Aegon IV is such an anomaly given that his dad, brother, son, and eldest grandson are all some of the best Targaryens to ever live. I wonder if that contributed to his general terrible-ness, knowing that he couldn't measure up. Hopefully Young Griff breaks the even-numbered Aegons curse.
He measured up just fine as a youth he was a fine knight smart charismatic and beautiful...his vices and appetite for worldly things brought him to ruin.
Aegon l is the one to allow the targaryens to conquer westeros aegon lll allowed the realm to heal from the dance aegon V is the only one to have actually cared about the peasents whilst aegon ll started the war that killed the dragons and was a war criminal and aegon lV started the blackfyre rebellions which plagued the realm for 50 years While these kings were'nt all Black and white it is pretty obvious how the even number ones are worse then the odd ones@@steppecist
This is just my opinion, but not only do I think Aegon IV poisoned his father, but I think the reason why Aegon IV poisoned Viserys II is quite simple: Viserys was the last person who was controlling him. Perfect example, look at the mistresses of Aegon IV: He married off Aegon's first mistress to the master-at-arms at the Red Keep, Ser Lucas Lothston, and had her removed from court. He also put an end to Aegon's affair with his second mistress Megette and sent her back to her husband. As King, Aegon IV figured he could just do whatever he wanted with no one telling him what to do. It's the same reason he despised his son and heir Daeron II, because he dared to speak against him and call him out.
I find it interesting nobody accuses Dena of killing visarys IMO she has more of a motive to kill him then aegon 4 does , for one visarys userped her using her sex and the great council to justify himself now of course I don't think visarys 2 did it because he hates women more likely he did it to protect his family and to prevent war but Dena wouldn't see it that way , considering that she named her son after her grandfather it's possible that she actually admired her grandparents maybe even saw them as tragic heros and perhaps saw herself in her grandmother and hated her uncle from taking what she felt was rightfully hers , she couldn't overthrown her uncle on a dragon like rhenyrea and she couldn't weld a sword like daemon but there are other ways to kill your enemies after all poison is said to be a woman's weapon and what's more defiant then killing a king who is also your uncle?
Aegon IV: Build me fire-spewing dragons. Maesters: For defense capitol? -NO. Transport them across the mountains and attack Dorne. Ghost of Aegon the Conqueror: I could have used a condom...
@@yggdrasil2 I think it is pretty obivous that he wasnt stupid at all.Just a spiteful piece of shit.He is just lazy and indulgent but he is obivously not stupid and weak in a way that other incapable Targeryans were despite being the 2nd worst king other than Aerys
@@LukaPavlovic1 and still pretty stupid to add to that, imagine creating fake dragons with real fire on it out of wood, but yeah his worst quality is his spitefulness. This alone made him worse than Aerys or at least his reign is worse than Aerys's as the Unworthy literally did nothing correctly, something even Aerys is not capable of doing
@@taylortanner37 To be fair, we're never given more details on how they were designed. The Pyromancers who presumably built the things weren't stupid, they must've tried to strike a middle ground between practicality and Aegon's vision for the things. Greek fire (our more tame version of wildfire) was primarily used in naval warfare to burn wooden ships, though it was deployed through metal tubes, or in glass grenades.
IMO, Aegon IV is the worst Targaryen king, even worse than Aerys II. Aerys WANTED to be a good king, he was merely incompetent at it. He was at least smart enough to hire one of the best Hands ever to help him out, only to get jealous, and then go insane. From the very moment he was born, Aegon seemed to want to actively ruin anything and everything around him purely out of a mix of spite and hedonism.
Plus at least, you could make the argument that for the most part, Aerys' evil was kind out of his own control, as it was a mental condition he had because of the Targaryan's constant incest at that point.
@@quakethedoombringer well considering how Naerys didn’t even want to get pregnant because of how sickly she always was, I doubt Aemon, who is said to have been noble, pious and loved her would’ve even had sex with her, let alone gotten her pregnant.
@@Dell-ol6hb i mean, just because she is pious doesn't mean that she doesn't lead a unromantic and sexless life. Also it's not like she can get away with living childless, considering her husband is basically the medieval version of Eric Cartman
@quakethedoombringer Aegon IV's own father seemed to be a good man, even if he was stern and cynical. Viserys II was probably the most intelligent person to ever sit the Iron Throne and he kept his broken family together and they crumbled when he died. Viserys II is Daeron II's grandfather no matter what, but Aegon IV seems to be the anomaly, although one could argue that he had similarities to his own grandfather Daemon
It's logically reasonable too and something I'd be supportive of. Considering how his "subtle romance" with Naerys was mentioned, it's likely Aemon had a short affair with Naerys, getting her pregnant in the process, shortly before Aegon IV came in and he took his Kingsguard oath. It's also possible that Naerys' other children with Aegon might be Aemon's as well, considering how Aegon IV was busying himself with his mistresses.
Hearing about the mistresses is just downright sad man. That poor fourteen year old girl who got raped and given an STI, the blacksmiths wife who was just a sex slave… it is all so depressing
Aegon IV just seems so incredibly nasty from the pictures of him, and his actions during his reign proved how nasty he could be. Great work on this series, looking forward to the next one
The thing is that his reign is so pathetic (until the Blackfire Rebellion). Maegor and Aerys II are dangerous because you never knew when they would unleash hell on the seven kingdom. Aegon IV just likes to torment people who either 1) couldn't physically and politically fight him back (lower born young women) or 2) people who don't want to fight him because they value family love and integrity more (his son and brother). His entire personality is to spite people because they don't reciprocate his feelings
If Aegon IV would’ve died from anything before his wedding, Aemon would’ve gone on to become one of the greatest Targaryen Kings & the Blackfyres would’ve never been an issue.
Unfortunately aemon wouldn't become king because he was kings guard before aegon even became king actually it's really hard to say what would have happened to house Targaryen at that point they only had girls left ether daeron 2 becomes king early or one of aegon 3s daughters become queen.
@@thatoneblackdude33331) There's a theory that Viserys II wanted his grandson to take over instead of his son and intended to disinherit Aegon 4 but was poisoned before he could; so either we have Aegon 4 die earlier than 171-2 or Daeron is made primary heir. 2) Aegon 3's kids becoming Queen is interesting but given the precedent of Rhaenyra I & the DOTD's legacy, I don't think most nobles would like that; Daena can't be Queen as she sired an illegitimate child (Daemon Waters; aka Daemon Blackfyre), Rhaena would've been OK and so would Elaena but they had no allies as Baelor stuck them in a vault for a decade.
Usually the Targaryen Kings always had problems when it came to choosing their successors and thus they created a lot of wars or conflicts that plague Westeros for many years to come, but the Aegon the Unworthy spits in the face of both his Father and Uncle trauma of the Dance of the Dragons when he purposefully name all of his bastard children as legalized Targaryen, and he probably thought that both his sons Daeron and Daemon will be in each other throats for the kingship of the Iron Throne.
6:30 Viserys II is in the top 3 Targaryen kings in my opinion. Most likely Viserys saw what a monster Aegon was, and planned to disinherit him, most likely in favor of Daeron. Aegon somehow found out, and that’s why he poisoned him.
I don’t know why it never occurred to me that Aegon had neither the inclination to rule nor the competence to successfully poison his father without anyone (outside of rumors) noticing. Maybe someone had tried to poison Aegon (he loved to eat, it would be easy to hide it in his meals), but it went wrong and killed Viserys instead.
It is honestly astonishing that there wasn’t a massive rebellion from discontent lords during Aegon IV’s reign, because him taking land from one house and giving them to another is crazy and seems like something that they wouldn’t tolerate, like lords in Westeros have rebelled for lesser slights than that.
The rhealms were relatively weak after going through a civil and conquest war in the span of around thirty years.Also take into account there exagerated version of Winter.
Aegon IV always reminded me of the emperor Nero of the early Roman Empire. Both made terrible damage to their dynasty, both are suspected to have conspired against their fathers and after their deads a series of civil war started in their territories.
@@silverwolfe3636 I mean, the womanizer part and dying due to fatness is similar to the story of Henry VIII, the legitimise all his bastards part is different tho.
@@altinaykor364 why ? He killed his wife by impregnanting her when maesters said it would kill her,as a kid he his his brother incrade with dragon egg in head as a kid he was already not righ he was handsome when he qas young but then he got fat
@@queenxx1690 well, I'm sorry but causing the death of your wife during pregnancy, is no where near the way Henry VIII treated his wives and what he did to some of them+the amount of body count he had outside of his wives.
Awesome video!!! Aegon the Unworthy setting up the Blackfyre Rebellions, my favorite part of ASOIAF history. I hope one day you might be able to do a video on the History of the Nightfort. Not too many videos on the history and lore that goes on there. Might make for a good Halloween video with all the horrors that go on there. The Nights King, the Rat Cook, Mad Axe, the Thing that came at Night and many more.
@@myturn926 hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha. That's actually funny! But also I don't think they would want to choose him as their rider. They would've been like I know we accept Targaryens since they have the blood of old vilyria and don't burn them but he's an exception and burned him like a roasted pig.
imagine this, he has a dragon, he flies high enough and then jump from the dragon to the ground, literal hydrogen bomb, the Seven Kingdoms now have WMDs. As such all the cookies and treats in the seven kingdoms belong to him by right
According to the books Baelor sended Aegon to that diplomatic mission to Bravos ( Where he meet The black pearl) to as a favour to Naerys, to give her a break of the suffering of her unhappy marriage and so she can recover from a stillbirth that almost cost her live.
I've been diving into Targaryen lore thanks to HOTD and really appreciate you putting a spoiler warning for the show so that I can learn about the history surrounding it without giving away the show's ending! Loving your vids, they're informative and very entertaining.
This man might be Unworthy, but at least he wasn’t stupid enough to piss off 3 Lord Paramounts and alienate his most loyal and capable Vassal. Looking at you Aerys.
I don't buy at all the theory that Brynden loved his brother Daemon. Him being so loyal to the trueborn Targaryen and so adamantly against the Blackfyres contradicts it
it definitely adds a layer of tragedy to the Rebellions of Daemon is the brother he loved. And it wouldn’t be far fetched to say that because of Daemon attempting to usurp the throne from Daeron it caused him to be so unrelenting against any Blackfyre since. Imagine being betrayed by the brother you loved and cared about because your other the half brother you hated was whispering poison in his ear?
@@turtleguyfan Brinden loving the brother who was in veeeeery good terms with Bittersteel instead of the one who was in good terms with his mother despite her being a mistress of his father? I think Martin left a lot of hinds of Bloodraven living Daeron
@@turtleguyfan I mean, it kinda adds nothing to his character no?? he is, in fact, the counterpart of bittersteel. Both are bastards that support their brothers and did not crown themselves(for various reasons) and brynden is a person who told daeron that daemon i is about to rebel in a month which leads to daeron sending his KG to arrest daemon i, not to mention, he literally do a tactical strategy to kill him by shot his son first too and advice daeron(and his descendants) to do harsh punishments against pretenders. and let’s not forget the famously word he once said in the mystery knight “You would be surprised to know how many lords prefer their kings brave and stupid. Daemon is young and dashing and looks good on a horse.” even though he referred to daemon ii, it also applies to daemon i too. From all of these, not so sure this was an act that he should do to his “loving brother” tbh
@@nicokrasnow1851 just cause he was on good terms with bittersteel doesn’t mean Brynden would hate daemon inherently. It could be a case of “hey you shouldn’t listen to him, he’s nothing but trouble and you can’t trust him.” This is all speculation anyways. The brother Brynden loved doesn’t exclusively have to be Daemon, he could love Daeron alongside but just mean Daemon in this case and regret how it all played out.
Its actually funny. All those that argue that rhaenyra should be queen because her father said so, should also wish for the blackfyres replacing the targs because it was aegons will. Inheritance in a monarchy is messy. Was there even one succesion that didnt included a lot of blood and people diieng in westeros?
I doubt it. The little shit seemed really uninterested in anything beside himself. Aegon's whims directed his attention to and fro this or that mistress, misdeed, or mistake. Meanwhile, Joffrey was always focused on Joffrey. Aegon's cruelties were also less bloody-handed. Sure, the Unworthy did his fair share of injustices directed towards a lot of people, but maiming, torture, and execution seemed to take a secondary role, and there was a certain method to his madness. Joffrey on the other hand was utterly unpredictable. His interest in women and sex appeared nonexistent, and he was probably more turned on by ordering someone killed than by a pretty face. I mean, even when he does show any desire (like when he groped Sansa during her wedding to Tyrion), it's motivated by a desire to torment and hurt rather than any kind of lust. So yeah, Joffrey wouldn't have been like Aegon IV... he would have been worse.
Aegon the Unworthy wins my simple metric for who was the worst king. He interfered with the previous regime for the worse (fathering a bastard with the queen, potentially poisoning Viserys), his rule was bad and fostered a horrible culture in the court and finally, his treatment of his bastards and his own son would lead the realm into ruin in the near future. He fails past, present and future for his rule. Other derided kings usually mess up one or two.
I think Aegon IV is the most interesting king. Other Targaryen kings - Maegor the Cruel and Aerys II - stand out as more egregious examples of bad kings, but something about Aegon is particularly vile. He’s so petty and small-minded, and his inadvertent cause of the Blackfyre Rebellions caused grief for over one hundred years. Tyrion’s wedding gift was so ridiculously perfect , Joffrey probably could have learned much from reading about Aegon the Unworthy.
Tbf, Baelor wasnt stupid in sending Aegon on a diplomatic mission. He -was- capable of being charming and more importantly, its said he only sent Aegon so he would leave Naerys alone so she could recover from childbirth
I headcanon that Aenys and Maegor actually did get along when they were young and were relatively close. I think Maegor probably always intended to secede Aenys and didn't tell him, but they didn't have problems with each other until Maegor took a second wife and got exiled. Even after that, I bet Aenys viewed Maegor in a similar way as how Viserys viewed Daemon. He always wanted to reconcile. Maegor was bitter about his being exiled, but he never tried to take arms up against his half-brother.
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things also ottoman sultan mehmed II was grandfather at 30 and had 18 years old granddaughter when he passed away at age 48 if he lived a bit longer he could of done similar thing to Visery II and if i remember mehmed II had his first son Bayezid II at 15 but his oldest kid at 14 which was his daughter
wondering what rhaena and morning are doing at this time also theory i think that rhaena and her six hightower daughters were the last dragonowners until dany because we know morning layed dragons eggs and obivously who would rhaena gives these dragons eggs to. Plus wanna find who rhaena's daughter married since they got some solid targaryen blood in them. One more thing the last dragon who was sickly with emerald scales was owned/ridden by one of rhaena's six daughters.love the vids
he might have. 1 of his acknowledged mistresses, Lady Jeyne Lothston, was the daughter of his previous mistress, lady Halena Stokeworth, who seduced Aegon as a teenager. in 151 Aegon's father wed Lady Falena to Lucas Lothston and sent her from court, though Aegon frequently visited her at Harrenhal over a two year period. Aegon seduced Lady Jeyne when she was 14, and though the year was 178, who's to say Aegon and Falena didn't have a dalliance in the 160s that went unrecorded or unnoticed?
Aegon could’ve murdered his father because knowing the type of man his son was was going to relieve the dragon knight of his vows and make him heir or even skip Aegon altogether and make Daeron his heir. There are many reasons he “could” have killed the king
Didn't Baelor send Aegon IV away on that diplomatic mission to Braavos so he would at least for the time being stop trying to impregnate Naerys because he knew another pregnancy would have killed her?
Honestly I think Aegon may have been telling the truth the entire time about Daeron. Nobody believed him because nobody liked him and everyone liked Daeron. Remember histroy doesnt remember BLOOD it remembers NAMES. Because Daeron was given the name Targaryen despite possibly being a bastard and having literally NO WAY of proving one way or the other means its hard to remove the name Targaryen from him. Meanwhile Daemon chooses to Name himself Blackfyre which ends up creating a Narrative that the Blackfyres are these "Others" and aren't equal to Targaryens despite both Daeron (bastard or not) and Daemon having Targaryens as both their Mother and Father. They both are 100% Targaryen and it would be totally GRRM if the Seven Kingdoms this entire time hated and had Bias against bastards mostly becauze of the Blackfyres only for the readers to find out that Daeron and Daemon were BOTH bastards with Daemon being the actual heir
A real messed up family, brother bedding sister, another brother fathering her bastard, the first brother fathering a bastard by his cousin, and fathering more.
Its possible that Aegon IV had his father poisoned because he found out that Visery II planned on passing him over for the throne in favor of his son Daeon II. Given what a mess of a man Aegon already was as the crown prince, its not out of the question that Viserys II really did not want him to be his successor. Aegon IV may have also poisoned his cousin Baelor in order to be one step closer to the Iron Throne.
I don't think ether was really possible the real only way to have prevented it was keeping deamon close and maybe marrying one of his grandchildren to one of deamons kids since he had a shit ton to spare for marriage.
It won’t work imo, he legitimize all of his bastards to make sure that every acknowledge bastards had claims to the iron thorne, not just daemon. Things that can truly avoid blackfyre rebellion is delegitimize them or took the blackfyre sword back. He can undo all bs that his father did, after all he’s the king but he didn’t Not saying he’s stupid though, I do understand that he wanted to be better than his father but that’s clearly fatal mistakes that leads to major civil war even it wasn’t his fault
Wow after listening to this, we can see why by the time of Game of Thrones, the realm was just fed up with the Targaryens and Robert Barratheon was ready to end them all. . GRRM truly has created a medieval soap opera of a story. I really hope they do House of the Dragon all the way up to Roberts's Rebellion.
A young king having children isn’t actually out of the question, although Viserys II is a bit out there. At the age of 15, Louis XV of France was married to the 22 year old Marie Leszczyńska, daughter of the then dispossessed King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania, Stanisław I. Their first child, Louise-Élisabeth (who would be their only daughter to have children of her own, out of 8 daughters), was conceived when Louis was only 16.
No he wasn’t, he was constantly trying to curb his bad habits, like everytime he caught Aegon with a mistress he got rid of them, it’s probably why he poisoned Viserys, because Viserys was the only one who had the authority over him to keep him from doing whatever the hell he wanted, as king he had absolutely nobody above him
I hope that the show is finished skipping time and actually see the opportunity to have 8-10 season show where after the dance with dragons they can continue the whole Targaryen storyline up towards the mad king or atleast right before it and make the mad king a HBO movie.. a lot of possibilities a lot of storyline to be told alot of spin off shows
If all of the Targaryen were in a contest for how many dragon seeds they have Aegon would take the top Place Dragon Seeds if anyone doesn't know are Bastard children they are said they arw to be gifted with the genres that Gives the Targaryen the abilite to control and ride Dragons
Aegon IV is such an anomaly given that his dad, brother, son, and eldest grandson are all some of the best Targaryens to ever live. I wonder if that contributed to his general terrible-ness, knowing that he couldn't measure up. Hopefully Young Griff breaks the even-numbered Aegons curse.
He wanted to be different so bad 😭
He measured up just fine as a youth he was a fine knight smart charismatic and beautiful...his vices and appetite for worldly things brought him to ruin.
Even numbered Targaryen curse? I think odd numbered are worse statistically
Idk, I think Aegon VI's reign will be a short and destructive one once dany arrives
Aegon l is the one to allow the targaryens to conquer westeros aegon lll allowed the realm to heal from the dance aegon V is the only one to have actually cared about the peasents whilst aegon ll started the war that killed the dragons and was a war criminal and aegon lV started the blackfyre rebellions which plagued the realm for 50 years
While these kings were'nt all Black and white it is pretty obvious how the even number ones are worse then the odd ones@@steppecist
I always imagined Aegon the Unworthy to sound like Cartman, specifically the line "Screw you, I do what I want!"
Respec my Authority
Whatever! Whatever! I do what I want!
Okay now I can't stop imagine Aemon The Dragon Knight as Kyle
@@ucnguyenanh9414 lol he's always punching Aegon
I always thought of him as sounding blubbery.
This is just my opinion, but not only do I think Aegon IV poisoned his father, but I think the reason why Aegon IV poisoned Viserys II is quite simple: Viserys was the last person who was controlling him. Perfect example, look at the mistresses of Aegon IV: He married off Aegon's first mistress to the master-at-arms at the Red Keep, Ser Lucas Lothston, and had her removed from court. He also put an end to Aegon's affair with his second mistress Megette and sent her back to her husband. As King, Aegon IV figured he could just do whatever he wanted with no one telling him what to do. It's the same reason he despised his son and heir Daeron II, because he dared to speak against him and call him out.
Great points. Im convinced.
For a guy like Aegon IV this makes the most sense.
I find it interesting nobody accuses Dena of killing visarys IMO she has more of a motive to kill him then aegon 4 does , for one visarys userped her using her sex and the great council to justify himself now of course I don't think visarys 2 did it because he hates women more likely he did it to protect his family and to prevent war but Dena wouldn't see it that way , considering that she named her son after her grandfather it's possible that she actually admired her grandparents maybe even saw them as tragic heros and perhaps saw herself in her grandmother and hated her uncle from taking what she felt was rightfully hers , she couldn't overthrown her uncle on a dragon like rhenyrea and she couldn't weld a sword like daemon but there are other ways to kill your enemies after all poison is said to be a woman's weapon and what's more defiant then killing a king who is also your uncle?
Aegon IV: Build me fire-spewing dragons.
Maesters: For defense capitol?
-NO. Transport them across the mountains and attack Dorne.
Ghost of Aegon the Conqueror: I could have used a condom...
Aegon the Unworthy is the epitome of leading with his brainless head rather than the one on his shoulders.
I don't think that one had a brain either...
@@yggdrasil2 true. Too bad he had more balls than braincells. Wooden wildfire breathing dragons.
@@yggdrasil2 I think it is pretty obivous that he wasnt stupid at all.Just a spiteful piece of shit.He is just lazy and indulgent but he is obivously not stupid and weak in a way that other incapable Targeryans were despite being the 2nd worst king other than Aerys
@@LukaPavlovic1 and still pretty stupid to add to that, imagine creating fake dragons with real fire on it out of wood, but yeah his worst quality is his spitefulness. This alone made him worse than Aerys or at least his reign is worse than Aerys's as the Unworthy literally did nothing correctly, something even Aerys is not capable of doing
@@taylortanner37 To be fair, we're never given more details on how they were designed. The Pyromancers who presumably built the things weren't stupid, they must've tried to strike a middle ground between practicality and Aegon's vision for the things. Greek fire (our more tame version of wildfire) was primarily used in naval warfare to burn wooden ships, though it was deployed through metal tubes, or in glass grenades.
"...because Aegon the Unworthy sucked so much balls." Shocked a loud and hearty laugh out of me, thanks for that
IMO, Aegon IV is the worst Targaryen king, even worse than Aerys II. Aerys WANTED to be a good king, he was merely incompetent at it. He was at least smart enough to hire one of the best Hands ever to help him out, only to get jealous, and then go insane. From the very moment he was born, Aegon seemed to want to actively ruin anything and everything around him purely out of a mix of spite and hedonism.
Plus at least, you could make the argument that for the most part, Aerys' evil was kind out of his own control, as it was a mental condition he had because of the Targaryan's constant incest at that point.
@@vardiganxpl1698 And also...Duskendale
Even GRRM agrees. Aegon 4 really is a nasty piece of work
Aegon was just a terrible person, he made everyone’s lives a living hell.
@@jjs1300000 I see your Aegon, and raise you Queen Rhenera (Read Blood and Fire by GRRM and you will discover why 😉)
The Viserys I jabs are what I live for on this channel
Poor Naerys... A good woman with a sad life and horrible fate. Her son took after her: a good and honourable man!❤
What are the odds of Daeron is actually not Aegon's son, hence why he turns out so decent
@@quakethedoombringer well considering how Naerys didn’t even want to get pregnant because of how sickly she always was, I doubt Aemon, who is said to have been noble, pious and loved her would’ve even had sex with her, let alone gotten her pregnant.
@@Dell-ol6hb i mean, just because she is pious doesn't mean that she doesn't lead a unromantic and sexless life. Also it's not like she can get away with living childless, considering her husband is basically the medieval version of Eric Cartman
@@quakethedoombringer It literally does mean that
@quakethedoombringer Aegon IV's own father seemed to be a good man, even if he was stern and cynical. Viserys II was probably the most intelligent person to ever sit the Iron Throne and he kept his broken family together and they crumbled when he died. Viserys II is Daeron II's grandfather no matter what, but Aegon IV seems to be the anomaly, although one could argue that he had similarities to his own grandfather Daemon
I think Daeron II sometimes wished he really was Aemon's son rather than Aegon IV's.
Honestly wouldn’t be surprised if
Better the bastard of the dragon knight than son of the unworthy.
@@augustineirigoyen4400the dragon knight that is more of a father figure to him than his biological father
It's logically reasonable too and something I'd be supportive of. Considering how his "subtle romance" with Naerys was mentioned, it's likely Aemon had a short affair with Naerys, getting her pregnant in the process, shortly before Aegon IV came in and he took his Kingsguard oath. It's also possible that Naerys' other children with Aegon might be Aemon's as well, considering how Aegon IV was busying himself with his mistresses.
Aegon was his father, but Aemon was his daddy
5:09 You know your family is messed up when Aegon is technically correct and that is what Targaryen siblings are.
Hearing about the mistresses is just downright sad man. That poor fourteen year old girl who got raped and given an STI, the blacksmiths wife who was just a sex slave… it is all so depressing
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Its not real lol, just a story
@@noahark1038 a story based off of things that happen in real life, and stories are written to make us feel something anyway.
@@noahark1038 so??
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Wheres the evidence that it happened in real life.
Aegon IV just seems so incredibly nasty from the pictures of him, and his actions during his reign proved how nasty he could be. Great work on this series, looking forward to the next one
The thing is that his reign is so pathetic (until the Blackfire Rebellion). Maegor and Aerys II are dangerous because you never knew when they would unleash hell on the seven kingdom. Aegon IV just likes to torment people who either 1) couldn't physically and politically fight him back (lower born young women) or 2) people who don't want to fight him because they value family love and integrity more (his son and brother). His entire personality is to spite people because they don't reciprocate his feelings
He was a living embodiment of the Seven Deadly Sins.
12 years!!!!!! That’s it!!! That man sat the iron throne for 12 years and did all that damage!!!!
Not hard to believe, you can see the damage presidents and PMs can do with far less control and time.
It’s easy to mess things up. Some do it by accident.
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Yea dude a lot can happen in 12 years. That's almost a generation.
It’s pretty crazy, I swear 12 years in my life is like a life time of shit that’s happened
At least he gave his son and heir Daeron II a good example of how NOT to rule a kingdom.
So Aegon the unworthy is pretty much an Eric Cartman character.
If Aegon IV would’ve died from anything before his wedding, Aemon would’ve gone on to become one of the greatest Targaryen Kings & the Blackfyres would’ve never been an issue.
Unfortunately aemon wouldn't become king because he was kings guard before aegon even became king actually it's really hard to say what would have happened to house Targaryen at that point they only had girls left ether daeron 2 becomes king early or one of aegon 3s daughters become queen.
He would have been absolved from his vows by the High Septon
@@maishaahmed915 ye
@@thatoneblackdude33331) There's a theory that Viserys II wanted his grandson to take over instead of his son and intended to disinherit Aegon 4 but was poisoned before he could; so either we have Aegon 4 die earlier than 171-2 or Daeron is made primary heir.
2) Aegon 3's kids becoming Queen is interesting but given the precedent of Rhaenyra I & the DOTD's legacy, I don't think most nobles would like that; Daena can't be Queen as she sired an illegitimate child (Daemon Waters; aka Daemon Blackfyre), Rhaena would've been OK and so would Elaena but they had no allies as Baelor stuck them in a vault for a decade.
Usually the Targaryen Kings always had problems when it came to choosing their successors and thus they created a lot of wars or conflicts that plague Westeros for many years to come, but the Aegon the Unworthy spits in the face of both his Father and Uncle trauma of the Dance of the Dragons when he purposefully name all of his bastard children as legalized Targaryen, and he probably thought that both his sons Daeron and Daemon will be in each other throats for the kingship of the Iron Throne.
Aegon IV on his deathbed: I'm about to do what's called a " pro gamer move". 😏
6:30 Viserys II is in the top 3 Targaryen kings in my opinion. Most likely Viserys saw what a monster Aegon was, and planned to disinherit him, most likely in favor of Daeron. Aegon somehow found out, and that’s why he poisoned him.
I like to think that Aegon sucked so much, no one would blame Naerys if she really did cheat on him with Aemon
To think that even his own "son" Daeron would be happy to learn that (kinda like Myrcella and Jaime)
If anything good can be said of Aegon the Unworthy it's that he taught Daeron how NOT to rule a realm
The sibling dynamic with Aegon, Aemon, and Naerys always interested me.
I don’t know why it never occurred to me that Aegon had neither the inclination to rule nor the competence to successfully poison his father without anyone (outside of rumors) noticing.
Maybe someone had tried to poison Aegon (he loved to eat, it would be easy to hide it in his meals), but it went wrong and killed Viserys instead.
It is honestly astonishing that there wasn’t a massive rebellion from discontent lords during Aegon IV’s reign, because him taking land from one house and giving them to another is crazy and seems like something that they wouldn’t tolerate, like lords in Westeros have rebelled for lesser slights than that.
The rhealms were relatively weak after going through a civil and conquest war in the span of around thirty years.Also take into account there exagerated version of Winter.
Aegon IV always reminded me of the emperor Nero of the early Roman Empire. Both made terrible damage to their dynasty, both are suspected to have conspired against their fathers and after their deads a series of civil war started in their territories.
He reminds me of Donald Trump
@@killlamas57 But with beard XD
I thought Aegon IV was based heavily on Henry VIII.
@@silverwolfe3636 I mean, the womanizer part and dying due to fatness is similar to the story of Henry VIII, the legitimise all his bastards part is different tho.
@@darkphoenix2745 I also thought the change from being a handsome, athletic, and charismatic young prince/king to being old, fat and lecherous too.
*Crusader Chris back with another banger! Love these video essay's dude* 👍
He was probably based on Henry VIII
Love me some king Henry 8th
if you remove the body count part
@@altinaykor364 why ? He killed his wife by impregnanting her when maesters said it would kill her,as a kid he his his brother incrade with dragon egg in head as a kid he was already not righ he was handsome when he qas young but then he got fat
@@queenxx1690 well, I'm sorry but causing the death of your wife during pregnancy, is no where near the way Henry VIII treated his wives and what he did to some of them+the amount of body count he had outside of his wives.
I'd say Maegor is more like Henry VIII with a bit of Ivan the terrible mixed in.
Broo that glidus reference was hilarious. Best crossover i didnt know i need. Great vid like always Chris, you've got a great voice for narration.
Seven Thanks for such a wonderful belated 32nd Name Day for me mate. It's perfect 😁
On the relationship side:
Aegon IV - Fire Lord Ozai
Aemon - Uncle Iroh
Daeron II - Prince Zuko
At least Ozai was competent. Aegon is literally named unworthy.
Go talk about your wind kid cartoon somewhere else...
Ozai knew how to run a kingdom, at least somewhat effectively, Aegon IV was just a moronic, narcissistic, sex pest
Bro you’re my favorite Asoiaf yt. I’ve been waiting on The Unworthy vid let’s get it !!
Damn, the Targaryens really did destroy themselves. 😂
Frankly, it's amazing they lasted that long without dragons.
@@kaminsod4077Approximately 130 years post-dance!
17:50 this entire video being so reserved and then dropping "this guy sucked so much balls" is peak comedy
Awesome video!!! Aegon the Unworthy setting up the Blackfyre Rebellions, my favorite part of ASOIAF history.
I hope one day you might be able to do a video on the History of the Nightfort. Not too many videos on the history and lore that goes on there. Might make for a good Halloween video with all the horrors that go on there. The Nights King, the Rat Cook, Mad Axe, the Thing that came at Night and many more.
Also it's a good thing this Aegon didn't have access to dragons, might not have ended well.
For dragon 😂. The weight it would have to pull
@@myturn926 hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha.
That's actually funny!
But also I don't think they would want to choose him as their rider.
They would've been like I know we accept Targaryens since they have the blood of old vilyria and don't burn them but he's an exception and burned him like a roasted pig.
imagine this, he has a dragon, he flies high enough and then jump from the dragon to the ground, literal hydrogen bomb, the Seven Kingdoms now have WMDs. As such all the cookies and treats in the seven kingdoms belong to him by right
The GOAT Crusader Chris steady with the amazing content.
According to the books Baelor sended Aegon to that diplomatic mission to Bravos ( Where he meet The black pearl) to as a favour to Naerys, to give her a break of the suffering of her unhappy marriage and so she can recover from a stillbirth that almost cost her live.
I've been diving into Targaryen lore thanks to HOTD and really appreciate you putting a spoiler warning for the show so that I can learn about the history surrounding it without giving away the show's ending! Loving your vids, they're informative and very entertaining.
Pleaaseeee never stop making these!!
This man might be Unworthy, but at least he wasn’t stupid enough to piss off 3 Lord Paramounts and alienate his most loyal and capable Vassal. Looking at you Aerys.
Can’t wait for the king Daeron II vid bro love your content keep it up💪🏽
love when you’re upload
I don't buy at all the theory that Brynden loved his brother Daemon. Him being so loyal to the trueborn Targaryen and so adamantly against the Blackfyres contradicts it
it definitely adds a layer of tragedy to the Rebellions of Daemon is the brother he loved. And it wouldn’t be far fetched to say that because of Daemon attempting to usurp the throne from Daeron it caused him to be so unrelenting against any Blackfyre since. Imagine being betrayed by the brother you loved and cared about because your other the half brother you hated was whispering poison in his ear?
@@turtleguyfan Brinden loving the brother who was in veeeeery good terms with Bittersteel instead of the one who was in good terms with his mother despite her being a mistress of his father? I think Martin left a lot of hinds of Bloodraven living Daeron
@@turtleguyfan I mean, it kinda adds nothing to his character no?? he is, in fact, the counterpart of bittersteel. Both are bastards that support their brothers and did not crown themselves(for various reasons) and brynden is a person who told daeron that daemon i is about to rebel in a month which leads to daeron sending his KG to arrest daemon i, not to mention, he literally do a tactical strategy to kill him by shot his son first too and advice daeron(and his descendants) to do harsh punishments against pretenders.
and let’s not forget the famously word he once said in the mystery knight
“You would be surprised to know how many lords prefer their kings brave and stupid. Daemon is young and dashing and looks good on a horse.” even though he referred to daemon ii, it also applies to daemon i too. From all of these, not so sure this was an act that he should do to his “loving brother” tbh
@@nicokrasnow1851 just cause he was on good terms with bittersteel doesn’t mean Brynden would hate daemon inherently. It could be a case of “hey you shouldn’t listen to him, he’s nothing but trouble and you can’t trust him.” This is all speculation anyways. The brother Brynden loved doesn’t exclusively have to be Daemon, he could love Daeron alongside but just mean Daemon in this case and regret how it all played out.
I agree it makes no sense
The targaryens just show how a close relationship with your family is important and necessary, especially if that family is to run a kingdom
Really well done video!
yessss ive been waiting for this one !!
A great listen. I'll definitely be listening to your videos on the other kings of westeros
"And then descended into the seven hells"
Its actually funny. All those that argue that rhaenyra should be queen because her father said so, should also wish for the blackfyres replacing the targs because it was aegons will.
Inheritance in a monarchy is messy. Was there even one succesion that didnt included a lot of blood and people diieng in westeros?
I hope you keep going with this
Currently writing the Daeron II video. Will be done shortly after HOTD ends
Viserys II becoming a great grandfather before 50 years old is wild af 😂… that bloodline had that dawg in them
I’m so hype for the Daeron the good video!
And also, this is exactly how Joferry would have been as king
Lmao that's exactly what I was thinking, this is what would have happened if Joffery wasn't assassinated
@@Bobby__B Joffery wasnt the worst king because he has the descency to die before Tywin
I doubt it. The little shit seemed really uninterested in anything beside himself. Aegon's whims directed his attention to and fro this or that mistress, misdeed, or mistake. Meanwhile, Joffrey was always focused on Joffrey. Aegon's cruelties were also less bloody-handed. Sure, the Unworthy did his fair share of injustices directed towards a lot of people, but maiming, torture, and execution seemed to take a secondary role, and there was a certain method to his madness. Joffrey on the other hand was utterly unpredictable. His interest in women and sex appeared nonexistent, and he was probably more turned on by ordering someone killed than by a pretty face. I mean, even when he does show any desire (like when he groped Sansa during her wedding to Tyrion), it's motivated by a desire to torment and hurt rather than any kind of lust.
So yeah, Joffrey wouldn't have been like Aegon IV... he would have been worse.
@@thisrandomdude2880 at least he had the decency to die before tywin
Probably Viserys wanted to skip Aegon and name Daeron his direct heir. Aegon IV wasn't really happy about it and acted like the unworthy heir he was.
Aegon the Unworthy wins my simple metric for who was the worst king. He interfered with the previous regime for the worse (fathering a bastard with the queen, potentially poisoning Viserys), his rule was bad and fostered a horrible culture in the court and finally, his treatment of his bastards and his own son would lead the realm into ruin in the near future. He fails past, present and future for his rule. Other derided kings usually mess up one or two.
Where was Jaime when we needed him?
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
I cannot wait for Daeron the Good’s video!
I think Aegon IV is the most interesting king. Other Targaryen kings - Maegor the Cruel and Aerys II - stand out as more egregious examples of bad kings, but something about Aegon is particularly vile. He’s so petty and small-minded, and his inadvertent cause of the Blackfyre Rebellions caused grief for over one hundred years. Tyrion’s wedding gift was so ridiculously perfect , Joffrey probably could have learned much from reading about Aegon the Unworthy.
ngl, him being caught beating his baby brother in his crib with his own dragon egg was quite funny.
Tbf, Baelor wasnt stupid in sending Aegon on a diplomatic mission. He -was- capable of being charming and more importantly, its said he only sent Aegon so he would leave Naerys alone so she could recover from childbirth
I headcanon that Aenys and Maegor actually did get along when they were young and were relatively close. I think Maegor probably always intended to secede Aenys and didn't tell him, but they didn't have problems with each other until Maegor took a second wife and got exiled. Even after that, I bet Aenys viewed Maegor in a similar way as how Viserys viewed Daemon. He always wanted to reconcile. Maegor was bitter about his being exiled, but he never tried to take arms up against his half-brother.
First night must have had a new meaning with this guy.
Never clicked a notification faster 😅
another great video
We can clearly see GRRM's opinion of Henry VIII in his depiction of Aegon the Unworthy.
To be fair, Henry VIII was not a king you should admire
@@Lionstar16 50/50 id say aerys and aegon embody Henry vii the most if im honest one was a stand up king in his youth and the other just terrible
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things also ottoman sultan mehmed II was grandfather at 30 and had 18 years old granddaughter when he passed away at age 48 if he lived a bit longer he could of done similar thing to Visery II and if i remember mehmed II had his first son Bayezid II at 15 but his oldest kid at 14 which was his daughter
aegon the unworthy lowkey funny asf icl
wondering what rhaena and morning are doing at this time also theory i think that rhaena and her six hightower daughters were the last dragonowners until dany because we know morning layed dragons eggs and obivously who would rhaena gives these dragons eggs to. Plus wanna find who rhaena's daughter married since they got some solid targaryen blood in them. One more thing the last dragon who was sickly with emerald scales was owned/ridden by one of rhaena's six daughters.love the vids
Great video, good ser.
I am surprised that he didn't have his eyes on his own daughter
he might have. 1 of his acknowledged mistresses, Lady Jeyne Lothston, was the daughter of his previous mistress, lady Halena Stokeworth, who seduced Aegon as a teenager. in 151 Aegon's father wed Lady Falena to Lucas Lothston and sent her from court, though Aegon frequently visited her at Harrenhal over a two year period. Aegon seduced Lady Jeyne when she was 14, and though the year was 178, who's to say Aegon and Falena didn't have a dalliance in the 160s that went unrecorded or unnoticed?
Aegon could’ve murdered his father because knowing the type of man his son was was going to relieve the dragon knight of his vows and make him heir or even skip Aegon altogether and make Daeron his heir. There are many reasons he “could” have killed the king
Lets go!! I've been waiting for this fat bastards video. The start of peak in the history of the Targaryen line.
Aegon IV reminds me of Gargon the Guest. Too bad he didn’t go out the same way.
looking forward to watch a tv series about this Aegon :)
Didn't Baelor send Aegon IV away on that diplomatic mission to Braavos so he would at least for the time being stop trying to impregnate Naerys because he knew another pregnancy would have killed her?
Loved that line "the lesson here is targaryens never learn their lesson"
Aegon the Unworthy: *Constantly cheats on Naerys*
Also Aegon the Unworthy: Naerys is cheating on me, everyone!
Honestly I think Aegon may have been telling the truth the entire time about Daeron. Nobody believed him because nobody liked him and everyone liked Daeron. Remember histroy doesnt remember BLOOD it remembers NAMES. Because Daeron was given the name Targaryen despite possibly being a bastard and having literally NO WAY of proving one way or the other means its hard to remove the name Targaryen from him. Meanwhile Daemon chooses to Name himself Blackfyre which ends up creating a Narrative that the Blackfyres are these "Others" and aren't equal to Targaryens despite both Daeron (bastard or not) and Daemon having Targaryens as both their Mother and Father. They both are 100% Targaryen and it would be totally GRRM if the Seven Kingdoms this entire time hated and had Bias against bastards mostly becauze of the Blackfyres only for the readers to find out that Daeron and Daemon were BOTH bastards with Daemon being the actual heir
A real messed up family, brother bedding sister, another brother fathering her bastard, the first brother fathering a bastard by his cousin, and fathering more.
Love u crusader Chris ❤ur videos the best
Its possible that Aegon IV had his father poisoned because he found out that Visery II planned on passing him over for the throne in favor of his son Daeon II. Given what a mess of a man Aegon already was as the crown prince, its not out of the question that Viserys II really did not want him to be his successor. Aegon IV may have also poisoned his cousin Baelor in order to be one step closer to the Iron Throne.
Aegon was in exile while Baelor died, wasn't he? Other than that, i think its very likely he killed Viserys
always a great day when you upload chris !
Thanks Luis! I really appreciate you and your wonderful art
I feel like to avoid the Blackfyre Rebellion, Daeron should have made Dameon Hand of the King or Lord commander of the Kings-guard.
I don't think ether was really possible the real only way to have prevented it was keeping deamon close and maybe marrying one of his grandchildren to one of deamons kids since he had a shit ton to spare for marriage.
It won’t work imo, he legitimize all of his bastards to make sure that every acknowledge bastards had claims to the iron thorne, not just daemon. Things that can truly avoid blackfyre rebellion is delegitimize them or took the blackfyre sword back. He can undo all bs that his father did, after all he’s the king but he didn’t
Not saying he’s stupid though, I do understand that he wanted to be better than his father but that’s clearly fatal mistakes that leads to major civil war even it wasn’t his fault
I hope we eventually get a House of The Dragon sequel starting with Viserys and passing trough Aegon and the BlackFyre Rebellion
Without him we would not have that much of history and todays story
17:53 made me chuckle pretty damn hard 🤣
Wow after listening to this, we can see why by the time of Game of Thrones, the realm was just fed up with the Targaryens and Robert Barratheon was ready to end them all. . GRRM truly has created a medieval soap opera of a story. I really hope they do House of the Dragon all the way up to Roberts's Rebellion.
A young king having children isn’t actually out of the question, although Viserys II is a bit out there. At the age of 15, Louis XV of France was married to the 22 year old Marie Leszczyńska, daughter of the then dispossessed King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania, Stanisław I. Their first child, Louise-Élisabeth (who would be their only daughter to have children of her own, out of 8 daughters), was conceived when Louis was only 16.
Are you doing the rest? Love this series
Yes, the Daeron II video will be out next week sometime
Bro's just King Henry VIII
Sometimes I feel that Aegon IV, Naerys, Aemon and Daeron II are the reincarnation of Aegon II, Heleana and Aemond (redemption) and Daeron the Daring.
This is the greatest title!
For such a smart man, Viserys II was blind to his idiot son
No he wasn’t, he was constantly trying to curb his bad habits, like everytime he caught Aegon with a mistress he got rid of them, it’s probably why he poisoned Viserys, because Viserys was the only one who had the authority over him to keep him from doing whatever the hell he wanted, as king he had absolutely nobody above him
@@Dell-ol6hb fair enough. though it still doesn't warm Viserys II to me. Not saying you're doing that
I hope that the show is finished skipping time and actually see the opportunity to have 8-10 season show where after the dance with dragons they can continue the whole Targaryen storyline up towards the mad king or atleast right before it and make the mad king a HBO movie.. a lot of possibilities a lot of storyline to be told alot of spin off shows
Without Aegon the Unworthy, bloodraven won't be alive. Everything happens for a reason.
I like to call him "Aegon IV The Pig"
Imagine if HBO adapting this it will be R+18 since he is lustful and crazy ruler
Everytime I read and think about the dragons incest in their lineage, I think how truly deformed and grotesque Danny would be by her birth!
If all of the Targaryen were in a contest for how many dragon seeds they have Aegon would take the top Place
Dragon Seeds if anyone doesn't know are Bastard children they are said they arw to be gifted with the genres that Gives the Targaryen the abilite to control and ride Dragons
great video but you should post more
2:55 "This section of the tree is removed for spoilers"
Well Maelor's on there and as we now he's is now confirmed as Maester Fake News so not really
Aegon the Unworthy was born 3rd in line for the Iron Throne. Then he went to 4th when Baelor the Blessed was born. Must've