2024 Ford Bronco NOT SELLING - Wonder Why?
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2024
- Sales of the mighty Ford Bronco fall over 25% compared the same time last year. There are still tons of 2023 models on dealership lots and price tag points to why. People are starting to wake up and not waste huge amounts money on vehicles that may not be the most practical. It's cool SUV and all, but for price, I'd probably go for a cheap used Jeep or Nissan Xterra.
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Disgustingly over priced
Not only that, but the first thing you notice when you see a stock base model is THEY WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY TO MAKE THE BASE LOOK PATHETIC. this seems to have been designed differently, as if they made the best version and then stripped parts instead of building a base model and upgrading it
Maybe they ran out of idiots to pay for the over priced defect?
@@ellwoodwolf they make the base model vehicles look incredibly ugly so people will want the more expensive trims, thus more money for the manufacturer.
Absolutely correct
Way over priced
I think the “market” has adjusted. Time for $20k off the window sticker. Those bastards didn’t hesitate to add $20k to the window sticker during the last 3 years.
Everyone blames inflation but really everyone is just saying "inflation" like magic words to charge you more.
Don't let 'em lie to you...
Righteously stated!
Yes I was on a Waiting list for 6 months for a Bronco Now you can have them to Much Mark ups!!!!
Auto dealers have proven over and over how corrupt they are. I bought my first new car in 1978 and the dealer cared about me. Not so anymore.
@@michaelcschmitt Those were the very last days of true car salesmen as well. A person who worked, raised a family and were a valuable employee. Today, most of them are lot chasers running down customers for very little pay. After they sell their family and friends vehicles, the dealership is hiring your replacement.
These should all be $40-45k at most
Yea, these are not 100k vehicles if you look at materials and fit and finish .
Yes, vehicles and houses are way excessively overpriced these days. It’s maddening
$64,000 with a $1000 down, current Ford rate is 5% on new cars is over $1,300 for 5 years, $985 for 7 years.A car payment is 10-15% of one's monthly salary so unless you're making $125k plus you're sol.
Well that is certainly not even close to being true for the Bronco Raptor. The Bronco Raptor is over priced, but it's worth a lot more than $40-45k.
EVEN THAT'S TOOOO MUCH.
Remember when 60k cars were really nice Mercedes and not your average bronco
@tbotiOG there is a good reason why that "really nice" Mercedes value plummets big time once the warranty period is done.
@@steve8803 think you missed the point
@@tbotiOG I got your point. I just think Mercedes is a huge waste of money, and so is the Bronco.
@@steve8803that’s because either you’ve never owned one or will never be able to afford one.
@@masonj4779 correct. I've never owned either and I never will. I look at the overall cost of ownership when I purchase a vehicle. Low maintenance costs and high re-sale value are important to me. I have no issues paying up to $100k for a vehicle, as long as those two factors are present.
$98K for a Bronco Raptor that looks like it's a $55K vehicle at the very most.
No one right mind will pay $98k for a Ford truck.
@@jonwear9791 Any brand really...
$98k That's definitely Land Rover money and I would get one of those instead (with a warranty) or maybe even a slightly used G-wagon which would have lower depreciation and look better on the Blvd.
100k for a rolling pile of plastic Ford junk that will be in the junkyard in 5 years
55k? I wouldn't price it at 15k. It's a Ford lol
New car prices are just silly, wages haven’t been going up and we are now seeing the long overdue downwards adjustment, back to what people can afford. Let me know when these drop to $35K.
Too many recalls. Way overpriced. Add to that, greedy dealerships that aren't afraid to stick it to stupid people that go there to buy.
Yeah most Ford dealerships aren’t great
Neither are toyota dealerships.
I'm not advocating buying a Chevrolet but i did appreciate how open they were about problems some Silverados were having. Toyota and honda had policies to not discuss anything with the customer. I will never buy either one of them ever again.
Only considering a mazda 3 or a nissan versa. Heard from too many subaru owners about problems...
🤷I got 8k off sticker on my bronco raptor
I've never had great luck with Nissan transmissions long term.@@unclefester4626
Harsh statements which now perfectly describes our reality
Let's try for 600 days
It’ll probably happen
@@revnation_autoThey pay a fee too right to keep them on the lot? Crazy. I've seen storied.of vehicles on lots for 5 years because dealers refused to budge. Crazy.
@@rxonmymind8362normally their back will make them move it off the books after a certain time.
Worked cars in L.A. when interest was 19%
The flooring fees on this obsolete overpriced
Electronic controlled crap is gonna kill off a
Lot of new vehicle dealers…🤷🏿♂️
900 days
Inflation. A base 2 door started at $28,995 when these first came out if you ordered one. Quickly shot up to $31,995 over the next year and a half, but still a bargain. Now the cheapest two door, big bend, is $39,630. That’s a 33% increase. That’s more than inflation.
That's about inflation from 2021 to today
Inflation is only OK if wages keep up. When nobody can afford their junk all they get is crocodile tears.
THEY GOT GREEDY AND I HOPE THEY GO BROKE! I WANTED TO PURCHASE IT WHEN THE RAPTOR WAS SUPPOSED TO BE $70K AND I WAS TARDING IN MY 208 SS CONVERTIBLE AND THEY WENT FROM $70K TO 132K, I WALKED OUT
Inflation is low right now. It's called price gouging.
Big ben isnt a base. They got rid of the base.
Anybody who would pay more than $50,000 for a Bronco has their head up where the sun don't shine!😮
Don’t you mean $30,000?
They need a glass bellybutton so they can see where they are going.
YOU CAN BUY A LEXUS FOR LESS, THAT DOESN'T BREAK.
You mean up their @$$? 😂😂😂😂😂
@@TOBYHyup, I would buy an American ASSEMBLED TOYOTA (Texas Assembled) to support the American economy!
Remember all the people that bought vehicles around 3 or 4 years ago? For a lot more money than they were worth. Well all these people are way underwater on their loans and when they come in to trade, they find out they owe many thousands of dollars more than their vehicle is worth. So dealers have screwed themselves by ripping off customers years ago and putting them out of the market. For the foreseeable future. Karma is a b*tch!
I was lucky to buy a Ram Limited in 2018 for $48,000...($62,000 sticker). Just sold it for $32,000 with 80,000 miles. Consider myself lucky. Now driving a Ford Maverick 😊
Yup that’s why the worst is yet to come usually people trade up every 3/5 years this year the start of it wait till next year car sales is going twice as bad
Bought a 04 Ranger for $2,500 a couple years ago and still driving it as my daily. That truck pays me 🤣
@@anderander5662 Ha! I'm looking to do the same....... I may wait for the 2025 though.
@@klwarhouse just checked my long-term average..... 39.4 MPG 25% hiway 75% city/surburban
The folks who paid MSRP plus a "market adjustment" fee are really going to take a huge loss.
$100k is a little much for a vehicle with a cardboard roof
Which one is $100k?
@@brkbtjunkie Most the bigger diesel trucks were around 80k, ,and that is way too much , about 35k should have been about right. I hope the banks never finance another 70k+ auto too big of a risk.
😂🤣
@@brkbtjunkie raptor edition ...he was exaggerating ...by about 6k but after taxes who knows
@@brkbtjunkie Raptor is around $100,000, not the Bronco's most people buy!
The economy is crappy, the price is waaaaay too high, and the quality is dubious.
Found On Road Dead.
@@Commentleaver-c6xthat's about right
@@Commentleaver-c6xFound on road depreciated… in half after 6 months
Why do you say the economy is crappy? Low unemployment, near record high stock market, record corporate profits, strong GDP numbers, some big wins for Union contracts. Are these a bad thing?
@@hopefloats7573it’s a bubble
I am a Toyota guy but I've owned a few Fords... Explorer, Focus, and currently a Mustang. They were fun cars but have never been reliable. Stuff seems like it is always breaking. Wheel bearing, brake light switches, head gasket, timing chain guides... you name it. My Toyota starter finally failed at 250k miles. To even consider paying 100k for these cars is insane.
I have a 2002 Tundra 4x4. At about 300,000 miles I had to replace the starter motor, and shortly after that, the alternator.It now has 328,000 miles on it and runs perfectly. I plan to keep it a while longer..lol!
Perfectly said.
My starter went on my 2006 Highlander and 230k miles. The clerk at O'Reilly's replaced it at the store (2.4 liter). 2 bolts and a nut...drivers side near the battery.
Those were the previous generation Toyotas. The new Tundras and Tacomas (and other vehicles sharing those same engines) are plagued with mechanical issues.
@@HP-ov7ol yes. Predominantly they have turbos. All turbos are problems.
The government is making so many demands for the automakers that import vehicles. And I believe all vehicles today must have a certain fuel economy. I THINK (Not sure what it's at 2024). But Japan is using small engines with turbos to help with fuel economy.
While American manufacturers can make a Trackhawk and not worry about fines.
Why don't you go buy a new Toyota? They're doing great!!! Right?
If the public can just hold out and let ALL the car manufactures sweat
They aren’t worried. The gov (you and I) will just bail them out like it 2008.
sad but true 🙄
the reversed happen during pandemic.....dealers couldn't get cars and were selling used for 20-40% more....people went nuts ...because they couldn't have would pay more- insane
I can hold out I have 1 fully paid for 2016 Scat Pack Challenger & a 2018 Mitsubishi Outlander AWD with 2 payments left. Also a 2009 inherited Chevy p/u I keep for visits to California. My wife & I just recently retired & moved to Virginia .
@@Jason-ml3vs yeah that was then. Look around, does shit look like 2008? Prediction fail, your just a parrot. Want a cracker?
The Ford Motor Company has lost its way. Henry Ford understood that you have to make cars affordable. Nowadays, the car companies push for maximum profit, but there is not much profit when they don’t sell because of their outrageous pricing.
Interesting fact. Henry Ford did understand.
It's actually the dealerships to blame. The dealers rake in way more than the actual automakers, because of the price gouging
Ford does make affordable cars, but those aren't what must people want. You can't be seriously comparing an optioned out 4x4 suv w/ a affordable car.
@@goosedeathable optioned 4x4 cars use to be affordable. They're not luxury vehicles.... their made to go off-road, hence the 4x4 capability. The manufacturers and dealers have lost their minds, and act like a vehicle loaded with normal cost effective plastic should cost what a car loaded with carbon fiber, wood grain, 8k dollar brakes, race suspension, race electronics, and other track performance modifications, should cost the same. They got greedy and started screwing their customers.. now their paying the price.
Lot of the options is put in by the dealers ,totally inflated,if every one put a pause on buying any car that you might want,let the sit on that inventory,that will get their attention,I’m a retired used car dealer,
I bought a new 2023 Big Bend 2 door. When I initally ordered in 2021 it stickered for around 38,000. A year later I was told by Ford to re-order a 2023. Price had jumped to around 41,000. Now theyre going for around 46,000 -47,000. The common family cant afford these prices.
For the life of me I can't understand why there will be a $50,000 disparity between the two trim levels
thats how much more they think the twin-turbo V6 is worth -- they should go back to supercharged V8's...still sounds like a 6
Bigger engine, much more expensive suspension components, and a big premium for the "raptor" name because Ford has had F-150 idiots for so long that pay a massive premium for the F150 Raptor they figured the same would apply to the Bronco.
The gas mileage on these must suck too.
@@eddyb2001Sticker said almost 6 gallons per 100 miles.
It's two completely different vehicles, both called "Bronco." Just like Fiats are called Jeeps now.
anything north of $50k is unattainable to the middle class. period. these days $50k will get you cloth seats , no options.
EXACTLY! they cost way too much. 35k tops.
The AVERAGE price of a sold brand new car in America is about 47k, so it doesn’t seem right that 3k is all it takes to go from average to unattainable.
Also, what exactly is middle class in America? Middle class in rural areas and more populated areas have very different incomes.
And they make cheaper cars feel like penalty boxes.
I bought the 2021 bronco badlands with the vinyl waterproof seats and large infotainment screen and all the auxiliary switch options (i.e. disconnecting sway bar, front and rear locks, etc.), and it was in the $50s. I'm probably considered upper middle class though, and that was the most I'd be willing to spend on a bronco. The sasquatch and especially the raptor both seemed like wastes of money to me with almost no real world performance improvements.
Buy a quality brand, high-spec, used car. Leather seats, all the options you could possibly want, and no payments. Gotta keep some money put away for repair bills though...
Canadian here. Those prices are ridiculous. I ordered a very specific, affordable, two door, manual, hardtop 2023 Bronco Big Bend. Dealer markups not allowed in Canada. I paid the equivalent of $36,500.00 US (everything in), and got a decent trade-in for my old Edge. Extremely happy with my purchase. No recalls and some aftermarket additions have kept it looking good. I still get compliments on it.
$99k..+ $7k in taxes!!!!!!!nuff said..even $15k off is still $84k!!!! At what 7% with excellent credit…effing joke
They wont have excellent credit after buying this crap for long.
Don't t forget the sweet insurance on a $90,000 vehicle.
Today I looked at a 2 door Bronco Wildtrack with Sasquatch package and Warn winch. $70,000! If I traded in my 2020 Ranger that has 19,000 miles on it, I would still be looking at financing around 40k. Makes no sense to go into that kind of debt. I'll keep my paid for Ranger.
The Sasquatch package includes the phenomenon whereby if you take a picture of the vehicle it will always be blurry
@@ss_whole And I thought that was the paint. Ford really is amazing.
Ranger is a good little meme machine tho. You’ll be missing it.
Oh wait you kept the Ranger. Good decision.Im keeping mine for long as I can too. Ford friggin Ranger best truck.
Every Wildtrak comes with the Sasq package.
"High Interest Rates!"
I bought a 2023 four door Black Diamond Package last August, w/a 7 Speed Manual Transmission, 2.3L 4 Cylinder, and a soft-top, for the window sticker price of around $42K.
It was sitting on the lot, w/no dealer mark-up, mainly because it was a manual vs. an automatic. No one locally likes manuals, much less probably know how to even drive them.
No issues to date. Third year production run so hopefully any issues are fixed.
Highway, I've gotten as high as 27 mpg.
Very few will go "off road" very often. This is almost purely a "cool car" purchase and to be the first to have one. Well, that ship has sailed.
I totally agree. Sold all over Houston, no place to Off road and hills or mountain. Bought for look only, but with poor reliability.
I’ve always had a hard time wrapping my head around someone paying $60,000 for a vehicle to take “off road “. I guess I’m just a tight wad but I couldn’t do that.
Venture out into the wilderness and you'll find lots of people using 4x4, and some doing crazy stuff in very expensive rigs.
Most Will Never See Dirt Road!
@@humzilla707 they do surveys. It's a niche hobby. There is nothing mysterious about it.
I'd love to have one of those 2-door models. But I love having $60K in my pocket more.
I like the red 4 door for 58K. You'd still have 2K in your pocket.
The two door ones are made in Mexico.
I agree with a lot of folks here. Beyond price, car dealers have communicated over the last 3 years that they are generally untrustworthy businesses that are not willing to work with you, even after having an inventory that has been inventoried in a floor-plan for 6-12 months. Add to that a couple of high-profile quality issues (looking at you 2.7l turbo) and it would make you feel uneasy about a purchase that will leverage you pretty hard.
2023, rotting on the lot
Yep and 24’s have been out and 25’s come out sept 1st…they better start dealing or they are sunk
My wife was looking at them and really wanted one until I saw my local dealers were marking them up $10k over MSRP (which was already ridiculous). We bought her a brand new 2023 4Runner and haven't looked back.
@@locomike1024runners are great
@@locomike102 4 Runners starting price is only $40K...that looks good compared to the Bronco
@@michaelpalm22102023 base bronco with 35" tires, front and rear lockers (Sasquatch package) was $40k.
$100k... LOL. They would sell at $35K to $50K. Maybe.
I would buy in at 35😊
Get yourself a used 4Runner. You'll never regret it. 👍🏾
Ford overestimated the demand of the bronco. Almost every one who wanted a bronco got one the first two years it came out. And these just aren’t practical for most people to be a daily driver. They are toys. You don’t need broncos you want them.
This is the most sensible and accurate comment I've seen in a while...👍👏
overestimated
@@tinay9491 corrected thanks 😂
Exactly, I love Bronco's but this isn't one of them. Bought a 74 in 94 for 3200. Have put about 35k in it over the years and have to insure it for 80. My daughter has a 96 that's sort of a built O.J. and it will always be worth more than we have in it. These new ones will be worthless in 7-10 years.
I don't (want them).
"The most off-road capable vehicle" for people who will NEVER brive it off-road.
Part of 'off road capability' is being reliable so gtfoh, Toyota will crush these piles of trash. Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy with current Toyota either but if I buy a 3 year old 4Runner I'm buying a solid vehicle. Any modern Ford is a POS
Jeep wrangler 392 all day o😊 over the ford
Like Jeeps.
So true. I don't understand why people will spend 100 Grand on something that is full of compromises to be off road capable, like oversized tires that are loud on the highway and get terrible fuel economy.
@@ronkuzyk3836 And good luck with your warranty when you add all that aftermarket crap not to mention what it does to the vehicle.
We bought a new 2014 Xterra in 2015, after watching it sit on the lot for over a year. We drove by it a lot . It’s a pro 4x manual ( maybe why it sat) that had everything and listed at 31,000 originally and we ended up getting it for 25,600. The Xterra was at the end of its run and people had started looking elsewhere, but we got a really capable off road truck at a great price. I can’t believe these things are pushing 6 digits. You can’t even get into a Jeep for under 60k from what I’ve seen.
Farley is sniffing glue.
Ford's are full of recalls, the quality is questionable and the price is absurd.
@sabastian4858 Better to do a recall for an issue than nothing at all.
@@steve8803ummm maybe don’t sell shoddy. NEW products that have to be recalled. There’s that option
@@steve8803 best not to have a recall.
@@sabastian4858 of course. But that's unrealistic. Look at the new Tundra as an example. R & D can only detect so much. When something is new, there will be recalls and TSB's.
@@steve8803 Ford is the most recalled vehicle brand in the United States
Ford, Toyota, and Jeep are screwing themselves with these ridiculously mark-ups. Inventory won't move until prices drop at LEAST20-25%
OTOH - the dealers are offering A LOT for used Wranglers - if you negotiate hard - I recently sold mine and made out very well.
$100,000 for plastic. No thanks.
Greed, over the top greed. People with the means just don't give their money away. The Bronco has excceded a comfortable price point for consumers.
Cars have not gotten more valuable, our money is just worth less.
Greed? Yeah, some... but, business kinda runs on greed. At least to some extent. They'll charge what they can. The consumers are the ones that really dictate price. We are so comfortable being in massive debt, we willingly buy at ridiculous prices. It's just supply and demand. We're the ones that create the idiotic demand.
300 days is twice as long as the average owner keeps it.
Garbage
😅😅😅😅😅😅
That made me laugh, thank you!
My grandpa told me ford stands for fix or repair daily…change that f to finance…I wanted a bronco but I will get a 4Runner
The entire Automotive industry will fall. When Toyota a dealership who historically was known to bring good value is overpriced , that’s a huge issue
Toyota is another one that thinks it sells gold. In my country a basic Rav4 could cost 35k.
$99000+ for a Bronco? Absolutely insane. That'll put you into a super plush Lexus LX 600 (starting price $93,915). At some point pricing toys like grown up cars means acres of lot rotted unwanteds for a carmaker.
Or a Lexus LC 500.
Broncos will probably hold their resale a bit better, but still, its obscene what Ford is asking for these piles. I'm a Jeep guy and they are in the same boat as the Broncos--overpriced, unreliable, and not moving off the dealer lots.
Or a used Lamborghini Gallardo even Ferrari Mondial is a lot cheaper than a Bronco
Can someone please remind Ford that they are selling Fords - not Ferraris? $64K is just a few bucks less than a loaded Acura MDX Type S that has a 340-horsepower V-6, massaging seats, amazing infotainment, heads up display, etc., etc.
Noisy cabin, roof leaks water, reliability issues, parts availability when it breaks, poor dealer support, and way overpriced
And doors so thick you can dent them with your knuckles
Sounds like a jeep
@@charcoalgriller I'd still take the Jeep for off-roading. Ford went full clown when they used IFS on this.
It’s a Ford….
@@CamperMan727 Do you mean so thin?
Having problems keeping the refrigerator full. Inflation put things in priority. I'll keep driving my 08 tundra.
I would the 5.7 so reliable
Geez ... I paid less than $70 for my house (but have spent maybe half again that to fix it up over the years). But my house has appreciated. A vehicle loses a third of its value when you drive it off the lot. These prices are insane.
Piles of junk & nerve to ask thousands of dollars for these garbage cans, hopefully these greedy con dealerships go under sick of the GREED....
They're the only new SUV I would buy.
It's the manufacturers too buddy. The BS starts at the factory.
How do you really feel about it? 😁
You've been spoiled. I'm 67 years old and I remember the cars from the 60s and early 70s and today's cars are heads above those old pieces of crap. They ride and handle much better and have better acceleration. I have a 79 bronco and if someone traded me for one of the new ones I'd take it. I don't care for the small engines with turbocharging but as long as you don't beat on it it should last a long time. One thing that would help greatly is getting rid of all the computerized options that really are not necessary. That is where the cost of repairs hit you the hardest.
Overpriced garbage, Toyota 4 Runner better buy.
For 52k you can get a Honda Pilot Trailsport or a Toyota 4Runnuner TRD Off Road. For 58K you can get a 4Runner TRD Pro. Ford is out of their mind.
For 57k you can get a ford raptor ranger. Less than a Toyota 4 runner trd pro and less than a Tacoma trd pro
At the end of the day it's a Ford, junk. Toyota for the long haul.
@@tommcdonough6086 I’m guessing that’s why Toyota copied Ford in dropping V8’s and using Fords v6 twin turbo. You should try doing some research before commenting
Take any Bronco over any Honda or Toyota.
@@jimsteinway695 V8's are going away because of government mandate, V6's will be going away in short order as well for the same reasons. So the drive trains of the near future will either be turbo charged 4 bangers, 4 banger hybrids or EV's. And if I am going to bet my money on who would produce a superior hybrid system, my money is on Toyota or Honda, Ford will be out of business in less than a decade.
I think seeing all these vehicles sitting on the back lot indicates the public has spoken.
They aren't selling because the economy (true numbers, not what the government tells people) is in the toilet, interest rates are higher, and people are tired of all of the modern junk from every carmaker. The newer vehicles, for the most part, are disposable, from every auto maker these days. Smarter people are holding on to what they have a little longer, or buying older vehicles.
Exactly my thoughts too mate .
Absolutely, prices for new vehicles are absolutely insane and I don't know how anybody who isn't filthy rich can afford one. Here in Canada too, our government is run by absolute morons who are causing massive inflation in every sector.
My Outback is nearing 300K km so I'm currently looking at getting a new vehicle, to supplement it, and I'm probably going to just get a late-production Xterra. If I really want to stretch it, maybe a used Frontier Pro-4X. Spending anything beyond that makes absolutely no sense to me, especially for something with a tiny turbo'd 4 that is unlikely to last nearly as long and is choked by EPA garbage.
Spot on.
Wait What!!? The Economy is in the Toilet"!?
I worked in Investment Management for near 40 yrs. Been through lots of ups and downs of every Economic kind. The Economy isn't "perfect" but it's VERY, VERY far from being in the "Toilet".
The US recovery from post Covid GLOBAL Inflation is the envy of the entire Industrialized World. 4% Unemployment Rate, Inflation Rate has been cut in HALF, Consumer Spending recovered dramatically and is now easing as it should and soon to follow a slowly rising consumer Savings Rate. All as it should be.
People are bitching about 7% Mortgage Rates. The AVERAGE Mortgage Rate over the last 50 years was....7.73. That's from a high of 18% in 1981 and a Low of 2.6 in 2021. Be very thankful it's not the Mid 70's to early 80s or 2008-2010.
The Bronco is WAY overpriced.
I was considering a new 4wd but decided to re-engine my 200k Liberty instead. After doing so, even if I have to replace the transmission at some point and still pay $1,000/year on odds and ends (which would be highly unlikely) I would end up spending less over the next 15-20 years than I would buying a new one.
Interest rate is killing the sales. Over priced, high interest rate, equals a house payment for an automobile
It's the inflated MSRP. Pre 2019, cars cost 20k less.
Tbh I have an older Bronco (1993) and even though the new ones will wreck mine offroad, there are two aspects that wreck the new ones.
The towing capacity and the rear window rolls down. I use the rear wind 95% of the time I drive mine. I’ve taken the top off, and it’s badass, but that rear window is my absolute favorite aspect of that vehicle. I don’t always need to have the full Jeep experience. I always want the option, but that rear window is killer. Best part is if it starts raining it’s 3 buttons (driver, passenger, and rear) to close the windows and a minor effort to close the vent windows if they’re open.
The new one flat out miss that aspect
Oh and mine has like 30% more cargo space even though it’s the same size as the new ones.
They never replaced the full-size Bronco. It was decent when they built it.
Like the K/5 Blazer. Also never truly 'replaced'.
Can’t beat the 1969 bronco with the v8 302 automatic!
4200$ then. Biden nomics has done this to every thane you touch the last 3.5 years.
Vote Trump
With milk, bread and eggs at the prices they are, and current interest rates, and fuel costs, it's a wonder any new vehicles are moving at all.
You are a absolutely correct, familys require substance, (food ,drink)shelter,and yes transportation,it's financial suicide to buy a new vehicle nowadays, and that's why used cars are high,high taxes ,food prices,high utilities, etc,anyway, keep praying to God,for peace, good health and prosperity .
@@rockandroll_dad All thanks to Bidenomics.
Ford really got those two hands rubbing together so fast they were getting high off the huffing, 14K in upgrades, simplify the process, you have three trims.
There is no way any of that cost anywhere near that much.
There should be laws against this crap! And car manufacturers need to get rid of these rip-off dealerships with their thieving ridiculous markups!
To quote James Carville, "The economy, stupid." People are paying for food, shelter, and basics at a high rate. Interest rates are high. Fewer people have the money to throw at status vehicles. Also, the vast majority of Bronco Raptor owners will never begin to use the vehicle's off-road capabilities.
You nailed it! Best explanation I've read today!
Mr Biden said people DO have the money to afford what they want
@@edlutz7218 I guess we will have to take his word for it.
How much off roading till you have to replace high dollar parts
I realize this isn’t even the biggest problem, but 17 MPG?
High horsepower comes at a price. There's no free lunch.
@@Bill-sp8kb It's the poor aerodynamics more than anything
It’s a V6 and gets 17mpg. Garbage cars
That’s the funny part they said the Xterra lost market share and was discontinued due to is 17mpg city rating .
@@OscarMartinez-rw7ttyes I might as well get my manual jeep
Price, quality and food store ! Walk in restaurants are down 20% ! Waffle House has 2 cars in the parking lot . Insurance is skyrocketing ! But UAW goons got their big raise ! Stick your cars where the sun don't shine !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If they were selling in the mid 40's then maybe i would consider, but till then i will continue in my old Landcruiser.
Why would I spend 50 to 80k on a vehicle to take it out in the woods to get it scratched and dented up?
Exactly. True off-road enthusiasts want a stick-shift, base model that they build up themselves. If you didn't bust something, you didn't have a good time. Many of these new "off-road" focused vehicles won't fit on most trails anyway.
Because you watched ads which showed a handsome vehicle rocketing around wide mountain dirt roads on a clear day with your sexy companion smiling in the other seat. Oh, wait, that's Video car land, take a right at Never Never Junction and go until your vision gets MORE blurry.
The 2.7 engine has a wet belt driving the oil pump. Only good for around 100k & its behind the timing chains so the entire front of the engine has to be torn down . This is an "engineered failure component" Thanks again Ford .
I went shopping for a vehicle and the dealers don't even come out to harass u anymore... They know they're insane.
there is no salesmen anymore as no one is buying so they are working at mc dees for $20 hr. to get by
Nothing Ford makes is worth 100k nothing any auto manufacturer makes is. The Bronco's price is 60% too high I could see a Raptor sell for 50k but that's as high as it should go. Auto makers got greedy and are beginning to reap what they sowed. I'm friends with an owner of a couple of Ford Dealerships they make their money on fleet contracts and wholesale cars people aren't buying the 60-80k trucks but when a 2012 F-150 comes on the lot for 12k its gone instantly. People are buying older cars as they are cheaper and easier to repair. Jeep/Stillantis is going through the exact same issue a Jeep Wrangler isn't worth 80k either.
Jeep just dropped MSRP on the Grand Cherokees - I wouldn't be astonished if they don't follow suit on the Wranglers.
Especially Ford. I could see 60k for a landcruiser because I know it will last 20 ,30 years or even more. Your average ford struggles to last 5 years. Usually worn out with lifters tapping and burning oil.
I'll think about getting one if they pay me to own it.
@@Jeff-sp7bg sad thing is Toyota quality has drooped too as awesome as Land Cruisers are I would be dubious for a new one but they are designed for harsh arid climates and last 25 years in those conditions.
Maybe the Ford GT’s
I just traded my 2024 Jeep Wrangler 4xe High Altitude for a new discounted 2023 Bronco Rapture $91,000 new I purchased for $76,000 and I am extremely satisfied! Best purchase I've ever made. A complete beast!
Let me get this right. I can buy a 200 mph new Corvette for the price of a slightly optioned Bronco?
Try Towing a Horse Box with a Corvette.
@@TProfileGwho has a horse box???
@@masonj4779 not one corvette owner.
@@TProfileGI wouldn't tow a live animal with a 3500 lb rated car either. Literally a Toyota Highlander has more tow capacity.
It's fucking mind boggling what people are willing to pay for new vehicles.
Well, it seems like almost no one is willing to pay out the @ss for these.
@jkody it's even more mind boggling what people are willing to pay for someone else's used pile of junk.
Mr Biden said people DO have the money to afford what they want
It’s a free market. They sell or they don’t. These are luxury items. No one actually NEEDS one. Plenty of options out there for someone who needs 4 wheel drive. These are a flex or toy and nothing more.
I think these vehicles are plagued with problems from what I’ve seen in other videos. That may be part of the reason they’re not selling too
My 2015 Xterra Pro-4X just passed 110,000 miles and I've never had an issue with it. Been through blizzards and Las Vegas summers in the desert. It was fully loaded at $32K, LOL. 4 liter V6.
People have realized these are overpriced junk. Henry's company is being destroyed.
I can't afford a 20k car loan at the current rate let alone these prices.
That fact that you know what you can, and cannot afford, makes you smarter than most. Good on ya...
For $20k you get a 8-10 year old vehicle with 100+k miles unless you putting $50k down? And the rates on used are insane, I wouldn't finance anything right now.
Just be patient, the bankruptcy sales are not that far off. I have the money and if I wanted the 66k model I'm willing to give 30k drive out. A buddy has a Ford Lightning and in about a year and a half or so he lost over 40k and I can guarantee that 100k Bronco will do the same.
Every dealership was charging over retail initially for the lightning and it's an inferior electric truck. The Rivian is the best electric truck on the market and it's much cheaper than what they were pricing the Lightning at. These days I'm seeing a lot of Rivians but I'm not seeing anyone driving a Lightning in my area.
Greedy companies + Greedy Union workers + Greedy Dealer mark-ups = Insane prices. It's not rocket science.
Don’t these dealers have to pay interest on their loans for these vehicles just to sit around?
Yes. They lose money for every day a vehicle sits on their lot but it seems they would rather go bankrupt that make a deal...
Floor plans. The bank actually owns the vehicle's. The dealership pays interest to the bank every month for every car
@@In-obscurity-n7j Does someone from the dealership actually place orders for these specific models? I mean it seems like an expensive gamble to order stuff so expensive.
Depends on the market. During COVID they were ordering everything. Now it appears inventory has backed up to overflowing proportions. Due to OEM's all but demanding dealership's accept deliveries/allotments. Certain brands have certain models that sell as fast as they are in transit. Other OEM's are not so fortunate. Particularly those that focus only on expensive hight profit vehicles. They are the ones feeling the pinch.
Biggest problem is their too damn expensive.. But…… those big trucks need the 5.0 V8
Command any price you want Ford. Us folks with the wallet will whisper, and walk away. Let them eat them. Time to charge 30 k again.
That Raptor looks cheap with the Pep Boys type fender flares. As far as off-road, it's too wide for most trails and weighs too much for serious offloading. Also, the V6 engines were failing, so reliability is questionable. The tires stick out so far that it's like the chassis wasn't designed to fit the body. As a former Phord owner, I would stay away from the brand unless you like visiting the service department.
There were like 25 2021 v6 engines that had bad valves from theirsupplie. That was it. You know, media and shit makes it out to be more than it was. Its not an issue.
😂 I'll just keep saving😂 that's what WE ALL SHOULD BE DOING . Soon they'll be begging us to buy when 50% off hits
They won't sell till they get 75% off
paying $700/month for 7 years for a Ford that a Ford Tech youtuber excitedly reported "we think these engines will go 130k miles" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I recently looked at a 23 ..2K over sticker ..wouldn't budge on the price.. and wouldn't even let me take it on a short test drive
They want 2,000$ over sticker and they won't let you test drive these shit boxes!!!??? That's freaking nuts!! These things are all over the place in my town and I don't understand it. I would love to have one of the old ones done up in a resto mod rebuild but it's 100,000K. No win.
I don't think that people are trying to be more practical in the way of buying a car or truck for its utilitarian use. I really think people are being priced out of the market. People are finding it hard to justify a very large car payment and watching their pennies alot closer.
I passed a dealership two days ago and I had to drop my glasses to make sure I saw the sales price hanging from the review mirror correctly. It was $93k!!! We own two $85k+ luxury cars and I would never consider spending that much money on a bronco. Never. $55k to $60k at best for its top trim.
Man I used to want a Bronco so badly in 2022 but dealerships were marking up by $10-$15K then lowballed me on the trade in.
Fast forward to 2024, Broncos in my area are $4000 discounted under MSRP and I make more than enough to afford one now. But guess what, screw that. Now I don’t even want one anymore. Ford dealerships ruined it for me. I’ll continue to drive my 4Runner and save a bunch of money 😊
Same with me... Lost the loving feeling...
Same here, I am actually happy to see these rot on dealer lots. I had a reservation on a Bronco Raptor, by the time it was actually built and delivered the MSRP when from 69k to 83k, then adding a 5k markup from the dealer that had the audacity to show me other dealers offering similar add ups, except mine was on a reservation. I walked away and couldn’t be happier. I have been trying to buy a Ford twice already and both times something had pushed me away from completing the purchase. Maybe I have to start listening to the whoever is looking after me from up above :)
People have extremely long memories when they recall the $15K dealer markups. I’m delighted they’re choking on inventory.
Plenty of fools signing that 8 year term with 8 percent APR. But will go around saying their payment is not to bad.
YES! THIS!!!!
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@@g.w.7893 tew
Interest rates are high, greed corporations are laying off folks. I recently got laid off and the person who laid me off got a promotion.
The pricing is obscene. They can keep them.
Bronco's share the same market as Jeep Wranglers. People who wanted them, probably already has them. It's a pretty niche market. You could daily drive these, but there are lot more vehicles at that price range that they are selling that are more comfortable and upscale.
...makes my 2021 Jeep Gladiator (Rubicon) a steal at $50,263 back then (new) -- I think I'll keep it. ;-)
BTW, I never had (and still don't) have any interest in a Ford Bronco...
-- BR
@@billredding2000 The Bronco is a very niche vehicle, but so is the Gladiator.
@@steve8803 Well, for me the Jeep Gladiator (Rubicon) was the ONLY (I was restricted to the MID-size segment) vehicle that would meet my needs. Glad I got m,ne when I did...but if I wanted to get a new vehicle TODAY (again, mid-size segment only) I'd get another Gladiator (Rubicon).
And it's still factory/OEM stock...but DID get a Mopar Extended Warranty on it just before my 3-year/36K miles factory warranty expired -- just in case. I'm good until mid-2029. Will see what new vehicles are out then (if I don't keep keep my Gladiator indefinitely?
Or, I may move (retire) to The Villages (Florida), sell the Jeep and only own a golf-car (20-mph max speed!)...but then those are "niche vehicles" as well, aren't they.
Hmmm...I think I'm seeing a pattern here with my vehicle choices of late. ;-)
"Jeep Wave"
-- BR
Dead sales due to wildly overpriced vehicles with NO reliability history, lots of features that are added just to raise the price, and extremely high interest rates. Ignore the price and sell the payments (roll some negative equity for added effect) eventually prices all customers out of the buyers circle.
Henry Ford built the company on the premise that the automobile had to be priced well enough for the every day man to afford one. The bean counters and the C-suite executives have lost their way.
Lot rot soon
Saw one yesterday sitting dead in the middle lane of a busy street near my house with it's flashers on holding up traffic. Driver sitting there on his cell phone looking cool in Bronco.
I'm surprised the flashers worked....
All vehicles can run out of gas :) :)
Broke?
Just say it
How is the Bronco Sport doing?
isn't the fuel-injectors leaking in many of these cars/suvs?
Don’t worry , they paid our corrupt politicians to get a special carve out of legislation to allow a spout that allows them to dump fuel all over our roads. Very eco friendly solution they’re allowed to utilize. Imagine if the government saw you pouring gasoline out your window as your drove down the road. What do you think they would do to you?
long term reliability on these is dicey. Eco boost motors are iffy, and I hear there are issues with the transfer case. However, I think by far the biggest headwind for this truck is that nobody can afford it at the prices the dealer wants for them. People are already overspent. Who can afford a $100K offroading rig when a used Jeep will do?
Ford was so desperate to compete with Jeep Wrangler and to bring back their heritage off-roader. But you can't quickly start the production with a base model of around $35K and two or three years later reach $90K!! Let's be real here, who the hell can afford a toy to take off road at that price!!
Don't understand how the dealers are keeping the prices up whenever they aren't selling.
local dealer is finally having mavericks on the lot... all of them are 10 - 15k over priced. when msrp is 24k (was supposed be 20k) and the dealer prices it for 35k... that's an insane markup, not only dollar, but it's 45% !!!! ridiculous.
Or you can pay even more for an EV. And there you are supposed to save money on fueling? Who would care after paying that much. Ohhhhhh it's for the environment. A 4x4 that spends most of it's life in the shop? You need to wonder why people dislike car dealer people? Can already hear them saying 'will you be financing or trading in?' Naaa, I think the test drive is enough, the only thing worth the price.
Most people do not take new 4 wheel drives off road. They just like to look cool, but most of the time do not even need a 4 wheel drive.
They're the ones who whine the most, which hurts the product review.
They expect a Cadillac ride out of both the Broncos, as well as the Jeeps as well. 🙄
My 2023 Bronco works just fine, wind noise and all. 👍
*I am currently helping a woman with a 2023 Badlands who is on her 9th recall, about a total so far of 52 days without the car, and the VIN does NOT TIE OUT. I owned a ford once, first time last time. That was a Sport Trac. 4WD --- 5 transmissions later I sold it. SKULL AND CROSSBONES!*
I work two full time jobs and can’t bring myself to buy 7 dollar eggs. I would imagine that the average person is not looking to drop 50k on a new vehicle when gas prices are high and food is expensive. If it’s between a bronco with shit gas mileage and a 1k/month car payment or my 2014 Mazda with 201k miles getting 34 mpg and no car payments, i know what I’m sticking with.
We make good money and would never spend the cost of a Raptor. They lose about half their value in only 5 years and It’s almost worthless in 10 years.
Dealers screwed customers early with markups and now we're in a virtual recession and people can't afford a bronco that is really a specialized vehicle.
Please let me know when Ford installs a 5.0 in the Bronco. Then sign me up.
5.0L Coyote!
The 5.0 are now all cylinder deactivate models.