This RARE PROTOTYPE MacBook Pro never made it to production!
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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In today's video I managed to secure a rare prototype MacBook Pro that never made it to final production! We'll go over it's quirks, look into how it was made, and get a rare glimpse behind the scenes at Apple!
Thanks to Apple Demo for brokering the deal and helping me with the information in this video!
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I love the fact that the serial number's font is Comic Sans for some reason
I eh think
Yeah! Why not Arial duh
Harder to read if found in a bar?
Me too xD
@@blrryface Nah, should've used Helvetica obviously :P
Woahhhh! Prototype/concept
how did you get it?
He look likes Ryan the temp in The Office
i have a prototype 2011
Tim Cook a few hours later at his door: "Good Morning!"
🤣🤣🤣 I actually imagined it, he just woke up. Dragged himself to the door and there Timmy is with a big smile on his face. "GOOD MORNING !!!"
@@magnarex dave 2d did this bit
_Tim says:_ Good mornaaang!
I heard this comment
he's just like: oh $h!t.
HP Engineer: "It feels mushy and weird and the tracking is awful"
HP Manager: "Great, ship it!"
I’m 200th like
Apple is just a bunch of perfectionists huddled together.
@@wyattb3138 I wouldn't go that far, the keyboard on my Macbook is strong argument against that, it's a huge compromise of reducing thickness more than anyone ever asked for but at the cost of feel and reliability.
But on the flip side the force trackpad on the same machine is maybe the best trackpad ever made.
@@LaveaFirmis butterfly?
@@superior7387 1st gen ones yeah. They just don't feel right even though I've had it for a while and 'got used to it' and I keep getting stuff stuck underneath them somehow which was never a problem on my 2010 machine.
Rumors say Luke has more Macs than Apple itself…
Change it to legend says right now
Fucking Legend
@@willhoffert3744 we know, what are you trying to say
That’s a fact!!! 😂😂
@@willhoffert3744 Luke Many
You should take it to an apple store for repair...
^^^ Luke I will sub to your onlyfans if you do this plsss
imagine that
Sorry sir we cannot fix something we never sold.
Apple will most likely take it in the back like they are getting a better look, call security, and then come out and say he can't have it back because it doesn't belong to him. It's property of Apple because they didn't sell it. DON'T DO IT!!!
@@brandonspies yep
The Comic Sans was probably the engineering team messing with the design team, likely to get back at them for making the design requirements give the engineers a headache.
Red, haven't seen that motherboard color in a while
I think asus uses the red pcb in their gaming laptops
@@buzzlightyearoh I was so worried. For a sec I thought you made a sus joke
@@dubbynelson some other laptop also uses red pcb
@@dubbynelson aSUS
@@dubbynelson lmfao oh shit
Luke: “Apple won’t care...right?”
FBI: “Open the door!”
I didn't understand what's wrong?
FBI for what?
Ddl Op see the case of leaked iphone 4 prototype
Luke! I was able to install Mavericks on my 2015 15”MBP, and I know exactly what the problem is - surprisingly enough, it isn’t due to being a prototype. When Apple designed the 2015 15” MBP, they changed just the battery, trackpad and keyboard, hardware IDs, and Wi-Fi card. To install, I used an open-source bootloader (OpenCore) to enable graphics acceleration and function keys by patching out the old device-ids and swapping in the corresponding 2014 ones. That’s why the trackpad doesn’t work well; mavericks doesn’t have the multitouch drivers for the force touch trackpad.
The following worked with just patching device-ids (which are used to attach drivers to the hardware):
-Audio
-GPU Acceleration
The following required a simple plist kext to attach the correct drivers:
-Keyboard
What doesn’t work, and probably won’t, unless a driver is written:
-Multitouch gestures (essentially ignores all other inputs)
-Force touch (Mavericks doesn’t have this built in anyways)
-WiFi and bluetooth (I suspect the WiFi card was changed for the 2015 model; no patches or kexts would work, usually throwing a DRAM error in the boot logs)
If you want, I can provide my EFI folder. Other than these issues, everything works, including the machine identification if you add the -no_compat_check boot argument. (Just adding this to the boot plist hangs the machine, because mavericks doesn’t know how to handle the device-id for the gpu, despite being the same as the 2014 MBPs.)
Dm him on Instagram he is not gonna see it hetr
@@youxunliu5904 he might see it if he checks comments and this gets to the top of the comment section.
Actually, I helped OP on Discord with installing and getting the graphics and keyboard (with proper media keys) working.
Audio is easy, you just have to use the correct layout ID, which I cannot remember right now, hopefully OP can say.
Graphics is also easy, you have to patch the framebuffer to have a display output from the iGPU because the iGPU framebuffer kext in Mavericks does not support the ig-platform-id, the Hackintosh community has been doing this for a while and we have two kexts, WhateverGreen and Lilu, to handle this patching cleanly for us. You just have to specify the correct parameters in a Device Properties entry (whether it be by ACPI SSDT or DeviceProperties entry in OpenCore; we do not speak of Clover.) However, I doubt that the framebuffer is going to give much trouble on this machine.
WiFi and Bluetooth are unknown parameters and I am almost certain that the wireless card in this prototype is not the same as the BCM43602 in OP's MacBookPro11,4.
Now, it's time for the elephant in the room; the trackpad. Unless that build of OS X (which I am very keen to find out, please let us know the build number if possible) has development kexts to support the Wellspring9 trackpad, it will not work. The data format and structure of the Wellspring9 trackpad (that is the codename for the Force Touch trackpad used in the 2015 MacBook Pro refresh) has changed slightly to accommodate pressure sensitivity data, this isn't too much of a hurdle if someone is willing to make an actual kext that handles that data format and structure (which I was about to do for the OP, but I stopped short because I had run out of time).
I'm also very interested to see if we can get some kind of filesystem dump and/or IOReg dump from the machine.
Thinks it’s best just to leave it as it. There’s no point trying to install retail Mac OS on prerelease hardware.
@@lachlanbrown8110 Upon further investigation, that machine appears to be running a retail build of Mavericks anyway. The build number for the OS is 13F34, which is the initial public build for 10.9.5 before any security patches; furthermore, the build dates for the kernel and AppleKeyStore kext shown in Single-user Mode match exactly the dates and times for 10.9.5. All prototype and in-developement kexts and/or software are likely irretrievably lost.
But, just to provide some more tidbits of information:
The system model identifier is set to a prototype identifier in the SMBIOS (ofc, because this machine has prototype firmware running, however a retail OS), that is why the Mac modal image that shows which Mac you have in About This Mac shows a generic image of a Cinema Display. This is also why no other versions of OS X install, because they check for the model identifier. Mavericks was installed on this machine one of two ways, by adding the "-no_compat_check" boot-arg, or by deleting the "PlatformSupport.plist" file in "/System/Library/CoreServices".
The processor appears as a "2 GHz Intel Core i5" because the Apple-specific Processor Type SMBIOS field in DMI type 131 is improperly set to 0x0605 (after all this is a prototype board).
As for the memory, that's also probably wrongly displayed due to incorrect data in the Memory Device SMBIOS fields in DMI type 17.
Also, I have to contradict my first reply, it most likely is a BCM43602 like in the OP's MacBookPro11,4.
As a collector of some old tech devices, I can relate to Luke’s interest on this prototype. It’s really cool,
although not very usable.
I love the red motherboard… however the black ones look sleeker
Aesthetics matter.
Red means beta in Apple land.
@@MaddTheSane read means alpha.
tbh I wish some models shipped with the red board. Albeit it would look weird when everything else is black and the board itself is red, but it would look pretty cool!
some iBooks in the past shipped with PVT prototype boards, so there could be a possibility that such a thing might exist and isn't documented. However, I don't think the PVT models used black boards.
Watching this reminded me of when I came across a similar situation. A friend of mine was having trouble with her eMac (yes eMac - an all in one with CRT produced for the education market). It turns out her brother was an engineer with Apple and had sent it to her. She needed it serviced but the local service agent wouldn't service it because of issues with the serial number which indicated it was an internal use development device that wouldn't normally have left Apple. Her brother had to supply documentation saying his sister had it legitimately before the service agent would fix it. Perhaps not too out there, except the sister was in New Zealand so it is definitely intriguing to see how far some of these things get when they "escape".
I’m really curious if this board has all the “NO STUFF” components labeled on the schematics as well as the test indicator LEDs that are both normally omitted in the final production models.
Now I just wish to see the touch bar prototypes, those might be even exciting
Apple calls: “we want our MacBook back.”
Luke: what yours is mine
Sorry, you'll have to pry it out of my cold dead hands or it's mine now.
hah I get that, the missing iPhone 4 prototype
This Mac prototype’s backlight is flickering like it’s had a seizure on hearing about M1 Macs.
it's flickering like the displays plugged in to my M1 Macbook Air
Caused by the camera refresh rate and the computer backlight being out of sync
@@tydelwave yep
yea
For the record, it's still flickering, just at a PWM imperceptible to most people. However, ~20% of the population is known to get headaches after exposure to high-PWM lights, so ymmv.
Luke, this is one of your coolest videos ever!
lol! Blur out those serial numbers. RIP to the Apple engineer who was just fired for never returning their prototype test unit.
Given he was still working there in the first place.
Luke: Talking about smart home devices are useless in the podcast
Also Luke: "Today's episode is sponsored by a smart home device!"
Well this was a sponsor (the brand not a device), so he couldn’t say anything bad about it
First? Couldn’t not click this!
No you aren’t
Dang it, you triggered my Echos!
Mine too hahaha
Apple: "You've never seen a Mac like this before" at the new event
Luke: "No, you've NEVER seen a Mac like this before.... literally". 🤣
hiiiii
Wow, thats so cool! You gotta wonder, how many prototypes have been destroyed that have features and design that never made it into a product...
Incoming apple police raiding Luke’s house
I got to play with this unit last month when I visited Collin. Very cool system
There was probably a special variant of OS X Mavericks they had with kernel extensions for that trackpad that is not longer present due to the drive being wiped. That trackpad is essentially behaving like a trackpad would on a hackintosh that doesn't have a kernel extension installed for it. It's honestly surprising that it's working at all on a stock copy of Mavericks, but I suppose the kernel is providing some information to the OS that it can use to tell it that it is a trackpad at the very least.
The kernel on the machine is most likely what's stopping it from running any other version of OS X because that kernel isn't signed to run anything else other than Mavericks, so Yosemite and so on will see it as an incompatible kernel and fail to install or run. You can probably flash a 2013 or 2014 standard MBP kernel to it and it will run newer versions of OS X. It reminds me a lot of Xbox 360 prototypes from 2004. They can run any beta software, but can't run any retail software.
Just install windows and everything goes to normal with bootcamp drivers installed
And what do you think of apple still selling the 21.5" iMac?
Stock?
it's fine since the intel/amd models will still beat the M1 in graphics performance and hardware-accelerated workloads
@@dial2616 Not really, the 21.5” iMac doesn’t have dedicated graphics so the M1 graphics are better than the UHD 640 in the Intel Macs
@@Carlos-qm8gq Then I suppose it's only worth getting for the hardware acceleration, AVX512 support, and 16-bit wide SIMD bus (32 with hyperthreading)
@@dial2616 The 2017 21.5" iMac is a really worst product for 2021. Luke already made a video regarding it.
Gracie for the learning, I think all brands do the destruction or even if keeping the prototype is for a special reason. One of my guys got the most joyous moment when asked to demolish a prototype product while being documented. When will you be able to have that kind of experience anyway? Phew! Really like your channel, Luke.
Isn’t the _definition_ of “prototype” symbolic of this Mac not making it into production?
Luke, it's Apple. They would never use Comic Sans.
Apple: Hold my beer.
Let’s just blame the engineer that made it
Lol install a new SSD and Hackintosh the Mac Book to Catalina or Big Sur 😂
Try if Ubuntu Linux can run on it. Probably not.
The worlds weirdest MacBook
Why is saying "China servers" banned word, it just deletes my comment :D
I still want one of these to look closely at the board
I think I know exactly why it thinks there is a Core i5 inside it. I had the same phenomenon occur with my AMD Ryzen hackintosh. It uses a Ryzen 5 3600 processor, but in macOS it's reported as a Core i5. I've seen people use Ryzen 7s and 9s in their systems and it still reports as either a Core i5, or simply an Unknown processor.
When the Unigen Heaven benchmark reported that the prototype MacBook was using a Core i7, It was most likely correct as third party apps typically show more details about the processor than macOS does.
Most of the time, Apple uses Core i5 as a placeholder if the CPU model is not properly recognized by macOS.
Love these videos. A friend gave me a 2012 mac mini I5. I spent $80 on 8 gig of ram and a 240gb ssd. Found Patched Sur and man it's quite the peppy machine. Of course with the $50 Costco coupon this week, I can get a Mac Mini M1 at Costco for $530. Pretty cool for a 10 year machine though. Next step is to upgrade an old Imac. Looking forward to pulling the screen. Thanks again!
Did you try #dosdude patched OS?
not sure about the ram bit i have a macbook pro early 2015 with ddr3 1867mhz ram
I remenber the prototype for the iPad firts generacion 72GB that is weird
That MacBook Pro was created in my birthday and a few years later o bought the 2015 15’ dual graphics haha just a fun fact, great video Luke 🤙🏽
Force Touch Trackpad, one favored by the Jedi.
*Engineer 175 gets fired in 3, 2, 1…* Lol. Great video!
I wholeheartedly hope that there would be a prototype unibody MacBook Pro with a retina display somewhere in the wild...
Have you tried booting into a newer version of macOS with a external drive?
These UA-cam promos are annoying asf
How dare of Apple employee to use Comic Sans typeface for the label sticker! If alive, Steve Jobs would go on the murderous rage and kill the person who picked Comic Sans...
cool, but the functions keys are more likely just deactivated in system preferences so they function just like F1-F12 Keys and dont have their special function. You can turn this on or off on every mac
Man I wish I had subbed to you lol
Try and run Linux on it to test everything
You should try some patchers and see if you can get something else than Mavericks to work. Also Dosdude has some partial trackpad patcher for the MacBook 5.2 where the trackpad is recognized as a mouse and is pretty much unusable, and also the keyboard is not mapped properly, so maybe that can fix some stuff.
I can almost ASSURE YOU that I know who got that Proto out of a lab in Cupertino years and years ago.
Who?
mouse tracking looks like a Windows laptop. lol.....
Just watching the video of this rare MacBook Pro made me think “those things should’ve been on the production line a long time ago”
Just seriously those things are powerful to run any operating system, any games and even push every bit of hardware to its limits to know that nothing will break.
I want to also find out if MacOS will work on a 64bit windows PC or Laptop. Can someone please tell me if it has the potential to work because I don’t want to do it if it will decrease its ability to keep up with basic things. so, I need someone to tell me if it works and what the pro’s and con’s are with doing so and can windows and MacOS run using half of the disk space for each on the hard drive so I can boot MacOS from a thumb drive then be able to unplug it and it will still run but then when I restart it I want it to still be able to boot up into windows 10. Besides having 250GB storage for each.
I want to be able to run either one without issues so what would be best
Gosund and SmartLife are just rebranded Tuya devices but double the price. You can just download the Tuya App and connect all the Gosund products to it. That will unlock bunch of features not available from their respective apps and on top this allows you to control your products without connecting to China servers and then connect them to any smart home system like Home Assistant totally off grid.
im really glad he mentioned the label was in comic sans b/c that is exactly what I was thinking and I was like wtf? b/c apple knows type and that is not what you'd expect to see on a MacBook lol
I triple dog dare you to leave UA-cam and never come back until you know about EVERYTHING about publishing videos on UA-cam.
Great video!
If it was mine, I will try to flash the system firmware from the same macbook but retail model, to see if the trackpad and function keys will work as expected. Then I will try a newer macOS, probably, it´s a early beta version.
how comes the 2015 macbook pro is so much higher regarded than like the late 2013 macbook pro, when i think they are basically the same. same screen, keyboard speakers, same ram and i think same cpu and graphic options
It isn’t much higher. Same width across the A1398 at 0.71”.
I wonder what happened to that 2007 3G MacBook Pro that was leaked like in 2011, and Apple asked for it back.
What a loooong sponsor intro 🤮
a red logic board! whoa
Yeah ikr!!!!!
cheaper to print than black
16 RAM ICs for 8GB of RAM? That's absolutely wild. What is this, 2004?
If one poops on a Macbook...does it become a Crapbook? And if there's more poo than average....does it become a Crapbook Pro? 💩
You know, you don't have to boot into single user mode to get kernel info. Just run "name -a" in a regular Terminal window
uname -a
Not name -a
@@ernstoud Hehe, auto-incorrect doing it’s magic. Thanks for the correction there, yeah - uname
dang luke you couldn't wait til tomorrow to upload this? that would've been an awesome gift for my birthday!
Happy early bday mate!
@@babascustomlegocreations8837 thank you!
@@babascustomlegocreations8837 lol, didn't expect to see you here xD this is Josiah (josiahs_lego_technic) :D
happy birthday! don't know which which timezone you are in, so no idea if it's already your birthday
@@derkleinekerl2401 thank you!
Luke, watch out next time someone knocks on your door, it might just be angry Tim wanting his prototype back 😂
Meh...any (all) Intel Macs are dead-ends .... like Pippin or Newton (or CRT TVs)...my nostalgia feelies are pretty much done...Onward ! Upward for Apple Silicon !!!
Try installing Windows or latest apple os in that I'm very interested in that macbook!
for macOS: there's a special bit set on the firmware that tells macOS installers that it's a prototype and they won't install on it without flipping the bit or ignoring it.
Oh.
The first retina Macbook Pro was released in 2012. This prototype is made in 2014. So it's nothing special except for the fact that it is a prototype unit. Would be cool to see what the prototype looks like before the first 2012 release.
iPhone 4 all over again lol
What a great vid, keep the good work luke 🔥🤩
Are you and mrwhosetheboss brothers? Because his name is Arun Maini......
i have one question for you luke, listen me, i bougt a macbook pro 2011 15 inch from ebay. apparentely it is ok, but when you go to check the information that this macbook has, there is an issue: it thell me that it is a macbook pro retina 2013 13 inch and the serial number reported in the info of this macbooktell me that it is a macbook pro retina 2013, but my macbook is a 2011 model, and the serial number in the back cover tell me that is a macbook pro 2011 15 inch but the serial number in the macbook settings tell me that it is a retina macbook 2013, 13 inch. it is a rare macbook or it has just gpu problem or idk what tipe of proble it is ( ps, sorry for my bad english, i came from italy and i m learning english )
I was hoping we would see a side-by-sode internal components comparison between this and the final release. But great video nonetheless.
Another thing... the Serial Number printed on a label under the SSD (visible at 9:00) is not the same as the Comic Sans label on the outside.
I'm the 77th comment! Can I get a random reply or something? lol
made by asus sold by apple in california haha ps confidental product haha look at motherboard from asus zephyrus duo or g14 :) almost 100% the same design pcb speakers heatpipes fans even battery connection with pcb is the same look at the went sandisk ssd sold by apple for 5x more omg
7:11 Rated XXX? Luke, what have you gotten yourself into?!
Your knowledge of Mac components is quite high, this helps when buying new and used products
Can it run Windows
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Including the revision in the logic board part number gives me shivers.
With Mavericks
I dare you to update eligible prototype Macs into the last support version of macOS
Them using Comic Sans could really be a joke OR a measure to make sure that it would be cataloged correctly internally. Many dyslexic people find it easier to read, and seeing as it's basically a letter jumble from the start it might help ensure that every prototype is indexed and kept track of.
On point! Why would Apple go to the trouble of using a dyslexic friendly font that looks a bit ridiculous? Perhaps because Steve Jobs was dyslexic..
Ha, ha .Hardware my last forever but Apple make sure you can’t use them anymore with software incompatibility.
Try to make some open core folder to install newer update like in the old cmp
The only reason I don't always like your videos is your ad reads come off more forced than others. This is still a prevalent issue even in some of your most recent videos.
an hour later
KNOCK KNOCK
luke: opens the door
tim: WILL SMITH SLAP
Where Did you get this And How can I get a cheap 2015 MacBook pro I'm trying to upgrade from my 2012
Apple: designs beautiful San Francisco font for its devices and systems only
Also apple: uses comic sans
Gosund smart plug is awesome used it for Christmas to turn off lights
Next thing you know apple will raid your house to take that Mac book away from you think about what happened with that prototype iPhone 4
I am an AASP, I wonder what would show up in my Apple service provider searial number database
Bro, this macbook is unusable, so go and install linux on it 👍👍👍👍 like if you want to see linux running on this beast.
Luke, since we agree on a lot of things. I have subscribed. LOL