As far as I know, stupidity and incompetence, are no defence for committing a crime, if it were every criminal arrested would get away with it because most never admit it and pretend to be unaware of it being a crime, so all who was involved have to be charged regardless of their incompetence and saying that they don't remember or didn't read it, these people responsible for the appalling actions against the subpostmasters have to be charged and some have to go to prison.
It'll be just as deplorable and corrupt in practically every large corporation. I'm certainly not trying to defend them by the way, I think they all need jail.
Jason Beer KC is an incredibly skilled advocate, his examination of Mr Singh was a masterclass of examining a lying witness and he done this while unwell with the flu during this examination. 👌
Sounds of a drowning man. All the body language is that of a classic lier. I hope with all my heart that this man ends in prison. No honour. No accountability. And the lives of many ruined by his dishonesty. I don't know how Beer restrains himself.
Why? Most people were doing what they were told, just as I do in my job. People like Singh are paid to be responsible. THEY are responsible, not 'everyone involved'. They are paid to make sure that everyone (normal people with only local specialisms) comply with legal requirements.
I’m a moron at computer technology. I knew how to save and print a document in 2010. What a shameless liar. He knew there was a trial and a woman was going to prison who had done nothing wrong. But he didn’t want to be the one who disclosed the bug and it all to go to custard. He’s evil
Evil is the best word to describe this Liar! He's like the Nazi bureaucrats on trial at Nuremberg, "I didn't know, I didn't see, I was unaware ..." Pure Evil!
Poor Jason Beer, unwell and having to deal with Jarnail Singh. How Jason stands there, and listens to the BS coming out of Jarnail Singhs mouth I just don't know. Get well soon Mr Beer!
I hope the NHS can cope with the huge increase in dementia cases we've seen during this inquiry...it really is very frightening that those in charge are so forgetful.
Brilliant sir. Utterly brilliant. What will happen when they get to prison, what am I doing here? I’m innocent of oh, I can’t remember what charge. Is it being a total prat because I’m totally guilty of that. Where’s my wife, what’s a wife, I have never had or never heard of a wife, Mrs Sing sniff, what’s a Mrs Sing. I don’t know how to print that. It’s got nothing to do with me! SNIFF
Mr Singh needs be prosecuted for lying under oath…. But looking at the state of the judicial and legal system in England , I have absolutely ZERO faith anything will happen.
and for contempt of the inquiry - claiming to want to help but solidly refusing to answer anything - time after time, after time - as if he was in the headmaster's office at school protecting his mates who had done something wicked.
I am enjoying towards the end of every session, the lawyers representing the Post masters are allowed about 20 mins to cross question the one being interviewed, we call them the Rottweilers, they do not mince their words.
@@philbennett5720when they hired this guy he got the job more than likely because he was/is a competent operator. What you are seeing from this guy here is a total front of him playing an idiot which is nothing more than him trying to save his own skin. The guy that give him the job didnt interview the guy you are seeing in this video
@@ryanmichael7795 What makes you think that? If he'd taken appropriate action, he'd have been viewed in positive light after convictions had been overturned.
@@jamesburke2094 all of the people involved would never come out of this in a positive light and they dont deserve to as they all knew exactly what they were doing, they just never priced into their thinking they would be caught out after so many years. They have absolutely no way of defending their actions so are trying to just make it look like they are all extremely incompetent and total idiots that had no idea they were doing any harm. This guy trying to make out like he has no idea how to share a file and do total basics on a computer given his high ranking position is laughable. If anybody believes this guy is as stupid as hes making himself out to be they are infact the idiot
The most blatant lies and pathetic disassembling I've seen so far. Whether or not this weasel "recalls" receiving, seeing or printing the emails is totally irrelevant - he DID. The evidence clearly proves it.
I believe that like our politicians this is what they are trained to do. Its not open to just anyone...... You have failed at the first fence ........ !!
So we're saying the computer info proves Singh is a liar, and proves he knew to not trust computer info in the prosecutions? Do you see the irony. Computer records can be wrong and show guilt, but turns out it was total error and 100% not as it appeared. Computer info which can random has zero real weight. But we are too lazy to use pen and paper, we suck, don't just blame the 1 executive who didn't notice.
How could the post office hire a solicitor who apparently does not understand the consequences of lying under oath? Let's hope his memory improves in prison.
The simple fact is he was compliant to the post office narrative of we must protect the brand at all costs so people must be jailed and we think you’re the man to do it,just convict at all costs ,he must have been handsomely rewarded for his complicity,I can only see long jail sentences for him and a few others
Or how to save it for that matter. Honest to God, this man is a terrible liar and an utterly incompetent lawyer. I suppose he was able to hide in a large institution and his qualifications (how on earth did someone who can’t save or print a document qualify in any form of law?) made him beyond reproach . Just like so so many other overpaid and greedy people running these public funded organisations.
@@RoyBolinggoingYes it really does look that way. It destroys any blind trust I ever had in these people. Ungodly mindset. You can see how religion used to work. We have got so smart that we have thrown out the baby with the bathwater haven't we?
There is one liar after another on the witness stand. The consistent lying indicates a consistent direction from the Post Office to these people to obfuscate. Utterly shameful.
Picasso said "The artist must know the manner whereby to convince others of the truthfulness of his lies." Mr Singh is a lousy artist. Paula and Angela, on the other hand, are better liars. Paula's deceptions - especially of herself are worthy of recognition - hence the CBE. [an award for lying].
He doesn't know what a document is. He doesn't know what email is. He's never heard of a computer before. Does it even have an on/off button? Doesn''t know what his job is or who was responsible for what? I'm not even sure why any post office staff are giving testimony, when all were getting from it is second hand embarrassment.
Yes many managers in 2000 at age 40 didn't know how to save attachments from their email. Truly most were new to the technology then. It's also hilarious we trust computer records now but entire problem is conputer records are NOT reliable often. We all are making SAME mistake we are yelling about ..
@@noonientrekdfaasd Hi, the Horizon issue(s) were not just due to records being wrong as such, there were two main contributing factors... 1) Horizon run reconciliation around 7pm on a Wednesday. This can only work properly if no-one at the Post Office branch is keying transactions onto Horizon at that point in time. So it ends up adding the wrong things. For reconcilaition of a financial syste, the database being reconcilied needs to be static. (there were multitude other defects, but this was the main one) 2) Fujitsu had direct access to each branch's data - so could manipulate figures their being any audit trail of that manipulation. Also, this wasn't in the 2000's (in terms of the wtiness statement and evidence being talked about), this was from around 2010 to 2013, when email was much more prevalent. And, if you listen to what he says when being questioned, he's implying he has no knowledge of how to do any of those computer related things (in 2024!!) He's either grossly incompetent or lying (though probably both)
MY OPINION :- Jarnail Sing is lying, and he is just BLATANTLY denying all of his supposed lying errors , claiming ignorance and inexperience !! supposed to be a head solicitor ? would not believe one word that stumbles from his mouth .
I would say to Jarnail Singh, IF you are going to lie, then you better be good at lying and remember the lies you've told because Jason Beer will pick you apart bit by bit. You haven't a hope of outsmarting Jason. He's light years ahead of you.
Yes he does that and we read it according to our own culture. Are we sure that holds good across the cultures? You do see that could be an issue don't you? I wonder what sort of Legal qualification is held by Mr Jarnail Singh? How can we look that up - let alone assess it? We have legislated everything and all we need now is the thought police. And do you think that's not coming to a computer near you very soon? AI is alive and well and it knows a lot about you & me already..... !!
@@jamjar20049 I believe so. Even if he didn't save the document, this string of text indicates that it was viewed by somebody on a particular computer logged in as him. So whether he simply viewed, saved, or printed, he probably came into contact with it.
@@YourLocalGP Thanks for your answer. Sometimes I try to print something and it gets stuck in my print folder and no print occurs till I reboot the printer. Might that be the case here?
I am amazed at how Mr Beer can keep so calm when he, and we, can see total lies being told. I am sure he is on a very large fee per day, something I would normally find annoying, but he is worth every penny.
@@Seaside33 Its a selective madness with huge peaks and troughs of ability. There's a French name for it. "Idiot Savant" I think. Mr Singh appears to have an aptitude for not making any sense.
I'm so utterly incompetent making more than 250k a year, I don't know how to print or save a document. How are these people every employed beyond sweeping streets?
As a lawyer, I hope this man never sent the post office / government a bill, as it seems that he never received any email, never printed any documents and “did not recall” anything. So what the hell did he do!!!
He told you that. He was a post-box. Someone else to inform and circulate to. Whenever the going got too tough POL brought in outside Lawyers. Any that didn't follow the company line were fired. Second Sight we know about but contactor after contractor gets named. Cartwright-King, Deloitte, the breakaway group from CK, ICL, others I didn't note. British justice! Washed away .... !
This man should be arrested and sent to court. Clearly he lying clearly out of his depth and at a total loss with the evidence given to him. Rabbit in the headlight come to mind.
what did this guy actually do ? He was a senior criminal lawyer at the PO, yet refuses to admit he was responsible for anything at all, even his own cases.He was ‘asked by Susan’ to attend a meeting in Edinburgh, but didn’t bother to ask her why he was to attend. He didn’t contribute anything to the meeting ( or so he says) and didn’t report back on what happened So why on earth did he travel to Edinburgh for the meeting ?
Senior criminal lawyers are renowned for their retentive memory, quick wit and responsive behaviour during a trial, where was all that in what appeared to be a trial for him today. What's it like to be in that position mate?
I bet he saved the file outlining his fees, ran it through Excel to see if anyone was cheating him out of a few pence, printed out a copy and highlighted the important bits .... before filing the digital document and the paper copy somewhere safe.
You are correct, its all for show so the proles think something is been done, in a few months the victims may get a out and the ones at the top will just be able to get on with their lives.
I don’t know how the guy leading the cross examination keeps calm in the face of such blatant lies but in any case if all the senior management is SO incompetent any bonuses paid should be forfeited.
There is no way that anyone in the workforce in 2010 who does a white collar job doesn't know how to use email, print documents or create and save documents. Especially in the law profession. The man's a liar. I hope he's caught out and is tried for perjury.
Exactly & he made their job even easier to convict him. He could have said he did have thee skills but not recall doing any of it. He tried to play dumb & now they will prove he did have the skills in 2010 & he panicked because he didn't know they had the printouts & data from MS Outlook.
@@davidgriffithsbjjcoach7207 I am sure they can & probably already have. A lawyer will always only ask the questions needed & never give anything away unless they are legally required to (like this horrible lawyer did not do to the victims of the PO scandals). Singh if had any intelligence must have known they had access to everything, so to play dumb was stupid. He could have said it was probably printed off & misplaced & he didn't open the document & just printed it off. Instead though he panicked & went straight to the "I had no tech skills" argument.
@@triax7006 it always amazes me the stupidity of some people. I used to work in a bookies and the amount of thieving going on among colleagues is rife but they always get caught the system records everything even if you delete it, its backed up and everything you do is monitored and thieves always think they're too clever to get caught but their greed is their undoing
Wonder why the post office chose to select only individuals who were affiliated by rather a cruel disease of Alzheimers/ Dementia!!!. Their memory loss caused untold pain ,emotional and financial ruin most importantly their reputation The subpostmasters wrongly accused,arrested and imprisoned have no such difficulty remembering their suffering .😅
Who employed this man who couldn't understand emails couldn't print anything and remember anything. But unable to ask anyone to help him out. I have problems but then I m old and not being paid by anyone.
I would think that with the mantra, "give foreigners responsible jobs even though they are not qualified", which I might add is still widespread in the UK, they took this guy on so as to prove how very inclusive they were ! I spit on folk who choose colour over capability.
That's no punishment, nobody will ever employ him, he needs to do 5 years in prison, have his Pension confiscated and be deported together with dependants.
It appears to me that all these people being questioned have been briefed that the best thing to say in response to any question is "I don't remember". This whole thing makes me sick, and angry.
What was this man paid for doing nothing seeing nothing hearing nothing saying nothing. Thanks to Mr Beer for coming in ill and showing is what this man really is.
Insert short video of Homer Simpson running around with his pants on fire. This guy is either a lier or completely incompetent and how on earth did he get to that position in the Post Office
This guy was/is totally incompetent, can’t print or save a document, doesn’t read his emails. None of those explanations are a defense to what happened under his management. What exactly did he do. The fact that this has gone on for so long is damming.
This is unreal. The guy is basically admitting to being completely stupid and incompetent in an attempt to save his skin. It's embarrassing.
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Being stupid and incompetent is Legal Defence which is being used
He thinks he can outsmart that JB....hold my Beer!
No, he's not admitting to anything, he's simply lying on oath, because an oath means nothing!
As far as I know, stupidity and incompetence, are no defence for committing a crime, if it were every criminal arrested would get away with it because most never admit it and pretend to be unaware of it being a crime, so all who was involved have to be charged regardless of their incompetence and saying that they don't remember or didn't read it, these people responsible for the appalling actions against the subpostmasters have to be charged and some have to go to prison.
Thank God for people like Jason Beer KC. Getting to the truth and showing how rotten the PO are at senior level.
It'll be just as deplorable and corrupt in practically every large corporation. I'm certainly not trying to defend them by the way, I think they all need jail.
YOU ARE A LIAR, MR SINGH. YOU NEED JAIL TIME, JUSTICE MUST BE SERVED.
Yep, jail time will give him some time to think and remember what he did to innocent people. He needs it.
Singh Singh , or show your ring !
Stop shouting.
Jarnail Singh needs to face imprisonment.
😆😀😆😀😆😀😆 A solicitor that can't print a document and denies printing it even though they have written evidence! What a liar! Contempt.
You can tell Jason Beer KC is barely containing his anger with and contempt for this depraved liar!
Mr. Beer is doing a sterling job. He's earning his very good money.
I admire his brain power.
Jason seems to have a cold so possibly had a lower degree of tolerance for the usual BS than normal!
Salut to Mr Beer ,get well soon sir 👍
@@Fercough 'I admire his brain power.' Not to mention his self-control!
@@dovetonsturdee7033 Haha yes, My Learned Friend Mr Beer's self-control is super human!
Jason Beer KC has my respect. What a patient man.
Jason Beer is something else. What an absolute Don! Thank you for fighting so hard for the common man Mr Beer! We are all behind you!
He is amazing as are his team. How he kept his cool I have no idea! X
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Well, he’s brilliant, but he’s hardly fighting for the common man, he has been appointed to do a job for a handsome fee.
£10k a day in fact
Typical lawyer, only ever loyal to the ££££s.
Jason Beer KC is an incredibly skilled advocate, his examination of Mr Singh was a masterclass of examining a lying witness and he done this while unwell with the flu during this examination. 👌
Although I was wearing a balaclava and brought my own shotgun, I was unaware that I was attending a bank robbery.
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The thought of Jarnail Singh with a shotgun is terrifying! 😳
Well put.
@SNAFUferret 🤣🤣🤣🤣 your comment is 100% spot on your comment deserves thousands of likes
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Sounds of a drowning man. All the body language is that of a classic lier. I hope with all my heart that this man ends in prison. No honour. No accountability. And the lives of many ruined by his dishonesty. I don't know how Beer restrains himself.
The lawyers have particular contempt for other lawyers engaging in this miscarriage of justice (and rightly so).
All the people involved should do jail time.
They Will.
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Why? Most people were doing what they were told, just as I do in my job. People like Singh are paid to be responsible. THEY are responsible, not 'everyone involved'. They are paid to make sure that everyone (normal people with only local specialisms) comply with legal requirements.
All their assets taken from them also
Especially this Criminal Lawyer
I’m a moron at computer technology. I knew how to save and print a document in 2010. What a shameless liar. He knew there was a trial and a woman was going to prison who had done nothing wrong. But he didn’t want to be the one who disclosed the bug and it all to go to custard. He’s evil
Evil is the best word to describe this Liar! He's like the Nazi bureaucrats on trial at Nuremberg, "I didn't know, I didn't see, I was unaware ..." Pure Evil!
Poor Jason Beer, unwell and having to deal with Jarnail Singh. How Jason stands there, and listens to the BS coming out of Jarnail Singhs mouth I just don't know.
Get well soon Mr Beer!
Whats wrong with Jason Beer?
@@jay3fox He stated at the start of the day that he had the flu, but still carried on.
I hope the NHS can cope with the huge increase in dementia cases we've seen during this inquiry...it really is very frightening that those in charge are so forgetful.
Brilliant sir. Utterly brilliant. What will happen when they get to prison, what am I doing here? I’m innocent of oh, I can’t remember what charge. Is it being a total prat because I’m totally guilty of that. Where’s my wife, what’s a wife, I have never had or never heard of a wife, Mrs Sing sniff, what’s a Mrs Sing. I don’t know how to print that. It’s got nothing to do with me! SNIFF
Jason Beer is my new hero, he has the patience of a saint.
Blake is quite good, too. And thr other chap. All of them, really.
We please move this fiasco into a court of law where perjury is punished properly?
HEAR HEAR
Mr Singh needs be prosecuted for lying under oath…. But looking at the state of the judicial and legal system in England , I have absolutely ZERO faith anything will happen.
When considering the Blood Scandal, the Grenfell Enquiry time scales - I totally agree!
People with money never do time is western countries.
@@NeilMartin98correct neil unless it suits even richard people
Richer
and for contempt of the inquiry - claiming to want to help but solidly refusing to answer anything - time after time, after time - as if he was in the headmaster's office at school protecting his mates who had done something wicked.
Jason Beer KC is brilliant.
Wouldn't like to come up in front of him an a court of law that's for sure😱😱😱😱😱
I am enjoying towards the end of every session, the lawyers representing the Post masters are allowed about 20 mins to cross question the one being interviewed, we call them the Rottweilers, they do not mince their words.
@@annbooth4601 Mr Steen is the Rottweiler :)
He's world class isn't he? 👏
Beer is 'the man'.
The real question is: Who gave him a job? Who carried out his appraisals? They should be sacked for incompetency.....
But this guy is not incompetent in the slightest. All hes doing is blatantly lying to make it seem like hes a total idiot
@ryanmichael7795 No, his boss wants sacking as well as him.
@@philbennett5720when they hired this guy he got the job more than likely because he was/is a competent operator. What you are seeing from this guy here is a total front of him playing an idiot which is nothing more than him trying to save his own skin. The guy that give him the job didnt interview the guy you are seeing in this video
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What makes you think that?
If he'd taken appropriate action, he'd have been viewed in positive light after convictions had been overturned.
@@jamesburke2094 all of the people involved would never come out of this in a positive light and they dont deserve to as they all knew exactly what they were doing, they just never priced into their thinking they would be caught out after so many years. They have absolutely no way of defending their actions so are trying to just make it look like they are all extremely incompetent and total idiots that had no idea they were doing any harm. This guy trying to make out like he has no idea how to share a file and do total basics on a computer given his high ranking position is laughable. If anybody believes this guy is as stupid as hes making himself out to be they are infact the idiot
The most blatant lies and pathetic disassembling I've seen so far. Whether or not this weasel "recalls" receiving, seeing or printing the emails is totally irrelevant - he DID. The evidence clearly proves it.
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👍 spot on. Akin to… I have no recollection of driving while drunk, therefore I’m not guilty your honour.
And the outlook audit trail records exactly that.
Bet he remembers being paid
Simply astonishing, he's a brazen, shameless liar.
Squirming, lying. Nothing has changed. I hope he goes to prison.
This man has no shame. An utterly horrible human being.
Um yes...he's a solicitor
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Absolutely
Wow Mr Beer KC, what a forensic mind he’s got. Top Man and well done Sir!👌👌
These people suffer from severe amnesia and are professional liars......
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Amnesia, it's the number one item on every PO senior executives c.v.
They have no amnesia, they just lie. If they had amnesia they would have an excuse.
They have been coached.
Funny how all the ones who have nothing to hide or were willing to acknowledge their own faults, had no difficulty whatsoever in remembering things.
This is so sickening that I can hardly bare to watch it. My Beer has the most admirable self control.
This man is a lawyer and lies easily, he should be disbarred and jailed
At the very minimum!
I believe that like our politicians this is what they are trained to do. Its not open to just anyone...... You have failed at the first fence ........ !!
Like most lawyers, professional liars
Jason Beer, loving your work
My jaw is literally on the floor. He has literally been caught out and he's still denying it.
It's literally on the floor?!!! You should be in A&E, not writing posts on UA-cam.
@@johncraske yeah, it helps when I’m also laying on the floor too. 😂
So we're saying the computer info proves Singh is a liar, and proves he knew to not trust computer info in the prosecutions? Do you see the irony. Computer records can be wrong and show guilt, but turns out it was total error and 100% not as it appeared. Computer info which can random has zero real weight. But we are too lazy to use pen and paper, we suck, don't just blame the 1 executive who didn't notice.
thats what liars do...we saw this in public view on our screens with BORIS johnson
The patience and incisiveness of Jason Beer really is incredible
How could the post office hire a solicitor who apparently does not understand the consequences of lying under oath? Let's hope his memory improves in prison.
The simple fact is he was compliant to the post office narrative of we must protect the brand at all costs so people must be jailed and we think you’re the man to do it,just convict at all costs ,he must have been handsomely rewarded for his complicity,I can only see long jail sentences for him and a few others
That's exactly why they hired him
He won't be selected for the prison quiz team. He won't remember receiving the questions.
By his own admission today, he complimented Mr Beer for calling him '...a letter box...'.
He's not British. Doesn't have empathy at all.
12.16 : "... you're not really a details man, are you?" Beautifully understated!
This is a farcical p*take from Singh, contempt of the inquiry surely
Beer KC "You are not really a details man are you!"
I love that simple way of putting the witnesses memory lapses.
So he’s a senior solicitor who doesn’t know how to open an attachment on an email or how to print something out, what an absolute liar
He saved it and printed it as the evidence shows.
Exactly and “back then” was in 2010, hardly the advent of the technology.
True
Or how to save it for that matter. Honest to God, this man is a terrible liar and an utterly incompetent lawyer. I suppose he was able to hide in a large institution and his qualifications (how on earth did someone who can’t save or print a document qualify in any form of law?) made him beyond reproach . Just like so so many other overpaid and greedy people running these public funded organisations.
Must have been trained by Fujitsu
He's lying, He's lying, He's lying, He's lying, He's lying, He's lying, He's lying, He's lying, He's lying, He's lying, He's lying, He's lying, He's lying,
So what you’re saying is ….
He’s lying ?
Just by opening his mouth, he's lying through his teeth.
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Are you sure
Worst liar ever. 😀 🙄
My dog opened the email, saved the attachment on my computer, printed it out and then ate it.
He's a qualified solicitor. An utterly shameful set of responses. Denying what is obvious.
Yes he brings his profesion into disrepute.
@@RoyBolinggoingYes it really does look that way. It destroys any blind trust I ever had in these people. Ungodly mindset. You can see how religion used to work. We have got so smart that we have thrown out the baby with the bathwater haven't we?
@@annbooth4601 Now they feed off each other where they all used to feed off we "crooks" ...... :
"My defence is that I'm a complete idiot" is a hot take.
There is one liar after another on the witness stand. The consistent lying indicates a consistent direction from the Post Office to these people to obfuscate. Utterly shameful.
Lying under oath should be a criminal offence not just perjury.
It is and carrys a sentence of up to 7 years in prison
He should go to prison.
Is there a Beer Appreciation Society yet?
Yeah......CAMRA
@@adrianlloyd6403 niiiiice.
I will be joining
This guy is shockingly bad at lying.
Picasso said "The artist must know the manner whereby to convince others of the truthfulness of his lies." Mr Singh is a lousy artist. Paula and Angela, on the other hand, are better liars. Paula's deceptions - especially of herself are worthy of recognition - hence the CBE. [an award for lying].
Absolutely disgusting lies, received, saved and printed within 10 minutes or so, and he says he doesn't know how to save a document!
He doesn't know what a document is. He doesn't know what email is. He's never heard of a computer before. Does it even have an on/off button? Doesn''t know what his job is or who was responsible for what?
I'm not even sure why any post office staff are giving testimony, when all were getting from it is second hand embarrassment.
He's a snake in suit!
Yes many managers in 2000 at age 40 didn't know how to save attachments from their email. Truly most were new to the technology then. It's also hilarious we trust computer records now but entire problem is conputer records are NOT reliable often. We all are making SAME mistake we are yelling about ..
@@fredsmith1970 He should have just said, "I'm quite embarrased to admit it, but I didn't know how to read in 2010."
@@noonientrekdfaasd Hi, the Horizon issue(s) were not just due to records being wrong as such, there were two main contributing factors...
1) Horizon run reconciliation around 7pm on a Wednesday. This can only work properly if no-one at the Post Office branch is keying transactions onto Horizon at that point in time. So it ends up adding the wrong things. For reconcilaition of a financial syste, the database being reconcilied needs to be static. (there were multitude other defects, but this was the main one)
2) Fujitsu had direct access to each branch's data - so could manipulate figures their being any audit trail of that manipulation.
Also, this wasn't in the 2000's (in terms of the wtiness statement and evidence being talked about), this was from around 2010 to 2013, when email was much more prevalent.
And, if you listen to what he says when being questioned, he's implying he has no knowledge of how to do any of those computer related things (in 2024!!)
He's either grossly incompetent or lying (though probably both)
"I don't recall..." The stock response from these people.
This MUST result in a criminal investigation.
The Met Police are investigating a number of people involved in the Horizon Scandal. But I suspect they have to wait for the public inquiry to finish.
Jason Beer is slowly building the questions.......each one more significant than the previous.....superb advocacy.....a master of his art......
Well done Jason Beer
MY OPINION :- Jarnail Sing is lying, and he is just BLATANTLY denying all of his supposed lying errors , claiming ignorance and inexperience !! supposed to be a head solicitor ? would not believe one word that stumbles from his mouth .
I would say to Jarnail Singh, IF you are going to lie, then you better be good at lying and remember the lies you've told because Jason Beer will pick you apart bit by bit. You haven't a hope of outsmarting Jason. He's light years ahead of you.
A hamster is light years ahead of Mr Singh in terms of intelligence
Calm, collected genius. Surely they know that a question is followed by evidence to prove you are lying or not.
"I have no recollection ' is legalese for I'm not incriminating myself
His body language gives him away. He is looking down as a liar would. He is refusing to look at the questioner. He is lying 100%
Yes he does that and we read it according to our own culture. Are we sure that holds good across the cultures? You do see that could be an issue don't you? I wonder what sort of Legal qualification is held by Mr Jarnail Singh? How can we look that up - let alone assess it? We have legislated everything and all we need now is the thought police. And do you think that's not coming to a computer near you very soon? AI is alive and well and it knows a lot about you & me already..... !!
The oath obviously doesn’t mean anything to him.
The FACT it has his C/drive string with his name on it is clear EVIDENCE against him, and PROVES he’s lying! Dumb and Dumber all in one.
The path points to a temporary folder used by a browser. It means he looked at it on the machine but not that he saved a copy.
Interesting, does the word 'print' mean that it was printed?
@@jamjar20049 I believe so. Even if he didn't save the document, this string of text indicates that it was viewed by somebody on a particular computer logged in as him. So whether he simply viewed, saved, or printed, he probably came into contact with it.
@@YourLocalGP Thanks for your answer. Sometimes I try to print something and it gets stuck in my print folder and no print occurs till I reboot the printer. Might that be the case here?
@@jamjar20049 Yes, could be. Good point. Print queue.
He doesn't remember receiving documents but definitely remembers not printing them.
what a joker. Needs jail time
I am amazed at how Mr Beer can keep so calm when he, and we, can see total lies being told. I am sure he is on a very large fee per day, something I would normally find annoying, but he is worth every penny.
Time to question this liar's staff to see WHO printed off these emails...😡
Couldn't save a document but could do teams meeting.... really.. probably can't tie his shoe laces either😂
Exactly- don't give these snakes any wiggle room
His computer needs to be examined
He’d just throw his Secretary under the bus in order to save his wretched skin.
@@Seaside33 Its a selective madness with huge peaks and troughs of ability. There's a French name for it. "Idiot Savant" I think. Mr Singh appears to have an aptitude for not making any sense.
I'm so utterly incompetent making more than 250k a year, I don't know how to print or save a document. How are these people every employed beyond sweeping streets?
As a lawyer, I hope this man never sent the post office / government a bill, as it seems that he never received any email, never printed any documents and “did not recall” anything. So what the hell did he do!!!
Fcuk all...
Shoved large amounts of our money into his friends offshore accounts probably..
He certainley didnt do any work for the salary he was paid.
He told you that. He was a post-box. Someone else to inform and circulate to. Whenever the going got too tough POL brought in outside Lawyers. Any that didn't follow the company line were fired. Second Sight we know about but contactor after contractor gets named. Cartwright-King, Deloitte, the breakaway group from CK, ICL, others I didn't note. British justice! Washed away .... !
Jason is a total legend.
This man should be arrested and sent to court. Clearly he lying clearly out of his depth and at a total loss with the evidence given to him. Rabbit in the headlight come to mind.
Probably the worst 'selective amnesiac' of the lot at this inquiry. Despicable man.
what did this guy actually do ? He was a senior criminal lawyer at the PO, yet refuses to admit he was responsible for anything at all, even his own cases.He was ‘asked by Susan’ to attend a meeting in Edinburgh, but didn’t bother to ask her why he was to attend. He didn’t contribute anything to the meeting ( or so he says) and didn’t report back on what happened So why on earth did he travel to Edinburgh for the meeting ?
Golf and dinner on expenses?
Senior criminal lawyers are renowned for their retentive memory, quick wit and responsive behaviour during a trial, where was all that in what appeared to be a trial for him today. What's it like to be in that position mate?
He can't remember anything it would seem. Blind denial ...Jason Beer is simply brilliant we are lucky to have him working on this enquiry.
Watching Jason Beer in this inquiry is like watching a cat playing with a mouse before it goes in for the kill.
Does he recall when his bonuses were paid?
Classic Jason. Magnificent
I absolutely love Jason Beer KC. Hes amazing. He reel you up in a circle before you know it and theres no way out. ❤ brilliant Jason xxx
Wonder if he needs a secretary lol. I'm available
Lock him up !
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Jason Beer is brilliant
Probably the best Beer in the world.
Tetleys or Birra Morretti!
Hawkstone?
Wow! Someone in this position couldn't save a document! Really!?
I bet he remembers getting his fees.
I bet he saved the file outlining his fees, ran it through Excel to see if anyone was cheating him out of a few pence, printed out a copy and highlighted the important bits .... before filing the digital document and the paper copy somewhere safe.
Rock on Mr Beer👍👍
guilty as hell.....but what punishment? .....nothing
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… yet.
You are correct, its all for show so the proles think something is been done, in a few months the victims may get a out and the ones at the top will just be able to get on with their lives.
We'll see. I don't think the crowd will let it go.
I wonder how he managed to print the documents sent to him by the Inquiry.
I don’t know how the guy leading the cross examination keeps calm in the face of such blatant lies but in any case if all the senior management is SO incompetent any bonuses paid should be forfeited.
Yes plus their gold plated pensions to help pay for these poor people to be compensated.
@@annbooth4601 Absolutely. I want them on pot-hole duties.
A real lawyer with morals up against a snake
The KC is excellent.
There is no way that anyone in the workforce in 2010 who does a white collar job doesn't know how to use email, print documents or create and save documents. Especially in the law profession. The man's a liar. I hope he's caught out and is tried for perjury.
Exactly & he made their job even easier to convict him. He could have said he did have thee skills but not recall doing any of it. He tried to play dumb & now they will prove he did have the skills in 2010 & he panicked because he didn't know they had the printouts & data from MS Outlook.
I'm wondering if they can go through his emails to see if he made any reference to saving or printing a document
@@davidgriffithsbjjcoach7207 I am sure they can & probably already have. A lawyer will always only ask the questions needed & never give anything away unless they are legally required to (like this horrible lawyer did not do to the victims of the PO scandals). Singh if had any intelligence must have known they had access to everything, so to play dumb was stupid. He could have said it was probably printed off & misplaced & he didn't open the document & just printed it off. Instead though he panicked & went straight to the "I had no tech skills" argument.
@@triax7006 it always amazes me the stupidity of some people. I used to work in a bookies and the amount of thieving going on among colleagues is rife but they always get caught the system records everything even if you delete it, its backed up and everything you do is monitored and thieves always think they're too clever to get caught but their greed is their undoing
Jason is sooo cool. Destroys without aggresion
Wonder why the post office chose to select only individuals who were affiliated by rather a cruel disease of Alzheimers/ Dementia!!!. Their memory loss caused untold pain ,emotional and financial ruin most importantly their reputation
The subpostmasters wrongly accused,arrested and imprisoned have no such difficulty remembering their suffering .😅
Mr Beer should be made our next Prime minister
Who employed this man who couldn't understand emails couldn't print anything and remember anything. But unable to ask anyone to help him out. I have problems but then I m old and not being paid by anyone.
Exactly. Selective amnesia.
You forgot to add, whatever happened was always someone else's responsibility and someone else's fault...
I would think that with the mantra, "give foreigners responsible jobs even though they are not qualified", which I might add is still widespread in the UK, they took this guy on so as to prove how very inclusive they were ! I spit on folk who choose colour over capability.
Needs reporting to the Solicitors Regulation Authority as being a complete liar !!!
By this time they'll already know. Surely !
Definitely some serious B/S going on there after this performance who would trust him to represent them in an Court. 😂
Bring in his secretary to testify he knew how to save and print documents.
This individual is lying through his teeth. Should be debarred from his profession. 😂😂😂
That's no punishment, nobody will ever employ him, he needs to do 5 years in prison, have his Pension confiscated and be deported together with dependants.
Incredible admirable man .Jason Beer.Very thorough and persistent.Getting to the truth at long last.
It appears to me that all these people being questioned have been briefed that the best thing to say in response to any question is "I don't remember". This whole thing makes me sick, and angry.
This is Mr. Beer doing what he does best! 😊
Jamail Singh is like Vicki Polard, " yer but no but yer but no.😂
Nice one Jason
What was this man paid for doing nothing seeing nothing hearing nothing saying nothing. Thanks to Mr Beer for coming in ill and showing is what this man really is.
May be akin to the three " WISE" monkeys !!
Jail !
IMO he should face charges for perverting the course of justice.
This guy still a lawyer????
Excellent question. He's still a regulated solicitor with an unblemished record. Beggars belief.
Hopefully, pretty unemployable though.
In private practice
@@simonroguska3260 He did have an unblemished record, dont think the head hunters will be after him now.
Jarnail Singh. Southall’s finest. A stain on the Sikh community. Shameful to the core.
Insert short video of Homer Simpson running around with his pants on fire.
This guy is either a lier or completely incompetent and how on earth did he get to that position in the Post Office
That's why he got so far.
Easily. Have you dealt with public sector legal teams ?
Doh! Marge my pants are on fire....
Or both maybe?
Well, he does look a lot like Mr. Burns!!
What an excellent human being is Jason Beer.
In stark contrast to this excuse for a human being.
This guy was/is totally incompetent, can’t print or save a document, doesn’t read his emails. None of those explanations are a defense to what happened under his management. What exactly did he do. The fact that this has gone on for so long is damming.
saying he doesn't know how to save or print an email and/or email attachment, every 6 year old kindergarten kid goes, " mummy, hold my milk.. "