks. So clearly, articulate, calmly. No one is squirming in their seats when they receive more uncomfortable questions. They listen before they speak, they pause, they don’t attack each other. These kinds of conversations make far more progress then some of these so called debates I see now.
I must commend the host, being impartial and devils advocate. She's fostered an environment the kids could freely voice their views. Nicely done.
The hostess was killing it, damn fine job.
In 2022, devil's advocate is employed to obfuscate, manipulate, and gaslight in serious discussions
She was totally favoring the brit the entire time.
@@Rsealwag agree! And she acted offended when the indian girl spoked her mind and shuted her and the other girl up when they were talking. That wasn't classy at all.
Oh please only the colonizers would say she was impartial. You could tell she was offended that Norway thinks American teenagers was stupid and partied snd when they talk about America prejudice and the Ethiopian girl and Indian girl speaks on the fear of coming to america and its prejudices. She was quick to ask the Indian lady what are the prejudice of Indias system. She was very for the British guy and the way of his thinking . The truth is this colonizer is so lost that his mindset is the reason we have the racist sick white folks such as fox news. Because the owner came from Australia in which thrybstile that land again from dark skin black people. Where in the world did these white colonizers go thst they have not stolen . The truth is why you have this hatred for people of color yet you steak from they land and inventions to make you rich. You steal they bodies to do the work for you to praise a country you didnot build. The fact thst white Americans brought European immigrants and gave them free land while black Americans build this country and no land was given to them. The racist way of privilege and taken car of your own race. Then you should have stayed in Europe. Don't ask folks who are black Americans yo have a love for the western world when you scream democracy and love for a nation. Yet hate a certain race t g at build this country.
I'm so proud of my Ethiopian sister, the only Ethiopian debater I have watched who consider herself black or color .... all of them are so well articulate and way a head of their age. I wonder if 21st century teenager can hold up a debate like this.
trust me we can hold up at least better than thos two boys
I am proud of Ethiopian sister
I’m so proud of her especially how she challenged the condescending white guy from the UK 🙄
@Night King Very funny how you throw around the word islamophobia. Do you know the history of muslims and christians in Ethiopia since the beginning of time? at least do you research, you sound uneducated.
yeah she is the ONLY Ethiopian debater who consider herself black or color. She actually never said she is black but colored. I wonder who she meant when she said blacks.
Damn Nalini from India was amazing! love how she held herself, also her and Ethopia's answer had so much more depth than the other two
Nalini Nair worked as Civil Servant for India to many countries for years and I came to know from another video from UA-cam with a photo that she has been settled somewhere in Trivandrum, Kerala India. Now she is 80 years.
Kudos to the Ethiopian girl, that’s how a girl from a free nation 🇪🇹 should talk! I wonder if this generation have any such confidence 😌
Good Question?
A Ethiopian queen at her best.
She sees how her people are treated in the usa.. this would of been them if they didn't squash the ITALIANS
@@williamdevonish4266 She must come from educated background to understand segregation or color I came 1975 I know nothing how the world is divided into color black, white yellow, We only know that I am Ethiopian that is my identity and then african so when they asked me if I am black I used to write no, I am Ethiopian, that I should not accept the name they gave me, I never see white people as white but pink is the color that we think not as identity. I never know about African been colonize or African to be sold to America, the first time I saw roots movie was shocking to me that is when I felt guilty and sad. Where I grew up no tv or no library. People used to ask me do you live with lions and tigers I used to answer them they are our transportation just to make fun I figure they also do not know Africa like my own ignorance so I never was offended.
@@williamdevonish4266for example It is almost you go other country asking you on paper are you kinky hair? Even through you have kinky hair you will be shocked and answer no I am African American, just to give you an example.
Come on she is not that expressive, this what we call bias lol. If u ask I think that British boy very calculated young man although I hate his ideas that has elements of truth. So my friend plz Ethiopian girl, she isn’t that defer from Indian. Plz do the justice
Bully: snatches your child.
You: hay, that's my child, leave him
Bully: okay, but when you're ready for him.
I'll send him to you GadUaLly.
If you’re not ready for the child yet- that’s a great solution. CPS does it all the time for the welfare of the children.
@@user-yk5lv8iw8xyou come home snatches whole of the wealth ( 45 trillion dollars), kill innumerous people, destroy their livelihood, and then say you're not ready for independence yet.
Irony killed itself and died a thousand deaths.
@@hustler212 Dude, did you just blow smoke up that ass? 45 trillion? 🤣 Have you been to any of these countries? What’s the condition in India- except piggy backing off of the infrastructure laid by Britishers. He goes on to explain why it would be disastrous for the existing governance body / acting military to just leave. It would be utter chaos. Take Nigeria for example. Their own corruption and people have kept them poor. See what’s happening in Afghanistan.
@@user-yk5lv8iw8x 45 trillion is the actual wealth the fucking British imperialists looted from India in 190 years of British rule.
@@CoolMan-jh1rr Get over it man. If your forefathers had guns and ammunition- they wouldn’t lose to ones who had those. Whole of human history is about factions winning against each other. Too bad that you are on the losing side.
Proud of both girls for speaking out without fear against discrimination & racism.
Indian: give independent to Kenya
British: wait I am not finished my looting (true)
😂😂😂 true bro even in this speech he said 10 years but they haven't gave independence untill 1975
@@chintasantoshr-4124 was actually 1964
@@chintasantoshr-4124 nah it was in December 12 1963 and well they exploited the country a lot in 10 years
I like how they discuss with calm about these sensitive issues. The two girls discussing here were very impressive. The Norwegian I think he means what today we call Norwegians from North (nord norge).
Imagin this was before civil right movement.
Curious to know if there is still discrimination against nord norge today.
@@zZE94 Samis are still discriminated in Norway
@@gwailou5 how?
@@zZE94 not nord Norge but samis and immigrants yes
My God the British and his arrogance! To see their understanding in our times is just mind blowing despite learning about this through history. And to even think that some still hold these understandings to this day!
yeahh that time all brits student think colonialism is a 100% good thing
7:32 He speaks on the stance of the government(siding with it) and the perspective of the whites who are staying at those colonized nations or whites in general(not his own). He later speaks on the value of the native’s culture and should not be westernized. Meaning he’s aware that westernizations could jeopardize the native’s culture. He’s for integration, against racism and segregation. Some people just don’t have great listening skills, further impaired when they’re already biased. Which basically makes them only hear what they want to hear which is typically out of context things that appear to be negative.
@@ggJin let me waste my few seconds on a lost cause. Who the heck gave him the right to go to someone's land and dictate how things should be? They shouldn't be there in the first place. That is the issue not that he is for preserving the natives culture or all the other things you talk of. He is saying that the natives are illiterate and need to be educated to be on the same level with the white settlers, to be integrated. Who the heck does that and still try to find a meaning out of that? You go to someone's land, the land they have lived on for hundreds and thousands of years, take it and put them in a gated village where they are only allowed to leave and work on the farms they stole from them in the first place? You can't find any justification from what he says because the foundation comes from the thinking that we(whites)are better and they(natives/blacks) need our help to be better.
@@mitinanash3321 Going there was wrong but now that we are there how is living during that time going to help them ?
@@wildturkey3776 ohh please i dont know abt other countries but in India 3000 to 3500 years in indus valley civilisation people already adopted democratic ways and moreover we were happy with king's rule in some part as those kings were really capable theres no leader now who match the level of our king from maharashtra state in india and along the time the countries were fated to be democratic coz of diversity in cultures race and this isnt abt just one country but all of them where these british invaded and looted the land and its resources
Also, I love the fact that these delegates are upholding a certain level of reverence for each other despite debating on topics with the scope of extreme disagreement. I can imagine how such a healthy discussion could turn into severely heated arguments today. All in all, it was beautiful!
I like how the Norway guy sat down with the black students in the cafeteria while the other students isolated them…..23:50
The Indian girl is on fireee!
@@youtubeillegallydeletesacc1525 ?
@@inessant1559 He's racist
I have watched so much of this kind of discussions where Ethiopians were part of the discussion but this girl has impressed me very much . I’m proud being an Ethiopian
Me too
I think this pauses a good question for the ethiopians who think they are white. The Ethiopian girl is so intelligent and so aware of who she is.
@@ronaldlord5166 Those Ethiopians do not think they are white. They are heavily misinformed due to propaganda, what separates these
Ethiopians and the brain-washed ones is having a true sense of pride that Ethiopians naturally have when western ideologies
are not involved. This is also prevalent in Ethiopians who practice christianity, they seem to be extremely patriotic.
@@aightimmaheadout7484 EXACTLY, me and my family were having a maraton of these videos and were just in shocked when the last ethiopian boys said that they were arabs or sun burned hebrews.
Separating themselves from their blackness cus they feel superior to west africans and african americans
@@ronaldlord5166 why do so many people keep saying Ethiopians think they are white/non-black/non-African? That is so far from the truth and idk where y'all got it from. I am Ethiopian, I came from Ethiopia, all of my family is from Ethiopia and none of my community members say that. Ethiopians know they are Africans, they know they are black but what they REFUSE to be classified is by the negative racial stereotypes that people put unfairly onto black people, which is 100% fair and a good amount of black people refuse to identify by it too. They refuse to identify with the concepts of "illiteracy", "vandalism", " poverty", etc. Just because Ethiopians don't identify with those negative tropes does not mean they don't acknowledge the fact they are Africans. We are literally one of the oldest African nations and take pride in that. We also acknowledge we are fall into the black category in societies where other ethnicies exist (whites, Latinos, Asians, etc.). We just refuse to identify with the negativity that some people try to attach to that label.
Edit: also, the Ethiopian community isn't a monolith. If you heard one or two Ethiopians saying something ridiculous, their opinion don't reflect the identify of the whole so please don't assume all of our identities by the opinions of the weird few😅
What an unbelievably inspiring video. If only world had listened to this all those years ago…
The indian girl seems the main character over here idk why😅...she seems so cool & knows what's happening.Her presence making me think if this is real or a netflix movie scene😵!
The Ethiopian girl is also amazing!🙌
I'm proud of the Ethiopian girl!
I agree with you and the Indian girl!
@@Daniman_Ethio That's so cool to know I wondered what ever became of these kids . I wonder if she goes to my church I go to any tewahedo church
@@Daniman_Ethio wow is she alive?
Sucks to see the other whitewashed fools tho..
@@Lomi-Wuha Most of them are in their 70s to mid 80s so most of them are very much alive.
The ethiopian girl is impressive..she made strong and factual arguments
She got owned because what the British dude was saying was and is the right path.
@@wildturkey3776 owned? Did you watch the video? You also have the profile picture of a man who has said degrading things about women and other prejudice things about minorities. I'm not expecting you to say anything literate
@@wildturkey3776 As another person said already, did you even watch the video? And what specific "path" are you referring to?
@@wildturkey3776 who still says “owned” loool grow up
This is such a rich conversation and it's crazy to think that even then issues of now are still being discussed. Things never really change do they?
Mostly here in our home country
1:50 "i never expected american teenagers to be working hard at school"
LMAO SOME THINGS NEVER CHANGE like americas image
I proud of indian woman.. Nalini.. She is truly represents young Bharat... She is intelligent... Calm, Confident ,Brave & Smart....which all Educated Hindu... 🚩🚩🇮🇳🇮🇳🙏🙏
Well, am being an INDIAN proud of 👍
Mam Nalini talks about these situations bravo speech by her 👏👏👏👏
South Indian ❤️stop bringing religion into it idiot
@@gurubalu6677
But it's apparently okay to bring north and south into it. I see
Whatsup with the religion
@@gurubalu6677 she is just indian no matter south , north ,east or west . So according to you Bringing 'south' indian is ok and bringing religion is not ok 😂. Neither Religion should be here nor part of India she belongs to should be here . She is just INDIAN
I so proud of my Ethiopian girl and girl from India👍
The fact they're all high schoolers is so shocking like they're all so well spoken and well informed on so many topics, I feel like most high schoolers now wouldn't be nearly as educated or articulate 😭
Wow.....The Ethiopian girl and Indian girl defending her nation and Kenya while wearing her traditional culture is so powerful..
The Ethiopian girl had given an impressive remark, and being an independent nation had helped her to freely express her self as a young girl. She was also asking for the Kenyan independence at that time. She had given a substantial comments about the racism at the time, and she also given a good implication how the prejudice can affect others without their knowledge.
Over all, all of them had a wonderful discussion.
These two young women are awesome!! And these videos are soooo eye opening for me. Thank you for sharing them!
These debates are profound. So smooth and polite. As much as they're against each other's arguments, they're all the more inclusive of each other's opinions and new information. For instance, when the Ethiopian girl talks about the development of Education in her country, the others are attentive and welcoming. It is truly unfortunate that such debates don't take place any longer.
"One cannot just give them a high school education after they have been illiterate for thousands of years" - John
Throughout this debate, I do agree John has given some valid points, but this is just outright wrong. I think that John thinks that just because Kenyans were not literate in his language that they must not have any knowledge at all, deeming languages like Swahili as less educated or rich than English. I'm sure he gets this idea from capitalism and white supremacy, but this isn't all his fault - it's just what he was taught.
As a British Indian, I have noticed that this prejudice and lack of knowledge of the past has not been learned from. I used to love history, but when I got to high school I realised that it was all written from only one perspective - the whites. I remember coming into a history lesson and my teacher telling us we were going to learn about slavery and the colonisation of India. I was ecstatic as I had hundreds of points to make, and knowledge to share. But the lesson completely took my naïve self by surprise. The curriculum stated that the British brought stability, money and railways to India.
They thought it was a better idea to educate the young British generation about trains rather than the suffering they inflicted on the Indians.
I remember vividly storming up to my history teacher at the end of class and demanding that the curriculum should be changed. I vented and raged to him about all the slavery and abuse that the British did and I remember shouting about how they r*ped Indian women, leaving them to die and how they had no respect for our culture, trying to re-educate us in a way that they thought was the only way. Their way.
My history teacher was a white, British man. He sat and listened to me patiently, nodding and agreeing with my statements. When I had finished, he looked at me and told me I was right. That history IS only taught from the white perspective, it IS made to make the British look better and that everything that I was saying should be taught and recognised. But he also told me that as much as he'd like to change the curriculum, it most probably wouldn't be, as people are more concerned - like they always were, no matter how much they say they've changed - about their public image.
I was so emotionally drained that I couldn't reply.
He didn't tell me to disregard my views and just learn what I'm told I'm supposed to, but that having strong opinions were crucial to survive in this world of cruelty and that you will be stepped on without them. He told me to stick with them and fight with them and maybe one day that that would change the history books.
I live by that now.
I have found that I have grown to be a very opinionated, strong, young woman and I am proud of that and my heritage. I have also found that I have a strong affinity towards debating. I'm sharing this in the hopes that whoever reads this doesn't succumb to anyone else because they view themselves and their views as superior to yours.
If you believe in something, fight for it.
Beautiful comment to read
"I was so emotionally drained that I couldn't reply". Happens to me when I argue with Indian Anglophiles!
White british man?? You mean a british man??? Real british are white, you obviusly are happy to take the citizenship of your colonizers, stop saying white british
So do you think that all views about an objective matter are all equally valid?
@@breakfree1111 That's a very broad statement what do you mean by that?
Love Ethiopian and Indian ladies ❤️❤️❤️
Id love to hear these two white guys talk today.. Total respect to the beautiful Etheopian and Indian ladies 💓
@CL Wil totally! And as a white priveldged female this has to stop!
@@pippagatz stfu you attention seeker
@@h.k.295 But you are one
@CL Wil White privilege doesnt exist
@CL Wil When the two girls are "aware" of racism, then why is india and kenya so racist today and norway is not?
This is the most patient and polite debate I've ever heard and seen
These youngsters are all so incredibly well spoken. I really enjoyed watching this
Moral: Colonial apologists will go to any lengths to justify colonial wrongdoings and to pass them off as being for upliftment of the uncivilized natives.
Colonialism did had alot of good affects though, for example it basically ended the arabslave trade
Lol it replaced it with Atlantic slave trade. Something much worse
“Uncivilized”
@@Komnenos83 what is wrong with you?
@@Komnenos83 there are still slaves in arab states so…not that successful.
14:55 Ethiopian girl is 🔥. She is an advocate ready to administer change. The Indian girl too.
These are so good. A window into a different time altogether. They should revive these student exchanges
It gives me chills when I think, they might not be there in this world anymore. They might be around 82 years of age. They might be alive or dead. I would have loved to see where they are in their lives, what did they do afterwards? Is it just me who is getting curious about where they are in their lives?
I hear someone say that the Ethiopian Girl is a cardiologist and is somewhere between 70-80 (72 or 74 I think)
so much.. my Curiosity of their progress would be amazing.
Nalini Nair should be 84 by now, but I don't think she is alive because she suffered through breast cancer at some point in her life...
@@Athenabadassinthearena she's 80 now but you're right
@@frustratedaf5349 sadly, she died in 2011.
Despite whatever is happening recently, proud to be an Ethiopian!
Me tooo
I agree, but there is nothing to be proud to be an Ethiopian anymore. Our country is in a big trouble.the country that people get killed because of their ethnical-and beliefs background, and displaced from the place they lived for decades.we are just full of foolish pride without nothing. All we do is pointing at others and each other for the nation’s failure instead of unity and love, our country is a very low label on economy, national security, safety. Let’s drop the pride for now , because it does not make sense!!
@@yennygebre9216 You're certain my brother/sister, but being an Ethiopian has nothing to do with the problems created by us, I mean like it's not what we have been creating since some several years but it's natural and inevitable! So I barely get anything from the perspective how you defined and described it. Still proud to be an Ethiopian!!
Me too!!
@@yennygebre9216 there was a moment called zemene mesafinet in Ethiopia were each state had there own leaders people always fighting for the throne and yet we passed that moment and became one. our unity made us the only country in Africa that wasn't colonized the only country that celebrates victory day adwa when other African countries celebrates indepandance day our unity is a storm that stands high like a tower and could wash over the plans of our enemy's so the so called developed countries would do anything to pull as down I tell you we're having many problems because we're gonna rise the youth and the teen's like me are being educated about there country by themselves and I tell you I'm in high school and there is not a day we pass by with out talking about our country and even try to do projects on things that could help our country Ethiopia.. so bruh u should be proud of our country we haven't yet known about the secret of our country we will rise just don't let the media and people talking all around about hate and racism keep u from being proud and loving your people love y'all
THE ETHIOPIAN GIRL 😍
She is 78 yrs old and cardiologist in calofornia you see how time flies
@@holbrook-ul9cf are u kidding me?
@@leulekalzeleke7490 yes sure this video is 62 years ago she was then 17 years old do the maths now
The level of communication was so decent. Nalini and the Kenyan woman both are so intelligent, perceptive, patient and really good orators.
Kudos To The Indian Girl....She Been So Savage Toward The British Boy's Hypocritical Answers On Her Question
The Ethiopian girl is smartest , well informed and the most beautiful girl I have ever seen in my life represented her country very well . What an outstanding young woman. Much deserved love and respect ❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏
The Ethiopian girl truly reflects the high level of education we had in Ethiopia during that glorious period! All of us must hurry now more than ever before to reclaim that glory.
Glory of what? Not being able to feed your self ever? Ethiopia is known for nothing but starvation throughout its history. ቀፎ።
@@luk-man7889 you could have expressed yourself without the insult , you are the typical byproduct of the Tplf corrupted generation ...didn’t you notice the pride that the Ethiopian girl had when she said that we were never colonized , that is what it means to be Ethiopian ..
@@luk-man7889 tebeda banda
@@mikot4439 should I give you a lesson in Ethiopian history? Maybe not, because all they thought you falsehood and you will be shocked. The truth hurts.
Instead of being proud of emperor who abandoned his people and ran off only to take refuge in a London apartment, thank PM. Winston Churchill who bail him out and handed him the country back.
@@user-xc9gd2el6v ባንቺ? በጭራሽ አይሆንም።
Proud of Nalini Nair! and I'm sure she's a South Indian Malayali which makes me even prouder :)
Malayali😃
Malayali 😍🔥
I just loved the way Nalini speakes and her smile is soo alluring ... .. moreover , I loved seeing the reaction of uk when India directly talked about Kenyan independence .
I really respect the courage of nalini and the Ethopian girl 🌼
😌😌😌😌 my Ethiopian girl thank u I love u my dear
The Indian and Ethiopian girls did well with their points
Thanks for uploading this.. Respect 🙌
I believe John was trained to answer the question about Kenyas independence. Same answer was given to Africans when they asked for their art back, they were told they would not know how to take care of their own art
I am very proud of the Ethiopian girl she is so intelligent and proud in her skin. I just watched the other debates but the young Ethiopian boys were not informed, when they said Amhara is better than other ethnic tribes in Ethiopia and we are the lost tribe of Israel. I was very disappointed, because I am more than two Ethiopian ethnicities. This kind of false pride caused the problems happening right now in Ethiopia.
I agree! I was also so shocked when he said 'We are lost tribes of Israel' I don't know who taught him'
@@yonathankidane2149 😀😀 he was blubber mouth with no knowledge
amharas are the lost tribe that is his opinion who are you to tell Amharas what to think? You have a problem with Amharas having pride tell my why Lake Tana is in their region then? the whole horn will be benefiting from Amhara peoples water you complexiam keep your our tribe name out of your racist mouth
@Abyssinia 024 Hey there, what can I say? This is just ridiculous!! You judged my ethnicity right from my name, I guess so. However, I am Amhara ethnicity though I am ashamed to tell someone who has a blinded and screwed way of judging people. Don't judge a book by its cover. Above all, we are humans. Again, I can assure you my stance on the original topic that I don't believe we, AMHARAS are lost tribes of Israel. እኛ አማራዎች ነን እንጂ ከእስራኤል ነገድ አይደለንም። Thanks.
@Abyssinia 024 You are lost and make amhara's look bad. We do not have an OUNCE of blood from any other country, we are purely Ethiopian. There is always the exception of intermingling but it does not reflect on the Ethiopian civilization. This is purely western propaganda in order to divide the tribes of Ethiopia to feel that they are superior to one another. That is exactly how our country will fall if we continue to believe in ideologies that come from thin air. I myself am amhara and I have never once thought of myself as superior to any other tribe because then I would be betraying my moral compass. I refuse to believe in such lies and I suggest you do more unbiased research.
3:11 Excellent statement by the girl from Ethiopia. Any segregation present in the United States whether North or South is seen as having discrimination in the country as a whole by Africans who view it from the outside of the continent.
Iam so impressed by this conversation of my parents generation ..they are socially so responsible ...hope we were educated in the same manner .......we could not have so many absconders and polarizers ....who left this country leaving millions of debts and killing democracy by polarizing citizens on basis of caste, religion etc
10:30: sharp question and a sharper and brutal rebuttal , worth emulating !
I am very proud of our representative, an Ethiopian girl. She is so decent and humble to express her stands free of any inferiority. She knows well what independence is and tries to fight for other black peoples as her forefathers have been doing. This is the essence of being an Ethiopian.
Love this channel so much!
Well done Nalini 👍 you were awesome. So calm, respectful and precise 🙏🙏
We have a long way to go but human progress is generational. I think it's changing in my lifetime, i am proud of the unity I've seen so far and I'm excited to see more harmony among the raves and cultures on earth. The fact that these people are talking in one room shows the small steps that were taken in the past.
I am so proud the beautiful Ethiopian girl and the Indian girl debates.
I wonder where the Ethiopian, girl now. 🤔
I feel like to do a High school, .reunion for them and host the debates.😁
I hope and wish all of them are well also succeed in life. 🙏🇪🇷
The host obviously won’t be alive now. But they really SHOULD conduct a reunion with whoever is left from the student group!
She is now a cardiologist practicing In california
This video talks volumes ! It’s disheartening to see not much has changed of the world, decades later. To see such hope in the youth of yesterday, I wonder how they turned out and hope they weren’t disappointed with the world !
Interesting how similar conversations are still happening.
Thank you for uploading these discussions.
The ethiopian was really beautiful wow
Compliment her intelligence pls.. this is not a modeling contest idiot
I am proud of the Ethiopian 🇪🇹🇪🇹 girl
WoW my Ethiopian sister proud of you.
me too
I like this conversation. They all had a chance to learn from each other. I think the boy from the UK doesn't quite understand what they are saying, though I understand his confusion being as that has been what he has been told since he was little. I think they brought up good points. I hope that the UK boy was able to learn more after this interview.
As a Kenyan watching the ignorance of the British guy was offensive and sad at the time because he genuinely believed that they were helping us. I really respect Nilini for keeping a clear head because I'm not sure I would have done the same if I were in her place. The Indians were just as affected as the tribes in Kenya during the colonization, especially since they were forced to provide labor for the Kenya- Uganda railway even though there was no promise of any long term benefits for them. I also don't believe the fact that the British didn't have any other intentions aside from 'helping' the tribes, which, mind you, survived just fine in the centuries before the whites came in,
You say that, but the Arabs were pillaging the land before the British arrived. Obviously British policies in Kenya were horrid in the 50s, but they were closely guarded secrets, and the government of the time hid it from even the Royal Family. You are right that the boy didn't know about these policies but to call him ignorant as though he had any way of knowing otherwise is kind of unfair
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