Main Timing Chain Tensioner Replacement (Nissan 350Z & Infiniti G35) | AnthonyJ350
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- Is your Nissan 350Z or Infiniti G35 throwing codes related to timing or there is more rattle under the hood? Your timing chain tensioner may need replacement. In this video we go over the basic procedures to accomplish the part replacement.
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Main Timing Chain Tensioner Replacement (Nissan 350Z & Infiniti G35) | AnthonyJ350
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I have a de and had start up rattle. De’s had a crappy tensioner. 05+ had the revised one. I got the revised tensioner and it helped with the start up rattles a ton. I found using 10 weight oil vs. 5, helps with the start up rattles.
Thanks for sharing your experience! Are you using a 10W30 or a 10W40?
Going to attempt this now from your video! Have a 05 Vert (DE non rev-up) and a good 1-2 second rattle at cold start. Looks like they ‘hold oil’ to keep pressure and mine is loosing that pressure to quick. Any issues come back after just doing the primary??
Those CHEAP ASS GUIDES THAT ALWAYS BREAK IN MY 05 6SPEED MAXIMA SAME ISSUES ALWAYS
@@johng8888 Did you buy the one made in Japan?
@@AnthonyJ350 I actually still had the one that I took off LOL I took off the original one and didn't even think about it because I was assuming always replace the internal parts but like a ding dong I totally forgot I just got got a JDM motor and the one that's on there can never break because it's two separate pieces of plastic it's actually badass so I'm ripping it apart as we speak and I'm putting back the one from Japan
I just realized your engine is a Revup lol 👍🏼
Doing this requires alot of patience. The last time I did this I almost dropped the 10mm bolt inside the timing cover. Just getting your thumbs to reinstall the tensioner was annoying.
You just realized this now?! Lol, how long have you been watching my stuff??? 😆
It was such a pain pulling the chain back to get the new tensioner in. Hats off to the mechanics that do this daily in a timely fashion.
@@AnthonyJ350 I think I'm losing my mind a bit and needs some preventative maintenance haha. I've known your Zed specs all these years. Ironically I also own a revup 07 G coupe but it's been sitting without a battery.
Hey Anthony, I am going to try this after watching your video so thank you! Do I need to put the engine at top dead center before I start or would it be wise to use the tdc marks ? I just don't want to mess it up. It's my first time messing with timing and I want to do the water pump too since I am in there. So again, do I start at tdc? Would it be wise to start there?
It won't hurt to start there. Make sure to secure the wheels because you might need to put the transmission in neutral to turn the engine over from the crank pulley. Also disconnect the negative battery terminal.
Also, if your tensioner is not all the way extended out, which if it was, your timing would probably be off at that point then it may be in between clicks and it’s backing off to the nearest tooth and giving you that rattle without putting too much tension try to get another click
Thanks for the comment!
Would you recommend getting the cloyes kit?
Get OEM
Do you need to reset timing when replacing water pump ?
Verify in the service manual
Excellent job!!
Thanks for watching 🙂
hey anthony, i pulled the old timing chain tensioner out with no problem, (didn’t even have to turn the crank) but i’m having trouble fitting the new tensioner in place to bolt it down. it seems as if i can’t pull the timing chain back far enough to get the bolt holes lined up with the new tensioner. any suggestions?
In the video I describe and show the tool I used to pull it over. You can also turn the crank a little to get more slack
@@AnthonyJ350 i can turn the crank with the tensioner out??
@@e.j.houston3565 Not much just a little to relieve tension off the chain
@@AnthonyJ350 do you have to put the crank back in same spot?
@@sunnyjudd5946 If you can, you DON'T want the chain to feel really tight when you start it. You can also try rotating the crank fully but don't force it. Car needs to be in neutra, so make sure you secure the wheels.
What can I do if the time chain tensioner gasket is stuck ? I’m having issues trying to get the cover off to get to the tensioner ☹️ is there anything I can try to get the gasket off ? Also the cover is covered with nasty debris, what can I use to get it off with out any particles falling into my car parts ?
Clean the cover off with an all purpose cleaner and get it clean before you take off the cover. I show a tool I used to pry it off.
Why did you replace your timing tensioner to begin with?
Was chasing a rattle. It seems I found the noise being caused by the VVT control solenoid in a later video.
Maybe this question i have been mentioned already... But Is there a possibility for the chain to jump out of time if i replace the chain tensioner?
I don't think so
Anthony. Do you have a video on replacing the whole timing chain? I’ve been doing a lot of maintenance on my 05 G35 and I think a new chain is going to be next. The car has 160K on it and I have no idea what the previous owner did.
No sorry I do not.
I have a question will a G 35 start with the pedal all the way to the floor or does that put it in a mode where itll crank but not start? I was just wondering if that could be a legitimate way to prime the tensioners before letting off the pedal and actually starting the vehicle to avoid the one second chain rattle j/c…
Out of curiosity what brand of tensioner did you reinstall
It was an O.E. one. Parts like this don't risk quality with aftermarket.
Hey had this car got a cold start rattle? Did the replacement tensioner get rid of it?
No it didn't have the cold start rattle. If it does, it probably needs a timing chain job.
What's the mileage and how often does the oil get changed?
Anthony, im getting a rattle at startup and turn off, and strictly at 2750rpm up. i swore up and down it was rodknock but all my local 350z enthusiasts are saying its this tensioner. i havent got any metal in the Oil and i even dropped the oil pan to see if there was anything in there. Im a bit anxous to attempt this in the car on my own. does this sound like a noise that could occur from this tensioner? what caused you to desire to replace it?
Could be. Like I said in the video the car was making a knock at idle that used to go away then didn't. I would also try Castrol 5W40 synthetic in the car and replace the VVT solenoids with OEM ones. Best to change the solenoids, run the engine to test, then change the oil. ua-cam.com/video/WnUObIdmyho/v-deo.html
If it still does it, then look into the tensioner.
Just started to get a horrible rattle/grind noise which i first thought was a blow from the exhaust manifold. After doing some research it’s highly likely its the timing chain being slack. My Z is almost at 100k is it worth trying this or just getting the chains replaced?
You can try this. If it's still the same result and you plan to own the car for a while, get the chain replaced. Also consult your mechanic and their opinion.
@@AnthonyJ350 ok thankyou
Hi I just bought a 07 altima with a 3.5 and it rattles ONLY on cold start ups. Do you think it could be as easy changing this main tensioner?
Try change the oil you're using to this and see if anything changes ua-cam.com/video/5Nmxi0du8-Q/v-deo.html
Perhaps you can help me. I use my 2002 Tahoe with spring and Moog HD for work but sometimes when the load is more than 650 kg. their hardness is not enough. I am thinking of the airlift 1000 or Timbren and I don’t know which one to choose. What do you think? I am afraid the Airlift will not withstand temperatures below -30 Celsius. Thank you in advance)
Timbren is nice because there's virtually no maintenance. Do you need the adjustability with Airlift?
Going to attempt this now from your video! Have a 05 Vert (DE non rev-up) and a good 1-2 second rattle at cold start. Looks like they ‘hold oil’ to keep pressure and mine is loosing that pressure to quick. Any issues come back after just doing the primary??
Mine seemed to be good still when I pulled it out. It took a lot to bleed the oil out. I'm chasing a noise and I think it's my VVT solenoid. My noise happens after a couple minutes.
Let us know how your swap goes.
@@AnthonyJ350 will do! Let me know if you get to the bottom of yours as well! Appreciate the video Anthony!
@@mattgrant4143 Ya hopefully in January I'll have time to swap that part and make a video for you guys. Just make sure to keep changing your pil regularly, and change it after the tensioner job.
Did replacing the tensioner fix that rattle on a cold start?
Hi sir ı replace the tensioner but ı didnt marked anything right now my friends say you have to be marked the tensioner position right now what i will do can ı put it back or screw it its enough or nah ? Because they told me ıf you are put it back any position you can lock the engine
Mark the timing chain or belt tensioner?
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So if I was to order this part that would be the left upper tensioner right?
It's the main tensioner. Its in the middle.
Hello, any help will do I have a pinging sound when in park, kind of sounds like a knock but when I put it in drive it goes away it’s an 06 auto. Any ideas what it could be also doesn’t make the sound when cold started but after warming and putting it in park it’s makes the noise. Timing chain as well?
I honestly have no idea. I doubt it's the timing chain. I would have your local trusted mechanic listen to it.
My car makes a rattle noise when i turn the car on only for 3 seconds by changing the tensioner will fix that ?
It might, if the car is high mileage you might want to have a mechanic do it and possible change the chain.
What happens if something does fall into that housing? I had an incredible rattling noise and I already had a hunch that the tensioner was at fault. I was right and when I took it out, I noticed the detent pin and spring were missing. The pin that was supposed to hold those things was stuck out about 1.5" out the side of the tensioner upon removing the cover. So the detent pin and spring (that is supposed to click the cylinder) is missing. I can only assume it is in my engine but I don't know where it went. It didn't go out the intake system and it hasn't made it through my cylinders yet, so where exactly are they? I looked with a flashlight but didn't see anything. I know it was fine originally because I installed a new tensioner 5 months ago when I did the water pump. So did it make it to my oil filter? Or is it in my oil pan? I don't know what to remove to find that spring and detent pin. I got the main tensioner out with the cylinder and all that, but there's no spring and detent pin. A new one has been installed for the time being. I do not want those pieces in a place that I don't know if will cause harm
You'll have to pull the timing cover and oil pan off to search for it.
Very nice video Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
i was thinking about buying an 05 Enthusiast model and they said it has a timing chain click when starting so im wondering if its this, or the other two now
You can try changing the oil to Castrol 5W40 synthetic first and see if that helps. For all you know, it could be low on oil.
@@AnthonyJ350 i gotta get the cash first lol guess we'll see if its still there by the time i get the cash !
if not then its okay, i already have 3 vehicles 😅😅😅
@@marleensrain Hope you get the car!
Did you fix the cold start rattle with this? Any update?
Starts good if this tensioner is the culprit. I also run 5W40 Castrol synthetic. ua-cam.com/video/5Nmxi0du8-Q/v-deo.htmlsi=eCI01ceDXogcXvcV
do i have to remove the belt to access the tensioner or can i do it without removing the belt
Makes it easier
@@AnthonyJ350 do you recommend when I swap my belts to replace the tensioner or can I leave it and swap it out later
@@obsrob1810 If you don't remember the last time the belts were changed, I'd change both. They're cheap to purchase
What made you change the tensioner? I have not seen it in the FSM for any interval for changing the tensioner
Never mind. I found a simliar question and an answer. Thanks for these videos over the years. Made my life easier working on my Z. Swapping my transmission from cd000 to cd00A and installing the Nismo LSD GT Pro LSD in the upcoming week!
@@PhilJue That's awesome! Would love to know how it drives after! I'll be hopefully doing a header video this year so stay tuned!
Heey! I got a 350z from 2005 (32.000km) and mine is making a rattle sound as well when starting up for 1-2 sec. They say it’s my time chain tensioner but how is that possible with such low km?
Improper maintenance possibly. Try changing to Castrol 5W40 synthetic ua-cam.com/video/5Nmxi0du8-Q/v-deo.html
Congratulations finding a 350Z with such low mileage too!
Thanks! I’ll try with the next oil change. Is it worth it to change te tct? I hear that it’s a lot of work but I never want to get rid of the car :)
@@jerreljonker9105 If it's malfunctioning yes and your chain should be fine with that low of mileage. But try the oil first. If the oil comes out really dirty you might want to do a premature oil change again to get all the crude out and change the filter again.
If the tensioner doesn't want to come out on it's own, which way do I rotate? opposite from normal rotation?
Rotate the crank so it relieves tension.
@@AnthonyJ350 got it out and replaced. Thank you
@@dipu827 Nice job! I would follow up with an oil change after you've verified operation.
Did you set it to tdc before you started?
I just left it where I shut it off. When I finished I just put the pulley back where I started. Didn't want to start the engine with a bunch of tension on the chain.
Excellent tutorial😎🖖🏼 Very helpful. THANKS!!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the torque specs!
Does this have to be done at TDC on #1?
Refer to your service manual.
More 350 videos!
You watched all my older videos?! We're trying to bring more content for you guys. Need to finish up the home shop a bit more before we can get some more 350Z content for you guys.
09 nissan maxima has a rattle 1 second rattle on the cold start any recommendations
Try Castrol 5W40 Synthetic to see if anything sounds better. Might need to try the tensioner after, but if the car is high mileage you might need to have a mechanic change the chain and the tensioners.
@@AnthonyJ350 has 100700 miles and it started maybe 4k miles ago, might try the tensioner job, the video was done on a 35de ?
@@Kxwr Video was done on a DE
Out of interest did you have a chain rattle on yours before you made the change? Noticed any improvement?
I have a little but I think it's coming from my driver side actuator for the variable valve timing. Only happens after a minute or 2 after I start it and it warms up a little. When I first start, it's smooth.
@@AnthonyJ350 thanks man, yeah I have for like .2 seconds on startup think my tensioner is seeping pressure when the car stands... useful video! Thanks!
@@joelgoacher1643 What oil are you using in the car?
@@AnthonyJ350 5w40 now I think, good oil and pressures are all fine
@@joelgoacher1643 ok right on
Can the tensioner cause rattle on certain rpms too?
It's possible, what's happening?
@@AnthonyJ350 When I leave it on 2500rpms it makes a rattle sound. If lower or higher rpm, there's no sound. Also a slight rattle on cold startup too.
@@xxkazu78 What oil are you using? And when was the last time you checked the level?
@@AnthonyJ350 I'm using Penrite 10w40 semi synthetic. Dipstick reads around 3/4 full. Last check 2-3 days ago
@@xxkazu78 Try Castrol 5W40 synthetic next oil change and see if that makes any difference
y havent u deleted that pulley that is only used on early 2003 models that had mechanical fans
Which pulley? Is there any drag on it or is it an idler pulley? This is a 2006, so if I delete a pulley does the belt stay the same?
Just looked up delete kit, Z1 offers it with a spacer and shorter belt. Thanks for letting me know about this! I'll order it and make a video on it.
also when it’s time to replace ur belt just order one for a 2008 fx35 and its the correct size once the pulley has been deleted
@@ImEnhalos Is that because that vehicle is still a DE platform for that year?
@@AnthonyJ350 not sure if its a de or hr but it fits, thats the belt i'm running on my DE. The 08 FX came from the factory with the spacer and pulley delete that is y it fits once you do the same
no gasket behind the tensioner? makes life easier
Thanks for watching!
Nice video! With these cars, have you experienced the engine fan run on "high" after 20-30 mins of driving and doesn't shut off until I put my heater on full blast
No noticeable coolant leaks on the floor or decrease in coolant level. No over heating on the temp gauge. Water pump replaced. Slight coolant smell. And I do have a small engine valve cover leak on the left side, noticed when I did my spark plug change.
When you say coolant smell what do you mean? What does the gauge read on the car? Should stay about mid or just below
@@joelgoacher1643 Hey Joel thanks for chiming in. The gauge is just under the half. So nothing alarming. I smell a slight hint of sweet coolant smell from the engine when the engine fan is blasting on full. This is noticed only from outside of the car.
Although I do hear a bit of swooshing noise when I accelerate at first to second gear. I've bled the radiator so many times already. Nothing that signifies that there is a blown head gasket.
Have you replaced the thermostat? ua-cam.com/video/rFY3iduvjxM/v-deo.html
@@AnthonyJ350 Yes it was replaced by my mechanic who replaced the radiator as well. Does it sound like it might be that?
I would be inspect and/or replace old coolant hoses first given the age of the vehicle. There are cross over pipes under the car as well to inspect like coming off the oil filter.
Hey, was wondering about the crankshaft pulley part in the video. After you said how to loosen it a little to get some slack in the chain, you never said how you're supposed to tighten it back. Just curious on this part. Trying to replace this part and I'm a little stuck as I can't find any information on the pulley. Any help is appreciated. Thanks
After you get the tensioner in and release the locking pin, if there still isn't enough tension turn the crank pulley the other way. You'll want to rotate it after to make sure everything is lined up.
@@AnthonyJ350 Well we're basically stuck at the last part. The tensioner is in and the pin is pulled we just want to make sure that the timing chain is properly aligned so nothing goes bad and don't exactly know how to do that. We've tried researching it but there's not a lot of information surrounding it.
We have tension I'm just confused about if there is a specific torque or technique to tightening the pulley/chain. Or if there can be too much tension also.
@@instakillers9560 Do you have the wheels secured and the transmission in neutral in order to turn the engine freely?
@@AnthonyJ350 No. We weren't aware we had to do that. Did we mess anything up?
@@instakillers9560 I don't think so, secure the wheels so the vehicle can't move and put it into neutral and see if it turns by hand
Hi Anthony, when and at what mileage you have to replace chain tensioner, water pump and spark plugs?
Technically the timing chain tensioner is just when the chain needs replacement. I would consult the service manual for the other intervals. What's the mileage on your car?
It doesn't say in the manual when timing chain should be replaced. It's a 350z 2003 with only 86000 kilometers.
@@borisstupar5147 Timing chain should be good for 160-200,000KM. Water pumpaune do at 120,000KM. Spark plugs I'd change prematurely everything 60,000km
Thank you bud, I appreciate that!
@@borisstupar5147 You're welcome, those are just estimates. You'll want to consult a service manual like Hanes or call the dealership for info.
Have you ever replaced your water pump?
Not yet
How u know that the timing chain isn’t bad
If it's idling quietly it's most likely fine. Just make sure you're changing your oil regularly.
My sister car went bad but has a start button is bad and need timing chain but it’s at 250k is worth fixing !!! Car has be lowered 1inch from ground
@@jayjb833 How long do you want to own the car for?
Good video. I'm trying to not take the timing cover off AGAIN!, and just reset the plunger and pull my BROKEN! guide up into place 🙏 does anyone think it will work for a bit? Obviously with 2 people one to pull the chain and guide back while I put the tensioner back in.....oh 5ive maxima 666666speed
What happened to the chain guide?
@@AnthonyJ350 I heard it rattling around. AGAIN... They keep breaking. If this ghetto fix doesn't work then I will rip it apart and buy the best timing guides they got . The top piece usually breaks and the plastic piece slides down
@@johng8888 Is it a Nissan part you put in?
@@AnthonyJ350 no I actually bought a jdm motor and TOOK out the original guides and put ebay ones in while I had the motor out, which I wish I wouldn't have done. Only reason I did because the ones prior blew out which were ebay. And original motor prior I blew lol but if all fails and I have to tear it apart I'm going to go find the original guides from Japan and put them in so I get where you're coming from on that
@@johng8888 Ya when it comes to major components, unless you know a brand that produces it for OEM or you know for sure is engineered better than OEM, it's best to stick to original parts for consistency.
The tensioner is meant to last as long as the timing set. The reason for the access cover is for water pump replacement.
Thanks for the feedback.
So if you had a bad tensioner you would change the timing chain as well. Isn't the water pump behind a different access port?
@@AnthonyJ350 You have to access the tensioner to replace the pump.
With proper care the pump could last 200,000 miles. Most people don't understand what proper care really is.
@@NSWNY Someone just said they had to update their 2004 to the 2006 updated tensioner though.
@@NSWNY So if the engine is rattling, don't try to fix it unless I change the chain as well?
I must have missed it, WHY are you changing it?
Had a bit of a rattle (which may be the VVT solenoid). Plus it's a good video topic.
Nice when mine starts up I hear a rattle lol
Could be the tensioner. Does it idle smooth? What oil are you putting in the car?
@@AnthonyJ350 same issue here, mine run smooth and I use pennzoil 5w-30, although I only started hearing this noise after I did it’s oil change not long ago..
@@petersonedmond456 You can try using STP high mileage oil additive.
@@AnthonyJ350 will do, my oil is full, will it hurt to add it as it might overfill slightly or?
@@petersonedmond456 It's ok to add a little as long as you're not overfilled already. Might want to observe your oil pressure before and after.
Do you need to reset timing when replacing water pump ?
Verify in the service manual.