it's his job to uphold the law rare in a solicitor to care so much.what a gemmostly we get what paula handed out by these people looking for an easy life talking people into admitting giult when there was non just to keep the system sweet and every one in court happy .
Yeah but you better have an excuse for the harazzment you are doing while doing it and special after you get cough in the act. Short thinking people......
They (PO) dug themselves an even bigger hole to sink into, there is nothing now they can protect, as you say the brand is trashed, they are morally bankrupt and perhaps soon to be financially bankrupt
A long with the POL legal team Vandebeagard lied to the enquiry snd select committee. That has serious cosequences for those involved in the cover up and continued prosecutions. Their cries that i didn't know pure holywood acting. A long with all the incriminating paperwork. This is the begining of the end for all those involved lawyer's PR spin doctors managers the white collar criminals.
Willfully prosecute innocents no place to hide now we know the inner workings of the fraudulent prosecution of completely innocent hardworking honest sub post masters. £300 million a conservative estimate for compensation. I think the over all cost to tax payers could face a total bill in excess of £3 billion . Those responsible should be paying with everything they have why should the taxpayer pick up the bill for these managers spindoctors lawyers who all conspired to continue the coverup .
These two men are heroes like Alan Bates! They give me hope that good people and justice still exists in our societies! It always amazes that true heroes are insignificant people quietly going about their daily lives and NOT those people who love to steal the limelight, use privilege and tell you they are heroes!
I found this truly illuminating. The two gentleman from Second Sight could recall events going back 10 years yet the main body of PO did not recall…as you said
Amazing how fluid this is compared to the PO crew who stop and start, correct themselves, can't recall, "that is not my understanding".Doesn't this gentleman's evidence shine an even brighter light on the liars! A breath of fresh air these two gentlemen from Second Sight.
This and his SS colleagues testimony is the most damning testimony so far! Were it notnfor Second Sight's adherence to their contractual obligations, much would have come out earlier! This raises the value of the concept of a 'whistleblowers charter' that protects such activity. The 'usual' means of achieving this - through parliamentary questions et al - clearly was insufficient! Post Office execs (and other staff) who profited must be made to make amends for their corruption and crimes! The thought of Paula Vennels as a Bishop turns my stomach - and as a nephew of a CofE Parish Priest confirms my view of the hypocrisy of that organisation!
The only place I would disagree with this brilliant man is the like of venells was not protecting the brand of the post office, although that's what she said , she was protecting her huge bonus
Incredible how one honest person can have such a vivid, well-collected memory when so many from the PO leadership team would probably answer "I'm afraid I can't recall..." when asked what their date of birth is. You'd call them morons, which they absolute are but it then underplays how despicable and cruel they have shown themselves to be. These people must have families. How do they look them in the face knowing they share responsibility for putting an innocent, pregnant woman behind bars? Criminal proceedings must surely follow otherwise it just further highlights the inequality between those with money and those hardworking, decent people that end up paying the price for the corruption and lies of these cretins!
Not only direct evidence of willful wrongdoing by Vennels and her cronies, but also direct evidence of perjury from her at this inquiry. I hope someone is watching over her well-being very carefully; this woman needs to stand trial and serve a long time in prison - without taking any "easy" ways out.
Let's not forget . the second sight forensic accountants (this gentleman and his colleague) were treated very badly by the post office too. Threatened with legal action, etc, despite the fact they were invited to do this work by the post office
Did she not stop to think "Have we really appointed so many corrupt Post Office Managers"? "Who in hell appointed them?" When they got to 30 any reasonable person would have raised this question. NOT 300! Surely to God she might have sat in court to observe ONE procedure and challenged herself! As a Former Anglican Priest (Now Catholic) i feel a profound sense of disgrace and shame to have the misfortune of being associated with her "Ministry"!
Question to Paula Vennels: How is your goal of protecting the Post Office's image and brand working out for you? Vennels broke down in tears when she told us how she "Loved the Post Office". The problem is that she loved the Post Office at the expense of anything and everything else, including truth, honesty, morals, and decency. Just the mere thought that just ONE person may have been wrongly convicted should be enough to put the brakes on the whole prosecution process. But that would take someone with morals and decency.
its not about money for the po, the government would never let the po fail, this lot were or a free ride to much bigger jobs with endless payments and gongs, the little people are just cannon fodder to this lot
The Solicitors Regulatory Authority and the Bar Council that regulates the Solicitors and Barristers have appeared in front of a commons select committee earlier this year and stated that they will be looking closely at the conduct and advice given and will not hesitate to act if any wrong doing is found. A solicitor was already reprimanded and fined £20k in Dec 2023.
'Protecting the brand' equals to putting others, even human life, as number two. If PR is driving decisions in an organization, you basically have a teenager, putting the superficial above the reality, lack of maturity and in need of adult advice
All these senior managers need to be tried in a court of law and jailed when found guilty. They should also be banned from occupying a senior management role in any UK business for life..
Does anyone else wonder why IT in government run institutions is so sh!te? I cast my mind back to the 90's/00's.. The then Labour gov spent billions on putting Windows XP into hospitals and GP surgeries.. we still had them operating just a few years ago.. why can an organization the size of the NHS not have a custom Linux distro.. with its own Dev team.. it seems logical to me.. instead, we've paid billions to MS and what did we get other than more vulnerability on top hiked costs?
I sincerely hope that our security services and gchq have much more robust bespoke IT than the poor public service sectors who are preyed upon by commercial companies with a cheap bottom line.
The Post Office continued to prosecute and defraud, despite concerns being very well known. The police should not wait for the enquiry to finish nor report.
The Conservative's record in office... 1. Highest energy bills in Europe. 2. Highest taxes in 70 years. 3. Highest interest rates since 2008. 4. Highest train fares in Europe. 5. Longest waiting lists in NHS history. 6. Raw Tory sewage pumped into rivers. 7. Lowest corporate taxes in 50 years. 8. Lowest State Pension in Europe. 9. Highest Immigration both legal and illegal ever. 10. Destroyed the NHS dentist service. 11. Brexit. 12. One failed Prime Minister after another. 13. Worlds shortest in post Prime Minister which created a financial disaster. 14. More corrupt MP's than any other party in parliament. 15. Europe's longest Austerity for the lower paid. 16. Highest Council Tax rates in the World. 17. Reduced our Armed Forces more than any other G8 country. 18. Highest number of MP's that have been arrested for sexual offences. 19. Highest number of MP's that have been sacked for corruption and Fraudulent acts. 20. Voted to allow Bankers to have unlimited bonus's even though the bankers caused the crash of 2008. 21. More libraries closed due to council cuts than any other modern country. 22. Ruined and destroyed the Train services by giving private companies tax payers money as subsidies. 23. Voted against Labours creation of the minimum wage. 24. Wasted billions of Tax payers money on crony PPE contracts for their friends and other Tory donors. 25. Sold off 600 Police Stations. 26. Sold off our Courthouses. 27. Closed then sold our Fire Stations. 28, Failed to fix - repair our schools. 29. Cut spending on youth services. 30. Court backlog is at record levels 31. Threw 30,000 pensioners to the wolves during the first wave of the pandemic. 32. Sold off our electrical grid to foreign companies. 33. Failed to build new affordable homes. 34. Wasted billions on HS2. 35. Failed to close Tax Loopholes. 36. Failed to build 40 new hospitals. 37. Failed to repair our crumbling roads. 38. Forced many councils into bankruptcy. 39. Failed to address the 4 million children living in poverty. 40. Cut spending on mental health services. 41. Privatised and sold off the nations Post Office - Gas - Water and Electricity Companies 42. Allowed BP and Shell to steal our Oil and Gas reserves whilst paying little to no taxes. (Norway has a Sovereign Wealth fund of over $1.6 trillion). 43. Sunaks failed RWANDA policy has cost approx 500m. 44. Increased the pension age. 45. Failed promise to end rough sleeping. 46. Failed promise to end Leaseholds. 47. Failed to Ban No Fault Evictions. 48. Failed to ban so-called conversion therapy. 49. Failed in their Levelling up promise. 50. Introduced Voter ID excluding thousands from voting. 51. Introduced the bedroom tax. 52. Forced disabled people to jump through hoops to claim benefits. 53. Britain now has more foodbanks than McDonalds. 54. Tried to implement fracking. 55. Failed to invest in green energy and electric vehicle recharging infrastructure. 56. Our National Debt is now 3 Trillion. 57. Failed to prepare or have sufficient PPE for a Pandemic even when it was No1 on the risk register... 58. Given free reign in Non-Dom billionaires and Media owners to cause societal division and fuel racism. 59. Promoted lunatics like Cruella, Mogg and Patel to high office. 60. Blocked the Russia report. 61. Gave us the highest diesel prices in Europe. 62. Closed and then sold off our onshore gas storage tanks to high end developers making the impact of the invasion of Ukraine worse by increasing the cost of gas. 63. Tripled the cost of University fees for students and locked them in their digs during the pandemic. 64. Grenfell. 65. Windrush. 66. Increased our National Debt to 3 Trillion. 67. Partygate. 68. G4S Prisons. 69. We are giving 8 million quid a day to landlords for migrant accommodation due to the Home Office go slow policy. 70. Little to no Border checks on goods and foods. 71. Sold the Farmers and Fishermen down the river. 16 Reply
Still struggling to find some benefit from the infected blood inquiry stuff coming out myself and EIBSS has been lying to me about helping me & let me down yet again, just like everyone else!
Perhaps in about 15 years time we'll see some punishment dished out. This is still the enquiry stage remember. A report has to be constructed and if it's deemed worthwhile, a prosecution. If you think the culprits/suspects have bad memories now, you aint seen nothin' yet.
These ppl in high positions in the P.O. would do anything to protect their jobs and bonuses-they preferred to let sub postmasters go to jail ,and financially ruin them .Disgusting scumbags.
The 1st witness with no brain fade, or I can’t remember syndrome. How very unusual. This man has no problem in sleeping at night. Mr Beer, thank you for your work also.
No matter the length of time it takes, the truth always surface one day! I was a victim 1n1967 I got personal satisfaction 4 years when I wrote to the Barrister who was supposed to defend me. I carried the pain all these years. The truth hurts his conscience badly.
All the top people in the post office and all those involved in the cover up should be facing jail sentences for it plus also for those that died including suicides plus loss of pension which the top staff of the post office got them fraudulently
These lawyers should be barred they show no shame they think because who they are they are exempt from the law they will wriggle out of these like all of them even some MPs choice to avoid all these miscarriages of justice
"Forensic accountant says Vennells avoided probing miscarriages of justice" - Is this an oxymoron? - surely, by definition, an investigation is not "probing" on any realistic level if the people who are being investigated can simply "avoid" them?
I always thought of the PO as quaint little operations until this surfaced. It's clear now that behind the scenes was more like Iraq under Saddam Hussain.
I disagree. Better to let Vennells and the others say their piece, then expose them as the liars that they are than give them the chance to deny Second Sight's evidence. Doing it _this_ way reveals just how corrupt POL's management and legal team really are.
@@rvarsigfusson6163 Go to time point 0:05, and press pause. Read the contents of paragraph 88. In the play mode the Barrister, Jason Beer KC, does read out his name.
@@michaelhearn3052 All kudos for you Sir....... Thanks. We could write it down here in comments that The head of legal Chris Aujard is acting like a bully and threatening people...... Is he still a barrister?
@rvarsigfusson6163 No, he is a solicitor afaik, having qualified in Australia and moved to the UK. Both the Bar Council and Solicitors' regulatory authority have said that in a recent commons select committee, they they would be looking at the professional conduct and advice and case conduct and would be prepared to take action against members whose conduct falls below what is expected. Iirc the inquiry interviewed a solicitor who had been disciplined and fined £20k in Dec 2023. Both authorities have their own newsletters that report this, and AFAIK are already starting this process. BTW, aujard did appear in the inquiry, day 131, on the UA-cam inquiry channel.
Did Paula Vennells know about CPIA 1996 or did she just choose to ignore it? She worked for several BigCorp before Post Office. She is a qualified accountant but can't read a basic balance sheet. She was in fact a professional board member who flitted like a butterfly from one company to another with no actual business experience.
So lives were ruined, and a few suicides. But lots of money was made, for people with lots of money! And those who died were not important. Mostly working Class People. There's lots of them.
One lighter moment from today, when Jason Beer got a laugh out of those present when he commented that he was "too young to remember ring-binders": which was a bit rich coming from someone standing at a desk and surrounded by any number of folders with hundreds of loose leaf pages. Plus ca change...!
If this evidence stands (and it seems to) then it is profoundly damning. Paula Vennells was an ordained minister of the Anglican Church. She was being pushed by Justin Welby for promotion to Bishop. The upper echelons seem replete with people quote unable to read a character, read the room or make a cold, moral judgement. This is worrying. I imagine there will be convictions here.
I attended this hearing in the public gallery and truly believe that Mr Henderson and Mr Warmington are very courageous human beings and I admire them both for their tenacity and honesty. An honour to be in their presence together with Mr Jason Beer too!
Mr Beer
Thank you for all your hard work keep it up please.
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He got the Barrister of the Year award. He will be Sir Jason after this inquiry.
Thankyou for witness with an effective memory, such a change from PO & Legal bods
Well it all comes out in the wash well done Mr Henderson it is lovely to hear some one who tells the truth and Remembers Everything
it's his job to uphold the law rare in a solicitor to care so much.what a gemmostly we get what paula handed out by these people looking for an easy life talking people into admitting giult when there was non just to keep the system sweet and every one in court happy .
@@andydudley1775 Ian Henderson is not a solicitor. He is an accountant (FCA)
Ironically, in 'protecting' the brand of the PO they totally trashed it on the international stage.
Yeah but you better have an excuse for the harazzment you are doing while doing it and special after you get cough in the act. Short thinking people......
They (PO) dug themselves an even bigger hole to sink into, there is nothing now they can protect, as you say the brand is trashed, they are morally bankrupt and perhaps soon to be financially bankrupt
Protect the post office at the expense of suicides, bankruptcy and mental breakdowns......not very Christian Paula.
Christian In Name Only: CINO.
Her role in church life was a mere adornment, she has nothing in common with Jesus Christ.
Not Christian ?? you must be joking, what do you think the Church has been doing for years in regard to child sex abuse ! it is extremely "Christian"
Quite right…absolutely shameless and shameful. POL and Fujitsu actions speak to the appearance of a full blown conspiracy wrecking people’s lives.
The real christians are the worst behaving to others...... Look at the jews!!
Vennells needs to be facing criminal charges, there should be a precedent set that people that wilfully obstruct justice get their just deserts.
A long with the POL legal team Vandebeagard lied to the enquiry snd select committee.
That has serious cosequences for those involved in the cover up and continued prosecutions.
Their cries that i didn't know pure holywood acting.
A long with all the incriminating paperwork.
This is the begining of the end for all those involved lawyer's PR spin doctors managers the white collar criminals.
Willfully prosecute innocents no place to hide now we know the inner workings of the fraudulent prosecution of completely innocent hardworking honest sub post masters.
£300 million a conservative estimate for compensation.
I think the over all cost to tax payers could face a total bill in excess of £3 billion .
Those responsible should be paying with everything they have why should the taxpayer pick up the bill for these managers spindoctors lawyers who all conspired to continue the coverup .
Being a woman and one of the elite she'd get absolutely no time or real punishment
And that vanderberg woman whatever her name was
Her and many others indeed need to get punished
A refreshingly candid and straightforward testimony from someone who doesn’t have anything to hide.
These two men are heroes like Alan Bates! They give me hope that good people and justice still exists in our societies! It always amazes that true heroes are insignificant people quietly going about their daily lives and NOT those people who love to steal the limelight, use privilege and tell you they are heroes!
Wow! It’s amazing what you can remember when you have nothing to hide…
So Second Sight staff remember everything but Post Office staff often can't recall or don't remember.
I found this truly illuminating. The two gentleman from Second Sight could recall events going back 10 years yet the main body of PO did not recall…as you said
Amazing how fluid this is compared to the PO crew who stop and start, correct themselves, can't recall, "that is not my understanding".Doesn't this gentleman's evidence shine an even brighter light on the liars! A breath of fresh air these two gentlemen from Second Sight.
This and his SS colleagues testimony is the most damning testimony so far! Were it notnfor Second Sight's adherence to their contractual obligations, much would have come out earlier! This raises the value of the concept of a 'whistleblowers charter' that protects such activity. The 'usual' means of achieving this - through parliamentary questions et al - clearly was insufficient! Post Office execs (and other staff) who profited must be made to make amends for their corruption and crimes! The thought of Paula Vennels as a Bishop turns my stomach - and as a nephew of a CofE Parish Priest confirms my view of the hypocrisy of that organisation!
The only place I would disagree with this brilliant man is the like of venells was not protecting the brand of the post office, although that's what she said , she was protecting her huge bonus
Mr Henderson and Mr Warmington very professional, expertise shown, but down to earth. A credit to their profession and themselves.
"Criminal Conspiracy" ... to commit corporate manslaughter.
It certainly needs to be tested in Court ,there is criminality throughout this horror story, confidence has to be restored to the Justice System
Incredible how one honest person can have such a vivid, well-collected memory when so many from the PO leadership team would probably answer "I'm afraid I can't recall..." when asked what their date of birth is. You'd call them morons, which they absolute are but it then underplays how despicable and cruel they have shown themselves to be. These people must have families. How do they look them in the face knowing they share responsibility for putting an innocent, pregnant woman behind bars? Criminal proceedings must surely follow otherwise it just further highlights the inequality between those with money and those hardworking, decent people that end up paying the price for the corruption and lies of these cretins!
The difference in his manner is striking. Nothing to hide and no reason to be fearful.
@@WinstonTexas829 Absolutely. There's been no training here from a PR team.
This is one of the few witnesses who can recall ANYTHING that occurred at The Post Office!
Not only direct evidence of willful wrongdoing by Vennels and her cronies, but also direct evidence of perjury from her at this inquiry.
I hope someone is watching over her well-being very carefully; this woman needs to stand trial and serve a long time in prison - without taking any "easy" ways out.
Let's not forget . the second sight forensic accountants (this gentleman and his colleague) were treated very badly by the post office too. Threatened with legal action, etc, despite the fact they were invited to do this work by the post office
Finally someone at this inquiry that is worth listening to.
As an Australian I am ashamed of Chris Aujard, what a thoroughly unpleasant man.
There's only one place vennels should be and she should not pass go or collect £200
NOT 5.5 million then?....
This nails it. The POL placed brand above humanity. Good man, Ian, for presenting this with clarity and fair reporting.
Did she not stop to think "Have we really appointed so many corrupt Post Office Managers"? "Who in hell appointed them?" When they got to 30 any reasonable person would have raised this question. NOT 300! Surely to God she might have sat in court to observe ONE procedure and challenged herself! As a Former Anglican Priest (Now Catholic) i feel a profound sense of disgrace and shame to have the misfortune of being associated with her "Ministry"!
Question to Paula Vennels: How is your goal of protecting the Post Office's image and brand working out for you?
Vennels broke down in tears when she told us how she "Loved the Post Office". The problem is that she loved the Post Office at the expense of anything and everything else, including truth, honesty, morals, and decency. Just the mere thought that just ONE person may have been wrongly convicted should be enough to put the brakes on the whole prosecution process. But that would take someone with morals and decency.
They were worried about their ‘bottom line’ and bonuses!
its not about money for the po, the government would never let the po fail, this lot were or a free ride to much bigger jobs with endless payments and gongs, the little people are just cannon fodder to this lot
Vennells ....the architype of Christian subliminal superiority...temptation, denial and punishment being key themes here...
She's a priest now🤡
@@halfordslain7477 Yeah in all probability God "can't recall" her sins...
Her name is so close to the word ' venal'.
She’s Carries mum
Yep. Swore on the bible, then lied through her teeth so she doesn't really believe at all.
A witness who is not suddenly memory-impaired.... because he has nothing to hide about his actions, unlike the slippery Post Office and Fujitsu liars.
Thank you, Mr. Ian H
I’m waiting for the prosecution of the UKPo lawyers, CEO and executives.
The Solicitors Regulatory Authority and the Bar Council that regulates the Solicitors and Barristers have appeared in front of a commons select committee earlier this year and stated that they will be looking closely at the conduct and advice given and will not hesitate to act if any wrong doing is found. A solicitor was already reprimanded and fined £20k in Dec 2023.
How refreshing to hear from a witness who can remember things. After so many POL witnesses with their unusual memory losses.
All those memory losses amount to a giant "Up Yours!" to all the King's Counsels.
The memory loses are at the behest of their legal briefs! (Deny everything Baldrick!)
Ian and Ron are the two most intelligent people that have been on the enquiry.
Honesty at last.
'Protecting the brand' equals to putting others, even human life, as number two. If PR is driving decisions in an organization, you basically have a teenager, putting the superficial above the reality, lack of maturity and in need of adult advice
Paula certainly raised the profile of "the brand".Everyone is certainly aware of POL now. 😆😄😁.....
When will we be seeing them all in court???
'The Post Office was the nation's most trusted brand...' Well guess what it is now after your leadership?
Finally someone speaking the truth unlike the Post executives who couldn’t remember anything
All these senior managers need to be tried in a court of law and jailed when found guilty. They should also be banned from occupying a senior management role in any UK business for life..
Does anyone else wonder why IT in government run institutions is so sh!te? I cast my mind back to the 90's/00's.. The then Labour gov spent billions on putting Windows XP into hospitals and GP surgeries.. we still had them operating just a few years ago.. why can an organization the size of the NHS not have a custom Linux distro.. with its own Dev team.. it seems logical to me.. instead, we've paid billions to MS and what did we get other than more vulnerability on top hiked costs?
I sincerely hope that our security services and gchq have much more robust bespoke IT than the poor public service sectors who are preyed upon by commercial companies with a cheap bottom line.
that man said everything the post office did not want to get out to the public , WELL SAID SIR your a honrible gentlman
These crooks should be in jail
The Post Office continued to prosecute and defraud, despite concerns being very well known. The police should not wait for the enquiry to finish nor report.
The Conservative's record in office...
1. Highest energy bills in Europe.
2. Highest taxes in 70 years.
3. Highest interest rates since 2008.
4. Highest train fares in Europe.
5. Longest waiting lists in NHS history.
6. Raw Tory sewage pumped into rivers.
7. Lowest corporate taxes in 50 years.
8. Lowest State Pension in Europe.
9. Highest Immigration both legal and illegal ever.
10. Destroyed the NHS dentist service.
11. Brexit.
12. One failed Prime Minister after another.
13. Worlds shortest in post Prime Minister which created a financial disaster.
14. More corrupt MP's than any other party in parliament.
15. Europe's longest Austerity for the lower paid.
16. Highest Council Tax rates in the World.
17. Reduced our Armed Forces more than any other G8 country.
18. Highest number of MP's that have been arrested for sexual offences.
19. Highest number of MP's that have been sacked for corruption and Fraudulent acts.
20. Voted to allow Bankers to have unlimited bonus's even though the bankers caused the crash of 2008.
21. More libraries closed due to council cuts than any other modern country.
22. Ruined and destroyed the Train services by giving private companies tax payers money as subsidies.
23. Voted against Labours creation of the minimum wage.
24. Wasted billions of Tax payers money on crony PPE contracts for their friends and other Tory donors.
25. Sold off 600 Police Stations.
26. Sold off our Courthouses.
27. Closed then sold our Fire Stations.
28, Failed to fix - repair our schools.
29. Cut spending on youth services.
30. Court backlog is at record levels
31. Threw 30,000 pensioners to the wolves during the first wave of the pandemic.
32. Sold off our electrical grid to foreign companies.
33. Failed to build new affordable homes.
34. Wasted billions on HS2.
35. Failed to close Tax Loopholes.
36. Failed to build 40 new hospitals.
37. Failed to repair our crumbling roads.
38. Forced many councils into bankruptcy.
39. Failed to address the 4 million children living in poverty.
40. Cut spending on mental health services.
41. Privatised and sold off the nations Post Office - Gas - Water and Electricity Companies
42. Allowed BP and Shell to steal our Oil and Gas reserves whilst paying little to no taxes. (Norway has a Sovereign Wealth fund of over $1.6 trillion).
43. Sunaks failed RWANDA policy has cost approx 500m.
44. Increased the pension age.
45. Failed promise to end rough sleeping.
46. Failed promise to end Leaseholds.
47. Failed to Ban No Fault Evictions.
48. Failed to ban so-called conversion therapy.
49. Failed in their Levelling up promise.
50. Introduced Voter ID excluding thousands from voting.
51. Introduced the bedroom tax.
52. Forced disabled people to jump through hoops to claim benefits.
53. Britain now has more foodbanks than McDonalds.
54. Tried to implement fracking.
55. Failed to invest in green energy and electric vehicle recharging infrastructure.
56. Our National Debt is now 3 Trillion.
57. Failed to prepare or have sufficient PPE for a Pandemic even when it was No1 on the risk register...
58. Given free reign in Non-Dom billionaires and Media owners to cause societal division and fuel racism.
59. Promoted lunatics like Cruella, Mogg and Patel to high office.
60. Blocked the Russia report.
61. Gave us the highest diesel prices in Europe.
62. Closed and then sold off our onshore gas storage tanks to high end developers making the impact of the invasion of Ukraine worse by increasing the cost of gas.
63. Tripled the cost of University fees for students and locked them in their digs during the pandemic.
64. Grenfell.
65. Windrush.
66. Increased our National Debt to 3 Trillion.
67. Partygate.
68. G4S Prisons.
69. We are giving 8 million quid a day to landlords for migrant accommodation due to the Home Office go slow policy.
70. Little to no Border checks on goods and foods.
71. Sold the Farmers and Fishermen down the river.
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I think you might have covered it all. Totally agree, by the way.
@@elainethomas3117 failed to claw back money from PPE?
i also totally agree.
Ate my hamster.
Is that all? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wait till sir Keir and his mob get in, we ain't seen nothing yet
Evening all, keep ‘um peeled. Sounds like people going to prison.
Still struggling to find some benefit from the infected blood inquiry stuff coming out myself and EIBSS has been lying to me about helping me & let me down yet again, just like everyone else!
Those incharge who can't remember this is the evidence that lifts the lid.
Vennells should just come clean and stop the big lie.
Vennells the Vile is psychologically incapable of coming clean.
Amazing how these guy can remember very well conversations etc but the PO ppl running the company can’t or have no memory 🤔
Perhaps in about 15 years time we'll see some punishment dished out. This is still the enquiry stage remember. A report has to be constructed and if it's deemed worthwhile, a prosecution. If you think the culprits/suspects have bad memories now, you aint seen nothin' yet.
These ppl in high positions in the P.O. would do anything to protect their jobs and bonuses-they preferred to let sub postmasters go to jail ,and financially ruin them .Disgusting scumbags.
The 1st witness with no brain fade, or I can’t remember syndrome. How very unusual. This man has no problem in sleeping at night. Mr Beer, thank you for your work also.
No matter the length of time it takes, the truth always surface one day! I was a victim 1n1967 I got personal satisfaction 4 years when I wrote to the Barrister who was supposed to defend me. I carried the pain all these years. The truth hurts his conscience badly.
Criminal activity can’t be hid with a NDA ..can it ?? Both parties would be liable for the outcome
All the top people in the post office and all those involved in the cover up should be facing jail sentences for it plus also for those that died including suicides plus loss of pension which the top staff of the post office got them fraudulently
These lawyers should be barred they show no shame they think because who they are they are exempt from the law they will wriggle out of these like all of them even some MPs choice to avoid all these miscarriages of justice
"Forensic accountant says Vennells avoided probing miscarriages of justice" - Is this an oxymoron? - surely, by definition, an investigation is not "probing" on any realistic level if the people who are being investigated can simply "avoid" them?
Post Office was trusted as was the Church of England, same employees same lies!
I always thought of the PO as quaint little operations until this surfaced. It's clear now that behind the scenes was more like Iraq under Saddam Hussain.
oh thats funny it cut off before she could answer
these two should have been interviewed before the three witches ! they lied and think they have got away scot free
I disagree. Better to let Vennells and the others say their piece, then expose them as the liars that they are than give them the chance to deny Second Sight's evidence.
Doing it _this_ way reveals just how corrupt POL's management and legal team really are.
I despair . . .
Chris Aujard is now employed by FNZ. FNZ should review this.
There is no confidence in iniquity. Gartside v Outram
We must remember that Judges supported the PO throughout these unjust prosecutions
I wonder why the lawyer they are talking about in the start of this video is NOT named!!
They did.
@@michaelhearn3052 Thanks and the NAME is?
@@rvarsigfusson6163 Go to time point 0:05, and press pause. Read the contents of paragraph 88. In the play mode the Barrister, Jason Beer KC, does read out his name.
@@michaelhearn3052 All kudos for you Sir....... Thanks.
We could write it down here in comments that The head of legal Chris Aujard is acting like a bully and threatening people......
Is he still a barrister?
@rvarsigfusson6163 No, he is a solicitor afaik, having qualified in Australia and moved to the UK. Both the Bar Council and Solicitors' regulatory authority have said that in a recent commons select committee, they they would be looking at the professional conduct and advice and case conduct and would be prepared to take action against members whose conduct falls below what is expected. Iirc the inquiry interviewed a solicitor who had been disciplined and fined £20k in Dec 2023. Both authorities have their own newsletters that report this, and AFAIK are already starting this process. BTW, aujard did appear in the inquiry, day 131, on the UA-cam inquiry channel.
No chair twiddling going on here… geezer is straight as a die
Agree, compare his body language with MOST of the other witnesses!
Did Paula Vennells know about CPIA 1996 or did she just choose to ignore it?
She worked for several BigCorp before Post Office. She is a qualified accountant but can't read a basic balance sheet. She was in fact a professional board member who flitted like a butterfly from one company to another with no actual business experience.
The key is they lied to cover up losses they themselves would never suffer from
So lives were ruined, and a few suicides. But lots of money was made, for people with lots of money! And those who died were not important. Mostly working Class People. There's lots of them.
One lighter moment from today, when Jason Beer got a laugh out of those present when he commented that he was "too young to remember ring-binders": which was a bit rich coming from someone standing at a desk and surrounded by any number of folders with hundreds of loose leaf pages. Plus ca change...!
If he wanted to raise a bigger laugh in the audience, he could have said, "I don't recall" ring-binders...
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The aim of Paula Vennells was to 'protect the brand of the Post Office'. Well, that worked well!
Vennells wanted the brand protected to protect her bonus. She caused terrible harm to hundreds of people and must to questioned by the police
If this evidence stands (and it seems to) then it is profoundly damning.
Paula Vennells was an ordained minister of the Anglican Church.
She was being pushed by Justin Welby for promotion to Bishop.
The upper echelons seem replete with people quote unable to read a character, read the room or make a cold, moral judgement.
This is worrying.
I imagine there will be convictions here.
There are heroes 👍👍👍
Look closely the beast lives within her
Very bad people no good
I hope theVvennells witch is watching this.
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I attended this hearing in the public gallery and truly believe that Mr Henderson and Mr Warmington are very courageous human beings and I admire them both for their tenacity and honesty. An honour to be in their presence together with Mr Jason Beer too!
By by by
When are we going to see Post Office bosses in prison?
Its taken all this time to get normal human beings on here
Er,Sir Alan Bates has been on!