Žižek on how to stop being depressed (Surplus Enjoyment/subjective destitution)

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  • Hello and good morning everyone, today is like to discuss the introduction to Slavoj Žižek’s book “Surplus Enjoyment: A guide for the non-perplexed.
    My complete guide to Žižek ebook can be found here: www.patreon.com/julianphilosophy
    #zizek #slavojzizek #philosophy

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  • @julianphilosophy
    @julianphilosophy  4 місяці тому +11

    My “Complete Guide to Žižek” ebook is now available: www.patreon.com/julianphilosophy

  • @josephsuruiz
    @josephsuruiz 4 місяці тому +27

    Hope you and Zizek will have a podcast episode in the future.

  • @txikitofandango
    @txikitofandango 4 місяці тому +25

    10 years ago my then s.o. and I came up with a motto "the punishment is its own reward". I don't know if it's true or just a coping mechanism, but it has helped!

  • @chengzhou8711
    @chengzhou8711 4 місяці тому +10

    This may the most useful Žižek lecture to me yet

  • @cernunnos123
    @cernunnos123 4 місяці тому +44

    Unprecedented hair game, sir.

    • @jackl4349
      @jackl4349 4 місяці тому +3

      I appreciate his resistance to grow a goatee or, dare I say, a beard.

  • @rossmckie1
    @rossmckie1 4 місяці тому +10

    You are a beacon that illuminates in these endlessly thoughtless times… p.s. Julian, you should have an opener with credits with each ep.!

  • @andrewcraig3113
    @andrewcraig3113 4 місяці тому +1

    Happy to hear I’m part of the non-perplexed :) great discussion, you break it down without watering down the complexity - not many channels find that sweet spot

  • @declanmcclelland
    @declanmcclelland 4 місяці тому +1

    Excellent, yes please, more videos, Individual chapters would be great 👍🏻 Also, I love how you got right into the video with a relatively short introduction.

  • @Summer-kb2dm
    @Summer-kb2dm 4 місяці тому +1

    I've always enjoyed your videos. But lately - so incredibly good! Thank you for your work and effort.

  • @TheRealNickG
    @TheRealNickG 4 місяці тому +19

    Somehow the philosophy just hits differently when Julian has a nice hair day. Maybe philosophy without combed hair is like coffee without cream? 😂

  • @PjotrFrank
    @PjotrFrank День тому

    Great. Now I have to read the book. I'm in no way pouting about it, but sincerely looking forward to the experience.

  • @Zizeksagalma
    @Zizeksagalma 4 місяці тому

    Love the connections to Freud’s ‘Krieg und Tode’ (precisely his “Si vis vitam, para mortem” and its relation to subjective destitution/repetitive death (partial) drive enjoyment) and repressive desublimation. The structuring of these lectures really amplify previous concepts and their applied contexts (in this case, Ž’s Surplus Enjoyment)!

  • @李莉-t9r
    @李莉-t9r 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for talking about this subject!

  • @Diego68678
    @Diego68678 4 місяці тому

    Dear Julian, first, thank you for your videos.
    Second, I would add that the title could also be an ironic reference to Maimonides' "The guide for the perplexed."

  • @thinker8923
    @thinker8923 4 місяці тому +1

    Hello Julian - would appreciate more philosophical reviews on recent movies like Mad Max Furiosa, as well as extending out to cover tv shows. A few suggestions would be: better call saul, the wire, mr robot, the americans. Thanks!

  • @carinanicolini133
    @carinanicolini133 3 дні тому

    I’m not native English speaker what is the meaning of deadlock?

  • @DIYDSP
    @DIYDSP 4 місяці тому +1

    Good stuff, i like it when you give examples, like the big mac, bc it helps a lot. Generally though, these theories have lots of black and white thinking. For example when talking about the protest, yes many people have ni hope of their wishes for peace come true and on some level are happier being miserable. But that's far from universal. It's cynical to think a whole population suffers from that delusion. Many of them/us are sincere in changing leaders' minds.
    And yes some ppl esp rich ones are happier accumulating money but i'll bet they also enjoy spending it.

  • @cameronsmith8775
    @cameronsmith8775 4 місяці тому +2

    This one hit home! At the risk of making enemies here, I will remark that these ideas (with different jargon) have a lot in common with what Jordan Peterson has long been trying to communicate. These insights are older and more common than they may appear. With that said, I have never heard them articulated so clearly, quickly, and completely, so thank you, Julian. Much better than anything Jordan Peterson has to offer these days! But I really think this is what he was aiming at before he fell off. Maybe one day he will come around. I hope he will talk with Zizek again, that would be very intriguing to watch.

  • @ahmedmusa5103
    @ahmedmusa5103 4 місяці тому +1

    What about inaccessibility, when you cannot get what you want? it also makes you depressed

  • @aidanknight1574
    @aidanknight1574 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for this video Julian. I hope you can make an upcoming video on the themes and contradictions Zizek explores in the post-covid unholy alliances you mention at 30:00

  • @NoPrivateProperty
    @NoPrivateProperty 4 місяці тому

    who's philosophical opinions have more relevance, Zizek or Mao? which is the better role model?

  • @Soledad-li8cl
    @Soledad-li8cl 4 місяці тому +5

    Zizek is so brilliant and very funny but i hope not all men are as neurotic as him. If you reach and suffer, if you reach and find a void, then you are condemn to masoquist behavior. You can delay pleasure in order to gain pleasure, but if you delay pleasure forever you are not delaying, you are procrastinating, you are hating yourself, and hating in the way the object of your desire. The real challenge is desiring while you are actually there. Applies to everything. Love is desire. Or is nothing.
    Procrastination in the name of desire is a very cheap solution for the most challenging cuestions, cuestions that we must face together.
    Love your lectures Julian, but I am extremely tired of theoretical bullshit in which some jerks relie so comfortably.
    Thanks for sharing anyways, you are brilliant, and I love your hair. Today was very tidy.
    Greetings from Argentina. ❤

    • @joeyj6808
      @joeyj6808 4 місяці тому +4

      Honestly, I'm rather happier living the unexamined life. Call me a happy idiot. Too much self-reflection hurts my soul. And my soul has been hurt enough, thank you.

    • @postholocene
      @postholocene 3 місяці тому

      you have failed to understand the argument or the practice.

  • @azizm4618
    @azizm4618 4 місяці тому

    that was awesome

  • @chhch6740
    @chhch6740 4 місяці тому +1

    Hi Julian, can you open the CC pls.

  • @stsglnt
    @stsglnt Місяць тому

    I’m wondering if, to truly enjoy a movie, you have to make it part of a process that serves some other goal (like philosophical endeavors). In doing so, aren’t you, in a way, avoiding a true, non-interpretational experience (as Susan Sontag criticized)? Or, in the words of another philosopher, isn’t this more of an ‘I-It’ rather than an ‘I-You’ relationship

  • @joaoboechat7637
    @joaoboechat7637 4 місяці тому

    If enjoyment is always indirect what's the point of finding something one could die for ?

  • @docjaramillo
    @docjaramillo 4 місяці тому

    Thank you. Zizek is so difficult for me to follow.

  • @jirkabrezik4221
    @jirkabrezik4221 4 місяці тому +1

    god bless u

  • @mayormccheese6171
    @mayormccheese6171 4 місяці тому +1

    If you play Dark Souls, you will understand what Zizek means.

  • @455batuhan
    @455batuhan 4 місяці тому +2

    It's just like going on gamemode on Minecraft, all of a sudden you have access to everything, but the surplus enjoyment makes the game dull and empty so you want to quit
    just like life I guess

  • @dinozaccagna8730
    @dinozaccagna8730 4 місяці тому

    Anyone know if he's covered the Mad Max movies?

  • @dlower23
    @dlower23 Місяць тому

    Zizek is like the inverse of the Norm Macdonald joke about Hitler, but unlike Hitler: the more I hear about this guy, the more I like him!

  • @wandersonmartins5597
    @wandersonmartins5597 4 місяці тому

    Nice

  • @satyasyasatyasya5746
    @satyasyasatyasya5746 4 місяці тому +2

    lookin dishy :D

  • @timberrr1126
    @timberrr1126 4 місяці тому +9

    Vitamin D reduces depression.

    • @Teadekun
      @Teadekun 4 місяці тому +6

      Together with Vitamins B6, B12 and C , lack of alcohol/ coffee excess , therapeutic activities and good environment :)

  • @brb3841
    @brb3841 4 місяці тому

    i agreed with everything until 23 minutes in and i can smell you dont believe it

  • @kinghyrule86
    @kinghyrule86 4 місяці тому

    me before I go to sleep

  • @michaelshannon9169
    @michaelshannon9169 3 місяці тому

    We are depressed as we are not as hot, young, smart, funny, capable, charming, successful as we wish we were. Its not that hard, but Zizek has a knack for making the most simplest of issues in fact more complex than they are.

    • @postholocene
      @postholocene 3 місяці тому +1

      please don't put 'we' in front of your abject ignorance.

    • @michaelshannon9169
      @michaelshannon9169 3 місяці тому

      @@postholocene oh you definitely fall under those categories I mentioned

  • @markabrams488
    @markabrams488 4 місяці тому

    Word is perplexity - not perplexion.

  • @DJWESG1
    @DJWESG1 4 місяці тому

    If you all lived my life youd all be clinically depressed.

  • @christopherellis2663
    @christopherellis2663 4 місяці тому

    Well, Protestants and Muslims hold with Predestination, so whatever they do or don't do can only be the Will of God. Great cop out. Yet they both try to make their will God's Will, even when it isn't.

  • @ham.ster1997
    @ham.ster1997 4 місяці тому

    commenting to let you know someone exists dont care about hair

  • @momenakod6399
    @momenakod6399 4 місяці тому +8

    Free palestine.

  • @siafok6960
    @siafok6960 4 місяці тому

    Luckily hair grow.

  • @mattgilbert7347
    @mattgilbert7347 4 місяці тому

    Marx was a kind of conservative communist

  • @dellingrasmegin4274
    @dellingrasmegin4274 7 днів тому

    I actually had to shut this video off because the creator mispronounced the word "conzerrzative" so many times. Look up the word online, it's easy to pronounce no matter what your language background is. Heck, I can even type it out, it's phonetically a word with three parts: 1st, "CON" 2nd, "SERVE" (and this is the part where you have a big problem, it's pronounced the same way as the word "serve") and 3rd, "TIVE" to rhyme with "give". A similar remark applies to how the creator pronounces "philoZoZical". That's comically mispronounced as well but not as frequently as conservative.

  • @merkucjo5904
    @merkucjo5904 4 місяці тому +2

    Zizek confuses effect with cause. Depression is brain fog when you look at everything pleasure or delayed pleasure/pain and you don't find content in it. I can generate pain and connect it with higher cause but brain fog won't go away. When you don't have brain fog you are high, optymistic and find pleasure in pain or pleasure in pleasoure or in imaginary higher cause or whatever but it' s just an effect

    • @he1ar1
      @he1ar1 4 місяці тому +1

      I am pretty sure that depression is not a universal experience but a term for a wide collection of issues which are somewhat similar. Apathy, fear, anger, anxiety and lethargy are all symptoms associated with depression and are completely different to brain fog.

    • @DJWESG1
      @DJWESG1 4 місяці тому

      ​@he1ar1 thats the problem, the word became normalised, and ppl now use it generally to mean low mood. Which doesn't help ppl with actual debilitating depression

  • @randomsht6033
    @randomsht6033 4 місяці тому +4

    I think u r just a masochist buddy

  • @joeyj6808
    @joeyj6808 4 місяці тому +1

    AM I the only Marxist who thinks Freuds work was nonsense?

    • @DIYDSP
      @DIYDSP 4 місяці тому

      Lol far from it. It's a meme to poop on Freud. For a man who wrote over 15 books of original material, many based on research, it's a disgrace that so many dismiss them as "cocaine-fueled ranting." I would suggest those who think he was a charlatan choose a specific area, reference other's criticism of that area, and synthesize some new knowledge around it.

    • @LittleCheka
      @LittleCheka 4 місяці тому +1

      His entire work? The foundation for modern psychology?

    • @joeyj6808
      @joeyj6808 4 місяці тому

      @@LittleCheka There's a whole world of non-Freudian psychology. I think most professions these days would NOT consider themselves Freudians.

    • @joeyj6808
      @joeyj6808 4 місяці тому

      @@DIYDSP I certainly do not dismiss the mans work as if it were nothing. I just think we have gone past it. Science evolves. Even Marx wasn't infallible LOL.

    • @LittleCheka
      @LittleCheka 4 місяці тому

      @@joeyj6808 i think you ought study his influence more

  • @marcel75137
    @marcel75137 4 місяці тому

    Or we can do what Zizek does: mountains and mountains of cocaine 😂

  • @JasonMomoa999
    @JasonMomoa999 4 місяці тому +1

    Wacko. Just find new normal friends with interesting lives.

  • @Soledad-li8cl
    @Soledad-li8cl 4 місяці тому +3

    Zizek is so brilliant and very funny but i hope not all men are as neurotic as him. If you reach and suffer, if you reach and find a void, then you are condemn to masoquist behavior. You can delay pleasure in order to gain pleasure, but if you delay pleasure forever you are not delaying, you are procrastinating, you are hating yourself, and hating in the way the object of your desire. The real challenge is desiring while you are actually there. Applies to everything. Love is desire. Or is nothing.
    Procrastination in the name of desire is a very cheap solution for the most challenging cuestions, cuestions that we must face together.
    Love your lectures Julian, but I am extremely tired of theoretical bullshit in which some jerks relie so comfortably.
    Thanks for sharing anyways, you are brilliant, and I love your hair. Today was very tidy.
    Greetings from Argentina ❤.

    • @ham.ster1997
      @ham.ster1997 4 місяці тому +1

      very insightful bro. well i think here zizek is just stating problems of modern man are facing with the tool of psychoanalysis