Jerry was the most empathetic player and vocalist ever. His playing and singing always precisely conveyed the emotion of the song and the story within. A masterful storyteller.
@@jamescerone very intelligent in a spiritual way. Jerry was a hard working guitarist. Don’t let the heroin fool you. Many accounts of him constantly practicing. John Mayer is a great guitarist. Great feel and extremely knowledgeable about his craft. The best technical/feel guitarist today. Jerry was one of the best technical/feel guitarists of his time. Others better technically but none with his feel. Both well spoken and insightful
I’m 70 now so I grew up with it all back in the day. John explains it all well here.All the pyrotechnic type guitar players have shrunk in significance for me over time and my favorites are predicated on taste, phrasing, nuance…aesthetics in general. So I find myself more drawn to Jerry Garcia, David Gilmour and Peter Green than other players from back when. And of those three what Jerry had that the other two didn’t, aside from the fact that he’s an American, is his connection to bluegrass and country music that influenced him and his style. They all had the blues and rock and roll love in their playing but Jerry synthesized it all in his indomitable way. I miss him still as I suppose most everyone who watched this video does too. Thanks for posting this and thanks to these guys for keeping the circle unbroken.
Oteil nailed it. "Jerry's guitar is remarkably healing". He takes us to a spiritual journey through his solos. That's why Jerry will forever be my no.1
This discussion, no doubt went over a few heads, but if you got chills, or your emotions welled up suddenly, you understood what Oteil, John and Bill are talking about.
It's funny hearing John Mayer talk about Jerry having a Freddie King "moment." Jerry always said Freddie King was one of his really big influences on the electric guitar. I'll bet Jerry had lots of Freddie King moments!
One thing that is so refreshing about Jerry is that he wasn’t a lick-based player like so many others (especially blues players). He was really able to flow through songs and jams without being repetitive or choppy, like a river just moving. John makes a really good point in this about how his playing is almost like a piano but upwards and with a guitar. Totally agree.
Began listening to Jerry Garcia in 1972, and was always stuck by his “choices”. It’s wasn’t always about the choices he made playing licks and phrasing from moment to moment. But it was just as mesmerizing to hear the choices that were the pauses and spaces between.
So well spoken ….I also analyze and try to peer deeply into his music and how Jerry’s and all of our energies together created this wonderful thing we shared and lived …right? Great post my friend 🙏
“A man leaves his fingerprint through his choices” …that was a really good quote from JM…he was speaking of JG bc he only knew JG via his music he left behind for us. I honestly just got a small admiration for JM…he never knew the thing we knew - he was too young - we were touring in the 80s-90s and it lives in me. And JM just shared, unintentionally, his humility and I think that was just so great and it was like the thing I had always wanted to know for him … (I totally have to learn to do shorter comments too…ugh. Just my OCD or perhaps the lasting effects of much LSD where I think and explore too deeply in ideas and theory and music or whatever lol) I’ve done plenty of D&C over the years and never could connect w JM (honestly cannot even look at him when they’re playing) but this thing he just said gave me a nod of respect for him - so maybe going forward I’ll accept more - the door is open now …but who the f am I anyway right ? All the things I planned to do I only did half way ….and my life has been sadly a theme of broken dreams and shattered years …especially since 95
Hey now, let’s not lie to each other, Jerry let loose for a couple years before he saw the value of that refined articulate approach he grew into. Some of the Lovelights and Good Lovin’s from 68-70 were blazing.
I couldn’t have picked a better example to illustrate my comment! There are a handful of Lovelights from ‘69 that are the musical equivalent of molten lava…
That’s true, like the shredding at the end of Viola Lee Blues of the early years. He made a conscious choice to move away from the psychedelic freak out guitar, and into the melodic journey.
It’s part of the reason why Jerry is still such a fascinating musician to me. It’s not often that you get to “check in” with a virtuoso like Jerry 150-200 times a year, year after year for a couple decades. Sure, other artists put out an album every few years and they tour to promote the album, but that’s nothing compared to 200 shows that are loosely structured but designed in such a way to leave room for improvisation. We got to watch Jerry evolve, not just see snapshots of the evolution. One night he’d play a particular line, a few nights later that line would have progressed into something new and it continued throughout his life. It was a new way for me to interact with the music and it wasn’t just Jerry, it was the band that continually metamorphosed. That symbiotic relationship is what I believe made the Dead so special. They all “sharpened” one another, similar to athletes pushing each other for a new PR and that led to some of the most interesting and impactful music in human history. ❤️
Jerry's playing on Eyes, Playin', others I don't think was excessive or over the top. Just a different era/phase... he was younger and had more energy (granted some was chemical), he was reacting to the jazzier more fluid playing of Keith (vs Brent)... listen to the (1st!) Eyes at my favorite show, Stanford 02.09.73. This is "fast Jerry," but every note sounds intentional. One of the best rock guitar solos I've ever heard.
From a Guy who plays guitar for years and listened to all the classics and never dug the Dead until recently I can say every guitarist should study Jerry's playing as it will make you a more complete player. As his style is less is more, nuances, layering, understanding chordal notes while playin over changes. You can take a song like fire on the mountain and learn how to play over a Vamp switching between the B and the A and challenge your thinking playing chords, inversions, extension, maybe substitutions and mixolydian. Once you have concurred that then you can expand to a slow song like Morning Dew and now you can't just blindly use a scale as the song changes keys but its slow enough and the chord structure is simple enough that you have time to think until you don't have to think anymore.The Dead is honestly a walk through how to play guitar melodically and challenge yourself to stop thinking scales and think about the lyrics and feel the notes. If you cannot play a solo on your guitar that is interesting without someone playing bass or rhythm behind you then you are not playing guitar. Lastly, Jerry uses effects but his guitar is very clean not over distorted so you cannot hide behind noise you're playing has to work and sound crisp. Jerry is a very important study for a guitarist.
@@fmellish71 Like it or not, Jerry was an incredibly sloppy player. He had the knowledge of his instrument, but he just couldn’t keep it together. I mean hell, he misses the high root note at the end of the walk up in almost every morning dew… literally the most important note of the song. Also, none of them gave a single fuck about their singing voices and it painfully shows.
@@jamescerone Sure, he was sloppy, but most Dead shows I've heard are from between '66-'78 and I have seldom heard him miss that note in Morning Dew. He did hit the G string by mistake A LOT, though and sometimes he would get a little lost in a solo. Apart from the odd mistake here and there being done by a guy who at times is on LSD playing two 90-minute sets, that's not too bad even if his band's on Warner Bros. Nobody's listening to the Grateful Dead for a perfect performance, anyway and if they are, they will be disappointed. The indirect point that I was adding on to is the culture of gatekeeping that I picked up on with the guitar teachers that I had. The ones I had all dogged on Garcia, Jimi Hendrix and John McLaughlin for being sloppy instead of acknowledging not only the spirit of those players, but that they're being paid to teach this kid guitar who loves those players.
@@fmellish71 Okay. I'm just saying Jerry was a sloppy player and that's why many guitar teachers don't like to encourage their students to emulate him. I'm not arguing that it's not somewhat narrow-minded, but it does make sense and is a totally reasonable attitude.
@@FirstdaysRthehardest go listen to any professional jazz player improvise, and you may change your tune. Jerry was constantly making mistakes almost every bar of everything he played (sometimes because he was also on acid lol), which is not something most professional improv musicians do
Here's my contribution to the discussion of the excellence and timelessness of Jerry's guitar playing. For everyone's information I'm viewing this video for the first time on Wednesday, July 20, 2022. In my personal collection of GD albums it seems I have 36 live performances of Dark Star (which is my current listening fascination). My observation, first conceived today, is that the best of the long improvisations typical of that song provide me the same range of musical appreciations and feelings of beauty I experience while listening to some of Mozart's later works (particularly the second movements of concertos and similar musical forms (like divertimenti). The point here is Jerry's music really is that timeless and evocative, right up there with other great composers and musicians.
This is really fantastic we could sure stand for more of this. I'm like many a massive Jerry lover and it's hard to accept anything else but I really like John Meyer, he seems to be a cool guy and I can appreciate that. Hearing him talk makes me want to give dead and co a go. How times have changed. The old days shine like the sun lighting up the world with a vision of what can be.
I’ve had the same …hmm…dilemma (?) for years at D & C…. Maybe it’s not what you intended to share but probably , like yourself , having lived on and off the road in the GD life experience from very early 80s - 95…idk that seems to be my reality and only very recently have I come to accept things today being as they are - ok I just totally confused myself!! So I’ll shut up!!Lol
@@staggerleee1053 its strange, like it turned from the renaissance to the renaissance fair. But that's always the case, we go out to a show and and its a mere logo, hanging on to something while ticket prices soar and the music doesn't. From the haight to this? That's just the nature the system I guess.
Jerry was the best at what he did + nobody could do what he did or come close to sounding like him ,one of a kind who he was+ will b 4 ever ! 🩷🐰🐇☠️💀👽🛸🩷🥳🫣🤩love him until I die ! In death do us part !
The one thing many overlook is Jerry's refusal to exert discipline over himself. As with so many entertainment 'gods,' his prodigious talent got him massive goodwill, enablers, free time and money to live (with the exception of mastering his arts) an undisciplined life which shortchanged fans and band mates. He didn't have to die at 53-going-on-70...
my dad was a deadhead and i was literally hearing jerry in the car on the way home from the hospital when i was born, im a deadhead from birth (1987). jerry sure did supply me with a hobby i love, i love the tone chasing and all the gear, i was fascinated learning music theory, and i love picking up my guitar and floating away with the sounds, thanks uncle jerry❤
To Billy’s comment about Jerry’s playing after everybody left the stage as the truest Jerry. Check out 2nd set of 5/13/77 Chicago Auditorium Theater. Perfect example of that playing.
Jerry's playing was always interesting. The notes he played were melodic and told a story. Perhaps playing so often under the influence of LSD in the early days gave shape to how he approached guitar. His playing was tailor made for people high on psychedelics.
Fluidity and moment to moment choices are what always fascinated me about Jerry Garcia's playing. And all housed within the fluidity and moment to moment choices of a great band of musicians. What a beautiful and wonderful thing to experience.
Jerry knew the instrument front to back and played differently everytime. Took you on a journey. There will never be another. Richie Kotzen seems to be the modern day player who’s lyrics n music take me.
Some people were put on this earth to amazing things like, doctors, specialists, Neuro sergeons. Jerry was a heart surgeon... People go to a Dead show hurting, worried, scared, and they would leave healed. People would leave with answers, and a solution sometimes. Jerry was a heart surgeon.
Jerr took his playing SO Serious & From His Heart - at each concert he made love to the 1000's present - AND HE MEANT IT ! The bent notes and tones are very touching, and the quiet moments in mid song accentuate it so well. The Jerr Garcia Band is Very Deep & Emotional - Reaching Out to the Lord Himself at times ! Thank You Jerr, For a Real Good Time ! (~);}
You know, early John Mayer was too pop and not very fun to listen too. However when I saw him playing with the Dead, thst got my attention. I now believe he is one exceptional guitar player. Watching him evolve has been a pleasure.
My experience of Jerry was that of some multiple heads and arms Hindi deity. In on night ya would get a spicy gumbo mix of Doc Watson, Jango Reinheart , Jimi Hendrix, Chuck Berry, Scotty More, Frank Zappa, Muddy Waters, Carl Perkins , Miles Davis, John Coltrane and a rock the house crunch and stomp and boogie of Jimmy Page….and that was just the first set!🎸
Garcia , with the dead and his own Garcia albums along with his Blue Grass compilations and Banjo influences, has made him great and his mix of all worlds in his music made his cosmic country sound.
Oteil summarized my experience w/ the Grateful Dead and my obsession w/ Jerry Garcia's guitar playing very well, I needed to mature a little more to appreciate it. As Mayer was saying, you almost have to experience them all to come back and appreciate how special Jerry's playing was and how graceful, layered, elegant in his approach. As a player, I found myself growing up wanting to sound raw and menacing, like Tommi Iommi, Johnny Ramone, Ron Asheton, Jimi, Eddie, etc. Powerful, loud, aggressive. Now, the most music I play is the Grateful Dead and trying to imitate Jerry has advanced my playing ten folds.
I’m 45 and grew up on heavy / shredding stuff but as I’ve got older listening to the nuance of players like Page, Beck, Harrison, Hendrix, Ry Cooder, Lowell George, even Brian May and Billy Gibbons is an eye opener
Brian May is absolutely a great example of making the most of each note. Never using notes as speed devices, but as expressions that should be savored more in terms of tone
I particularly like Jerry's guitar lines in between vocal phrases. My favorite of his guitar solos are when he isn't a lot louder than the band but mixed in at the same loudness level. He knew how to blend his guitar in so nicely. Hopefully that makes sense lol
Yes. I agree @sgg6927. I was just listening to the Garcia-Grisman piece "Grateful Dawg" and the way Jerry moves from lead playing to backing up David Grisman is amazing. His lead playing is great, but his accompaniment to Grisman's lead is fascinating. It blends perfectly.
If you're lucky, aging changes your perspective. Crash Landing is one of my favorite Hendrix albums. Every artist that endures, changes. The others fall by the wayside. Some die young and never get to learn about the changes that come with age. Johnny Winter was everything I wanted to be, then I discovered Muddy Waters who introduced me to Robert Johnson. The songs I wrote 10 years ago are completely different from those I write now. It's cliché but change really is the only constant.
I played the Mosque Dave's Picks 1 They Love Each Other solo for a talented pal of mine, and he said it's like you're an infant being cradled and quietly sung to and there's no fear of being dropped.
"Jerry is gone in one form, but like the magician that he is, he has explosively been transformed into a million Jerrys-one improvising in each of our hearts." - Ram Dass
4:27. “Hints at the blues, but not the blues.” I would remind people that he thought of his music as what happens when you start with serious bluegrass playing.
I really love the fact that people have so much respect for J. Garcia and the 🎶GRATEFUL DEAD🎶 I first heard them when driving up to go snow skiing with my dad and older brother when their first album came out in I think it was 1966? I was 11 years old. Still listen to their music to this day, because to me, they still are America's Best ever jam band. Peace up all u 🎶DEAD FANS🎶 🌴😃🎶🏄🏄🏄🎶😃🌴
When jerry sounded like another instrument, he stopped playing guitar, and started playing another instrument. I saw an interview quote once where someone told him he sounded like he was playing a trumpet in a song, and jerry said "thats because I AM playing a trumpet, man". Its things like that that change how I think about music and guitar. He isnt just changing tones and trying to make a guitar sound like a trumpet, he was actually in that moment as a trumpet player. RIP Jerry.
For me, Jerry didn’t play notes, he released notes. His notes are hardly imbued with his own character, and instead they exist in their own universe and context. It’s a very unique feeling and must be very deep
Singable lead lines. Like on “Candy Man”… ELEGANCE, a great way to explain it… healing, YES! Laments…. YES… 4:38 And he plays WITH the band… Wharf Rat… these songs get me every time.
Was Jerry having a Freddy King moment because you hear Freddy King? Or was he reflecting a common influence between the two? Remember, they were nearly contemporaries; Freddy was only 8 years older than Jerry. Plus, do we ever really know who all our influences are? There's so much music that's gone by in the background, in the womb, maybe in our DNA...
I so want to understand the Dead, but up to now, I haven’t “gotten” it. I’m a JM fan which drew me to follow them on UA-cam, and while I respect it, I don’t yet get it. Maybe that will change. Althea is the only tune that hooks me in. If any Deadheads have other suggestions for me to progress into, please share.
Seriously right ? It kinda shows really …but whatever. Still not sure how I feel about him but the clip and what he said kinda opened the door for me a little. Looking forward to summer shows ☀️❤️🙏🌹
C'mon, he was Captain Trips. He was all about stony, extended guitar solos, and he was the best at marching up to the higher notes and exploding through them.
Valiant attempt by many. But no one has duplicated his sound or ability to take us to another world..nor have they been able to open the "crack" to let out the rivers
I dunno Oteil, Jerry never struck me as all that feminine. I never felt like his playing was feminine either. And John, Jerry played quite bombastically sometimes as well. Every Dead song isn't Eyes of the World, and it is possible to play a faster tempo then a waltz. What I hear when I hear Jerry playing is a guitar player with a seemingly limitless pallet of style, skill, and technique expressing the full scope and range of human emotion at will.
Jerry was at his best in the 80 s while I was around to c the downfall of Jerry so when he as happy it showed because he cared more for his music than anything else includiing his wife’s o children , not that he didn’t love them but music was all his life ! That is one reason while I left him 😢😥😫😰🥵😔❤️🐰🐇🩵💀☠️🩷👽🪐🛸🚀my favorite emojis !
My style of guitar soloing is almost entirely coppe'd from Jerry Garcia and Eric Clapton. Jerry is more for the modes, Clapton more on the blues scales. Great dudes
Jerry was the most empathetic player and vocalist ever. His playing and singing always precisely conveyed the emotion of the song and the story within. A masterful storyteller.
John Mayer is SOOOOOOO smart. He always says interesting things in interesting ways.
Mayers shitpost account?
Yeah you can really tell he has a highly intelligent analytical mind combined with an ability to communicate it eloquently.
Eerily similar to Jerry
@@nickdarbenzio1681 in what possible way lmao
@@jamescerone very intelligent in a spiritual way. Jerry was a hard working guitarist. Don’t let the heroin fool you. Many accounts of him constantly practicing. John Mayer is a great guitarist. Great feel and extremely knowledgeable about his craft. The best technical/feel guitarist today. Jerry was one of the best technical/feel guitarists of his time. Others better technically but none with his feel. Both well spoken and insightful
Jerry’s guitar playing touches my soul it’s something special no other musicians warms my heart like he can
Oteil used the word "healing" and I feel that's perfect.
John Mayer ,a most thoughtful individual.@@MrVinman711
"Would you hear my voice come through the music?
Would you hold it near as it were your own?"
I’m 70 now so I grew up with it all back in the day. John explains it all well here.All the pyrotechnic type guitar players have shrunk in significance for me over time and my favorites are predicated on taste, phrasing, nuance…aesthetics in general. So I find myself more drawn to Jerry Garcia, David Gilmour and Peter Green than other players from back when. And of those three what Jerry had that the other two didn’t, aside from the fact that he’s an American, is his connection to bluegrass and country music that influenced him and his style. They all had the blues and rock and roll love in their playing but Jerry synthesized it all in his indomitable way. I miss him still as I suppose most everyone who watched this video does too. Thanks for posting this and thanks to these guys for keeping the circle unbroken.
Santana and others also. Emotional content.
Oteil nailed it. "Jerry's guitar is remarkably healing". He takes us to a spiritual journey through his solos. That's why Jerry will forever be my no.1
Jerry lived in timelessness, and his music is a portal to that amazing world. 🙏 GOAT
Perfectly said
This discussion, no doubt went over a few heads, but if you got chills, or your emotions welled up suddenly, you understood what Oteil, John and Bill are talking about.
Absolutely. Was just about to say the same thing.
I’m not even kidding 4:20 was when it really started for me, when Bill starts talking about his personality coming through. What a guy.
Intense !
Still choking up a bit…
It's funny hearing John Mayer talk about Jerry having a Freddie King "moment." Jerry always said Freddie King was one of his really big influences on the electric guitar. I'll bet Jerry had lots of Freddie King moments!
What John said in this clip is spot on. I just don't ever hear ANY other guitarist that gets discussed at this depth!
One thing that is so refreshing about Jerry is that he wasn’t a lick-based player like so many others (especially blues players). He was really able to flow through songs and jams without being repetitive or choppy, like a river just moving. John makes a really good point in this about how his playing is almost like a piano but upwards and with a guitar. Totally agree.
Yes the "Big River"
It's enjoyabe trying to emulate the piano parts on guitar when figuring out cover songs.
I could listen to three hours of these guys on this topic
Began listening to Jerry Garcia in 1972, and was always stuck by his “choices”. It’s wasn’t always about the choices he made playing licks and phrasing from moment to moment. But it was just as mesmerizing to hear the choices that were the pauses and spaces between.
So well spoken ….I also analyze and try to peer deeply into his music and how Jerry’s and all of our energies together created this wonderful thing we shared and lived …right? Great post my friend 🙏
not a fan of mayer's music but I could listen to him talk about guitar shit all day
Healing vibe🧡True Jerry!🧡
Loved the glance over the glasses.
John is so wise, brilliant and articulate. I hope he writes a book sometime. Very deep soul.
John Mayer’s music mind is incredible
“A man leaves his fingerprint through his choices” …that was a really good quote from JM…he was speaking of JG bc he only knew JG via his music he left behind for us. I honestly just got a small admiration for JM…he never knew the thing we knew - he was too young - we were touring in the 80s-90s and it lives in me. And JM just shared, unintentionally, his humility and I think that was just so great and it was like the thing I had always wanted to know for him …
(I totally have to learn to do shorter comments too…ugh. Just my OCD or perhaps the lasting effects of much LSD where I think and explore too deeply in ideas and theory and music or whatever lol)
I’ve done plenty of D&C over the years and never could connect w JM (honestly cannot even look at him when they’re playing) but this thing he just said gave me a nod of respect for him - so maybe going forward I’ll accept more - the door is open now …but who the f am I anyway right ? All the things I planned to do I only did half way ….and my life has been sadly a theme of broken dreams and shattered years …especially since 95
What does, “we were touring in the 80’s-90’s” refer to, were you in the band?
@kevinelliott5823 It means going to see lots and lots of Dead shows.
I feel as u do staggerleee because I haven’t been able to move on or care to when Jerry left us he took part of us with him ! 🩵🐇🐰💜👻👽🪐🚀🛸🖤😱💀☠️🤝
Hey now, let’s not lie to each other, Jerry let loose for a couple years before he saw the value of that refined articulate approach he grew into. Some of the Lovelights and Good Lovin’s from 68-70 were blazing.
you're right... I'm currently learning this '69 Love Light Jerry solo. His speed actually amazes me. ua-cam.com/video/Kyn36mHokpQ/v-deo.html
I couldn’t have picked a better example to illustrate my comment! There are a handful of Lovelights from ‘69 that are the musical equivalent of molten lava…
That’s true, like the shredding at the end of Viola Lee Blues of the early years. He made a conscious choice to move away from the psychedelic freak out guitar, and into the melodic journey.
It’s part of the reason why Jerry is still such a fascinating musician to me. It’s not often that you get to “check in” with a virtuoso like Jerry 150-200 times a year, year after year for a couple decades. Sure, other artists put out an album every few years and they tour to promote the album, but that’s nothing compared to 200 shows that are loosely structured but designed in such a way to leave room for improvisation. We got to watch Jerry evolve, not just see snapshots of the evolution. One night he’d play a particular line, a few nights later that line would have progressed into something new and it continued throughout his life. It was a new way for me to interact with the music and it wasn’t just Jerry, it was the band that continually metamorphosed. That symbiotic relationship is what I believe made the Dead so special. They all “sharpened” one another, similar to athletes pushing each other for a new PR and that led to some of the most interesting and impactful music in human history. ❤️
Jerry's playing on Eyes, Playin', others I don't think was excessive or over the top. Just a different era/phase... he was younger and had more energy (granted some was chemical), he was reacting to the jazzier more fluid playing of Keith (vs Brent)... listen to the (1st!) Eyes at my favorite show, Stanford 02.09.73. This is "fast Jerry," but every note sounds intentional. One of the best rock guitar solos I've ever heard.
From a Guy who plays guitar for years and listened to all the classics and never dug the Dead until recently I can say every guitarist should study Jerry's playing as it will make you a more complete player. As his style is less is more, nuances, layering, understanding chordal notes while playin over changes. You can take a song like fire on the mountain and learn how to play over a Vamp switching between the B and the A and challenge your thinking playing chords, inversions, extension, maybe substitutions and mixolydian. Once you have concurred that then you can expand to a slow song like Morning Dew and now you can't just blindly use a scale as the song changes keys but its slow enough and the chord structure is simple enough that you have time to think until you don't have to think anymore.The Dead is honestly a walk through how to play guitar melodically and challenge yourself to stop thinking scales and think about the lyrics and feel the notes. If you cannot play a solo on your guitar that is interesting without someone playing bass or rhythm behind you then you are not playing guitar. Lastly, Jerry uses effects but his guitar is very clean not over distorted so you cannot hide behind noise you're playing has to work and sound crisp. Jerry is a very important study for a guitarist.
...yet every guitar teacher I ever had was dismissive of him. Shows that you can only learn so much from teachers.
@@fmellish71 Like it or not, Jerry was an incredibly sloppy player. He had the knowledge of his instrument, but he just couldn’t keep it together. I mean hell, he misses the high root note at the end of the walk up in almost every morning dew… literally the most important note of the song.
Also, none of them gave a single fuck about their singing voices and it painfully shows.
@@jamescerone Sure, he was sloppy, but most Dead shows I've heard are from between '66-'78 and I have seldom heard him miss that note in Morning Dew. He did hit the G string by mistake A LOT, though and sometimes he would get a little lost in a solo. Apart from the odd mistake here and there being done by a guy who at times is on LSD playing two 90-minute sets, that's not too bad even if his band's on Warner Bros. Nobody's listening to the Grateful Dead for a perfect performance, anyway and if they are, they will be disappointed.
The indirect point that I was adding on to is the culture of gatekeeping that I picked up on with the guitar teachers that I had. The ones I had all dogged on Garcia, Jimi Hendrix and John McLaughlin for being sloppy instead of acknowledging not only the spirit of those players, but that they're being paid to teach this kid guitar who loves those players.
@@fmellish71 Okay. I'm just saying Jerry was a sloppy player and that's why many guitar teachers don't like to encourage their students to emulate him. I'm not arguing that it's not somewhat narrow-minded, but it does make sense and is a totally reasonable attitude.
@@FirstdaysRthehardest go listen to any professional jazz player improvise, and you may change your tune. Jerry was constantly making mistakes almost every bar of everything he played (sometimes because he was also on acid lol), which is not something most professional improv musicians do
Watching the Dead throughout the ‘80’s was so amazing. Watching Garcia just do his stuff when he was laid back was unbelievable to see & hear!!!
Here's my contribution to the discussion of the excellence and timelessness of Jerry's guitar playing. For everyone's information I'm viewing this video for the first time on Wednesday, July 20, 2022.
In my personal collection of GD albums it seems I have 36 live performances of Dark Star (which is my current listening fascination). My observation, first conceived today, is that the best of the long improvisations typical of that song provide me the same range of musical appreciations and feelings of beauty I experience while listening to some of Mozart's later works (particularly the second movements of concertos and similar musical forms (like divertimenti). The point here is Jerry's music really is that timeless and evocative, right up there with other great composers and musicians.
He went for emotions and beauty. He said "For me, it's always emotional".
I couldn't agree more. I always say Jerry is up there with Mozart and Miles. Transcendental and timeless.
dark star mm
Bla bla bla you love to hear yourself .a lot of big words that didn’t add to anything 😂
Actually I thought the comparison to Mozart was very insightful. In some jams the Dead sounded very symphonic.
Mayer’s take on Jerry’s “fingerprint” and meeting him musically is so amazing.
This video is Sooo Friggin Fantastic! Thank You for sharing Mr. Mayer 👍💯
This is really fantastic we could sure stand for more of this. I'm like many a massive Jerry lover and it's hard to accept anything else but I really like John Meyer, he seems to be a cool guy and I can appreciate that. Hearing him talk makes me want to give dead and co a go. How times have changed. The old days shine like the sun lighting up the world with a vision of what can be.
I’ve had the same …hmm…dilemma (?) for years at D & C…. Maybe it’s not what you intended to share but probably , like yourself , having lived on and off the road in the GD life experience from very early 80s - 95…idk that seems to be my reality and only very recently have I come to accept things today being as they are - ok I just totally confused myself!! So I’ll shut up!!Lol
@@staggerleee1053 its strange, like it turned from the renaissance to the renaissance fair. But that's always the case, we go out to a show and and its a mere logo, hanging on to something while ticket prices soar and the music doesn't. From the haight to this? That's just the nature the system I guess.
Jerry literally saves ,his music is medicinal…Thank you Jerry ❤
Do y’all have a discussion on the making of Shakedown Street? Would love to hear how it was to work with Lowell and Jerry together
I hardly recognized Bill without the facial hair
Love is Real 🌹 Thank You 🌻
"Peoples souls live in the variances between their performances" - John Mayer
Jerry was the best at what he did + nobody could do what he did or come close to sounding like him ,one of a kind who he was+ will b 4 ever ! 🩷🐰🐇☠️💀👽🛸🩷🥳🫣🤩love him until I die ! In death do us part !
A buddy of mine had cover band at house last year.Crazy as it seems I felt Jerry there
The one thing many overlook is Jerry's refusal to exert discipline over himself. As with so many entertainment 'gods,' his prodigious talent got him massive goodwill, enablers, free time and money to live (with the exception of mastering his arts) an undisciplined life which shortchanged fans and band mates.
He didn't have to die at 53-going-on-70...
my dad was a deadhead and i was literally hearing jerry in the car on the way home from the hospital when i was born, im a deadhead from birth (1987). jerry sure did supply me with a hobby i love, i love the tone chasing and all the gear, i was fascinated learning music theory, and i love picking up my guitar and floating away with the sounds, thanks uncle jerry❤
Jerry's always tasteful licks have brought a huge grin to my face countless times and when it's really good goosebumps and sheer bliss😊
To Billy’s comment about Jerry’s playing after everybody left the stage as the truest Jerry. Check out 2nd set of 5/13/77 Chicago Auditorium Theater. Perfect example of that playing.
It's cool to see what I've learned years ago to see John come around and master the licks
Definitely chills and deep moving emotions ... ummmmmmm ❤️🌹💥🌹❤️
Jerry's playing was always interesting. The notes he played were melodic and told a story. Perhaps playing so often under the influence of LSD in the early days gave shape to how he approached guitar. His playing was tailor made for people high on psychedelics.
Fluidity and moment to moment choices are what always fascinated me about Jerry Garcia's playing. And all housed within the fluidity and moment to moment choices of a great band of musicians. What a beautiful and wonderful thing to experience.
The fact that you hear Jerry play & you immediately kno “ thats Jerry Garcia”. Impresses me. One of the best
Totally!! I also get that with Mark Knopfler, immediately know it's him by just hearing, just like with Jerry Garcia, it's amazing!
I’m 72 and listen to music. I remember listening to Garcia when I was younger and it felt really young to me then
Jerry knew the instrument front to back and played differently everytime. Took you on a journey. There will never be another. Richie Kotzen seems to be the modern day player who’s lyrics n music take me.
Some people were put on this earth to amazing things like, doctors, specialists, Neuro sergeons. Jerry was a heart surgeon... People go to a Dead show hurting, worried, scared, and they would leave healed. People would leave with answers, and a solution sometimes. Jerry was a heart surgeon.
Great! Jerry in 73 & 74 with just Billy on drums was pure magic!
Jerr took his playing SO Serious & From His Heart - at each concert he made love to the 1000's present - AND HE MEANT IT !
The bent notes and tones are very touching, and the quiet moments in mid song accentuate it so well.
The Jerr Garcia Band is Very Deep & Emotional - Reaching Out to the Lord Himself at times !
Thank You Jerr, For a Real Good Time ! (~);}
Mayer is spot on about Garcia and Hendrix
Wow John that was really deep and really beautiful
You know, early John Mayer was too pop and not very fun to listen too. However when I saw him playing with the Dead, thst got my attention. I now believe he is one exceptional guitar player. Watching him evolve has been a pleasure.
My experience of Jerry was that of some multiple heads and arms Hindi deity.
In on night ya would get a spicy gumbo mix of Doc Watson, Jango Reinheart , Jimi Hendrix, Chuck Berry, Scotty More, Frank Zappa, Muddy Waters, Carl Perkins , Miles Davis, John Coltrane and a rock the house crunch and stomp and boogie of Jimmy Page….and that was just the first set!🎸
I think John is an amazing guitarist. I love his art.
Thought John Mayer was lame when i was young, but now i'm glad he's still going strong
He would be happy as long as they've played good quality 🎶🎵😊
Garcia , with the dead and his own Garcia albums along with his Blue Grass compilations and Banjo influences, has made him great and his mix of all worlds in his music made his cosmic country sound.
Oteil summarized my experience w/ the Grateful Dead and my obsession w/ Jerry Garcia's guitar playing very well, I needed to mature a little more to appreciate it. As Mayer was saying, you almost have to experience them all to come back and appreciate how special Jerry's playing was and how graceful, layered, elegant in his approach. As a player, I found myself growing up wanting to sound raw and menacing, like Tommi Iommi, Johnny Ramone, Ron Asheton, Jimi, Eddie, etc. Powerful, loud, aggressive. Now, the most music I play is the Grateful Dead and trying to imitate Jerry has advanced my playing ten folds.
Great points
I’m 45 and grew up on heavy / shredding stuff but as I’ve got older listening to the nuance of players like Page, Beck, Harrison, Hendrix, Ry Cooder, Lowell George, even Brian May and Billy Gibbons is an eye opener
Brian May is absolutely a great example of making the most of each note. Never using notes as speed devices, but as expressions that should be savored more in terms of tone
@@hermixtonen BM has that special tone style that is only his, much like how JG was so unique.
JG just magical
I dont understand how people could hate john when you see his reverence for jerry and the band.
I particularly like Jerry's guitar lines in between vocal phrases. My favorite of his guitar solos are when he isn't a lot louder than the band but mixed in at the same loudness level. He knew how to blend his guitar in so nicely. Hopefully that makes sense lol
Yes. I agree @sgg6927. I was just listening to the Garcia-Grisman piece "Grateful Dawg" and the way Jerry moves from lead playing to backing up David Grisman is amazing. His lead playing is great, but his accompaniment to Grisman's lead is fascinating. It blends perfectly.
Oteil described the experience really well
If you're lucky, aging changes your perspective. Crash Landing is one of my favorite Hendrix albums. Every artist that endures, changes. The others fall by the wayside. Some die young and never get to learn about the changes that come with age. Johnny Winter was everything I wanted to be, then I discovered Muddy Waters who introduced me to Robert Johnson. The songs I wrote 10 years ago are completely different from those I write now. It's cliché but change really is the only constant.
I played the Mosque Dave's Picks 1 They Love Each Other solo for a talented pal of mine, and he said it's like you're an infant being cradled and quietly sung to and there's no fear of being dropped.
"Jerry is gone in one form, but like the magician that he is, he has explosively been transformed into a million Jerrys-one improvising in each of our hearts." - Ram Dass
From what I gather, Jerry probably knew EXACTLY how to steal a car.
My favorite guitarists: Jerry Garcia and Robbie Robertson. Now they're both gone.😢
4:27. “Hints at the blues, but not the blues.” I would remind people that he thought of his music as what happens when you start with serious bluegrass playing.
Love Billy!
There's times I feel like he shows up when you're in that moment.
For the shows in between this is when I knew John was a head
Check out 8-14-1994 Warfield,SF -Shining Star - Jerry Garcia Band. This is why I love Jerry!
I really love the fact that people have so much respect for J. Garcia and the 🎶GRATEFUL DEAD🎶
I first heard them when driving up to go snow skiing with my dad and older brother when their first album came out in I think it was 1966? I was 11 years old.
Still listen to their music to this day, because to me, they still are America's Best ever jam band.
Peace up all u 🎶DEAD FANS🎶
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The flow of wave surfing and listening to the 🎶DEAD 🎶 is so awesome.
🌴✌🏄🏄🏄🏄🏄✌🌴
You guys still put a tear to my eye on certain songs.
😃😃😃😃😃😃
World's best ever band band IMO
Well said, John
Are those heat lamps or grow lights behind billy?
When jerry sounded like another instrument, he stopped playing guitar, and started playing another instrument. I saw an interview quote once where someone told him he sounded like he was playing a trumpet in a song, and jerry said "thats because I AM playing a trumpet, man". Its things like that that change how I think about music and guitar. He isnt just changing tones and trying to make a guitar sound like a trumpet, he was actually in that moment as a trumpet player. RIP Jerry.
The quote was "You sounded like a badass sax player"
"I AM a badass sax player, man." if I recall correctly.
For me, Jerry didn’t play notes, he released notes. His notes are hardly imbued with his own character, and instead they exist in their own universe and context. It’s a very unique feeling and must be very deep
Well that’s a quality reply
Singable lead lines. Like on “Candy Man”… ELEGANCE, a great way to explain it… healing, YES! Laments…. YES… 4:38 And he plays WITH the band… Wharf Rat… these songs get me every time.
Billy is unrecognizable without that mustache!
in one little interview, Jerry mentioned Django--saying that each note should have a personality--I think that's the key
I definitely think Jerry and the Dead are an acquired taste. The older i got the more I appreciated them. It seems many ppl are like that.
Whats a great dead album to start ? I know the odd track but i would like to start a deep dive into the albums ?
Start with Blues for Allah. It was Jerry's personal favorite, of all the records he ever played on or produced.
@@MyCleverHandle thanks
Was Jerry having a Freddy King moment because you hear Freddy King? Or was he reflecting a common influence between the two? Remember, they were nearly contemporaries; Freddy was only 8 years older than Jerry. Plus, do we ever really know who all our influences are? There's so much music that's gone by in the background, in the womb, maybe in our DNA...
John is a god.
Jerry didn't pluck the strings, he romanced the strings.
I’d rather hear Bill than the other guys he was Jerry’s friend and band mate.
I so want to understand the Dead, but up to now, I haven’t “gotten” it. I’m a JM fan which drew me to follow them on UA-cam, and while I respect it, I don’t yet get it. Maybe that will change. Althea is the only tune that hooks me in. If any Deadheads have other suggestions for me to progress into, please share.
Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that John Mayer only found out about the Dead in 2011
Seriously right ? It kinda shows really …but whatever. Still not sure how I feel about him but the clip and what he said kinda opened the door for me a little. Looking forward to summer shows ☀️❤️🙏🌹
When I hear Jerry play, particularly in his JG Band, I hear a lot of Bill Monroe influence.
"Music is God's gift to man, the only art of Heaven given to earth, the only art of earth we take to Heaven." Walter Savage Landor
One man down and another to go...
jerry was high when he played. just saying generally. i'm only a dead fanatic with their very first record, may, 1967. still sounds great to me.
C'mon, he was Captain Trips. He was all about stony, extended guitar solos, and he was the best at marching up to the higher notes and exploding through them.
Thought that was Doctor Evil in the top left
Valiant attempt by many. But no one has duplicated his sound or ability to take us to another world..nor have they been able to open the "crack" to let out the rivers
I dunno Oteil, Jerry never struck me as all that feminine. I never felt like his playing was feminine either. And John, Jerry played quite bombastically sometimes as well. Every Dead song isn't Eyes of the World, and it is possible to play a faster tempo then a waltz.
What I hear when I hear Jerry playing is a guitar player with a seemingly limitless pallet of style, skill, and technique expressing the full scope and range of human emotion at will.
Look at the bootlegs John has, he is on it
Jerry was at his best in the 80 s while I was around to c the downfall of Jerry so when he as happy it showed because he cared more for his music than anything else includiing his wife’s o children , not that he didn’t love them but music was all his life ! That is one reason while I left him 😢😥😫😰🥵😔❤️🐰🐇🩵💀☠️🩷👽🪐🛸🚀my favorite emojis !
Guitar explosion? Look no further than EVH's 'Eruption'.
My style of guitar soloing is almost entirely coppe'd from Jerry Garcia and Eric Clapton. Jerry is more for the modes, Clapton more on the blues scales. Great dudes
I sure wish John Mayer would let Billy talk. I'm a thousand times more interested in what he has to say. A million. A billion.